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1068: Carbeque

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 49m
September 13th, 2018
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Executive Producers: Sir Bradley, Protectorate of the Outer Cyber Realm, Sir. Julian, Arch Duke Sir Thomas Nussbaum, Daniel DeGroff, Sir Rodger Boots, John Avila, John F

Associate Executive Producers: Sir John Overall, Jason Zeisler, Sir Code Monkey

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    no writer uses the word lodestar Adam
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    curry Nation Media assassination episode
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    1068 this is no agenda from northern
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    Silicon Valley where I don't know what
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    he's talking about I'm John Seymour you
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    know where I am you you you followed me
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    on detainers
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    I don't know actually I do not know
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    where you are and by the way when we're
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    talking to you were actually in
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    Amsterdam no we're sitting here let me
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    know you're in Italy someplace but I was
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    just telling you this the feeling I had
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    okay no Lake Como is near the Clooney
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    ref yes there's the Clooney reference
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    yes near Bellagio is where we are have
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    you read have you ever been to Lake Como
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    no actually I have never been to Lake
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    Como I've always wanted to drive through
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    it's not a place you drive through you
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    might want to look at the map and see
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    exactly where the through the drive
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    through would be it's it's two mountain
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    it's like mountain ranges with a with a
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    glacial lake in the middle there's no
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    driving through you can't get up there
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    in a car yeah you can get up here in a
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    car but you'd have to you can drive
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    through no you'd have to cross the lake
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    somehow and that would they could get
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    the ferry boat and then I guess you get
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    technically you could drive to
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    Switzerland of course but this is more a
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    destination never been here before never
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    even thought about it I gotta say it's
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    one of the most spectacular beautiful
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    places on earth I've ever seen so I
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    heard ah
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    and no wonder George Clooney's got a
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    place here
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    no he's significantly further south but
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    I gotta tell you we did take one of
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    those you know tour boats where it's
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    like six people you know three three
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    couples and and you know it's one of
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    those Riva boats you know the
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    beautiful wooden boats yeah the whole
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    Audrey Hepburn vibe and the tour is it
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    consists entirely of looking at these
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    houses which is great because one of the
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    main houses house you don't own
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    and there's another don't but but and
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    there's another house you don't know but
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    here's the house that you've seen in the
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    movie Casino Royale and in Star Wars the
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    the Empire doesn't know when to come
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    back part three whichever one it was
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    and that is apparently quite a quite a
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    draw here for the Trekkies but not the
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    Trekkies for the Star Wars of freaks
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    mm-hmm yeah no it's it's fantastic it
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    really really has been has been nice
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    staying here it's it's got its own
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    microclimate Johnston it's been just
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    perfect weather and then about an hour
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    before the show started thunder
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    lightning just rain splashing down now
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    it's lifting up him and it's really a
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    great part of the world and I've learned
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    a lot the connections good move there
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    that's my recommendation yeah I'm glad
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    that you know we saw willow first we
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    were in we went directly after the show
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    or the day after the show the last show
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    we went to Florence for willow my
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    sister's 24 25th anniversary and that
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    was in you know up in the up in the
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    hills there and I've learned so much
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    about what's going on in Italy it's okay
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    well that's where we're here for I
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    thought you'd like that yeah the things
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    I've learned first of all the the
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    political climate here is not properly
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    represented in any Me's mainstream media
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    I've been reading or following and
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    probably because it's very complicated
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    as to who exactly is running the show
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    but they s we have the extreme left or
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    at and extreme right and I'll say that
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    with you know air quotes they're both in
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    the coalition so absolutely nothing is
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    getting done and they're fighting all
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    the time and an example of that is
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    marijuana was legally R for a little bit
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    after one of the previous elections and
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    everyone was like yeah great and now
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    it's illegal again that wouldn't be in
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    the case the course of one year take
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    much I went from legal to illegal it's
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    just it's very bizarre and you know
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    willow and her husband they don't really
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    talk about and this is what I what I
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    really thought was interesting I think
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    it's happening all over that's not just
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    happening in the US but you people are
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    afraid to give their opinion in a social
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    setting about you know they're thinking
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    about a certain politician or political
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    party because it's just as toxic here
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    people are going insane over you know
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    the guys on the right and others are
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    going insane over the guys on the left
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    now in this case they're both
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    in the government it you know dis
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    functionally you know making nothing
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    move but it's very interesting that just
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    people just want to shut up and they
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    don't want to talk about it that's
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    exactly like the nama it is and it
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    reminds me of the Netherlands with hair
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    builders and I'm sure the same is you
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    know the same can be said for France
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    with Lipan and whatever else is
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    happening there very very interesting
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    let me see what do I have in my report
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    here I don't know much more on that
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    actually but I did find out where all
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    the windows phones in the world have
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    gone there here in Italy everywhere I
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    turn there's a Windows Phone a Windows
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    Smartphone there's a Windows Phone a Windows
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    ooh that's interesting at the car-rental
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    at the at the check-in here at different
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    that a restaurant we went to and I say
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    what do you do the Windows Phone yeah
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    bottom line is people here are poor they
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    can't afford an iPhone and I think
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    somehow Windows just got their foothold
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    in here and and everyone who has one say
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    yeah I can't get any apps I can't update
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    doesn't do anything more but at least I
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    can I can text and I can do some
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    internet stuff and they don't get the
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    reality that's all you need
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    yeah they don't yes exactly they don't
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    really care and you know no one is
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    laughing at my OTG phone here they all
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    look at yes mark I he knows what's going
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    on so a couple other things just that I
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    wrote down that I wanted to mention a
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    big you know this is the 25th
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    anniversary they so you know they had it
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    they got a little castle and and real
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    party italian-style where there's about
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    150 guests I think ten of them were came
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    in you know from other parts of the
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    world mainly related to my sister willow
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    and the other 130 were all you know
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    distant relatives of of the groom and
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    just as like people who just kind of
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    show up and they really liked a party
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    and they know how to party and they
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    bring great gifts but the number one
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    gift in Italy and I have not seen this
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    in the States yet is the surprise
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    adventure box and it's
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    it's kind of like a gift card and that's
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    how you purchase it but it's a box about
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    the size of a CD I think there may even
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    be a DVD in there but it is an adventure
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    and the adventure is you can go
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    skydiving and there's a hotel day with
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    it or you can choose love and there's
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    five different packages you can choose
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    from it's really a chickenshit gift I
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    think cuz you know instead of actually
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    giving someone someone something you
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    thought about you're letting them make
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    the decision and they just had I think
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    they had 15 of these boxes all different
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    yeah yeah all different agree with you
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    by the way I think it is just two
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    problems with one is that one of those
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    cards or you know I don't like that ever
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    yeah it's like that is they never cash
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    them in and that's where you make your
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    money there's that yeah
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    [Music] there's that yeah
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    which have fun and you're right you
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    should be able to be more thoughtful
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    than that yeah it's like giving you
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    somebody cash ya gift card or something
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    I don't like ya didn't keep shit about
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    you most people don't bitch about when
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    you give him a hundred no neither would
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    I I'd be kind of cool about that let's
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    see at the party and this was again it
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    was this kind of odd old castle with a
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    couple of you know party rooms but
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    mainly most of it was outdoors but they
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    had a pool and the pool was in the back
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    area and now you have to imagine this
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    setting it's you know Tuscany it's the
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    hills it's kind of like the the Mona
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    Lisa backdrop idea and off to the side
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    out of the back poorly lit but the pool
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    was lit there's a nice pool and so that
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    was kind of the smoking area for the
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    people who thought the law was a still
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    in effect that you could smoke the
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    smoking area but it was but we were back
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    there and there's really no lights you
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    know just the the pool light itself and
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    it was mind-boggling because of all
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    these families I'd say they were
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    probably 10 to 15 kids then the majority
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    of them so at least ten of them were
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    ages six to nine and they're just
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    running around and they're running
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    around this pool and there's no tripping
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    over people's legs and the pool is very
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    exposed and I thought it's incredible
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    this would not happen in the United
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    States if this was going people this was
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    like gives a crap one kid falls in the
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    pool everyone's laugh and you have fish
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    a mouth clap take him upstairs put some
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    dry pants on and it was so different
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    from you know from the completely
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    overprotected messed up nature of of
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    what we know in the States it was really
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    apparent that it was different yeah well
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    and I don't know why that is mm-hmm I
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    think it's much better I think I mean I
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    could make some
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    judgements and assertions that probably
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    weren't accurate so I'm not gonna say
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    well last thing for you and of course
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    we're only halfway in our travels you
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    were complaining the other day about
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    how you were using a VPN and you are
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    getting the Mexican version of Google
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    and why you were using Google I don't
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    understand because we are a big family
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    so I'm a little disappointed in general
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    but you were complaining about this
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    because you use a VPN often correct well
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    actually let me explain that no I think
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    I was bit I should have been bitching
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    differently my complaint was Bing Oh
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    Bing okay
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    Bing is the one that when it sees you in
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    some part of the you know oh you're in
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    Mexico okay okay well I'm not in Mexico
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    anymore now I'm gonna let me switch the
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    VP I'm in Canada no I'm still in Mexico
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    right okay let me go to Connecticut no
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    no no you're still in my okay I got you
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    I guess whatever you do once being sees
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    you in Mexico you're in Mexico for I
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    don't know months I guess
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    well now I have the exactly the opposite
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    I'm logged into Twitter I'm logged in so
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    they know hello this is Adam I'm sure
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    there's some cookie somewhere that still
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    says yep this guy's logged in but I get
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    Italian ads where's the logic in that
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    Italian ads on Twitter they know who I
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    am they know that but you know and and
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    so I actually had to use VPN this is the
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    great it makes no sense they they're
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    losing money by not understanding that I
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    am here on vacation
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    this whole thing is bullcrap who we got
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    a I we track you II I really just will
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    giving you specialized that you want it
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    really doesn't it's very disappointing
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    it's like wow so that was all the
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    technology I got except for we wait a
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    minute you got the technology of would
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    you well how you hooked up ah what do
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    you mean how am i hooked up oh yeah the
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    Jigga's willow was very kind before we
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    came over I said hey you know can you
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    pick me up a couple of Jigga's that's
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    what they call him here diddly it's
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    gigas of course but they are we all in
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    on the jiff so they say Jigga's and she
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    said yeah shit if I know but not
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    everyone thinks so
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    and the logic doesn't make sense because
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    Jeff would mean hey I'm with you I'm
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    with you and we're not gonna relitigate
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    that you and we're not gonna relitigate
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    but I'm with you on that um so she got
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    me an official card which is on her name
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    which has 30 Jigga's a month and I've
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    already blown through 12 I think just on
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    the trip in general and show prep and
  • 12:44
    getting ready and I have 80 megabits
  • 12:47
    down and I have about 27 megabits up on
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    this dongle right here are that right at
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    the lake and the Wi-Fi in this Airbnb
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    that we're staying in which is you can
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    here's a little bit boo me it's all made
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    of its an old cave I think just hewn out
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    of rock you know they you get on their
  • 13:08
    Wi-Fi which is the landline based Wi-Fi
  • 13:12
    connected to whatever telecom italia
  • 13:13
    they have up here you're talking about
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    0.9 megabit down point six up it's
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    unbelievable and this is and and this is
  • 13:23
    Tim this is the the Italian mobile
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    company it's fantastic it is you could
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    you can really live here as long as that
  • 13:30
    parts working you can but I now I don't
  • 13:32
    know what how does the dirty but it's
  • 13:34
    sturdy gigas Jigga's jiggets cost it was
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    25 euros those 25 euros and that get
  • 13:44
    would last what a month it's good it's
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    it's that's your cap for the month you
  • 13:50
    have to make that last which of course
  • 13:51
    is not enough but there are some top-up
  • 13:54
    options will Oh two of those cards yeah
  • 13:57
    you could get another card sure you
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    could get as many cards as you want
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    um but I was know for two of those cards
  • 14:05
    fifty you think that would cover you for
  • 14:06
    a month that's $50 a month for pretty
  • 14:08
    high speeds I think it would it would
  • 14:10
    cover the show and show prep and regular
  • 14:12
    living if we wanted to and God knows why
  • 14:14
    but if we want to stream Netflix or
  • 14:15
    anything I think we'd probably run out a
  • 14:17
    lot quicker than that so okay but we
  • 14:19
    haven't watched any television this is a
  • 14:20
    beautiful country these people don't
  • 14:22
    need anything they don't need television
  • 14:23
    they barely need an internet you walk
  • 14:26
    into the water you grab some fish you
  • 14:28
    got tourism fishing for you you got oil
  • 14:33
    you got olive oil you got your olive oil
  • 14:35
    would these people are set this this is
  • 14:38
    this is a old school here they're still
  • 14:40
    living in a different century we're now
  • 14:42
    yeah in a different century we're now
  • 14:43
    no it's I could live here for a while no
  • 14:46
    doubt what don't you I think you should
  • 14:47
    move there all Tina and I keep
  • 14:50
    considering that perhaps you know when
  • 14:53
    because we want to move out of downtown
  • 14:54
    maybe we get something just the Homebase
  • 14:56
    oh really effective I would say
  • 14:59
    cost-effective and then four times a
  • 15:02
    year go away for six weeks and sit in a
  • 15:05
    different part of the world do the show
  • 15:06
    who soak in the culture the head the GSB
  • 15:10
    digital nomads and seeing as seeing as
  • 15:15
    she accepted my my proposal last night
  • 15:19
    uh-oh yes this was on Twitter I didn't
  • 15:21
    follow what it was all about you already
  • 15:23
    proposed that way you're a Fiat I
  • 15:25
    thought this was already done I can't
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    believe you didn't look on the insta
  • 15:30
    look I mean I nailed it John I nailed it
  • 15:33
    I had they had her book the restaurant
  • 15:36
    and then one too so that I can't do
  • 15:40
    anything she doesn't she doesn't she's
  • 15:41
    suspicious like what are you doing what
  • 15:43
    does he know that's he's he's reacting
  • 15:45
    odd why is he walking that way hmm make
  • 15:49
    sure that she called the restaurant she
  • 15:52
    made the reservation then I had my my
  • 15:55
    boys and inholland kick into gear so it
  • 15:58
    came in we had the best table people
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    will give me like the the high sign you
  • 16:02
    know like they knew it was up we sit
  • 16:04
    down after the first course oh this is a
  • 16:07
    famous restaurant mr. all it has it has
  • 16:10
    a Michelin star and this I think is the
  • 16:12
    guy who they claim he invented molecular
  • 16:14
    cooking that's the chef it seems
  • 16:17
    unlikely that's the chef it seems
  • 16:17
    he had the claim he's the one and I was
  • 16:19
    like I don't think John would agree with
  • 16:21
    that but apparently he's the guy who
  • 16:23
    started that so you know dinner is
  • 16:26
    fantastic I have it written down if
  • 16:30
    you'd look up and be strong restaurant
  • 16:32
    in Bellagio I can do it for you what I'm
  • 16:35
    telling you the story so we had already
  • 16:39
    agreed that you know after the the
  • 16:42
    entree or after the appetizer they bring
  • 16:46
    two glasses of champagne and that would
  • 16:47
    kind of be the cue because they were
  • 16:49
    also filming it and they had the
  • 16:52
    orchestra start playing love story so it
  • 16:54
    was like and so there's this fantastic
  • 17:02
    video from behind and that the music
  • 17:05
    starts swelling up and then you can see
  • 17:07
    Tina and I'm gonna get on one knee and
  • 17:09
    the ring box opens is just perfect
  • 17:12
    perfect you already did this went
  • 17:17
    through this already are you gonna just
  • 17:18
    get engaged every mirror yeah why not
  • 17:21
    okay well then that makes sense no we
  • 17:24
    had not gotten engaged we had we were
  • 17:26
    just there was the big deal you got
  • 17:29
    engaged you listened very poorly ah we
  • 17:33
    didn't let me see I'll tell you what
  • 17:34
    this guy's name is here we go team chef
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    Ettore Bhatia
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    does that ring any bells no the pastry
  • 17:44
    chef Manuel Ferrari no no bells room
  • 17:48
    room there were some we're gonna
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    continue let me say congratulations
  • 17:53
    thank you yes that's it oh that's it
  • 17:58
    okay all right good I'm still looking
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    for this guy's than here it is Ettore
  • 18:02
    boxia the chef at the Mistral and
  • 18:04
    Taurasi Astaire baloney restaurant
  • 18:07
    Missy where's the thing about him serves
  • 18:10
    bolonia yes thus the Mistral has been
  • 18:12
    the innovation lab of Italian molecular
  • 18:15
    cuisine which Ettore Bhatia founded in
  • 18:18
    collaboration with David Cassie
  • 18:21
    professor of physics of matter at the
  • 18:23
    Parma university when
  • 18:27
    17:29 no it was great they they it was a
  • 18:33
    fate it was a magical evening and then
  • 18:35
    what are the food right yeah all the
  • 18:37
    food was great and then what are the
  • 18:38
    chances Oh actually we had a white wine
  • 18:41
    that is made in Tuscany by prisoners the
  • 18:43
    guy had a pretty good rap but I got a
  • 18:47
    label for you so I could show that to
  • 18:48
    you I just thought was funny we're
  • 18:50
    drinking prison wine yeah you're
  • 18:53
    drinking prison one you know they make
  • 18:54
    that stuff in toilets right hmm tasty
  • 18:59
    Edna all right fine yeah you have no
  • 19:03
    romance all right fine yeah you have no
  • 19:07
    no you don't get it you don't get
  • 19:08
    romance man it's fun I don't get it you
  • 19:10
    don't get drinking toilet wine and some
  • 19:15
    phony guys says he invented words you're
  • 19:20
    just jealous as usual okay
  • 19:24
    oh yeah anyway she said yes how about
  • 19:27
    that groovy
  • 19:30
    I thought she already said no you're so
  • 19:33
    confused I am confused that's all right
  • 19:36
    don't worry about it but congratulations
  • 19:38
    thank you and you're invited okay where
  • 19:41
    is it gonna be not that you'll come well
  • 19:47
    listen we're gonna have this toilet wine
  • 19:50
    molecular shit we're gonna do it the
  • 19:52
    wedding we can't wait to have you there
  • 19:56
    anyway it's been fantastic we've met
  • 19:59
    some I mean what are the chances on the
  • 20:03
    on the boat ride there's two guys from
  • 20:06
    Dallas the people next to us last night
  • 20:09
    he was from Jersey she was from Chicago
  • 20:11
    I mean it's a little American on it's
  • 20:16
    getting there it's getting pretty close
  • 20:17
    I know not a lot of not a lot of Brits
  • 20:19
    here at this time yes actually have you
  • 20:22
    looked at the British Pound it's almost
  • 20:24
    dead these people yeah they even 128
  • 20:29
    recently they must they can't afford to
  • 20:31
    do anything and you know that's that's
  • 20:32
    what they hate the most when the pound
  • 20:34
    changes like well we can't go on all
  • 20:36
    today yes in fact it's one of the huge
  • 20:40
    issues so yeah yeah I mean what we're
  • 20:45
    gonna you know we're gonna go up to
  • 20:46
    Switzerland Saturday and then after that
  • 20:50
    we'll go to the Netherlands I'll
  • 20:51
    probably have remember the Large Hadron
  • 20:53
    Collider hello for my birthday right
  • 20:55
    right you're gonna get thrown in the
  • 20:56
    Hadron Collider just backup for the
  • 20:58
    picture baby just backup and I have a
  • 21:01
    lot of requests for hoodies from the
  • 21:03
    gift shop I'm not so sure they have a
  • 21:04
    gift shop actually but I'll bet you 10
  • 21:08
    bucks they do and that should be fun and
  • 21:09
    then after that we're gonna go the
  • 21:11
    Netherlands for a little bit and then
  • 21:13
    we'll be back home so it's been a very
  • 21:14
    very nice vacation and again we are
  • 21:18
    really kind of getting into
  • 21:19
    idea well maybe we could do this four
  • 21:21
    times a year you should probably think
  • 21:23
    of doing it six times here I think I
  • 21:25
    would just do the other way around I'd
  • 21:26
    be over there all the time if you can
  • 21:28
    get this connection
  • 21:29
    it's dynam how come you don't do that
  • 21:31
    yeah I don't feel like you know dad with
  • 21:36
    this kind of travel to be tedious that's
  • 21:39
    the point you're gonna get to this point
  • 21:40
    to you know I don't know I already been
  • 21:42
    there once yeah but it's changed I can't
  • 21:46
    change that much how much does you think
  • 21:48
    it's changed all kinds of stuff
  • 21:50
    happening over here that you missed out
  • 21:51
    on yes please well I've been following a
  • 21:53
    lot of it I probably have none of what
  • 21:56
    you've been following yes for sure for
  • 21:59
    sure if you look at your list I'm like
  • 22:01
    yeah I don't know well actually I'm glad
  • 22:03
    you're what any of this is I'm glad you
  • 22:05
    got the well the Google stuff I saw the
  • 22:08
    the Google video the the Google video
  • 22:10
    was disgusting it's really yeah I'm you
  • 22:14
    know the disgusting it's just it was
  • 22:16
    disgusting is it surprising surprising
  • 22:19
    to me rooms
  • 22:20
    it was disgusting and let me really
  • 22:22
    express a few reasons why besides the
  • 22:25
    fact that we had this particular let's
  • 22:26
    go with the Google stuff right now
  • 22:28
    okay let's preface it with the Google
  • 22:30
    somebody I don't know how they got ahold
  • 22:32
    of this but Google does a TGIF thing
  • 22:34
    everywhere what Sergey calls TGIF TGIF
  • 22:39
    All Hands meeting of some sort which is
  • 22:42
    unbelievable that this is not surface
  • 22:44
    before it seems like these types of
  • 22:46
    video are prone to want to go viral
  • 22:49
    don't you think yes but I think they
  • 22:52
    keep a lid on it to get through they got
  • 22:53
    people they can trust I think the
  • 22:54
    obviously in this case somebody made a
  • 22:56
    copy for themselves quit the company
  • 22:57
    released at the Breitbart yeah and I
  • 23:00
    think it's illegal by the way oh really
  • 23:02
    all right I took a clip I took and
  • 23:06
    copied right I took a clip I took and
  • 23:07
    I copied it with using one of the
  • 23:09
    downloader oh yeah I did that too I
  • 23:11
    thought this is dynamite this one this
  • 23:12
    will go away because I don't believe
  • 23:14
    we're gonna see it forever it'll go away
  • 23:15
    a couple of weird things about it is I
  • 23:18
    think for one thing I think it's a
  • 23:20
    copyright violation to put something
  • 23:22
    like this out without permission so I
  • 23:24
    think it's an illegal video but that
  • 23:26
    makes it even more interesting
  • 23:27
    yes and so we have like crazy stuff
  • 23:30
    anyways it was over it was a rant
  • 23:32
    immediately after the election of Trump
  • 23:34
    and all these billionaires from Google
  • 23:37
    are up there on the podium lamenting
  • 23:41
    Trump Trump's election and you have to
  • 23:43
    kind of wonder why but let's play I have
  • 23:46
    I have one two three four five six
  • 23:48
    minutes like small clips
  • 23:50
    hmm one of them's a long clip the rest
  • 23:52
    of them are small and one of the things
  • 23:55
    at the end was this was this guy comes
  • 23:58
    up an Indian guy comes up to ask I think
  • 24:01
    this was the last question first of all
  • 24:03
    I don't know when this happen but Sergey
  • 24:06
    Brin now sounds exactly like Ray Romano
  • 24:09
    he did he does yes now that you
  • 24:14
    mentioned that he does sound a bit
  • 24:15
    [Music] that he does sound a bit
  • 24:22
    honestly he looks like he's a drinker or
  • 24:27
    something is going on that he does not
  • 24:30
    look knows anymore so maybe there's an
  • 24:32
    indicator there oh he sounds like Ray
  • 24:37
    Romano he's very upset by this whole
  • 24:40
    thing and and I want to go right to the
  • 24:43
    end where the prop head comes out the
  • 24:44
    guy comes as an Indian programmer
  • 24:46
    there's a whole little group of him in
  • 24:47
    this audience and they're all wearing
  • 24:49
    beanies with propellers on their heads
  • 24:51
    no wait a minute I didn't see this part
  • 24:55
    of the video right at the end okay all
  • 24:58
    right so he goes up there he's got a
  • 25:00
    beanie with a propeller on his head
  • 25:02
    uh-huh and he and he wraps this thing up
  • 25:06
    this is the prop head guy with Ray
  • 25:08
    Romano is the prop head guy with Ray
  • 25:10
    but is there anything positive you see
  • 25:13
    from this election result boy that's
  • 25:19
    that's a really tough one right now they
  • 25:27
    get a big round of applause for that
  • 25:28
    question that way I decided to throw
  • 25:30
    that in there
  • 25:30
    shorty let's go to the opener and this
  • 25:35
    is Sergei Sergei openers when he comes
  • 25:39
    on stage and he's lamenting this the
  • 25:40
    victory by Trump okay folks I know this
  • 25:44
    is probably not the most joyous TGIF we
  • 25:48
    have had the Frog do yeah
  • 25:51
    and you know face it most people here
  • 25:55
    are pretty upset and pretty sad for me
  • 26:01
    because of the election but there's
  • 26:04
    another group a small group that we
  • 26:07
    should also think about who are very
  • 26:10
    excited about the legalization of pot
  • 26:16
    you know what I had to think when I were
  • 26:18
    just looking at him and Paige on stage
  • 26:21
    Larry Page like these guys he came from
  • 26:25
    a you know from us from Russia from the
  • 26:29
    Soviet Union where the state was you
  • 26:31
    know was very controlling and it seems
  • 26:35
    like somehow there's a name for the
  • 26:38
    syndrome where you become like your
  • 26:40
    oppressor where you become like your
  • 26:42
    it was that Stockholm Syndrome no no I
  • 26:45
    don't think it's Stockholm Syndrome but
  • 26:48
    you identify with your oppressor and you
  • 26:50
    because not the oppressors that
  • 26:52
    Stockholm oh well it's it's so evident
  • 26:55
    it's like wow I'm offended by everything
  • 27:01
    he said because for one thing this guy
  • 27:03
    is the 10th richest person in the world
  • 27:05
    with fifty five billion dollars he's got
  • 27:08
    an eighty million dollar yacht which is
  • 27:13
    a little bigger than then pages 54
  • 27:16
    million dollar yacht hmm and this guy
  • 27:19
    sing in the blues about this situation
  • 27:22
    as though it's like affecting him in any
  • 27:24
    way whatsoever unless here's here's
  • 27:25
    where he's offended disentangled yeah
  • 27:28
    but anyway I know more serious note you
  • 27:32
    know myself
  • 27:34
    as an immigrant and a refugee I
  • 27:38
    certainly find the selection deeply
  • 27:41
    offensive and I know many of you do too
  • 27:44
    yeah what of what I saw and I actually
  • 27:47
    went into about halfway through the the
  • 27:49
    Q&A it was really bizarre to hear this
  • 27:53
    offended and Sanjar was I think his name
  • 27:57
    he's talking about LGBTQ women blacks
  • 28:00
    he's literally the LGBTQ women blacks is
  • 28:03
    you know you're all fucked like what
  • 28:05
    you're talking about
  • 28:08
    yeah really really alternative universe
  • 28:11
    stuff the one that got me kind of the
  • 28:14
    most is the CFO Ruth Porat yes who came
  • 28:20
    on and I want to just play her then she
  • 28:22
    comes out starts crying on the stage
  • 28:24
    because Hilary lost and I want to play
  • 28:27
    this and then I want to point something
  • 28:29
    out after this and this this may have
  • 28:31
    offended me more than anything Sergei
  • 28:33
    said so for what it's worth I've been a
  • 28:35
    very long time Hillary supporter but as
  • 28:38
    Ken said the most important thing is I
  • 28:40
    very much respect the outcome of the
  • 28:42
    democratic process and who any one of us
  • 28:45
    voted for is really not the point
  • 28:47
    because the values that are held dear at
  • 28:51
    this company transcend politics because
  • 28:54
    we're going to constantly fight to
  • 28:56
    preserve them I want to take you back to
  • 29:01
    8:30 p.m. on Tuesday night I was at home
  • 29:04
    with friends and family watching the
  • 29:06
    election returns and as we started to
  • 29:10
    see the direction of the voting I
  • 29:13
    reached out to someone close to me who
  • 29:15
    was at the Javits Center where the big
  • 29:18
    celebration was supposed to occur in New
  • 29:20
    York City somebody we've been working on
  • 29:22
    the campaign and I just sent them a
  • 29:25
    notes that are you know are you okay it
  • 29:27
    looks like it's going the wrong way and
  • 29:30
    I got back a very sad short text that
  • 29:34
    read people are leaving staff is crying
  • 29:37
    we're gonna lose now at the first moment
  • 29:46
    I really felt like we were gonna lose
  • 29:48
    and it was his massive like we kick in
  • 29:51
    the gut that we were gonna lose and it
  • 29:52
    was really painful and the thing that
  • 29:55
    hit me and I talked about it here before
  • 29:57
    was like it Sergey my father was a
  • 30:00
    refugee and we moved to this country and
  • 30:02
    as a child what I was always told is he
  • 30:05
    fought hard worked hard to get my sister
  • 30:09
    and brother and I to this country
  • 30:10
    because he wanted to he wanted us to
  • 30:12
    grow up in a place unlike what he had a
  • 30:14
    place where you could he would never be
  • 30:16
    discriminated against based on who you
  • 30:18
    were the color of your skin you
  • 30:19
    beliefs and that's the thing that kept
  • 30:23
    going through my head
  • 30:24
    on Tuesday okay so sad for give you the
  • 30:29
    background of this woman her refugee
  • 30:32
    status oh dad or maybe maybe there's
  • 30:37
    something that went on before this but
  • 30:39
    she was born to a Jewish family in sail
  • 30:42
    Greater Manchester England the daughter
  • 30:46
    of dr. Dan dr. Dan and Frieda poor at
  • 30:49
    she moved at a young age to came this is
  • 30:52
    her she's a refugee herself she moved to
  • 30:55
    the young age to Cambridge Massachusetts
  • 30:56
    where her father was a research fellow
  • 31:00
    in the physics department at Harvard her
  • 31:02
    father later relocated the family to
  • 31:04
    Palo Alto California where he worked at
  • 31:07
    the SLAC National Accelerator lab for 26
  • 31:10
    years SLAC National Accelerator lab for 26
  • 31:11
    poor her his woman poor her immigrant
  • 31:15
    from England is immigrant from England I
  • 31:19
    will mention a couple of things about
  • 31:22
    her that we should know besides being on
  • 31:24
    the board of trustees to stand for a
  • 31:26
    member of the board of the Stanford
  • 31:27
    management company borrowing a Advisory
  • 31:29
    Committee of the United States Treasury
  • 31:31
    she was almost named as the Treasury
  • 31:33
    secretary she is not on the count just
  • 31:38
    just on the Council of Foreign Relations
  • 31:40
    she is on the board of directors of the
  • 31:44
    Council on Foreign Relations oh really
  • 31:47
    hmm she is a agenda setter elite elite
  • 31:52
    agenda setter poor little immigrant girl
  • 31:59
    elite elite who is she kidding she is
  • 32:03
    incredibly offensive for this spiel and
  • 32:05
    for her crying about the we we like
  • 32:09
    Hillary laws here
  • 32:12
    I find this woman to be extremely
  • 32:14
    offensive find this woman to be extremely
  • 32:18
    that was up on the dais they're all
  • 32:19
    billionaires and they're up on the dais
  • 32:22
    singing the blues
  • 32:23
    I'd like that at one point I think one
  • 32:25
    of the questions was can we up the the
  • 32:28
    Matt or like the tax-free gifts we give
  • 32:30
    to ACLU which apparently they're all
  • 32:33
    maxed out at $6,000 nice two more little
  • 32:40
    clips in this one got me this is the one
  • 32:42
    woman who's a head of ER which they call
  • 32:44
    people she's the sea chief people
  • 32:46
    officer or something corny like that and
  • 32:48
    she comment which which in and I have a
  • 32:52
    but I didn't get any clothes from this
  • 32:54
    one gal came out with all the globalists
  • 32:55
    peel but I got the sense of the whole
  • 32:58
    company's global as if you listen to the
  • 33:00
    Google of the Google woman on brexit
  • 33:02
    much as Googlers earlier this year when
  • 33:05
    I was in London tried to understand the
  • 33:07
    vote of the British people to exit to
  • 33:11
    the European Union and just like with
  • 33:14
    brexit I'm seeing Googlers who are full
  • 33:16
    of fear they're full of fear about the
  • 33:18
    future that full of fear about what the
  • 33:21
    uncertainty means for them and their
  • 33:23
    families and so since I'm in people ops
  • 33:26
    and a lot of the questions are how the
  • 33:30
    Trump presidency might impact things
  • 33:32
    like benefits and visas and jobs so
  • 33:35
    there's a tremendous amount we don't
  • 33:37
    know I would just advise us all to be
  • 33:39
    calm I would just advise us all to be
  • 33:40
    you know there's a G calm place on that
  • 33:42
    you can go to and just take a take a
  • 33:44
    breath well G calm place take a breath a
  • 33:49
    do G calm station
  • 33:52
    there was a lot of this stuff in there
  • 33:56
    is really culty like a lot a lot of
  • 33:59
    people have a lot of people have asked
  • 34:01
    if they can move to Canada and work it
  • 34:03
    good would they want to be googly and
  • 34:04
    can't a lot of this I know you the
  • 34:06
    googliness of you is not so googly
  • 34:08
    moogly right now but the Googlers have
  • 34:10
    to be in the ghuli Canada and will take
  • 34:13
    care of that because your same-sex
  • 34:14
    partners may not be googly with the new
  • 34:16
    Google administration very very odd what
  • 34:21
    happened to the guys who just have a
  • 34:22
    great search engine that their whole
  • 34:25
    thing is like all they want to do is
  • 34:26
    save the world we are
  • 34:28
    to say you over yeah they want to save
  • 34:30
    the world in a globalist fashion this
  • 34:32
    woman who goes on about breakfast brexit
  • 34:34
    you don't understand why the British
  • 34:36
    people voted for brexit I mean yeah not
  • 34:39
    all of them did but a lot of them do you
  • 34:41
    understand even one reason to do that
  • 34:43
    they don't understand any of Nazis Nazis
  • 34:46
    Nazis and the Nazis have mind-control
  • 34:50
    them through the alt-right media which
  • 34:52
    we need to block and last but not least
  • 34:55
    we have this guy is this the privileged
  • 34:59
    guy privileged guy okay no I mean that's
  • 35:03
    a broad issue I mean beyond beyond Trump
  • 35:08
    specifically when he was find very
  • 35:10
    offensive but you know in as much and I
  • 35:14
    know there are a number of Hillary
  • 35:15
    supporters here and a lot of people
  • 35:16
    might you know view her and more broadly
  • 35:18
    the Democratic Party being also very you
  • 35:20
    know polarized and having its own set of
  • 35:23
    issues so I think higher quality
  • 35:27
    governance you know would benefit
  • 35:29
    everyone okay we have two more questions
  • 35:33
    yes okay be superfast yes or sorry I'll
  • 35:36
    take one at each mic sorry sir maybe
  • 35:37
    speaking to white men there's an
  • 35:40
    opportunity for you right now to
  • 35:42
    understand your privilege in the society
  • 35:43
    take the opportunity to go through the
  • 35:45
    bias busting training read about
  • 35:47
    privilege read about the real history of
  • 35:49
    oppression in our country and tomorrow
  • 35:51
    night watch 13th the movie that is here
  • 35:53
    if you can't watch it here watch it on
  • 35:55
    Netflix discuss the issues you are
  • 35:58
    passionate about during Thanksgiving
  • 35:59
    dinner and don't back down and laugh it
  • 36:01
    off when you hear the voice of
  • 36:02
    oppression speak through metaphors and I
  • 36:04
    promise to do this
  • 36:14
    [Applause] to do this
  • 36:17
    what the hell was that all about well he
  • 36:21
    promises to do it he's gonna watch the
  • 36:23
    movie 13th so here we go now we got this
  • 36:27
    guy needs a date I guess the company has
  • 36:29
    something called bias blessings or bias
  • 36:32
    busting busting bias bus bias busting
  • 36:35
    pajas busting so you go take the
  • 36:38
    training this all gets by the way sounds
  • 36:40
    a lot more like Scientology is like self
  • 36:43
    amalia modulation where you whip
  • 36:45
    yourself sweet torch yourself a flyer
  • 36:49
    let's do that yes self flag to flag
  • 36:52
    delish ya flatulation be more like
  • 36:56
    anyway the point is is that these guys
  • 36:58
    are solely there they're like this is
  • 37:01
    like a cult like none other I've ever
  • 37:03
    seen who sits bruh they have a and
  • 37:06
    you're in or you're out
  • 37:08
    just like Scientology in a lot of ways
  • 37:11
    but I can think of a million other cults
  • 37:13
    most of the religious cults just seems
  • 37:15
    more like one of those bias busting it's
  • 37:18
    all code a lot of code words and I and
  • 37:22
    then this guide if you listen to sing
  • 37:23
    over all the guys saying everything that
  • 37:25
    people should do and what he's gonna do
  • 37:27
    and then he says I'm gonna do it this is
  • 37:28
    an affirmation yes so he reads out loud
  • 37:33
    his affirmation and then he says he's
  • 37:36
    gonna do it they all give him a round of
  • 37:37
    applause like you would in a cult
  • 37:39
    because you're all in and by the way it
  • 37:42
    the newer just reminds me of before you
  • 37:43
    go there we know what it reminds me of
  • 37:45
    the death of Stalin
  • 37:48
    ah isn't it exactly like that's there's
  • 37:51
    death of Stalin aspects if you haven't
  • 37:53
    seen the movie you have to see the death
  • 37:55
    of Stalin it's one of the really great
  • 37:57
    movies made in the last few years anyway
  • 38:00
    they had that the beginning of this you
  • 38:06
    know at the beginning at the beginning
  • 38:07
    when when Sergei Kermit the Frog
  • 38:12
    Ray Romano came out he said we gotta
  • 38:15
    talk about this we gotta talk about it
  • 38:17
    we gotta talk about it and him just
  • 38:18
    before he goes to this guy says and make
  • 38:20
    it quick make it quick
  • 38:21
    right tells the guy to get it on this
  • 38:24
    get on and get off we don't have time
  • 38:26
    for you yeah so I thought they only
  • 38:28
    wanted to do is talk they wanted all a
  • 38:30
    CEO the CEO and they they wanted to
  • 38:32
    project water yeah yeah oh yeah that's
  • 38:35
    how are you talking you see they had the
  • 38:37
    blue shirt blue microphone pop screen
  • 38:39
    yellow shirt yellow microphone plop
  • 38:41
    screen did you catch that oh I miss it
  • 38:44
    yellow shirt I noticed it but I didn't
  • 38:46
    think about it being thematic very yeah
  • 38:48
    they had a blue - yellow ball on it with
  • 38:53
    demand had a blue - yellow ball on it with
  • 38:53
    if you and I were you know I had you
  • 38:56
    know of course I would have the eighty
  • 38:58
    million dollar yacht you'd have the
  • 38:59
    fifty more four million dollar yacht
  • 39:01
    even we wouldn't be that maniacal
  • 39:05
    color-coordinated microphones we'd go
  • 39:07
    pretty far I'm sure but I don't think we
  • 39:10
    don't ask for any yeah that's pretty far
  • 39:13
    I think I should have a yellow mic
  • 39:14
    because I'm gonna be wearing a yellow
  • 39:16
    t-shirt I'm gonna be wearing a yellow
  • 39:17
    give me a yellow mic I really like it
  • 39:20
    yellow that way I'll match my t-shirt
  • 39:21
    but I just want to remind everybody that
  • 39:23
    throughout all of this and we'll talk
  • 39:26
    more about the purge and Alex Jones and
  • 39:28
    the thing is none of this matters it
  • 39:31
    will take 10 years but everyone
  • 39:33
    circumvents this stuff they're not
  • 39:35
    important Google is not important if you
  • 39:37
    really believe the internet doesn't
  • 39:38
    exist and you can't survive without
  • 39:41
    Google what are you doing you there's a
  • 39:44
    million different way I mean if sure
  • 39:46
    there's tons of people who base their
  • 39:47
    business baby
  • 39:49
    yes right there's a lot of people who
  • 39:52
    bed just grep away a lot of people who
  • 39:53
    base their business on what Google does
  • 39:56
    or actually I was I've been looking a
  • 39:57
    lot at Instagram
  • 40:00
    they're being of course a Facebook
  • 40:01
    product but what is happening right now
  • 40:03
    with Instagram it is becoming a very
  • 40:05
    sophisticated version of QVC your home
  • 40:08
    shopping I know you look at Instagram
  • 40:10
    from time to time but I don't know I
  • 40:12
    know if you have an account or you just
  • 40:14
    go and look at the web version here's
  • 40:17
    the peers a joke hide on my phone
  • 40:19
    mmm-hmm I think I have an account but
  • 40:21
    I've never accessed and I don't already
  • 40:23
    pass what I don't you know my name okay
  • 40:25
    so I just go on the computer I don't do
  • 40:27
    anything on the phone I'm not a phone
  • 40:29
    guy all right and I go on the computer
  • 40:30
    and I go to Instagram when I find stuff
  • 40:33
    somebody's gets all yeses Hemans
  • 40:34
    together and so I look at somebody's
  • 40:36
    account because anyone can scrounge
  • 40:37
    through their anybody's account they're
  • 40:39
    not locked
  • 40:40
    No everybody look at the photos and you
  • 40:42
    look at the photos this way you oh my
  • 40:44
    god what an idiot by the way first of
  • 40:50
    all it's insta okay we don't say
  • 40:51
    Instagram I know I was about for you for
  • 40:55
    your benefit so insta but now every
  • 40:58
    other person on the insta has some kind
  • 41:01
    of endorsement deal and this goes from
  • 41:05
    Hollywood celebrities you know like
  • 41:07
    there's the soap opera celebrities
  • 41:10
    to Newfound celebrities in fact I was
  • 41:13
    very interesting so reading this article
  • 41:16
    we couldn't find this there's this young
  • 41:18
    girl and she created here her 29 year
  • 41:23
    old like to know it and what she does is
  • 41:27
    she like to know it and what she does is
  • 41:27
    she basically outsources mmm it's like a
  • 41:31
    syndication network for whatever happens
  • 41:35
    to be plugged and there's a lot of these
  • 41:37
    agencies where you can go and you can
  • 41:39
    buy impressions because you know it's
  • 41:41
    it's pretty easy to measure when you
  • 41:43
    have you know does here someone has
  • 41:44
    twenty or thirty thousand followers and
  • 41:47
    they do this thing they wear your boots
  • 41:49
    they way your clothes my daughter makes
  • 41:50
    money doing this but I feel like oh I'll
  • 41:56
    die I will tell you one specific case
  • 41:58
    where she had to wear a pair of boots
  • 41:59
    one post one picture a thousand bucks
  • 42:03
    rages that's outrageous money the boots
  • 42:06
    yes and she got to keep the boots
  • 42:08
    outrageous money
  • 42:10
    and it's not secretive you know she puts
  • 42:13
    there you know sponsored and if it's a
  • 42:15
    part of a campaign is sponsored and she
  • 42:16
    did the whole Levi's thing for Pride
  • 42:18
    Week and that was also based on
  • 42:20
    Instagram but what happens when
  • 42:23
    Instagram at a certain point says or
  • 42:25
    Facebook yeah we need to grow some
  • 42:28
    revenue we need like another four cents
  • 42:31
    per share so we're going to force you to
  • 42:34
    give us a piece of the action
  • 42:37
    and I can't I don't I can't fathom why
  • 42:41
    people don't see this obviously coming
  • 42:43
    down Broadway this happens on every
  • 42:46
    businesses reminds me of the cable
  • 42:48
    industry where they're all you know
  • 42:49
    they're taking oh here yeah you can
  • 42:51
    carry our shows and carry our networks
  • 42:53
    and then all of a sudden the networks
  • 42:54
    are saying you know looks like you're
  • 42:56
    making a lot of money carrying our net
  • 42:58
    we're gonna charge you charge you a
  • 43:00
    little more what we're gonna add a
  • 43:03
    little more to that so you so if you
  • 43:05
    want to carry ESPN you got to pay us
  • 43:07
    yeah it's obvious this is gonna happen I
  • 43:10
    just don't understand what and when you
  • 43:12
    see the D monetization you think oh
  • 43:14
    that's just a bunch of stupid youtubers
  • 43:16
    who gives a crap about them I've got my
  • 43:17
    whole clothing business don't you see
  • 43:20
    it's so obvious and so these people need
  • 43:23
    to immediately move off of these you
  • 43:26
    know platforms and move and move the
  • 43:28
    audience to what I mean if you're really
  • 43:31
    that interesting and I think most aren't
  • 43:33
    people will follow you on your own
  • 43:35
    website will follow you on your own
  • 43:36
    I think youyou kind of summarized the
  • 43:38
    problem of course I did that's fine
  • 43:40
    there's there will be a number of people
  • 43:42
    who like us we don't need Twitter
  • 43:44
    we don't need Facebook I'm not even on
  • 43:47
    Facebook anymore
  • 43:48
    we don't need it we don't need the for
  • 43:50
    distribution we don't need them for for
  • 43:52
    promotion I mean we have so if we got
  • 43:56
    kicked off MailChimp it would suck but
  • 43:57
    I'm sure we could create a we could go
  • 44:00
    to Constant Contact do we have name Ben
  • 44:04
    who word we got dudes named Ben who
  • 44:06
    would be more than happy to set up a
  • 44:08
    majordomo list server for us exists we
  • 44:14
    don't need it no one really needs it but
  • 44:16
    the people yet respond and react like
  • 44:19
    their God and whereas we know the
  • 44:20
    advertiser is gone
  • 44:24
    and that will come back to all these
  • 44:25
    companies well not really because well
  • 44:31
    we've seen this you know the sleeping
  • 44:33
    giants type of operations and people
  • 44:36
    calling out advertisers for being placed
  • 44:39
    on certain platforms or websites and
  • 44:42
    advertisers they may be stupid but they
  • 44:44
    don't want any part of it and they pull
  • 44:45
    immediately dump okay Oh controversy go
  • 44:48
    away I don't need it
  • 44:49
    except for Nike they of course seek it
  • 44:51
    out well Nikes one of the smartest
  • 44:54
    marketing companies we've ever seen
  • 44:58
    yes that old sewage thing is ludicrous
  • 45:01
    do you think that yeah let's make this
  • 45:04
    stupid looking thing we'll call it a
  • 45:05
    swoosh and we'll make it synonymous so
  • 45:08
    when people see it the lot of magnetic
  • 45:09
    Pavlov's dog think Nike all bullcrap
  • 45:12
    that's never gonna wear one of the first
  • 45:14
    they were one of the first for sure I
  • 45:16
    don't know if this if Kaepernick works
  • 45:19
    for them I guess I think I think a
  • 45:22
    monster they could probably get a shoe
  • 45:23
    deal with him to begin with I think he
  • 45:25
    still has it yeah but any what we're
  • 45:29
    talking about this I'm going to push the
  • 45:32
    my favorite clip of the day
  • 45:33
    Oh even though you may or may not reward
  • 45:36
    it and I don't like doing that you know
  • 45:38
    the free right at the beginning or for
  • 45:41
    trying to force it I mean this it's yeah
  • 45:42
    it's pretty brazen to say I I deserve
  • 45:45
    clip of the day but I'm sure you haven't
  • 45:50
    heard this this is a two minute and 13
  • 45:53
    second clip I would wish you wouldn't
  • 45:55
    interrupt okay you got it cuz it is just
  • 45:57
    dynamite and let me just think to give
  • 45:59
    it preface I picked this up off of some
  • 46:02
    this was an audio clip well I don't
  • 46:04
    believe this was ever made into a video
  • 46:06
    I'm not even sure this is an Alex Jones
  • 46:09
    clip I'm not even sure this is Alex
  • 46:12
    Jones but there's no reason to suggest
  • 46:13
    it's not and is him promoting he's
  • 46:17
    bitching about the fact that Twitter
  • 46:19
    kick kicked him off and now he's talking
  • 46:21
    about some of the other places you can
  • 46:22
    find him but he's gone complete this is
  • 46:25
    the classic Alex Jones as we know him
  • 46:29
    it's Alex Jones here doubt heard the new
  • 46:31
    world order has made it smooth but
  • 46:33
    that's not Alex Jones I can tell you
  • 46:34
    right now that is not the Alex Jones
  • 46:37
    that's not Alex Jones it could be it
  • 46:40
    could be Colbert but there's but there
  • 46:44
    is no a couple of moments in here it
  • 46:47
    sounds so much like Alex Jones I find it
  • 46:49
    hard to believe I although when you hear
  • 46:51
    the ISO which I also have and some of
  • 46:54
    the other stuff that's in here yeah this
  • 46:56
    is pretty just ridiculous but it's
  • 46:59
    believable to me this is a major
  • 47:02
    inflection point in the history not only
  • 47:04
    of the United States Constitution but of
  • 47:07
    anglo-saxon comma doll going all the way
  • 47:09
    back to the Magna Carta we
  • 47:11
    seeing a curtailment of human rights
  • 47:14
    here you know I'm as guilty as the next
  • 47:17
    one I got I snap back I'll let this
  • 47:20
    happen first they came for Alex Jones
  • 47:22
    and I said nothing because I was Alex
  • 47:25
    Jones New World Order's scum we have
  • 47:30
    access to a number of platforms that
  • 47:31
    removing some quitter
  • 47:32
    then roost on Facebook they rule we're
  • 47:36
    still on tender we are incredibly
  • 47:40
    undateable but we have totally 200,000
  • 47:42
    followers on tinder
  • 47:43
    we always bump bump we've been locked
  • 48:52
    out of Apple music and spotify I have to
  • 48:53
    do my own later March we're on MySpace
  • 49:06
    [Applause] my own later March we're on MySpace
  • 49:09
    the best part was the troll room for at
  • 49:12
    least half the clip is like it's not him
  • 49:14
    it's not him like now whoever that was
  • 49:22
    and it may have been Colbert cuz he does
  • 49:23
    know Colbert's not that good that was
  • 49:25
    not cold
  • 49:26
    no no sustain damage their voice
  • 49:31
    probably first of all
  • 49:33
    I'll give it to you I'm generous because
  • 49:38
    you congratulated wee with my proposal
  • 49:46
    now whoever did that damaged his voice
  • 49:50
    that is for his or her possibly possibly
  • 49:55
    I'd like to say I like the demon hi so
  • 49:58
    could I play that are you done with this
  • 50:06
    because I do have some Alex Jones see I
  • 50:09
    got a switch yeah this is NPR Twitter
  • 50:19
    has permanently suspended conspiracy
  • 50:21
    theorist Alex Jones and his Infowars
  • 50:24
    channel from its platform Infowars
  • 50:26
    famously promoted the fraudulent idea
  • 50:28
    that the Sandy Hook shooting was faked
  • 50:30
    it took Twitter a month longer to ban
  • 50:33
    Jones than it did Apple Facebook YouTube
  • 50:35
    even Pinterest Pinterest wall barred
  • 50:37
    Jones last month what that guy was doing
  • 50:41
    there banned from Pinterest imposed
  • 50:46
    Technology Policy reporter Tony Rahm is
  • 50:48
    with us now to talk about just hey Tony
  • 50:54
    Alex Jones has said a whole lot of very
  • 50:57
    offensive things over the years traffic
  • 51:01
    and hate speech and conspiracy theories
  • 51:02
    many of these have transpired on Twitter
  • 51:05
    what was it that finally got him banned
  • 51:07
    from this particular platform yeah
  • 51:09
    Twitter said that Jones and Infowars
  • 51:11
    simply crossed the line and when Twitter
  • 51:13
    announced this in a series you gotta
  • 51:15
    listen to this and I remember what the
  • 51:17
    clip is about now cross the line
  • 51:20
    simply remember they have all these
  • 51:22
    rules and terms of service or community
  • 51:25
    community standards now it's just you
  • 51:28
    cross the line buddy
  • 51:30
    recent tweets yesterday it didn't point
  • 51:32
    to a specific thing that Jones and
  • 51:33
    Infowars had done over the better part
  • 51:35
    of the past 24 hours but it wasn't the
  • 51:37
    first time that he had violated the
  • 51:39
    rules and when I spoke with somebody at
  • 51:40
    Twitter they said one thing that weighed
  • 51:42
    very heavily on them was the way that
  • 51:44
    Jones conducted himself outside of a
  • 51:46
    congressional hearing where Twitter CEO
  • 51:48
    Jack Dorsey was testifying about the way
  • 51:50
    that the company moderate scon 10th
  • 51:52
    online Jones essentially went after a
  • 51:54
    Republican Senator Marco Rubio
  • 51:56
    interrupted one of his press conferences
  • 51:57
    he yelled at Dorsey at one point as he
  • 51:59
    was trying to leave the building and
  • 52:01
    then he live-streamed an incident where
  • 52:03
    he was attacking a CNN reporters calling
  • 52:05
    verbal insults on him video was
  • 52:07
    broadcast on periscope which is a live
  • 52:09
    streaming site owned by Twitter and so
  • 52:11
    in the minds of the company it
  • 52:13
    essentially was too much he had gone too
  • 52:15
    far and so they kicked him off the site
  • 52:17
    huh interesting although you mentioned
  • 52:19
    that video was streamed on periscope a
  • 52:20
    lot of this was happening
  • 52:21
    IRL right like in real life not even on
  • 52:24
    the Twitter platform and they're like
  • 52:25
    still this has to stop
  • 52:27
    so yeah in reai RL in real life on the
  • 52:32
    east bump because she's on the insta
  • 52:37
    that's why she says stop and twitter has
  • 52:40
    talked about this in the past that it
  • 52:41
    definitely thinks about content in real
  • 52:44
    life the things you do off the site when
  • 52:46
    it makes decisions about how to handle
  • 52:47
    your content on the site how about that
  • 52:49
    huh content on the site how about that
  • 52:51
    this guy has a womanly voices I talked
  • 52:55
    about this before on the show is one of
  • 52:56
    the example when you first start playing
  • 52:58
    that clip right there again the same guy
  • 53:00
    I thought it was the female okay I told
  • 53:04
    you there's a lot of men's voices are
  • 53:06
    taking a higher register and there's
  • 53:09
    been a number of discussions on TV in
  • 53:11
    fact about women's voices taking a lower
  • 53:14
    register we're pukers we're swapping
  • 53:17
    baby we're swapping that's what's
  • 53:19
    happening we're swapping men are men men
  • 53:22
    are women women a man who the hell knows
  • 53:23
    what's going to be great but listen to
  • 53:26
    what is what they're saying here is that
  • 53:27
    Twitter acknowledges that how you act
  • 53:30
    IRL in real life is just as
  • 53:34
    just as important for them in
  • 53:35
    determining if you're on their platform
  • 53:38
    interesting although you've mentioned
  • 53:40
    that video was streamed on periscope a
  • 53:42
    lot of this was happening
  • 53:43
    IRL right like in real life not he's not
  • 53:45
    the Twitter platform and they're like
  • 53:47
    still this has to stop
  • 53:48
    yeah it has to stop and Twitter has
  • 53:49
    talked about this in the past but it
  • 53:51
    definitely thinks about content in real
  • 53:53
    life the things you do off the site when
  • 53:55
    it makes decisions about how to handle
  • 53:57
    your content on the site because Twitter
  • 53:59
    recognizes that if you're promoting
  • 54:00
    harassment if you're spreading hate
  • 54:02
    speech it's the sort of thing that could
  • 54:04
    affect real users it could have a
  • 54:05
    serious impact on them and their health
  • 54:07
    and their safety and in the past Twitter
  • 54:09
    has yelled at Jones for precisely this
  • 54:11
    behavior the last time that he got in
  • 54:13
    trouble at the end of August Twitter
  • 54:15
    imposed a seven day suspension because
  • 54:17
    Jones took to a video and said that he
  • 54:19
    encouraged his supporters to take up
  • 54:20
    quote battle rifles against journalists
  • 54:23
    and people in the fabrication he takes
  • 54:28
    it much further listen here the last
  • 54:30
    time that he got in trouble at the end
  • 54:32
    of August Twitter imposed a seven day
  • 54:34
    suspension because Jones took to a video
  • 54:36
    and said that he encouraged his
  • 54:37
    supporters to take up quote battle
  • 54:39
    rifles against journalists and people on
  • 54:42
    the left in some of his very critics the
  • 54:43
    fact winner was a threat of violence
  • 54:45
    it's the sort of thing that the company
  • 54:46
    has been under pressure to clamp down on
  • 54:48
    I told you I told you that would become
  • 54:50
    a whole different story and now the lie
  • 54:52
    is set in stone on NPR your public this
  • 54:55
    is supported by people like you your
  • 54:59
    national treasure yes that's just AI
  • 55:02
    that's the part I hate you know that's
  • 55:04
    and I love how he said a Twitter yelled
  • 55:06
    at him where is this guy from Twitter
  • 55:10
    yelled at him it reprimanded might be a
  • 55:12
    word you use in a news report but this
  • 55:14
    is not news in fact this NPR has gone so
  • 55:18
    off the rails but I want to stick with
  • 55:20
    the purge for a moment if we're done
  • 55:22
    with Jones which I think we are you know
  • 55:25
    that it got what's that you got what you
  • 55:28
    are today got what I got your clip of
  • 55:30
    the day baby
  • 55:31
    you probably heard this I think we've
  • 55:33
    talked about this guy rush violet
  • 55:36
    Brothers a day he's he wrote the he's a
  • 55:40
    pickup artist and he writes all these
  • 55:42
    Bart is guy he's probably a misogynistic
  • 55:45
    dick but he I guess he has of these
  • 55:47
    books but he I guess he has of these
  • 55:47
    like bang Stockholm you know bang
  • 55:49
    Belarus and he tells you how to pick up
  • 55:51
    girls in these different cities or
  • 55:53
    countries and he and so he's being
  • 55:57
    purged off of Amazon
  • 55:59
    yeah and create space here's here's a
  • 56:03
    clip of him I've chopped this down just
  • 56:05
    to make it interesting for us it started
  • 56:08
    on Friday now even though game came out
  • 56:10
    on Friday this is him speaking he's
  • 56:12
    doing his own little video podcast a lot
  • 56:14
    of guys were finding it before then and
  • 56:17
    buying it so when it launched on Friday
  • 56:19
    game was already ranked in the top ten
  • 56:21
    ten thousand so was doing very well and
  • 56:24
    I think someone in Amazon noticed that
  • 56:27
    because I got this email on Friday and
  • 56:29
    the email says during our review process
  • 56:33
    we found that the subject matter of your
  • 56:35
    book is in violation of our content
  • 56:37
    guidelines and this was in reference to
  • 56:40
    the best of ruch bang iceland and bang
  • 56:43
    poland best of ruch bang iceland and bang
  • 56:46
    which by the way i think it's a
  • 56:48
    must-read bang poland so much better
  • 56:50
    than bang moscow book on Friday and then
  • 56:54
    Amazon bans three of my other books so I
  • 56:57
    was a little bit uneasy peas once the
  • 56:59
    seal is broken once they start banging
  • 57:02
    one book it's easy to bang a hundred
  • 57:04
    thousand after after that sure enough
  • 57:07
    Sunday I guess they sent me another
  • 57:09
    email and this time this time they ban
  • 57:12
    five books and with the same excuse they
  • 57:15
    bang books and with the same excuse they
  • 57:16
    they banned Bing Estonia bang Lithuania
  • 57:19
    bang Ukraine thirty bangs and pussy and
  • 57:21
    the thing that gets me when you see this
  • 57:23
    guy you think how is this guy banging
  • 57:25
    anything paradise and when they banned
  • 57:32
    the first three books I try to get some
  • 57:34
    answers from them and they just kept
  • 57:36
    vaguely referring to their content
  • 57:38
    guidelines here they say I'm sorry but
  • 57:41
    we can't offer any additional insight or
  • 57:44
    action on this matter what guidelines
  • 57:46
    are they talking about
  • 57:49
    it's pretty vague they don't accept
  • 57:52
    pornography which I don't sell obviously
  • 57:55
    they don't sell offensive content well
  • 57:58
    what is offensive content here's what
  • 58:00
    they say about it what we deem offensive
  • 58:02
    is probably about what you would expect
  • 58:07
    and he's showing the screenshot of that
  • 58:09
    being their actual guidelines which is
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    fair it's just like what why what is
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    their problem what happened well how
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    does this I mean you can figure out what
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    happened someone complained some no now
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    I think someone outside the camera I
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    think in SJW in the company go in the
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    company saw this and she was a you know
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    - around the water cooler who knows what
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    she worked what her position is could be
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    anything and they decided to just ban
  • 58:39
    the guy and they look like away do you
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    think we can do that yeah we just ban
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    him hell with him Ellen male pig
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    it's all this is just baffling to me
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    what are you doing who cares
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    well the social justice warriors care
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    yeah yeah I wound up with a lot of
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    social justice warrior stuff but for
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    some reason oh yes this is actually
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    quite important because we'll probably
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    be hearing about this today being a show
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    day maybe tomorrow being the final day
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    there's a conference going on right now
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    in New York City and actually that's
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    something I would have if I were in New
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    York I would have tried to go to this I
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    don't know if I'd be welcome this is a
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    technology summit
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    it's called lesbians who tech
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    and it's big and here's a little trailer
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    they have this event is like the
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    crystallization of my entire worldview
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    all in one place not as big flashy words
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    like it's happening New York the top of
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    their game here so many different topics
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    and such an expert speakers they're
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    coming as an attendee you're gonna meet
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    incredible people you're gonna be
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    inspired by perspectives they didn't
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    have you know making the noise and
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    pushing and never taking the note to
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    change and never taking the note to
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    [Music] and never taking the note to
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    so you need to come here focus on the
  • 1:00:20
    thing you love and to be around people
  • 1:00:22
    that have so much in common with you
  • 1:00:23
    we're women surround you in such a like
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    supportive incredible way and I think
  • 1:00:27
    that's the magic and why people keep
  • 1:00:29
    coming back conference would be complete
  • 1:00:37
    without a fireside chat with Hillary
  • 1:00:40
    Clinton which we're desperately waiting
  • 1:00:42
    for I don't know if it happens tonight
  • 1:00:44
    or if it happens tomorrow night but this
  • 1:00:47
    is a very interesting conference mainly
  • 1:00:49
    because it seems like a great conference
  • 1:00:51
    if you look at their if you look at the
  • 1:00:56
    you know the sessions that they have
  • 1:00:59
    this is a real very interesting
  • 1:01:01
    technology conference certainly for New
  • 1:01:02
    York but everyone a little bit exclusive
  • 1:01:09
    sounds it's very exclusionary and I'm
  • 1:01:13
    looking at the website right now which
  • 1:01:15
    is lesbians who tech org and tech is it
  • 1:01:21
    I mean is it Tec Tec a tech whatwhat do
  • 1:01:26
    you how do you Tec yeah I know well they
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    Tec I don't know lesbians if I said hey
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    Adam go Tech yeah what would that mean
  • 1:01:34
    to you well then you're doing tech stuff
  • 1:01:36
    but what does that mean you just using
  • 1:01:39
    your phone you're making a phone calls
  • 1:01:40
    that is that cuz that is unfortunately
  • 1:01:43
    not that is unfortunately not in the fa
  • 1:01:45
    Q's but I'm sure that I'm sure that
  • 1:01:50
    Leanne Pittsford the founder and CEO be
  • 1:01:52
    very happy to to tell you if you called
  • 1:01:55
    her for an interview
  • 1:01:56
    maybe it's code for something else but
  • 1:01:58
    on the but on the website question
  • 1:02:01
    number one do I have to be a lesbian to
  • 1:02:03
    attend this was what I was interested in
  • 1:02:05
    lesbians who tech is committed to
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    convening queer women and technology and
  • 1:02:10
    our allies in the vibrant and inclusive
  • 1:02:12
    community we work together to promote
  • 1:02:15
    the visibility and inclusion of women
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    LGBTQ people and the people from other
  • 1:02:20
    backgrounds underrepresented in
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    technology if you work to move the
  • 1:02:24
    mission forward we want you on our team
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    nobody has to be a lesbian to be in the
  • 1:02:30
    community has to be a lesbian to be in the
  • 1:02:31
    we used the term to honor those who
  • 1:02:33
    crossed a firewall with it
  • 1:02:37
    not quite sure what they're saying but I
  • 1:02:38
    have all the pictures I've seen there's
  • 1:02:40
    no straight white dudes to be found so I
  • 1:02:43
    don't I don't feel so welcome how do we
  • 1:02:46
    show LGBTQ and allied pride
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    well we create a culture of vibrant
  • 1:02:52
    inclusion except for a straight white
  • 1:02:54
    guys when we make spaces for ourselves
  • 1:02:56
    and others to be influential if we have
  • 1:02:59
    a larger share of privilege we show
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    allied pride by making space to support
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    others we show pride when we hire people
  • 1:03:06
    finance projects create opportunities
  • 1:03:09
    and share resources we show pride when
  • 1:03:12
    we work to move our community forward
  • 1:03:13
    together work to move our community forward
  • 1:03:15
    also don't understand much of what that
  • 1:03:17
    meant but it seems like a very very
  • 1:03:20
    exclude exclusionary Club and it's it's
  • 1:03:25
    sad really that it comes to this because
  • 1:03:29
    it looks like a good conference
  • 1:03:30
    seriously they got a lot of good tracks
  • 1:03:33
    of light we have you ever learn anything
  • 1:03:35
    at one of these conferences something
  • 1:03:41
    last decade know what we'll hear Pam let
  • 1:03:45
    me see what they have oh this is
  • 1:03:47
    interesting see what they have oh this is
  • 1:03:48
    about lesbians who tech plus allies ok
  • 1:03:51
    February 2014 they were made official
  • 1:03:53
    then they had 40,000 members 42 plus
  • 1:03:57
    chapters worldwide they dubbed the LWT
  • 1:04:00
    sqad leadership program
  • 1:04:03
    oh that's lesbians who tech squad ok
  • 1:04:06
    then they got the Edie Windsor coding
  • 1:04:09
    collar ship program then they have White
  • 1:04:12
    House LGBTQ tech lesbians who tech on an
  • 1:04:16
    airplane nice I think you're ice cold
  • 1:04:20
    code and bring a lesbian to work day
  • 1:04:23
    nice no you got to see this website but
  • 1:04:29
    if you look at the tracks they got
  • 1:04:30
    blockchain cryptocurrency cybersecurity
  • 1:04:32
    AI machine learning the future of work
  • 1:04:35
    preparing your organization for
  • 1:04:37
    automation the cyber threat land remote
  • 1:04:41
    ly interesting now you never go to
  • 1:04:43
    anything but anyway the Hillary Clinton
  • 1:04:45
    fireside chat will be interesting and we
  • 1:04:47
    hope to hear that very soon
  • 1:04:50
    gee I wonder what she's gonna talk about
  • 1:04:53
    herself about what happened of course
  • 1:04:57
    yeah what happened was another event
  • 1:05:02
    where Bob Woodward was in New York a
  • 1:05:03
    couple days ago at to something
  • 1:05:05
    something why and he was gonna be
  • 1:05:08
    interviewed by this character that was I
  • 1:05:09
    don't have his name handy but they
  • 1:05:11
    actually broke some news here and I
  • 1:05:14
    thought that this would be the this is
  • 1:05:16
    the good I didn't even listen to the
  • 1:05:17
    would write and pay any attention to
  • 1:05:19
    anything but this one short clip go
  • 1:05:21
    podcasting we also have a special
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    announcement about our moderator tonight
  • 1:05:27
    just today he announced that he is
  • 1:05:29
    leaving the slate group to launch a
  • 1:05:31
    podcast company with Malcolm Gladwell
  • 1:05:34
    and who was it like a horrible
  • 1:05:39
    announcement can't be here he's
  • 1:05:43
    launching a podcasting company oh you
  • 1:05:53
    know he's just a suit and tie guy you
  • 1:05:55
    know looks like a classic you know
  • 1:05:58
    worker journalist worker CIA guy and
  • 1:06:04
    he's launching a podcasting company with
  • 1:06:05
    Malcolm Gladwell who's already doing
  • 1:06:08
    podcasting of sorts okay explain Malcolm
  • 1:06:11
    Gladwell Malcolm Gladwell is the tipping
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    point guy hmm he's a writer that has his
  • 1:06:19
    huge afro uh and he writes nothing but
  • 1:06:23
    bestsellers short bestsellers I like the
  • 1:06:26
    tipping point and a bunch of other books
  • 1:06:27
    and they're all of them make a lot of
  • 1:06:29
    money and he talks like this he's very
  • 1:06:31
    good for NPR oh yeah because he will
  • 1:06:33
    keep you in thrall yes because there's
  • 1:06:36
    not really ill has that's just I don't I
  • 1:06:39
    know it's fantastic and you know when we
  • 1:06:42
    do that I should put you left and I'll
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    be right that's that's the total MPR way
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    think I could do it I'll go over here
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    okay I could do it I'll go over here
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    okay where you John all right talk to me
  • 1:06:54
    anyway yes okay you got a page news I
  • 1:06:59
    don't get it
  • 1:07:01
    can't believe it I can't believe you
  • 1:07:04
    wouldn't do your NPR voice while I was
  • 1:07:06
    doing left and right doesn't matter with
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    that I'd like to thank you for your
  • 1:07:08
    courage and say in the morning to you
  • 1:07:10
    John see who the C stands for center of
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    the speaker's Dvorak I was noticing I
  • 1:07:17
    was missing something great in the
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    morning all the boots in the ground
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    feeding the air subs in the water all
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    the Dames tonight's out there yes in the
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    morning to the troll room no agenda
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    stream calm thank you for being here
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    helping me with my early morning
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    crackles if you don't know what that
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    means check into No Agenda stream comm
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    every Thursday and Sunday morning as we
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    bring you the show live and I'd also
  • 1:07:41
    like to say in the morning to comic
  • 1:07:44
    strip blogger and Scott Adams who
  • 1:07:47
    combined brought us the artwork in a
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    remixed version for episode 10 67 this
  • 1:07:53
    was the doubleheader where you John John
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    see did it brought us two interviews one
  • 1:08:01
    with the Scott Adams famous cartoonist
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    futurist a hypnotist and a trump
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    apologist they also Dane Jasper's is a
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    Jasper's they also Dane Jasper's is a
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    Dane Jesper the Dane Jesper from sonic
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    net which I actually had to set a few
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    people straight on the tweeters it's
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    like oh nice native add Dvorak people
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    thinking oh nice native add Dvorak people
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    yeah I don't know they just say you
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    don't like us did we get a check from
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    Dane I wish did you ask him
  • 1:08:45
    maybe I'd like both nervous comes up in
  • 1:08:51
    the conversation quite a bit there are
  • 1:08:52
    products that we like people that we
  • 1:08:55
    like and we if we like it would just do
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    it would yeah maybe it is a puff piece
  • 1:08:59
    but it's not that you know we're doing
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    it for money we're not hold on whoa whoa
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    whoa whoa whoa whoa greatest thing I've
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    ever said light on this foam mattress
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    did you get accused of it being a puff
  • 1:09:13
    piece what no but I got accused of being
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    native ad I personally thought it was a
  • 1:09:19
    puff piece all right but it was
  • 1:09:24
    interesting the only reason it was the
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    puff piece because I didn't know
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    anything did this call it's because I
  • 1:09:30
    said let me get an interview and why I'm
  • 1:09:31
    doing this because you needed an
  • 1:09:32
    interview for this is missing show and I
  • 1:09:35
    I just wanted to know how the technology
  • 1:09:38
    works because then what is call and all
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    the details about with the candidate
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    because I started looking into and
  • 1:09:42
    there's like all kinds of different ways
  • 1:09:44
    that this is done so you could have just
  • 1:09:46
    called the helpdesk but you want instead
  • 1:09:47
    you did an interview that's what you're
  • 1:09:49
    saying yeah from the guy who's doing it
  • 1:09:53
    so I had so I found out what kind of
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    gear is using I tried to figure out
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    whether I could read I'm looking to see
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    okay I see what that okay can I replace
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    that with something better I'm always
  • 1:10:03
    thinking to myself and apparently not at
  • 1:10:07
    this point I thought I thought it was
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    interesting to listen to I enjoyed it
  • 1:10:10
    very much and I and I really liked the
  • 1:10:11
    the Scott Adams interview and I like
  • 1:10:15
    that format where it's very
  • 1:10:16
    conversational it sounds like you're in
  • 1:10:18
    a room with somebody it's not all room I
  • 1:10:21
    know it's not at all the style of the
  • 1:10:24
    show typically but I luckily default no
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    but I'd like I'd like that so it was
  • 1:10:29
    very enjoyable to me
  • 1:10:30
    thank you for abusing my my disability
  • 1:10:34
    for a cheap laugh in your show oh yes we
  • 1:10:39
    did mention cuz I thought Scott had
  • 1:10:40
    Tourette's oh you didn't know that he
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    does he does now he does now and now
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    he's gonna be concerned about it but the
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    story about you know him not being able
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    to speak and and you know the Kutta
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    the nerves in his neck and then he had
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    the couldn't for three and a half years
  • 1:11:00
    oh holy crap and you wouldn't know it
  • 1:11:02
    when when you listen to the guy today
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    and at some point yeah and and really
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    his whole stories the entire story makes
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    up for some of the pompous ass he can be
  • 1:11:12
    at point yeah is it was like I'm a great
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    hypnotist I'm uh MB I'm great and
  • 1:11:17
    they're like yeah you are actually shit
  • 1:11:20
    it's kind of great and and he's it it's
  • 1:11:25
    issued I'm humble they should add that
  • 1:11:27
    to his roster I'm humble but it was very
  • 1:11:31
    interesting and I learned a lot about
  • 1:11:34
    him and I things I never knew and the
  • 1:11:38
    fact that he was the one that showed you
  • 1:11:39
    the world wide web was interesting the
  • 1:11:42
    more you know type fact yeah yes this is
  • 1:11:45
    alone in 93 it's when I first ran into
  • 1:11:48
    him I saw a few times sense but then I
  • 1:11:50
    guess I haven't seen him for a decade or
  • 1:11:52
    long enough that I missed this whole
  • 1:11:54
    can't speak thing and I wanted to get
  • 1:11:57
    the story and I was actually stunned by
  • 1:11:59
    this oh I didn't realize it was three
  • 1:12:01
    and a half years of not being able to
  • 1:12:02
    talk but being able to talk fine
  • 1:12:05
    everybody but you know and so the kind
  • 1:12:10
    of guy he is is then you know this comic
  • 1:12:13
    strip blogger comes up with a you know a
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    cool version of Dilbert with 40 percent
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    which is how much business he says he's
  • 1:12:19
    lost because of his analysis of Trump
  • 1:12:22
    and know and yeah we were like ah that's
  • 1:12:25
    great this is perfect now let's ask him
  • 1:12:27
    anything yes yeah most cartoonists
  • 1:12:29
    I think that kind of anal about that
  • 1:12:31
    stuff aren't they but what about money
  • 1:12:34
    they make no know about someone using
  • 1:12:37
    their art and changing it and using it
  • 1:12:38
    for different purpose I know you did but
  • 1:12:41
    I thought that was nice that he said yes
  • 1:12:42
    so that shows he's a good guy yeah many
  • 1:12:45
    of the artists are very yeah they're
  • 1:12:47
    freaky about it and I know for a fact
  • 1:12:48
    when in the early days of the Internet
  • 1:12:50
    in the probably the late night he Scott
  • 1:12:53
    was actually uh
  • 1:12:55
    tracking down anyone who is posting
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    repost it's not sure and then
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    threatening him but if shaking his fist
  • 1:13:02
    I don't know what else you could do and
  • 1:13:03
    I didn't know anything about his food
  • 1:13:05
    business and how he had screwed that up
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    I was it was very soon
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    more to me where I had this I had lots
  • 1:13:10
    of money and I had a helicopter
  • 1:13:12
    fractional ownership company and 9/11
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    happens like that was the beginning of a
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    long slide no one was using private
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    aviation for a while after 9/11 and
  • 1:13:24
    that's when he his restaurants you know
  • 1:13:26
    the order hit the restaurant he had in
  • 1:13:28
    some crazy place with a horrible lease
  • 1:13:30
    and he just you know tanked on that a
  • 1:13:32
    lot of stuff you don't know about the
  • 1:13:34
    guy yeah I did yeah I had I had worked
  • 1:13:39
    on I spent a cup probably I had a file
  • 1:13:42
    open and every once well a question
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    would come to mind I put it in there hey
  • 1:13:46
    how much how many other interesting
  • 1:13:48
    friends can we interview before they are
  • 1:13:49
    dead or we are I get quite a few I just
  • 1:13:53
    have to do it yeah we'll give me one
  • 1:13:55
    name that would be interesting
  • 1:13:57
    it was a good name that would be in well
  • 1:13:59
    I know who would be interesting to me
  • 1:14:01
    uh-huh know who would be interesting to me
  • 1:14:01
    I want to do him yes so dismiss guy this
  • 1:14:05
    guy Draper yes
  • 1:14:07
    this guy Draper's 90 something he runs
  • 1:14:09
    her wine he's one of the original wine
  • 1:14:11
    importers in California and he knows
  • 1:14:14
    everything about the wine industry today
  • 1:14:17
    and he finally opened up a small shop
  • 1:14:21
    cuz you know I'm thinking with all these
  • 1:14:22
    interviews now I have a couple people I
  • 1:14:24
    can call you know we've got a product
  • 1:14:29
    maybe not sorry once again we're gonna
  • 1:14:34
    get out of this thing rich if it give it
  • 1:14:36
    kills us
  • 1:14:37
    but let's thank people who supported the
  • 1:14:39
    show and this is for two episodes things
  • 1:14:42
    we had your special doubleheader and of
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    course we're doing the show we're back
  • 1:14:47
    on schedule once again the show here
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    from Italy the next show on Sunday will
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    be from Switzerland and then the show on
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    Thursday after that will be from the
  • 1:14:56
    Netherlands so we're definitely putting
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    in the effort to continue of the best
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    podcast in the universe so yes this is
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    for two episodes so there'd be a little
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    longer than usual especially the second
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    reading the first reading starts over
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    sir Bradley the Protectorate of the
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    outer cyber realm Gaius who came in with
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    $1,000 cyber realm Gaius who came in with
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    we're home so he will so he's a baron
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    now he must be a baron there must be
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    more than that you go through that he
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    didn't he didn't request that he can't
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    order wait Vai count he something
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    doesn't say anything he's just another
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    dude named Ben here thank you for the
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    salvation and entertainment shout out to
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    mark client of Barron County for hitting
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    me in the mouth a while back please
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    throw a little job karma my way and keep
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    kicking ass tiles sir Bradley
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    Protectorate of the without her Seibel
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    slavery already thought he was a knight
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    already let me check let me see if
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    there's something that I'm missing on
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    the maybe I'm missing something on the
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    spreadsheet here let me check we do have
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    I know we have a knight English a cliche
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    we have no
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    well this has to be clarified so he's
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