September 13th, 2018 • 2h 49m
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1068 this is no agenda from
northern
Silicon Valley where I don't
know what
he's talking about I'm John
Seymour you
know where I am you you you
followed me
on detainers
I don't know actually I do not
know
where you are and by the way
when we're
talking to you were actually in
Amsterdam no we're sitting here
let me
know you're in Italy someplace
but I was
just telling you this the
feeling I had
okay no Lake Como is near the
Clooney
ref yes there's the Clooney
reference
yes near Bellagio is where we
are have
you read have you ever been to
Lake Como
no actually I have never been
to Lake
Como I've always wanted to
drive through
it's not a place you drive
through you
might want to look at the map
and see
exactly where the through the
drive
through would be it's it's two
mountain
it's like mountain ranges with
a with a
glacial lake in the middle
there's no
driving through you can't get
up there
in a car yeah you can get up
here in a
car but you'd have to you can
drive
through no you'd have to cross
the lake
somehow and that would they
could get
the ferry boat and then I guess
you get
technically you could drive to
Switzerland of course but this
is more a
destination never been here
before never
even thought about it I gotta
say it's
one of the most spectacular
beautiful
places on earth I've ever seen
so I
heard ah
and no wonder George Clooney's
got a
place here
no he's significantly further
south but
I gotta tell you we did take
one of
those you know tour boats where
it's
like six people you know three
three
couples and and you know it's
one of
those Riva boats you know the
beautiful wooden boats yeah the
whole
Audrey Hepburn vibe and the
tour is it
consists entirely of looking at
these
houses which is great because
one of the
main houses house you don't own
and there's another don't but
but and
there's another house you don't
know but
here's the house that you've
seen in the
movie Casino Royale and in Star
Wars the
the Empire doesn't know when to
come
back part three whichever one
it was
and that is apparently quite a
quite a
draw here for the Trekkies but
not the
Trekkies for the Star Wars of
freaks
mm-hmm yeah no it's it's
fantastic it
really really has been has been
nice
staying here it's it's got its
own
microclimate Johnston it's been
just
perfect weather and then about
an hour
before the show started thunder
lightning just rain splashing
down now
it's lifting up him and it's
really a
great part of the world and
I've learned
a lot the connections good move
there
that's my recommendation yeah
I'm glad
that you know we saw willow
first we
were in we went directly after
the show
or the day after the show the
last show
we went to Florence for willow
my
sister's 24 25th anniversary
and that
was in you know up in the up in
the
hills there and I've learned so
much
about what's going on in Italy
it's okay
well that's where we're here
for I
thought you'd like that yeah
the things
I've learned first of all the
the
political climate here is not
properly
represented in any Me's
mainstream media
I've been reading or following
and
probably because it's very
complicated
as to who exactly is running
the show
but they s we have the extreme
left or
at and extreme right and I'll
say that
with you know air quotes
they're both in
the coalition so absolutely
nothing is
getting done and they're
fighting all
the time and an example of that
is
marijuana was legally R for a
little bit
after one of the previous
elections and
everyone was like yeah great
and now
it's illegal again that
wouldn't be in
the case the course of one year
take
much I went from legal to
illegal it's
just it's very bizarre and you
know
willow and her husband they
don't really
talk about and this is what I
what I
really thought was interesting
I think
it's happening all over that's
not just
happening in the US but you
people are
afraid to give their opinion in
a social
setting about you know they're
thinking
about a certain politician or
political
party because it's just as
toxic here
people are going insane over
you know
the guys on the right and
others are
going insane over the guys on
the left
now in this case they're both
in the government it you know
dis
functionally you know making
nothing
move but it's very interesting
that just
people just want to shut up and
they
don't want to talk about it
that's
exactly like the nama it is and
it
reminds me of the Netherlands
with hair
builders and I'm sure the same
is you
know the same can be said for
France
with Lipan and whatever else is
happening there very very
interesting
let me see what do I have in my
report
here I don't know much more on
that
actually but I did find out
where all
the windows phones in the world
have
gone there here in Italy
everywhere I
turn there's a Windows Phone a
Windows
Smartphone there's a Windows
Phone a Windows
ooh that's interesting at the
car-rental
at the at the check-in here at
different
that a restaurant we went to
and I say
what do you do the Windows
Phone yeah
bottom line is people here are
poor they
can't afford an iPhone and I
think
somehow Windows just got their
foothold
in here and and everyone who
has one say
yeah I can't get any apps I
can't update
doesn't do anything more but at
least I
can I can text and I can do some
internet stuff and they don't
get the
reality that's all you need
yeah they don't yes exactly
they don't
really care and you know no one
is
laughing at my OTG phone here
they all
look at yes mark I he knows
what's going
on so a couple other things
just that I
wrote down that I wanted to
mention a
big you know this is the 25th
anniversary they so you know
they had it
they got a little castle and
and real
party italian-style where
there's about
150 guests I think ten of them
were came
in you know from other parts of
the
world mainly related to my
sister willow
and the other 130 were all you
know
distant relatives of of the
groom and
just as like people who just
kind of
show up and they really liked a
party
and they know how to party and
they
bring great gifts but the
number one
gift in Italy and I have not
seen this
in the States yet is the
surprise
adventure box and it's
it's kind of like a gift card
and that's
how you purchase it but it's a
box about
the size of a CD I think there
may even
be a DVD in there but it is an
adventure
and the adventure is you can go
skydiving and there's a hotel
day with
it or you can choose love and
there's
five different packages you can
choose
from it's really a chickenshit
gift I
think cuz you know instead of
actually
giving someone someone
something you
thought about you're letting
them make
the decision and they just had
I think
they had 15 of these boxes all
different
yeah yeah all different agree
with you
by the way I think it is just
two
problems with one is that one
of those
cards or you know I don't like
that ever
yeah it's like that is they
never cash
them in and that's where you
make your
money there's that yeah
[Music] there's that yeah
which have fun and you're right
you
should be able to be more
thoughtful
than that yeah it's like giving
you
somebody cash ya gift card or
something
I don't like ya didn't keep
shit about
you most people don't bitch
about when
you give him a hundred no
neither would
I I'd be kind of cool about
that let's
see at the party and this was
again it
was this kind of odd old castle
with a
couple of you know party rooms
but
mainly most of it was outdoors
but they
had a pool and the pool was in
the back
area and now you have to
imagine this
setting it's you know Tuscany
it's the
hills it's kind of like the the
Mona
Lisa backdrop idea and off to
the side
out of the back poorly lit but
the pool
was lit there's a nice pool and
so that
was kind of the smoking area
for the
people who thought the law was
a still
in effect that you could smoke
the
smoking area but it was but we
were back
there and there's really no
lights you
know just the the pool light
itself and
it was mind-boggling because of
all
these families I'd say they were
probably 10 to 15 kids then the
majority
of them so at least ten of them
were
ages six to nine and they're
just
running around and they're
running
around this pool and there's no
tripping
over people's legs and the pool
is very
exposed and I thought it's
incredible
this would not happen in the
United
States if this was going people
this was
like gives a crap one kid falls
in the
pool everyone's laugh and you
have fish
a mouth clap take him upstairs
put some
dry pants on and it was so
different
from you know from the
completely
overprotected messed up nature
of of
what we know in the States it
was really
apparent that it was different
yeah well
and I don't know why that is
mm-hmm I
think it's much better I think
I mean I
could make some
judgements and assertions that
probably
weren't accurate so I'm not
gonna say
well last thing for you and of
course
we're only halfway in our
travels you
were complaining the other day
about
how you were using a VPN and
you are
getting the Mexican version of
Google
and why you were using Google I
don't
understand because we are a big
family
so I'm a little disappointed in
general
but you were complaining about
this
because you use a VPN often
correct well
actually let me explain that no
I think
I was bit I should have been
bitching
differently my complaint was
Bing Oh
Bing okay
Bing is the one that when it
sees you in
some part of the you know oh
you're in
Mexico okay okay well I'm not
in Mexico
anymore now I'm gonna let me
switch the
VP I'm in Canada no I'm still
in Mexico
right okay let me go to
Connecticut no
no no you're still in my okay I
got you
I guess whatever you do once
being sees
you in Mexico you're in Mexico
for I
don't know months I guess
well now I have the exactly the
opposite
I'm logged into Twitter I'm
logged in so
they know hello this is Adam
I'm sure
there's some cookie somewhere
that still
says yep this guy's logged in
but I get
Italian ads where's the logic
in that
Italian ads on Twitter they
know who I
am they know that but you know
and and
so I actually had to use VPN
this is the
great it makes no sense they
they're
losing money by not
understanding that I
am here on vacation
this whole thing is bullcrap
who we got
a I we track you II I really
just will
giving you specialized that you
want it
really doesn't it's very
disappointing
it's like wow so that was all
the
technology I got except for we
wait a
minute you got the technology
of would
you well how you hooked up ah
what do
you mean how am i hooked up oh
yeah the
Jigga's willow was very kind
before we
came over I said hey you know
can you
pick me up a couple of Jigga's
that's
what they call him here diddly
it's
gigas of course but they are we
all in
on the jiff so they say Jigga's
and she
said yeah shit if I know but not
everyone thinks so
and the logic doesn't make
sense because
Jeff would mean hey I'm with
you I'm
with you and we're not gonna
relitigate
that you and we're not gonna
relitigate
but I'm with you on that um so
she got
me an official card which is on
her name
which has 30 Jigga's a month
and I've
already blown through 12 I
think just on
the trip in general and show
prep and
getting ready and I have 80
megabits
down and I have about 27
megabits up on
this dongle right here are that
right at
the lake and the Wi-Fi in this
Airbnb
that we're staying in which is
you can
here's a little bit boo me it's
all made
of its an old cave I think just
hewn out
of rock you know they you get
on their
Wi-Fi which is the landline
based Wi-Fi
connected to whatever telecom
italia
they have up here you're
talking about
0.9 megabit down point six up
it's
unbelievable and this is and
and this is
Tim this is the the Italian
mobile
company it's fantastic it is
you could
you can really live here as
long as that
parts working you can but I now
I don't
know what how does the dirty
but it's
sturdy gigas Jigga's jiggets
cost it was
25 euros those 25 euros and
that get
would last what a month it's
good it's
it's that's your cap for the
month you
have to make that last which of
course
is not enough but there are
some top-up
options will Oh two of those
cards yeah
you could get another card sure
you
could get as many cards as you
want
um but I was know for two of
those cards
fifty you think that would
cover you for
a month that's $50 a month for
pretty
high speeds I think it would it
would
cover the show and show prep
and regular
living if we wanted to and God
knows why
but if we want to stream
Netflix or
anything I think we'd probably
run out a
lot quicker than that so okay
but we
haven't watched any television
this is a
beautiful country these people
don't
need anything they don't need
television
they barely need an internet
you walk
into the water you grab some
fish you
got tourism fishing for you you
got oil
you got olive oil you got your
olive oil
would these people are set this
this is
this is a old school here
they're still
living in a different century
we're now
yeah in a different century
we're now
no it's I could live here for a
while no
doubt what don't you I think
you should
move there all Tina and I keep
considering that perhaps you
know when
because we want to move out of
downtown
maybe we get something just the
Homebase
oh really effective I would say
cost-effective and then four
times a
year go away for six weeks and
sit in a
different part of the world do
the show
who soak in the culture the
head the GSB
digital nomads and seeing as
seeing as
she accepted my my proposal
last night
uh-oh yes this was on Twitter I
didn't
follow what it was all about
you already
proposed that way you're a Fiat
I
thought this was already done I
can't
believe you didn't look on the
insta
look I mean I nailed it John I
nailed it
I had they had her book the
restaurant
and then one too so that I
can't do
anything she doesn't she
doesn't she's
suspicious like what are you
doing what
does he know that's he's he's
reacting
odd why is he walking that way
hmm make
sure that she called the
restaurant she
made the reservation then I had
my my
boys and inholland kick into
gear so it
came in we had the best table
people
will give me like the the high
sign you
know like they knew it was up
we sit
down after the first course oh
this is a
famous restaurant mr. all it
has it has
a Michelin star and this I
think is the
guy who they claim he invented
molecular
cooking that's the chef it seems
unlikely that's the chef it
seems
he had the claim he's the one
and I was
like I don't think John would
agree with
that but apparently he's the
guy who
started that so you know dinner
is
fantastic I have it written
down if
you'd look up and be strong
restaurant
in Bellagio I can do it for you
what I'm
telling you the story so we had
already
agreed that you know after the
the
entree or after the appetizer
they bring
two glasses of champagne and
that would
kind of be the cue because they
were
also filming it and they had the
orchestra start playing love
story so it
was like and so there's this
fantastic
video from behind and that the
music
starts swelling up and then you
can see
Tina and I'm gonna get on one
knee and
the ring box opens is just
perfect
perfect you already did this
went
through this already are you
gonna just
get engaged every mirror yeah
why not
okay well then that makes sense
no we
had not gotten engaged we had
we were
just there was the big deal you
got
engaged you listened very
poorly ah we
didn't let me see I'll tell you
what
this guy's name is here we go
team chef
Ettore Bhatia
does that ring any bells no the
pastry
chef Manuel Ferrari no no bells
room
room there were some we're gonna
continue let me say
congratulations
thank you yes that's it oh
that's it
okay all right good I'm still
looking
for this guy's than here it is
Ettore
boxia the chef at the Mistral
and
Taurasi Astaire baloney
restaurant
Missy where's the thing about
him serves
bolonia yes thus the Mistral
has been
the innovation lab of Italian
molecular
cuisine which Ettore Bhatia
founded in
collaboration with David Cassie
professor of physics of matter
at the
Parma university when
17:29 no it was great they they
it was a
fate it was a magical evening
and then
what are the food right yeah
all the
food was great and then what
are the
chances Oh actually we had a
white wine
that is made in Tuscany by
prisoners the
guy had a pretty good rap but I
got a
label for you so I could show
that to
you I just thought was funny
we're
drinking prison wine yeah you're
drinking prison one you know
they make
that stuff in toilets right hmm
tasty
Edna all right fine yeah you
have no
romance all right fine yeah you
have no
no you don't get it you don't
get
romance man it's fun I don't
get it you
don't get drinking toilet wine
and some
phony guys says he invented
words you're
just jealous as usual okay
oh yeah anyway she said yes how
about
that groovy
I thought she already said no
you're so
confused I am confused that's
all right
don't worry about it but
congratulations
thank you and you're invited
okay where
is it gonna be not that you'll
come well
listen we're gonna have this
toilet wine
molecular shit we're gonna do
it the
wedding we can't wait to have
you there
anyway it's been fantastic
we've met
some I mean what are the
chances on the
on the boat ride there's two
guys from
Dallas the people next to us
last night
he was from Jersey she was from
Chicago
I mean it's a little American
on it's
getting there it's getting
pretty close
I know not a lot of not a lot
of Brits
here at this time yes actually
have you
looked at the British Pound
it's almost
dead these people yeah they
even 128
recently they must they can't
afford to
do anything and you know that's
that's
what they hate the most when
the pound
changes like well we can't go
on all
today yes in fact it's one of
the huge
issues so yeah yeah I mean what
we're
gonna you know we're gonna go
up to
Switzerland Saturday and then
after that
we'll go to the Netherlands I'll
probably have remember the
Large Hadron
Collider hello for my birthday
right
right you're gonna get thrown
in the
Hadron Collider just backup for
the
picture baby just backup and I
have a
lot of requests for hoodies
from the
gift shop I'm not so sure they
have a
gift shop actually but I'll bet
you 10
bucks they do and that should
be fun and
then after that we're gonna go
the
Netherlands for a little bit
and then
we'll be back home so it's been
a very
very nice vacation and again we
are
really kind of getting into
idea well maybe we could do
this four
times a year you should
probably think
of doing it six times here I
think I
would just do the other way
around I'd
be over there all the time if
you can
get this connection
it's dynam how come you don't
do that
yeah I don't feel like you know
dad with
this kind of travel to be
tedious that's
the point you're gonna get to
this point
to you know I don't know I
already been
there once yeah but it's
changed I can't
change that much how much does
you think
it's changed all kinds of stuff
happening over here that you
missed out
on yes please well I've been
following a
lot of it I probably have none
of what
you've been following yes for
sure for
sure if you look at your list
I'm like
yeah I don't know well actually
I'm glad
you're what any of this is I'm
glad you
got the well the Google stuff I
saw the
the Google video the the Google
video
was disgusting it's really yeah
I'm you
know the disgusting it's just
it was
disgusting is it surprising
surprising
to me rooms
it was disgusting and let me
really
express a few reasons why
besides the
fact that we had this
particular let's
go with the Google stuff right
now
okay let's preface it with the
Google
somebody I don't know how they
got ahold
of this but Google does a TGIF
thing
everywhere what Sergey calls
TGIF TGIF
All Hands meeting of some sort
which is
unbelievable that this is not
surface
before it seems like these
types of
video are prone to want to go
viral
don't you think yes but I think
they
keep a lid on it to get through
they got
people they can trust I think
the
obviously in this case somebody
made a
copy for themselves quit the
company
released at the Breitbart yeah
and I
think it's illegal by the way
oh really
all right I took a clip I took
and
copied right I took a clip I
took and
I copied it with using one of
the
downloader oh yeah I did that
too I
thought this is dynamite this
one this
will go away because I don't
believe
we're gonna see it forever
it'll go away
a couple of weird things about
it is I
think for one thing I think
it's a
copyright violation to put
something
like this out without
permission so I
think it's an illegal video but
that
makes it even more interesting
yes and so we have like crazy
stuff
anyways it was over it was a
rant
immediately after the election
of Trump
and all these billionaires from
Google
are up there on the podium
lamenting
Trump Trump's election and you
have to
kind of wonder why but let's
play I have
I have one two three four five
six
minutes like small clips
hmm one of them's a long clip
the rest
of them are small and one of
the things
at the end was this was this
guy comes
up an Indian guy comes up to
ask I think
this was the last question
first of all
I don't know when this happen
but Sergey
Brin now sounds exactly like
Ray Romano
he did he does yes now that you
mentioned that he does sound a
bit
[Music] that he does sound a bit
honestly he looks like he's a
drinker or
something is going on that he
does not
look knows anymore so maybe
there's an
indicator there oh he sounds
like Ray
Romano he's very upset by this
whole
thing and and I want to go
right to the
end where the prop head comes
out the
guy comes as an Indian
programmer
there's a whole little group of
him in
this audience and they're all
wearing
beanies with propellers on
their heads
no wait a minute I didn't see
this part
of the video right at the end
okay all
right so he goes up there he's
got a
beanie with a propeller on his
head
uh-huh and he and he wraps this
thing up
this is the prop head guy with
Ray
Romano is the prop head guy
with Ray
but is there anything positive
you see
from this election result boy
that's
that's a really tough one right
now they
get a big round of applause for
that
question that way I decided to
throw
that in there
shorty let's go to the opener
and this
is Sergei Sergei openers when
he comes
on stage and he's lamenting
this the
victory by Trump okay folks I
know this
is probably not the most joyous
TGIF we
have had the Frog do yeah
and you know face it most
people here
are pretty upset and pretty sad
for me
because of the election but
there's
another group a small group
that we
should also think about who are
very
excited about the legalization
of pot
you know what I had to think
when I were
just looking at him and Paige
on stage
Larry Page like these guys he
came from
a you know from us from Russia
from the
Soviet Union where the state
was you
know was very controlling and
it seems
like somehow there's a name for
the
syndrome where you become like
your
oppressor where you become like
your
it was that Stockholm Syndrome
no no I
don't think it's Stockholm
Syndrome but
you identify with your
oppressor and you
because not the oppressors that
Stockholm oh well it's it's so
evident
it's like wow I'm offended by
everything
he said because for one thing
this guy
is the 10th richest person in
the world
with fifty five billion dollars
he's got
an eighty million dollar yacht
which is
a little bigger than then pages
54
million dollar yacht hmm and
this guy
sing in the blues about this
situation
as though it's like affecting
him in any
way whatsoever unless here's
here's
where he's offended
disentangled yeah
but anyway I know more serious
note you
know myself
as an immigrant and a refugee I
certainly find the selection
deeply
offensive and I know many of
you do too
yeah what of what I saw and I
actually
went into about halfway through
the the
Q&A it was really bizarre to
hear this
offended and Sanjar was I think
his name
he's talking about LGBTQ women
blacks
he's literally the LGBTQ women
blacks is
you know you're all fucked like
what
you're talking about
yeah really really alternative
universe
stuff the one that got me kind
of the
most is the CFO Ruth Porat yes
who came
on and I want to just play her
then she
comes out starts crying on the
stage
because Hilary lost and I want
to play
this and then I want to point
something
out after this and this this
may have
offended me more than anything
Sergei
said so for what it's worth
I've been a
very long time Hillary
supporter but as
Ken said the most important
thing is I
very much respect the outcome
of the
democratic process and who any
one of us
voted for is really not the
point
because the values that are
held dear at
this company transcend politics
because
we're going to constantly fight
to
preserve them I want to take
you back to
8:30 p.m. on Tuesday night I
was at home
with friends and family
watching the
election returns and as we
started to
see the direction of the voting
I
reached out to someone close to
me who
was at the Javits Center where
the big
celebration was supposed to
occur in New
York City somebody we've been
working on
the campaign and I just sent
them a
notes that are you know are you
okay it
looks like it's going the wrong
way and
I got back a very sad short
text that
read people are leaving staff
is crying
we're gonna lose now at the
first moment
I really felt like we were
gonna lose
and it was his massive like we
kick in
the gut that we were gonna lose
and it
was really painful and the
thing that
hit me and I talked about it
here before
was like it Sergey my father
was a
refugee and we moved to this
country and
as a child what I was always
told is he
fought hard worked hard to get
my sister
and brother and I to this
country
because he wanted to he wanted
us to
grow up in a place unlike what
he had a
place where you could he would
never be
discriminated against based on
who you
were the color of your skin you
beliefs and that's the thing
that kept
going through my head
on Tuesday okay so sad for give
you the
background of this woman her
refugee
status oh dad or maybe maybe
there's
something that went on before
this but
she was born to a Jewish family
in sail
Greater Manchester England the
daughter
of dr. Dan dr. Dan and Frieda
poor at
she moved at a young age to
came this is
her she's a refugee herself she
moved to
the young age to Cambridge
Massachusetts
where her father was a research
fellow
in the physics department at
Harvard her
father later relocated the
family to
Palo Alto California where he
worked at
the SLAC National Accelerator
lab for 26
years SLAC National Accelerator
lab for 26
poor her his woman poor her
immigrant
from England is immigrant from
England I
will mention a couple of things
about
her that we should know besides
being on
the board of trustees to stand
for a
member of the board of the
Stanford
management company borrowing a
Advisory
Committee of the United States
Treasury
she was almost named as the
Treasury
secretary she is not on the
count just
just on the Council of Foreign
Relations
she is on the board of
directors of the
Council on Foreign Relations oh
really
hmm she is a agenda setter
elite elite
agenda setter poor little
immigrant girl
elite elite who is she kidding
she is
incredibly offensive for this
spiel and
for her crying about the we we
like
Hillary laws here
I find this woman to be
extremely
offensive find this woman to be
extremely
that was up on the dais they're
all
billionaires and they're up on
the dais
singing the blues
I'd like that at one point I
think one
of the questions was can we up
the the
Matt or like the tax-free gifts
we give
to ACLU which apparently
they're all
maxed out at $6,000 nice two
more little
clips in this one got me this
is the one
woman who's a head of ER which
they call
people she's the sea chief
people
officer or something corny like
that and
she comment which which in and
I have a
but I didn't get any clothes
from this
one gal came out with all the
globalists
peel but I got the sense of the
whole
company's global as if you
listen to the
Google of the Google woman on
brexit
much as Googlers earlier this
year when
I was in London tried to
understand the
vote of the British people to
exit to
the European Union and just
like with
brexit I'm seeing Googlers who
are full
of fear they're full of fear
about the
future that full of fear about
what the
uncertainty means for them and
their
families and so since I'm in
people ops
and a lot of the questions are
how the
Trump presidency might impact
things
like benefits and visas and
jobs so
there's a tremendous amount we
don't
know I would just advise us all
to be
calm I would just advise us all
to be
you know there's a G calm place
on that
you can go to and just take a
take a
breath well G calm place take a
breath a
do G calm station
there was a lot of this stuff
in there
is really culty like a lot a
lot of
people have a lot of people
have asked
if they can move to Canada and
work it
good would they want to be
googly and
can't a lot of this I know you
the
googliness of you is not so
googly
moogly right now but the
Googlers have
to be in the ghuli Canada and
will take
care of that because your
same-sex
partners may not be googly with
the new
Google administration very very
odd what
happened to the guys who just
have a
great search engine that their
whole
thing is like all they want to
do is
save the world we are
to say you over yeah they want
to save
the world in a globalist
fashion this
woman who goes on about
breakfast brexit
you don't understand why the
British
people voted for brexit I mean
yeah not
all of them did but a lot of
them do you
understand even one reason to
do that
they don't understand any of
Nazis Nazis
Nazis and the Nazis have
mind-control
them through the alt-right
media which
we need to block and last but
not least
we have this guy is this the
privileged
guy privileged guy okay no I
mean that's
a broad issue I mean beyond
beyond Trump
specifically when he was find
very
offensive but you know in as
much and I
know there are a number of
Hillary
supporters here and a lot of
people
might you know view her and
more broadly
the Democratic Party being also
very you
know polarized and having its
own set of
issues so I think higher quality
governance you know would
benefit
everyone okay we have two more
questions
yes okay be superfast yes or
sorry I'll
take one at each mic sorry sir
maybe
speaking to white men there's an
opportunity for you right now to
understand your privilege in
the society
take the opportunity to go
through the
bias busting training read about
privilege read about the real
history of
oppression in our country and
tomorrow
night watch 13th the movie that
is here
if you can't watch it here
watch it on
Netflix discuss the issues you
are
passionate about during
Thanksgiving
dinner and don't back down and
laugh it
off when you hear the voice of
oppression speak through
metaphors and I
promise to do this
[Applause] to do this
what the hell was that all
about well he
promises to do it he's gonna
watch the
movie 13th so here we go now we
got this
guy needs a date I guess the
company has
something called bias blessings
or bias
busting busting bias bus bias
busting
pajas busting so you go take the
training this all gets by the
way sounds
a lot more like Scientology is
like self
amalia modulation where you whip
yourself sweet torch yourself a
flyer
let's do that yes self flag to
flag
delish ya flatulation be more
like
anyway the point is is that
these guys
are solely there they're like
this is
like a cult like none other
I've ever
seen who sits bruh they have a
and
you're in or you're out
just like Scientology in a lot
of ways
but I can think of a million
other cults
most of the religious cults
just seems
more like one of those bias
busting it's
all code a lot of code words
and I and
then this guide if you listen
to sing
over all the guys saying
everything that
people should do and what he's
gonna do
and then he says I'm gonna do
it this is
an affirmation yes so he reads
out loud
his affirmation and then he
says he's
gonna do it they all give him a
round of
applause like you would in a
cult
because you're all in and by
the way it
the newer just reminds me of
before you
go there we know what it
reminds me of
the death of Stalin
ah isn't it exactly like that's
there's
death of Stalin aspects if you
haven't
seen the movie you have to see
the death
of Stalin it's one of the
really great
movies made in the last few
years anyway
they had that the beginning of
this you
know at the beginning at the
beginning
when when Sergei Kermit the Frog
Ray Romano came out he said we
gotta
talk about this we gotta talk
about it
we gotta talk about it and him
just
before he goes to this guy says
and make
it quick make it quick
right tells the guy to get it
on this
get on and get off we don't
have time
for you yeah so I thought they
only
wanted to do is talk they
wanted all a
CEO the CEO and they they
wanted to
project water yeah yeah oh yeah
that's
how are you talking you see
they had the
blue shirt blue microphone pop
screen
yellow shirt yellow microphone
plop
screen did you catch that oh I
miss it
yellow shirt I noticed it but I
didn't
think about it being thematic
very yeah
they had a blue - yellow ball
on it with
demand had a blue - yellow ball
on it with
if you and I were you know I
had you
know of course I would have the
eighty
million dollar yacht you'd have
the
fifty more four million dollar
yacht
even we wouldn't be that
maniacal
color-coordinated microphones
we'd go
pretty far I'm sure but I don't
think we
don't ask for any yeah that's
pretty far
I think I should have a yellow
mic
because I'm gonna be wearing a
yellow
t-shirt I'm gonna be wearing a
yellow
give me a yellow mic I really
like it
yellow that way I'll match my
t-shirt
but I just want to remind
everybody that
throughout all of this and
we'll talk
more about the purge and Alex
Jones and
the thing is none of this
matters it
will take 10 years but everyone
circumvents this stuff they're
not
important Google is not
important if you
really believe the internet
doesn't
exist and you can't survive
without
Google what are you doing you
there's a
million different way I mean if
sure
there's tons of people who base
their
business baby
yes right there's a lot of
people who
bed just grep away a lot of
people who
base their business on what
Google does
or actually I was I've been
looking a
lot at Instagram
they're being of course a
Facebook
product but what is happening
right now
with Instagram it is becoming a
very
sophisticated version of QVC
your home
shopping I know you look at
Instagram
from time to time but I don't
know I
know if you have an account or
you just
go and look at the web version
here's
the peers a joke hide on my
phone
mmm-hmm I think I have an
account but
I've never accessed and I don't
already
pass what I don't you know my
name okay
so I just go on the computer I
don't do
anything on the phone I'm not a
phone
guy all right and I go on the
computer
and I go to Instagram when I
find stuff
somebody's gets all yeses Hemans
together and so I look at
somebody's
account because anyone can
scrounge
through their anybody's account
they're
not locked
No everybody look at the photos
and you
look at the photos this way you
oh my
god what an idiot by the way
first of
all it's insta okay we don't say
Instagram I know I was about
for you for
your benefit so insta but now
every
other person on the insta has
some kind
of endorsement deal and this
goes from
Hollywood celebrities you know
like
there's the soap opera
celebrities
to Newfound celebrities in fact
I was
very interesting so reading
this article
we couldn't find this there's
this young
girl and she created here her
29 year
old like to know it and what
she does is
she like to know it and what
she does is
she basically outsources mmm
it's like a
syndication network for
whatever happens
to be plugged and there's a lot
of these
agencies where you can go and
you can
buy impressions because you
know it's
it's pretty easy to measure
when you
have you know does here someone
has
twenty or thirty thousand
followers and
they do this thing they wear
your boots
they way your clothes my
daughter makes
money doing this but I feel
like oh I'll
die I will tell you one
specific case
where she had to wear a pair of
boots
one post one picture a thousand
bucks
rages that's outrageous money
the boots
yes and she got to keep the
boots
outrageous money
and it's not secretive you know
she puts
there you know sponsored and if
it's a
part of a campaign is sponsored
and she
did the whole Levi's thing for
Pride
Week and that was also based on
Instagram but what happens when
Instagram at a certain point
says or
Facebook yeah we need to grow
some
revenue we need like another
four cents
per share so we're going to
force you to
give us a piece of the action
and I can't I don't I can't
fathom why
people don't see this obviously
coming
down Broadway this happens on
every
businesses reminds me of the
cable
industry where they're all you
know
they're taking oh here yeah you
can
carry our shows and carry our
networks
and then all of a sudden the
networks
are saying you know looks like
you're
making a lot of money carrying
our net
we're gonna charge you charge
you a
little more what we're gonna
add a
little more to that so you so
if you
want to carry ESPN you got to
pay us
yeah it's obvious this is gonna
happen I
just don't understand what and
when you
see the D monetization you
think oh
that's just a bunch of stupid
youtubers
who gives a crap about them
I've got my
whole clothing business don't
you see
it's so obvious and so these
people need
to immediately move off of
these you
know platforms and move and
move the
audience to what I mean if
you're really
that interesting and I think
most aren't
people will follow you on your
own
website will follow you on your
own
I think youyou kind of
summarized the
problem of course I did that's
fine
there's there will be a number
of people
who like us we don't need
Twitter
we don't need Facebook I'm not
even on
Facebook anymore
we don't need it we don't need
the for
distribution we don't need them
for for
promotion I mean we have so if
we got
kicked off MailChimp it would
suck but
I'm sure we could create a we
could go
to Constant Contact do we have
name Ben
who word we got dudes named Ben
who
would be more than happy to set
up a
majordomo list server for us
exists we
don't need it no one really
needs it but
the people yet respond and
react like
their God and whereas we know
the
advertiser is gone
and that will come back to all
these
companies well not really
because well
we've seen this you know the
sleeping
giants type of operations and
people
calling out advertisers for
being placed
on certain platforms or
websites and
advertisers they may be stupid
but they
don't want any part of it and
they pull
immediately dump okay Oh
controversy go
away I don't need it
except for Nike they of course
seek it
out well Nikes one of the
smartest
marketing companies we've ever
seen
yes that old sewage thing is
ludicrous
do you think that yeah let's
make this
stupid looking thing we'll call
it a
swoosh and we'll make it
synonymous so
when people see it the lot of
magnetic
Pavlov's dog think Nike all
bullcrap
that's never gonna wear one of
the first
they were one of the first for
sure I
don't know if this if
Kaepernick works
for them I guess I think I
think a
monster they could probably get
a shoe
deal with him to begin with I
think he
still has it yeah but any what
we're
talking about this I'm going to
push the
my favorite clip of the day
Oh even though you may or may
not reward
it and I don't like doing that
you know
the free right at the beginning
or for
trying to force it I mean this
it's yeah
it's pretty brazen to say I I
deserve
clip of the day but I'm sure
you haven't
heard this this is a two minute
and 13
second clip I would wish you
wouldn't
interrupt okay you got it cuz
it is just
dynamite and let me just think
to give
it preface I picked this up off
of some
this was an audio clip well I
don't
believe this was ever made into
a video
I'm not even sure this is an
Alex Jones
clip I'm not even sure this is
Alex
Jones but there's no reason to
suggest
it's not and is him promoting
he's
bitching about the fact that
Twitter
kick kicked him off and now
he's talking
about some of the other places
you can
find him but he's gone complete
this is
the classic Alex Jones as we
know him
it's Alex Jones here doubt
heard the new
world order has made it smooth
but
that's not Alex Jones I can
tell you
right now that is not the Alex
Jones
that's not Alex Jones it could
be it
could be Colbert but there's
but there
is no a couple of moments in
here it
sounds so much like Alex Jones
I find it
hard to believe I although when
you hear
the ISO which I also have and
some of
the other stuff that's in here
yeah this
is pretty just ridiculous but
it's
believable to me this is a major
inflection point in the history
not only
of the United States
Constitution but of
anglo-saxon comma doll going
all the way
back to the Magna Carta we
seeing a curtailment of human
rights
here you know I'm as guilty as
the next
one I got I snap back I'll let
this
happen first they came for Alex
Jones
and I said nothing because I
was Alex
Jones New World Order's scum we
have
access to a number of platforms
that
removing some quitter
then roost on Facebook they
rule we're
still on tender we are
incredibly
undateable but we have totally
200,000
followers on tinder
we always bump bump we've been
locked
out of Apple music and spotify
I have to
do my own later March we're on
MySpace
[Applause] my own later March
we're on MySpace
the best part was the troll
room for at
least half the clip is like
it's not him
it's not him like now whoever
that was
and it may have been Colbert
cuz he does
know Colbert's not that good
that was
not cold
no no sustain damage their voice
probably first of all
I'll give it to you I'm
generous because
you congratulated wee with my
proposal
now whoever did that damaged
his voice
that is for his or her possibly
possibly
I'd like to say I like the
demon hi so
could I play that are you done
with this
because I do have some Alex
Jones see I
got a switch yeah this is NPR
Twitter
has permanently suspended
conspiracy
theorist Alex Jones and his
Infowars
channel from its platform
Infowars
famously promoted the
fraudulent idea
that the Sandy Hook shooting
was faked
it took Twitter a month longer
to ban
Jones than it did Apple
Facebook YouTube
even Pinterest Pinterest wall
barred
Jones last month what that guy
was doing
there banned from Pinterest
imposed
Technology Policy reporter Tony
Rahm is
with us now to talk about just
hey Tony
Alex Jones has said a whole lot
of very
offensive things over the years
traffic
and hate speech and conspiracy
theories
many of these have transpired
on Twitter
what was it that finally got
him banned
from this particular platform
yeah
Twitter said that Jones and
Infowars
simply crossed the line and
when Twitter
announced this in a series you
gotta
listen to this and I remember
what the
clip is about now cross the line
simply remember they have all
these
rules and terms of service or
community
community standards now it's
just you
cross the line buddy
recent tweets yesterday it
didn't point
to a specific thing that Jones
and
Infowars had done over the
better part
of the past 24 hours but it
wasn't the
first time that he had violated
the
rules and when I spoke with
somebody at
Twitter they said one thing
that weighed
very heavily on them was the
way that
Jones conducted himself outside
of a
congressional hearing where
Twitter CEO
Jack Dorsey was testifying
about the way
that the company moderate scon
10th
online Jones essentially went
after a
Republican Senator Marco Rubio
interrupted one of his press
conferences
he yelled at Dorsey at one
point as he
was trying to leave the
building and
then he live-streamed an
incident where
he was attacking a CNN
reporters calling
verbal insults on him video was
broadcast on periscope which is
a live
streaming site owned by Twitter
and so
in the minds of the company it
essentially was too much he had
gone too
far and so they kicked him off
the site
huh interesting although you
mentioned
that video was streamed on
periscope a
lot of this was happening
IRL right like in real life not
even on
the Twitter platform and
they're like
still this has to stop
so yeah in reai RL in real life
on the
east bump because she's on the
insta
that's why she says stop and
twitter has
talked about this in the past
that it
definitely thinks about content
in real
life the things you do off the
site when
it makes decisions about how to
handle
your content on the site how
about that
huh content on the site how
about that
this guy has a womanly voices I
talked
about this before on the show
is one of
the example when you first
start playing
that clip right there again the
same guy
I thought it was the female
okay I told
you there's a lot of men's
voices are
taking a higher register and
there's
been a number of discussions on
TV in
fact about women's voices
taking a lower
register we're pukers we're
swapping
baby we're swapping that's
what's
happening we're swapping men
are men men
are women women a man who the
hell knows
what's going to be great but
listen to
what is what they're saying
here is that
Twitter acknowledges that how
you act
IRL in real life is just as
just as important for them in
determining if you're on their
platform
interesting although you've
mentioned
that video was streamed on
periscope a
lot of this was happening
IRL right like in real life not
he's not
the Twitter platform and
they're like
still this has to stop
yeah it has to stop and Twitter
has
talked about this in the past
but it
definitely thinks about content
in real
life the things you do off the
site when
it makes decisions about how to
handle
your content on the site
because Twitter
recognizes that if you're
promoting
harassment if you're spreading
hate
speech it's the sort of thing
that could
affect real users it could have
a
serious impact on them and
their health
and their safety and in the
past Twitter
has yelled at Jones for
precisely this
behavior the last time that he
got in
trouble at the end of August
Twitter
imposed a seven day suspension
because
Jones took to a video and said
that he
encouraged his supporters to
take up
quote battle rifles against
journalists
and people in the fabrication
he takes
it much further listen here the
last
time that he got in trouble at
the end
of August Twitter imposed a
seven day
suspension because Jones took
to a video
and said that he encouraged his
supporters to take up quote
battle
rifles against journalists and
people on
the left in some of his very
critics the
fact winner was a threat of
violence
it's the sort of thing that the
company
has been under pressure to
clamp down on
I told you I told you that
would become
a whole different story and now
the lie
is set in stone on NPR your
public this
is supported by people like you
your
national treasure yes that's
just AI
that's the part I hate you know
that's
and I love how he said a
Twitter yelled
at him where is this guy from
Twitter
yelled at him it reprimanded
might be a
word you use in a news report
but this
is not news in fact this NPR
has gone so
off the rails but I want to
stick with
the purge for a moment if we're
done
with Jones which I think we are
you know
that it got what's that you got
what you
are today got what I got your
clip of
the day baby
you probably heard this I think
we've
talked about this guy rush
violet
Brothers a day he's he wrote
the he's a
pickup artist and he writes all
these
Bart is guy he's probably a
misogynistic
dick but he I guess he has of
these
books but he I guess he has of
these
like bang Stockholm you know
bang
Belarus and he tells you how to
pick up
girls in these different cities
or
countries and he and so he's
being
purged off of Amazon
yeah and create space here's
here's a
clip of him I've chopped this
down just
to make it interesting for us
it started
on Friday now even though game
came out
on Friday this is him speaking
he's
doing his own little video
podcast a lot
of guys were finding it before
then and
buying it so when it launched
on Friday
game was already ranked in the
top ten
ten thousand so was doing very
well and
I think someone in Amazon
noticed that
because I got this email on
Friday and
the email says during our
review process
we found that the subject
matter of your
book is in violation of our
content
guidelines and this was in
reference to
the best of ruch bang iceland
and bang
poland best of ruch bang
iceland and bang
which by the way i think it's a
must-read bang poland so much
better
than bang moscow book on Friday
and then
Amazon bans three of my other
books so I
was a little bit uneasy peas
once the
seal is broken once they start
banging
one book it's easy to bang a
hundred
thousand after after that sure
enough
Sunday I guess they sent me
another
email and this time this time
they ban
five books and with the same
excuse they
bang books and with the same
excuse they
they banned Bing Estonia bang
Lithuania
bang Ukraine thirty bangs and
pussy and
the thing that gets me when you
see this
guy you think how is this guy
banging
anything paradise and when they
banned
the first three books I try to
get some
answers from them and they just
kept
vaguely referring to their
content
guidelines here they say I'm
sorry but
we can't offer any additional
insight or
action on this matter what
guidelines
are they talking about
it's pretty vague they don't
accept
pornography which I don't sell
obviously
they don't sell offensive
content well
what is offensive content
here's what
they say about it what we deem
offensive
is probably about what you
would expect
and he's showing the screenshot
of that
being their actual guidelines
which is
fair it's just like what why
what is
their problem what happened
well how
does this I mean you can figure
out what
happened someone complained
some no now
I think someone outside the
camera I
think in SJW in the company go
in the
company saw this and she was a
you know
- around the water cooler who
knows what
she worked what her position is
could be
anything and they decided to
just ban
the guy and they look like away
do you
think we can do that yeah we
just ban
him hell with him Ellen male pig
it's all this is just baffling
to me
what are you doing who cares
well the social justice
warriors care
yeah yeah I wound up with a lot
of
social justice warrior stuff
but for
some reason oh yes this is
actually
quite important because we'll
probably
be hearing about this today
being a show
day maybe tomorrow being the
final day
there's a conference going on
right now
in New York City and actually
that's
something I would have if I
were in New
York I would have tried to go
to this I
don't know if I'd be welcome
this is a
technology summit
it's called lesbians who tech
and it's big and here's a
little trailer
they have this event is like the
crystallization of my entire
worldview
all in one place not as big
flashy words
like it's happening New York
the top of
their game here so many
different topics
and such an expert speakers
they're
coming as an attendee you're
gonna meet
incredible people you're gonna
be
inspired by perspectives they
didn't
have you know making the noise
and
pushing and never taking the
note to
change and never taking the
note to
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note to
so you need to come here focus
on the
thing you love and to be around
people
that have so much in common
with you
we're women surround you in
such a like
supportive incredible way and I
think
that's the magic and why people
keep
coming back conference would be
complete
without a fireside chat with
Hillary
Clinton which we're desperately
waiting
for I don't know if it happens
tonight
or if it happens tomorrow night
but this
is a very interesting
conference mainly
because it seems like a great
conference
if you look at their if you
look at the
you know the sessions that they
have
this is a real very interesting
technology conference certainly
for New
York but everyone a little bit
exclusive
sounds it's very exclusionary
and I'm
looking at the website right
now which
is lesbians who tech org and
tech is it
I mean is it Tec Tec a tech
whatwhat do
you how do you Tec yeah I know
well they
Tec I don't know lesbians if I
said hey
Adam go Tech yeah what would
that mean
to you well then you're doing
tech stuff
but what does that mean you
just using
your phone you're making a
phone calls
that is that cuz that is
unfortunately
not that is unfortunately not
in the fa
Q's but I'm sure that I'm sure
that
Leanne Pittsford the founder
and CEO be
very happy to to tell you if
you called
her for an interview
maybe it's code for something
else but
on the but on the website
question
number one do I have to be a
lesbian to
attend this was what I was
interested in
lesbians who tech is committed
to
convening queer women and
technology and
our allies in the vibrant and
inclusive
community we work together to
promote
the visibility and inclusion of
women
LGBTQ people and the people
from other
backgrounds underrepresented in
technology if you work to move
the
mission forward we want you on
our team
nobody has to be a lesbian to
be in the
community has to be a lesbian
to be in the
we used the term to honor those
who
crossed a firewall with it
not quite sure what they're
saying but I
have all the pictures I've seen
there's
no straight white dudes to be
found so I
don't I don't feel so welcome
how do we
show LGBTQ and allied pride
well we create a culture of
vibrant
inclusion except for a straight
white
guys when we make spaces for
ourselves
and others to be influential if
we have
a larger share of privilege we
show
allied pride by making space to
support
others we show pride when we
hire people
finance projects create
opportunities
and share resources we show
pride when
we work to move our community
forward
together work to move our
community forward
also don't understand much of
what that
meant but it seems like a very
very
exclude exclusionary Club and
it's it's
sad really that it comes to
this because
it looks like a good conference
seriously they got a lot of
good tracks
of light we have you ever learn
anything
at one of these conferences
something
last decade know what we'll
hear Pam let
me see what they have oh this is
interesting see what they have
oh this is
about lesbians who tech plus
allies ok
February 2014 they were made
official
then they had 40,000 members 42
plus
chapters worldwide they dubbed
the LWT
sqad leadership program
oh that's lesbians who tech
squad ok
then they got the Edie Windsor
coding
collar ship program then they
have White
House LGBTQ tech lesbians who
tech on an
airplane nice I think you're
ice cold
code and bring a lesbian to
work day
nice no you got to see this
website but
if you look at the tracks they
got
blockchain cryptocurrency
cybersecurity
AI machine learning the future
of work
preparing your organization for
automation the cyber threat
land remote
ly interesting now you never go
to
anything but anyway the Hillary
Clinton
fireside chat will be
interesting and we
hope to hear that very soon
gee I wonder what she's gonna
talk about
herself about what happened of
course
yeah what happened was another
event
where Bob Woodward was in New
York a
couple days ago at to something
something why and he was gonna
be
interviewed by this character
that was I
don't have his name handy but
they
actually broke some news here
and I
thought that this would be the
this is
the good I didn't even listen
to the
would write and pay any
attention to
anything but this one short
clip go
podcasting we also have a
special
announcement about our
moderator tonight
just today he announced that he
is
leaving the slate group to
launch a
podcast company with Malcolm
Gladwell
and who was it like a horrible
announcement can't be here he's
launching a podcasting company
oh you
know he's just a suit and tie
guy you
know looks like a classic you
know
worker journalist worker CIA
guy and
he's launching a podcasting
company with
Malcolm Gladwell who's already
doing
podcasting of sorts okay
explain Malcolm
Gladwell Malcolm Gladwell is
the tipping
point guy hmm he's a writer
that has his
huge afro uh and he writes
nothing but
bestsellers short bestsellers I
like the
tipping point and a bunch of
other books
and they're all of them make a
lot of
money and he talks like this
he's very
good for NPR oh yeah because he
will
keep you in thrall yes because
there's
not really ill has that's just
I don't I
know it's fantastic and you
know when we
do that I should put you left
and I'll
be right that's that's the
total MPR way
think I could do it I'll go
over here
okay I could do it I'll go over
here
okay where you John all right
talk to me
anyway yes okay you got a page
news I
don't get it
can't believe it I can't
believe you
wouldn't do your NPR voice
while I was
doing left and right doesn't
matter with
that I'd like to thank you for
your
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to you
John see who the C stands for
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in a
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67 this
was the doubleheader where you
John John
see did it brought us two
interviews one
with the Scott Adams famous
cartoonist
futurist a hypnotist and a trump
apologist they also Dane
Jasper's is a
Jasper's they also Dane
Jasper's is a
Dane Jesper the Dane Jesper
from sonic
net which I actually had to set
a few
people straight on the tweeters
it's
like oh nice native add Dvorak
people
thinking oh nice native add
Dvorak people
yeah I don't know they just say
you
don't like us did we get a
check from
Dane I wish did you ask him
maybe I'd like both nervous
comes up in
the conversation quite a bit
there are
products that we like people
that we
like and we if we like it would
just do
it would yeah maybe it is a
puff piece
but it's not that you know
we're doing
it for money we're not hold on
whoa whoa
whoa whoa whoa whoa greatest
thing I've
ever said light on this foam
mattress
did you get accused of it being
a puff
piece what no but I got accused
of being
native ad I personally thought
it was a
puff piece all right but it was
interesting the only reason it
was the
puff piece because I didn't know
anything did this call it's
because I
said let me get an interview
and why I'm
doing this because you needed an
interview for this is missing
show and I
I just wanted to know how the
technology
works because then what is call
and all
the details about with the
candidate
because I started looking into
and
there's like all kinds of
different ways
that this is done so you could
have just
called the helpdesk but you
want instead
you did an interview that's
what you're
saying yeah from the guy who's
doing it
so I had so I found out what
kind of
gear is using I tried to figure
out
whether I could read I'm
looking to see
okay I see what that okay can I
replace
that with something better I'm
always
thinking to myself and
apparently not at
this point I thought I thought
it was
interesting to listen to I
enjoyed it
very much and I and I really
liked the
the Scott Adams interview and I
like
that format where it's very
conversational it sounds like
you're in
a room with somebody it's not
all room I
know it's not at all the style
of the
show typically but I luckily
default no
but I'd like I'd like that so
it was
very enjoyable to me
thank you for abusing my my
disability
for a cheap laugh in your show
oh yes we
did mention cuz I thought Scott
had
Tourette's oh you didn't know
that he
does he does now he does now
and now
he's gonna be concerned about
it but the
story about you know him not
being able
to speak and and you know the
Kutta
the nerves in his neck and then
he had
the couldn't for three and a
half years
oh holy crap and you wouldn't
know it
when when you listen to the guy
today
and at some point yeah and and
really
his whole stories the entire
story makes
up for some of the pompous ass
he can be
at point yeah is it was like
I'm a great
hypnotist I'm uh MB I'm great
and
they're like yeah you are
actually shit
it's kind of great and and he's
it it's
issued I'm humble they should
add that
to his roster I'm humble but it
was very
interesting and I learned a lot
about
him and I things I never knew
and the
fact that he was the one that
showed you
the world wide web was
interesting the
more you know type fact yeah
yes this is
alone in 93 it's when I first
ran into
him I saw a few times sense but
then I
guess I haven't seen him for a
decade or
long enough that I missed this
whole
can't speak thing and I wanted
to get
the story and I was actually
stunned by
this oh I didn't realize it was
three
and a half years of not being
able to
talk but being able to talk fine
everybody but you know and so
the kind
of guy he is is then you know
this comic
strip blogger comes up with a
you know a
cool version of Dilbert with 40
percent
which is how much business he
says he's
lost because of his analysis of
Trump
and know and yeah we were like
ah that's
great this is perfect now let's
ask him
anything yes yeah most
cartoonists
I think that kind of anal about
that
stuff aren't they but what
about money
they make no know about someone
using
their art and changing it and
using it
for different purpose I know
you did but
I thought that was nice that he
said yes
so that shows he's a good guy
yeah many
of the artists are very yeah
they're
freaky about it and I know for
a fact
when in the early days of the
Internet
in the probably the late night
he Scott
was actually uh
tracking down anyone who is
posting
repost it's not sure and then
threatening him but if shaking
his fist
I don't know what else you
could do and
I didn't know anything about
his food
business and how he had screwed
that up
I was it was very soon
more to me where I had this I
had lots
of money and I had a helicopter
fractional ownership company
and 9/11
happens like that was the
beginning of a
long slide no one was using
private
aviation for a while after 9/11
and
that's when he his restaurants
you know
the order hit the restaurant he
had in
some crazy place with a
horrible lease
and he just you know tanked on
that a
lot of stuff you don't know
about the
guy yeah I did yeah I had I had
worked
on I spent a cup probably I had
a file
open and every once well a
question
would come to mind I put it in
there hey
how much how many other
interesting
friends can we interview before
they are
dead or we are I get quite a
few I just
have to do it yeah we'll give
me one
name that would be interesting
it was a good name that would
be in well
I know who would be interesting
to me
uh-huh know who would be
interesting to me
I want to do him yes so dismiss
guy this
guy Draper yes
this guy Draper's 90 something
he runs
her wine he's one of the
original wine
importers in California and he
knows
everything about the wine
industry today
and he finally opened up a
small shop
cuz you know I'm thinking with
all these
interviews now I have a couple
people I
can call you know we've got a
product
maybe not sorry once again
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news about Sweden their recent
election
and their uncertain future
well the coalition's on both
the center
left in the center-right in
Sweden have
lost ground including prime
ministers to
find levain his group on the
center left
but the far-right the
anti-immigration
party the Sweden Democrats have
gained
ground their leader has said in
fact one
notice notice by the way that
the the
far-right is actually called the
Democrats the Swedish Democrats
very
interesting how these how these
parties
are titled and named in
different
countries and what they stand
for but
the far-right the
anti-immigration party
the Sweden Democrats have
gained ground
their leader has said in effect
they won
in fact they didn't actually
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portion of the vote from about
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time to almost 18% in this
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here's how they see that result
but what we've seen here is the
political earthquake bring the
blocks
the Swedish political history
and I
think that the leaders of the
two big
parties the Social Democrats
and the
moderate party need to listen
to this
people need to change the
policies
people want to see they want to
see real
change a few things worth
underscoring
here for a long time Sweden has
been
considered a bastion of social
liberalism and this the Sweden
Democrats
have their roots in the neo-nazi
movement an anti-immigration
party they
want red sounds familiar
a few G's to return back to
their native
countries and they no longer
want Sweden
to accept any more refugees or
asylum
seekers coming in now keep in
mind
Sweden took in one hundred and
sixty
three thousand asylum seekers
back in
just in 2015 and that is the
biggest
percentage of the population
compared to
all other EU countries and if
you want
to compare that to Canada
compare apples
to apples here with Canada's
population
it would have been like Canada
taking in
five hundred and ninety-two
thousand
asylum seekers in one year
reshmi in
Sweden this far-right party
seems to
have found a way to capitalize
on a real
concern in the country
regarding all
those newcomers okay so that's
kind of
the m5m take on it you know
obviously
we've got the the Nazis you know
horrible and immigration but
when you
when you really dig down into
what's
happening in Sweden and for
this I'm
going to turn us to a podcast
and I
think it's valid and relevant
in this
case because we really don't
know much
about Sweden other than exactly
what you
heard in that report Swede and
it's like
no they are just the next to
Denmark the
happiest people on earth
everything's
great there's no poverty it's
fantastic
free health care free schooling
it's just everyone looks cute
in up sex
is fantastic the food is video
fishy
just whatever it is sweet is
the best
that best ever and it turns out
that
Sweden has also just slowly
degraded
into a shithole country which
on the
deconstructive critic podcast
hoe in
this case it's Jens gunman
an errand Flum they did this
one in
English which I'm very happy
about I
can't understand me Swedish
sounds like
someone a Dutch person speaking
Dutch
while drunk so I can get pick
up a few
words here and there but they
did this
one in English and I thought it
was
interesting what they did is
they trace
back what has been happening in
Sweden
to the time when Trump said
look what's
going on in Sweden you recall
that
everyone went what the hell is
he
talking about
they give us they write songs
for
Britney Spears I mean are you
nuts this
is Sweden you're talking about
and of
course that's how we see Sweden
so these
guys kind of lift the veil I'm
sure
they're biased I'm sure that
you know I
think there actually have been
called
out by the state-run mainstream
media as
you know these guys are
problematic
they're they're part of the
problem they
actually talk about it I think
most
media and I don't have to have
commercial television I'm not
sure but
they do talk about the Swedish
run TV
and the collusion between the
press and
the government so I'll start I
just have
two quick two clips the first
one again
is gents & Flom against an
errand and
this is they're talking about
after how
Trump kind of gave licence to
people to
speak the truth about what's
going on
Sweden after he said that we
were we
were famous before for a very
small
country at the edge of the
world with
almost no impact on world
affairs
we're very famous that's true
then we're
famous for a very special
reason aren't
we which is the Swedish here
the best
country in the world it was
progressive
the most equal the most general
neutral
yeah and that's why journalists
after
Trump felt that they could it
was open
season on Sweden from that
point and we
became the focal point for
criticism
that had to do with failed
integration
and and crime rising crime and
and we
became the Rick quote
a great capital of the world
but but
what Trump said was essentially
a
starting point for pundits like
Paul
Joseph Watson Stefan mole moley
name
what's his name you know the
new ex-mo
linear said it's okay to
bad-mouth
sweeteners so that was a
starting point
in essence but I think we need
to set
the record straight there
because these
people said that Sweden was
almost a
Orwellian society where
journalists
slide and politician slide and
we had
huge problems with with like I
said
immigration and integration but
it's not
as bad as they said it's worse
so we
need to set the record straight
there
with after Trump said his
famous words
about last night in Sweden all
the
Swedish newspapers went out
he's crazy
nothing happened last night and
the
night after he had said that
there was
riots and car carbecue split
carbecue
that's a new organ looks good
so there's
been like I think 16,000 burned
cars for
the past 10 years something
like that
between 3 and 4 day yeah it
happened
Sweden is a very small country
we should
point that out and it's not a
very I
mean not at least when it comes
to the
urban areas not everyone has a
car
exactly and Sweden is about
this big is
a mid-sized American state with
10
million people's you know if
you have
like three or four car burnings
every
night all year round that's a
lot of
cars that that that's someone
is for
addicted yeah but the
journalists in
Sweden they talk about this
problem as
if the cars sort of it was
spontaneous
combustion the cars sort of it
was spontaneous
yes it's not like someone set
fire to
the cars the cars suddenly
burst into
flames because of socio-economic
varieties I find this
fascinating I had
no we heard about a couple car
fires I
didn't know it was 16,000
that's a lot
and are these all Volvo's and
do Volvo's
burn are these all Volvo's and
do Volvo's
early org well I mean I'd like
to know
well they have a lot of sob
isn't a lot
of BMWs there most of the Volos
go to
California but they don't make
sobs
anymore that Saab was dead I
thought
Saab they still have him on the
road
there's cars that they make in
Sweden
last 10 20 years I've been
looking at
the new Volvo I think they're
getting
sexier before if you're over 50
so now
in the second clip they'll talk
about
these you know the
photographers who
were hired by the government to
do well
before you continue yeah I'm
glad you
got this clip because one of
the things
I've just been baffling to me
is that
you here at the one side of the
story
and the various blogs about the
mess
Sweden's become right and then
you hear
the official story which is the
oh you
know it's just they're just
making you
know it's all bullcrap you know
they're
exaggerating this is the same
thing the
South African story it's all I
don't
understand how they think they
can get
away with this if it's not true
it's and
this is why I think I predict
more or
less that you and I will be
finding more
podcast material in the future
I mean
especially from other countries
it's
really really helpful to just
hear so
now have I checked the
statistic of
16,000 no but I'm gonna think
they're
pretty they got to be pretty
close to
being realistic about this
there's just
the it is completely the
opposite when
you when you hear about what
journalists
in this case photo journalists
are doing
to for some reason
maintain the image and I
certainly don't
think that what is the point of
this
I don't know well listen to the
clip and
then we'll discuss after that
about
Sweden Swedish photographers
decide to
disproved from right and we
have museums
here and in Sweden museums are
owned and
funded by the state right and
so we have
in Stockholm we have a very
popular
museum it's called the Museum of
Photography it's the only
popular museum
because Swedes can't appreciate
art if
it's not you know an exact
representation of what they see
in their
daily lives so they love
photography and
they go to see the photography
museum
right go to see the photography
museum
and a lot of photographers in
Sweden
famous photographers got some
sort of I
support assignment from the
government
or from the museum to produce
pictures
to disprove image of sweet Oh
what
happened there okay
ended weirdly but you got the
idea that
they had they did all these
pictures
that to disprove what what
Trump was
saying well yeah Sweden's
beautiful you
can take great beautiful
pictures of
Sweden as long as you avoid the
carb
accuse as long as you avoid the
carb
a couple of things interesting
in there
that I didn't know one and I'd
been to
Sweden and I've did some
research before
I went so I wouldn't be an
idiot in the
Stockholm once that's all
once I've been all over the
place I went
all the way up and down I had a
miss
miss Phoebe trail I had a miss
Sweden
hit on me once but she was 60
didn't
really don't know if that counts
[Music] don't know if that
counts
then there was before all this
just
what's going on now is this
comment that
he made that Swedes don't like
art they
like that because they're all
into
realism so the only art they
would light
would be hyper realism which
some people
do yes it's not an unknown form
of oil
painting in fact it's very
popular in
some instances some people are
extremely
talented at doing it but
they're so they
like photographs so they and
wonder you
did there's got to be something
to that
because that if you don't like
art you
like just like realism or
photographs
you would maybe be more
susceptible to
government propaganda all very
possible
if you if you're only into
realism that
I'm sure reality television
could do a
lot to you
interesting Swedish situation
you got to
stay on these guys and did with
their
podcast yeah I was it this whole
situation has been baffling to
me yeah I
mean I've seen documentary
Paula why is
it baffling to you this is
happening all
over Europe why is it baffling
to you
why wouldn't the number one
special
justice wouldn't the number one
special
wait Sweden the social justice
country
of the world why wouldn't they
be you
know all in on all the stuff
that is
ruining everything
it's baffling to me because
it's such an
extreme hmm it's like nothing's
sneaking
I mean there's no other stuff
for this
clip you've got this leaks out
it leaks
on some blogs and the blogs are
condemned for being blind Nazis
Nazis
and so I'm finding that's this
Wheaton
thing to be the most
problematic of all
the whole entire sky keep doing
podcast
in English because it's very
informative
and and it's it's you know the
more you
know they encouraged me they'll
do one
use one a month
yeah I enjoyed it and I hope
they do
more in English
oh I do have something that I
think
you'll enjoy what's the latest
on this
anonymous op-ed I want to
change my I
want to change my my view by
the way as
to who wrote it who was the main
character behind it but the
latest
identify me because I do have a
clip
which I'm gonna push off to the
sunday
show because I forgot to move
it over
and it surprises me that the
clip was
not more widely spread and
didn't get go
viral and it was the clip that
Fallon
had where they took pieces out
of the op
out of the op ED and then they
then they
found pence saying each one of
these
things oh I heard about this
clip I
haven't heard you don't have it
I have
it out here on Sunday
well first I'm glad I'm okay
sorry go
ahead but the kicker was
what was that word you found it
lodestone a low-salt lodestar
lodestar
he cut it caught pen saying it
in three
different speeches interesting
well it's
it's a nautical term now when
that
happened and they had all these
other
clips from pence but the
Loadstar thing
as soon as that happened I said
to
myself as a writer oh this has
been
planted oh god I can't see
tightly my
story it's not answer trying to
you know
yes yes yeah they're trying
they're
trying to make it look like
pence you
got that then you got you guys
was at
Kimmel you said was it Kimmel
who found
it that was on Fallon no Fallon
okay so
that is clearly oh my god
Mockingbird to
the max yeah okay I have a clip
that
fits like hanging out in the
White House
and I haven't again doing this
or one of
the guys or maybe I'm not even
in the
White House but I maybe was or
whatever
cuz you had to remember a
couple of
things about this what stop
right there
no just stop there I have to
play this
clip because what you just said
leads us
right into this and this is a
great clip
for a number of reasons I think
ray got
this forest producer ray NPR's
Scott
Simon with Jill Abramson former
editor
of the New York Times also
known as the
Berkley Hummer so this clip is
no matter
what happens you know it's
gonna be good
because she's a Hummer and she's
hilarious to listen to but
listen to
what he says and the flub he
makes and
this is about the anonymous
op-ed in The
New York Times the editor the
New York
Times doesn't make the decision
it's the
opinion page editor right
that's exactly
right Scott there's a very
strict line
inside the New York Times
between the
news side of the paper and
opinions so
should the Times have just run
a news
story reporting that a
high-ranking
government official tried to
plant an
op-ed with him place an op-ed
did he say plant instead of
place and
did he between the news side of
the
paper and opinion so should the
times
have just run a news story
reporting
that a high-ranking government
official
tried to plant an op-ed with
him place
an op-ed in which they say
they're
working around the president
because
they don't trust his mental
fitness for
office I don't I don't think so
i think
the the publication of the
anonymous
editorial was entirely
appropriate and
more striking more newsworthy
because it
was in the own words of the
author even
though he or she did not want
to put
their name to us you imagine
having sex
with this woman that's not a
little more
to the right just didn't happen
that we
have left whistleblowers are
frequently
somewhere in the in the thicket
of
bureaucracy this is a
self-described
high-ranking official trail
they would
have a lot of employment
options I mean
okay they might lose their job
so
they'll be on this show
tomorrow if they
do it's true I see your point
and it's a
good one but I also think if
this person
is in a high-ranking position
they
portray themselves as
functioning almost
like a brake system he's trying
to stop
the worst impulses of this
president and
if there was on to get another
position
that break that safeguard to
the public
would no longer be there Jill
Abramson
former executive editor at The
New York
Times thanks so much for being
with us
thanks so much Scott
I love the plant flub though
because
that makes so much sense
particularly
with with Fallon than neo oh
look pence
says this three times perfect a
couple
things I wanted to note is that
one if
I'm doing this say I'm working
there and
I'm I can write
I also know that people can
identify
certain characteristics on my
writing
you know it's a scam would be
one of
them right
not a great question not a great
question my writing necessary
but I have
certain quirks in my writing
that people
can identify this the pacing
the style
and there's a lot of programs
that can
identify authors oh yes machine
learning
the first thing you do is you
look for
your target like Who am I gonna
target
to make it look like he did it
and then
I just go back and look at the
records
and then I just wait for them
to say
something over and over and the
things
that pence said over and over
are all
put into this thing I put them
in
awkwardly I'm gonna have to
look this
thing over more carefully but I
put him
in awkward and you wouldn't you
nobody
no writer uses the word
lodestar no ever
no personally I write mine two
or three
times you say well I'm gonna
put this in
there cuz this will really put
the nail
in the coffin on this guy and I
think
you know this is a here's what
happened
in my opinion if you remember
during the
first early six months of the
Trump
administration leaks were
coming out
left and right because they had
his
office bugged right and then he
moved
out of the Oval Office and they
did a
redo and they put some you know
anti bug
surveillance work in there and
then so
for the next year all the stuff
that was
coming out bad about Trump was
not
really was either from somebody
who
would they know who it was
leaked it or
it was just made up or it was
you know
disgruntled employee always
bitching
about their boss which is not
which is
not uncommon but they didn't
they lost
the ability to have all these
these they
don't have the bugs in the
office it
seems to me stuff like this
comes out
and it's you know this it's very
carefully orchestrated it's got
the New
York Times is always a bad
actor or in
this thing and the fake stuff
about load
started I'm not buying it we I
do have
one clip on this topic yes I'm
glad you
got this I'm glad you got this
one if
this is the Trump's voice then
that's
dumb glad you got I got that
too but
that's not what I just of the
clip is oh
I got the FBI director talking
about the
memo on one of the networks
the president has said that he
wants the
Attorney General to investigate
who
wrote that anonymous New York
Times
op-ed do you believe as the
President
does that this is an issue of
national
security that this is an issue
of national
well first off I can tell you I
didn't
write it I didn't have anything
to do
with it
second I would tell you that
we're not
really on practice of
confirming or
discussing whether we're going
to be
conducting a particular
investigation I
would tell you that we're going
to make
decisions about that kind of
thing based
on all the factors we normally
do which
is whether or not we have
sufficient
evidence of federal crime I
want to ask
you about the content of it it
I didn't
quite understand what he said
there he's
whether we have evidence of a
federal
crime what does that have to do
with who
the identity of the in the
op-ed well
he's gonna tell you that he
didn't write
it and then they're doing it
well what's
this about a number crying I
I'm gonna
back it up well they did the
president
told the FBI to look into this
it must
be a crime of practice so he
says we're
now gonna do no we're not don't
worry we
do not confirming or discussing
whether
we're gonna be conducting a
particular
investigation I would tell you
that
we're gonna make decisions
about that
kind of thing based on all the
factors
we normally do which is whether
or not
we have sufficient evidence of
federal
crime I want to ask you about
the
content of it it described the
president's leadership style is
quote
impetuous adversarial petty and
ineffective they said that the
root of
the president's promises quote a
morality does that sound like
the
president you know I try very
hard to
make sure that my relationship
with the
president is a professional one
and
that's what I think the
relationship
should be between any FBI
director and
any president look I'm still
gonna say
John this was written by
someone who's
on his side where there was a
composite
or not I'm not gonna argue
because you
heard Jill Abramson also say
wow it's
the break so we have a safety
break and
does it makes everybody happy
hey we got
heroes in the White House
you're nothing
to worry about
yeah well this I did not like
this guy
because his answer to the last
question
should have been not in my
experience
that's your history I agree
it's not
like well I don't know baby
lunatic for all I know he says
you know
the question is the impetuous
adversarial petty I'm thinking
too
anything when they say that
what boss
isn't exactly almost every CEO
that you
ever run into there's at least
he's not
a screamer right there used to
be a
couple major Silicon Valley
guys that
weren't in the tour in fact
Microsoft
dubbed uh Steve Ballmer
oh yeah they're very impetuous
how about
Steve Jobs people said he was a
terrace
area yeah sure very adversarial
and he
would be and petty they're all
that way
no and but the thing that was
at the end
was the immorality again I'm
not saying
that this is every CEO you ever
run into
a lot more very moral there was
people
well you know you go ahead but
a lot of
them don't did morality doesn't
come
into the picture of Management
well this
kind of brings us to me too
because we
had you know there was some
more hashtag
nice to me to stuff that came
out of
course we know that Les Moonves
is out
and you just hear but you know
here's
the thing
les moon do you mind if I just
switch
over to this for a second much
more no
not until you play that you
might as
well try to play Trump voice
yeah
because I'm glad you got this
because I
didn't hear it because of the
bandwidth
situation I was I'll love it I
wasn't on
the dongle but of course I knew
exactly
this is because he takes
propecia right
slurs is once in a while this
comes up
with yeah that's as I forgot
what it was
it's propecia makes you slur
the latest
active resistance is the op-ed
published
in the failing New York Times
by an
anonymous that was coward he
tries it
twice and forget about it man
it just
can't be done oh and it's
interesting
because you could hear the
latest you
hear you hear firstly doesn't
know how
to pronounce it that's the big
problem
and then the slur kicks in it's
like a
Tourette's issue almost is the
op-ed
published in the failing New
York Times
by an anomaly economists a
colored did
you think anyone says mr.
president you
real it's anonymous
is there any does Melania say
that to
him I think here we just rolls
our eyes
that's what's sad mr. president
please
people clip this mr. president
it's
people like us it's anonymous we
understand the propecia issue
and we're
very sorry about that
especially I got
lots of hair I got lots of hair
that's
that's pathetic
that's sad twice in a row let's
see if I
just go to meet you yeah yeah
okay okay
so me too we've got less
movements
what's interesting and
different about
maybe different about les
Moonves
and Tina pointed this out and
guys yeah
we were we drove from Florence
to look
like four hour drive is
fantastic you
know every every 30 seconds
teams like
yeah because I'm I'm like I
blend into
European driving left right
whatever is
straddle the line reading this
to me and
she says these dates these
women that he
apparently assaulted and I
thump she
sounds like it's true there
3752 these
are not like young chickens
these are
you know these are mature women
and some
of them said fuck yeah I'm not
gonna do
that and then walked away and I
think
some were penalized but there's
something going on and and I'm
not quite
sure how to articulate it but
there's is
a certainly in show business
there is a
we have a situation we're very
powerful
men actually exert their power
and prove
their power by doing this and
it's
really threatening women so far
let's
just say it's men doing this to
women
because what you don't hear is
don't
tell anybody come on don't
Trump does
that Trump's like oh let me
give you
$150,000 don't tell anybody if
my wife
you know its net and it goes he
cuz he's
a philandering douche but these
guys
it's different they they are
they get
their power by being scary men
who can
ruin your career and every
story you
read is women saying well I
didn't
report it because I thought my
chance of
my career will be gone oh yeah
I blame
them no I don't blame them
either but
it's a two-way street in the
patriarchy
you know it we need some heroes
here and
we have a few but we need more
heroes
who say I'm gonna stand up to
this guy I
don't care about my career but
it you
know you read over and over
again people
care about their career and it
just
propagates and look at these
guys and
they're all and they're all we
need
dickheads you and I could beat
up any
one of them you you and I could
beat him
up of them you you and I could
beat him
you understand what I'm saying
yes now let's let's go to the
newest guy
this is a clean sweep at CBS
yeah and
this is CBS reporting on the
firing of
the head and news and the head
of the 60
minute show finger they ousted
him while
you were traveling around while
you were
looking at the art and Florence
he just
gave this game we didn't go to
Florence
not look in the or Darden floor
instead
but okay you're floating around
we were
drinking toilet wine yes I get
like a
dog let's this a couple did
long clip
and then there's the the kicker
which is
the woman who's reporting on
this is the
one who is at the center of the
problem
for this guy Fagor who does
sound like a
complete douchebag and he was
part of
the of the Moonves click along
with
Charlie Charlie Rose's go as
CBS fires
figure one BS news today fired
Jeff
Fager one BS news today fired
Jeff
the executive producer of 60
minutes
who'd spent 36 years at the
network in
less than a year now three of
the most
powerful men in broadcasting
figure CBS
chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves
and CBS
this morning co-host Charlie
Rose all
accused of sexual misconduct
have either
been fired or resigned
Jericka Duncan has the latest
on Fager
including his controversial
text message
Jeff Maggert the executive
producer of
the oldest and most successful
news
magazine program in history 60
minutes
was fired from CBS News this
afternoon
in it's more than 50 years on
air only
two people have led that
broadcast Fager
succeeded the show's creator
Don Hewitt
in 2004 Baker also recently
served as
the chairman of the CBS News
Division
helps people when we cover a
story and
reported on Sunday night and it
has
impact on Monday morning that's
what you
hope for
fagor hire Charlie Rose for
multiple
roles at the network in
November rose
was terminated this July 6
female former
CBS employees told The New
Yorker
vinegar would touch employees
in ways
that made them uncomfortable
drinking at
office parties what
so they're at an office party
and
everyone of course is drinking
at the
office party and then the guy
touches in
ways that they feel
uncomfortable this
is why let's imagine a couple
of those
things couple things you can
we've
witnessed it yeah I've had
office
parties I've been a boss yes
there's
been the guy who goes up and he
says oh
hi I'm Jill you're new here and
then he
he's like shaking her hands and
then
rubbing her arm very slowly
with his
left hand there's no juice do
she do
food the other one is the guy
who who's
likes this slap is you know
just sitting
next somebody puts his hand on
her knee
and then she doesn't like take
the hand
off the knee of media the girls
take a
hit here you leave the things a
hand on
there you don't know if you
leave it on
there it's gonna start moving
north
yeah north and so that is to me
uncomfortable death this guy
looks like
a douche but he really
shouldn't have
office parties you know I've
always been
a fan of having a Friday
afternoon drink
with everybody and then you go
home and
you go do your family and your
partner
and you have fun but the office
parties
is not a good idea yeah you
might be
right not a good idea yeah you
might be
before Fager hired Charlie Rose
for
multiple roles at the network in
November roles at the network in
Rose was terminated this July 6
female
former CBS employees told The
New Yorker
Fager would touch employees in
ways that
made them uncomfortable after
drinking
at office parties 19 current
and former
employees told The New Yorker
Fager
allowed harassment and the
division
Fager harassment and the
division
vehemently denied all of those
claims
Fager continued to come to work
on
Sunday the New Yorker reported
a new
accuser said she felt compelled
to speak
because she simply can't
believe Fager
is back there the article
described her
as a producer who was an intern
at CBS
in the early 2000s who said
that he
groped her at a work party in
response
to that allegation Fager told
CBS News
this is an outrageous claim and
it
didn't happen it is wrong
kurz departure comes days after
CBS
chairman and CEO Leslie Moonves
resigned
following allegations of sexual
assault
and harassment we caught up
with CBS
News president David Rhodes
today after
he briefed the 60 minute staff
I can't
talk to you guys about in a
statement
today Rhodes said fakers
dismissal is
not directly related to the
allegations
surfaced in press reports which
continued to be investigated and
dependently however he violated
company
policy and it is our commitment
to
uphold those policies through
his
attorney faker told CBS News
they
terminated my contract early
because I
sent a text message to one of
our own
CBS reporters demanding that
she be fair
and covering the story my
language was
harsh CBS did not like it now
let's stop
there CBS did not like it now
let's stop
couple of things one the CBS
president
didn't wouldn't talk this is a
report by
CBS hello I'm Eve your own
president you
know what is wrong with you and
then
they did get rid of him on a
technicality because when you
were just
woman the during the report is
the one
who got the note and she
revealed it
publicly and she's now going to
go back
and read the note it's a tweet
or so
there's our email or a text and
when you
hear it you're gonna go oh shit
everything is true my language
was harsh
CBS did not like it I am that
reporter
since Jeff Fager publicly
referred to
our exchange today I want to be
transparent about it first
here's some
background Sunday evening I
reached out
to Phaedra for comment on the
articles
alleging he groped or touched
CBS
employees at company parties in
addition
to denying these charges figure
in a
text said to me quote if you
repeat
these false accusations without
any of
your own reporting to back them
up you
will be held responsible for
harming he
went on to say be careful there
are
people who lost their jobs
trying to
harm me and if you pass on these
damaging claims without your own
reporting to back them up
that will become a serious
problem I got
to ask you a question
we are too
hmm older white straight males
we have
both been in positions of power
I had a
company with 400 employees
public
company why do we not do this
and why
are there some guys who do or
is it pure
Evan what is it what what
happens is it
because I mean these guys have
they've
wives at home partners what is
going
wrong at home partners what is
going
what is happy it can't just be
that men
need to spread their seed
everywhere
this I mean if something is
very very
wrong I mean if something is
very very
their relationship is wrong I
mean I'm
really I'm struggling to
understand how
this how it's not in my DNA and
I know
it's not in yours how does this
happen
where is this coming from is it
purely
the industry the sector I think
it's got
I think the industry is largely
responsible and you you
gravitate toward
these industries and when
you're in them
floating around then whether
you're in
them for a little short term or
long
term it's kind of almost part
of that
subculture of these industries
the TV
radio movie industry the
subculture is
very sexual well that's also
because the
product is sexual so that makes
sense
advertising I would say
politics as well
I think Putney own did still
advertising
your advertising a message
there's
there's that that's show
business for
ugly people is often said so I
think
this just a business with
sexual nature
in it isn't is not helpful but
Tim how
does it happen I think if you
were I
don't know how it happens
because has
never happened to us but if you
were
like rut getting but I mean
move this is
gonna get a hundred million
dollars for
getting kicked well they're
clones
million dollars a year let's
say and
you're running CBS and you're
calling
the shots online all these
shows you
know that you're you're green
you're the
guy do so it's just power
you're saying
is just power and but have that
power
over people that it that power
music
ating people that it that power
music
and okay
but I've had power so it could
happen to
anybody could have and it
happens to
women look at Janet Napolitano
his
operation when she was running
the
Homeland Security yeah
yeah but I don't want to I
don't want to
pollute the waters and just try
and
understand how it happens why it
happened and is it in every
industry it
seems like it's not it's in
politic
system banking or finance it's
it's
everywhere so it is power then
it's just
just power that's the answer we
have
well it's the only answer I can
come up
with it yeah power and control
well
the only other side is who
podcasters
donate well not anymore for
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there's also there's a new
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clip but
that it's really you have to
see I did
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this
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with
Harvey Weinstein she says she
locked the
door and he raped her
eventually but she
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that
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product
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hug and
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every move
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I would presume that you know
matt lauer
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from there
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Lauer there
you mentioned that about Scott
Adams he
was that guy and of course as
I'm
listening to your interview
with him
like I'll crap I've been that
guy most
of my life - may I bring curry
along
some chick there will probably
remember
him from MTV and by our stupid
product
yeah very common we had does
kind of
celebrity sales guys at PC
Magazine for
a while they were known to
anybody
except for the people that saw
them
there's really good-looking
really
really good-looking guys and
most of the
women ad buyers were almost the
ad bars
were women and so you'd send
these guys
in there and they would be like
the
flirtatious dapat their eyes
you know they do all the things
the girl
would do and they and I
remember the one
time I was told this by once it
says but
one guy got promoted out to some
publishing job and so then the
new
newbies go into this office
where
they're big buyers of the
massive
amounts of advertising and the
woman in
there goes you know yeah I can't
remember his name but come
would think
it's just Robbie she said
where's Robbie
and she was like so hard she was
brokenhearted that the sales
guy didn't
show up anymore
none of they had they round him
up to
send him over there to get
that's the
thing that deal done but yeah
this is a
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