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1170: Generational Justice

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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September 5th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir Dreb Scott of the ELB express, James Anderson, Sir Dwayne Melancon, Grand Duke of the Pacific NW, Christopher Dolan, Cynthia Cabrera

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Jonny B, Sir Dave Fugazzotto, Viscount of America's Heartland and Saudi Arabia, Kevin Koberna, Phil Watterson, John Foley, Sir Lucas of the Lost Bits, David deGeus, Dude Named Craig FEMA region 5

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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  • 0:00
    boom his eyeball blows out Adam Curry
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    Jhansi Dvorak 2019 this is your award
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    winning give our nation media
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    assassination episode 1170 this is no
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    agenda still fighting dark mode and
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    broadcasting in the morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley I'm John C Dvorak the last show
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    was so long it took us three three
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    retakes to do it and now it's done one
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    and one and done it got a laugh yeah
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    yeah for me yes it's true whoo oh man
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    what's been going on blues yeah yeah
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    what's been going on but I'll tell you
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    what I did yesterday and then you tell
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    me where you'd like to start because I
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    watched a lot of that climate change
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    watched very little of it every time I
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    turn it I watched it why am i watching
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    this it was a pathway can elizabeth
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    warren gesticulate more gesticulate what
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    is just stick you lating throwing her
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    arms all over the place when she talks
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    she makes a huge circle with her arm and
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    she's throwing her arms left and right
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    and left and right i mean it's like if
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    she poke somebody's eye at us they were
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    standing nearer
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    yeah it's it's the whole thing it from a
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    television production standpoint what a
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    losing piece of crap why would anybody
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    want to watch that well I watched a
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    little bit of Elizabeth Warren
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    I watched very little of Kamala the
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    giggler yeah and I will say this that
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    Scott Adams had a interesting take on
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    Kamala Harris he says that she has de
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    and I yeah I think he's maybe right
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    about this she has the personality of a
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    submissive huh interesting
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    because I have a clip where that kind of
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    kind of comes out and just looking at
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    this obviously the audience was stacked
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    it wasn't really a town hall it was a
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    CNN studio where they had you know the
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    it was bogus changing images of the
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    hurricane Dorian on the on the big
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    screen because of course you know we
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    know that this is all due to climate
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    change and really I just I because it
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    was it was ten hours and everybody got a
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    turn and it's easy to grab the gaps in
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    the dumbness but I just took two two
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    examples of how set up and scripted this
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    was because by the way I disagree with
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    you right away
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    it's not easy to pull out the gaps out
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    of a 10-hour document
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    I just needle dropped and found stuff it
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    was that easy but when I when I'm saying
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    what I was interested in is how it was
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    set up and you know if you and I were to
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    produce this
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    I think someone had some humor I'd be
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    like okay Elizabeth Warren now let's get
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    some questions for her oh I know
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    let's get an American Indian desk or a
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    question great let's do that Cobra del
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    she's from a narrow island of land in
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    Louisiana known as Isle de Jean Charles
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    it's rapidly disappearing because of
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    rising sea levels and just leave it will
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    deconstruct it in a minute coastal
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    erosion Chantal thank you very much for
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    being with us what's your question
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    Chantal thank you so as he said I'm from
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    the Jean Charles Biloxi Jeremiah Choctaw
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    tribe we've been to designating as
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    this is great the Cheung Chau Chak Chak
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    turret prod I didn't even hear what she
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    said but she's like something Chuck
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    she's right out of central casting she's
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    perfect to ask an American Indian which
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    is the preferred way to categorize them
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    an American Indian to ask a question of
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    the fake American Indian it's a great
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    idea CNN first American climate refugees
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    were the first American climate refugees
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    mm-hmm we had a front-row seat to a
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    climate change for the past 20 years I
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    was had to move my home from Ireland
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    home when I was little due to mold
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    induced asthma and from replete finally
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    repeat flooding so my question to you is
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    if president what changes would you make
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    to support communities like mine who
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    face community-wide displacement and
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    cultural Eurasia oh man I love that she
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    said it's a cultural erasure or because
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    it should be climate erasure as I said
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    cultural called race sure erasure how
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    about cultural climate erasure I'm just
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    looking for a term here now listen to
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    the submissive Liz go into her spiel and
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    she knew this was coming watch your home
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    disappear and know you've done
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    everything you can do what the forces
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    bigger than you I have taken over and
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    when when I think about climate now this
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    was interesting she was so ready for
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    this she took that and when she when she
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    says no let me tell you about this when
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    I think about kinda she turned to the
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    camera and goes into a pre rehearse
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    spiel it was it was slick and so I see
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    it this way when when I think about
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    climate is the existential threat it is
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    the one to threaten all life on this
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    planet the only day we're losing species
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    it's changing the oceans are getting
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    more yeah so when I first started
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    thinking about how to describe what I
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    will fight for you
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    president I decided I wasn't gonna do
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    one climate plan no no no no one no no
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    no not just one plan I decided I was
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    gonna try to look at climate and every
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    part of the plans I'm working on so that
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    means I've got a lot of places where
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    this comes in
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    because that's how I see it it's not
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    going to be a one and done that's all
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    confined it's that it hits in different
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    places so for example yeah I know I
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    can't it did actually the ends funny but
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    I can't listen to it
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    here's the problem Isle de Jean Charles
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    has been a quote-unquote sinking for
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    decades because of the levees in
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    Louisiana the levee stopped the silt and
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    this is you can find all kinds of
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    articles here from the from the New
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    Orleans lens the people of Isle de Jean
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    Charles aren't the country's first
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    climate refugees now and then there's
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    all this oil and gas drilling its
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    erosion it's not because the sea level
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    is rising actually we have one of our
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    producers who sent me a long document I
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    was right fabulous fabulous and he goes
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    on and says the item wasn't even known
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    until 1935 even though it apparently
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    existed before but they finally started
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    mapping it and it turns out the thing
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    hasn't been even eroding that much the
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    problem one Road going in and out that's
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    very poorly supported they don't want to
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    keep this road going and then there's a
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    bunch of oil and gas it that they don't
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    drill there yeah so they're rousting the
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    people this woman hasn't lived there for
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    most of her life but of cultural racial
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    thing is bullcrap now the island is
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    bullcrap to them climate immigrants is
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    bullcrap and and elizabeth warren is
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    bullcrap let's move on to mayor Pete so
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    mayor Pete if we were in the meeting or
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    ended off by the way oh no man if you
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    and I were in the meeting what do we
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    want to do to have a little fun with
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    mayor Pete now the gay guy asked him a
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    question
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    ya know have a gay guy ask him a
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    question about children this is even
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    funnier yeah and let's make sure the gay
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    guy is in
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    solar power bill Jordan Troy New York
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    he's the founder and CEO of Jordan
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    Energy they do solar panel installation
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    as well as the co-founder and board
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    president of the let's share the Sun
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    Foundation which installs solar panels
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    in poor parts of the world bill thank
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    you for being a part of this what's your
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    question how do you and chasten think
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    about leaving the world a better place
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    particularly around the climate change
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    issues discussed here today to the next
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    generation and any children you may
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    choose to raise well we're hoping to
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    have kids one day and they want to know
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    that our kids can thrive when I got into
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    this campaign I talked a lot about the
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    idea of generational justice looked at
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    me funny because I don't think it's
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    something that's been talked generation
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    to me write that one down generational
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    justice that goes right to the top of
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    the list so does it good walked about
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    much but each of us has an obligation to
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    do our part not only to be just to those
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    around us but to those who will come in
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    the future and I think you know when
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    we're on the campaign trail now and more
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    and more the questions I get from kids
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    are about climate they're almost always
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    either about gun violence or about
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    climate now remember do i remember
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    children have been abused have been
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    abused by abusing other children to make
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    them all afraid and just abused the crap
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    out of them and mayor Pete seems to be
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    good with this these are personal
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    questions there whether they're going to
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    be able to those kids again it's why I
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    think this isn't just saving the planet
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    this is saving the future for specific
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    people who are alive right now
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    I also frankly think of it a little more
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    selfishly because when we're talking
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    about whether we hit this target of 2050
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    decarbonizing our economy you know Lord
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    willing I plan to be here I would now
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    wait for some stats be in my 60s by the
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    time we know whether we have succeeded
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    and can look back at 2020 and be proud
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    of what we did to begin getting on the
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    right track or realize that we're the
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    ones who blew it
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    these are the years you know we talked
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    about 2030 as a deadline but in many
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    ways 2020 is the deadline because if
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    we're not underway by the time the new
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    president takes office we really have
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    lost our last shot it's why there is so
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    much
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    sliding on this election we have to be
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    underway by 2020 otherwise just forget
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    about it so vote for me because we have
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    to get it done by this election so vote
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    for me talk about twenty thirty is a
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    deadline
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    but in many ways twenty twenty is the
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    deadline because if we're not underway
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    by the time the new president takes
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    office we really have lost our last
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    choice why there is so much riding on
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    this last wait wait and for me and
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    everybody I know for the children that
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    we hope to have for the people who will
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    be alive at the turn of the century when
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    if we don't change what we're doing we
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    could lose half the world's oxygen
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    because what's going on the world's
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    oxygen Oh ladies and gentlemen please
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    put your oxygen masks on if they should
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    drop from the ceiling of your house
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    because we're losing the world's oxygen
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    and remember this is for the children
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    that's why there is so much riding on
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    this election and for me and everybody I
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    know for the children that we hope to
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    have for the people who will be alive at
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    the turn of the century when if we don't
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    change what we're doing we could lose
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    half the world's oxygen because of
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    what's going on in the oceans that is
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    unthinkable we owe it we just cannot
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    look we're the eyes of a child right now
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    with a straight face and say we're doing
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    right by them we owe it to them to get
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    this done before it's too late
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    look in the eyes of our children we
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    can't do that let me we just need to go
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    through briefly when now there's a
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    scripts there's a script to abusing
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    children and getting this meme this
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    message going and in this case it's
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    being abused and children are being
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    abused for climate change a group of
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    producers of the No Agenda show put a
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    couple things together to help me
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    explain this exactly how this is not
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    only works was extremely effective so
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    first of all if you want to put together
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    some campaign with kids
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    you've got to start by showing the kids
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    bling playing grown-ups have them
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    interact with adults making the adults
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    obviously sounds stupid and unaware of
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    what's going on this is an example okay
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    so that that's how you'd start off a
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    campaign then you have the kids you got
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    to have them pitch the issue to the
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    viewer and the audience address them in
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    a little bit of a patronizing way
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    showing them the ignorant stupid but
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    you're not doing enough point out the
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    deadline like twelve years or twenty
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    twenty as mayor Pete said and then you
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    have to have some authority like
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    scientists and you know say that they
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    say it's has to happen we polled kids
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    across Canada and asked them to rank
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    election issues in order of priority
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    seventy-four percent rates climate
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    changes that issue most important to
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    them climate scientists are now saying
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    the only of 12 years left act if you
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    want to avoid catastrophic damage voting
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    age from eighteen to a so then you've
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    got it you got to wrap it up you've got
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    to have a catchy hook so you know like
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    let the kids vote with these clips are
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    from something we played on the last
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    show let the kids vote what it's music
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    kind of like a we are the world vibe if
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    you can get the kids to sing on in a
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    choir a melody that sticks in your head
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    like cheap chewing gum
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    [Music]
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    you like the song if we were
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    and this song has been in my head since
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    the last show
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    and I can't
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    these kids are not here to care right so
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    there you have it that let the kids vote
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    campaign done expertly with all the
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    elements you need yeah so let's see this
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    in real time with the No Agenda show
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    [Music]
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    [Music]
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    excuse me guys do you have a moment to
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    talk about exploding and mcgill Julien's
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    ma'am
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    I think we're too late for that one
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    there's a piece on your cheek that looks
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    like Rachel Maddow
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    we pulled 33 kids because getting our
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    nation in the morning and awesome to
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    rank issues that affect them in order
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    for priority they said stuff like douche
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    bags camping on fortnight friends
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    cheating in Pokemon and parents hassling
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    them about screen time but when we gave
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    them a list they all chose exploding
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    amygdalas as a number one concern
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    because it sounds funny
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    scientists say that we only have 12
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    years of schooling as children before we
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    irreversibly turn into adults that's why
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    we've been exploited now for cheap loss
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    and to get donations for the no agenda
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    shirt
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    Felix why are we doing this again my
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    dead bride man gave you a daddy beer oh
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    I guess that's how the rest of the world
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    works here comes a train that gets stuck
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    in everybody's head hit it turn ed
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    [Music]
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    you say
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    stop
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    [Music]
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    Oh
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    your breath
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    [Music]
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    today
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    the Borak dog /
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    [Music]
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    I'm crying right now being exploited
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    special thanks to Sir Felix Wilson and
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    Jenny Pham that's Felix's friend mix
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    Wang Jenny's dad as sir Ned Jeffery who
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    wrote and recorded the song co-wrote the
  • 16:46
    lyrics and Squire Arlo Jeffrey there at
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    the end but that's how it works and
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    you're all now going to donate to the
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    show let's hope so
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    mm-hmm now you have more on the climate
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    thing yeah I have some clips I have one
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    other thing there was an interstitial
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    that ran of a CNN weatherman by the way
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    the weatherman and they called him the
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    weatherman not even meteorologists just
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    weatherman weatherman weatherman he got
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    to ask questions everybody he's like
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    okay and here's a scene in weatherman
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    Chad Meyers a little interstitial saying
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    I used to be a climate skeptic but then
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    it changed I was once a sighing or a
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    change skeptic I get it
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    years ago I didn't think the world's
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    climate would actually change due to
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    global warming gases I was convinced
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    that at some point the earth would reach
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    a greenhouse gas equilibrium where the
  • 17:43
    ocean and plant life would absorb the
  • 17:45
    excess co2 that humans produced this
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    would have certified the ocean killed
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    the coral reefs and destroyed the ocean
  • 17:51
    food chain but leave the climate intact
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    then in 2013 co2 concentrations in the
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    atmosphere past 450 per million that's
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    when I knew the oceans and the plants
  • 18:01
    couldn't keep up the demand we were
  • 18:04
    placing on them there would be no
  • 18:05
    equilibrium and the climate would change
  • 18:07
    first so I went out to learn as much as
  • 18:09
    I could about these climate changing
  • 18:11
    guests the science the facts and the
  • 18:13
    myths when you sort the facts from the
  • 18:15
    fiction you may see things as I do now
  • 18:18
    so this fool is using the 400 parts per
  • 18:22
    million as the tipping point which we've
  • 18:24
    passed
  • 18:28
    well 360 was the tipping point right
  • 18:31
    what no wasn't 350 I think was climate
  • 18:34
    change 350 as that was 360 now 350 360
  • 18:38
    or 350.org but okay sorry
  • 18:41
    okay one of the two 316 everywhere were
  • 18:43
    way best at temperatures haven't gone up
  • 18:47
    in response that much it was 350 meters
  • 18:50
    record I checked it
  • 18:51
    so I thirst something's fishy about this
  • 18:54
    whole thing because this was going on do
  • 19:01
    I think is something fishy Captain
  • 19:03
    Obvious yes really
  • 19:05
    okay so I noticed it was good there was
  • 19:09
    a bunch of stuff going on all over the
  • 19:10
    world there all these climate things but
  • 19:12
    there was a beef going on in Australia I
  • 19:14
    don't know when this was but it seemed
  • 19:16
    to be recent and it's with Alan Jones an
  • 19:18
    old fart that's of one of the presenters
  • 19:21
    on ABC Australian Broadcasting Company
  • 19:25
    and he got into a beef because they did
  • 19:27
    a climate thing the night before his
  • 19:29
    show and they condemned him and all the
  • 19:31
    rest it's really worth following because
  • 19:34
    this guy is pretty funny and this is
  • 19:36
    Alan Jones versus the professor this is
  • 19:38
    the set at at part 1 I was accused of
  • 19:40
    downplaying the human impact on climate
  • 19:43
    change of course now attempt was made to
  • 19:46
    contact me so that I could offer a
  • 19:48
    defense that's the ABC but one of the
  • 19:50
    guests was Professor David karoli
  • 19:53
    referred to as an Australian atmospheric
  • 19:56
    scientist based at the CSIRO and the
  • 19:59
    questioner asked professor karoli the
  • 20:01
    following I saw the radio commentator
  • 20:04
    Ellen Jones on TV recently and he said
  • 20:06
    that point oh four percent of the
  • 20:07
    world's atmosphere is co2 the question
  • 20:11
    went on and three percent of that is
  • 20:13
    created by human beings around the world
  • 20:16
    and of that 1.3 percent is created by
  • 20:20
    Australians the questioner said is that
  • 20:22
    correct and if so is human activity
  • 20:26
    really making a difference a pretty good
  • 20:29
    question professor Crawley replied not
  • 20:32
    everything Jones says is factually
  • 20:35
    correct no wonder he stumbled in seeking
  • 20:39
    to repudiate me he were not to say that
  • 20:42
    while it is correct that 0.04 percent of
  • 20:46
    the world's atmosphere is carbon dioxide
  • 20:48
    quota Jones's statistics around humans I
  • 20:53
    think it means human beings causing
  • 20:55
    climate change and the role Australians
  • 20:57
    specifically play is completely false
  • 21:00
    yeah I think I've seen this this bit was
  • 21:03
    very interesting I'm glad you pulled
  • 21:06
    clips from it yeah I pulled the whole
  • 21:08
    thing apart so this was because the
  • 21:11
    night before there's a bunch of climate
  • 21:12
    people on it this is like the PBS news
  • 21:17
    hour you know they're obliged to show
  • 21:20
    the line as you remember we had that
  • 21:22
    clip with Al Gore and Judy and Judy's
  • 21:25
    made some allusion to somebody doubting
  • 21:28
    these numbers with stats and Harrison or
  • 21:31
    Gore jumped all over her for even
  • 21:35
    suggesting such a thing and then seems
  • 21:37
    she relented anyway so this goes on and
  • 21:41
    then you heard the numbers which 0.0 0.0
  • 21:43
    4% is 400 parts per million right that
  • 21:47
    part right so let's listen to Alan Jones
  • 21:50
    let the S off first the professor part
  • 21:53
    two
  • 21:53
    he said point out four of a percent of
  • 21:55
    the world's carbon dioxide was correct
  • 21:57
    the other numbers that the question
  • 22:00
    referred to were three percent of that
  • 22:03
    is what human beings create around the
  • 22:06
    world and 1.3 percent of that 3 percent
  • 22:09
    is created by Australians Karolyi said
  • 22:12
    though all his other numbers they must
  • 22:15
    have in those last two numbers are wrong
  • 22:17
    well on the 25th of May 2011
  • 22:20
    I interviewed professor karoli on radio
  • 22:23
    let me just play you an extract very
  • 22:25
    brief of that interview it was very
  • 22:28
    courteous and very friendly just listen
  • 22:32
    to this mr. Crowley good morning good
  • 22:34
    morning Ellen how are you I'm very well
  • 22:36
    thank you can I just begin firstly with
  • 22:38
    a little bit of maths so that we can
  • 22:40
    agree on a number of things would you
  • 22:41
    say it's unarguable that the level of
  • 22:44
    carbon dioxide in the air
  • 22:46
    less than 0.04 of a percent if I'm at
  • 22:50
    that point because nitrogen we know is
  • 22:51
    about 78 oxygen about 21 and then
  • 22:53
    there's argon on things like that but
  • 22:55
    co2 in the air about point O four of a
  • 22:58
    percent okay do you agree that the UN
  • 23:01
    IPCC Intergovernmental Panel on Climate
  • 23:03
    Change says that of the Earth's annual
  • 23:06
    production of carbon dioxide this point
  • 23:08
    O four of a percent that's in the air
  • 23:10
    nature produces 97 percent and human
  • 23:13
    beings 3 percent of the annual fluxes
  • 23:15
    that go in and the annual fluxes that
  • 23:17
    come out yes that's it so I just wanna
  • 23:20
    get this clear maths because you're the
  • 23:21
    scientist
  • 23:22
    I'm not point o4 of a percent of the air
  • 23:24
    is carbon dioxide and of that point o4
  • 23:27
    of a percent 97 percent produced by
  • 23:29
    nature and human beings 3 percent now of
  • 23:31
    that 3 percent all Australian human
  • 23:33
    activity transport industry agriculture
  • 23:36
    mining power generation that stuff we
  • 23:38
    produce 1.3 to 1.5 percent the same guy
  • 23:50
    the night before this that he wasn't
  • 23:52
    right so so this is and by the way
  • 23:55
    people should pay attention to those
  • 23:56
    numbers because we kind of we kind of
  • 23:59
    lost track of the fact that that 0.04
  • 24:02
    percent of the carbon dioxide 97 percent
  • 24:06
    of it is produced by Nature we got
  • 24:08
    nothing to do it and damnation or just
  • 24:10
    the tip of a tip so anyway so this isn't
  • 24:13
    some Jones bitching and moaning and
  • 24:15
    making some generalities this is a part
  • 24:18
    3 which says free I left the tea on
  • 24:20
    Allen you're absolutely right
  • 24:22
    that ends that let's just put that aside
  • 24:24
    I stand by what I've said for years we
  • 24:28
    are talking about a global warming hoax
  • 24:30
    demonizing carbon dioxide demonizing
  • 24:32
    coal-fired power which has led us into
  • 24:34
    this economic suicide mess business
  • 24:37
    can't afford the energy bill people at
  • 24:39
    home can't afford the electricity bill
  • 24:40
    why well we export our coal so that
  • 24:44
    others can have cheap electricity but
  • 24:46
    we're not prepared to use it so that we
  • 24:48
    can have cheap electricity because
  • 24:49
    carbon dioxide is destroying the planet
  • 24:52
    that's what karoli and the mob on QA
  • 24:54
    would have you believe
  • 24:57
    now which brings us to the point if if
  • 25:01
    people are coal producers like Australia
  • 25:04
    and they're exporting the code they
  • 25:05
    should just stop producing coal hundred
  • 25:08
    percent all did you stop if it's that
  • 25:11
    bad but okay now Jones did continue
  • 25:14
    because this was really part of a show
  • 25:17
    on something else which was he brought
  • 25:18
    another guy in to talk about sea levels
  • 25:21
    who's one of the world's experts on sea
  • 25:24
    level rises which kind of plays into
  • 25:26
    your clip about the little island there
  • 25:28
    in the middle of the swamp mm-hmm but in
  • 25:32
    that this is gonna where I ended with
  • 25:34
    this but this is I just would throw this
  • 25:36
    out there because I'm looking at and
  • 25:37
    there's the big mud flats out there
  • 25:39
    which is not assist by any means
  • 25:41
    since mud um boss Hilton becomes more if
  • 25:45
    you get sweat so let's just listen to
  • 25:48
    this then I'm done with this segment
  • 25:49
    well here in this country in Australia
  • 25:52
    children are being taught at schools
  • 25:53
    that Bondi Beach could finish up at
  • 25:55
    Bathurst you've been tracking sea levels
  • 25:58
    at various parts of the globe have you
  • 26:00
    not for fifty years
  • 26:02
    sea levels rising worldwide which the
  • 26:06
    climate change apologists keep telling
  • 26:09
    us is happening no not in the northern
  • 26:13
    hemisphere and especially in the
  • 26:16
    European air we can prove and that
  • 26:21
    absolute absolute sea level is not
  • 26:24
    rising more than about one millimeter
  • 26:27
    per year if we go to the except Oriole
  • 26:30
    region and now we come closer to
  • 26:33
    Australia it's not even writing at all
  • 26:37
    amazing it has been stable for the last
  • 26:41
    50 to 70 years and that is sorry I heard
  • 26:50
    a walkie-talkie somewhere yeah yeah well
  • 26:53
    I will take us out on an up note on the
  • 26:56
    laughs heaven forbid we present these
  • 27:00
    facts yes we have hurricane durian which
  • 27:04
    made some very interesting moves but of
  • 27:08
    course
  • 27:09
    devastated most of the Bahamas it's
  • 27:12
    pretty bad and we really don't have any
  • 27:15
    I'm just have we just have that
  • 27:16
    helicopter footage which it really never
  • 27:18
    does it justice you know you think wow
  • 27:20
    that's a lot but you have to get down to
  • 27:22
    the ground to see how bad it really is
  • 27:23
    but this thing was supposed to come
  • 27:25
    careening into Miami then it was going
  • 27:28
    to be further north then it looked like
  • 27:29
    it was going to be the power the nuclear
  • 27:32
    power plant st. Lucie it was headed
  • 27:35
    straight for it and then did it bops up
  • 27:38
    here's a Emory college professor Tiffany
  • 27:43
    unique interesting Tiffany spelled tiph
  • 27:46
    a nie wow that's a cool I mean my
  • 27:52
    sister's name is Tiffany but she has the
  • 27:54
    traditional TI fFANY this is that's a
  • 27:57
    new one for me I think the best one is t
  • 28:00
    iff a and I with a hard I suggested to
  • 28:08
    Tiffany here she is talking about the
  • 28:11
    hurricane hurricane Dorian I'm professor
  • 28:15
    unique you have said that the Caribbean
  • 28:19
    is ground zero for the climate crisis
  • 28:22
    and I want to say in the nonstop
  • 28:24
    coverage in the networks and of course
  • 28:26
    it should be non-stop coverage of what's
  • 28:28
    happening most of this hurricane there
  • 28:31
    is almost no mention of climate change
  • 28:35
    yes I don't know what she was watching
  • 28:37
    good morning Amy come on Juan thank you
  • 28:39
    for having me again the truth is that
  • 28:42
    these storms that are hitting the
  • 28:44
    Caribbean with this intense magnitude or
  • 28:48
    historic unprecedented and these storms
  • 28:51
    are man-made storms I love this concept
  • 28:58
    man-made storms but yeah that this falls
  • 29:03
    into the the conspiracy theory this a
  • 29:05
    man-made storm so I could go out and
  • 29:07
    wipeout Jeffrey Epstein's island yeah
  • 29:10
    that was one of my favorites this is guy
  • 29:13
    on YouTube Mike who does all the weather
  • 29:16
    charts yeah it's like three million
  • 29:18
    followers insane this guy's been doing
  • 29:20
    it for years
  • 29:22
    and I've watched in many times but I
  • 29:24
    usually give up cuz most of the time
  • 29:26
    it's like hold on that's the wrong chart
  • 29:28
    hold him oh why didn't it work refresh
  • 29:30
    you know it just takes forever to get
  • 29:31
    the charts working but he had this radar
  • 29:35
    image which was you know a recorded
  • 29:38
    image of about 3540 seconds I put it in
  • 29:41
    the show notes and you see Dorian
  • 29:43
    swirling and he has a whole bunch of
  • 29:45
    comments about the winds at the top and
  • 29:47
    different altitudes which I won't get
  • 29:49
    into but then you can see clear as day
  • 29:51
    shooting across the southern part of the
  • 29:54
    Florida peninsula a black band that
  • 29:57
    shoots right into the the the bottoms
  • 30:02
    the bottom part of Dorian and kind of
  • 30:04
    starts to whip it yeah almost like if
  • 30:08
    you had a top and the you know you you
  • 30:09
    wound a rope around it and pulled it so
  • 30:12
    this was kind of whipping it as if it
  • 30:14
    was to steer it in some direction I
  • 30:17
    don't know what it is he doesn't know
  • 30:18
    what it is but you can really it's very
  • 30:20
    clear and I don't I don't think he's a
  • 30:22
    faker it's very clear that something was
  • 30:25
    pushing this thing so in a way I don't
  • 30:28
    know if it was man-made it could be I
  • 30:30
    mean we've been under the weather
  • 30:33
    modification and weather as a weapon is
  • 30:35
    nothing new and then to see this thing
  • 30:37
    pop straight towards st. Lucie nuclear
  • 30:40
    power plant was interesting and that was
  • 30:43
    the path Trump thought it was gonna take
  • 30:44
    and even drew a little little extra on
  • 30:47
    his map but then it just careens and
  • 30:49
    goes up the coast it was interesting but
  • 30:51
    you know so when she says man-made I
  • 30:54
    believe her only not in the context
  • 30:56
    she's saying it when I was growing up in
  • 30:58
    the Caribbean we would get really
  • 31:00
    dangerous storms once a decade and now
  • 31:04
    we're beginning to see them regularly
  • 31:05
    the Virgin Islands was hit by two
  • 31:08
    category 5 storms only two years ago
  • 31:11
    while President Trump indeed was our
  • 31:14
    president category 5 storms Burma and
  • 31:18
    Maria in 2017 and to see now that the
  • 31:23
    courage is saying things
  • 31:26
    Dorian is going to hit the United States
  • 31:29
    later today is incredibly insulting and
  • 31:33
    ongoing and insult to the people of the
  • 31:35
    United States Virgin Islands because
  • 31:37
    Dorian hit the United States Virgin
  • 31:39
    Islands on August 28th when it hit st.
  • 31:42
    Thomas and st. John it's as dr. Campbell
  • 31:47
    said it is quite ironic and standing
  • 31:50
    that the people who are most vulnerable
  • 31:53
    to these man-made storms are the ones
  • 31:56
    who in all cases are not the
  • 31:59
    contributing factors to the carbon
  • 32:02
    emissions are causing these storms
  • 32:04
    these storms are being caused in huge
  • 32:06
    part because of capital us North
  • 32:11
    American Capital Islands and the Bahamas
  • 32:15
    are the ones that are most vulnerable to
  • 32:16
    these things orange man bad just capital
  • 32:20
    its capital man-made
  • 32:25
    though the the big term now amongst the
  • 32:27
    climate denier climate change deniers
  • 32:29
    who of course also deny the Holocaust
  • 32:32
    I'm still puzzled by that clip this was
  • 32:35
    Amy Goodman yeah
  • 32:38
    on democracy now if I'm not mistaken
  • 32:40
    right yes correct
  • 32:43
    and she has this nutcase come on and
  • 32:46
    talk about this yeah and she doesn't say
  • 32:48
    anything like what words you get this
  • 32:50
    information what makes you think so
  • 32:51
    why would she do this it's on brand it's
  • 32:54
    on message mess it up
  • 32:58
    it's just beyond me well you watch this
  • 33:02
    crap is the problem yes I'm sorry go on
  • 33:06
    well I was just going to say the the
  • 33:09
    term now amongst the climate change
  • 33:13
    deniers is thermodynamic equilibrium and
  • 33:18
    theirs might never use that term I think
  • 33:20
    I would be in that category
  • 33:23
    well you're behind the times my friend
  • 33:25
    there's been several scientific papers
  • 33:28
    showing that the earth at this very
  • 33:30
    moment is incomplete thermodynamic
  • 33:33
    equilibrium meaning we have the right
  • 33:35
    temperature for what we need
  • 33:37
    don't ask me how they arrived at this is
  • 33:40
    this come from
  • 33:41
    yes it's got a wiki page and everything
  • 33:48
    you know it's real only then it must be
  • 33:50
    real yeah I'll read it too thermodynamic
  • 33:52
    equilibrium is an axiomatic concept
  • 33:55
    concept of thermodynamics sounds legit
  • 33:58
    concept it's a key word it's an internal
  • 34:04
    state of a single thermodynamic system
  • 34:07
    or a relation between several
  • 34:09
    thermodynamic systems connected by more
  • 34:11
    or less permeable or impermeable walls
  • 34:15
    there you go never so but that's I'm
  • 34:17
    just telling what the term is
  • 34:20
    so yeah well so you don't have to go
  • 34:22
    looking at it yourself sounds like a
  • 34:24
    bogus term if ever but when I said just
  • 34:27
    to finish it when I saw those that ten
  • 34:29
    hours when they were like the high
  • 34:31
    priests of the the Church of climate now
  • 34:35
    it's the green religion
  • 34:38
    and it's trend people are really there I
  • 34:40
    don't think they're acting they're
  • 34:42
    really all in well I think I don't think
  • 34:45
    they're acting either all right there
  • 34:48
    are it does happen at some levels where
  • 34:50
    some people do act but I don't think any
  • 34:52
    of these people these weeks sister
  • 34:55
    candidates for the Democratic Party
  • 34:57
    nomination I think that all of them are
  • 35:00
    all in with the possible exception to
  • 35:01
    Biden and then bite blew his eyeball out
  • 35:06
    you know that's it and I think that was
  • 35:09
    real that is that he got a bloodshot eye
  • 35:11
    and it's the symptom of all kinds of
  • 35:13
    other stuff and medication can cause it
  • 35:15
    well I was somebody suggested my
  • 35:18
    suggestion to cuz get his energy up a
  • 35:21
    little bit they get some some speed
  • 35:23
    balls a couple of you know shots of this
  • 35:25
    and that and he got his blood pressure
  • 35:27
    blew on eyeball oh it would be guys all
  • 35:32
    jacked up on something Bennie's he's
  • 35:35
    jacked up and talking like a madman he's
  • 35:37
    talking about climate change and going
  • 35:38
    on and on boom his eyeball blows out
  • 35:41
    this can happen yeah it's not very
  • 35:45
    healthy though and it's not being
  • 35:46
    addressed so much blood pressure that it
  • 35:49
    blows out your eyeballs hold it buddy
  • 35:52
    doesn't never spring on it well where
  • 35:54
    were we
  • 35:55
    it's unbelievable it's not healthy at
  • 35:57
    all porno then again they could have
  • 36:00
    just got drugged him to get the eyeball
  • 36:02
    to blow up to make it make you know I
  • 36:04
    think he's this guy's not gonna be the
  • 36:06
    nominee what it is what did you think of
  • 36:09
    his performance overall I didn't watch
  • 36:11
    it
  • 36:12
    oh those day i ball blow up yeah he was
  • 36:17
    not good he wasn't it just not good he's
  • 36:18
    not good
  • 36:21
    he doesn't want the nomination he's just
  • 36:25
    doing it as kind of like a favor to his
  • 36:28
    one son who does horrible that's a
  • 36:31
    horrible way to go out you know you
  • 36:33
    could have been you know the man who
  • 36:35
    stood by Barack Obama side now he's the
  • 36:37
    guy with the blow not eyeball I'm sad
  • 36:43
    for Joe don't like this at all he's not
  • 36:47
    and he's doing like he doesn't even he's
  • 36:49
    not even camped
  • 36:50
    he's unkempt you know he's all these
  • 36:54
    they have fake hair and I just bawled
  • 36:56
    you know if he had any thing going on
  • 36:58
    he'd be wearing a wig and he would have
  • 37:00
    started wearing it years ago when he had
  • 37:02
    his plugs now the cool thing is that he
  • 37:05
    has the same sickness that Trump has is
  • 37:07
    you know saying things wrong getting
  • 37:10
    them wrong repeating things that were
  • 37:11
    wrong saying something opposite of what
  • 37:13
    he said yesterday it's kind of a thing
  • 37:15
    and maybe that's just age I don't think
  • 37:19
    so I think it's a style mixed with age
  • 37:22
    but you have to remember it's my style
  • 37:28
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    so Biden if you recall did run for
  • 37:33
    president I think it was a couple times
  • 37:36
    he way back before Barack and right back
  • 37:39
    in the 80s and I'm leaving right right
  • 37:40
    and he was just a foolish it guy back
  • 37:43
    then yeah before it was old he's kind of
  • 37:45
    yeah you're right it's kind of back
  • 37:47
    where he was now hasn't really changed
  • 37:48
    that much yeah he was a plagiarist and
  • 37:51
    he also said he got some degrees he
  • 37:53
    never got he was actually humiliated out
  • 37:55
    of one of the races for lying about his
  • 37:57
    college education oh I remember that
  • 37:58
    yeah and he should be cancelled for that
  • 38:03
    cancel him you know they only did
  • 38:07
    they're letting him do his own thing I
  • 38:09
    think it I think everyone knows he's not
  • 38:11
    gonna make it and we all know who the
  • 38:12
    nominee is gonna be in a starting to
  • 38:14
    appear I think it's starting to very
  • 38:15
    slowly move into the public
  • 38:17
    consciousness Hillary yes day one and
  • 38:21
    I'm not I haven't changed my my stick on
  • 38:24
    this list of the dominie sand who's
  • 38:28
    running and who's gonna win I keep
  • 38:29
    Hillary on there whether she's on the
  • 38:31
    podium or not
  • 38:33
    it would you know timing is everything
  • 38:35
    and I think Joe if Joe pulls out she
  • 38:38
    swoops in we already removed Gillibrand
  • 38:41
    which is good if you can't have you
  • 38:43
    can't have someone else coming from New
  • 38:44
    York yeah she's the Hillary clone so
  • 38:46
    that would be that's an obvious spot so
  • 38:48
    it does free up some some space but a
  • 38:52
    big a biggie would have to go and now
  • 38:54
    and Joe would be ah be I think Elizabeth
  • 38:56
    Warren a lot being put especially her
  • 38:58
    there's a lot being put on her by the
  • 39:00
    media
  • 39:01
    I think BT and I think you've picked her
  • 39:03
    up as the leader because they don't know
  • 39:06
    camel is a a loser she can't pull it off
  • 39:08
    and she's not gonna and she's giggling
  • 39:11
    giggles and giggles and she's got a
  • 39:13
    super-sized know what she's talking
  • 39:15
    about about anything so she's done and
  • 39:18
    yeah I mean somebody may still think she
  • 39:20
    can win I mean including Scott Adams
  • 39:22
    who's predicted her some time ago nice
  • 39:24
    man with it well he's pretty head at
  • 39:25
    this Janet who picked at her picked her
  • 39:27
    for some time ago yeah but she's guys
  • 39:29
    got no prayer Warren is the new chosen
  • 39:32
    one by the media and but if Hillary
  • 39:35
    comes in Oh goodbye ladies just blow
  • 39:37
    warning bylaws yeah but Hillary is still
  • 39:41
    not well you know there's pictures of
  • 39:42
    her out and about and you can see she's
  • 39:44
    retaining water her ankles are
  • 39:46
    incredibly swollen now then I can't go
  • 39:48
    she's swollen ankles it that happens
  • 39:50
    when yet yeah anyway I was gonna follow
  • 39:58
    up on the shootings we had in Texas
  • 39:59
    recently and I do that for a number of
  • 40:01
    reasons mainly on my birthday my buddy
  • 40:04
    in Holland called me from live on his
  • 40:07
    morning radio show and yeah so we're
  • 40:09
    were yucking it up and then he's like
  • 40:12
    well I got asked you the question
  • 40:13
    everyone wants to know you know what's
  • 40:14
    going on with all the guns and killing
  • 40:16
    in America I'm like damn it's my
  • 40:17
    birthday you want me to answer this
  • 40:18
    question so it's really worldwide and I
  • 40:23
    wanted to give a response to that and
  • 40:25
    then follow up with what's going on here
  • 40:27
    after the what we had al Paso we had
  • 40:30
    Odessa so a lot of shooting going on
  • 40:33
    here first part in a Matt and I've lived
  • 40:37
    in many countries and the only country
  • 40:39
    I've ever lived in where the citizens
  • 40:41
    had a right and also owned guns we have
  • 40:43
    hundreds of millions of them in United
  • 40:45
    dates is the US and I've lived in the
  • 40:47
    Netherlands I've lived in Belgium I've
  • 40:49
    lived in the UK and I'm gonna make it
  • 40:53
    very simple for people who were who were
  • 40:55
    outside of the u.s. our country was
  • 40:58
    founded on kicking the government's
  • 41:01
    asked with guns
  • 41:02
    the Brits is it not look we want to go
  • 41:04
    here leave us alone they didn't leave us
  • 41:06
    alone so we fought them and we shot at
  • 41:08
    it and they shot back and we want so
  • 41:10
    it's founded on the concept of having
  • 41:13
    guns is a good idea if you if the
  • 41:15
    government's a problem now we have the
  • 41:17
    Constitution and in there it says very
  • 41:19
    very specifically that the people if
  • 41:22
    they're tired of this shit then they can
  • 41:24
    form a new government well how do you do
  • 41:27
    that well you can't do it without guns
  • 41:30
    because the in every country I've been
  • 41:33
    in the the grasp that the closing in the
  • 41:38
    Luton the notices the letters the forms
  • 41:41
    they keep pushing you down and down and
  • 41:43
    down and in the United States we have
  • 41:46
    one ultimate deal which is we have guns
  • 41:50
    so if you really push us too far you
  • 41:53
    politician will not be able to walk
  • 41:56
    anywhere because we're everywhere and
  • 41:59
    that's the only reason we really have
  • 42:01
    the guns I'm not gonna bullcrap anyone
  • 42:04
    about it it's for to be ready to be
  • 42:07
    against our own government does that
  • 42:09
    come with risk yes does that come with
  • 42:11
    crap yeah absolutely
  • 42:13
    it's not the biggest pool of people
  • 42:14
    dying but it's really stepped up it's no
  • 42:17
    good
  • 42:19
    that's just so if anyone said mine they
  • 42:21
    have a guns yes to the Second Amendment
  • 42:23
    fine I'm telling you the basics of what
  • 42:25
    we're about
  • 42:26
    would you agree John I would not
  • 42:30
    disagree okay that's your standard
  • 42:33
    bullcrap answer I appreciate it thank
  • 42:37
    you for the many who emailed although we
  • 42:40
    already know I wanted to know if the
  • 42:42
    ak-47 was sold in the United States as a
  • 42:45
    semi-automatic yes indeed and it is
  • 42:47
    called the ak-47 there's a lot of
  • 42:50
    copycats and we may not have mentioned
  • 42:53
    it but we're very aware and people
  • 42:54
    should be aware as well that you can own
  • 42:58
    a machine gun a fully automatic weapon
  • 43:01
    in the United States but most don't
  • 43:04
    because it's very expensive in the class
  • 43:07
    three permit you have to get through the
  • 43:08
    National you know as a tax stamp through
  • 43:12
    the end you know this the NFA National
  • 43:13
    Firearms Act and you know it can cost
  • 43:16
    ten thousand dollars or more just to go
  • 43:18
    through this process so it's friction
  • 43:20
    that's why we don't have them that's
  • 43:22
    probably a good thing although I don't
  • 43:25
    know I know what difference it really
  • 43:26
    makes but it's not you know yes but you
  • 43:29
    could do Kenny hand you can if you're a
  • 43:32
    criminal or let's say you can create
  • 43:33
    yeah you can you can make of course but
  • 43:38
    I mean these are just fantasy it's you
  • 43:40
    know people send me like reams of text
  • 43:44
    and an email explaining that I'm wrong
  • 43:46
    even though we we know this we've been
  • 43:49
    through this for ten years I appreciate
  • 43:51
    it yes it's legal to have a an automatic
  • 43:54
    weapon you have to go through a lot of
  • 43:56
    Hoops most people don't do it but
  • 43:57
    there's plenty out there and we don't
  • 44:01
    and people that sense you're talking to
  • 44:03
    the overseas audience there is a
  • 44:05
    difference between an automatic rifle
  • 44:08
    rat weapon machine gun and an automatic
  • 44:11
    pistol which everybody owns yeah an
  • 44:15
    automatic pistol is not a machine gun
  • 44:17
    it's just a pistol that cocks itself
  • 44:19
    yeah yeah it's called an automatic but
  • 44:24
    it's semi-automatic so now we have this
  • 44:28
    topic of background checks and
  • 44:34
    let me see I have a clip here that I
  • 44:36
    wanted to play this is yeah this is
  • 44:40
    governor Abbott of Texas with some
  • 44:42
    information that I think it's been
  • 44:44
    underutilized by the by the m5m but it's
  • 44:47
    it's good governor Greg Abbott said
  • 44:50
    Monday that's a suspected gunman who
  • 44:51
    killed at least seven people and injured
  • 44:54
    22 others in a shooting over the weekend
  • 44:56
    had failed a gun background check so he
  • 44:59
    had failed a background check at a store
  • 45:02
    which is how it's supposed to work
  • 45:04
    but he he had received a weapon from a
  • 45:09
    friend and this is what they mean by
  • 45:11
    comprehensive background checks but of
  • 45:15
    course if is a private sale now you'd be
  • 45:20
    the only way you can really enforce
  • 45:24
    background checks on private sales is to
  • 45:27
    have a guaranteed registration of every
  • 45:30
    weapon and having lists of people lists
  • 45:34
    is not a very loved idea certainly not
  • 45:37
    lists of people who have guns so that's
  • 45:40
    where the problem is and obviously if
  • 45:43
    this guy cuz you know there's all kinds
  • 45:45
    of reports that he was shooting at
  • 45:46
    animals from the roof of his house with
  • 45:48
    a gun that he knew whether he had or not
  • 45:50
    someone should have gone and looked in I
  • 45:52
    looked in on said and checked to see if
  • 45:54
    he ever failed a background check and so
  • 45:56
    none of this is done so it's a lot of
  • 45:58
    lip service and we certainly could do a
  • 46:00
    lot better
  • 46:01
    sadly the Washington Post reports today
  • 46:06
    and they only quote sources sources
  • 46:11
    familiar with it that Harper
  • 46:15
    Health Advanced Research Project agency
  • 46:18
    is working with of course the president
  • 46:22
    the the the White House the complete
  • 46:24
    administration in and I'm reading the
  • 46:27
    the the wording now in considering a
  • 46:31
    proposal that would use Google Amazon
  • 46:33
    and Apple to collect data on users who
  • 46:37
    exhibit characteristics of mental
  • 46:39
    illness that could leave to violent
  • 46:40
    behavior
  • 46:43
    in other words a form of social credit
  • 46:47
    score
  • 46:51
    and I if obviously if this is true this
  • 46:58
    is this is a huge problem but the
  • 47:02
    Washington Post doesn't tell us who said
  • 47:05
    this to him
  • 47:10
    and so but the post is literally calling
  • 47:13
    it a social credit score such as China
  • 47:18
    and I'm flabbergasted I mean surely this
  • 47:21
    this cannot be a true story if this is
  • 47:24
    you could be making it up - yeah I don't
  • 47:27
    trust the Washington Post anymore well
  • 47:28
    that's the problem I have is you know I
  • 47:30
    don't trust any publication really but
  • 47:32
    you know USA Today is writing about it
  • 47:35
    voted somebody maybe and use some names
  • 47:36
    instead of just nonnamous sources well
  • 47:39
    they're doing something like this
  • 47:40
    the concept was advanced by the Suzanne
  • 47:42
    Wright foundation and first discussed by
  • 47:44
    officials on domestic on the Domestic
  • 47:46
    Policy Council and senior White House
  • 47:48
    staffers in June of 2017 so this is
  • 47:52
    maybe very old old but the idea has
  • 47:54
    gained momentum in the wake of the
  • 47:56
    latest mass shootings that killed 31
  • 47:58
    people in one weekend in El Paso in
  • 48:00
    Dayton Ohio
  • 48:01
    the Susan Wright Foundation
  • 48:03
    reappropriation last weekend proposed
  • 48:05
    that harpa include a safe home of the
  • 48:10
    stopping aberrant fatal events by
  • 48:12
    helping overcome mental extremes project
  • 48:15
    no god they came up with an acronym you
  • 48:17
    dicks safe home officials discuss the
  • 48:22
    proposal at the White House last week
  • 48:23
    said to people familiar with the
  • 48:25
    discussions these people and others
  • 48:27
    spoke on the condition of anonymity
  • 48:29
    because of the sensitivity of the
  • 48:31
    conversations but you read through this
  • 48:33
    whole article and they're talking about
  • 48:36
    having some kind of either an app or
  • 48:39
    using data directly from the big Silicon
  • 48:43
    Valley companies to track you and see if
  • 48:46
    your behavior is apparent aberrant I'm
  • 48:50
    sorry and if you need to be looked into
  • 48:52
    I that would be half the people that use
  • 48:57
    these things I'm a little flabbergasted
  • 49:01
    I mean I think okay maybe let's look at
  • 49:04
    a simple one and I'm not happy about
  • 49:07
    saying this but if we just took one
  • 49:10
    simple example whose on antidepressants
  • 49:13
    here's a question if someone is
  • 49:16
    depressed should they have a gun
  • 49:20
    No okay problem solved there's your list
  • 49:25
    yeah go to the drug companies get a list
  • 49:27
    over there pharmacies yet listen
  • 49:28
    everyone on antidepressants and take the
  • 49:30
    guns away that's a start
  • 49:32
    yeah that would do it well that's well
  • 49:35
    let's check in by the way since we're on
  • 49:38
    the topic let's check in on China's
  • 49:40
    China's social crest credit score update
  • 49:43
    XI yang Yang's company has developed a
  • 49:45
    social credit app it gives China's youth
  • 49:48
    a taste of the benefits one can have
  • 49:50
    with a good social credit rating what is
  • 49:53
    this sargon of akkad speaking this is
  • 49:58
    again where almost what you just talked
  • 50:00
    about which is this is an app that helps
  • 50:03
    you get this is the Google stuff I mean
  • 50:06
    this is just a disgusting story and it
  • 50:08
    is yes exactly who it is our Cod XI yang
  • 50:10
    Yang's company has developed a social
  • 50:12
    credit app it gives China's youth a
  • 50:15
    taste of the benefits one can have with
  • 50:17
    a good social credit rating the Beijing
  • 50:20
    startup collaborated with the Communist
  • 50:22
    Youth League of China to gather personal
  • 50:24
    data from over 70 million young people
  • 50:27
    the app is called eunuch town it gives
  • 50:30
    user a score based on six criteria
  • 50:32
    personal information volunteer works
  • 50:35
    social connections credit history
  • 50:37
    consumption history and track record of
  • 50:40
    honoring contracts the lowest score is
  • 50:43
    350 and the highest is 800 users with
  • 50:47
    high scores above 650 can benefit by
  • 50:50
    getting discounts on online courses or
  • 50:52
    even be parachuted directly into the
  • 50:54
    second round of job interviews but China
  • 50:57
    Youth Credit Management has more
  • 50:59
    ambitious goals when it comes to
  • 51:00
    capitalizing on social credit it wants
  • 51:03
    to build a system to cover all Chinese
  • 51:04
    citizens between the ages of 18 and 45
  • 51:07
    an estimated 460 million people
  • 51:14
    yay that's the future right there well
  • 51:18
    we need to fight that maybe a quick well
  • 51:20
    we didn't fight it with credit scores no
  • 51:23
    but we didn't know and now Credit Karma
  • 51:26
    and other companies of the like are
  • 51:28
    owned by Google's yeah we should know we
  • 51:30
    should know what's going on this is why
  • 51:32
    you don't want to install these apps
  • 51:33
    right I was watching TV last night with
  • 51:35
    the keeper and I said you know John and
  • 51:37
    I predicted this at least 10 years ago
  • 51:40
    cuz every in car insurance company now
  • 51:44
    has an app you get extra savings for
  • 51:46
    good behavior so the axis on your phone
  • 51:49
    you're required to be a part of the
  • 51:52
    discount program to have the app the app
  • 51:54
    tracks your what you did the app will
  • 51:57
    even know if you're holding on to your
  • 51:59
    phone in the car with use of the
  • 52:01
    accelerometer it knows how fast you're
  • 52:03
    going if you brake suddenly it has all
  • 52:06
    this data and oh I'm sorry you're you're
  • 52:08
    zipping some unsafe behavior so your
  • 52:11
    premiums are going up and it's here and
  • 52:14
    there's no one outraged about it well
  • 52:16
    this is great discount discount good
  • 52:19
    best price this price marshall mcluhan
  • 52:25
    I've heard the name throughout my life I
  • 52:27
    never really knew who the guy was
  • 52:29
    he's a can the Navy indid you ever
  • 52:31
    follow anything that he said all I've
  • 52:33
    read everything here is ever written I
  • 52:35
    used him as a basis for a lot of my
  • 52:38
    college papers holy crap what's the best
  • 52:40
    book that he's written that we should
  • 52:41
    read when it pertains sanding media
  • 52:44
    understanding media so someone sent me a
  • 52:46
    link to a documentary about him
  • 52:50
    and so this is from 1967 and just the
  • 52:54
    three topics but all kind of around the
  • 52:56
    same idea you know when we talk about
  • 52:58
    off the grid
  • 52:59
    ot G I want to play that here is the
  • 53:04
    he's also the guy that came up with the
  • 53:06
    the the medium is the message was that
  • 53:09
    his quote yeah that's in the book
  • 53:11
    understanding media okay so that's
  • 53:12
    definitely but we have not discussed
  • 53:14
    this book on the show ever that I can
  • 53:16
    recall not on things it should be on the
  • 53:18
    no agenda book list for shit here he is
  • 53:22
    talking about now this is before the
  • 53:25
    internet but not really before satellite
  • 53:27
    or satellite was out there and he saw
  • 53:29
    new communications and satellites and
  • 53:32
    how this would affect news on satellite
  • 53:37
    system of broadcasting permits for
  • 53:38
    example an immediate participation in
  • 53:41
    events anywhere in the world ending all
  • 53:44
    news reports what we call a news report
  • 53:48
    is a verbalized substitute for
  • 53:51
    participation in that event with
  • 53:53
    satellite broadcasting you just go to
  • 53:55
    the place and participate directly in
  • 53:57
    the sufferings or the events of that
  • 53:59
    area floods or whatnot
  • 54:01
    weather this will tend to create a a new
  • 54:04
    kind of news right know for example the
  • 54:07
    present time what we automatically think
  • 54:09
    office news it's just bad news if it
  • 54:11
    isn't bad news it isn't news if it's
  • 54:14
    good news it's likely to be PR or
  • 54:16
    advertising and it takes an awful lot of
  • 54:19
    bad news to sell all that good news that
  • 54:23
    we have to carry in our newspapers and
  • 54:25
    magazine so this and just think of what
  • 54:28
    he's saying here in relation to what
  • 54:29
    we're seeing with news today so this
  • 54:31
    1967 I was three is fifty two years ago
  • 54:35
    this guy was saying there's either
  • 54:36
    deconstructing it perfectly before it
  • 54:38
    even happened and now he's going to give
  • 54:41
    us insight into what we're witnessing
  • 54:43
    today on social media which back in the
  • 54:46
    day was called the Global Village the
  • 54:48
    electronic Global Village does that go
  • 54:52
    back to the 60s that term
  • 54:55
    yeah that's where all came from you guys
  • 54:57
    were smart back then here he is and
  • 55:00
    listen yeah but there were just the
  • 55:01
    other work they made us get stoned so he
  • 55:04
    couldn't remember anything well here's a
  • 55:07
    little jiggling of your handle Global
  • 55:10
    Village is not created by the motorcar
  • 55:11
    or even by the airplane is created by
  • 55:14
    instant electronic them information
  • 55:17
    movement the Global Village is at once
  • 55:20
    planet as wide as the planet and as
  • 55:22
    small is a little town where everybody
  • 55:24
    is maliciously engaged in poking his
  • 55:26
    nose at everybody else's business the
  • 55:28
    global village is a world in which you
  • 55:31
    don't necessarily have harmony you have
  • 55:33
    extreme concern with everybody else's
  • 55:35
    business and much involvement in
  • 55:38
    everybody else's life it's a sort of an
  • 55:40
    lenders column writ large and it doesn't
  • 55:44
    necessarily mean harmony peace and quiet
  • 55:46
    but it does mean huge involvement in
  • 55:49
    everybody's office of everybody else's
  • 55:51
    affairs and so the Global Village is as
  • 55:54
    big as a planet and as small as the
  • 55:58
    village post office for example under
  • 55:59
    the age of the information explosion all
  • 56:02
    the walls go out between age groups
  • 56:04
    ethnic groups between family groups
  • 56:08
    national groups between economies the
  • 56:11
    walls all go out people suddenly have to
  • 56:14
    adjust themselves to this new proximity
  • 56:17
    this new interrelationship and merely to
  • 56:21
    tell them that this has happened isn't
  • 56:23
    very helpful for help for what they need
  • 56:24
    to know is if it is happening what does
  • 56:27
    it mean to me for example in the matter
  • 56:29
    of say automation and jobs screwed
  • 56:32
    screwed by the way by the way that what
  • 56:35
    is the deal or commentary there reflects
  • 56:38
    on an earlier segment of the show where
  • 56:40
    you got your call from Holland about the
  • 56:43
    shootings in Texas as if they should
  • 56:45
    care yep their button in and they
  • 56:49
    witnessed it as if they were there
  • 56:51
    because they witnessed the video they
  • 56:52
    witnessed firsthand so that's what he
  • 56:55
    would call satellite now the final clip
  • 56:57
    short this is this was very astute when
  • 57:01
    I heard this and it made me start to
  • 57:03
    think ok what exactly are we looking for
  • 57:07
    does things to people and they're always
  • 57:11
    completely unaware of this
  • 57:13
    they don't really notice the new medium
  • 57:17
    that is roughing them up they think of
  • 57:19
    the old medium because the old medium is
  • 57:22
    always the content of the new medium as
  • 57:26
    movies are tend to be the content of TV
  • 57:28
    and as books used to be the content
  • 57:31
    novels used to be the content of movies
  • 57:32
    and so every time a new medium arrives
  • 57:35
    the old medium is the content and it is
  • 57:38
    highly observable highly noticeable but
  • 57:40
    the real real roughing up and massaging
  • 57:43
    is done by the new medium and it is
  • 57:45
    ignored yes so what exactly is being
  • 57:49
    ignored that is being built with the new
  • 57:54
    medium while everyone obsesses over the
  • 57:56
    old content in the new medium and with
  • 57:58
    that I mean a cable news clips the
  • 58:02
    Netflix even Netflix Netflix you know
  • 58:05
    they to a degree they're creating
  • 58:07
    something new but not really they're
  • 58:09
    still doing the old content on the new
  • 58:11
    medium repurposing and producing in
  • 58:13
    similar ways so maybe podcasting is an
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    example of something that was completely
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    new I think I say what we do which is a
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    post modern form of old medium is
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    exactly what he's talking about yeah
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    which is why we're doing it really yeah
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    I'm doing it to stay alive just like you
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    fall in dude that you fall into it well
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    I have a few somebody's got to do it I
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    have a feeling everyone who's a part of
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    this value for value network is in one
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    way the other part of something much
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    bigger than the individual parts and
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    maybe that's a good time for me too
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    thank you for your courage and say in
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    the morning to you the man who put the
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    sea and climate eraser John C borass
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    good morning to you mr. Adam Caruso in
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    the morning all ships you see boots on
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    the ground feet in the air subs in the
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    water and all the Dames tonight's out
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    there yeah in the morning to the trolls
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    in the troll room hey trolls how you
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    doing no agenda stream calm where you
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    week there's always at least a hundred
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    people in there even the middle of the
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    trollin they're listening to shows and
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    we got a ton of great shows lot of them
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    happen live check it out for yourself
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    it's free no agenda stream calm and I'd
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    like to say a hearty in the morning -
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    Darren O'Neill hat-trick week how could
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    we not give him the hat trick 3 album
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    arts in a row 4 episode 11 69 I was
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    titled hockey-stick hoax it was just a
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    great collage of buttons including the
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    disgust better dead than red the my
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    other job as a podcast button you
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    trigger me I'm scared and never reboot
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    and there was there was good art
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    stuff but did have a debate over a
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    couple of pieces oh oh so a lot of
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    people did the the unhoused or the
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    homeless experience which was like a
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    Disney ride yes and I think was yeah
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    Mike Riley did a very good version but
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    it was so once you look at it in a
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    smaller format there was just so much
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    going on
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    Mike Riley that was the competitive
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    piece I think Mike Riley had a piece set
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    it was very good the funhouse and yep it
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    was horrible actually it was a gruesome
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    piece but it was all original art very
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    nice piece make a great poster yeah yeah
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    if you blow it up really big and you're
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    just looking at it yes holy crap what it
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    was too busy didn't pop yeah yeah yeah
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    that the difference was is that the
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    mofo that's right and if some others
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    have a lot of it was
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    and I thought Nick the rats
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    we had this calm he had the scooters
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    flying through the air for scooter
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    Nadeau
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    oh yeah and then but we decided to use
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    scooter Nadeau as the opening and then
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    we had to title it something different
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    it was very complicated when you think
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    you're done you still have a lot of work
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    after the show everyone's off partying
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    drinking smoking weed why we are just
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    choosing art and coming up with the
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    perfect trio of bits to I want to say
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    that one of the pieces from us the show
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    but the camping one yes by oh that was
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    also very good yeah I thought that was
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    really a wonderful incredibly great
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    piece it wasn't gonna look as well as a
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    cover I was gonna pop so much but I used
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    it for the newsletter so I could at
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    least push it out there good good well
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    it was just cause it's a dynamite piece
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    yes all those little post dual signs
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    that you see when you go camping a lot
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    of yeah I was a lot it was good it was
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    very good
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    so thank you for that and these things
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    really helped the show that's why
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    artists do we have 10 times as much
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    14,000 pieces of art and no agenda art
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    generator calm but when something like
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    podcasts that adhere to the spec as
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    and I understand it's hard when you
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    don't have producers but we have
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    thousands of producers many of them do
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    things like that many of them help the
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    first hour and to pay some respect to
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    our last episode commentary on
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    people asking for money etc sorry it's
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    been a while since my last donation
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    anyway think that's the end of that
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    moment of humor sorry it's been a while
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    since I haven't been to the Disneyland
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    as there's any one of those facilities
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    for some time sorry it's been a while
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    since my last donation I'm coming off a
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    long or coming off of the law of the
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    partay thanks for the good taste for the
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    not it's all right it's 400 miles away
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    or something forgive my forgive me pause
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    father for their I have bow nerd for far
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    too long my contribution of five five
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    to the BP itu today this podcast in the
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    universe with people who are unfamiliar
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    with the code happy birthday Adam John
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    you're my idol of technology as a dude
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    named Ben I strive for the same amount
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    of skepticism of tech as you the cranky
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    geek I even have the t-shirt nice it's a
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    collectible yeah I would like that I
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    don't even have one I would like I would
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    ask for and I don't send one I would ask
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    for jobs come but I think it's more
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    important to send goat Karma to my son
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    in the army currently stationed in
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    here you go you've got
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    thank you James I'm assuming is Georgia
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    the state not George the country yes sir
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    Dewayne Melanson Oh where's hurt oh I
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    know I didn't I'm sorry I have a
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    hold on where's
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    Jensen happy birthday Adam even though
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    you forgot my jingle I love the hockey
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    spike exposed a loved it in the last
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    episode as it is of 2/3 of my as 2/3 of
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    my offspring are up in arms about
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    climate change is real it seems it seems
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    only the podcasts are able to get me or
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    commemorate obviously your birthday nice
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    and he's in Cambridge Massachusetts just
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    a happy birthday Adam and jobs come a
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    please jobs jobs and jobs
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    that's Varma
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    on or Cynthia Cabrera in Hallandale
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    Beach Florida no it was a Hallandale
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    Beach looks like it 3:30 is probably a
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    cute place 3:30 3.33 I recently be on
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    the listening to your podcast three or
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    four or so ago you're four so far oh
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    wait she's up to three hundred thirty
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    three dollars and 33 cents after
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    listening to four shows all deduced
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    after hearing Adams comments on vaping
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    and the insane media coverage of the
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    alleged lung illnesses ha I felt it was
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    necessary to set the record straight
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    I've worked on regulatory and
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    legislation vaping issues since 2011 I
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    led what was at the time and still holds
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    the record for the large the largest
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    vapor trade associations in the space
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    and since departing the organization
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    I've consulted two companies larger and
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    small large and small I speak routinely
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    at meetings like all like all the annual
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    tobacco conference hosted events by the
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    Food and Drug and law institution goes
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    on and on with their background the
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    vapor industry is regulated but no
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    vaping products have been approved by
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    the FDA in fact there is very little
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    there's a very little baton there's no
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    battle going on these are the large
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    battle a large battle now me you want me
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    to reach this is very small here well
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    you might the problem is that this is
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    the one moment that you pick to do the
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    thing where the Sun is hitting the base
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    of my monitor of your chefs and right
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    into this abyss of flat base and
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    slamming me in the face okay so let me
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    pick it up in fact there's a very large
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    battle going on who's likely final
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    outcome will wipe out all vapor products
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    on the market as of May 10th 2020 any
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    vaping product that is not submitted at
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    pmta pre market tobacco application will
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    be considered an illegal product this is
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    this is actually some interesting news
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    this is content here so to address one
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    of your quotes directly there are no
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    approved products that have gone through
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    the regulatory process jool routine
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    routinely gets torn apart by the media
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    the FDA and the CDC and every anti
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    tobacco group out there
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    jool has been excoriated by pretty much
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    everyone so they're not protected or
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    immune from media coverage I don't work
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    for Jul Altria took a 30% investment in
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    Joule to the tune of 13 billion and they
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    don't own the company oh crap the 13
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    billion they only have 30 percent can't
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    believe that in fact they don't even
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    have a board seat and direct no
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    activities at Jul including their media
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    coverage the vaping illnesses being
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    poorly reported on a largely attributed
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    to synthetic THC or backroom type stuff
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    yes that we did say that not vaping
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    products like nicotine containing
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    liquids in them we're a very good
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    overview and more read
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    article from vaping 360 and as a URL and
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    let's see the same data claims Joule is
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    responsible for the epidemic of teen
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    teen vaping lumps and lumped in together
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    nicotine based products with marijuana
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    based products which are used quite a
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    bit amongst teens it is true that THC
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    cartridge producers do not generally add
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    nicotine to the mix although such
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    product does exist if you ever want
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    factual information about the regulatory
  • 1:10:51
    shitstorm that is about to destroy the
  • 1:10:53
    vaping industry please feel free to
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    contact me you know what a cynthia first
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    of all thank you very much for this I
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    think it we talk we've been following
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    vapes vaporizing for a long time I went
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    up to the Dallas Convention with with
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    Dexter which was a couple years back and
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    so this is good to know and even
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    correcting us on the 13 billion for only
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    30% of jewell that's there that would a
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    monstrous company what a monstrous
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    product well the thing that's in there
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    is that there's 13 billion invested in
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    the Joule and then the company that did
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    the investment isn't helping with their
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    PR which is dreadful yeah that's an
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    issue that somebody should address yes
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    that's that they haven't got anybody on
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    the board which is probably a bad idea
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    yeah what kind of what kind of thirteen
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    billion dollars around you put something
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    on the board maybe two people yes except
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    you know they've obviously been
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    successful too but if she thinks that
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    the whole thing's gonna go down the
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    tubes well that what we're gonna wind up
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    with is just a few companies who will
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    have sanctioned products well we kind of
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    figured this out early on is that you
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    know it's gonna cost you have to do a
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    million bucks to go through FDA approval
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    per per flavor so yeah anyway a lot of
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    this is just virtue signaling there's no
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    there's there's no regulation yet
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    so it's all just media you know
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    manipulation the making it sound like
  • 1:12:23
    there's all kinds of stuff happening but
  • 1:12:26
    it's all behind it well I'm gonna say
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    the competitors I'm saying anybody was
  • 1:12:31
    behind it but when I see the media keep
  • 1:12:34
    picking up these same exact stories and
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    so it's like a virtual like a press
  • 1:12:38
    release yeah
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    that you know about the lung damage well
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    I would say this company is behind it
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    because what they're trying to do is
  • 1:12:45
    you'll yes why not of course that's but
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    bad publicity they're going to be the
  • 1:12:51
    only guys doing it legally when all this
  • 1:12:53
    is over maybe no I thought I put that in
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    the book for me anyway
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    Cynthia thank you welcome to the No
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    Agenda producing family and thank you so
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    much for your support and me hand you a
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    car oh yeah uh this is new for you so
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    you might enjoy a little goat Karma so
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    something special we do here you've got
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    feels good right sir Johnny B comes up
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    next with 265 bucks from sir Johnny B
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    know Cuomo I Love New York no good isn't
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    that a reference to some sort of a
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    phrase yes I love you no homo I think
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    okay yeah yeah yeah happy birthday Adam
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    this is my yearly $5 a week donation and
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    $55 for your birthday like like when I
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    was gonna give 265 ok 105 dollars for
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    your birthday like the card from Carson
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    Island hold on a second I did find a way
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    to deal with this first election I just
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    put a denied notice I moved over and
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    fuga Zotoh though was here by count of
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    America's heartland and Saudi Arabia
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    checks in at two hundred fifty six
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    dollars and 19 cents these are our
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    buddies were just here the whole family
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    yes you just had dinner with him yes
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    donation ft5 samolians for uncle Adam's
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    birthday from each of us named Isabella
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    and melody and Sir Dave me along with
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    the Pelin palindrome Asian to celebrate
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    that as they say a family who no agenda
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    together hits people in the mouth
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    together request some cook travel
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    cameras they head back to Riyadh this
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    week and Adam thanks again for having
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    supper with us last weekend the ladies
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    got a kick out of hearing your coverage
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    of the evening on the following show
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    that they did yeah sure they were were
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    amused I it was a real gas jingle
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    request been a while since we had heard
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    the Gitmo nation national anthem as well
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    play at the end mine cueing that up I
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    thank you for your courage today fugu
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    Zotoh vite count of America's heartland
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    Saudi Arabia Day melody and the lovely
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    and talented Dame Isabella and the
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    flashing feet flashing the Riverdance I
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    tell you of the Riverdance
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    she the dance she's a pro yeah we saw
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    video of her dancing it's cool
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    well let me just throw them let me just
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    let me just throw him a karma and we'll
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    we'll get that Gitmo nation athlete from
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    man for you you've got karma into the
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    show that was the the travel Carmen they
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    needed Kevin I don't know
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    kookaburra chimera no yeah Kabira Cooper
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    Derek 255
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    he just says happy birthday Adam well
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    thank you Kevin
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    bill Waterson in pen tres I love angles
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    Barry great britain never heard of that
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    no no 250 bucks that's a long ways from
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    here a little over a year ago whilst
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    going through a period of frustration
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    with m5m a work colleague
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    niels von kucik smashed me in the mouth
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    it's nice one coke nears von Koch
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    well since then my newfound clarity of
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    thought and reasoning has nearly got me
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    beaten up but what I formerly considered
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    normal people and my friends are
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    astonished at my apparent overnight
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    overnight switch to an extreme far-right
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    Oh God welcome to the family Phil I'm
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    glad you're here yeah you say something
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    yeah global worries bullshit I've since
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    learned learned enlightenment is
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    dangerous and careless talk cuts costs
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    lives probably your own there's a symbol
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    of my great gratitude to one of the
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    finest men I I have had the fortune to
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    meet I would like to my donation to be
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    added to Neil's account which will bring
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    him to Knights status hmm my pledge
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    allegiance sir Jack Daniel's of end
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    Stone corrida vorak you're doing a great
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    thing Phil Watterson okay well this is
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    not on the list well I got it no I got a
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    note from Eric about that and he says
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    happy to do it but we just need the
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    because you know we don't track
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    everyone's accounting it's the honor
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    system and why wouldn't we were one
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    group so we just need Niels to send his
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    numbers in not that we don't believe you
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    we just want to make sure that we do it
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    right
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    so if Neil Stanley get my test tile he
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    once we have no you know I don't know if
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    that's the title he wants exactly
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    seconds in abeyance
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    yes but thank you very much in abeyance
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    thank you very much Phil karma for you
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    welcome my friend you've got
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    karma be careful with him John Foley out
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    of Chicago comes with two hundred thirty
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    two dollars and 55 cents witch's tribute
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    to the birthday jingles he's got some
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    jingles and Reverend Al respect you go
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    karma and that's true yeah in the
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    morning a happy belated birthday to Adam
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    and happy actual birthday to me it's my
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    first time in the first half of the show
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    and I other was first executive producer
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    excellent yes excellent I want to say
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    thanks for keeping the keeping me sane
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    and the such
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    a little unconventional and a bit brash
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    but I can but can I call out sir ten T
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    it guesses 10 T has a douchebag just you