Art for episode 1162

1162: Thank You Comrade

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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August 8th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Anonymous, Sir JB, Baron of the Chesapeake Bay & The Outer Banks, Rudolf Vesely, Sir Morgan of ANSI C, Sir Acid of the Candinavian Woods

Associate Executive Producers: Robert Reichenberg, Nissa Norelle

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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1:25
MSNBC Contributor Frank Figliuzzi Suggests Trump Made 'Heil Hitler' Reference
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7:32
MSNBC Host Nicole Wallace Accuses Trump of Talking About Exterminating Latinos
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11:05
Trump's Speech on Mass Shootings
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20:37
Former Department of Justice Official Suggests Evading the 4th Amendment Through Foreign Governments
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22:05
Homeland Security Employee Suggests Evading the 4th Amendment Through Private Corporations
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25:26
BBC World News on Trump's Texas Visit
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26:32
Democratic Socialists of America National Convention
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1:11:21
Anderson Cooper Admits Antidepressants Saved His Life
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1:12:42
Anderson Cooper Appearance at Turner Upfront
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1:15:59
Credits
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1:39:43
David Icke: "5G Does Not Like Mature Urban Trees"
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1:44:08
5G Networking
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1:45:38
OTG: AC's Cloaked iPhone
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1:49:36
OTG: ATSC 3.0
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1:55:57
One America News Network: 'How Private Browser "DuckDuckGo" May Be Giving Your Data to Google'
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1:59:36
Wall Street Journal: 'How To Build Your Own Smartphone for $70'
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2:05:08
Hong Kong Protests
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2:17:42
Donations
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2:23:15
Meetups
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2:27:58
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:30:46
National Public Media CEO Gina Garrubbo: "This Is The Sponsorship, Brand Advertiser World"
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2:36:48
Bernie Sanders Appearence on The Joe Rogan Experience
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2:38:52
Democracy Now!: 'Progressive Insurgent Tiffany Cabán Concedes to Melinda Katz in Queens DA Race'
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2:40:55
Mass Shootings
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2:42:16
SoulCycle Boycott
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2:45:38
2020 Democratic Presidential Candidate Julián Castro's Brother Tweets List of Trump Donators
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2:47:51
Untitled
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2:51:24
Canadian Human Rights Regarding Gender Identity
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2:59:58
Steve Sweeney on Bill Burr's Podcast: "I Took a Shit On The Sidewalk"
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3:01:34
End of Show
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    um um um Adam curry
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    Jhansi Dvorak episode 11 60 town this is
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    no agenda from northern Silicon Valley
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    an area plagued with white supremacists
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    I'm John Cena Bradley they're there too
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    Oh everybody all these Democrats into
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    Silicon Valley are all white
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    supremacists turns out and what to
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    evidence do you have of this I heard it
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    I read it uh-huh
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    the Canadians think so so do the Brits
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    so does the rest of the world this has
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    been is this quite the assault on the
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    United States we are phenomenon we are
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    the the biggest racial bunch of eight
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    holes in the universe yeah that's
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    unbelievable
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    well it's worse than that what do you
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    mean I've worse than Whitehall I mean
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    what do you what do you mean what do I
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    mean we've had this clip here it's funny
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    you should mention anything cuz it I
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    realized I don't know my glasses which I
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    have to go get while you're playing this
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    clip okay this is the MSNBC clip yes
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    insanity
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    yeah the insanity clip where not only is
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    the internet facilitating the speed of
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    radicalization but but our leader our
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    our chief executive is seen as almost a
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    mentor and a radicalize er and
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    unfortunately today we did not hear what
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    we needed to hear from that person that
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    these extremists and unstable people
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    look - he spoke in the in the passive
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    voice in the collective voice we didn't
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    hear first person from him we didn't
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    hear I condemn white hate ideology we
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    heard the nation must condemn it well
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    the nation does condemn it but we didn't
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    hear what we needed to hear so what
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    happens is the extremists in turn
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    what the president read off a script
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    today as something he needed to say
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    something he he didn't really want to
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    say so
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    the president's either getting really
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    good advice and rejecting it or he's
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    getting really bad advice
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    and and I'll give you an example of that
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    we have to understand the adversary and
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    the threat we're dealing with and if we
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    don't understand how they think we'll
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    never understand how to counter them so
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    it's little things and language and
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    messaging that matters the president
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    said that we will fly our flags at
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    half-mast until August 8th that's 8 8
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    now I'm not going to imply that he did
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    this deliberately but I am using it as
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    an example of the ignorance of the
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    adversary that's being demonstrated by
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    the White House the numbers 8 8 are very
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    significant in neo-nazi and white
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    supremacy movement why because the
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    letter H is the eighth letter of the
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    alphabet and to them the numbers 8 8
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    together stand for Heil Hitler
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    so we're gonna be raising the flag back
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    up at dusk on 88 no one's thinking about
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    this no one's no one's giving him the
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    advice or he's rejecting the advice so
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    understand your adversary is to counter
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    the adversary I know you're keeping your
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    options open there Frank but as chilling
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    as that is to hear you're saying it is
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    possible that someone who knows better
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    is authoring or editing the words that
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    show up and our read verbatim or are
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    supposed to be read verbatim by the
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    president you know I'm glad you he
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    almost got the full clip and I'm glad
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    you did that a lot of things
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    particularly on conservative Twitter are
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    being played without context and you
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    even missed I think the context of what
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    this is Frank what's his name
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    but Nucci aware is an ex-fbi top dog
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    well that's why it's important to have
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    it in context most people didn't even
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    have that much when they when they
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    showed a clip of this guy talking it's
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    just Oh Trump is ready setting the flag
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    on a date Hitler eight eight eight H
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    this guy is not by the way H H meant
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    hail Hydra
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    okay so the point is these are the
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    Marvel fans out there will appreciate
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    that and here we go on this guy is the
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    former assistant director of the FBI and
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    if we go back to the beginning of this
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    interview it's a little more interesting
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    than just although out of context on
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    Twitter all you saw was this guy is
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    crazy numerology but you had here that
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    he's explaining hey wait a minute
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    someone may be writing speeches for the
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    President and he doesn't know what he's
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    saying they may be slipping stuff in but
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    it's a little bit worse than that
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    because this guy made some predictions
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    five days ago
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    Frankfurt Guzzi the former FBI assistant
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    director for counterintelligence wrote
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    the following in an op-ed in The New
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    York Times and we quote instinct and
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    experience tell me we're headed for
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    trouble in the form of white hate
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    violence stoked by a racially divisive
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    president she imagined that and the
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    former FBI assistant director predicting
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    violence from white supremacist five
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    just five days before it happens on the
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    sixth day a cycle perhaps it happens he
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    has chosen a reelection strategy based
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    on appealing to the kinds of hatred fear
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    and ignorance that can lead to violence
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    and once again tonight we have Frankfurt
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    Lucy back on our broadcast Frank what
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    were the signs and how do we know how to
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    navigate this tomorrow and the next day
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    this is this starts becoming the
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    definition of terrorism when people
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    develop anxiety about what should be
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    free-flowing public places totally
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    scripted between the two it was
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    pathetically scripted and then and the
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    fact that Williams or any normal
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    journalist didn't push back on this h/h
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    nonsense which is just a creation of
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    maniacs is beyond me I mean it well it's
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    not beyond me because MSNBC works you
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    know like this is what they do they got
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    these scripted segments and they go back
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    and forth and they read the script very
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    well but
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    yeah yeah well you're associating it
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    with the with the cycle and the
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    terrorism malarkey and all the rest of
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    it I'm just saying why does this guy
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    predict something it happens five days
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    later he shows up then he's talking all
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    kinds of stuff like them he essentially
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    says there may be people in and around
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    the press in the White House and around
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    the president who are true white
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    supremacist Nazis who are slipping stuff
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    in and to be fair the President did not
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    mistake Dayton you know Dayton for
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    Toledo that was in his teleprompter and
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    I'm not sure how that got in there if
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    you do Toledo white supremacist in 2015
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    there was a huge neo-nazi clash in
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    Toledo Ohio I'm not so sure he's
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    completely off-base I'm yeah I'm not
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    sure he's not off-base I don't know but
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    I'll tell you there are provocateurs out
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    there on in the left-wing media and
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    they're doing a really good job and I
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    have another example let me just do the
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    second example this is another thing
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    that Republican conservative Twitter
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    lost their crap over and this is Nicole
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    Wallace this is the clip that most
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    people saw the last Republican president
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    fought for thought and and and it's not
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    an ideal that had 44 percent of Latino
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    voters it was so politically powerful in
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    inside the last for public
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    administration President Obama used the
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    power of the presidency to try to pass
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    comprehensive immigration reform with
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    the Latino community Latino leaders at
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    the table you don't have a president you
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    said talking about exterminating right
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    Latinas what were you yelling what
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    comprehensive immigration reform did
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    Obama try to cash just listen to the
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    clip and then you'll see what outside go
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    on play you don't have a president as
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    you said talking about exterminating
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    Latino it's not it so you now have a
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    president who's talking about
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    exterminating Latinos of course we do
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    that of course people lost their shit
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    over this and she had to come up with
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    some half-hearted apology about that she
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    misspoke etc but if you really listen to
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    what she says you know
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    president as you said talking about
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    exterminating right my Tina she says you
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    now have a president as you said because
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    this guy she's talking to Raul Rhys are
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    you is who is on the editorial board of
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    USA Today has no wikipedia page only
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    BIOS on the internet about what he's
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    done who he works for
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    just he just shows up everywhere there's
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    no background I'm telling you this guy
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    is a provocateur because he indeed did
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    put this in her head Nicole Wallace is a
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    simpleton so she picked that up and used
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    it stupidly but listen to this guy and
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    with regard to the president's remarks
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    sad to say I don't really see at this
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    point anything he can do in words and
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    actions throughout his presidency he's
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    basically declared open season on
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    Latinos because we are one of his
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    favorite favorite targets and it's not
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    just the language he used you know you
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    mentioned calling Mexicans drug dealers
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    and rapists when he came down the
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    escalator that was day one then it
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    escalated into attacks on Latino
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    journalists it escalated into attacks on
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    the so called as in his words the
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    Mexican judge then he ramped it up again
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    to the invasion the warning people of
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    the caravan and works like infestation
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    what do you do with an infestation with
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    an infestation the natural lot the
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    conclusion is to attempt an
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    extermination so to me there's very
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    little distinction between his inciting
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    this violence and the fact that it is
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    now happening because I you can hear
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    this guy said it she referred back to
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    him she's an idiot but this guy this
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    guy's a spook or he's something he's
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    some kind of provocateur and I have no
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    other information about him other than
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    he's on the USA Today editorial board
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    which is concerning by itself saying
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    these types of things so there is
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    something going on a concerted push a
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    real effort and they've we've abandoned
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    everything now abandon it Russia
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    everything else at the present now it's
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    in the rotation so it's you know a boy
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    in a band but but this seems to be the
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    all-in way that they're all going and
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    worse what really irks me is what the
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    president said this is I mean this is
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    really I have not seen it so bad in the
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    United States as this and I pulled a
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    couple of clips from his statement that
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    he read off the teleprompter uninspired
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    this is where he and if you can go back
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    and look and you'll see that he is
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    reading Toledo from the teleprompter in
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    fact it even looks like for a moment he
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    realizes that can't be right but he
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    still reads it but What did he say the
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    shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto
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    online consumed by racist hate in one
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    voice our nation must condemn racism
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    bigotry and white supremacy these
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    sinister ideologies must be defeated
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    hate has no place in America hatred
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    warps the mind ravages the heart and
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    devours the soul so notice he's taking
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    the manifesto at face value that this
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    guy did it even though there is evidence
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    to the contrary here is the owner of
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    eight Qian where the manifesto so-called
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    which we which we looked at in detail on
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    the last show where the shooter uploaded
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    that now a Chan is a weird it's
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    basically a bulletin board we can post
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    off and you can do that anonymously the
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    guy who runs I think the servers are in
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    the Philippines he makes his money by
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    advertising on HN and of odd travel
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    books which you know a sketchy travel
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    books about weird stuff you can see in
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    different countries I don't care but he
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    made a statement about this being
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    uploaded to hm first of all the old
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    passive shooter posted on Instagram not
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    eight ten later someone uploaded a
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    manifesto however that manifesto was not
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    uploaded by the Walmart shooter
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    I don't know if he wrote it or not but
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    it was not uploaded by the murderer that
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    is clear and law enforcement was made
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    aware of this before most people had
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    even heard the horrific news by the way
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    he put the the taps bugle under it
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    that's just the the drama of how he
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    wants to present this but notice he
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    could know by eye Device Identifier zai
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    P addresses it's a tree said whoever
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    uploaded that manifesto it wasn't the
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    guy who was posting on a chain
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    previously you don't hear about that the
  • 13:46
    spirit and letter of the law have always
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    been faithfully fulfilled and my company
  • 13:52
    has always made certain of that it is
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    unfortunate that this place of free
  • 13:57
    speech has temporarily been removed all
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    right so for the President to take this
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    in his speech and he's reading it so
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    he's responsible for it to take it at
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    face value as the truth or as a single
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    guy who did all this is just factually
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    not true we know it now he should have
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    known that then he hears the president
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    again we must seek real bipartisan
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    solutions we have to do that in a
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    bipartisan manner that will truly make
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    America safer and better for all first
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    we must do a better job of identifying
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    and acting on early warning signs I am
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    directing the Department of Justice to
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    work in partisan partnership with local
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    state and federal agencies as well as
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    social media companies to develop tools
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    that can detect mass shooters before
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    they strike as an example the monster in
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    the Parkland High School in Florida had
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    many red flags against him and yet
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    nobody took decisive action nobody did
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    anything why not now
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    the Parkland shooter was mainly family
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    members and friends who called the FBI
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    and complained about him there was only
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    one small posting if I recall correctly
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    on mmm think maybe it was Instagram but
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    that was really
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    a social media case now the president is
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    talking about working with social media
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    companies to identify problems which
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    you'll call red flags in a moment and I
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    don't know is he going to stifle people
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    is he now going to work on deep
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    platforming is you know if he's if any
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    of this is planned that is just the fact
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    that they want to go snooping around is
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    almost a direct violation of Fourth
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    Amendment rights this is an outrage
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    second we must stop the glorification of
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    violence in our society this includes
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    the gruesome and grisly video games that
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    are now commonplace it is too easy today
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    for troubled youth to surround
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    themselves with a culture that
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    celebrates violence we must stop or
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    substantially reduce this and it has to
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    begin immediately so calling out video
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    games is old trope there's no scientific
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    evidence nor is there scientific
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    evidence that the litany of movies from
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    Hollywood and television shows have
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    similar influence Tarantino's latest
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    bloodbath is in theaters now no mention
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    of that now for sure video games are is
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    a huge industry and maybe it conditions
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    kids I mean this president our president
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    is the guy at the front of the military
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    the most Merkers machine ever built in
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    history oh yeah yeah but let's not have
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    a culture of violence anywhere what he
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    doesn't mention of course is that these
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    things by themselves you know may spur
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    someone on but how about the combination
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    of drugs combination of SSRIs
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    psychotropic drugs not a single mention
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    about that third we must reform our
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    mental health laws to better identify
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    mentally disturbed individuals who may
  • 17:26
    commit acts of violence and make sure
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    those people not only get treatment but
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    when necessary involuntary
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    confinement mental illness and hatred
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    pulls the trigger not the gun okay so
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    he's saying this of course to distance
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    everything from guns from what's going
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    on what is he gonna do now if you if
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    you're angry and you post something
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    hateful are you gonna be picked up and
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    and unvoluntary incarcerated because you
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    may be mentally ill all we just have we
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    just have to check you Mr curry just
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    make sure that everything's okay make
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    sure that your your you're not
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    completely out of control very dangerous
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    shit that's going on here
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    fourth we must make sure that those
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    judged to pose a grave risk to public
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    safety do not have access to firearms
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    and that if they do those firearms can
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    be taken through rapid due process so
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    are we gonna go straight to rob reiner
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    's house and take away any guns you know
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    he has because he appears mentally ill I
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    mean may think it's a good idea but it
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    could happen to me that is why I have
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    called for red flag laws also known as
  • 18:40
    extreme risk protection orders now none
  • 18:44
    of this is an executive order he's just
  • 18:46
    reading from the script but when he says
  • 18:48
    extreme risk protection order I feel an
  • 18:51
    executive order coming on pretty soon
  • 18:53
    and it's literally going to be like a
  • 18:55
    Gestapo force that is going to check on
  • 18:58
    you online if you're okay if something's
  • 19:00
    not wrong with you
  • 19:01
    we'll do a little sanity check oh you
  • 19:03
    got some guns now let's take those away
  • 19:04
    first just in case red flag today I'm
  • 19:08
    also directing the Department of Justice
  • 19:10
    to propose legislation ensuring that
  • 19:14
    those who commit hate crimes and mass
  • 19:17
    murders face the death penalty and that
  • 19:22
    this capital punishment be delivered
  • 19:24
    quickly decisively and without years of
  • 19:27
    needless delay understanding where the
  • 19:30
    president's coming from that a lot of
  • 19:32
    mass shooters sit in jail for years and
  • 19:35
    years and years on end I understand what
  • 19:37
    he's saying but you put that in
  • 19:39
    combination with a red flag maybe some
  • 19:42
    mental health issues clear hate
  • 19:46
    oh I'm sorry we got to go kill you now I
  • 19:48
    mean I know it sounds a little extreme
  • 19:50
    but is it really when you hear what he's
  • 19:52
    saying these are just a few of the areas
  • 19:55
    of cooperation that we can pursue I am
  • 19:59
    open and ready to listen and discuss all
  • 20:01
    ideas that will actually work now the
  • 20:05
    way he says that
  • 20:06
    maybe he's negating all of this and and
  • 20:09
    maybe that's a signal saying well you
  • 20:12
    know this is all bullcrap I'm just
  • 20:14
    saying it so I'm open eyes it will
  • 20:16
    really work but I don't like it it will
  • 20:19
    actually work and make a very big
  • 20:21
    difference Republicans and Democrats
  • 20:25
    have proven that we can join together in
  • 20:28
    a bipartisan fashion to address this
  • 20:30
    plague already the government is
  • 20:35
    swinging into action on this they are
  • 20:37
    loving it here's a former Department of
  • 20:39
    Justice official this is this is where
  • 20:42
    they're taking the president's words and
  • 20:45
    the FBI alone tracked domestic terrorism
  • 20:48
    or doesn't need all the agencies of
  • 20:50
    government it needs to be approached the
  • 20:52
    same way we approached again
  • 20:54
    international terrorism after 9/11 which
  • 20:57
    is working with foreign governments and
  • 21:00
    foreign law enforcement and foreign
  • 21:01
    intelligence agencies to track the
  • 21:04
    trends figure out who the radicalizes
  • 21:06
    are because white supremacy is not
  • 21:07
    unique to the United States now do you
  • 21:10
    hear what she's saying we need to work
  • 21:12
    with foreign governments why because the
  • 21:14
    Fourth Amendment prohibits the
  • 21:16
    government from snooping around your
  • 21:18
    business in the United States but just
  • 21:20
    like they did with this you know the
  • 21:22
    FISA warrants they use the the British
  • 21:25
    intelligence and Tahlia natella do any
  • 21:27
    one of the five eyes they'll use them
  • 21:29
    and send that information to us then
  • 21:31
    we'll go pick them up that's what she's
  • 21:33
    saying - this has become a global
  • 21:34
    problem we need to treat it as a global
  • 21:37
    global problem which means information
  • 21:39
    sharing between governments it means
  • 21:42
    information sharing between the federal
  • 21:44
    government and States and locals and it
  • 21:46
    means information sharing with the
  • 21:48
    public with the American public to help
  • 21:51
    people to understand terrorism is not
  • 21:53
    just Islamist extremist terrorism terror
  • 21:56
    and terrace acts of violence can be
  • 21:58
    motivated by any ideology far-right for
  • 22:02
    left anything Mary McCool thank you for
  • 22:04
    being with us
  • 22:05
    no one mourn that I'm done with the rant
  • 22:06
    this is a former Obama DHS stooge and
  • 22:10
    yet President Trump is saying he will
  • 22:12
    now give the FBI whatever they need to
  • 22:15
    tackle it so what tools to the FBI need
  • 22:18
    well of course we need you know more
  • 22:20
    undercover long-term investigations into
  • 22:23
    those who are plotting terrorist acts I
  • 22:25
    think there's a good lesson to be
  • 22:28
    learned in the countering violent
  • 22:29
    extremism program we actually had the
  • 22:33
    first three organizations in 2018 that
  • 22:35
    were given grant funding however that
  • 22:38
    funding was pulled for countering
  • 22:40
    violent extremism among white
  • 22:42
    nationalists so we need to reconstitute
  • 22:44
    that and have an equal distribution of
  • 22:46
    funding and resources for countering
  • 22:48
    violent white nationalism but how does
  • 22:50
    the FBI track people who go online to
  • 22:53
    these sites like eight chanoh
  • 22:55
    become radicalized incredibly quickly
  • 22:58
    yeah so here in America we have a bill
  • 23:00
    of rights that gives constitutional
  • 23:03
    protections to people one of those is
  • 23:05
    the freedom of speech and so the FBI's
  • 23:08
    hands are kind of tied until they have a
  • 23:10
    criminal predicate or probable cause to
  • 23:13
    investigate so how they go about
  • 23:14
    monitoring these social media websites
  • 23:16
    is by contracting it out with private
  • 23:19
    companies who don't have those
  • 23:20
    limitations that's how you circumvent
  • 23:23
    the Fourth Amendment it's a beautiful
  • 23:24
    system this is outrageous and I can't
  • 23:29
    believe that where is where's Fox News
  • 23:31
    on this where's Tucker Carlson virtue
  • 23:34
    signaling about how dangerous there's no
  • 23:36
    where no is no one picking up on this am
  • 23:39
    I an idiot am i over blowing it well
  • 23:44
    you're definitely ahead of the pack okay
  • 23:48
    I'm I'm protective of my rights and
  • 23:52
    yours now a couple of things that I
  • 23:54
    wanted to get back up unfortunately
  • 23:57
    you're already past this but by mile ago
  • 23:59
    but I was intrigued and I'm not gonna
  • 24:03
    say you're right or wrong about this or
  • 24:04
    you're you're hysterical
  • 24:05
    but
  • 24:08
    I was intrigued by the early by the
  • 24:12
    notion that there's an agent provocateur
  • 24:14
    in the White House
  • 24:17
    planting coded messages to white
  • 24:21
    supposedly to white supremacists
  • 24:23
    although it'd be more likely to be coded
  • 24:25
    by a left-wing or in the White House who
  • 24:29
    is slipping these terms and these ideas
  • 24:31
    and like raising the flag on 88 yeah
  • 24:34
    as a tribute to Hitler you have to be
  • 24:38
    somewhat nuts to even think that but
  • 24:41
    White House because it seems to be
  • 24:44
    working in concert with that guy that
  • 24:46
    you had interviewed that guy who was on
  • 24:49
    the FBI guy that was on Brian Williamson
  • 24:52
    yes
  • 24:53
    told us stuff that was like didn't make
  • 24:56
    any sense unless there was actually
  • 24:58
    something going on and this guy knew
  • 25:00
    about it and as part of a concerted
  • 25:02
    effort to do this to just embarrass the
  • 25:05
    president by putting in coded messages
  • 25:07
    using the wrong words or I've never seen
  • 25:11
    this phrasing the flag on 88 have you
  • 25:14
    ever seen this Frank sigfig Luisi before
  • 25:17
    I'd never seen him before
  • 25:18
    apparently he's on MSNBC all the time
  • 25:20
    because when Brian introduced it he says
  • 25:22
    welcome back yeah well we missed him the
  • 25:26
    first time the BBC also did something
  • 25:28
    very interesting the speaking of coded
  • 25:31
    language in this time this time a little
  • 25:33
    more obvious this is from BBC World News
  • 25:36
    this is the report that came out at 1:00
  • 25:38
    p.m.
  • 25:39
    President Trump is heading for the
  • 25:41
    sights of mass shootings in Ohio and
  • 25:42
    Texas amid warnings that he will not be
  • 25:45
    welcome the shootings left 31 people
  • 25:47
    dead mr. Trump's rhetoric has been
  • 25:49
    blamed for inciting hate crimes against
  • 25:51
    immigrants and ethnic minority groups ok
  • 25:54
    been blamed for inciting hate crimes
  • 25:56
    against ethnic minority groups one hour
  • 25:59
    later this is the headline president
  • 26:02
    Trump is heading for the sights of mass
  • 26:03
    shootings in Ohio and Texas amid
  • 26:05
    warnings that he will not be welcome the
  • 26:08
    shootings left 31 people dead his visit
  • 26:10
    comes amid a continuing row over whether
  • 26:13
    mr. Trump's choice of words in his
  • 26:14
    tweets and speeches has contributed to
  • 26:17
    white supremacists violence
  • 26:18
    president denies this oh I guess they
  • 26:21
    got a call from somewhere hey you know
  • 26:24
    you're off message BBC get it back to
  • 26:27
    white supremacy that is a great catch
  • 26:31
    I'm wondering again taking it back to
  • 26:34
    the idea that there's a Al Shean
  • 26:36
    provocateur in the White House and
  • 26:39
    there's always been and they tend to be
  • 26:41
    lefties that are pushing an agenda
  • 26:45
    I'm thinking it's communists possible
  • 26:50
    you laugh but you didn't pay any
  • 26:52
    attention to the GSA convention oh I'm
  • 26:55
    sorry I not only paid attention
  • 26:58
    I saw your clips I got real clean better
  • 27:01
    clips good cuz I lost one of my best
  • 27:03
    clips by because I was randomly moving
  • 27:06
    stuff around and I I took out one of the
  • 27:09
    files and I didn't go back and recreate
  • 27:11
    it but let's put it this way these the
  • 27:14
    guy who ran Alexander Acosta Cortez's
  • 27:17
    operation the head of the Justice
  • 27:18
    Democrats who's now working on the green
  • 27:21
    new deal and he himself regarding the
  • 27:24
    green new deal said it was it really
  • 27:25
    wasn't about ecology or greenhouse gas
  • 27:28
    or anything else is about a way to
  • 27:30
    fundamentally change to eat the economic
  • 27:33
    system in the United States that's a
  • 27:35
    paraphrase but that's what he said and
  • 27:37
    the idea that did just so many of these
  • 27:40
    guys all out of the blue they've come
  • 27:42
    out of the colleges and they're
  • 27:45
    straight-up Marxist I mean when you
  • 27:47
    listen to the TSA people saying Thank
  • 27:50
    You comrade time after time you have you
  • 27:55
    come raden Thank You comrade that's my I
  • 27:58
    so it's like talk about chilling and
  • 28:03
    this is going on nobody is even
  • 28:06
    discussing it from the left and the
  • 28:08
    media is not discussing it they're
  • 28:10
    discussing white supremacy I think the
  • 28:12
    white supremacy thing is a total red
  • 28:14
    herring I don't know any white
  • 28:16
    supremacists I don't know anyone else
  • 28:19
    who does but they're all talking to so
  • 28:20
    the whole country's crawling with him
  • 28:22
    suddenly and out of the blue because as
  • 28:24
    you listen to that FBI guy he said and
  • 28:27
    and by the way this route again confirms
  • 28:30
    that he may be him
  • 28:31
    self part of a conspiracy he said well
  • 28:34
    they look to Trump for his coded
  • 28:39
    messages and not did he didn't use coded
  • 28:40
    but he looked for Trump as a mentor to
  • 28:43
    the white supremacist why are they
  • 28:45
    looking to trump Trump's not a white
  • 28:48
    supremacist he may be Jewish his WisDOT
  • 28:50
    eyes of the Orthodox the whole thing is
  • 28:55
    ludicrous but not it's not ludicrous if
  • 28:58
    that's actually a message you look to
  • 29:00
    Trump because Trump has coded messages
  • 29:03
    that he's unaware of do you want to hear
  • 29:06
    the full
  • 29:08
    now we don't have to go back to that guy
  • 29:10
    I think it's clear I think it's well
  • 29:13
    that would certainly be a communist or
  • 29:15
    socialist way of doing things
  • 29:18
    communist communist well I'll tell you
  • 29:21
    this D si now I I
  • 29:24
    whenever I see funny clips from
  • 29:27
    something like that and they were
  • 29:28
    extremely funny and we're gonna play
  • 29:30
    yours and then I want to play some
  • 29:32
    things that I picked up they had taken
  • 29:35
    off about five hours of video that they
  • 29:39
    had posted to YouTube I was I was just
  • 29:42
    looking for one one full full video
  • 29:45
    could not find anything in search you
  • 29:47
    know tried being tried Quan two tried
  • 29:51
    everything then I even succumbed to
  • 29:53
    Google I searched on YouTube went to no
  • 29:57
    agenda social calm there of course our
  • 29:59
    producers found all of the recordings
  • 30:02
    which still closed Twitter for this this
  • 30:05
    methodology you used but all of the
  • 30:08
    clips were linked on the DSA website
  • 30:12
    they took them down I was looking for it
  • 30:16
    they took him down they only had one
  • 30:19
    left and that's the one I got the clips
  • 30:21
    from but let's do some of the funny
  • 30:23
    stuff first and let's start with yours
  • 30:25
    which one you want to go with okay well
  • 30:27
    a couple of things were going on there
  • 30:28
    was say this is the Democrat socialist
  • 30:33
    of America DSA con 2019 this is the
  • 30:36
    convention of all the chapters of the
  • 30:39
    Democrat socialist of America in a hotel
  • 30:42
    in Atlanta and there was voting going on
  • 30:47
    about you know the actual structure the
  • 30:50
    delegates they were you know what you
  • 30:53
    saw is people trying to be social
  • 30:55
    justice warriors and socialists at the
  • 30:58
    time which believe it or not does not go
  • 31:00
    together very well
  • 31:02
    go ahead well they had a lot of and by
  • 31:07
    the way they also employed all the the
  • 31:09
    old Occupy coded ways of presenting the
  • 31:13
    audience you know that which you can't
  • 31:15
    clap because it might disturb somebody
  • 31:17
    the clip that I lost was the guy
  • 31:19
    bitching about people mumbling to each
  • 31:21
    other
  • 31:22
    that's one right here I'm good I'm glad
  • 31:24
    you have it sorry
  • 31:26
    wait wait wait and so you have a bunch
  • 31:29
    of people twinkling and so that's where
  • 31:33
    you put your arms in the air and you'll
  • 31:34
    wave your hands around if you're a
  • 31:36
    that's a form of applauding but you
  • 31:38
    can't it's not this finger snapping
  • 31:40
    applauding which was used and supposedly
  • 31:42
    there's a better way to applaud in
  • 31:44
    nightclubs harkening back to the 50s in
  • 31:48
    a beatnik place and but there you hold
  • 31:51
    your hands in the air and you're waving
  • 31:52
    will wave your hands and you will do
  • 31:54
    wiggle your hands around and that met
  • 31:55
    yay nuts just so you know throughout and
  • 31:58
    I really I watched it all throughout
  • 32:01
    this it was referred to as ASL that's
  • 32:04
    what they call it and it is true ASL is
  • 32:07
    American Sign Language and clapping in
  • 32:09
    in ASL is the jazz hands so I don't know
  • 32:13
    what you got twinkling from but
  • 32:14
    twinkling is the is the word for it that
  • 32:17
    but they they consistently called it ASL
  • 32:20
    well they can call whatever they want
  • 32:21
    but it came out of occupying it was
  • 32:23
    called twinkling and there's and there's
  • 32:26
    a downward movement they I guess to
  • 32:30
    occupy people got it from them but from
  • 32:32
    American sign language but I'm not sure
  • 32:33
    but I was lectured about this by JC who
  • 32:36
    knows all this stuff well he would know
  • 32:38
    that it's from ASL v'n right they may
  • 32:41
    have been mentioned all I know is I was
  • 32:44
    attracted to the term twinkling cuz I
  • 32:47
    did in this clip no I don't have that no
  • 32:51
    because I just describing the situation
  • 32:53
    because there's nothing none of its in
  • 32:54
    these clips but what I have is for
  • 32:56
    example this is a woman that's gonna
  • 32:58
    talk about the marshals because they
  • 32:59
    have you can't just go to a microphone
  • 33:01
    and get in line and say stuff you have
  • 33:04
    to be ordered by the marshals to be in
  • 33:06
    certain order so it's gonna be very
  • 33:08
    structured and so they've had nothing
  • 33:09
    but trouble with this system so they had
  • 33:11
    to add a second marshal who if you don't
  • 33:14
    like what the first marshal said you
  • 33:15
    appeal to him and but I think about this
  • 33:19
    is the classic milieu driven woman who
  • 33:24
    is who has the podium at them at the
  • 33:26
    moment this is the clip but the UM girl
  • 33:28
    and I want you to listen carefully for
  • 33:31
    the number of outrageous
  • 33:34
    uncountable times that she says um-um-um
  • 33:39
    and it reminds me of the other real
  • 33:42
    major um girls and I have another girl
  • 33:46
    coming up but that's gonna do with this
  • 33:48
    was that woman that was from NPR who
  • 33:51
    talked about advertising she was one of
  • 33:53
    these in the st. this same sounds like
  • 33:55
    the same milieu to me which doesn't
  • 33:56
    surprise me that you'd have NPR and a
  • 33:59
    socialist milieu going um um um you
  • 34:03
    don't say um there's many times unless
  • 34:04
    everybody's doing it this is just me
  • 34:08
    noticing something out loud as the chair
  • 34:11
    and you can take me up if you wish or
  • 34:14
    you can ignore me I have noticed that a
  • 34:16
    lot of our points of information and our
  • 34:18
    points of parliamentary inquiry and our
  • 34:20
    points in general are coming from just
  • 34:22
    about the same six to eight people I
  • 34:25
    would suggest that you practice being
  • 34:27
    socialist organizers and you see if you
  • 34:29
    can recruit somebody else to make your
  • 34:31
    point that's usually a good indication
  • 34:32
    if it's a good point to make second I
  • 34:34
    have received some questions about the
  • 34:37
    marshals
  • 34:38
    who are helping to sort of convene the
  • 34:41
    progressive stack just so everybody is
  • 34:44
    clear the marshals at all of the mics
  • 34:46
    are actually not delegate there has been
  • 34:49
    a concern that they may be politically
  • 34:51
    motivated none of them are delegate so
  • 34:53
    just putting that out there they're not
  • 34:55
    something for specific resolutions
  • 34:57
    they're doing the Lord Marx's work the
  • 35:03
    Lord Marx's work oh my goodness I don't
  • 35:10
    think that's in the handbook you're not
  • 35:13
    supposed to call him the Lord are you
  • 35:15
    don't know what the handbook says I've
  • 35:18
    never seen it but the Lord Marx's work
  • 35:20
    okay resolutions they're doing the Lord
  • 35:23
    Marx's work second we have implemented
  • 35:28
    sort of a process because I have I have
  • 35:31
    learned that there has been a lot of
  • 35:33
    debate within the lines about whether
  • 35:35
    the Marshalls recommendations about the
  • 35:38
    ordering and the staff are appropriate
  • 35:41
    so each mic now has two marshals the
  • 35:45
    second marshal is to settle dispute
  • 35:48
    I'm a little upset that it has come to
  • 35:50
    that but if there are disagreements in
  • 35:52
    the stack about who should go first
  • 35:54
    again there will be a second marshal
  • 35:56
    there to make sure that it's an
  • 35:57
    impartial decision let me just go
  • 36:00
    through and just so the another point
  • 36:03
    the marshals are very aware that some
  • 36:05
    identities are invisible so as much as
  • 36:07
    possible they are proactively coming up
  • 36:09
    to folks who are in the stack and just
  • 36:11
    trying to get a sense of who they are
  • 36:13
    and where they should be third I've
  • 36:18
    received a lot of complaints about I
  • 36:20
    know that there like some people just in
  • 36:22
    general really prefer to stand I'm one
  • 36:24
    of those people and very fidgety I can't
  • 36:26
    sit for very long I think that's totally
  • 36:28
    fine I'm just gonna ask as much as
  • 36:30
    possible if the folks who are standing
  • 36:32
    could do so in the back it's a little
  • 36:34
    distracting to people on the sides the
  • 36:37
    movement so please do that if you plan
  • 36:41
    to stand for most of our sessions you're
  • 36:42
    killing me with this um girl and then
  • 36:46
    just again I want to reiterate what
  • 36:49
    progressive stack is for the intents and
  • 36:52
    purposes of this convention
  • 36:53
    progressive stack is meant to ensure
  • 36:55
    that people from you know historically
  • 36:58
    oppressed and minor marginalized
  • 37:01
    identities who often don't get heard
  • 37:04
    from enough not just at this convention
  • 37:06
    but also in broader society have a fair
  • 37:09
    chance to speak it is not about sort of
  • 37:13
    trading back and forth stories of has
  • 37:17
    the most relevant personal life
  • 37:20
    experiences to speak to an item that's
  • 37:24
    up for debate yeah this really is very
  • 37:27
    hard to listen to that now you can stop
  • 37:30
    it and let's just go to because it
  • 37:32
    continues with I want to follow it up
  • 37:33
    with the there's marginalize people
  • 37:35
    thing is a big deal to this group and so
  • 37:39
    you have a bunch of people coming out
  • 37:41
    and everybody by the way does the
  • 37:42
    following when they go up there this is
  • 37:45
    a 3-second this is when you go up you do
  • 37:47
    this this is the DSA speaker intro
  • 37:49
    personal pronouns you always put this in
  • 37:51
    there my name is Matt Rubin I'm from
  • 37:54
    Pittsburgh TSA my pronouns are he/him
  • 37:55
    yes hello a point of personal privilege
  • 37:57
    my name is Adam Curry Austin Texas
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    hee haw no brother ok so there wasn't
  • 38:07
    they them that showed up she was a an NB
  • 38:10
    was pretty obvious and she had to make
  • 38:13
    sure they wouldn't knew that she was of
  • 38:14
    a them so let's listen to this is the
  • 38:18
    marginalized people clip that that
  • 38:21
    precedes the next clip which but replay
  • 38:23
    this is they're very concerned about
  • 38:25
    this because if somebody was
  • 38:26
    marginalized means you are you have
  • 38:29
    taken yourself out of the you maybe have
  • 38:32
    autism for example if you're autistic
  • 38:34
    you're marginalize if you're handicapped
  • 38:36
    you're marginalized if it you or you you
  • 38:38
    end up marginalized you don't want to be
  • 38:40
    necessarily maybe you do but you are so
  • 38:44
    let's play the marginalized people thing
  • 38:45
    and that the hard heartbreaking work
  • 38:48
    that this is taking from every
  • 38:50
    marginalized person in this room it has
  • 38:52
    been hard
  • 38:53
    I spent my lunch break working with the
  • 38:58
    marshals to organize through space for
  • 39:01
    us to center ground and process the harm
  • 39:05
    that has been done this weekend whether
  • 39:06
    it's accidental or not we need some
  • 39:08
    space and time to do that I want to
  • 39:10
    invite the marginalized people in this
  • 39:12
    room to meet me after we adjourn at five
  • 39:16
    in Augusta II it's on this floor just
  • 39:18
    directly across the hall so we can take
  • 39:21
    spend some time in community just
  • 39:23
    processing so that we can go out and
  • 39:25
    continue to organize with each other
  • 39:26
    thank you so much for your time he's a
  • 39:31
    number two you just didn't um yourself
  • 39:35
    my man bad I gotta pay attention to you
  • 39:44
    comrade now so this necessarily leads to
  • 39:49
    this back and forth which is the
  • 39:52
    marginalize marshals point of
  • 39:54
    information or clarity are they're
  • 39:57
    marginalized marshals or they all like I
  • 40:01
    guess I want to know how many
  • 40:02
    marginalized folks are represented by a
  • 40:04
    marshal I don't know that I'm
  • 40:06
    necessarily comfortable answering that
  • 40:08
    question
  • 40:10
    especially since many identities are
  • 40:13
    invisible right I understand I just my
  • 40:16
    main concern is not being represented in
  • 40:19
    having yeah I understand I think the
  • 40:22
    best we can do is try and have a fair
  • 40:24
    system where there's the second person
  • 40:26
    to settle disputes and I just really
  • 40:28
    encourage people as much as possible
  • 40:30
    please respect our marshals it's a very
  • 40:32
    thankless task and they are very very
  • 40:36
    critical to this operation we have going
  • 40:38
    on right here
  • 40:39
    now what would okay I'm gonna I'm gonna
  • 40:44
    take over here because I got some other
  • 40:46
    stuff that relates to this that happened
  • 40:49
    that I think is important to find out or
  • 40:51
    to hear about first let's let's really
  • 40:54
    talk about these are social justice
  • 40:56
    warriors these are not socialists I grew
  • 40:58
    up in a socialist country in the
  • 41:01
    Netherlands when it was truly really
  • 41:03
    socialist with 90 percent income tax
  • 41:05
    personal income tax you know the whole
  • 41:08
    deal
  • 41:09
    I've lived in three different socialist
  • 41:11
    countries this has nothing to do with
  • 41:13
    how socialism works socialism has
  • 41:15
    leaders and they tell you to shut the
  • 41:17
    fuck up and I've seen it and that's how
  • 41:19
    it's lived this isn't this has nothing
  • 41:21
    to do with socialism that in fact all
  • 41:24
    this was this entire conference was
  • 41:27
    fundraising every speaker at the end we
  • 41:30
    have envelopes and this people they
  • 41:32
    couldn't they were embarrassed to use
  • 41:34
    the word square because they had square
  • 41:36
    credit card processing so they always
  • 41:39
    yes the square thing is whatever you can
  • 41:41
    donate we need your money comrade we
  • 41:43
    need to fund this we need to it was all
  • 41:45
    about getting money and they raised over
  • 41:48
    $100,000 at this conference all about
  • 41:51
    getting money for their organization and
  • 41:53
    the rest was just social justice warrior
  • 41:56
    bullcrap let's let's listen to the guy
  • 41:59
    who wasn't reparent Lee in charge of
  • 42:01
    security or order and making things go
  • 42:04
    well and he talked about this ASL
  • 42:07
    American Sign Language hand waving and
  • 42:10
    more first of all in this room I see
  • 42:13
    that no one's clapping for me it could
  • 42:15
    be because I'm not engaging but it also
  • 42:17
    is because everyone's doing this and
  • 42:18
    that's really important because those
  • 42:20
    loud bursts of noise even though this is
  • 42:22
    an
  • 42:22
    space when we can do something like
  • 42:25
    reducing that that's really important so
  • 42:27
    please don't clap shoot up these and
  • 42:29
    additionally with the the noise issue
  • 42:31
    like avoid hissing avoid waving banners
  • 42:34
    right if you don't know what to do show
  • 42:36
    up these right I'm sure there's lots of
  • 42:38
    ways that we can communicate to each
  • 42:39
    other without needing to rely on
  • 42:41
    something that's going to hurt somebody
  • 42:43
    else we have quiet rooms that are
  • 42:45
    available there's a range of options of
  • 42:47
    these right on seven there's one that
  • 42:49
    has video but no sound if you still want
  • 42:52
    to be able to observe the convention but
  • 42:54
    the sound is a shoe there's also on
  • 42:56
    Piedmont 8 a completely quiet room one
  • 42:58
    thing to note there please don't go into
  • 43:00
    that space with anything that's like an
  • 43:02
    aggressive scent for instance right
  • 43:04
    because that's going to be difficult for
  • 43:06
    people the principle of collective
  • 43:07
    Security's we don't want to put people
  • 43:09
    in stressful situations that they don't
  • 43:12
    consent to right and we have to be
  • 43:13
    accountable to each other that our
  • 43:15
    actions might have negative consequences
  • 43:18
    for other people if you we are also
  • 43:20
    talking about de-escalation right right
  • 43:22
    because people are gonna have different
  • 43:24
    experiences of things that some others
  • 43:27
    might think is normal heated 'no sand i
  • 43:28
    think and some that there's an
  • 43:30
    inevitability there but it's going to be
  • 43:32
    really traumatic for people if we're not
  • 43:33
    making an affirmative effort to
  • 43:36
    de-escalate each other and deescalate
  • 43:38
    ourselves right do you want having a
  • 43:40
    conflict with somebody feel free to step
  • 43:42
    away right we're gonna make sure that
  • 43:44
    you can get out of that space let
  • 43:46
    somebody else step away if they need to
  • 43:48
    step away right don't talk to cops don't
  • 43:52
    talk to mega assholes we're almost there
  • 43:57
    yes very lovely there's just all just
  • 44:01
    lovey-dovey and everyone's comrades and
  • 44:03
    don't talk to mcih assholes don't talk
  • 44:05
    to cops and don't smell bad don't wear
  • 44:08
    horrible perfume or just don't smell bad
  • 44:10
    in this line a second you've made an
  • 44:13
    observation that i'm gonna take to the
  • 44:15
    next level which is this was just a
  • 44:18
    fundraiser yes this is a fundraiser for
  • 44:21
    people that are marginalized nobody has
  • 44:24
    exploited them before in other words the
  • 44:26
    autistic the people that can't you don't
  • 44:29
    want to smell anything it's a new source
  • 44:31
    of revenue to people that do your clap
  • 44:34
    and your drug job and they
  • 44:36
    because they don't like any noises that
  • 44:37
    also to go into the silent room these
  • 44:39
    are people that are here in all sorts of
  • 44:42
    weird ways and they have not been
  • 44:45
    exploited for money well it happened at
  • 44:48
    this conference for sure and you know
  • 44:51
    people inherently feel that that's going
  • 44:53
    on and then all their trigger mechanisms
  • 44:55
    go into overdrive we are going to need a
  • 44:57
    party that will organize working people
  • 45:00
    to fight for the demands that we want
  • 45:01
    and to win socialism thank you so much
  • 45:07
    guys first of all Jena now this this
  • 45:11
    gentleman he him makes a big mistake
  • 45:14
    here by saying guys he has a different
  • 45:18
    point but he starts off by saying guys
  • 45:20
    big mistake guys first of all James
  • 45:25
    Jackson Sacramento he him I just want to
  • 45:28
    say can we please keep the chatter to a
  • 45:30
    minimum I'm one of the people who's very
  • 45:31
    very prone to sensory overload there's a
  • 45:34
    lot of whispering and chatter going on
  • 45:35
    it's making it very difficult for me to
  • 45:36
    focus please can we just
  • 45:38
    I know it's we're all fresh and ready to
  • 45:40
    go but can we please just keep the
  • 45:41
    chatter to a minimum it's affecting my
  • 45:42
    ability to focus thank you Thank You
  • 45:44
    comrade okay is there a speaker against
  • 45:47
    name point of personal privilege yes
  • 45:50
    please do not use gendered language took
  • 45:54
    to address everyone I know what you were
  • 46:03
    angling for but this this point of
  • 46:06
    personal privilege point of information
  • 46:08
    point of debate you can interrupt the
  • 46:10
    speaker at any time as long as long as
  • 46:12
    you say a point of something are there
  • 46:15
    is there any further debate on the
  • 46:17
    credentials committee report point how
  • 46:21
    important point of order yep thank you
  • 46:23
    so sorry what's your name in my name is
  • 46:26
    Trey
  • 46:26
    I used a them and he/him pronouns I'm
  • 46:31
    from Memphis thank you for asking nice
  • 46:34
    to meet you sorry
  • 46:37
    I had a question so Nick Jack what is
  • 46:43
    his name or what if there's a name Nick
  • 46:45
    J they were elected as an antlered
  • 46:49
    delegate but what you're hearing here is
  • 46:52
    what they spent five hours on he's
  • 46:54
    voting on voting on all kinds of stupid
  • 46:57
    useless stuff that got nowhere because
  • 47:00
    everyone kept interrupting with their
  • 47:02
    point of personal privilege issues were
  • 47:04
    they resigned
  • 47:05
    is that correct Joe no okay then never
  • 47:10
    mind now we're going to point of
  • 47:13
    information could you please let us know
  • 47:15
    how many delegates there are so they
  • 47:18
    didn't even know how many delegates were
  • 47:19
    there while they're voting I believe
  • 47:27
    1,057 thank you great awesome and now
  • 47:30
    we're going to move on to the
  • 47:33
    resolutions very brief very brief point
  • 47:37
    of information if you are using a
  • 47:39
    microphone talk into it directly like I
  • 47:41
    am right now and do not wave your face
  • 47:43
    back and forth because people cannot
  • 47:45
    hear you this is the way to say it from
  • 47:49
    now on do not wave your face back and
  • 47:52
    forth we can't hear you at the back of
  • 47:54
    the room anyway they got in a big
  • 47:57
    argument the voting wasn't done properly
  • 47:59
    they would tried to vote online that was
  • 48:02
    I'm gonna skip all these clips they're
  • 48:04
    in the show notes if you want to listen
  • 48:05
    to them then someone said point of
  • 48:07
    debate the by laws don't allow online
  • 48:09
    voting it just went on and on and on and
  • 48:12
    on because these are not socialists
  • 48:14
    these are social justice warriors who
  • 48:16
    put on an old army jacket that damaged
  • 48:19
    they are damaged that they have lots of
  • 48:22
    issues not underplaying or discounting
  • 48:24
    their issues but you're right they were
  • 48:25
    there to be exploited and all of a
  • 48:28
    sudden the last hour well that changed
  • 48:33
    everything the real socialists came in
  • 48:35
    from Germany from Austria from Japan and
  • 48:41
    from Brooklyn one interesting one and
  • 48:45
    they they would just a gas with what
  • 48:48
    they had seen they were totally and they
  • 48:50
    and they said it to here and and mind
  • 48:53
    you when the real socialists came in in
  • 48:57
    the last hour
  • 48:58
    there was no twinkling no american sign
  • 49:00
    language people were Hootin and Hollerin
  • 49:02
    no interruptions point of personal
  • 49:04
    privilege I can't stand the noise it's
  • 49:06
    triggering none of that it was just
  • 49:08
    hooting and hollering because this is
  • 49:10
    what this is the real Socialists who
  • 49:12
    came in and they had a message for this
  • 49:14
    group of misfits this is the German
  • 49:18
    socialists following your Congress I
  • 49:20
    have to say something you've got
  • 49:22
    everything to have success so you are
  • 49:26
    smart you have got passion you treat
  • 49:29
    each other fairly most of the time and
  • 49:34
    you got the momentum so please stay
  • 49:38
    together I know that parties sometimes
  • 49:41
    have growing pains but go forward make
  • 49:46
    it productive and please avoid the
  • 49:49
    sickness of the left and that's the
  • 49:51
    splitting we have several examples of
  • 49:54
    that in in Europe and don't do that
  • 49:57
    don't because they saw it these guys saw
  • 50:01
    what was going on and like hey don't do
  • 50:03
    that don't do that here don't do that
  • 50:05
    and and as I'm from Germany it's my duty
  • 50:10
    to say very loud and clear
  • 50:13
    anti-fascism is no crime it's the
  • 50:16
    opposite anti-fascism is a duty to all
  • 50:20
    Democrats and we all together we are
  • 50:23
    anti-fascist we are going to the streets
  • 50:26
    and campaigning together for artificial
  • 50:29
    democratic and social society and if we
  • 50:32
    will not do that nobody will do the job
  • 50:35
    so our responsibility grew and let's go
  • 50:38
    on forward and dear comrades I'm so
  • 50:41
    happy to be here thank you very much
  • 50:44
    so coming here to incite violence on our
  • 50:47
    streets by saying an tyfa is good it's
  • 50:50
    good to be a anti-fascist take it to the
  • 50:54
    streets yeah this guy is you know these
  • 50:58
    are the people who are really
  • 50:59
    problematic and you hear the the hoot
  • 51:01
    and the hollering no ones no one's
  • 51:03
    getting it they're all hooting in
  • 51:05
    Holland because they're LARPing children
  • 51:08
    they have no idea what this so there's
  • 51:12
    an issue I want to mention so when I was
  • 51:14
    in high school I was one of the lucky /
  • 51:17
    unlucky appointees to the Model UN one
  • 51:22
    of those kids that was in the Model UN
  • 51:24
    they have this around orange robe
  • 51:26
    literally arm how interesting oh yeah
  • 51:27
    absolutely and so the model you our mock
  • 51:31
    you in I think was also called by this
  • 51:32
    is the Model UN and they every school
  • 51:35
    got to send two representatives as
  • 51:37
    though it was a country to the mock the
  • 51:40
    Model UN and I think it was in Berkeley
  • 51:42
    they had it of course that one of the
  • 51:45
    big auditoriums at Cal and so we all
  • 51:48
    went there and stayed in the hotel they
  • 51:49
    put us up in a hotel in downtown
  • 51:51
    Berkeley and me and if I've pal was Bill
  • 51:55
    Katie we ended up spending most of our
  • 51:57
    time tossing toilet paper rolls out the
  • 51:59
    window to see if they would unravel and
  • 52:01
    make a streamer but during the Model UN
  • 52:04
    you learned Robert's Rules of Order
  • 52:06
    which have all these points of order
  • 52:08
    points of information points at this
  • 52:10
    point at that points at this points of
  • 52:11
    that and there's a route there's a
  • 52:13
    relatively maybe there's about 12 of
  • 52:16
    them but in that event that you were
  • 52:18
    listening to they had they were making
  • 52:20
    some up I mean there was there was no
  • 52:22
    but there's no such thing as being a
  • 52:23
    point of cliche or whatever was one
  • 52:25
    point of personal privilege no point of
  • 52:28
    personal privilege is one of them
  • 52:29
    pointless debate point of information
  • 52:31
    that's one of them I think it was point
  • 52:35
    of debate or something they said that
  • 52:36
    was not one of them but all those other
  • 52:38
    was a point of orders the main when
  • 52:40
    point of information pointed to point of
  • 52:42
    personal privilege those are all real
  • 52:44
    and so when you went to this thing it
  • 52:46
    was a big UN's assembly and it had you
  • 52:48
    had little signage and you sat there
  • 52:49
    like like one of those UN ambassadors
  • 52:52
    and you and they I don't know what they
  • 52:54
    accomplished I do know that it kind of
  • 52:58
    childish in the way that we just
  • 53:00
    witnessed with the DSA it was a lot of
  • 53:03
    point at this point of that everyone's
  • 53:05
    trying to show off that they know the
  • 53:06
    rules and so they wanted to say
  • 53:08
    something we didn't have the pronoun
  • 53:10
    thing obviously but it was in it that's
  • 53:13
    what I was reminded of I was reminded of
  • 53:15
    kind of a high school group you know
  • 53:18
    trying to you know figure out the world
  • 53:21
    and they're up there in some fake
  • 53:23
    meeting it was it was borderline
  • 53:25
    pathetic and so who shows up at the end
  • 53:29
    to shame these people into these these
  • 53:34
    sad people into giving their money to
  • 53:37
    the Socialist Party is the head
  • 53:40
    muckety-muck of the DSA although maybe
  • 53:42
    not in by title Linda Sarsour our
  • 53:46
    favorite muslimah from Brooklyn and she
  • 53:50
    gave them an earful about how they were
  • 53:53
    doing it wrong and they need to pony up
  • 53:56
    and she also interesting refers to their
  • 54:00
    national political committee vote which
  • 54:02
    has the fun acronym NPC I just couldn't
  • 54:06
    get past the irony of that listen to
  • 54:09
    Linda Sarsour wrapping up this
  • 54:11
    Democratic Socialist of America
  • 54:14
    conference and the question that DSA
  • 54:16
    needs to ask themselves is who do you
  • 54:18
    want to be what are you trying to do in
  • 54:20
    this moment what kind of story do you
  • 54:23
    want to be told about dear by the way
  • 54:26
    speak of milieu who does she sound like
  • 54:29
    to you
  • 54:31
    I'm not getting it right away well Wanda
  • 54:34
    Sykes she sounds just like Wanda Sykes
  • 54:38
    the comedial that's interesting have a
  • 54:41
    listen and the question that DSA needs
  • 54:43
    to ask themselves is who do you want to
  • 54:45
    be what are you trying to do in this
  • 54:47
    moment what kind of story do you want to
  • 54:51
    be told about DSA forty years from now
  • 54:54
    if you are here because DSA is supposed
  • 54:57
    to be making you feel comfortable you're
  • 55:00
    in the wrong place
  • 55:01
    if you are here to tell DSA you need to
  • 55:04
    do these 17,000 899 things to make me
  • 55:08
    feel good this is not the organization
  • 55:10
    for you if you are in DSA to take one
  • 55:13
    collective liberation movement to divide
  • 55:15
    it up into things that make you feel
  • 55:17
    comfortable this is not the organization
  • 55:19
    please there are people who are counting
  • 55:22
    on us literally there are people whose
  • 55:27
    lives depend on us building a political
  • 55:29
    movement that is centered on values and
  • 55:31
    principles and the most broken and
  • 55:33
    marginalized people in this country so
  • 55:37
    freedom in this country is not free it's
  • 55:41
    just not so if you think that you're
  • 55:44
    gonna talk to me about capitalism and we
  • 55:46
    gotta smash the patriarchy and capital I
  • 55:48
    get that got a do pattern attracts cuz
  • 55:51
    you live in a capitalist nation right
  • 55:52
    now I'm sorry to break it to you right
  • 55:55
    now and in order for us to build a
  • 55:57
    sustainable movement that is worthy to
  • 56:00
    the people we are fighting for we gotta
  • 56:02
    get our finances together we need money
  • 56:05
    to build this movement right some of you
  • 56:08
    may be like well I got a lot of time on
  • 56:10
    my hands I can come and volunteer not
  • 56:11
    everybody has that time so don't be all
  • 56:14
    about you and your I don't like this I
  • 56:17
    don't like that I don't feel it's not
  • 56:19
    about you it really is not about you
  • 56:23
    tonight when you're voting tonight on
  • 56:26
    NPC members you vote for the most
  • 56:29
    qualified people the most compassionate
  • 56:31
    people the most passionate people it's
  • 56:35
    not about who you like and who's in
  • 56:37
    another faction who's in another caucus
  • 56:38
    it's not about that and if that's what
  • 56:41
    you're gonna do tonight then you're
  • 56:42
    proving to marginalize people all over
  • 56:44
    this country
  • 56:45
    that you don't give a damn about the
  • 56:47
    most broken people you only care about
  • 56:49
    yourself and what you believe in what
  • 56:50
    you think so there it is that's the
  • 56:52
    message give us your money you
  • 56:55
    marginalized poor people you're no good
  • 56:58
    and shut up about your problems give us
  • 57:01
    your money
  • 57:02
    and I think this Linda Sarsour she's the
  • 57:05
    one to keep your eye on you know we had
  • 57:07
    the bike we've been keeping our eye on
  • 57:09
    her she's horrible I will mention
  • 57:11
    something though it's not a bad idea in
  • 57:14
    terms of in terms of their approach more
  • 57:18
    thinking about what explaining these
  • 57:20
    poor marginalized people which is
  • 57:22
    exactly what this is it's not many of
  • 57:27
    them have such a weird self-esteem issue
  • 57:30
    it's not like they have low self-esteem
  • 57:32
    or high self-esteem they have a an
  • 57:34
    unusual self-esteem because they have
  • 57:36
    they many of them are they them's and
  • 57:39
    they're and they're there n B's and
  • 57:41
    they're non binaries and they're there
  • 57:45
    they're been poisoned by this by the
  • 57:48
    food supply I don't know what what
  • 57:50
    happened to half of them and there's a
  • 57:51
    lot of weird autistic ones there that
  • 57:53
    are seem functional but they're high
  • 57:55
    functional there's as they call
  • 57:57
    themselves they generally may be
  • 58:00
    susceptible to because they've this is
  • 58:03
    like an insurance salesman I'm listening
  • 58:05
    to these different clips and you have
  • 58:08
    different approaches let me try this
  • 58:10
    approach and see if I can shake some
  • 58:13
    money out of these people let me try
  • 58:14
    that approach and let's see if I can
  • 58:16
    shake some money out of these people the
  • 58:17
    the Sarsour approach is they they have
  • 58:20
    low self-esteem let me tell them what
  • 58:23
    they already know and condemned them and
  • 58:27
    telling it their shit is what she did
  • 58:30
    exactly shit that was a very terrible
  • 58:32
    thing she did she said you are you are
  • 58:34
    shit give us your money let me write
  • 58:39
    this down I'm gonna see if we can try
  • 58:41
    that in our newsletter won't have that
  • 58:46
    many people that are that that that that
  • 58:50
    necessitate that sort of thing but I've
  • 58:52
    I was at one time it was a sales guy
  • 58:55
    that took a liking to me because he
  • 58:57
    couldn't sell me anything so he he was
  • 59:00
    insurance guys when I was in college and
  • 59:02
    I have pretty decent not great sales
  • 59:07
    resistance and I've run into people that
  • 59:09
    I can't write there's no way I'm gonna
  • 59:11
    get out of it I just okay I'm out of
  • 59:13
    here
  • 59:13
    whatever you
  • 59:15
    but most feel like an resist and then if
  • 59:17
    you go to the Middle East and deal with
  • 59:19
    some of these these Arab and Lebanese
  • 59:22
    and some of these sales guys you just
  • 59:24
    great
  • 59:25
    generally speaking you're not gonna lose
  • 59:27
    a lot of money but you got to pay up
  • 59:32
    most American Western sales guys you
  • 59:36
    know they have all these tricks and they
  • 59:37
    go from one to the other to the other
  • 59:39
    and this guy went through the entire
  • 59:41
    litany and he kind of ended with this
  • 59:43
    condemning type of sales pitch and he
  • 59:48
    never could get break me I and so
  • 59:50
    eventually he says you know I like you I
  • 59:54
    need you bought me a cup of coffee and
  • 59:56
    that was the end of it but which I
  • 59:57
    thought was a personal victory victory
  • 59:59
    for you I had I had a similar situation
  • 1:00:02
    just recently when I took my car over to
  • 1:00:04
    get it washed at this place I kept
  • 1:00:06
    seeing this in Marin County it's a
  • 1:00:08
    washing place I saw up on the other side
  • 1:00:10
    of the Richardson bay bridge and it is
  • 1:00:13
    theirs with cars out there and there
  • 1:00:15
    were scrubbing them down there just like
  • 1:00:16
    a hand wash that has a machine
  • 1:00:19
    augmentation and you go I say I gotta
  • 1:00:21
    get my car wash there go in there the
  • 1:00:22
    guy has a sales pitch for for this $500
  • 1:00:28
    worth a thousand and wax job where they
  • 1:00:32
    wax your car this other stuff on they
  • 1:00:34
    put this other stuff on and they put
  • 1:00:35
    this other stuff on it and so I gotta
  • 1:00:37
    tell the story if you don't my weight
  • 1:00:39
    can I can I just guess the ending did
  • 1:00:41
    your 25 year old Lexus come out looking
  • 1:00:43
    like a 20-19 model I never bought into
  • 1:00:46
    it because I luckily did not have any I
  • 1:00:48
    just was gonna go to the paid cash for a
  • 1:00:50
    thing and I didn't have 500 bucks in
  • 1:00:52
    cash and that's what was that was my out
  • 1:00:54
    it was great I would love to do this I
  • 1:00:58
    will come back and do this later
  • 1:01:00
    but I only have sixty dollars in cash
  • 1:01:03
    and so I got to get a gas gas filled and
  • 1:01:06
    I got to get a wash okay he finally gave
  • 1:01:08
    up realizing I was telling the truth but
  • 1:01:11
    but one of the things he did was hit the
  • 1:01:14
    back of the of the car he had us half of
  • 1:01:16
    the of the trunk area
  • 1:01:18
    he had topology Paulson Poston pause and
  • 1:01:20
    then he did that he did a whole little
  • 1:01:22
    section he's to feel that feel that in
  • 1:01:23
    you felt it was really smooth and clean
  • 1:01:25
    it was like wow yeah that's great he
  • 1:01:28
    the whole car be like yeah I don't only
  • 1:01:29
    got 60 bucks okay so I go through a
  • 1:01:31
    comes through the washing machine comes
  • 1:01:33
    out the other and they wipe it down and
  • 1:01:35
    do all what they do which is kind of
  • 1:01:36
    interesting in itself and then I go and
  • 1:01:39
    I see first aid as I check that area it
  • 1:01:41
    was no different than the rest of the
  • 1:01:44
    car Wow
  • 1:01:47
    close call John all right shut your shit
  • 1:01:52
    give us your money the final two clips
  • 1:01:55
    now this was a real Socialist member of
  • 1:01:59
    the DSA DSA Austin in fact I think he
  • 1:02:04
    may even be the president now of the
  • 1:02:06
    Democratic Socialist of Austin they're
  • 1:02:08
    about eight hundred members strong and I
  • 1:02:10
    wanted to play these two clips because
  • 1:02:12
    this is well the first one is what the
  • 1:02:15
    claim is that the DSA has done today for
  • 1:02:18
    you in the American political system
  • 1:02:20
    since our last convention in 2017 DSA
  • 1:02:23
    members have been critical to the
  • 1:02:25
    ongoing teachers strike wave to the
  • 1:02:28
    election of class struggle candidates
  • 1:02:30
    like Alexandra Ocasio Cortes and we've
  • 1:02:33
    made Medicare for all the most important
  • 1:02:35
    issue of the 2020 national primaries
  • 1:02:40
    that notice no no triggering their
  • 1:02:44
    twinkling so they so the claim is that
  • 1:02:47
    they're the ones that put Medicare for
  • 1:02:49
    all up front in the in the political
  • 1:02:52
    conversation I don't think that's true I
  • 1:02:54
    know it's not true the hoop who did that
  • 1:02:57
    then anybody but them in Austin we've
  • 1:03:02
    organised to win a city council
  • 1:03:03
    ordinance for paid sick leave for
  • 1:03:05
    hundreds of thousands of workers that's
  • 1:03:07
    true we also organize to win a long
  • 1:03:10
    fought campaign that forced Congressman
  • 1:03:12
    lloyd Doggett a millionaire Democrat to
  • 1:03:15
    sign on to the Medicare for all bill
  • 1:03:17
    pressure done so much more political
  • 1:03:19
    education canvassing for a green new
  • 1:03:22
    deal standing in solidarity with
  • 1:03:24
    organized labor and beyond
  • 1:03:26
    and now the chair of our health justice
  • 1:03:28
    committee Heidi Sloan is running for
  • 1:03:30
    Congress as a Democratic Socialist in
  • 1:03:32
    Texas
  • 1:03:34
    good one so the the thing that got me
  • 1:03:38
    though is his description of why he
  • 1:03:40
    joined the DSA but mind you he's wearing
  • 1:03:42
    a Bernese Bernie Sanders sweatshirt so
  • 1:03:46
    this is a Bernie guy and I think this is
  • 1:03:48
    where Bernie is going to get a lot of
  • 1:03:49
    leverage from from people of voting age
  • 1:03:52
    marginalized as they may be but listen
  • 1:03:55
    cuz I think kids can identify with this
  • 1:03:57
    message you didn't hear this throughout
  • 1:03:58
    the entire conference except this one
  • 1:04:00
    time my life was very different before I
  • 1:04:03
    joined ESA as I was becoming a socialist
  • 1:04:05
    I didn't know how to cope with my
  • 1:04:08
    recognition of all the problems in
  • 1:04:10
    society problems that directly affect my
  • 1:04:13
    life and those of my friends rent is too
  • 1:04:15
    damn high
  • 1:04:16
    we couldn't get jobs or jobs with
  • 1:04:18
    benefits and global warming was making
  • 1:04:21
    Texas summers even more miserable in the
  • 1:04:23
    short term and dooming humanity maybe
  • 1:04:26
    even the capitalist class in the long
  • 1:04:28
    term my friends also didn't know how to
  • 1:04:30
    cope with these problems or with my
  • 1:04:32
    constant bickering and agitating about
  • 1:04:34
    them I was becoming frustrated with my
  • 1:04:37
    newfound ability to see the problems of
  • 1:04:39
    the world alongside what I felt was my
  • 1:04:42
    inability to do anything about it
  • 1:04:44
    as someone who was broke and thought
  • 1:04:46
    about every single penny this was a big
  • 1:04:48
    deal to me
  • 1:04:49
    but it also wasn't a big deal to the
  • 1:04:52
    table and that's what was important
  • 1:04:54
    because it meant that everyone had what
  • 1:04:56
    they needed to fully participate without
  • 1:04:58
    the distractions of just getting by in
  • 1:05:00
    society by relieving some of the burdens
  • 1:05:03
    that capitalism puts on us we were able
  • 1:05:06
    to devote our energy toward organizing
  • 1:05:08
    together this was so radically different
  • 1:05:10
    than the life I was used to with my
  • 1:05:12
    friends we had a culture of invent
  • 1:05:15
    moming each other for every slice of
  • 1:05:17
    pizza or six-pack of beer and it
  • 1:05:19
    fostered mistrust questioning and shame
  • 1:05:23
    but here someone who could do so just
  • 1:05:27
    got coffee and snacks for everyone and
  • 1:05:28
    we proceeded to have a productive
  • 1:05:30
    meeting what do you know before I knew
  • 1:05:32
    it I was spending 30 hours a week on DSA
  • 1:05:34
    and trying to build
  • 1:05:36
    now I think this is really telling
  • 1:05:38
    because this is what kids are witnessing
  • 1:05:41
    and I'm sure that there's frustration
  • 1:05:43
    and mistrust and distrust with this you
  • 1:05:46
    know splitting up bills a thousand ways
  • 1:05:48
    ven mowing money back and forth I can
  • 1:05:50
    see where kids get disillusioned by that
  • 1:05:53
    and they also just want free food and so
  • 1:05:55
    when you show up with free food then you
  • 1:05:58
    can reel them in it's very weak they're
  • 1:06:02
    very easy to get so that should be noted
  • 1:06:07
    I think we've noted it uh this has been
  • 1:06:12
    my constant complaint about the fact you
  • 1:06:15
    can't get a summer job anymore yep I
  • 1:06:17
    mean when I was a kid hmm I was working
  • 1:06:21
    summer jobs when I was fifteen you had
  • 1:06:22
    to get a work permit if you're under
  • 1:06:24
    some yeah under 16 but at fifteen if you
  • 1:06:28
    got this permit hey you'll get it we
  • 1:06:30
    didn't work during the summer so you'd
  • 1:06:31
    make money or we there were paperboy
  • 1:06:34
    routes I used to have one of those two
  • 1:06:35
    of them actually and you could make
  • 1:06:37
    money that way there's no such thing
  • 1:06:39
    anymore and it was actually taken over
  • 1:06:41
    by people and driving around in cars if
  • 1:06:45
    it even exists the whole thing has been
  • 1:06:48
    structured over time to like eliminate
  • 1:06:51
    all these jobs I think that the movement
  • 1:06:54
    towards shoring and sending stuff to
  • 1:06:58
    China I think has a lot to do with it
  • 1:07:00
    which Trump has been trying to correct
  • 1:07:02
    which is good for him but nobody that's
  • 1:07:05
    nobody cares about that so they're just
  • 1:07:07
    bitching and moaning about the fact that
  • 1:07:09
    it's a mess but the real causation of
  • 1:07:11
    this situation is never addressed it's
  • 1:07:14
    not addressed war was the causation
  • 1:07:15
    addressed to this work what are you
  • 1:07:17
    gonna do to fix the problem but just
  • 1:07:19
    become socialist and take everybody's
  • 1:07:21
    money and then rip off the the
  • 1:07:24
    marginalised I mean this is ridiculous
  • 1:07:26
    but okay that's what you feel
  • 1:07:30
    comfortable there kid so one final
  • 1:07:33
    thought / comment bring it back around
  • 1:07:36
    to these children who are going out
  • 1:07:42
    apparently allegedly shooting and
  • 1:07:44
    killing lots of people if these really
  • 1:07:46
    are the pictures I'm seeing
  • 1:07:48
    they look marginal
  • 1:07:49
    they look like they could be in the DSA
  • 1:07:52
    they look like everyone else there and I
  • 1:07:55
    noticed a an FBI statement regarding the
  • 1:08:00
    Dayton shooter the FBI for some reason
  • 1:08:04
    said well this kid have was really into
  • 1:08:09
    some certain ideologies and the
  • 1:08:12
    statement reads something along the
  • 1:08:14
    lines of we're looking into the here the
  • 1:08:17
    Dayton shooter was exploring violent
  • 1:08:20
    ideologies
  • 1:08:21
    what are these violent ideologies no
  • 1:08:24
    where did the FBI expand on that but I
  • 1:08:28
    did receive information noon knew shits
  • 1:08:32
    come to light men from our producers
  • 1:08:35
    several people pointed me in the
  • 1:08:37
    direction of the Bronze Age mindset
  • 1:08:41
    which I'd never heard of I presume
  • 1:08:43
    you've not heard of either and it is a
  • 1:08:46
    book which you can get on Amazon slash
  • 1:08:49
    I'd say almost manifesto about ninety
  • 1:08:52
    eight pages written by someone who calls
  • 1:08:55
    himself the Bronze Age pervert he does
  • 1:08:58
    have a following at tens of thousands on
  • 1:09:00
    on Twitter
  • 1:09:01
    very odd I've read through this entire
  • 1:09:04
    thing I don't want to jump into it today
  • 1:09:06
    because I need a lot more parsing I mean
  • 1:09:08
    this could be a joke by itself I mean I
  • 1:09:11
    don't even know if this is real it seems
  • 1:09:13
    like it is but this bronze Bronze Age
  • 1:09:16
    mindset a lot of the tropes in this book
  • 1:09:19
    return and are spelled out literally
  • 1:09:23
    right down to the we need to split up
  • 1:09:25
    America into States based on race or
  • 1:09:28
    culture or background is from this book
  • 1:09:31
    so that's what was in the El Paso a
  • 1:09:34
    manifesto it was what's written in
  • 1:09:36
    Christchurch manifesto it is possible
  • 1:09:41
    there is an ideology that some of these
  • 1:09:43
    children are latching onto and it is
  • 1:09:47
    very nee last nihilist very much like
  • 1:09:52
    there's nothing else I can do except
  • 1:09:55
    these five things and standing up like a
  • 1:09:59
    so-called man is one of them
  • 1:10:02
    and I see how it can play into people
  • 1:10:06
    like this so uh Sunday I'll I'll dive
  • 1:10:10
    deep into that because it's fascinating
  • 1:10:12
    if true you hadn't heard of it I presume
  • 1:10:16
    no but I'm looking at the guise of the
  • 1:10:19
    Bruns Bronze Age perverts Twitter page
  • 1:10:23
    where he's got 20,000 followers which is
  • 1:10:25
    not that many and his borderline satire
  • 1:10:30
    this is why I'm not entirely all
  • 1:10:33
    multiple people have sent this to me and
  • 1:10:35
    said this is what a lot of millennial
  • 1:10:39
    anons are into these days he has a
  • 1:10:42
    podcast too which is even worse than the
  • 1:10:44
    Twitter feed I mean I can't even it's
  • 1:10:46
    like some Caribbean type accent he says
  • 1:10:49
    he's broadcasting from Suriname you know
  • 1:10:52
    I don't know I really don't know but
  • 1:10:56
    there it is possible that there are
  • 1:10:58
    other ideologies out there which could
  • 1:11:01
    just be a hijack of kids minds it could
  • 1:11:04
    be for all I know a programming project
  • 1:11:07
    and then you know you look no matter
  • 1:11:09
    what it is you add some pharmaceuticals
  • 1:11:11
    to the to the mix and you got danger on
  • 1:11:13
    your hand that's the that's that'll wrap
  • 1:11:15
    it up for me because that's what no one
  • 1:11:16
    is talking about and why would we well
  • 1:11:20
    oh yes no I will I will do one more the
  • 1:11:24
    reason why we never will let us go to
  • 1:11:27
    Anderson Cooper from the previous
  • 1:11:29
    podcast this was what he claimed they
  • 1:11:33
    putting out a blanket tweet when in the
  • 1:11:34
    wake you know on the day somebody has
  • 1:11:36
    died implying that they were on
  • 1:11:39
    antidepressants and that's what caused
  • 1:11:41
    their suicide
  • 1:11:42
    that just seems irresponsible well
  • 1:11:44
    Anderson I could say the same thing to
  • 1:11:46
    you given how many pharmaceutical
  • 1:11:47
    companies advertise on your show not
  • 1:11:57
    impacted by who advertises on my show I
  • 1:11:59
    don't know revenues on my show it's not
  • 1:12:01
    any interest to me I'm sure it is to
  • 1:12:03
    people in this company but I don't care
  • 1:12:05
    what I care about is people who are
  • 1:12:08
    dying and there's a stigma for people
  • 1:12:10
    actually seeking medical help for
  • 1:12:12
    something that could save their life
  • 1:12:15
    and you know and I think it's important
  • 1:12:18
    so so two things yeah you Scott yeah I
  • 1:12:21
    know he says it saved my life yeah we
  • 1:12:24
    didn't hear that the first time did we
  • 1:12:26
    no I didn't and yeah it saved his life
  • 1:12:30
    so the antidepressant saved his life but
  • 1:12:33
    still this is the problem with big
  • 1:12:36
    pharmaceutical so here's a guy who's
  • 1:12:37
    shilling for it because it saves his