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August 8th, 2019 • 3h 5m

1162: Thank You Comrade

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um um um Adam curry
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Jhansi Dvorak episode 11 60 town this is
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no agenda from northern Silicon Valley
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an area plagued with white supremacists
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I'm John Cena Bradley they're there too
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Oh everybody all these Democrats into
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Silicon Valley are all white
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supremacists turns out and what to
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evidence do you have of this I heard it
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I read it uh-huh
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the Canadians think so so do the Brits
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so does the rest of the world this has
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been is this quite the assault on the
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United States we are phenomenon we are
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the the biggest racial bunch of eight
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holes in the universe yeah that's
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unbelievable
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well it's worse than that what do you
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mean I've worse than Whitehall I mean
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what do you what do you mean what do I
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mean we've had this clip here it's funny
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you should mention anything cuz it I
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realized I don't know my glasses which I
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have to go get while you're playing this
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clip okay this is the MSNBC clip yes
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insanity
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yeah the insanity clip where not only is
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the internet facilitating the speed of
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radicalization but but our leader our
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our chief executive is seen as almost a
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mentor and a radicalize er and
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unfortunately today we did not hear what
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we needed to hear from that person that
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these extremists and unstable people
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look - he spoke in the in the passive
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voice in the collective voice we didn't
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hear first person from him we didn't
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hear I condemn white hate ideology we
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heard the nation must condemn it well
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the nation does condemn it but we didn't
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hear what we needed to hear so what
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happens is the extremists in turn
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what the president read off a script
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today as something he needed to say
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something he he didn't really want to
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say so
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the president's either getting really
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good advice and rejecting it or he's
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getting really bad advice
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and and I'll give you an example of that
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we have to understand the adversary and
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the threat we're dealing with and if we
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don't understand how they think we'll
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never understand how to counter them so
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it's little things and language and
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messaging that matters the president
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said that we will fly our flags at
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half-mast until August 8th that's 8 8
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now I'm not going to imply that he did
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this deliberately but I am using it as
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an example of the ignorance of the
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adversary that's being demonstrated by
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the White House the numbers 8 8 are very
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significant in neo-nazi and white
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supremacy movement why because the
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letter H is the eighth letter of the
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alphabet and to them the numbers 8 8
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together stand for Heil Hitler
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so we're gonna be raising the flag back
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up at dusk on 88 no one's thinking about
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this no one's no one's giving him the
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advice or he's rejecting the advice so
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understand your adversary is to counter
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the adversary I know you're keeping your
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options open there Frank but as chilling
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as that is to hear you're saying it is
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possible that someone who knows better
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is authoring or editing the words that
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show up and our read verbatim or are
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supposed to be read verbatim by the
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president you know I'm glad you he
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almost got the full clip and I'm glad
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you did that a lot of things
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particularly on conservative Twitter are
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being played without context and you
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even missed I think the context of what
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this is Frank what's his name
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but Nucci aware is an ex-fbi top dog
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well that's why it's important to have
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it in context most people didn't even
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have that much when they when they
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showed a clip of this guy talking it's
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just Oh Trump is ready setting the flag
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on a date Hitler eight eight eight H
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this guy is not by the way H H meant
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hail Hydra
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okay so the point is these are the
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Marvel fans out there will appreciate
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that and here we go on this guy is the
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former assistant director of the FBI and
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if we go back to the beginning of this
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interview it's a little more interesting
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than just although out of context on
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Twitter all you saw was this guy is
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crazy numerology but you had here that
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he's explaining hey wait a minute
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someone may be writing speeches for the
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President and he doesn't know what he's
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saying they may be slipping stuff in but
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it's a little bit worse than that
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because this guy made some predictions
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five days ago
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Frankfurt Guzzi the former FBI assistant
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director for counterintelligence wrote
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the following in an op-ed in The New
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York Times and we quote instinct and
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experience tell me we're headed for
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trouble in the form of white hate
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violence stoked by a racially divisive
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president she imagined that and the
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former FBI assistant director predicting
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violence from white supremacist five
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just five days before it happens on the
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sixth day a cycle perhaps it happens he
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has chosen a reelection strategy based
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on appealing to the kinds of hatred fear
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and ignorance that can lead to violence
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and once again tonight we have Frankfurt
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Lucy back on our broadcast Frank what
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were the signs and how do we know how to
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navigate this tomorrow and the next day
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this is this starts becoming the
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definition of terrorism when people
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develop anxiety about what should be
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free-flowing public places totally
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scripted between the two it was
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pathetically scripted and then and the
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fact that Williams or any normal
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journalist didn't push back on this h/h
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nonsense which is just a creation of
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maniacs is beyond me I mean it well it's
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not beyond me because MSNBC works you
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know like this is what they do they got
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these scripted segments and they go back
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and forth and they read the script very
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well but
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yeah yeah well you're associating it
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with the with the cycle and the
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terrorism malarkey and all the rest of
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it I'm just saying why does this guy
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predict something it happens five days
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later he shows up then he's talking all
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kinds of stuff like them he essentially
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says there may be people in and around
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the press in the White House and around
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the president who are true white
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supremacist Nazis who are slipping stuff
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in and to be fair the President did not
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mistake Dayton you know Dayton for
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Toledo that was in his teleprompter and
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I'm not sure how that got in there if
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you do Toledo white supremacist in 2015
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there was a huge neo-nazi clash in
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Toledo Ohio I'm not so sure he's
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completely off-base I'm yeah I'm not
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sure he's not off-base I don't know but
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I'll tell you there are provocateurs out
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there on in the left-wing media and
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they're doing a really good job and I
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have another example let me just do the
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second example this is another thing
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that Republican conservative Twitter
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lost their crap over and this is Nicole
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Wallace this is the clip that most
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people saw the last Republican president
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fought for thought and and and it's not
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an ideal that had 44 percent of Latino
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voters it was so politically powerful in
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inside the last for public
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administration President Obama used the
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power of the presidency to try to pass
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comprehensive immigration reform with
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the Latino community Latino leaders at
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the table you don't have a president you
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said talking about exterminating right
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Latinas what were you yelling what
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comprehensive immigration reform did
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Obama try to cash just listen to the
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clip and then you'll see what outside go
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on play you don't have a president as
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you said talking about exterminating
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Latino it's not it so you now have a
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president who's talking about
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exterminating Latinos of course we do
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that of course people lost their shit
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over this and she had to come up with
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some half-hearted apology about that she
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misspoke etc but if you really listen to
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what she says you know
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president as you said talking about
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exterminating right my Tina she says you
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now have a president as you said because
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this guy she's talking to Raul Rhys are
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you is who is on the editorial board of
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USA Today has no wikipedia page only
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BIOS on the internet about what he's
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done who he works for
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just he just shows up everywhere there's
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no background I'm telling you this guy
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is a provocateur because he indeed did
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put this in her head Nicole Wallace is a
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simpleton so she picked that up and used
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it stupidly but listen to this guy and
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with regard to the president's remarks
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sad to say I don't really see at this
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point anything he can do in words and
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actions throughout his presidency he's
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basically declared open season on
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Latinos because we are one of his
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favorite favorite targets and it's not
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just the language he used you know you
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mentioned calling Mexicans drug dealers
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and rapists when he came down the
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escalator that was day one then it
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escalated into attacks on Latino
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journalists it escalated into attacks on
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the so called as in his words the
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Mexican judge then he ramped it up again
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to the invasion the warning people of
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the caravan and works like infestation
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what do you do with an infestation with
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an infestation the natural lot the
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conclusion is to attempt an
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extermination so to me there's very
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little distinction between his inciting
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this violence and the fact that it is
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now happening because I you can hear
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this guy said it she referred back to
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him she's an idiot but this guy this
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guy's a spook or he's something he's
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some kind of provocateur and I have no
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other information about him other than
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he's on the USA Today editorial board
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which is concerning by itself saying
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these types of things so there is
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something going on a concerted push a
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real effort and they've we've abandoned
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everything now abandon it Russia
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everything else at the present now it's
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in the rotation so it's you know a boy
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in a band but but this seems to be the
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all-in way that they're all going and
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worse what really irks me is what the
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president said this is I mean this is
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really I have not seen it so bad in the
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United States as this and I pulled a
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couple of clips from his statement that
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he read off the teleprompter uninspired
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this is where he and if you can go back
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and look and you'll see that he is
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reading Toledo from the teleprompter in
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fact it even looks like for a moment he
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realizes that can't be right but he
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still reads it but What did he say the
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shooter in El Paso posted a manifesto
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online consumed by racist hate in one
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voice our nation must condemn racism
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bigotry and white supremacy these
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sinister ideologies must be defeated
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hate has no place in America hatred
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warps the mind ravages the heart and
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devours the soul so notice he's taking
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the manifesto at face value that this
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guy did it even though there is evidence
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to the contrary here is the owner of
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eight Qian where the manifesto so-called
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which we which we looked at in detail on
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the last show where the shooter uploaded
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that now a Chan is a weird it's
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basically a bulletin board we can post
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off and you can do that anonymously the
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guy who runs I think the servers are in
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the Philippines he makes his money by
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advertising on HN and of odd travel
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books which you know a sketchy travel
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books about weird stuff you can see in
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different countries I don't care but he
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made a statement about this being
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uploaded to hm first of all the old
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passive shooter posted on Instagram not
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eight ten later someone uploaded a
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manifesto however that manifesto was not
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uploaded by the Walmart shooter
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I don't know if he wrote it or not but
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it was not uploaded by the murderer that
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is clear and law enforcement was made
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aware of this before most people had
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even heard the horrific news by the way
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he put the the taps bugle under it
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that's just the the drama of how he
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wants to present this but notice he
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could know by eye Device Identifier zai
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P addresses it's a tree said whoever
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uploaded that manifesto it wasn't the
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guy who was posting on a chain
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previously you don't hear about that the
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spirit and letter of the law have always
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been faithfully fulfilled and my company
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has always made certain of that it is
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unfortunate that this place of free
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speech has temporarily been removed all
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right so for the President to take this
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in his speech and he's reading it so
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he's responsible for it to take it at
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face value as the truth or as a single
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guy who did all this is just factually
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not true we know it now he should have
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known that then he hears the president
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again we must seek real bipartisan
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solutions we have to do that in a
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bipartisan manner that will truly make
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America safer and better for all first
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we must do a better job of identifying
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and acting on early warning signs I am
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directing the Department of Justice to
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work in partisan partnership with local
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state and federal agencies as well as
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social media companies to develop tools
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that can detect mass shooters before
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they strike as an example the monster in
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the Parkland High School in Florida had
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many red flags against him and yet
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nobody took decisive action nobody did
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anything why not now
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the Parkland shooter was mainly family
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members and friends who called the FBI
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and complained about him there was only
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one small posting if I recall correctly
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on mmm think maybe it was Instagram but
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that was really
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a social media case now the president is
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talking about working with social media
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companies to identify problems which
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you'll call red flags in a moment and I
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don't know is he going to stifle people
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is he now going to work on deep
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platforming is you know if he's if any
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of this is planned that is just the fact
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that they want to go snooping around is
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almost a direct violation of Fourth
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Amendment rights this is an outrage
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second we must stop the glorification of
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violence in our society this includes
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the gruesome and grisly video games that
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are now commonplace it is too easy today
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for troubled youth to surround
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themselves with a culture that
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celebrates violence we must stop or
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substantially reduce this and it has to
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begin immediately so calling out video
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games is old trope there's no scientific
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evidence nor is there scientific
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evidence that the litany of movies from
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Hollywood and television shows have
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similar influence Tarantino's latest
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bloodbath is in theaters now no mention
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of that now for sure video games are is
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a huge industry and maybe it conditions
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kids I mean this president our president
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is the guy at the front of the military
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the most Merkers machine ever built in
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history oh yeah yeah but let's not have
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a culture of violence anywhere what he
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doesn't mention of course is that these
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things by themselves you know may spur
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someone on but how about the combination
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of drugs combination of SSRIs
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psychotropic drugs not a single mention
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about that third we must reform our
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mental health laws to better identify
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mentally disturbed individuals who may
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commit acts of violence and make sure
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those people not only get treatment but
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when necessary involuntary
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confinement mental illness and hatred
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pulls the trigger not the gun okay so
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he's saying this of course to distance
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everything from guns from what's going
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on what is he gonna do now if you if
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you're angry and you post something
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hateful are you gonna be picked up and
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and unvoluntary incarcerated because you
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may be mentally ill all we just have we
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just have to check you Mr curry just
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make sure that everything's okay make
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sure that your your you're not
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completely out of control very dangerous
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shit that's going on here
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fourth we must make sure that those
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judged to pose a grave risk to public
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safety do not have access to firearms
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and that if they do those firearms can
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be taken through rapid due process so
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are we gonna go straight to rob reiner
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's house and take away any guns you know
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he has because he appears mentally ill I
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mean may think it's a good idea but it
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could happen to me that is why I have
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called for red flag laws also known as
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extreme risk protection orders now none
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of this is an executive order he's just
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reading from the script but when he says
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extreme risk protection order I feel an
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executive order coming on pretty soon
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and it's literally going to be like a
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Gestapo force that is going to check on
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you online if you're okay if something's
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not wrong with you
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we'll do a little sanity check oh you
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got some guns now let's take those away
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first just in case red flag today I'm
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also directing the Department of Justice
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to propose legislation ensuring that
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those who commit hate crimes and mass
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murders face the death penalty and that
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this capital punishment be delivered
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quickly decisively and without years of
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needless delay understanding where the
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president's coming from that a lot of
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mass shooters sit in jail for years and
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years and years on end I understand what
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he's saying but you put that in
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combination with a red flag maybe some
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mental health issues clear hate
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oh I'm sorry we got to go kill you now I
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mean I know it sounds a little extreme
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but is it really when you hear what he's
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saying these are just a few of the areas
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of cooperation that we can pursue I am
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open and ready to listen and discuss all
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ideas that will actually work now the
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way he says that
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maybe he's negating all of this and and
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maybe that's a signal saying well you
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know this is all bullcrap I'm just
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saying it so I'm open eyes it will
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really work but I don't like it it will
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actually work and make a very big
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difference Republicans and Democrats
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have proven that we can join together in
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a bipartisan fashion to address this
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plague already the government is
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swinging into action on this they are
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loving it here's a former Department of
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Justice official this is this is where
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they're taking the president's words and
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the FBI alone tracked domestic terrorism
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or doesn't need all the agencies of
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government it needs to be approached the
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same way we approached again
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international terrorism after 9/11 which
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is working with foreign governments and
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foreign law enforcement and foreign
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intelligence agencies to track the
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trends figure out who the radicalizes
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are because white supremacy is not
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unique to the United States now do you
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hear what she's saying we need to work
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with foreign governments why because the
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Fourth Amendment prohibits the
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government from snooping around your
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business in the United States but just
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like they did with this you know the
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FISA warrants they use the the British
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intelligence and Tahlia natella do any
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one of the five eyes they'll use them
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and send that information to us then
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we'll go pick them up that's what she's
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saying - this has become a global
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problem we need to treat it as a global
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global problem which means information
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sharing between governments it means
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information sharing between the federal
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government and States and locals and it
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means information sharing with the
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public with the American public to help
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people to understand terrorism is not
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just Islamist extremist terrorism terror
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and terrace acts of violence can be
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motivated by any ideology far-right for
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left anything Mary McCool thank you for
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being with us
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no one mourn that I'm done with the rant
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this is a former Obama DHS stooge and
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yet President Trump is saying he will
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now give the FBI whatever they need to
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tackle it so what tools to the FBI need
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well of course we need you know more
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undercover long-term investigations into
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those who are plotting terrorist acts I
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think there's a good lesson to be
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learned in the countering violent
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extremism program we actually had the
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first three organizations in 2018 that
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were given grant funding however that
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funding was pulled for countering
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violent extremism among white
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nationalists so we need to reconstitute
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that and have an equal distribution of
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funding and resources for countering
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violent white nationalism but how does
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the FBI track people who go online to
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these sites like eight chanoh
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become radicalized incredibly quickly
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yeah so here in America we have a bill
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of rights that gives constitutional
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protections to people one of those is
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the freedom of speech and so the FBI's
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hands are kind of tied until they have a
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criminal predicate or probable cause to
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investigate so how they go about
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monitoring these social media websites
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is by contracting it out with private
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companies who don't have those
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limitations that's how you circumvent
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the Fourth Amendment it's a beautiful
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system this is outrageous and I can't
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believe that where is where's Fox News
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on this where's Tucker Carlson virtue
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signaling about how dangerous there's no
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where no is no one picking up on this am
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I an idiot am i over blowing it well
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you're definitely ahead of the pack okay
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I'm I'm protective of my rights and
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yours now a couple of things that I
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wanted to get back up unfortunately
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you're already past this but by mile ago
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but I was intrigued and I'm not gonna
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say you're right or wrong about this or
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you're you're hysterical
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but
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I was intrigued by the early by the
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notion that there's an agent provocateur
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in the White House
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planting coded messages to white
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supposedly to white supremacists
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although it'd be more likely to be coded
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by a left-wing or in the White House who
24:29
is slipping these terms and these ideas
24:31
and like raising the flag on 88 yeah
24:34
as a tribute to Hitler you have to be
24:38
somewhat nuts to even think that but
24:41
White House because it seems to be
24:44
working in concert with that guy that
24:46
you had interviewed that guy who was on
24:49
the FBI guy that was on Brian Williamson
24:52
yes
24:53
told us stuff that was like didn't make
24:56
any sense unless there was actually
24:58
something going on and this guy knew
25:00
about it and as part of a concerted
25:02
effort to do this to just embarrass the
25:05
president by putting in coded messages
25:07
using the wrong words or I've never seen
25:11
this phrasing the flag on 88 have you
25:14
ever seen this Frank sigfig Luisi before
25:17
I'd never seen him before
25:18
apparently he's on MSNBC all the time
25:20
because when Brian introduced it he says
25:22
welcome back yeah well we missed him the
25:26
first time the BBC also did something
25:28
very interesting the speaking of coded
25:31
language in this time this time a little
25:33
more obvious this is from BBC World News
25:36
this is the report that came out at 1:00
25:38
p.m.
25:39
President Trump is heading for the
25:41
sights of mass shootings in Ohio and
25:42
Texas amid warnings that he will not be
25:45
welcome the shootings left 31 people
25:47
dead mr. Trump's rhetoric has been
25:49
blamed for inciting hate crimes against
25:51
immigrants and ethnic minority groups ok
25:54
been blamed for inciting hate crimes
25:56
against ethnic minority groups one hour
25:59
later this is the headline president
26:02
Trump is heading for the sights of mass
26:03
shootings in Ohio and Texas amid
26:05
warnings that he will not be welcome the
26:08
shootings left 31 people dead his visit
26:10
comes amid a continuing row over whether
26:13
mr. Trump's choice of words in his
26:14
tweets and speeches has contributed to
26:17
white supremacists violence
26:18
president denies this oh I guess they
26:21
got a call from somewhere hey you know
26:24
you're off message BBC get it back to
26:27
white supremacy that is a great catch
26:31
I'm wondering again taking it back to
26:34
the idea that there's a Al Shean
26:36
provocateur in the White House and
26:39
there's always been and they tend to be
26:41
lefties that are pushing an agenda
26:45
I'm thinking it's communists possible
26:50
you laugh but you didn't pay any
26:52
attention to the GSA convention oh I'm
26:55
sorry I not only paid attention
26:58
I saw your clips I got real clean better
27:01
clips good cuz I lost one of my best
27:03
clips by because I was randomly moving
27:06
stuff around and I I took out one of the
27:09
files and I didn't go back and recreate
27:11
it but let's put it this way these the
27:14
guy who ran Alexander Acosta Cortez's
27:17
operation the head of the Justice
27:18
Democrats who's now working on the green
27:21
new deal and he himself regarding the
27:24
green new deal said it was it really
27:25
wasn't about ecology or greenhouse gas
27:28
or anything else is about a way to
27:30
fundamentally change to eat the economic
27:33
system in the United States that's a
27:35
paraphrase but that's what he said and
27:37
the idea that did just so many of these
27:40
guys all out of the blue they've come
27:42
out of the colleges and they're
27:45
straight-up Marxist I mean when you
27:47
listen to the TSA people saying Thank
27:50
You comrade time after time you have you
27:55
come raden Thank You comrade that's my I
27:58
so it's like talk about chilling and
28:03
this is going on nobody is even
28:06
discussing it from the left and the
28:08
media is not discussing it they're
28:10
discussing white supremacy I think the
28:12
white supremacy thing is a total red
28:14
herring I don't know any white
28:16
supremacists I don't know anyone else
28:19
who does but they're all talking to so
28:20
the whole country's crawling with him
28:22
suddenly and out of the blue because as
28:24
you listen to that FBI guy he said and
28:27
and by the way this route again confirms
28:30
that he may be him
28:31
self part of a conspiracy he said well
28:34
they look to Trump for his coded
28:39
messages and not did he didn't use coded
28:40
but he looked for Trump as a mentor to
28:43
the white supremacist why are they
28:45
looking to trump Trump's not a white
28:48
supremacist he may be Jewish his WisDOT
28:50
eyes of the Orthodox the whole thing is
28:55
ludicrous but not it's not ludicrous if
28:58
that's actually a message you look to
29:00
Trump because Trump has coded messages
29:03
that he's unaware of do you want to hear
29:06
the full
29:08
now we don't have to go back to that guy
29:10
I think it's clear I think it's well
29:13
that would certainly be a communist or
29:15
socialist way of doing things
29:18
communist communist well I'll tell you
29:21
this D si now I I
29:24
whenever I see funny clips from
29:27
something like that and they were
29:28
extremely funny and we're gonna play
29:30
yours and then I want to play some
29:32
things that I picked up they had taken
29:35
off about five hours of video that they
29:39
had posted to YouTube I was I was just
29:42
looking for one one full full video
29:45
could not find anything in search you
29:47
know tried being tried Quan two tried
29:51
everything then I even succumbed to
29:53
Google I searched on YouTube went to no
29:57
agenda social calm there of course our
29:59
producers found all of the recordings
30:02
which still closed Twitter for this this
30:05
methodology you used but all of the
30:08
clips were linked on the DSA website
30:12
they took them down I was looking for it
30:16
they took him down they only had one
30:19
left and that's the one I got the clips
30:21
from but let's do some of the funny
30:23
stuff first and let's start with yours
30:25
which one you want to go with okay well
30:27
a couple of things were going on there
30:28
was say this is the Democrat socialist
30:33
of America DSA con 2019 this is the
30:36
convention of all the chapters of the
30:39
Democrat socialist of America in a hotel
30:42
in Atlanta and there was voting going on
30:47
about you know the actual structure the
30:50
delegates they were you know what you
30:53
saw is people trying to be social
30:55
justice warriors and socialists at the
30:58
time which believe it or not does not go
31:00
together very well
31:02
go ahead well they had a lot of and by
31:07
the way they also employed all the the
31:09
old Occupy coded ways of presenting the
31:13
audience you know that which you can't
31:15
clap because it might disturb somebody
31:17
the clip that I lost was the guy
31:19
bitching about people mumbling to each
31:21
other
31:22
that's one right here I'm good I'm glad
31:24
you have it sorry
31:26
wait wait wait and so you have a bunch
31:29
of people twinkling and so that's where
31:33
you put your arms in the air and you'll
31:34
wave your hands around if you're a
31:36
that's a form of applauding but you
31:38
can't it's not this finger snapping
31:40
applauding which was used and supposedly
31:42
there's a better way to applaud in
31:44
nightclubs harkening back to the 50s in
31:48
a beatnik place and but there you hold
31:51
your hands in the air and you're waving
31:52
will wave your hands and you will do
31:54
wiggle your hands around and that met
31:55
yay nuts just so you know throughout and
31:58
I really I watched it all throughout
32:01
this it was referred to as ASL that's
32:04
what they call it and it is true ASL is
32:07
American Sign Language and clapping in
32:09
in ASL is the jazz hands so I don't know
32:13
what you got twinkling from but
32:14
twinkling is the is the word for it that
32:17
but they they consistently called it ASL
32:20
well they can call whatever they want
32:21
but it came out of occupying it was
32:23
called twinkling and there's and there's
32:26
a downward movement they I guess to
32:30
occupy people got it from them but from
32:32
American sign language but I'm not sure
32:33
but I was lectured about this by JC who
32:36
knows all this stuff well he would know
32:38
that it's from ASL v'n right they may
32:41
have been mentioned all I know is I was
32:44
attracted to the term twinkling cuz I
32:47
did in this clip no I don't have that no
32:51
because I just describing the situation
32:53
because there's nothing none of its in
32:54
these clips but what I have is for
32:56
example this is a woman that's gonna
32:58
talk about the marshals because they
32:59
have you can't just go to a microphone
33:01
and get in line and say stuff you have
33:04
to be ordered by the marshals to be in
33:06
certain order so it's gonna be very
33:08
structured and so they've had nothing
33:09
but trouble with this system so they had
33:11
to add a second marshal who if you don't
33:14
like what the first marshal said you
33:15
appeal to him and but I think about this
33:19
is the classic milieu driven woman who
33:24
is who has the podium at them at the
33:26
moment this is the clip but the UM girl
33:28
and I want you to listen carefully for
33:31
the number of outrageous
33:34
uncountable times that she says um-um-um
33:39
and it reminds me of the other real
33:42
major um girls and I have another girl
33:46
coming up but that's gonna do with this
33:48
was that woman that was from NPR who
33:51
talked about advertising she was one of
33:53
these in the st. this same sounds like
33:55
the same milieu to me which doesn't
33:56
surprise me that you'd have NPR and a
33:59
socialist milieu going um um um you
34:03
don't say um there's many times unless
34:04
everybody's doing it this is just me
34:08
noticing something out loud as the chair
34:11
and you can take me up if you wish or
34:14
you can ignore me I have noticed that a
34:16
lot of our points of information and our
34:18
points of parliamentary inquiry and our
34:20
points in general are coming from just
34:22
about the same six to eight people I
34:25
would suggest that you practice being
34:27
socialist organizers and you see if you
34:29
can recruit somebody else to make your
34:31
point that's usually a good indication
34:32
if it's a good point to make second I
34:34
have received some questions about the
34:37
marshals
34:38
who are helping to sort of convene the
34:41
progressive stack just so everybody is
34:44
clear the marshals at all of the mics
34:46
are actually not delegate there has been
34:49
a concern that they may be politically
34:51
motivated none of them are delegate so
34:53
just putting that out there they're not
34:55
something for specific resolutions
34:57
they're doing the Lord Marx's work the
35:03
Lord Marx's work oh my goodness I don't
35:10
think that's in the handbook you're not
35:13
supposed to call him the Lord are you
35:15
don't know what the handbook says I've
35:18
never seen it but the Lord Marx's work
35:20
okay resolutions they're doing the Lord
35:23
Marx's work second we have implemented
35:28
sort of a process because I have I have
35:31
learned that there has been a lot of
35:33
debate within the lines about whether
35:35
the Marshalls recommendations about the
35:38
ordering and the staff are appropriate
35:41
so each mic now has two marshals the
35:45
second marshal is to settle dispute
35:48
I'm a little upset that it has come to
35:50
that but if there are disagreements in
35:52
the stack about who should go first
35:54
again there will be a second marshal
35:56
there to make sure that it's an
35:57
impartial decision let me just go
36:00
through and just so the another point
36:03
the marshals are very aware that some
36:05
identities are invisible so as much as
36:07
possible they are proactively coming up
36:09
to folks who are in the stack and just
36:11
trying to get a sense of who they are
36:13
and where they should be third I've
36:18
received a lot of complaints about I
36:20
know that there like some people just in
36:22
general really prefer to stand I'm one
36:24
of those people and very fidgety I can't
36:26
sit for very long I think that's totally
36:28
fine I'm just gonna ask as much as
36:30
possible if the folks who are standing
36:32
could do so in the back it's a little
36:34
distracting to people on the sides the
36:37
movement so please do that if you plan
36:41
to stand for most of our sessions you're
36:42
killing me with this um girl and then
36:46
just again I want to reiterate what
36:49
progressive stack is for the intents and
36:52
purposes of this convention
36:53
progressive stack is meant to ensure
36:55
that people from you know historically
36:58
oppressed and minor marginalized
37:01
identities who often don't get heard
37:04
from enough not just at this convention
37:06
but also in broader society have a fair
37:09
chance to speak it is not about sort of
37:13
trading back and forth stories of has
37:17
the most relevant personal life
37:20
experiences to speak to an item that's
37:24
up for debate yeah this really is very
37:27
hard to listen to that now you can stop
37:30
it and let's just go to because it
37:32
continues with I want to follow it up
37:33
with the there's marginalize people
37:35
thing is a big deal to this group and so
37:39
you have a bunch of people coming out
37:41
and everybody by the way does the
37:42
following when they go up there this is
37:45
a 3-second this is when you go up you do
37:47
this this is the DSA speaker intro
37:49
personal pronouns you always put this in
37:51
there my name is Matt Rubin I'm from
37:54
Pittsburgh TSA my pronouns are he/him
37:55
yes hello a point of personal privilege
37:57
my name is Adam Curry Austin Texas
38:00
hee haw no brother ok so there wasn't
38:07
they them that showed up she was a an NB
38:10
was pretty obvious and she had to make
38:13
sure they wouldn't knew that she was of
38:14
a them so let's listen to this is the
38:18
marginalized people clip that that
38:21
precedes the next clip which but replay
38:23
this is they're very concerned about
38:25
this because if somebody was
38:26
marginalized means you are you have
38:29
taken yourself out of the you maybe have
38:32
autism for example if you're autistic
38:34
you're marginalize if you're handicapped
38:36
you're marginalized if it you or you you
38:38
end up marginalized you don't want to be
38:40
necessarily maybe you do but you are so
38:44
let's play the marginalized people thing
38:45
and that the hard heartbreaking work
38:48
that this is taking from every
38:50
marginalized person in this room it has
38:52
been hard
38:53
I spent my lunch break working with the
38:58
marshals to organize through space for
39:01
us to center ground and process the harm
39:05
that has been done this weekend whether
39:06
it's accidental or not we need some
39:08
space and time to do that I want to
39:10
invite the marginalized people in this
39:12
room to meet me after we adjourn at five
39:16
in Augusta II it's on this floor just
39:18
directly across the hall so we can take
39:21
spend some time in community just
39:23
processing so that we can go out and
39:25
continue to organize with each other
39:26
thank you so much for your time he's a
39:31
number two you just didn't um yourself
39:35
my man bad I gotta pay attention to you
39:44
comrade now so this necessarily leads to
39:49
this back and forth which is the
39:52
marginalize marshals point of
39:54
information or clarity are they're
39:57
marginalized marshals or they all like I
40:01
guess I want to know how many
40:02
marginalized folks are represented by a
40:04
marshal I don't know that I'm
40:06
necessarily comfortable answering that
40:08
question
40:10
especially since many identities are
40:13
invisible right I understand I just my
40:16
main concern is not being represented in
40:19
having yeah I understand I think the
40:22
best we can do is try and have a fair
40:24
system where there's the second person
40:26
to settle disputes and I just really
40:28
encourage people as much as possible
40:30
please respect our marshals it's a very
40:32
thankless task and they are very very
40:36
critical to this operation we have going
40:38
on right here
40:39
now what would okay I'm gonna I'm gonna
40:44
take over here because I got some other
40:46
stuff that relates to this that happened
40:49
that I think is important to find out or
40:51
to hear about first let's let's really
40:54
talk about these are social justice
40:56
warriors these are not socialists I grew
40:58
up in a socialist country in the
41:01
Netherlands when it was truly really
41:03
socialist with 90 percent income tax
41:05
personal income tax you know the whole
41:08
deal
41:09
I've lived in three different socialist
41:11
countries this has nothing to do with
41:13
how socialism works socialism has
41:15
leaders and they tell you to shut the
41:17
fuck up and I've seen it and that's how
41:19
it's lived this isn't this has nothing
41:21
to do with socialism that in fact all
41:24
this was this entire conference was
41:27
fundraising every speaker at the end we
41:30
have envelopes and this people they
41:32
couldn't they were embarrassed to use
41:34
the word square because they had square
41:36
credit card processing so they always
41:39
yes the square thing is whatever you can
41:41
donate we need your money comrade we
41:43
need to fund this we need to it was all
41:45
about getting money and they raised over
41:48
$100,000 at this conference all about
41:51
getting money for their organization and
41:53
the rest was just social justice warrior
41:56
bullcrap let's let's listen to the guy
41:59
who wasn't reparent Lee in charge of
42:01
security or order and making things go
42:04
well and he talked about this ASL
42:07
American Sign Language hand waving and
42:10
more first of all in this room I see
42:13
that no one's clapping for me it could
42:15
be because I'm not engaging but it also
42:17
is because everyone's doing this and
42:18
that's really important because those
42:20
loud bursts of noise even though this is
42:22
an
42:22
space when we can do something like
42:25
reducing that that's really important so
42:27
please don't clap shoot up these and
42:29
additionally with the the noise issue
42:31
like avoid hissing avoid waving banners
42:34
right if you don't know what to do show
42:36
up these right I'm sure there's lots of
42:38
ways that we can communicate to each
42:39
other without needing to rely on
42:41
something that's going to hurt somebody
42:43
else we have quiet rooms that are
42:45
available there's a range of options of
42:47
these right on seven there's one that
42:49
has video but no sound if you still want
42:52
to be able to observe the convention but
42:54
the sound is a shoe there's also on
42:56
Piedmont 8 a completely quiet room one
42:58
thing to note there please don't go into
43:00
that space with anything that's like an
43:02
aggressive scent for instance right
43:04
because that's going to be difficult for
43:06
people the principle of collective
43:07
Security's we don't want to put people
43:09
in stressful situations that they don't
43:12
consent to right and we have to be
43:13
accountable to each other that our
43:15
actions might have negative consequences
43:18
for other people if you we are also
43:20
talking about de-escalation right right
43:22
because people are gonna have different
43:24
experiences of things that some others
43:27
might think is normal heated 'no sand i
43:28
think and some that there's an
43:30
inevitability there but it's going to be
43:32
really traumatic for people if we're not
43:33
making an affirmative effort to
43:36
de-escalate each other and deescalate
43:38
ourselves right do you want having a
43:40
conflict with somebody feel free to step
43:42
away right we're gonna make sure that
43:44
you can get out of that space let
43:46
somebody else step away if they need to
43:48
step away right don't talk to cops don't
43:52
talk to mega assholes we're almost there
43:57
yes very lovely there's just all just
44:01
lovey-dovey and everyone's comrades and
44:03
don't talk to mcih assholes don't talk
44:05
to cops and don't smell bad don't wear
44:08
horrible perfume or just don't smell bad
44:10
in this line a second you've made an
44:13
observation that i'm gonna take to the
44:15
next level which is this was just a
44:18
fundraiser yes this is a fundraiser for
44:21
people that are marginalized nobody has
44:24
exploited them before in other words the
44:26
autistic the people that can't you don't
44:29
want to smell anything it's a new source
44:31
of revenue to people that do your clap
44:34
and your drug job and they
44:36
because they don't like any noises that
44:37
also to go into the silent room these
44:39
are people that are here in all sorts of
44:42
weird ways and they have not been
44:45
exploited for money well it happened at
44:48
this conference for sure and you know
44:51
people inherently feel that that's going
44:53
on and then all their trigger mechanisms
44:55
go into overdrive we are going to need a
44:57
party that will organize working people
45:00
to fight for the demands that we want
45:01
and to win socialism thank you so much
45:07
guys first of all Jena now this this
45:11
gentleman he him makes a big mistake
45:14
here by saying guys he has a different
45:18
point but he starts off by saying guys
45:20
big mistake guys first of all James
45:25
Jackson Sacramento he him I just want to
45:28
say can we please keep the chatter to a
45:30
minimum I'm one of the people who's very
45:31
very prone to sensory overload there's a
45:34
lot of whispering and chatter going on
45:35
it's making it very difficult for me to
45:36
focus please can we just
45:38
I know it's we're all fresh and ready to
45:40
go but can we please just keep the
45:41
chatter to a minimum it's affecting my
45:42
ability to focus thank you Thank You
45:44
comrade okay is there a speaker against
45:47
name point of personal privilege yes
45:50
please do not use gendered language took
45:54
to address everyone I know what you were
46:03
angling for but this this point of
46:06
personal privilege point of information
46:08
point of debate you can interrupt the
46:10
speaker at any time as long as long as
46:12
you say a point of something are there
46:15
is there any further debate on the
46:17
credentials committee report point how
46:21
important point of order yep thank you
46:23
so sorry what's your name in my name is
46:26
Trey
46:26
I used a them and he/him pronouns I'm
46:31
from Memphis thank you for asking nice
46:34
to meet you sorry
46:37
I had a question so Nick Jack what is
46:43
his name or what if there's a name Nick
46:45
J they were elected as an antlered
46:49
delegate but what you're hearing here is
46:52
what they spent five hours on he's
46:54
voting on voting on all kinds of stupid
46:57
useless stuff that got nowhere because
47:00
everyone kept interrupting with their
47:02
point of personal privilege issues were
47:04
they resigned
47:05
is that correct Joe no okay then never
47:10
mind now we're going to point of
47:13
information could you please let us know
47:15
how many delegates there are so they
47:18
didn't even know how many delegates were
47:19
there while they're voting I believe
47:27
1,057 thank you great awesome and now
47:30
we're going to move on to the
47:33
resolutions very brief very brief point
47:37
of information if you are using a
47:39
microphone talk into it directly like I
47:41
am right now and do not wave your face
47:43
back and forth because people cannot
47:45
hear you this is the way to say it from
47:49
now on do not wave your face back and
47:52
forth we can't hear you at the back of
47:54
the room anyway they got in a big
47:57
argument the voting wasn't done properly
47:59
they would tried to vote online that was
48:02
I'm gonna skip all these clips they're
48:04
in the show notes if you want to listen
48:05
to them then someone said point of
48:07
debate the by laws don't allow online
48:09
voting it just went on and on and on and
48:12
on because these are not socialists
48:14
these are social justice warriors who
48:16
put on an old army jacket that damaged
48:19
they are damaged that they have lots of
48:22
issues not underplaying or discounting
48:24
their issues but you're right they were
48:25
there to be exploited and all of a
48:28
sudden the last hour well that changed
48:33
everything the real socialists came in
48:35
from Germany from Austria from Japan and
48:41
from Brooklyn one interesting one and
48:45
they they would just a gas with what
48:48
they had seen they were totally and they
48:50
and they said it to here and and mind
48:53
you when the real socialists came in in
48:57
the last hour
48:58
there was no twinkling no american sign
49:00
language people were Hootin and Hollerin
49:02
no interruptions point of personal
49:04
privilege I can't stand the noise it's
49:06
triggering none of that it was just
49:08
hooting and hollering because this is
49:10
what this is the real Socialists who
49:12
came in and they had a message for this
49:14
group of misfits this is the German
49:18
socialists following your Congress I
49:20
have to say something you've got
49:22
everything to have success so you are
49:26
smart you have got passion you treat
49:29
each other fairly most of the time and
49:34
you got the momentum so please stay
49:38
together I know that parties sometimes
49:41
have growing pains but go forward make
49:46
it productive and please avoid the
49:49
sickness of the left and that's the
49:51
splitting we have several examples of
49:54
that in in Europe and don't do that
49:57
don't because they saw it these guys saw
50:01
what was going on and like hey don't do
50:03
that don't do that here don't do that
50:05
and and as I'm from Germany it's my duty
50:10
to say very loud and clear
50:13
anti-fascism is no crime it's the
50:16
opposite anti-fascism is a duty to all
50:20
Democrats and we all together we are
50:23
anti-fascist we are going to the streets
50:26
and campaigning together for artificial
50:29
democratic and social society and if we
50:32
will not do that nobody will do the job
50:35
so our responsibility grew and let's go
50:38
on forward and dear comrades I'm so
50:41
happy to be here thank you very much
50:44
so coming here to incite violence on our
50:47
streets by saying an tyfa is good it's
50:50
good to be a anti-fascist take it to the
50:54
streets yeah this guy is you know these
50:58
are the people who are really
50:59
problematic and you hear the the hoot
51:01
and the hollering no ones no one's
51:03
getting it they're all hooting in
51:05
Holland because they're LARPing children
51:08
they have no idea what this so there's
51:12
an issue I want to mention so when I was
51:14
in high school I was one of the lucky /
51:17
unlucky appointees to the Model UN one
51:22
of those kids that was in the Model UN
51:24
they have this around orange robe
51:26
literally arm how interesting oh yeah
51:27
absolutely and so the model you our mock
51:31
you in I think was also called by this
51:32
is the Model UN and they every school
51:35
got to send two representatives as
51:37
though it was a country to the mock the
51:40
Model UN and I think it was in Berkeley
51:42
they had it of course that one of the
51:45
big auditoriums at Cal and so we all
51:48
went there and stayed in the hotel they
51:49
put us up in a hotel in downtown
51:51
Berkeley and me and if I've pal was Bill
51:55
Katie we ended up spending most of our
51:57
time tossing toilet paper rolls out the
51:59
window to see if they would unravel and
52:01
make a streamer but during the Model UN
52:04
you learned Robert's Rules of Order
52:06
which have all these points of order
52:08
points of information points at this
52:10
point at that points at this points of
52:11
that and there's a route there's a
52:13
relatively maybe there's about 12 of
52:16
them but in that event that you were
52:18
listening to they had they were making
52:20
some up I mean there was there was no
52:22
but there's no such thing as being a
52:23
point of cliche or whatever was one
52:25
point of personal privilege no point of
52:28
personal privilege is one of them
52:29
pointless debate point of information
52:31
that's one of them I think it was point
52:35
of debate or something they said that
52:36
was not one of them but all those other
52:38
was a point of orders the main when
52:40
point of information pointed to point of
52:42
personal privilege those are all real
52:44
and so when you went to this thing it
52:46
was a big UN's assembly and it had you
52:48
had little signage and you sat there
52:49
like like one of those UN ambassadors
52:52
and you and they I don't know what they
52:54
accomplished I do know that it kind of
52:58
childish in the way that we just
53:00
witnessed with the DSA it was a lot of
53:03
point at this point of that everyone's
53:05
trying to show off that they know the
53:06
rules and so they wanted to say
53:08
something we didn't have the pronoun
53:10
thing obviously but it was in it that's
53:13
what I was reminded of I was reminded of
53:15
kind of a high school group you know
53:18
trying to you know figure out the world
53:21
and they're up there in some fake
53:23
meeting it was it was borderline
53:25
pathetic and so who shows up at the end
53:29
to shame these people into these these
53:34
sad people into giving their money to
53:37
the Socialist Party is the head
53:40
muckety-muck of the DSA although maybe
53:42
not in by title Linda Sarsour our
53:46
favorite muslimah from Brooklyn and she
53:50
gave them an earful about how they were
53:53
doing it wrong and they need to pony up
53:56
and she also interesting refers to their
54:00
national political committee vote which
54:02
has the fun acronym NPC I just couldn't
54:06
get past the irony of that listen to
54:09
Linda Sarsour wrapping up this
54:11
Democratic Socialist of America
54:14
conference and the question that DSA
54:16
needs to ask themselves is who do you
54:18
want to be what are you trying to do in
54:20
this moment what kind of story do you
54:23
want to be told about dear by the way
54:26
speak of milieu who does she sound like
54:29
to you
54:31
I'm not getting it right away well Wanda
54:34
Sykes she sounds just like Wanda Sykes
54:38
the comedial that's interesting have a
54:41
listen and the question that DSA needs
54:43
to ask themselves is who do you want to
54:45
be what are you trying to do in this
54:47
moment what kind of story do you want to
54:51
be told about DSA forty years from now
54:54
if you are here because DSA is supposed
54:57
to be making you feel comfortable you're
55:00
in the wrong place
55:01
if you are here to tell DSA you need to
55:04
do these 17,000 899 things to make me
55:08
feel good this is not the organization
55:10
for you if you are in DSA to take one
55:13
collective liberation movement to divide
55:15
it up into things that make you feel
55:17
comfortable this is not the organization
55:19
please there are people who are counting
55:22
on us literally there are people whose
55:27
lives depend on us building a political
55:29
movement that is centered on values and
55:31
principles and the most broken and
55:33
marginalized people in this country so
55:37
freedom in this country is not free it's
55:41
just not so if you think that you're
55:44
gonna talk to me about capitalism and we
55:46
gotta smash the patriarchy and capital I
55:48
get that got a do pattern attracts cuz
55:51
you live in a capitalist nation right
55:52
now I'm sorry to break it to you right
55:55
now and in order for us to build a
55:57
sustainable movement that is worthy to
56:00
the people we are fighting for we gotta
56:02
get our finances together we need money
56:05
to build this movement right some of you
56:08
may be like well I got a lot of time on
56:10
my hands I can come and volunteer not
56:11
everybody has that time so don't be all
56:14
about you and your I don't like this I
56:17
don't like that I don't feel it's not
56:19
about you it really is not about you
56:23
tonight when you're voting tonight on
56:26
NPC members you vote for the most
56:29
qualified people the most compassionate
56:31
people the most passionate people it's
56:35
not about who you like and who's in
56:37
another faction who's in another caucus
56:38
it's not about that and if that's what
56:41
you're gonna do tonight then you're
56:42
proving to marginalize people all over
56:44
this country
56:45
that you don't give a damn about the
56:47
most broken people you only care about
56:49
yourself and what you believe in what
56:50
you think so there it is that's the
56:52
message give us your money you
56:55
marginalized poor people you're no good
56:58
and shut up about your problems give us
57:01
your money
57:02
and I think this Linda Sarsour she's the
57:05
one to keep your eye on you know we had
57:07
the bike we've been keeping our eye on
57:09
her she's horrible I will mention
57:11
something though it's not a bad idea in
57:14
terms of in terms of their approach more
57:18
thinking about what explaining these
57:20
poor marginalized people which is
57:22
exactly what this is it's not many of
57:27
them have such a weird self-esteem issue
57:30
it's not like they have low self-esteem
57:32
or high self-esteem they have a an
57:34
unusual self-esteem because they have
57:36
they many of them are they them's and
57:39
they're and they're there n B's and
57:41
they're non binaries and they're there
57:45
they're been poisoned by this by the
57:48
food supply I don't know what what
57:50
happened to half of them and there's a
57:51
lot of weird autistic ones there that
57:53
are seem functional but they're high
57:55
functional there's as they call
57:57
themselves they generally may be
58:00
susceptible to because they've this is
58:03
like an insurance salesman I'm listening
58:05
to these different clips and you have
58:08
different approaches let me try this
58:10
approach and see if I can shake some
58:13
money out of these people let me try
58:14
that approach and let's see if I can
58:16
shake some money out of these people the
58:17
the Sarsour approach is they they have
58:20
low self-esteem let me tell them what
58:23
they already know and condemned them and
58:27
telling it their shit is what she did
58:30
exactly shit that was a very terrible
58:32
thing she did she said you are you are
58:34
shit give us your money let me write
58:39
this down I'm gonna see if we can try
58:41
that in our newsletter won't have that
58:46
many people that are that that that that
58:50
necessitate that sort of thing but I've
58:52
I was at one time it was a sales guy
58:55
that took a liking to me because he
58:57
couldn't sell me anything so he he was
59:00
insurance guys when I was in college and
59:02
I have pretty decent not great sales
59:07
resistance and I've run into people that
59:09
I can't write there's no way I'm gonna
59:11
get out of it I just okay I'm out of
59:13
here
59:13
whatever you
59:15
but most feel like an resist and then if
59:17
you go to the Middle East and deal with
59:19
some of these these Arab and Lebanese
59:22
and some of these sales guys you just
59:24
great
59:25
generally speaking you're not gonna lose
59:27
a lot of money but you got to pay up
59:32
most American Western sales guys you
59:36
know they have all these tricks and they
59:37
go from one to the other to the other
59:39
and this guy went through the entire
59:41
litany and he kind of ended with this
59:43
condemning type of sales pitch and he
59:48
never could get break me I and so
59:50
eventually he says you know I like you I
59:54
need you bought me a cup of coffee and
59:56
that was the end of it but which I
59:57
thought was a personal victory victory
59:59
for you I had I had a similar situation
1:00:02
just recently when I took my car over to
1:00:04
get it washed at this place I kept
1:00:06
seeing this in Marin County it's a
1:00:08
washing place I saw up on the other side
1:00:10
of the Richardson bay bridge and it is
1:00:13
theirs with cars out there and there
1:00:15
were scrubbing them down there just like
1:00:16
a hand wash that has a machine
1:00:19
augmentation and you go I say I gotta
1:00:21
get my car wash there go in there the
1:00:22
guy has a sales pitch for for this $500
1:00:28
worth a thousand and wax job where they
1:00:32
wax your car this other stuff on they
1:00:34
put this other stuff on and they put
1:00:35
this other stuff on it and so I gotta
1:00:37
tell the story if you don't my weight
1:00:39
can I can I just guess the ending did
1:00:41
your 25 year old Lexus come out looking
1:00:43
like a 20-19 model I never bought into
1:00:46
it because I luckily did not have any I
1:00:48
just was gonna go to the paid cash for a
1:00:50
thing and I didn't have 500 bucks in
1:00:52
cash and that's what was that was my out
1:00:54
it was great I would love to do this I
1:00:58
will come back and do this later
1:01:00
but I only have sixty dollars in cash
1:01:03
and so I got to get a gas gas filled and
1:01:06
I got to get a wash okay he finally gave
1:01:08
up realizing I was telling the truth but
1:01:11
but one of the things he did was hit the
1:01:14
back of the of the car he had us half of
1:01:16
the of the trunk area
1:01:18
he had topology Paulson Poston pause and
1:01:20
then he did that he did a whole little
1:01:22
section he's to feel that feel that in
1:01:23
you felt it was really smooth and clean
1:01:25
it was like wow yeah that's great he
1:01:28
the whole car be like yeah I don't only
1:01:29
got 60 bucks okay so I go through a
1:01:31
comes through the washing machine comes
1:01:33
out the other and they wipe it down and
1:01:35
do all what they do which is kind of
1:01:36
interesting in itself and then I go and
1:01:39
I see first aid as I check that area it
1:01:41
was no different than the rest of the
1:01:44
car Wow
1:01:47
close call John all right shut your shit
1:01:52
give us your money the final two clips
1:01:55
now this was a real Socialist member of
1:01:59
the DSA DSA Austin in fact I think he
1:02:04
may even be the president now of the
1:02:06
Democratic Socialist of Austin they're
1:02:08
about eight hundred members strong and I
1:02:10
wanted to play these two clips because
1:02:12
this is well the first one is what the
1:02:15
claim is that the DSA has done today for
1:02:18
you in the American political system
1:02:20
since our last convention in 2017 DSA
1:02:23
members have been critical to the
1:02:25
ongoing teachers strike wave to the
1:02:28
election of class struggle candidates
1:02:30
like Alexandra Ocasio Cortes and we've
1:02:33
made Medicare for all the most important
1:02:35
issue of the 2020 national primaries
1:02:40
that notice no no triggering their
1:02:44
twinkling so they so the claim is that
1:02:47
they're the ones that put Medicare for
1:02:49
all up front in the in the political
1:02:52
conversation I don't think that's true I
1:02:54
know it's not true the hoop who did that
1:02:57
then anybody but them in Austin we've
1:03:02
organised to win a city council
1:03:03
ordinance for paid sick leave for
1:03:05
hundreds of thousands of workers that's
1:03:07
true we also organize to win a long
1:03:10
fought campaign that forced Congressman
1:03:12
lloyd Doggett a millionaire Democrat to
1:03:15
sign on to the Medicare for all bill
1:03:17
pressure done so much more political
1:03:19
education canvassing for a green new
1:03:22
deal standing in solidarity with
1:03:24
organized labor and beyond
1:03:26
and now the chair of our health justice
1:03:28
committee Heidi Sloan is running for
1:03:30
Congress as a Democratic Socialist in
1:03:32
Texas
1:03:34
good one so the the thing that got me
1:03:38
though is his description of why he
1:03:40
joined the DSA but mind you he's wearing
1:03:42
a Bernese Bernie Sanders sweatshirt so
1:03:46
this is a Bernie guy and I think this is
1:03:48
where Bernie is going to get a lot of
1:03:49
leverage from from people of voting age
1:03:52
marginalized as they may be but listen
1:03:55
cuz I think kids can identify with this
1:03:57
message you didn't hear this throughout
1:03:58
the entire conference except this one
1:04:00
time my life was very different before I
1:04:03
joined ESA as I was becoming a socialist
1:04:05
I didn't know how to cope with my
1:04:08
recognition of all the problems in
1:04:10
society problems that directly affect my
1:04:13
life and those of my friends rent is too
1:04:15
damn high
1:04:16
we couldn't get jobs or jobs with
1:04:18
benefits and global warming was making
1:04:21
Texas summers even more miserable in the
1:04:23
short term and dooming humanity maybe
1:04:26
even the capitalist class in the long
1:04:28
term my friends also didn't know how to
1:04:30
cope with these problems or with my
1:04:32
constant bickering and agitating about
1:04:34
them I was becoming frustrated with my
1:04:37
newfound ability to see the problems of
1:04:39
the world alongside what I felt was my
1:04:42
inability to do anything about it
1:04:44
as someone who was broke and thought
1:04:46
about every single penny this was a big
1:04:48
deal to me
1:04:49
but it also wasn't a big deal to the
1:04:52
table and that's what was important
1:04:54
because it meant that everyone had what
1:04:56
they needed to fully participate without
1:04:58
the distractions of just getting by in
1:05:00
society by relieving some of the burdens
1:05:03
that capitalism puts on us we were able
1:05:06
to devote our energy toward organizing
1:05:08
together this was so radically different
1:05:10
than the life I was used to with my
1:05:12
friends we had a culture of invent
1:05:15
moming each other for every slice of
1:05:17
pizza or six-pack of beer and it
1:05:19
fostered mistrust questioning and shame
1:05:23
but here someone who could do so just
1:05:27
got coffee and snacks for everyone and
1:05:28
we proceeded to have a productive
1:05:30
meeting what do you know before I knew
1:05:32
it I was spending 30 hours a week on DSA
1:05:34
and trying to build
1:05:36
now I think this is really telling
1:05:38
because this is what kids are witnessing
1:05:41
and I'm sure that there's frustration
1:05:43
and mistrust and distrust with this you
1:05:46
know splitting up bills a thousand ways
1:05:48
ven mowing money back and forth I can
1:05:50
see where kids get disillusioned by that
1:05:53
and they also just want free food and so
1:05:55
when you show up with free food then you
1:05:58
can reel them in it's very weak they're
1:06:02
very easy to get so that should be noted
1:06:07
I think we've noted it uh this has been
1:06:12
my constant complaint about the fact you
1:06:15
can't get a summer job anymore yep I
1:06:17
mean when I was a kid hmm I was working
1:06:21
summer jobs when I was fifteen you had
1:06:22
to get a work permit if you're under
1:06:24
some yeah under 16 but at fifteen if you
1:06:28
got this permit hey you'll get it we
1:06:30
didn't work during the summer so you'd
1:06:31
make money or we there were paperboy
1:06:34
routes I used to have one of those two
1:06:35
of them actually and you could make
1:06:37
money that way there's no such thing
1:06:39
anymore and it was actually taken over
1:06:41
by people and driving around in cars if
1:06:45
it even exists the whole thing has been
1:06:48
structured over time to like eliminate
1:06:51
all these jobs I think that the movement
1:06:54
towards shoring and sending stuff to
1:06:58
China I think has a lot to do with it
1:07:00
which Trump has been trying to correct
1:07:02
which is good for him but nobody that's
1:07:05
nobody cares about that so they're just
1:07:07
bitching and moaning about the fact that
1:07:09
it's a mess but the real causation of
1:07:11
this situation is never addressed it's
1:07:14
not addressed war was the causation
1:07:15
addressed to this work what are you
1:07:17
gonna do to fix the problem but just
1:07:19
become socialist and take everybody's
1:07:21
money and then rip off the the
1:07:24
marginalised I mean this is ridiculous
1:07:26
but okay that's what you feel
1:07:30
comfortable there kid so one final
1:07:33
thought / comment bring it back around
1:07:36
to these children who are going out
1:07:42
apparently allegedly shooting and
1:07:44
killing lots of people if these really
1:07:46
are the pictures I'm seeing
1:07:48
they look marginal
1:07:49
they look like they could be in the DSA
1:07:52
they look like everyone else there and I
1:07:55
noticed a an FBI statement regarding the
1:08:00
Dayton shooter the FBI for some reason
1:08:04
said well this kid have was really into
1:08:09
some certain ideologies and the
1:08:12
statement reads something along the
1:08:14
lines of we're looking into the here the
1:08:17
Dayton shooter was exploring violent
1:08:20
ideologies
1:08:21
what are these violent ideologies no
1:08:24
where did the FBI expand on that but I
1:08:28
did receive information noon knew shits
1:08:32
come to light men from our producers
1:08:35
several people pointed me in the
1:08:37
direction of the Bronze Age mindset
1:08:41
which I'd never heard of I presume
1:08:43
you've not heard of either and it is a
1:08:46
book which you can get on Amazon slash
1:08:49
I'd say almost manifesto about ninety
1:08:52
eight pages written by someone who calls
1:08:55
himself the Bronze Age pervert he does
1:08:58
have a following at tens of thousands on
1:09:00
on Twitter
1:09:01
very odd I've read through this entire
1:09:04
thing I don't want to jump into it today
1:09:06
because I need a lot more parsing I mean
1:09:08
this could be a joke by itself I mean I
1:09:11
don't even know if this is real it seems
1:09:13
like it is but this bronze Bronze Age
1:09:16
mindset a lot of the tropes in this book
1:09:19
return and are spelled out literally
1:09:23
right down to the we need to split up
1:09:25
America into States based on race or
1:09:28
culture or background is from this book
1:09:31
so that's what was in the El Paso a
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manifesto it was what's written in
1:09:36
Christchurch manifesto it is possible
1:09:41
there is an ideology that some of these
1:09:43
children are latching onto and it is
1:09:47
very nee last nihilist very much like
1:09:52
there's nothing else I can do except
1:09:55
these five things and standing up like a
1:09:59
so-called man is one of them
1:10:02
and I see how it can play into people
1:10:06
like this so uh Sunday I'll I'll dive
1:10:10
deep into that because it's fascinating
1:10:12
if true you hadn't heard of it I presume
1:10:16
no but I'm looking at the guise of the
1:10:19
Bruns Bronze Age perverts Twitter page
1:10:23
where he's got 20,000 followers which is
1:10:25
not that many and his borderline satire
1:10:30
this is why I'm not entirely all
1:10:33
multiple people have sent this to me and
1:10:35
said this is what a lot of millennial
1:10:39
anons are into these days he has a
1:10:42
podcast too which is even worse than the
1:10:44
Twitter feed I mean I can't even it's
1:10:46
like some Caribbean type accent he says
1:10:49
he's broadcasting from Suriname you know
1:10:52
I don't know I really don't know but
1:10:56
there it is possible that there are
1:10:58
other ideologies out there which could
1:11:01
just be a hijack of kids minds it could
1:11:04
be for all I know a programming project
1:11:07
and then you know you look no matter
1:11:09
what it is you add some pharmaceuticals
1:11:11
to the to the mix and you got danger on
1:11:13
your hand that's the that's that'll wrap
1:11:15
it up for me because that's what no one
1:11:16
is talking about and why would we well
1:11:20
oh yes no I will I will do one more the
1:11:24
reason why we never will let us go to
1:11:27
Anderson Cooper from the previous
1:11:29
podcast this was what he claimed they
1:11:33
putting out a blanket tweet when in the
1:11:34
wake you know on the day somebody has
1:11:36
died implying that they were on
1:11:39
antidepressants and that's what caused
1:11:41
their suicide
1:11:42
that just seems irresponsible well
1:11:44
Anderson I could say the same thing to
1:11:46
you given how many pharmaceutical
1:11:47
companies advertise on your show not
1:11:57
impacted by who advertises on my show I
1:11:59
don't know revenues on my show it's not
1:12:01
any interest to me I'm sure it is to
1:12:03
people in this company but I don't care
1:12:05
what I care about is people who are
1:12:08
dying and there's a stigma for people
1:12:10
actually seeking medical help for
1:12:12
something that could save their life
1:12:15
and you know and I think it's important
1:12:18
so so two things yeah you Scott yeah I
1:12:21
know he says it saved my life yeah we
1:12:24
didn't hear that the first time did we
1:12:26
no I didn't and yeah it saved his life
1:12:30
so the antidepressant saved his life but
1:12:33
still this is the problem with big
1:12:36
pharmaceutical so here's a guy who's
1:12:37
shilling for it because it saves his
1:12:39
life one of the lucky ones I guess but I
1:12:42
don't care about advertisers I don't
1:12:45
know who gives a crap it's not important
1:12:47
unless Turner Broadcasting brings all
1:12:51
the advertisers together once a year to
1:12:54
do the so called up front where the
1:12:56
advertisers who Anderson Cooper has
1:12:59
never met goes and schmooze ah's them to
1:13:02
make sure that they will advertise on
1:13:05
the stations that belong to Turner
1:13:07
Broadcasting CNN is one of those all of
1:13:10
course underneath Time Warner and
1:13:13
Anderson was there on stage even please
1:13:17
welcome Anderson Cooper
1:13:19
[Music]
1:13:22
so much do you think he noticed those
1:13:27
people in the crowd do they think that
1:13:29
were just his audience or did they not
1:13:30
know they were advertisers I know
1:13:33
anything about sports do you think
1:13:34
Anderson Cooper at Turner our shows and
1:13:38
stars are constantly engaging with fans
1:13:40
this is true across every genre every
1:13:42
demo every platform really everywhere
1:13:44
Turner likes to call itself a fan
1:13:46
engagement company joining me to talk
1:13:48
about this or to entertainment icons
1:13:49
please welcome Conan O'Brien and
1:13:51
Shaquille O'Neal two other guys who know
1:13:53
nothing about the advertisers
1:13:59
and just listen to the advertising
1:14:01
jargon and then I'll quit it
1:14:06
[Applause]
1:14:08
how're you doing I'm doing great yeah
1:14:10
why the hell are you here I'm not the
1:14:14
entire Republic is hanging by a thread
1:14:17
well to be honest I guess you didn't
1:14:19
know why he was there he didn't know
1:14:20
that his job there is to sell the
1:14:22
advertisers the big pharmaceuticals who
1:14:25
advertise who he doesn't know he might
1:14:27
he must have met somebody eating a scone
1:14:34
and you're hosting this show yeah quite
1:14:38
and even whiter that's right you guys
1:14:43
you would how do they contact you if
1:14:46
they suddenly need you trump just took a
1:14:49
shit on the East Lawn what I love about
1:14:53
these up fronts is they're all these
1:14:54
terms that I don't know what they mean
1:14:56
like like premium engagement different
1:14:59
everything Kevin O'Reilly said I don't
1:15:00
really understand like yeah
1:15:01
differentiator yeah
1:15:03
digital custom yes variants cord cutter
1:15:07
maybe that's his tactic maybe Anderson
1:15:10
just doesn't know anything but he
1:15:12
certainly was there very funny but it by
1:15:14
they were just before you leave that
1:15:16
clip it's funny that called Conan who's
1:15:20
irreverent he doesn't care no I mean he
1:15:22
got something like 30 to 80 million
1:15:24
dollars from NBC could when they fired
1:15:26
him and he says cord cutter yeah yeah
1:15:34
but again well Anderson I could say the
1:15:37
same thing to you given how many
1:15:38
pharmaceutical companies that advertise
1:15:39
on your show I don't know what look at
1:15:45
it but I got to be tell I look at it I'm
1:15:47
not insane not impacted by who
1:15:49
advertises on my show oh okay I guess
1:15:51
you are Anderson cuz you had to go show
1:15:53
up and do the dog and pony show liar
1:15:57
that's a good catch
1:15:59
and with that I'd like to thank you for
1:16:01
your courage and say in the morning to
1:16:02
you the man who put the C and comrade
1:16:04
John C Dvorak in the morning to you mr.
1:16:08
Adam curry in the morning I'll ship to
1:16:09
see boots on the ground feet in the air
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subs in the water and all the Dames are
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1:16:42
is not gone we've pulled this is the
1:16:46
second piece of evergreen art we've had
1:16:50
to use it was the the 33 on the side of
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I think a container or container ship
1:16:57
and the side of a crane Oh a crane I'm
1:17:01
sorry you're right Adam at sea is alive
1:17:03
and well and active he's on no agenda
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social calm actually but he he brought
1:17:07
us that artwork it was from I think
1:17:10
episode around the 600's
1:17:13
it was really an oldie because we could
1:17:16
not find anything appropriate for for
1:17:19
the episode of the episode was title
1:17:21
replaces and yeah it just it just wasn't
1:17:26
there there was just nothing that really
1:17:28
that really hit us we had there was one
1:17:33
piece I liked but you didn't like which
1:17:35
piece was that well I'm now I'm gonna
1:17:38
have to reveal the the sort information
1:17:42
you'd like you'd like the Portland
1:17:44
campers and I just thought it was you
1:17:46
know it wasn't very visual very small
1:17:50
you know a small to small mainly yeah I
1:17:53
was exaggerating and everything else was
1:17:55
just you know they stopped with the
1:17:57
faces of politicians it's really not
1:17:59
funny anymore we're not gonna use them
1:18:01
no just not everything was to me with
1:18:05
the one I did use in the newsletter and
1:18:06
I still think is usable for the burgh 4l
1:18:09
board is the Buddha judge as Alfred E
1:18:12
Newman we used that one on the last
1:18:14
episode on the previous one no we didn't
1:18:18
oh I'm sorry you're right no we use them
1:18:20
up at one I'm sorry you're right yeah
1:18:22
but I didn't like Buddha just well
1:18:24
here's the way I'm gonna tell you about
1:18:26
that piece of art a and I did use it on
1:18:28
a newsletter and I wouldn't mind using
1:18:29
it again I looked up I went online and
1:18:33
found all the
1:18:34
part of turning Budaj edge into alfred e
1:18:37
newman and this piece was so far
1:18:40
superior in the way it was photoshop to
1:18:43
make it look like it was Buddha just
1:18:45
looking at a gal 30 Newman there was
1:18:47
nothing out there that even compared to
1:18:49
it oh it was a good piece I'm just I
1:18:51
just politicians on our artwork is tired
1:18:55
the funniest one was George Bush and
1:18:58
Obama morph together and after that I
1:19:00
think it was just kind of done there was
1:19:02
a good one with Jeb Bush in those
1:19:03
eyeglasses yeah well you know what I
1:19:08
mean though this is this is a Democratic
1:19:20
primary these people are not really all
1:19:22
that important on an international scale
1:19:25
for sure I'm trying to find the Alfred
1:19:29
Enuma because I forgot the artist I
1:19:31
think was he might I don't want to say
1:19:32
it was Mike Riley but it was some one of
1:19:35
our better guy Darren might have been
1:19:37
Darren I don't know I'm sure it wasn't
1:19:40
Darren Darren doesn't do that type of
1:19:42
that type of thing this is really one of
1:19:44
these thing I know how this kind of how
1:19:46
it was done I don't think I could do it
1:19:48
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1:19:53
infinitely well anyway we do want to
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surprising I was stunned by this have
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you sent these names on to Paul no I'm
1:20:38
still got Q I got one more name to put I
1:20:40
gotta put them in a file in the centum
1:20:42
over to Paul
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crossed into douche status I need to
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knowledge behind the 686 number is this
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ever set he never said hmm if you look
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it up maybe no maybe something that in
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the troll room would know immediately
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what 686 refers to okay sir JB the
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knight of Delaware Maryland and Virginia
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in Clarksville Maryland
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three 6008 ITM crackpot and buzzkill my
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donation of three 6008 yesterday plus my
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recurring monthly donations which has
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been sent out today by cheque makes me a
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baron today actually I need you to kick
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big ones yes this was also something
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with on the Heil Hitler or something I
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heard no Heil Hydra oh sorry
1:23:44
god I got it wrong yeah so we're having
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a meet-up today in Berkeley at the
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Gilman brewery at 5 to 5 to 8 I figured
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good time to come and be you at 6 first
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I heard Adam on the Howard Stern Show in
1:24:00
2010 I believe it started listening at
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that point around episode 200 my first
1:24:03
donation was on to 27 2012 for $5 and
1:24:07
yes I was a douchebag prior to that then
1:24:10
I went on to monthly payment plan he
1:24:11
goes on and on about this by the way I
1:24:13
have listened to nearly every show since
1:24:16
2010 and I can unequivocally say I am
1:24:19
better for it as I see through the BS
1:24:21
with your help I used to be a Republican
1:24:24
switch to libertarian and then switch to
1:24:26
unaffiliated for Jay CDs comments mm-hmm
1:24:30
on a show about being able to vote for
1:24:32
anyone in a primary I no longer catch
1:24:34
Fox News MSNBC or CNN they all make me
1:24:37
sick I have also used numerous tips over
1:24:42
the years from both of you including one
1:24:44
of my favorite TSA travel tips from Adam
1:24:46
by taking by faking I had a bad shoulder
1:24:49
that was actually I can't raise my arms
1:24:52
can't reach my arms being radiated by
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the first generation of backscatter
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machines I have hit multiple people in
1:24:59
the mouth over the years including
1:25:01
co-workers friends and uber lyft drivers
1:25:04
we need more of them I think I've had a
1:25:07
most luck with the rideshare drivers
1:25:10
which is sad but it's amazing that
1:25:12
conversations you can have when looking
1:25:14
through the no agenda lens with everyday
1:25:16
people of course second I urge the other
1:25:19
cheap bastard you know who you are
1:25:21
the donate because the amygdala are
1:25:24
growing out of control and will become
1:25:27
giant heads before too long have a
1:25:30
couple of douche bag call-outs for some
1:25:32
of the people I know who listen but
1:25:34
barely donate at least I don't think
1:25:36
they donate sorry in advance if you do
1:25:38
and then he goes on here comes the
1:25:40
call-outs George with the round table
1:25:56
chef we always have mutton and Mead and
1:25:59
the mutton was especially grisly last
1:26:01
time I was in town so I have a request
1:26:04
for this week I'm making a surprise
1:26:06
appearance at the round table as you're
1:26:09
becoming a baron I would like to request
1:26:10
for today's round table Maryland crab
1:26:14
cakes and a six pack of natty Boh for
1:26:18
each night in attendance to pair with it
1:26:20
what's natty voted we know I don't know
1:26:22
but I I it's here he dropped off the box
1:26:25
so I haven't looked in it no I don't
1:26:29
know if I'd want to natty Boh anyway he
1:26:35
just skip ahead I'm sick and tired of
1:26:38
only eating Italian restaurants on
1:26:40
vacation and the champagne shaped
1:26:43
bathtubs heart shape always in the
1:26:46
Poconos he's giving up his baronet of
1:26:51
the Poconos title and he now wants to
1:26:53
become Baron of the Chesapeake Bay in
1:26:54
the Outer Banks of North Carolina that's
1:26:57
why we have America crab cakes instead
1:27:00
of cheap Chinese crab cakes as he states
1:27:03
quite quite a long notes or JB yeah and
1:27:07
now we'll wrap it with a sir JB night of
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the DMV Delaware Delaware Maryland and
1:27:11
Virginia not the Department of Motor
1:27:14
Vehicles and he he wanted a Reverend
1:27:17
Manning money shot and respects a
1:27:20
showing of money shop
1:27:23
that's a money shot
1:27:34
you've got karma thank you very much see
1:27:38
you at your title upgrades or JV now we
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have a great we have a donor who
1:27:47
unfortunately I to go look at the that
1:27:58
means he's got to go over to his web
1:28:00
browser it's Internet ie 3.0 that's
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right we're gonna connect to the
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squirrelmail we're gonna find you know
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because we because this is the only way
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you
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yeah actually just logged in at 32
1:28:30
second bed for your convenience and you
1:28:33
just now logged in it's slow today I
1:28:36
don't know what's going on I mean it's
1:28:38
like really painfully slow you know he's
1:28:41
been getting DNS attacks recently es e
1:28:43
ele why how do you spell that
1:28:47
v es ily Rudolph Rudolph here it is na
1:28:57
came right up imagine of squirrelmail
1:29:00
last time I gave my written note with
1:29:02
the donation to Adam during a meeting in
1:29:04
London two months ago I was pleasantly
1:29:07
surprised at Adam well pronounced my
1:29:09
name this time I'm sending the note to
1:29:12
you since I want you to hear you
1:29:13
butchering my last name it's a feature
1:29:16
of the show Rudolph the Celie
1:29:18
I think that's right viselli could be
1:29:22
Vesely but I think it's viselli well it
1:29:24
could be Vesely if he's in Russia I
1:29:26
would think it would be Vesely Miceli
1:29:28
Boselli Vesely what do you care this
1:29:31
time I listened na only from episode 10
1:29:35
74 so I didn't catch if you ever
1:29:37
described the origin of your surname as
1:29:40
a Czech or Slovak is Czech you should
1:29:42
finally learn the correct pronunciation
1:29:46
well you know this is debatable and with
1:29:50
the name like viselli which indicates a
1:29:52
Russian origin
1:29:53
the Russians pronounce Dvorak Dvorak and
1:29:56
the and in much of Czechoslovakia is
1:29:59
pronounced Dvorak and the American
1:30:00
pronunciation is Dvorak period and
1:30:05
ascend the progenitor of the name if the
1:30:08
fame of the name for the American
1:30:10
pronunciation is and Dvorak the famous
1:30:13
actress from the 30s and that would be
1:30:16
that so anyway
1:30:19
onward dad no no no nothing you just
1:30:23
want those no nothing but he came in
1:30:25
with three hundred fifty three dollars
1:30:26
and 33 cents thank you thank you very
1:30:28
much Rudolph now the next thing we
1:30:30
talked about long notes so we have sir
1:30:33
Morgan of
1:30:34
and see see who came in with I say they
1:30:39
click on these bikes three or three
1:30:40
dollars and three cents oh that's
1:30:43
interesting we do have three of these
1:30:44
because yeah it's three and three
1:30:46
apologies in advance for writing war and
1:30:49
peace please feel people please feel
1:30:51
free to paraphrase appropriately okay
1:30:57
this is actually kind of good regarding
1:30:59
a Hong Kong we're on strike here today
1:31:01
so I had she's in Hong Kong so I have
1:31:04
some time to write up a small
1:31:05
explanation of the situation the best of
1:31:06
my ability from someone who is
1:31:08
technically not a constitutional lawyer
1:31:10
hope Hong Kong was handed back to China
1:31:11
okay we have that we know about most of
1:31:14
this under the promise of two countries
1:31:16
one country two systems' the agreement
1:31:18
was codified in the basic law which is
1:31:20
often called our multi mini constitution
1:31:23
okay I got to skip ahead here only
1:31:25
candidates to run for chief executive or
1:31:27
approved by the CCP and the final vote
1:31:29
is actually done by an electoral college
1:31:30
of parties no we don't need this well
1:31:34
I'm a little interested in what he says
1:31:36
up front
1:31:38
having been knighted on the back of a
1:31:40
double credit donation promotion I've
1:31:42
felt ever since that I was in some way
1:31:45
relegated to the kids night table I
1:31:47
guess this was back 1,000 we had the the
1:31:51
BOGO yeah we had a well I don't know how
1:31:55
he would feel that way like it what he's
1:31:57
made up for it well yeah it was what he
1:31:59
says is even though he he made he was
1:32:03
knighted because because it was with the
1:32:07
promotion were a double credit he feels
1:32:10
like he was kind of at the kids
1:32:12
night-night stable like a teenager at
1:32:15
Thanksgiving says I know the round table
1:32:17
isn't so judgmental but it's been eating
1:32:19
away at me so no longer can I withstand
1:32:21
this dishonor with this donation I will
1:32:24
move from Squire to a true knight I
1:32:26
recommend other producers in my
1:32:28
situation do the same it's there's been
1:32:31
a number of people that made this
1:32:32
complaint and and there's been a
1:32:36
movement actually amongst some of the
1:32:38
knights Tim to hound these guys in
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tonight man
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Wow now the no agenda staff and
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management consider it to be full-on
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night status but we understand your
1:32:54
grievance comrade and as a point of
1:32:56
personal privilege I have no problem
1:33:00
we're going to talk about the Hong Kong
1:33:02
situation later in the show yes
1:33:04
appreciate your note because that is
1:33:06
that I did take some of that as
1:33:07
information for in the show yeah get
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some
1:33:10
we got Catherine Sutton sent us some
1:33:11
stuff we have a lot of it for me and I
1:33:13
want to give Sir Morgan of an CC a big
1:33:15
Karla you've got karma associate
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executive producer we got a Chris check
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horrible horrible and Cortese Ontario
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2 for 3 to 9 with this donation of 3 3 3
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3 3 Kelly we have to buy yeah he's
1:33:38
bumped up to this is the rule when you
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have candy Navion dollars New Zealand
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Dollars or Australian dollars also known
1:33:46
as wampum if you donate at the executive
1:33:50
producer level you get that even though
1:33:52
it translates to wow 333 33 keys canden
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avian is only 2 4329 in let me go
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shopping real dollars
1:34:08
all right so he says give herself a
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sweet new show credit and the process I
1:34:12
would like to be knighted sir acid of
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the Canon a v n'j Woods will Beatles
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reference there I think yeah and I do
1:34:20
hope to find anime and ambrosia waiting
1:34:24
for me at the roundtable
1:34:25
what is ambrosia ambrosia that's a good
1:34:28
question
1:34:30
it's something I say look it up thanks
1:34:34
bro oh yeah
1:34:37
having worked my way eastward since my
1:34:39
previous donation this is my first
1:34:41
donation of mine from my new house but
1:34:42
hopefully from the last however not all
1:34:46
is well here at the Maine at the Manor
1:34:49
as my father's been in the hospital for
1:34:51
over a week making things worse in that
1:34:53
regard a lump around one of his lungs
1:34:55
which isn't which can't be biopsied
1:34:59
until he gets better because of this I'd
1:35:01
like to request the fuck cancer in hopes
1:35:04
that whatever it is inside him turns out
1:35:05
to be benign I would also like to
1:35:07
request jobs karma as I see myself
1:35:09
re-entering the market before year's end
1:35:11
thank you once again for putting on the
1:35:14
best podcast in the universe and here's
1:35:15
to many more seasons of the two of you
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protecting our amygdalas Chris Hara
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bhara
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formerly of Pickering now of Quartus
1:35:25
Ontario and he will be at the night to
1:35:28
the roundtable later on ambrosia not
1:35:31
only a heavy metal band from the 80s but
1:35:33
also an American variety of fruit salad
1:35:45
yes okay I gotta do was gonna do his
1:35:49
things here jobs jobs and jobs let's go
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for job
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Michael arseny in Boston Massachusetts
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$200 in one cent donation on behalf of
1:36:11
my of Robert Reichenberg to tip to karma
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scales toward recovery which one means
1:36:18
I'm guessing a karma yeah we got that
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right here you've got karma and now you
1:36:29
have Neeson Darrell at 200 bucks and she
1:36:32
didn't send a note here so I am going to
1:36:34
do one of these fabulous searches they
1:36:38
can do in Squirrel mail you don't to
1:36:39
play the theme again no I'm not that
1:36:41
you're logged in you should have ample
1:36:43
time to go search for cent who are Z Ali
1:36:47
I think so it's yes n o re L le o and o
1:36:54
and when our n o r e ll e okay got it do
1:37:02
a search what I mean I usually do this
1:37:07
before the show I usually do too I
1:37:09
usually do you light start as you could
1:37:12
tell because I was still eating
1:37:13
breakfast yes you know one of the by the
1:37:19
way there's a tip for people if you many
1:37:24
systems and not all of them but many
1:37:26
systems if you don't spell the word
1:37:28
right the search won't work this is a
1:37:31
high end tip do tell is this the issue
1:37:35
with squirrel methane it's not boolean
1:37:39
is just no reg X you can enter in there
1:37:43
no no wild cards you can try well
1:37:46
there's apparently no note he's my baby
1:37:48
I don't have I have looked I use Outlook
1:37:52
I have nothing nothing of use outlook
1:37:55
any nice and Phoenix Arizona 200 bucks
1:37:58
would thank you give her a car man we'll
1:38:00
of course you've got karma it is always
1:38:06
a good idea
1:38:06
that you both John and myself we'd
1:38:08
rather double up and have it twice then
1:38:10
then miss something yeah and I miss him
1:38:13
too I miss notes sometimes too so if you
1:38:15
bow if you send it to both of us even
1:38:17
though you can there is a field on
1:38:19
PayPal where you can enter it you just
1:38:20
have to keep your eyes open it's not
1:38:22
always apparent depending on what path
1:38:23
you choose right now but what happens I
1:38:25
think if you hit the return key I think
1:38:26
it sends it it's one of those I think I
1:38:29
don't know
1:38:29
yeah there's it's there is an interface
1:38:31
issue somewhere within that yeah okay
1:38:34
when you want to thank to all these
1:38:35
folks at 3 and 3 you have helping
1:38:37
produce show 1162 my name is Felix
1:38:44
Wilson and my daddy is a douchebag but
1:38:47
he wasn't always a douchebag life just
1:38:49
got in the way and now it makes me sad
1:38:52
to say this daddy
1:38:54
you're a douchebag you can easily cure
1:38:57
this in sir can you stop being a
1:39:00
douchebag go to the Warped or old /na
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and donate now no child deserves a
1:39:06
douchebag parent
1:39:09
Dvorak org slash and a well now that you
1:39:13
know that you may or may not want to
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join the Democrat Socialist of America
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profit formula is this we go out we're
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here people in the mouth
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1:39:37
and Thank You Felix answer Chris yeah
1:39:44
offcut well I'm not completely off topic
1:39:46
but there was a really funny our
1:39:49
interview with David Icke Oh a new one
1:39:52
yeah that's pretty new it's done that
1:39:54
called talk radio or something's one of
1:39:57
the channels and it's a very famous
1:39:58
interview whose name I can't remember
1:39:59
but he was he gave let Ike talk which is
1:40:02
instead of just making him look silly or
1:40:05
saying stupid things about what he was
1:40:06
had to say but I had this unusual tale
1:40:12
of woe because he talks about five G
1:40:14
pretty much with are the same but pinyin
1:40:16
of things that we have and and this is
1:40:20
his this a little long but it's worth it
1:40:22
because of the punchline this is five G
1:40:25
and trees we're talking about a
1:40:28
communications network you've heard of a
1:40:30
3G 4G we're not on to 5g David Icke the
1:40:35
alternative thinker on all of these
1:40:36
things was giving his view on that and
1:40:39
just to expand on that David well a few
1:40:42
one a few weeks ago there were hearings
1:40:44
on Capitol Hill in which representatives
1:40:48
of the telecommunications industry were
1:40:51
questioned there was a senator senator
1:40:54
Blumenthal
1:40:54
who asked them openly how much money
1:40:59
have you spent funding independent
1:41:04
research into the effects of the on the
1:41:10
body on health on psychology of 5g and
1:41:13
they sat there and had to admit not a
1:41:17
single cent and this 5g is being rolled
1:41:22
out so fast and it's it's not the same
1:41:24
it's if people think and I understand it
1:41:26
that they think it's just a step on from
1:41:30
4G it actually operates in another band
1:41:32
of frequency called millimeter waves and
1:41:35
because millimeter waves do not travel
1:41:39
very far instead of having like big
1:41:42
transmitters transmitting this stuff
1:41:44
over a long distance you're going to
1:41:46
have like they are having already as
1:41:48
they introduce it in America
1:41:50
little boxes on the lamppost down the
1:41:54
street pumping this stuff out and the
1:41:56
other thing is that this 5g doesn't
1:42:01
travel well through solid objects like
1:42:05
urban trees for instance are the worst
1:42:07
nightmare of 5g which kind of interests
1:42:11
me with this phenomenon that I'm picking
1:42:15
up all around the place not least in
1:42:17
Sheffield where thousands and thousands
1:42:20
of urban mature trees are being cut down
1:42:24
it caused a big big scandal in in
1:42:28
Sheffield when they kept on don't they
1:42:31
because they interfere with the
1:42:33
foundations of houses I you you right
1:42:36
interest well my brother is he's a bus
1:42:40
mechanic he goes he goes out he repairs
1:42:43
buses on the side of the road yeah so
1:42:44
he's constantly travelling all the time
1:42:47
every day and he said to me
1:42:49
independently this these big old trees
1:42:53
being cut down everywhere so yeah
1:42:57
whether that's connected you know I'm
1:43:00
open to that but the fact is 5g would
1:43:05
not like mature urban trees oh that's an
1:43:09
interesting take I never heard this
1:43:12
before I mean we got the bees is the
1:43:14
most recent thing that apparently kills
1:43:16
bees yeah but you know I've the number
1:43:18
of times I've seen the bee story and was
1:43:21
wet back when 4G came in with an in the
1:43:24
Netherlands I'm like okay and it's just
1:43:26
completely nonsense articles it's always
1:43:28
in the Netherlands usually birds I've
1:43:31
got the birds to the bees but the tree
1:43:36
thing is true it's true
1:43:38
that they're cutting here no I don't
1:43:40
know they're not cutting them down
1:43:41
around here because we haven't got 5g
1:43:42
but but it's true that the waves won't
1:43:45
penetrate a good tree sure no way it
1:43:49
would just gonna but there's somebody in
1:43:52
the chat room or not the chat room but
1:43:53
in the comments so no it's not about the
1:43:55
cutting the trees now for penetration
1:43:57
because we can get the 5g signals
1:43:59
through it's just that it'll be
1:44:01
noticeable
1:44:02
because the five g's killing district
1:44:04
trees will be killed
1:44:07
well a couple notes about that in the
1:44:11
United States it appears that most
1:44:14
telcos are not going on the
1:44:17
millimeter-wave
1:44:18
they're going in the so there's like a
1:44:21
longer wave this segment which is I
1:44:25
think it really isn't the five gigahertz
1:44:27
band which is closely equal to what some
1:44:30
Wi-Fi is at home the higher frequencies
1:44:33
I think those will be deployed in the
1:44:35
cities that's where they make the most
1:44:38
sense they don't make a lot of sense for
1:44:40
for real urban areas so it's a
1:44:44
difference I guess what I'm saying it's
1:44:45
a different situation in each different
1:44:46
country and I'm not sure what we're
1:44:50
really going to get in the United States
1:44:51
there was a presentation that was not
1:44:54
worth clipping because it was a boring
1:44:56
scientist with five minutes of slides
1:44:58
I'll put it in the show notes but he
1:45:00
says it's you know you're not really
1:45:02
gonna see the damage because the damage
1:45:04
is at a deeper level it's to your DNA
1:45:06
which of course is also something we've
1:45:08
heard about the backscatter
1:45:11
millimeter-wave body scanners at the
1:45:15
airports so I don't you know at this
1:45:18
point I don't know I don't know who
1:45:19
speaking the truth it's a I don't I
1:45:23
don't like any of it I only have one
1:45:26
Wi-Fi point in the entire house that's
1:45:28
it no other gimmicks got gadgets gizmos
1:45:31
no no more lights
1:45:33
none of this stuff I got rid of all of
1:45:36
it and just to keep in vein with the OTG
1:45:41
you know I've actually been Ted I told
1:45:43
you I was testing with the iPhone 5
1:45:45
cloaked and I'm very happy with the
1:45:48
results of this now of course I have no
1:45:51
apps I have only the the native apps
1:45:55
that get backup
1:45:57
all right cuz I can only can remember a
1:46:00
little bit of this but you ended up with
1:46:01
an iPhone 5 which a lot of people think
1:46:04
is the best iPhone ever made you must
1:46:07
almost say the for some will say the se
1:46:09
but for the iPhone 4 it only does 3g and
1:46:15
I don't want
1:46:16
five G but LTE 4G is kind of required if
1:46:20
you want to do anything and the whole
1:46:22
idea is to make this phone very
1:46:24
difficult and slow to you so you won't
1:46:27
use it because human nature is oh I'll
1:46:29
just I got my phone right here I'll just
1:46:30
look it up real quick so you don't want
1:46:32
that but in an emergency yes you do want
1:46:35
to be able to either use your phone as a
1:46:38
hotspot which the iPhone 5 will do or
1:46:42
you want to have some kind of bandwidth
1:46:44
and processor speed that will allow you
1:46:47
to use the built-in web browser now none
1:46:49
of this works unless you get what I call
1:46:52
the piehole for the iPhone which is the
1:46:55
security Pro app and there's multiple
1:46:57
ways to do it this is the way I chose to
1:46:59
do it and it you could set it up so it
1:47:01
doesn't let anything through or anything
1:47:03
out so the only I mean and you can watch
1:47:07
it you can see what it's blocking you
1:47:08
can see what the DNS requests are and
1:47:10
that's why I call it cloaked and I'm
1:47:12
very happy it's not pinging anything
1:47:14
it's not getting out of the machine no
1:47:16
no other there's no external apps to
1:47:19
Apple that are on it so I have email I
1:47:21
have text messaging I have a phone and
1:47:24
also this is the lowest end model
1:47:27
available that will pair with my hearing
1:47:30
aids so that was a big consideration and
1:47:33
because it's not pinging in or out the
1:47:36
battery lasts for five days yeah I was
1:47:39
gonna ask that
1:47:39
that's must be extended by quite a bit
1:47:43
those are big batteries in there and
1:47:45
they don't last a day normally here's
1:47:47
the problem though if you do use the
1:47:49
phone for web browser it's doing double
1:47:53
duty because it's also running this
1:47:55
relatively heavy process of stopping you
1:47:58
know it's duplicating DNS it's so it's
1:48:01
it's determining what needs to be
1:48:03
blocked or not so if you use it it's
1:48:05
going to deplete them faster than you'd
1:48:06
expect so you're not gonna use it that's
1:48:09
the whole point text messaging and
1:48:11
that's all I really use it for is text
1:48:12
messaging maybe just to check an email
1:48:15
from time to time and five days it's
1:48:18
fantastic I feel very safe at least from
1:48:23
Silicon Valley snooping as we know
1:48:26
that's the way that the government is
1:48:28
now looking at
1:48:30
you especially with these red flag laws
1:48:34
they just buy it from the from the
1:48:36
social media companies that buy it from
1:48:38
Google they buy it from the data brokers
1:48:40
they don't need to go spying you're
1:48:41
giving it up willfully so I'm gonna
1:48:44
write this up the iPhone the cloaked
1:48:46
iPhone 5 which is how I like to call it
1:48:48
I still I still love the Nokia e75 phone
1:48:56
5 maybe the way to go about a hundred
1:48:58
and fifty bucks on Amazon so it's a
1:49:00
comparable price
1:49:02
you're really not being of course you
1:49:04
have to turn off location and you know
1:49:06
don't install Google Maps just in case
1:49:08
you got no all of that has to go in fact
1:49:10
no Google site will work on my machine
1:49:13
because I blocked them all same for
1:49:15
Facebook Twitter all of those all those
1:49:17
those you know little widgets and pixels
1:49:21
all that's blocked I've done kind of the
1:49:24
same thing with my old Google phone and
1:49:27
I get my battery life's about I think
1:49:28
about two weeks that's pretty good
1:49:33
especially us because it's all all the
1:49:35
time now I have some bad news in the OTG
1:49:37
Department OTG stands for off the grid
1:49:40
is that we're both and I really learned
1:49:44
it from you
1:49:45
we're both big fans of over the air
1:49:48
digital television which we have here in
1:49:51
the United States yes every modern
1:49:54
television does it you get a like a $9
1:49:58
antenna it sticks right behind your ear
1:50:01
set on the wall and you can receive a
1:50:04
lot of Spanish and Asian that channels
1:50:07
but you're gonna feel a lot of
1:50:09
Vietnamese channel yes yeah you can you
1:50:12
can get you can get your you know your
1:50:15
your main network channels and it's it's
1:50:19
a good it's free it's just over the air
1:50:20
comes in for free so you can have maybe
1:50:22
one subscription service you want and
1:50:25
for all the other stuff you can it's
1:50:27
just it's out there and it's it's
1:50:29
digital it's high-definition and it's
1:50:32
also a non track system it's one way
1:50:35
it's broadcast so no one knows what
1:50:37
you're watching I shouldn't mention the
1:50:38
bandwidth is also higher than you get
1:50:40
from cable which is compressed this is
1:50:41
uncommon
1:50:42
rest with full stereo uncompressed video
1:50:45
is it's a better picture well they're
1:50:48
gonna fuck it all up well of course and
1:50:51
it's called ATSC 3.0
1:50:56
here is a Steve melter I don't know who
1:50:59
he is but he did a pretty decent
1:51:00
overview from the most recent National
1:51:03
Association of Broadcasters meeting in
1:51:04
Las Vegas on the new digital standard
1:51:07
which will not only replace this fine
1:51:10
non-trackable system that we're using
1:51:12
but it will be built into your phone
1:51:14
it's not just about a prettier picture
1:51:16
but it's about interactivity what can
1:51:18
you do with your TV set what sort of
1:51:20
experience can you have that will
1:51:22
compete with screaming or over-the-top
1:51:25
capabilities imagine your TV combined
1:51:28
with a set of early powerful apps all
1:51:30
happening on the same screen and using
1:51:32
the exact same remote very cool so let's
1:51:34
say you turn into your favorite show and
1:51:36
it started 20 minutes ago you could
1:51:38
start over again and watch that show
1:51:40
from the top instead of just basic video
1:51:42
on demand like we're used to right now
1:51:44
you could access a video on demand the
1:51:46
library for streaming including current
1:51:49
events or special programming maybe the
1:51:51
Super Bowl of the Grammys one of the
1:51:53
ATSC credo features is Dolby dialogue
1:51:56
enhanced and very cool you can actually
1:51:58
change the level of the dialogue without
1:52:00
affecting the background music or the
1:52:02
background noise by the way that's a
1:52:04
smart feature that's what kids need
1:52:06
maybe you're at a party you're at a bar
1:52:07
or you've got a bunch of kids playing
1:52:08
nearby you can't quite hear the dialogue
1:52:10
you just turn up the dialogue and it
1:52:12
doesn't affect anything else even the
1:52:14
programming guide is totally different
1:52:16
you don't just get what is coming up in
1:52:18
the future you can also see what
1:52:20
happened in the past and you can catch
1:52:21
up with shows that you missed but we can
1:52:22
do all this over streaming today but
1:52:24
imagine being able to do it over
1:52:26
broadcast network while you're watching
1:52:28
regular television let's say you're
1:52:31
watching a game
1:52:32
you want to know more about the stats in
1:52:33
the game of the players you just press a
1:52:35
button pops up in real-time same thing
1:52:37
if you're watching a television shows
1:52:39
that you want to know about the actor or
1:52:41
the director of the cinematographer you
1:52:42
just pull it right up and
1:52:43
picture-in-picture on live broadcast at
1:52:46
live television one of my favorite
1:52:47
things multiple viewer angles from the
1:52:49
camera let's say you're watching that
1:52:51
game you can command where you see that
1:52:53
broadcast coming from in live TV also
1:52:56
great for reality TV programming and
1:52:58
then you have coupons and promotions
1:52:59
that can be sent to you and your
1:53:01
favorite shows linked in to your
1:53:03
favorite content so much cool stuff told
1:53:05
you they fucked it up this is you're not
1:53:08
doing any of that well let me tell you
1:53:10
why they will because this is a
1:53:12
desperate of a final attempt to make
1:53:14
these frequencies usable before they
1:53:16
have to somehow you know be eliminated
1:53:19
or whatever it is because this is about
1:53:23
interactive ads about targeted ads I
1:53:27
won't bore you with all the technical
1:53:28
details but really you're getting stuff
1:53:31
in real time and they're adding all
1:53:33
kinds of gizmos
1:53:35
you know they've changed the compression
1:53:37
algorithm so I'm sure you're also gonna
1:53:39
lose some of the quality doesn't really
1:53:41
speak about that but that's how you'll
1:53:42
be able to separate out the middle
1:53:44
channel the center channel to enhance
1:53:47
dialogue which would be a feature these
1:53:49
days on anything that's how you'll get
1:53:51
multiple camera angles that's all live
1:53:53
events and then they will essentially
1:53:56
use the IP portion of your phone to
1:54:00
route packets if you're doing something
1:54:01
on demand or if you're catching up so
1:54:04
it's really only about a target
1:54:06
addressable advertising that's and he
1:54:09
doesn't mentioned this of course because
1:54:11
this is for the consumer this video but
1:54:14
they're doing it it is definitely
1:54:15
happening it's too expensive they're not
1:54:17
doing it well there's a lot of money and
1:54:21
the big companies who say they're doing
1:54:23
it so I think they're doing it they
1:54:25
everyone talks at big everyone's doing
1:54:27
it they always say they're doing it this
1:54:28
reminds me of the Ford you know and they
1:54:31
decided that they're gonna tell everyone
1:54:33
they're gonna do a six door full Ford
1:54:36
Explorer or whatever this giant thing
1:54:38
was and they show pictures of it and
1:54:41
everybody got all over they're doing it
1:54:43
so we have to do it so everybody like
1:54:44
started
1:54:45
these six door suvs no none of them came
1:54:50
to market but you know and it was all
1:54:51
because four was full of crap they
1:54:53
weren't gonna do it in the first place
1:54:54
and I think this is the same thing
1:54:55
they're not it's too expensive okay
1:54:58
we'll see I can wait I mean I did this
1:55:00
I've heard this the same thing about all
1:55:03
this interactive advertising and all I
1:55:05
have to do it
1:55:05
you're watching friends and during the
1:55:07
Friends era
1:55:08
you're watching friends and you want to
1:55:10
know what Rachel but they're actually
1:55:12
doing that today I mean in vid is doing
1:55:17
it today they are doing addressable
1:55:19
set-top boxes this is happening yeah a
1:55:21
set-top box version of it but
1:55:23
over-the-air is not gonna be affected by
1:55:26
this because it's not affordable I got
1:55:28
enough problems with the what's changing
1:55:31
the digital because some Ament in fact
1:55:34
sinclair broadcasting the cheapest group
1:55:37
amongst them all and they own most of
1:55:39
the stations in the country they were
1:55:41
didn't want to do that they made a big
1:55:44
fuss and push it up pushed it off as
1:55:46
long as they could before we went
1:55:47
digital which probably was a good thing
1:55:49
because that early days of HDTV was an
1:55:52
analog system which would have really
1:55:54
broken the backs of everybody all of
1:55:57
this tracking is causing changes in the
1:56:01
consumer marketplace we've had
1:56:03
alternative search sites for a long time
1:56:05
I use quant qwan T quant comm the seer X
1:56:12
which I liked a lot but I find there's
1:56:15
some security issues if you're not
1:56:16
hosting it yourself and you're still
1:56:18
very trackable and now the alternative
1:56:21
sites are coming out and attacking each
1:56:23
other of being of tracking and targeted
1:56:27
advertising and perhaps even being in
1:56:30
bid with the big shill this is the CEO
1:56:32
of the search company yippee Yankee
1:56:36
India Papa Papa India echoed yippee comm
1:56:40
and he's slagging off DuckDuckGo if
1:56:43
Google will bias censorship and privacy
1:56:45
concerns some Internet users are looking
1:56:48
to alternative search engine options
1:56:50
like DuckDuckGo one American you spoke
1:56:53
with Rich Granville CEO of private
1:56:55
search engine company yippee
1:56:57
and Ville says even search engines that
1:56:59
claim to provide privacy are still
1:57:02
sharing your data the search is the most
1:57:04
informative and the most influencing
1:57:06
media there is in the world
1:57:08
Google controls just about 90% of all
1:57:11
searches duck-duck-goose
1:57:12
talks about their privacy right they're
1:57:14
saying that we're a private search
1:57:15
engine well I mean if anybody has six
1:57:17
great developer tools they can go into
1:57:19
DuckDuckGo and they will see tracking
1:57:21
cookies in DuckDuckGo tracking cookies
1:57:24
are bits of data a website sends to a
1:57:26
computer through search engines like
1:57:28
Google or chrome that DuckDuckGo
1:57:31
advertises its search engine does not
1:57:33
track users is to granville highly
1:57:36
suspect and they offer targeted
1:57:38
advertising through the search engine so
1:57:40
if you search for plumber in your
1:57:41
particular city you're gonna get an ad
1:57:42
for plumbers in your particular city
1:57:44
it's called geo-located advertising so
1:57:46
if you are a private search engine you
1:57:49
cannot give have advertising that's geo
1:57:51
targeted you can only provide
1:57:53
advertising that is general a New York
1:57:55
Times article bolsters duck duck goes
1:57:57
claim that it does not track behavior
1:58:00
like other search companies writes The
1:58:02
Times
1:58:02
DuckDuckGo displays ads at the top of
1:58:05
each search page but unlike others it
1:58:07
does not track the online behavior of
1:58:10
its users to personalize the ads
1:58:12
Grandville says this is an odd claim but
1:58:15
what I can tell you is is that they have
1:58:16
targeted advertising and they have two
1:58:18
cookies on their site somebody's
1:58:20
tracking you DuckDuckGo may not be
1:58:22
tracking you on their servers which I
1:58:23
find hard to believe but certainly
1:58:25
they're handed an information off to two
1:58:27
other cookies and who knows what those
1:58:29
companies doing which I suspect is
1:58:31
Google and who Google is selling that
1:58:32
information to on down the line
1:58:34
DuckDuckGo has not responded - Oh a ends
1:58:36
requests for comments as of this
1:58:39
broadcast I also have not verified these
1:58:42
cookies by funded more interesting that
1:58:44
there's now competition in the
1:58:46
alternative search marketplace and this
1:58:48
to me actually sounded more like a
1:58:49
native ad I felt it was it was more it
1:58:54
was more advertorial than editorial or
1:58:57
investigative and it's on one American
1:58:59
news they must have to make their money
1:59:00
somehow I don't think many people watch
1:59:04
you know Trump recently gave them a big
1:59:06
plug oh really well then they up the
1:59:08
rates or something they gave them a
1:59:10
special so I'm not too sure about the
1:59:12
claims of VP ups I never heard of the
1:59:16
EPI well now you do and the search is
1:59:18
pretty good actually now they have a
1:59:21
consumer facing search but they're
1:59:23
really a search company they sell their
1:59:25
search capabilities to two companies I
1:59:31
haven't checked out any of the image
1:59:32
results or anything like that but it's
1:59:34
fast and it doesn't look into it but on
1:59:36
the native ad front and I just wanted to
1:59:38
share this last one but one of our
1:59:41
producer sent me a note and said hey you
1:59:42
know you could build an OTG phone really
1:59:45
cheap and and then you could use it as a
1:59:49
premium just look at the Wall Street
1:59:50
Journal they're selling it a Wall Street
1:59:53
Journal $70 smartphone so I'm like
1:59:56
really no I go over to the page it's a
2:00:00
five-minute video but this is fantastic
2:00:03
what could they possibly say about this
2:00:05
this is what a revolution introducing
2:00:07
the Wall Street Journal smartphone one
2:00:10
we don't have a splashy celebrity ad
2:00:12
campaign but we made this phone and all
2:00:15
it took was a short journey over the
2:00:17
border to a Chinese city just north of
2:00:20
us here in Hong Kong the city of
2:00:23
Shenzhen has become a mecca for
2:00:25
electronic pots and talent leading to
2:00:28
new Chinese brands coming up from
2:00:29
nowhere and grabbing market share from
2:00:32
Samsung and thanks the po river deltas
2:00:36
low-cost ready to go supply chain
2:00:38
building a custom smartphone is not that
2:00:41
difficult that's exactly how we made the
2:00:44
WSJ one which is only $70
2:00:47
Android has a touchscreen display front
2:00:51
and back camera fingerprint reader and
2:00:53
even takes two SIM cards and an SD card
2:00:57
there are thousands of factories in
2:00:59
China's pella River Delta region that
2:01:01
bill product I could play it for the
2:01:03
next five minutes it's a it's an ad for
2:01:05
Shin gens ready to go supply chain yeah
2:01:09
of course
2:01:10
it even tricked one of our producers
2:01:13
into thinking this was some kind of this
2:01:14
is a 70 cent smartphone by the way this
2:01:20
is really but there was no ad there's no
2:01:22
didn't say advertisement it was just
2:01:24
right there on a stop do it everyone
2:01:27
stop doing that you don't have to say
2:01:29
it's an ad anymore if you donated ad say
2:01:31
anything I thought you had to at least
2:01:34
disclose who would make this the
2:01:37
governmental advertising oversight
2:01:39
emergency borders nobody nobody's
2:01:47
noticing sometimes they slip it in
2:01:49
somewhere there's some little mention
2:01:51
there's a little it's like when you do
2:01:53
an April Fool's gag somewhere in there
2:01:56
you should have the alert bus leuf
2:01:59
spokeswoman right or you should have it
2:02:03
something some code date for one
2:02:05
whatever the year eight eight three
2:02:08
eight eight yeah hail Hydra it's like no
2:02:14
and there again there at the point now
2:02:16
where they're not gonna do this because
2:02:18
many outlets that you think that were
2:02:21
once legitimate news gathering
2:02:23
organizations or pretty much just native
2:02:26
ad organizations it's the way to go if
2:02:29
you're a publisher why should you even
2:02:30
be paying people why even have a
2:02:32
reporter when you could just buy some
2:02:34
native ads and put them up and I that
2:02:36
but instead of paying somebody they're
2:02:38
paying you by the way I made a mistake
2:02:45
yippy is why I ppy dot com and one
2:02:48
additional caveat I forgot to mention it
2:02:51
is powered by IBM Watson so now I know
2:02:55
no now I know it was an ad slow could be
2:02:59
slow and wrong but if
2:03:00
typing no agenda we're the first page
2:03:02
and that's all I care about
2:03:04
okay what that's a plus it's the most
2:03:05
important thing I'm running a little
2:03:09
late but in other words this is IBM
2:03:12
slipping into the game yo yeah I think
2:03:14
that's what it is
2:03:14
huh yeah well your IBM used to have I
2:03:18
remember about when I visited their
2:03:21
facilities in San Jose
2:03:22
they had a proprietary search engine
2:03:25
during the early era of Google that was
2:03:28
better than Google it was some it was
2:03:30
only used in-house and I kept asking us
2:03:32
who want you guys commercializes name
2:03:34
were you talking about that I remember
2:03:36
this story did some how did they not
2:03:39
like fold that into Lotus Notes or some
2:03:41
stupid stuff no they never did it never
2:03:43
got out anywhere as far as I can tell
2:03:45
but it was really a good ad a good bunch
2:03:47
of I guess had a lot of worms out there
2:03:49
digging around putting stuff together
2:03:51
and they had a server farm and but it
2:03:53
only was used internally I don't know
2:03:54
that it ever got into the wild maybe
2:03:56
this isn't it maybe this is it well you
2:03:58
know what we should do we should do the
2:04:01
ultimate Jhansi Dvorak search engine
2:04:05
test we go to hippie calm and we want to
2:04:09
say what is the best weed whacker weed
2:04:15
whacker that is the test and I'm going
2:04:17
to so powered by IBM Watson or their
2:04:19
public ticker symbol yippee why I Pio
2:04:23
didn't know though jeez all right we hit
2:04:26
it and what do we get search okay see
2:04:30
the first link best weed whackers of
2:04:32
2019 best string trimmers and it's all
2:04:38
reviews 2018 consumer search so it's not
2:04:42
giving me answers per se what is the
2:04:44
best badr battery-operated weed trimmer
2:04:47
you know what there's not that it
2:04:49
doesn't seem like there's any ads in
2:04:50
here which maybe that's good well
2:04:54
there's something going on something
2:04:57
called cluster they have cluster on this
2:05:00
is interesting anyway no everyone should
2:05:03
play with this for a while and report
2:05:05
back yes we have a lot of dudes named
2:05:06
herb and that are really good at this
2:05:08
stuff so let's stay in China for one
2:05:09
second even though we're running a
2:05:10
little behind I think we should do Hong
2:05:12
Kong yeah I have a few Hong
2:05:15
calling clips and I first I want to just
2:05:17
discuss Hong Kong for a second because
2:05:19
we got a lot of there I bet I looked at
2:05:20
a lot there is a lot of stuff out there
2:05:23
and it seems it did there's two theories
2:05:25
and I'm subscribing to one of them the
2:05:29
two theories are one that the PRC is
2:05:30
gonna come in and kick ass and they get
2:05:32
different guys discuss it I have a clip
2:05:34
that discusses it or the People's
2:05:37
Liberation Army the PLA and the other
2:05:40
one is and this one's the one that I'm
2:05:42
just subscribing to which is that the
2:05:46
Chinese have got a big event coming up
2:05:49
on October 1st that they wish is the
2:05:51
anniversary of 75th anniversary of the
2:05:53
People's Republic or 75th 75th I think
2:05:58
and they can't you know mess it up by
2:06:04
clamping down on it under Hong Kongers
2:06:07
at least until after that but one thesis
2:06:10
has it that they're just gonna let it go
2:06:13
and they're gonna maybe firelamb and
2:06:16
then pull back this other thing and then
2:06:18
just abandon Hong Kong and just leave it
2:06:20
to its own devices and then kind of very
2:06:22
slowly because the Chinese thinking long
2:06:25
term like thousands of years
2:06:26
pull the banks and put them in Shanghai
2:06:29
because they want to make Shane high the
2:06:30
world's banking center would right now
2:06:32
the honk you know or one of the world
2:06:34
banking centers to compete with London
2:06:36
and other places and and Zurich I guess
2:06:39
and and they're they're gonna they wants
2:06:42
Shanghai in New York and Shanghai they
2:06:45
want Shanghai to be the place where
2:06:47
they're gonna start pulling the Bank of
2:06:48
China and these other places to move
2:06:50
into Shanghai
2:06:51
very slowly however long it takes and
2:06:53
just kind of abandon Hong Kong and leave
2:06:56
it until it 2047 when they could just
2:06:58
walk would you know just open the
2:07:00
borders and all into place and I'm
2:07:03
inclined to think that this may be it
2:07:05
because a lot of the bitching and
2:07:07
moaning going on in China has less to do
2:07:09
with it the extradition bill than it
2:07:12
does the cost of housing yeah exactly
2:07:14
then people can't pay the rents at this
2:07:16
just before we get to your clips have a
2:07:18
short one this is from CCC TV and it is
2:07:23
about the accusations that the United
2:07:26
States of America
2:07:28
is behind or at least an agent
2:07:30
provocateur in these in these
2:07:35
demonstrations in Hong Kong and I have
2:07:39
see this is I don't know this guy I mean
2:07:43
I'm always wary when someone says I'm
2:07:45
from an institute so this is a Hudson
2:07:47
Institute you know with you know what
2:07:48
they stand for they're obviously a
2:07:50
talking point Factory thing the other
2:07:56
day they're there legit legit what well
2:08:00
I that's well this guy does say
2:08:04
something very interesting when the
2:08:05
accusation is queried in his direction
2:08:08
Chinese pro-democracy demonstrators have
2:08:10
taken to the streets in Hong Kong and
2:08:12
the Chinese media state-owned media has
2:08:15
said that it's all above the Americans
2:08:17
Johnny is now to make some sense of this
2:08:19
is dr. Michael Pillsbury senior fellow
2:08:22
of the Hudson Institute and former
2:08:23
Reagan administration official thanks
2:08:25
for joining us so what do you think it's
2:08:26
all the Americans fault it's not all our
2:08:28
fault but we're partially involved we
2:08:30
have a large consulate there that's in
2:08:31
charge with taking care of a Hong Kong
2:08:33
Policy Act passed by Congress to ensure
2:08:35
democracy in Hong Kong we also have
2:08:37
funded millions of dollars of programs
2:08:40
through the National Endowment for
2:08:42
democracy to help democracy in Hong Kong
2:08:44
so in that sense the Chinese accusation
2:08:46
is not totally false I liked and it is
2:08:51
the National Endowment for the Arts and
2:08:52
that's the one man that's that's
2:08:54
National Endowment for democracy a
2:08:57
democracy I'm sorry it's a big funder of
2:08:59
all kinds of shenanigans invite looked
2:09:02
at this and I thought I've looked at
2:09:04
this a number of times in the way I see
2:09:06
I've looked at their grant system I
2:09:07
think we can get money from them you and
2:09:09
I no agenda show this doesn't sound like
2:09:14
a good idea before you know you get it a
2:09:18
knock at the door it's like I want to
2:09:20
make sure you're a talking the right way
2:09:22
for this grant you've received no buy
2:09:26
veto I'm gonna look into it now there's
2:09:31
one other thing that maybe I don't know
2:09:34
if different jumping ahead or not but
2:09:36
China has some real economic financial
2:09:39
issues I was reading in the New York
2:09:41
there's a approximately 200 billion
2:09:44
dollars of IOU circling in the system
2:09:46
and if they actually are a piece of
2:09:48
paper with I owe you on it and now
2:09:50
that's become tradable by itself so do
2:09:54
the trading these IOUs at a lower price
2:09:57
than face value based upon that them
2:09:59
thinking a the company can pay that debt
2:10:03
or not we had a deflation of the
2:10:08
currency which is a an interesting move
2:10:12
it's a it's a move you at a certain
2:10:13
point need to make if you have problems
2:10:16
in the in the economy and this has been
2:10:18
such a huge overproduction
2:10:20
there's warehouses full of crap that
2:10:22
that we don't want to buy the Chinese
2:10:24
ghost cities even Chinese middle class
2:10:26
can't afford it right now people are
2:10:29
being laid off left and right this may
2:10:32
be an additional pressure tactic by us
2:10:35
and and I just want to add one more
2:10:37
thing we laughed about Clinton Hillary
2:10:40
Clinton's
2:10:41
techno experts in the State Department
2:10:43
I'm pretty sure when it comes to BOTS
2:10:45
and trolls we're doing most of the work
2:10:47
here in America course we're that we're
2:10:50
number one always foam finger number one
2:10:53
so next time someone talks you about
2:10:55
Russian BOTS who are you kidding
2:10:57
it's a state-sponsored battery and it's
2:11:01
us we're good so what do you think about
2:11:03
that part of it because China could
2:11:06
really roll into a recession if they're
2:11:10
not already in one further into a deep
2:11:13
present they're really good at
2:11:15
Liza Goering the number lying really
2:11:19
good at lying and they've done a pretty
2:11:22
good job of supporting their economy
2:11:24
with a technique I think it's quite AI
2:11:29
because of the lack of news coverage did
2:11:33
not draw attention to this especially
2:11:35
with the American public and Europe yeah
2:11:38
that makes me suspicious now we've got
2:11:40
our people behind this you know you guys
2:11:43
don't want to really write about this
2:11:44
right now and by the way when we're
2:11:48
ready we've got a first-class ticket for
2:11:50
you to go to Hong Kong and report on
2:11:53
about white supremacy why can't I take
2:11:55
you over and let's go to Jen Jen that's
2:11:59
the report on what's going on there
2:12:00
because that's your ready to
2:12:02
ready-to-wear pipeline whatever is ready
2:12:06
to go supply chain
2:12:07
yeah don't focus too much on all the
2:12:09
other stuff now here's the Hong Kong
2:12:11
underlying prop problem click clip and
2:12:14
where I got these two clips was from
2:12:16
CNBC which I realize they're the guys of
2:12:20
you know this is the investment
2:12:21
community CNBC has a very small audience
2:12:24
of investors that listen to this show
2:12:26
religiously or religious to all the
2:12:28
shows and they would be the guys who
2:12:29
bring some Hong Kong guy in to talk
2:12:31
about the numbers sure what the hell so
2:12:33
here we go here's Hong Kong underlying
2:12:35
problems which is what reiterates what
2:12:37
we had on the last show David it's
2:12:39
interesting what you're saying I mean
2:12:40
drawing parallels the dissatisfaction of
2:12:43
these protesters with other movements
2:12:45
we've seen around the world I think of
2:12:46
the yellow vest protests in Paris as
2:12:48
well it seems you're saying what started
2:12:50
out as a movement against the
2:12:51
extradition bill and frustration perhaps
2:12:53
with Beijing's control over the city is
2:12:55
really about dissatisfaction in general
2:12:58
with the quality of living in Hong Kong
2:12:59
so if that's the case how does the
2:13:02
government respond to this because
2:13:04
you're talking about Carol Ann being in
2:13:06
a bunker but it's one thing if you have
2:13:08
to solve dissatisfaction with the bill
2:13:09
it's a whole nother thing if you're
2:13:11
talking about dissatisfaction with
2:13:12
economic conditions and with very deep
2:13:16
roots I mean there are a lot innocently
2:13:19
from outside Hong Kong will believe this
2:13:21
is some sort of recent phenomenon if you
2:13:23
go back to 2003 and the demonstrations
2:13:26
very large demonstrations against the
2:13:28
the treason legislation article 23 and
2:13:33
then go forward to 2014 and the Occupy
2:13:36
movement this is a discontent that has
2:13:41
extremely deep roots and the first
2:13:43
source of anxiety or disappointment for
2:13:46
me is that in spite of 15 years of clear
2:13:49
evidence of what's going on the
2:13:51
administration clearly hasn't gone to
2:13:53
the roots to understand the heart of the
2:13:56
problem
2:13:57
this is a community but suffered quite
2:14:02
severe stagnation incomes have not risen
2:14:06
household circumstances have not
2:14:08
improved over a 30-year period in that
2:14:10
same time because of the post 2008
2:14:14
qualitative easing zero-interest
2:14:17
environment the holders of assets ie
2:14:21
profit properties and stocks remember
2:14:25
neither of those attacks tin in Hong
2:14:27
Kong owners of those assets have moved
2:14:30
forward including people like me who
2:14:32
owned a home we've been in you immunized
2:14:36
from this but those that don't have a
2:14:38
home and don't have assets have seen
2:14:41
their income stagnate and all assets
2:14:43
disappear over the horizon mm-hmm yeah
2:14:47
kind of sucks it's kind of happening
2:14:51
here too in some funny way yeah so you
2:14:55
got you know they don't have just a jet
2:14:58
there's a lot of people in Hong Kong
2:14:59
Millions and there they got screwed and
2:15:02
they're taking to the streets under any
2:15:04
excuse they can find and they've
2:15:06
developed all these great techniques to
2:15:08
battle the police that you know are
2:15:10
attacking them with umbrellas and they
2:15:13
got this this methodology when they have
2:15:15
a gas bomb that comes their way they put
2:15:17
a cone over it and then throw water in
2:15:20
the top of the cone and then stuff a rag
2:15:21
in the top they're using laser pointers
2:15:24
to thwart facial recognition you can
2:15:29
learn a lot and when they're done they
2:15:32
clean up the street now I think that's
2:15:36
fantastic
2:15:37
now here's the one that this is a new
2:15:40
idea I never thought of this but this is
2:15:41
just another guy is a different guy
2:15:43
thinks that this might be going on this
2:15:45
is the other could the Hong Kong fake
2:15:47
police clip message that if the knocking
2:15:51
situation here would deteriorate they
2:15:53
would consider using police or military
2:15:56
forces according to my information
2:15:59
shipping has still not yet made up his
2:16:02
mind whether to use the six million
2:16:04
strong People's Liberation Army Garrison
2:16:07
in Hong Kong
2:16:08
he is now focusing on the October 1st
2:16:11
celebration of the 70th birthday of the
2:16:14
people's work of China so before October
2:16:17
1st is highly unlikely that troupe may
2:16:19
be mobilized however there's a
2:16:22
possibility that the law enforcement
2:16:26
officials in Shenzhen and neighboring
2:16:29
areas they might be saying in Hong Kong
2:16:31
they will put on Hong Kong police
2:16:33
uniform and join the Hong Kong police
2:16:36
people in a joint effort to put down the
2:16:40
unrest and restore law and order this
2:16:43
might have happened already even though
2:16:44
we don't have a highly advanced evidence
2:16:47
to this effect great idea yeah you know
2:16:53
what this is this is finally a solution
2:16:55
to the homeless problem in America put
2:16:59
them in cop uniforms somehow it feels
2:17:03
right I don't know it could work for us
2:17:06
yeah wow that's nice thought of that but
2:17:10
so this is continuing and we'll cover it
2:17:13
nobody else seems to want to cover it
2:17:14
and for whatever reason it's possible
2:17:18
that it's it's a it's a something our
2:17:23
intelligence groups are behind in some
2:17:26
funny way but I don't think so this I
2:17:27
think this the first guy talks about
2:17:29
this is a diff Semmering this I mean we
2:17:31
may have to help trigger it but it's
2:17:33
they're really helping to sustain it or
2:17:36
to keep it going
2:17:37
yeah just to embarrass the Chinese for
2:17:40
their 70th anniversary no agenda imagine
2:17:46
all the people who could do with us oh
2:17:48
yeah that'd be fine
2:17:52
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we do a few bill thank for show 1162
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starting with Nissan or L I'm sorry
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she's no I'm sorry Larry may in
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Mooresville North Carolina 1 38 38 he
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should do something for him well this is
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before it includes the 88 88 Thank You
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this for congratulates for anniversary
2:18:18
Sir Roger on ice 88 88 these are people
2:18:20
congratulating me and me we're having a
2:18:22
meet-up today in Berkley it would be ad
2:18:24
hoc so it's not gonna be that many
2:18:26
people it's a good time to come Sir
2:18:28
Roger on ice Baroness Karen of the blue
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moon happy anniversary we're Ryan Brady
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88 88 Christopher gray charles schulz
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not the peanut charles schulz
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clay alchemy clay alchemist time what if
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this actually his name mark Hampton
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Robert Marsh no nervous it's the rubber
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marsh I know Eric Vaughn martyr in Van
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Nuys California and Sir Ronald Gardner
2:19:02
of the insane Diego and Eric is the
2:19:06
valley's Baron about there in calories
2:19:09
the valleys Marin sorry sir Eric then
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I'm on were with Richard Hufford at 800
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eight Mobe sorry
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yeah boob Oh boob yeah boob anonymous
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boob 800 eight
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Brian Pierson six 6.66 anonymous in the
2:19:31
Netherlands added this donation is for
2:19:34
Patrick big line because the issue this
2:19:36
year I effed up his birthday could you
2:19:38
say sorry for me okay done that's one
2:19:43
way of doing it yeah if you have to say
2:19:47
sorry about anything to anybody for any
2:19:49
reason boob donuts donation both of the
2:19:52
No Agenda show will read your note yeah
2:19:54
I'm a big boob boob donation yeah yeah
2:19:59
you stumbled onto a new source of their
2:20:02
income
2:20:04
yeah I'm not holding my breath
2:20:07
Brian pol you might be surprised
2:20:10
Brian period I'm putting the gauntlet
2:20:12
down Brian Pearson 66.6 six
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pair in water son I'm sweet off he's in
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Sweden please never stop okay yells
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kadai Jun Makowski 5510 hey guys
2:20:33
thanks Tim Lang in Mount Prospect
2:20:37
Illinois 5510 Matthew Durney 5432
2:20:43
Michael gates 5280 Eric Schmidt in Frank
2:20:49
fort deutschland since Josh karma works
2:20:53
sir milkman 5150 C note he'd the Orange
2:20:58
County Meetup yes they sent is that the
2:21:01
one who send this yeah there's somebody
2:21:03
sent I think was the Orange County
2:21:04
meetup sent it no a Tennessee meetup
2:21:06
scented sheet with a map of Tennessee
2:21:08
and signatures all over it
2:21:10
oh nice yeah and they sent two of them
2:21:13
one for you Oh does mine break no it's
2:21:19
got it I'll send it to you okay
2:21:22
Maxine Waters gravels back with 500 5 I
2:21:26
was overboard for one day vacationing in
2:21:29
Port Roberts Washington huh yeah I know
2:21:34
where it is
2:21:35
math is jokester I will not go into math
2:21:40
you Grice 50 the following people are
2:21:42
$50 donors name a location but he does
2:21:46
have a no I'm not sure you read anything
2:21:47
50 but it all I've got available right
2:21:49
now I'm afraid you're sending any more
2:21:51
my kid will be eating stale bread no no
2:21:53
I'm drinking out of the toilet for a
2:21:55
month so if you can see your way clear
2:21:58
to a deep douching in a health care we
2:22:00
do the health care at the end of d
2:22:01
douching now you've been deduced
2:22:07
Jonathan mah mayor Meyer in Xenia Ohio
2:22:12
Heather these are at $50 donors
2:22:14
Heather Rodriguez in Stockton California
2:22:17
Edward Mazurek in Memphis Tennessee
2:22:20
Larry hey in Mooresville North Carolina
2:22:22
think it's sore hair Larry
2:22:24
Tony Smith in Fort Worth Texas Ryan Gill
2:22:28
oh parts unknown
2:22:30
sir Jim Knight of the tug Hill plateau
2:22:35
and he has that got happy birthday we
2:22:38
got the call out there for you also have
2:22:40
the call out for Matthew that's
2:22:42
concludes its very short list today
2:22:44
unfortunately the Thursday's have not
2:22:46
been up to par I want to thank these
2:22:47
folks for helping us out on show 1162
2:22:50
well it's also very nice that people did
2:22:52
as some people did think of the
2:22:54
anniversary celebrations do it can I ask
2:22:56
how many years you have been together
2:22:58
and married now Plus this is 8888 the
2:23:02
chinese lucky number worth millions of
2:23:04
dollars as a license plate you could
2:23:08
figure it out 31 and they never had a
2:23:11
fight never had a fight no agenda
2:23:25
meetups calm website all sorted out we
2:23:29
this is growing much faster than I
2:23:31
thought it ever would and it's been I
2:23:33
think the Orange County meetup had 23
2:23:36
people and I encourage everyone to go to
2:23:39
no agenda meetups comm that's where you
2:23:41
can see pictures
2:23:43
I'm sure the Portland meetup also had
2:23:46
quite a good showing
2:23:48
so there are event pictures and and
2:23:50
people put in stuff in the descriptions
2:23:52
there what is what I can't do is people
2:23:55
sending me emails on show day saying hey
2:23:57
I'm organizing this and could you do a
2:23:59
mention it really has to all go through
2:24:01
no agenda meetups calm because there's a
2:24:04
you know Mimi's aren't Mimi and Eric the
2:24:06
shill are diligently working on this
2:24:10
actually the other guy who is doing that
2:24:11
site no but they are working with the
2:24:15
developer to make but you know they're
2:24:18
also coordinating and then they send the
2:24:20
information
2:24:21
to me so I what I'm saying is do
2:24:23
everything you need to do all the
2:24:25
promotional all the reviews so the
2:24:28
meetup reports this is very important
2:24:30
you can put them right there in your
2:24:32
meet up for that date and you know you
2:24:35
can send me an email if you want but
2:24:37
that's where I'm gonna get the
2:24:38
information from because we're seeing
2:24:39
meetups with 15 20 25 people again these
2:24:43
are completely organized by the value
2:24:46
for value network it's fantastic this
2:24:48
personal contact is more necessary than
2:24:51
ever today
2:24:53
well John you're going to one tonight
2:24:56
it's really it it will humanize you and
2:25:00
the good thing is like a I hate to say
2:25:02
it but it is a safe space it's no agenda
2:25:05
safe space you walk up to no agenda
2:25:07
people you can talk about anything
2:25:08
there'll be no judgment no triggering
2:25:10
just good conversation usually with some
2:25:12
fine libations and no agenda meetup.com
2:25:15
is where you can find out all of the
2:25:18
information for instance this evening
2:25:20
the Berkeley California meetup Sunday
2:25:23
evening Murfreesboro Tennessee August
2:25:25
10th Chicago
2:25:26
August 14th Warsaw in Poland August 15th
2:25:30
southeast London also meet up in
2:25:32
Dearborn Michigan August 17th in San
2:25:35
Antonio I think is that on the sadder
2:25:40
this is the problem if you want I don't
2:25:42
think I can come if it's a Saturday it's
2:25:44
it's not good charities are no good for
2:25:49
Adam or myself Saturday yeah but if you
2:25:52
do Friday we can do Friday Thursday's
2:25:55
good we're doing Thursday tonight
2:25:56
Thursday's good Friday's good probably
2:26:00
Monday's a good day but no one's gonna
2:26:02
go to mine our Sunday night would be
2:26:03
good maybe something that would work but
2:26:06
but Saturday can't you Saturday and
2:26:08
Wednesday it's not it just doesn't work
2:26:10
Wednesday is out and so is Saturday yes
2:26:13
it's our cuz we debts unless you don't
2:26:14
want to show what and I know that
2:26:18
doesn't make it easy for everybody but
2:26:20
we are there always there in spirit and
2:26:22
in fact you're high-quality downloadable
2:26:25
PDFs of our heads to cut out and put on
2:26:28
a stick we'll also be soon made
2:26:30
available in
2:26:32
No Agenda meet-ups Kampf just closing
2:26:35
out the list for August the 18th
2:26:37
Victoria BC the 22nd of August
2:26:40
Charleston South Carolina August 23rd
2:26:42
Salem Oregon the 25th Lincoln Nebraska
2:26:44
and on the 31st Busan South Korea and
2:26:49
Sao Paulo to meetups and again go to no
2:26:52
agenda meetups doc I should mention that
2:26:55
Eric maybe and Mimi probably are going
2:26:59
to the Victoria media I would love to go
2:27:01
to that meetup but that's great yeah
2:27:04
yeah well that's it's a Sunday so that
2:27:08
would work if you're out there well I'd
2:27:10
have to do the show there I know how
2:27:13
annoying I could do the show there but I
2:27:16
said and again I said had to lose it
2:27:18
would be complicated for me to go that
2:27:23
hey do it move the Victoria BC made up
2:27:27
to Berkeley and I wanna do it on Sunday
2:27:29
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2:28:05
the birthday list for today is the 8th
2:28:07
of August 2019 Matthew fry says happy
2:28:11
birthday to his smokin hot wife she'll
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be celebrating on the 24th sir Jim
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Knight of the tuck Hill plateau says
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happy birthday to Aimee Burlingame dame
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Karma's is that what you were gonna say
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2:28:35
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thank you again for everybody this is
2:30:37
the only way it works after all it is
2:30:39
your show your show your show few things
2:30:47
that we haven't discussed okay I do have
2:30:50
one of these side clips that we could
2:30:52
use it's like an evergreen all of a
2:30:53
sudden where I have now the CEO of the
2:30:56
National Public Media on a podcast
2:31:00
well now National Public Media is what
2:31:02
yeah that's what I said okay
2:31:06
- '''l public media is an arm of
2:31:09
National Public Radio oh this is the
2:31:12
compare that ones who sells ads yeah
2:31:15
it's the commercial end of the spectrum
2:31:17
yes yes so we you know we've talked
2:31:20
about this before that most of these
2:31:21
so-called public radio you know they'd
2:31:24
ask for donations but they also why are
2:31:27
they asking for donations when they're
2:31:28
doing their commercial it doesn't make
2:31:31
any sense to me why anyone would give
2:31:32
them money they should be giving it to
2:31:34
people that aren't
2:31:35
like ourselves that we don't have you
2:31:37
know people buying ads for the no gender
2:31:39
than asking for money - do you want me
2:31:42
to play the advertise the NPRM for
2:31:45
advertising clip first the the Evergreen
2:31:47
yeah let's play that first then we'll
2:31:49
play this and it just reiterates in a
2:31:51
different way the same thing only as
2:31:53
newer well this is when these they did
2:31:57
they just have the brand new CEO the
2:31:59
woman who came from BBC I think wasn't
2:32:01
yeah no she can't board New York Times I
2:32:03
forget where she came but she went off
2:32:04
and did something else but this is a yes
2:32:07
she was being course she was talking
2:32:08
about revenue being down and what the
2:32:10
problems were
2:32:10
Richard shit shit what that's the wrong
2:32:15
clip I throw that whole damn setup are
2:32:18
you kidding me
2:32:19
you did it big this has happened to you
2:32:21
a number of times you're cursed I hate
2:32:25
myself for this and it's a curse so let
2:32:27
me tell you I I actually I actually
2:32:31
dreamed labeled this thing because I had
2:32:34
such a hard time finding it and now
2:32:37
you've relabeled it to oblivion I feel
2:32:40
so stupid well just cut that out oh let
2:32:46
me make a mark here I'll cut that out
2:32:48
I'll fix that in post okay done so let's
2:32:52
just pretend you heard that very funny
2:32:56
Wow
2:32:57
I can't believe she said call it
2:32:59
advertising whatever you want to call it
2:33:01
man do you have it no I'm gonna I'm
2:33:06
gonna put it in post I told you and by
2:33:08
the way would I do all the time which is
2:33:12
I put it someplace where I know I won't
2:33:15
lose it
2:33:17
how come you moved it from the kitchen
2:33:20
table it's been on the kitchen table for
2:33:21
three months well I'm booted to
2:33:24
someplace where I knew I wouldn't lose
2:33:26
it wait a min you'll never find it again
2:33:28
in your whole life you have to say why
2:33:30
do we delude ourselves with this sort of
2:33:33
dump so now you need to say wow that's a
2:33:37
great that's a great glass let's just
2:33:42
skip that and we'll go to this clip
2:33:44
which is the newest clip and this is
2:33:46
another examine by the way this guy's a
2:33:48
there's on a podcast that they're
2:33:50
putting out in this guy's like a podcast
2:33:52
junkie and he's talking about the Golden
2:33:54
Age of podcasting him--had casting
2:33:55
podcasting podcast and he's got this
2:33:57
woman on here we go
2:33:58
joined by Jeana guru Boeing CEO of
2:34:00
National Public Media and we are gonna
2:34:02
talk all things audio this Golden Age of
2:34:04
audio that we're inching and welcome
2:34:05
thank you Brian it's great to be here
2:34:08
okay so let's get let's get one thing
2:34:10
out of the way first and that is
2:34:13
national public media I always get
2:34:15
confused when it's national public media
2:34:17
and then it's NPR and and if there's a
2:34:21
difference what's that difference is
2:34:23
National Public Media's the sponsorship
2:34:26
subsidiary of NPR we have an entire team
2:34:29
that helps bring corporate sponsorship
2:34:32
to our member stations and then another
2:34:34
team and PR corporate sponsorships just
2:34:37
dedicated to driving sponsorship for NPR
2:34:40
across all their platform so money yes
2:34:43
is not the sort of the government funded
2:34:48
sponsorship brand advertiser world that
2:34:55
sounds a lot like this clip okay move it
2:34:57
on to money how our NPR is corporate
2:35:00
underwriting revenues holding up in the
2:35:02
recession and what about foundation
2:35:04
grants two different stories
2:35:07
underwriting is corporate underwriting
2:35:11
is is down it's down for everybody
2:35:14
I mean this is this is the this is the
2:35:16
area that is most down for us this isn't
2:35:18
isn't sponsorship underwriting
2:35:20
advertising call it whatever you want
2:35:24
this other lady now I I knew I haven't
2:35:28
spoken to her in years
2:35:29
yeah I had someone on my sales team when
2:35:32
I did the top 30 hit list which was a
2:35:34
nationally syndicated top 40 cap top 30
2:35:38
countdown show everybody with out of
2:35:39
curiam TV guys at Pepsi was the main
2:35:45
sponsor if I recall
2:35:46
and I think Reebok at at one point but
2:35:49
we had sales people and they would sell
2:35:51
for multiple they sold for Rush Limbaugh
2:35:53
they sold for my show and and this one
2:35:56
woman her sole job or the outside of you
2:35:59
know this was selling
2:36:00
National Public Media and she said I
2:36:03
talked about it it's exactly like any
2:36:06
other radio sales job
2:36:08
the biggest frustration is there's not
2:36:10
enough inventory because it's you know
2:36:12
you only have so many places where they
2:36:14
can say brought to you by so they jack
2:36:17
up the rates but they don't have they
2:36:19
can't create more inventory and maybe
2:36:21
they've done it now with online that
2:36:22
they've been able to add to that mix but
2:36:25
for the pure radio side it's sold just
2:36:28
like regular radio advertising and
2:36:30
they've got a lot of things in there
2:36:31
that are if he like calls to action go
2:36:33
to this slash this on the site just
2:36:35
short of giving you a promo code
2:36:38
basically yep so the fourth route this
2:36:44
is a greatest scam in the country yeah
2:36:46
they're full of crap and I heard Bernie
2:36:48
Sanders on Joe Rogan I don't I don't
2:36:53
want there's no clips that I thought
2:36:54
what I mean he was boring I got a good
2:36:56
clip okay will you hold on about your
2:36:59
story first with my clip has got a
2:37:01
double faux pas by Bernie yeah but I
2:37:04
would let me gonna play it what you said
2:37:06
you said tell me your story then you go
2:37:08
into leading into your clip okay yeah
2:37:12
you're right it's a mistake so the one
2:37:16
thing he said is in other countries they
2:37:19
give each party half an hour of
2:37:22
television time so you can go to
2:37:24
whatever you want you want the word talk
2:37:26
about the healthcare you want to talk
2:37:27
about student debt whatever you want
2:37:29
that is how democratic is Iran now what
2:37:34
he neglected to say is these are was
2:37:35
even like in England they do this in
2:37:37
England they have to give it to him yeah
2:37:40
it's a state-run Corporation the same in
2:37:43
Europe the state-run television stations
2:37:46
the you know the the desh that those are
2:37:50
the ones who are letting you do that and
2:37:51
there's all kinds of stipulations but
2:37:54
turn it around
2:37:55
why wouldn't NPR be doing that here in
2:37:58
America why wouldn't PBS do be doing it
2:38:00
you know why because they're corporately
2:38:02
sponsored that's why there's nothing
2:38:05
public about it as we just
2:38:09
I agree well I realize what you think of
2:38:13
my Burnie am I getting there well never
2:38:17
mind
2:38:19
it sounds like somebody and I'm not sure
2:38:24
who it sounds like but does this shot it
2:38:25
doesn't sound like Burnie it sounds like
2:38:27
a generic character but it's not quite
2:38:29
Burnie ish
2:38:30
oh we're not I'll work on it well I
2:38:33
don't have the clip you're just gonna
2:38:38
talk about the clip this is a teaser for
2:38:41
the sunday show Oh the other Thursday
2:38:44
okay the other Thursday the next
2:38:46
Thursday show it'd be on Sunday yes and
2:38:49
I will have that uh yeah we do have some
2:38:52
good news as kids apparently this Caban
2:38:54
woman who is going to I do have a clip
2:38:57
of this it was this oh this is the the
2:38:59
Republican running wants to run against
2:39:01
AOC in Brooklyn the bond is the
2:39:04
socialist DSA woman who wanted to take
2:39:08
over the district attorney's you know
2:39:12
and she was gonna legalize prostitution
2:39:15
and take the police off the street and
2:39:17
release all the prisoners this sounds
2:39:19
great
2:39:20
she I was thinking that she almost won
2:39:24
and they announced that she won on
2:39:26
democracy now we played that clip before
2:39:27
but it turns out she lost so let's
2:39:30
listen in New York City Tiffany Caban
2:39:32
conceded Tuesday to Melinda Katz in the
2:39:35
race to become the Democratic nominee
2:39:37
for the Queen's District Attorney Gabon
2:39:39
appeared to narrowly win the race
2:39:40
election night but a paper count saw her
2:39:43
lose her lead by a razor thin margin in
2:39:46
the final tally she lost to Queens
2:39:48
borough president Melinda Katz by just
2:39:51
55 votes after a judge refused to
2:39:55
reinstate the discarded ballots cabins
2:39:57
campaign was fighting for Caban a public
2:40:01
defender and Democratic Socialist ran on
2:40:03
a progressive platform of ending cash
2:40:05
bail decriminalizing sex work and going
2:40:07
after bad landlords police officers and
2:40:10
immigration authorities she vowed to
2:40:12
keep fighting to reform the criminal
2:40:14
justice system tweeting quote we showed
2:40:16
that you can run on a boldly D carceral
2:40:19
platform you don't have to compromise
2:40:21
your values or give
2:40:22
- fear-mongering you don't have to play
2:40:24
by the old rules she said yeah
2:40:28
yeah how'd that work out well she barely
2:40:31
lost by 50 votes Oh
2:40:33
how many votes were there about 98 no
2:40:39
she just barely lost I mean it's a
2:40:41
miracle
2:40:41
I think they rigged the vote to get cuz
2:40:43
they couldn't take a chance on this with
2:40:45
she got in it would have it would have I
2:40:47
may be great for the show but it would
2:40:51
have been unbelievable what would happen
2:40:53
but she didn't so I have a question just
2:40:56
a random question how come there's never
2:40:58
a mass shooting at a car DA party in the
2:41:02
Hamptons see it seems like that would be
2:41:06
the place to make an impact you know
2:41:07
they'll go shootin poor people Walmart
2:41:11
well they have a you know you do have a
2:41:14
lot of polio match the polo match yeah
2:41:17
you have a lot of hired help at these
2:41:19
events yeah so it would be very easy for
2:41:23
the hired help to be one of them be a
2:41:25
radical with the with a machine gun okay
2:41:27
we should probably stop John the Trump's
2:41:30
read law Gestapo are gonna come and get
2:41:32
us if we talk like this now see now if
2:41:36
these guys are so good at doing all this
2:41:38
read this and read laws and all and they
2:41:41
can track us and we're already under
2:41:42
incredible surveillance that for
2:41:44
surveillance state how come we don't
2:41:46
stop any of these things because it
2:41:50
doesn't really work yeah it only works
2:41:53
after the fact and because the algos are
2:41:55
really not all that good at all all the
2:42:10
algos don't work but they can predict
2:42:11
global warming yes hey there's a big you
2:42:17
know I'm in the I'm in the indoor
2:42:20
cycling community known as spinning as
2:42:23
you know as you know I know I have a
2:42:26
clip I have a clip yeah well I have an
2:42:30
old clip deal spinning clip once you
2:42:32
play it the old spin did you the old
2:42:35
spinning clip
2:42:36
there's an old spinning clip look up
2:42:38
spinning you'll find it uh okay
2:42:41
spin or spinning spinning oh well
2:42:46
there's a couple of them actually let me
2:42:50
see what was this one the other one this
2:42:58
one what is happening it's amazing you
2:43:02
can convince huh I had an old spinning
2:43:06
clipping plaited a couple of times on
2:43:08
the show
2:43:08
it describes spinning I think that's
2:43:11
what it was it's a comedic routine yeah
2:43:13
yeah I'm not gonna play that you're
2:43:16
trying to embarrass my my sport I won't
2:43:19
stand for this
2:43:21
does anyone win or you just sit around
2:43:23
and tell a secret we hold hands and we
2:43:27
tell each other secret exactly and
2:43:29
remember to put your arms up and bring
2:43:32
it all down to heart center have a great
2:43:34
day everybody so there's a controversy
2:43:37
in the spinning world now I spend
2:43:40
locally that at ride which is a local
2:43:44
Austin born and bred small spinning
2:43:47
corporation I would never go to the
2:43:49
overlords of SoulCycle those phonies
2:43:52
over there with their candles in the
2:43:54
spin class but especially this weekend
2:43:57
where it's pride in Austin can you
2:44:00
believe soul cycles are empty also
2:44:04
tonight backlash is growing against
2:44:06
equinox and solstice revealed their
2:44:09
billionaire owner is set to hold a
2:44:11
fundraiser for the president as our
2:44:13
Stephanie Gosk reports he has some
2:44:14
celebrities calling for a boycott and
2:44:16
customers canceling memberships high-end
2:44:20
fitness brand equinox gyms got their
2:44:23
members heart rates racing in an
2:44:25
entirely different way today criticism
2:44:27
and threats to boycott the gym and it's
2:44:29
spinning studio soul cycle came flooding
2:44:32
in after word broke that the
2:44:33
corporation's owner billionaire Stephen
2:44:36
Ross is holding a lavish fundraiser for
2:44:39
president Trump later this week
2:44:40
talk-show host Andy Cohen raged outside
2:44:43
a gym so
2:44:45
equinox and solstice rump campaign but
2:44:51
later added he was keeping his
2:44:53
membership everybody's whatever Equinox
2:44:58
says neither Equinox nor SoulCycle have
2:45:00
anything to do with the event and do not
2:45:02
support it in a statement Ross writes I
2:45:05
have always been an active participant
2:45:07
in the democratic process
2:45:08
I've known Donald Trump for forty years
2:45:10
and while we agree on some issues we
2:45:13
strongly disagree on many others
2:45:15
it's the latest example of people using
2:45:18
their wallets as political hammers so
2:45:20
I'm recently boycotted Nike for removing
2:45:23
a line of shoes with the Betsy Ross flag
2:45:25
and multiple student blah blah blah but
2:45:29
I will be monitoring the situation here
2:45:31
in Austin for it is my belief that
2:45:32
soul/psyche will have to close because
2:45:36
of this could be and I'm going to tell
2:45:38
you something interesting out a bunch of
2:45:46
people in Texas you're his brother his
2:45:50
brother the one with the beard Joaquim
2:45:52
is the brother well he's got now he's
2:45:54
got blond hair he's changed his hair
2:45:56
colors he's got a tattoo his face like
2:45:58
Tyson and I think he's going to
2:46:00
eventually go trans personally that's
2:46:03
what I think now and then he did his
2:46:06
brother a follow later and people be
2:46:08
confused like off skis I think did this
2:46:10
now once he outed these people and did
2:46:14
this and this is gonna happen with the
2:46:16
soul cycles to the media is going to the
2:46:19
media which is stupid is going to have
2:46:21
to realize that you can't do this
2:46:24
because that means it's gonna slow down
2:46:26
on donations people aren't gonna want to
2:46:28
donate because they don't want to be
2:46:29
outed cuz it's very easy to do cuz all
2:46:31
the donations are listed on this website
2:46:33
if you want out somebody say oh let's
2:46:36
our local barber is is donated the max2
2:46:39
Trump and he's a lousy guy and he won't
2:46:42
donate again and it's gonna be not just
2:46:45
for Trump's campaign no but people gonna
2:46:48
stop donating to any campaign who's
2:46:50
gonna be hurt who is hurt by the
2:46:52
donations slow down Jared Kushner the
2:46:55
people are gonna be hurt are the media
2:46:58
the media won't get their money and so
2:47:02
you can't let this even be part of the
2:47:05
news cycle you've got to put a lid on it
2:47:07
you gotta have the good point good point
2:47:11
you're gonna have to condemn Castro get
2:47:14
him he won't even be on the debates
2:47:15
we're after the next one but for Duke
2:47:17
for pulling this stunt and then doubling
2:47:19
down on it anybody in the media that in
2:47:22
other words the guys who have a clue the
2:47:23
higher end in the media
2:47:25
what are we letting this guy get away
2:47:27
with this for cuz that money is our
2:47:29
money now mind you it was his brother
2:47:32
who's not running who did it it's our
2:47:37
money I don't care whose brother it was
2:47:39
that guy's done he's out I think you
2:47:43
make a very good point and we'll see how
2:47:46
that goes the research was done he's
2:47:49
toast the reason I said when I said
2:47:53
Jared Kushner is for something else I
2:47:56
learned about recently you know the
2:47:59
Democrats Democratic National Committee
2:48:03
pretty much used this as I think it's is
2:48:06
it chair blue yeah cher blue so all the
2:48:10
donations all run through one company
2:48:13
and they do the they have a website yes
2:48:16
and they do the payment processing and
2:48:18
I'm pretty sure they also write the chip
2:48:20
in email since it's all Donald Trump had
2:48:28
a COO and created win read and win red
2:48:33
is it was set up by Kushner he brought
2:48:36
in I think the guy from stripe yeah I
2:48:41
think it was stripe to run it that was
2:48:45
there that's a credit process credit
2:48:47
card processor and Trump has now
2:48:50
finagled this win read into being the
2:48:53
central place for all Republican Party
2:48:59
donations to all run through win read
2:49:02
nice well what's nice is they probably
2:49:06
are using I mean they have all the
2:49:10
information now they know everything of
2:49:12
you they've got your credit card they're
2:49:13
taking a 6% cut so probably about three
2:49:19
deems hi yes hello
2:49:21
it's um I think it's a ripoff it sounds
2:49:26
like it and I don't think it's very cool
2:49:28
and no one's reporting on it of course
2:49:31
well I'll look into well it's probably
2:49:34
comparable to what the big blue whatever
2:49:37
that up wide I bet you it similar cuz I
2:49:41
don't think they would overdo it they
2:49:42
don't want to be cuz then if you compare
2:49:43
one it might be a setup so you have to
2:49:45
compare the other what but what win cuz
2:49:48
I have you know I mean the share blue
2:49:50
system because I always donate to both
2:49:51
sides although I don't vote for either
2:49:53
side as unaffiliated as I am but I'd
2:49:58
like to get all the emails and really
2:50:01
this win win red outfit I noticed the
2:50:04
difference because all of a sudden I was
2:50:05
getting text messages from them with
2:50:07
links and it's it's several a week and
2:50:09
it's like the president wants you at
2:50:11
dinner and they got a match we got a
2:50:14
match I mean consistently fundraising
2:50:18
within you know and and all you have to
2:50:20
do is say yes and that odd they
2:50:23
automatically deduct from your card on
2:50:25
file which they don't have anymore
2:50:27
because I haven't donated anyone this
2:50:29
year and that credit card expired so you
2:50:35
know but the Trump Organization
2:50:36
especially this Weasley Kushner I think
2:50:39
they're making some money on this could
2:50:41
be and this stripe guide seems kind of
2:50:44
untrustworthy but I more reporting on
2:50:47
that on on Sunday I've got to dive a
2:50:49
little bit deeper but I've been meaning
2:50:51
to mention something about it it's kind
2:50:54
of douchey at the point is I was making
2:50:55
it was different which now I know I know
2:50:57
it was done there's no doubt about it I
2:51:00
think that's a very valid point well
2:51:03
maybe they threw this you know let's
2:51:05
focus on this let's
2:51:07
let's boycott SoulCycle I think they're
2:51:11
public aren't they public I have no idea
2:51:14
there that holds that whole part of
2:51:17
society to be yeah I got one more thing
2:51:25
unless you have something else well I
2:51:27
guess some stuff but I think I can move
2:51:29
it I do want to talk about that that
2:51:31
Jessica woman guy Jonathan up in Canada
2:51:35
yes Megan making a mess up there and
2:51:38
they have a bunch of clips about it but
2:51:40
mostly the clips aren't so much about
2:51:41
her this is the woman who isn't it she's
2:51:45
exploiting Canadian law and in Canada if
2:51:47
you say you're a woman then by law
2:51:50
you're a woman and even if you're a
2:51:52
podcaster or a youtuber you can't deny
2:51:55
that you can actually be penalized yeah
2:51:58
you can be fined or jail yeah so this
2:52:04
Jonathan character who seems to be some
2:52:06
sort of a character and being all caps
2:52:11
he is exploiting the Canadian sister the
2:52:16
Canadian laws and and he seems to be he
2:52:20
just says he's a woman he said he's
2:52:22
never taken hormones he doesn't he puts
2:52:24
the lipstick on and he wears a dress
2:52:25
once in a while but not always and he
2:52:28
says he's a woman therefore he should be
2:52:30
able to get his because he's a woman by
2:52:33
his own statement that means his
2:52:36
genitalia are women's genitalia cuz he's
2:52:41
a woman and they're although that's a
2:52:43
dick and balls and so he is demanding to
2:52:46
be waxed by the various operations in
2:52:51
Canada that do Brazilians by the way in
2:52:54
what you said earlier by saying he that
2:52:58
can get you find in Canada yes this is
2:53:02
true in fact we have the couple lawyers
2:53:04
talking about there but I'm not in
2:53:05
Canada right now and everybody who's
2:53:08
paid any attention in the New Republic
2:53:09
did a greatly good article on this and
2:53:11
they refer to him as he cuz if that's
2:53:13
face reality
2:53:15
but the Canadians because he'd
2:53:17
self-identify self-identified not having
2:53:19
just you just say you're a woman you're
2:53:22
a woman and so now he's making a fuss
2:53:24
and suing everybody he already put a
2:53:26
couple of these little salons which are
2:53:27
business out of business and some woman
2:53:30
he even extorted $2,500 from someone to
2:53:32
just get him off his case and so some
2:53:34
legal eagles are all on it and they're
2:53:37
you know fighting back and what I have a
2:53:41
are clips that discuss the legal
2:53:43
weirdness of Canada in regards to this
2:53:46
character and I'm gonna save those for
2:53:48
some oh no I want to hear them okay I
2:53:52
got him let's go let's start with let's
2:53:58
go with Human Rights decide there's four
2:54:00
three clips and I'm gonna play them all
2:54:02
now because because he demanded it human
2:54:04
rights discussion this is a very good
2:54:06
clip we've got two conflicting ideas of
2:54:10
human rights and two conflicting ideas
2:54:12
of equality and I think it's the same in
2:54:15
the United States there's a more
2:54:18
traditional understanding of human
2:54:19
rights which is a classical liberal
2:54:21
approach which is that my my human
2:54:23
rights fundamentally are about my right
2:54:25
to be left alone by government so I can
2:54:30
practice my religion I can say what I
2:54:31
want to say I can associate with whom I
2:54:33
want to associate I can own and enjoy
2:54:37
the fruits of my labor by way of private
2:54:39
property rights so my human rights don't
2:54:42
really conflict with other people's
2:54:43
human rights is simply a right to be
2:54:44
left alone by government and that's also
2:54:48
the older idea of we're all equal before
2:54:52
the law but there's not necessarily an
2:54:54
equal outcome because some people are
2:54:56
more talented some people work harder
2:54:58
some people are smarter people make
2:55:01
different choices good choices bad
2:55:02
choices and at the end of the day we're
2:55:05
not all equal in terms of our our
2:55:08
appearance or how much money we make or
2:55:11
all kinds of other factors so the older
2:55:14
idea was you know free people are not
2:55:16
equal and equal people are not free and
2:55:17
I think that still holds true today but
2:55:20
now the new notion of human rights is it
2:55:25
it's kind of a change too
2:55:28
human ambitions human demands human
2:55:30
entitlements said you know I I have a
2:55:32
right to to be sold goods and services
2:55:38
and and nobody can turn me down or I I
2:55:42
have a right it's become an imposition
2:55:44
on other people yeah it's one thing for
2:55:47
you take the example gender identity
2:55:49
gender expression under the old idea of
2:55:51
human rights the classical liberal idea
2:55:53
every person has the freedom to dress up
2:55:56
whoever they want so if a man wants just
2:55:58
to call himself a woman dress up as a
2:56:00
woman
2:56:01
okay that's your human right to dress up
2:56:03
as you please but the new human rights
2:56:06
extends to what other people have to
2:56:09
agree with yourself conception and have
2:56:11
to affirm your own beliefs that you
2:56:14
really are a woman and other people have
2:56:16
to treat you like a woman and that's
2:56:18
that's a big leap away from the the
2:56:21
traditional understanding of human
2:56:23
rights and are they teaching this in K 1
2:56:25
through 12 oh yeah
2:56:27
absolutely in fact you exhibited a good
2:56:29
quality when you called me out for
2:56:31
calling this guy a him he when he says
2:56:35
he's a girl I should be now I'm required
2:56:37
by law in Canada you mentioned this
2:56:39
yourself I have to call them a she so
2:56:42
it's an imposition on me let's play this
2:56:43
clip this is the huh the this is the
2:56:46
next clip which is the hierarchy of
2:56:48
rights but what's happened in in recent
2:56:50
decades is you've got more and more
2:56:52
conflicts between sexual orientation and
2:56:56
religion like in the United States
2:56:58
you've got the the cake decorator cake
2:57:01
Baker saying look I'll gladly serve gay
2:57:05
and lesbian clients but I'm not going to
2:57:07
participate in a same-sex wedding and
2:57:10
make the cake because that's contrary to
2:57:12
my religious conviction and the US
2:57:15
Supreme Court ruled in favor of the the
2:57:17
Baker in that case in Canada the courts
2:57:20
would far more likely rule in favor of
2:57:23
the of the customer that was denied the
2:57:25
cake but that is a real conflict there
2:57:28
between somebody wanting I think
2:57:31
legitimately to practice their religion
2:57:33
and live out their faith
2:57:36
versus you know some of the demands and
2:57:40
so there's always lots of clashes
2:57:42
between the LGBTQ and the religious
2:57:46
freedom are continually in conflict and
2:57:49
nine times out of ten if not nineteen
2:57:51
times out of 20 the court's ruling on
2:57:54
the LGBTQ side even though they continue
2:57:57
to insist oh there's no hierarchy of
2:57:59
rights there's no hierarchy of rights
2:58:01
well the court rulings themselves proved
2:58:03
otherwise there is a hierarchy of rights
2:58:06
and then the last one is just what is
2:58:09
these things gonna happen and this is a
2:58:11
very short clip these cases receive a
2:58:14
lot of publicity whether the Justice
2:58:17
Center is involved or not our arguments
2:58:20
in the Yaniv case is that the Canadian
2:58:23
Charter of Rights and Freedoms which is
2:58:24
the supreme law of the land which is
2:58:26
superior supreme over any law passed by
2:58:29
any province or by the national
2:58:31
parliament Canadian Charter of Rights
2:58:33
and Freedoms guarantees a right to
2:58:36
Liberty and a right to security of the
2:58:38
person and one of our arguments is that
2:58:40
a woman as part of her security of the
2:58:44
person should not be compelled by law to
2:58:47
wax male genitalia yeah and you know
2:58:51
hopefully the and the tribunal is
2:58:52
required to at least consider that
2:58:55
argument I won't predict whether they
2:58:57
will accept it or reject it wow this is
2:59:01
what you get when you have a weak
2:59:02
governmental system I guess well if this
2:59:06
is what you get when you listen to
2:59:08
maniacs these the social justice warrior
2:59:12
types are these these Democrats or the
2:59:14
Democrats socialist or any of these
2:59:16
people that have gone out of their way
2:59:18
to corrupt a system in such a way that
2:59:21
common sense doesn't even come into play
2:59:23
they swimming in Canada these these wax
2:59:27
ologists some of them are called
2:59:29
they may be required to grab this guy's
2:59:32
balls and then to fondle them and pull
2:59:34
off you know put some some stuff on
2:59:36
there and then wax the guy by law they
2:59:40
were required to do this this is like
2:59:42
this is a perversion and and the
2:59:45
Canadian law is actually encouraging it
2:59:48
is a perverted country you can donate at
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Dvorak org /na or you can the Navy it's
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alright to lighten the mood I would
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leave us with a joke from a podcast it's
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only one minute but I thought it was a
3:00:05
pretty funny joke and it's about Los
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Angeles in San Francisco this is from
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the Bill burr podcast he does a podcast
3:00:12
on Mondays
3:00:14
he's usually too depressing for me to
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listen to but I
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I appreciate that he's doing it and he
3:00:21
has guests on and this is a comedian
3:00:23
Steve Sweeney let me tell you something
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you want to look at a portrait of life
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right uh-huh
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okay so right now here's my take on Los
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Angeles cuz I've been here a few times
3:00:34
now this year with this movie but I
3:00:36
lived by the way it's called Sweeney
3:00:38
killing Sweeney it's on iTunes and it's
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on Amazon okay
3:00:42
so right now here's my take on Los
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Angeles the camping it's amazing this is
3:00:48
the greatest place to camp out in the
3:00:50
world because I see everybody's camping
3:00:52
out wherever you go every sidewalk
3:00:54
there's somebody's sleeping right right
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you know what I'm saying it's a great
3:00:57
city to be homeless as far as like the
3:00:59
wallet everybody's camping out it's nice
3:01:01
they like the outdoors but and then in
3:01:05
San Francisco I'm at The Improv tonight
3:01:09
so I'm trying out some little material
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on you San Francisco I went there and
3:01:14
you know I went to see all the Golden
3:01:17
Gate Bridge and all the sights Telegraph
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Avenue but then I said let me When in
3:01:24
Rome right not to as the you know people
3:01:27
that live there didn't do so I took a
3:01:29
shit on the sidewalk and I gotta tell
3:01:31
you it's very liberating I thought there
3:01:35
was a good joke was a great buildup yeah
3:01:40
it's cute
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yeah all right everybody whoa the
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affiliates should we'll be surprised we
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are now went way over we did go way over
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well you got your money's worth today
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do they call people douchebag it's for
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you a douchebag my name is Felix Wilson
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and my daddy is a douchebag but he
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wasn't always a douchebag life just got
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