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1095: Yeah No

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 56m
December 16th, 2018
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Executive Producers: Sir Josef, Viscount of all So Cal, Chris Grill, Matthew Hertert, Sir Jonathan of the Double-Bladed Paddle, Sir Chris Wilson, Andy Cantrell the old school lefty of Terrigal Beach

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Brian Baronet of Northern Connecticut, Jennifer Tegnerud

Cover Art by Dame IllumiNadia

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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1:16
First Transgender Contestant Competes in Miss Universe
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4:57
Tony Blair Predicts Second Brexit Referendum
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8:00
European Travel Information and Authorisation System
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10:03
Leave Means Leave Rally
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14:57
Airlines Experiment with Biometric Scanning to Speed up Airport Lines
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21:38
More People Caught With Guns in Their Carry-On Luggage
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24:28
California Mall Employs Security Robot
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28:13
California Wants to Tax Text Messages
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31:45
Vocal Fry
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37:15
Carbon Credits
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38:24
Producer Note: Climate Change is a Hoax
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39:51
Global Warming Memes
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43:41
Activist Urges WWII-Level Global Effort to Fight Climate Change
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52:57
Children's Opinions on Climate Change
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56:33
COP24 Climate Change Deal
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1:07:37
Extinction Rebellion
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1:16:01
Credits
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1:38:36
More Harassment Allegations Emerge at CBS
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1:42:37
Suspected Food Poisoning at Indian Temple Ceremony
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1:43:18
Federal Judge in Texas Strikes Down Obamacare
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1:50:09
US Spent $5.9 Trillion on the War on Terror Since 2001
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1:53:36
No Agenda Word Cloud
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1:57:40
Secret Hitler Board Game on NPR
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2:00:16
Virgin Galactic Reaches Edge of Space
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2:03:59
Donations
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2:16:43
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:19:14
JCD Discussed on No Such Thing As A Fish Podcast
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2:25:53
Cellphone Addiction
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2:26:57
Michael Cohen
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2:34:05
Maxine Waters Still on Impeachment
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2:36:26
WaPo Predicts Trump Pardon
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2:37:50
Trump Allegedly Crushes and Snorts Adderall
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2:40:16
US Baby Name Trends
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2:45:10
Yellow Vests Protests
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2:49:43
End of Show
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    now I love tulle who doesn't adam curry
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    Jhansi Devorah nation media
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    assassination episode 1095 this is no
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    agenda Silicon Valley where we're
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    expecting another supper Peter and I'm
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    predicting a nine car train I'm Jessie
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    [Music]
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    no you can really tell you got to get
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    out early today just toss it toss just
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    tossing away lines they're not even
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    trying man nine nine cars Zephyr beater
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    please yeah the number of cars has been
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    varying during the Christmas season firm
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    Thanksgiving on there was a ten car
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    trains mostly generally it's an eight
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    car train huh but I'm noticing a few
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    nine car trains coming by
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    alright and do these include the
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    passengers or is it all passengers or
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    it's all passengers except for that yo
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    there's one car that appears to be a
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    baggage car Oh fabulous well I I'm not
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    quite sure what is going on but I do
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    know that you need to get out on time
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    today and I'm thinking I'm thinking
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    that's because you know you obviously
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    have some work to do tonight
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    and and that might be what well even
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    though you said you gave up the beat I
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    think you got to go back on it the first
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    time ever a transgender woman will
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    compete for the title of Miss Universe
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    takes place this weekend in Bangkok and
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    he'll Aponte miss Payne says she's proud
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    of her role as pioneer I think mindsets
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    are changing today the references people
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    speak about the LGBTQ community and the
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    transgender community before it was
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    always underground and never spoken
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    about it
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    I think that people are more and more
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    informed all these prejudices come from
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    disinformation ponse says she ended the
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    fashion world a decade ago and she's
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    been in beauty contests for the last
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    three years there you go the first
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    transgendered participant in the in the
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    Miss Universe contest we've been
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    predicting this for years the question
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    is will she win no I for one thing
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    there's a couple of things I'll just
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    give my predictions I may or may not
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    cover this I doubt it um but cuz I
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    already said we're gonna stop doing this
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    but here's what's gonna happen I've seen
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    enough of these she's maybe going to get
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    to the top five so they can ask her a
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    question so we can hear her voice the
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    opening voice yeah but we want to see
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    what kind of a would kind of a brain she
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    has so they'll ask or something
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    it'll be lame and then she'll end up I
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    don't think should be first runner-up
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    but should come in third or fourth or
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    something she may get miss you may be
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    just knocked out she doesn't have a very
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    I don't think and I I'm not even gonna
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    get into it in any details but I think
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    she needs us be nice if she had a little
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    smaller waist a little chunky oh you
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    actually done your diligence you can't
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    say chunky you should know better than
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    this well it's not chunky in the sense
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    that what we think of as chunky okay but
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    by the beauty pageant standard
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    I'd say yes no Jimmy real chunky is more
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    it has an American style to it don't see
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    it's not that being that interesting
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    oh sure get as far as she guessed which
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    would probably be you know maybe in the
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    top five she may be bumped it you know
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    after in the top ten getting bump um
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    they you know Scott nothing that special
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    going on she has does have the advantage
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    of not having to do a like in the
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    certain competitions where you have to
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    have a skill um god she doesn't have a
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    skill she doesn't have no she has to
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    skilling up but she doesn't have you
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    don't need to do skills in his
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    conversation or uh okay so I'll Ennis I
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    got you time that Dad jacked up about
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    this uh you know I'm still interested I
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    didn't say I was jacked up about it but
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    you know the the bookies the oddsmakers
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    are saying she's got a good shot to win
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    at least the ones in the UK but yeah
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    they like to hype every head there's no
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    chance in hell she's gonna win okay well
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    you're the official office aficionado
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    and making bets on this I'd bet against
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    it alright good
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    we got it other things going I watch it
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    was watching to leave it means leave it
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    convention or volleys not to get some
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    credits because for the next show wrecks
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    it it's fascinating to listen to these
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    EU brexit ears give their little
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    speeches in this bits it's interesting
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    they have stuff in them that this 500
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    page tome that Teresa may wants to use
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    I'm a in agree with a lot of these to
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    say what's the point of any of this why
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    should we be giving 39 billion to the EU
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    let's just walk yeah let's walk from the
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    deal
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    everyone's talking on no brakes yeah the
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    people have everyone I talked to was
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    saying it looks like it's gonna be a no
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    deal brexit that would be the way to go
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    here's you want to hear Tony Blair real
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    quick he waited he's not helpful to her
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    Teresa Mays plight that's for sure I
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    think now people are saying what could
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    it really happen I need to get the
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    European leaders to the next stage which
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    is to realize the probability is it's
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    going to happen and they've got to
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    prepare for it because one important
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    component in any such rethought
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    referendum will be whether Europe is
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    prepared to meet what are not just
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    British concerns around the issues to do
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    with immigration but a european-wide
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    concerns and I think you could put
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    together the right type of deal if you
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    like for which wouldn't just be about
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    Britain it would be about Europe and
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    accepting the for example freedom the
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    movement of people in Europe it's got to
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    operate in a way that's fair and justice
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    undercut wages there's not going to be
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    no deal unless the combination of
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    accidents in government and in
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    Parliament that I can't foresee it's
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    impossible but why would Parliament do
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    that there's a massive majority in
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    parliament against No Deal they're
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    definitely gonna prefer a referendum to
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    No Deal No Deal is not the worry the
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    worry is that we end up with a kind of
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    botched breaks it which is frankly this
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    deal on the table so he's still pushing
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    for a do-over yeah him a few other
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    losers globalists and we're done and the
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    EU could tell us what to do muscles will
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    make the rule he's not even that he's
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    back to the freedom of movement the
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    freedom of the only sticking point
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    didn't have this freedom of movement
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    it's because it requires of work visa
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    in in different countries like I had
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    died needed to work visa when I when I
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    lived in London I had to have a visa
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    this is very normal so yes of course I
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    got one well well it was a pain in the
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    ass I didn't feel free in my movement
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    well because I had to fill out a form
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    you had to fill out a whole form and
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    you'll have to never take hours and days
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    yes and everyone's going now everyone's
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    going to have to fill out forms off this
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    is what it's going to be like for
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    travelling the EU has confirmed the
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    introduction of the ETS which will
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    become operational in early 2020
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    Eddie S stands for EU travel information
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    and authorization system all eligible
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    travelers regardless of a authorized
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    Europe from 2020 onwards require online
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    prior to their departure the new
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    requirement for European electronic
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    travel authorization such as the Etios
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    is to strengthen EU border controls
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    travelers will be required to complete
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    an online application form that covers a
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    range of biometric travel and security
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    related questions the adea's application
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    will then be electronically processed
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    within 96 hours and the authorization
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    will be delivered by email travellers
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    data will be checked against European
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    and international databases including
  • 8:59
    no-fly lists to identify potential
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    terrorists and criminal threads will
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    then be refused entry via the Etios
  • 9:06
    sounds like the same process for coming
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    to America to me travellers that failed
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    to obtain and Eddie US will not be
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    permitted to board a plane or cruise
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    ship to an ED EOS member country
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    visitors with a valid EDIUS will be
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    available to travel to the US member
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    country this guy wraps it up in a great
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    ways which include popular European
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    destinations such as France Germany
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    Spain Italy and
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    tene other countries for Eddie Yost news
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    launch updates and travel alerts visit
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    Eddie Yost calm calm
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    it's riveting stuff EDIUS dot-com yeah
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    so it's like same thing we have yeah
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    fill out a form about it be yeah all
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    right so you you had a clip something
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    else oh you had nothing oh okay
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    discussion ah
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    I brought my I brought my discussion
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    with me okay I do know that this
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    situation is getting dire and it's not
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    being helped by anybody and I think they
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    should just go to you know uh No Deal
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    Brixton just get out the longer this
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    drags on the worse it's gonna be
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    yeah there's all kinds of issues with
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    the No Deal brexit though and even
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    though I like problems it's makin of the
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    time armed by the way I'm armed with
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    this information from the leave or not
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    leave conference so tell me what is the
  • 10:41
    what are the consequences of a No Deal
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    brexit nothing ok then how do we do
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    trade with the EU I'll just be the same
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    way Norway does or the same way
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    Switzerland alright but we don't have a
  • 10:56
    deal in place yet sorry we don't have a
  • 10:59
    deal in place we don't have any trade
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    agreement
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    huh what do you need a deal for
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    you need a trade agreement don't you
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    don't you need a basic trade agreement
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    or not I buy stuff from Europe and I use
  • 11:14
    other systems and this stuff comes over
  • 11:16
    I don't have a trade agreement with the
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    EU and I buy my feeds tips no come on
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    you know don't be an idiot
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    you know there's customs there's all
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    kinds of stuff that goes on behind the
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    scenes even when you order something
  • 11:27
    through Amazon from the UK yeah I don't
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    know what conference you watch but it
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    was lame
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    no it wasn't you got no answers I'm
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    asking you a serious question and the
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    answers that is the answer this don't
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    the consequences are minimal said the
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    man who lives not their beefed-up on the
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    info based on the leave it or not leave
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    it or believe it means leave it
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    conference all right so what was your
  • 11:55
    takeaway from the conference that this
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    is a lot of nonsense we just got it we
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    what am I saying we I get nothing
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    I don't know you're getting pretty tight
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    with those levers all jacked up by it
  • 12:06
    the it's just get out get out while you
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    can
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    well they've certainly seemed to scare
  • 12:13
    the British public into thinking that is
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    the worst possible option as Tony Blair
  • 12:18
    just told us so so well that's exactly
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    one of the things that this conference
  • 12:22
    dealt with is that fear mongering
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    right and that one guy this guy was like
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    this there's one pub the pub king of
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    being live it was like a thousand pubs
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    this famous character Tim something he
  • 12:35
    get some clothes for the next show no no
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    he was a big supporter of bricks at
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    early on we would think we have a clip
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    of him somewhere years ago he's he goes
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    on and on about how this is a bunch of
  • 12:47
    fear-mongering it's got nothing to do
  • 12:49
    with anything and it's it just scared
  • 12:51
    the public and they're trying to do it
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    redo because you can keep doing that
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    over and over and over again until
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    somebody doesn't show up and they win
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    it's I'm not
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    I think the whole thing is if I have to
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    listen to these characters mm-hmm all of
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    major both sides of the aisle I mean
  • 13:09
    labor and Tori folk Irish and non Irish
  • 13:13
    and Scots and everybody else in between
  • 13:15
    they think the whole thing is a scam
  • 13:18
    there's this fear mongering and the pub
  • 13:22
    guy goes on about it you know the how
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    the the euro zone was created and all
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    the nonsense that went on with that and
  • 13:28
    all the fear mongering and the fear
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    monger the brexit vote itself the stock
  • 13:31
    market was gonna collapse in the economy
  • 13:33
    he's gonna go into a tailspin if you
  • 13:35
    voted yes nothing happened the pound
  • 13:38
    lost some value yeah all the British
  • 13:41
    bankers are gonna leave nobody left the
  • 13:43
    fact is they got more people working in
  • 13:45
    London now than before it's just one
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    thing after another this is a what is
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    something of a fraud hmm well then the
  • 13:52
    fraud is the thirty nine billion euros
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    that's the real fraud they really Oliver
  • 13:56
    got into it what is the point of giving
  • 13:58
    them thirty nine billion when the what
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    it's doing is saying the No Deal
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    breakfast means we've got thirty nine
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    billion dollars in our pockets right
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    boy wait a minute that's even if you
  • 14:11
    have a No Deal brexit whoo-hoo they
  • 14:13
    still pay the 39 billion euros in the UK
  • 14:17
    pockets that you don't to pay the 39 I'm
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    out
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    Wow well we've certainly been been led
  • 14:21
    to believe that this is not just not
  • 14:23
    possible light just doesn't sound that
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    way to me listen to these guys well
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    you're the only one I wish I'd bought it
  • 14:30
    brought a clip well I'm sorry
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    listening to it this morning because
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    it's already okay so this is going on as
  • 14:39
    you speak these guys there it is four
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    five six seven eight nine cars Zephyr
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    just to show you I'm so happy well since
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    we're talking about getting in and out
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    of countries and the paperwork you might
  • 15:04
    need for that things are changing
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    rapidly in Gitmo nation proper here in
  • 15:08
    the United States as something that I
  • 15:11
    already identified over in Europe on my
  • 15:13
    last trip and it seems that the airlines
  • 15:16
    are all on board and starting to crank
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    it up here smile your face is now your
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    ticket on some of Delta's international
  • 15:23
    flights out of Atlanta
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    that means from baggage check-in through
  • 15:27
    security and onto a Delta flight many
  • 15:30
    passengers will never take out an ID or
  • 15:32
    look for a boarding pass this is gonna
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    be an entirely biometric concourse where
  • 15:39
    customers through facial recognition
  • 15:40
    will not need paper anymore how does it
  • 15:43
    work if you're flying internationally
  • 15:44
    you need a passport which means your
  • 15:47
    photo is in the US Customs database but
  • 15:50
    instead of showing your passport when
  • 15:51
    you check bags or go through security as
  • 15:54
    fliers have done for years
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    Delta's biometric system will already
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    know you're scheduled for a specific
  • 16:00
    flight so when you stand in front of the
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    camera facial recognition software will
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    quickly verify your identity which means
  • 16:08
    going through an airport should be
  • 16:09
    easier and faster for travelers who will
  • 16:12
    no longer have to spend time looking for
  • 16:15
    and showing their paperwork to ticket
  • 16:17
    and security agents remember this is for
  • 16:20
    your convenience and we have men and men
  • 16:23
    women women on the street to ask who
  • 16:25
    will confirm this if you can save a
  • 16:28
    little bit of time up front and get
  • 16:30
    people into that queue faster then
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    hopefully this is making the airport
  • 16:36
    screening process that much more
  • 16:38
    efficient people spend a little bit less
  • 16:40
    time waiting it's a little bit less
  • 16:42
    stressful other airlines are also
  • 16:44
    testing facial recognition systems
  • 16:46
    facility stressful it's much less
  • 16:49
    stressful because you don't have to
  • 16:50
    think about all your paperwork and
  • 16:52
    having your ID in one hand and take it
  • 16:55
    in the other it's for you don't you
  • 16:57
    understand we're making your life easier
  • 16:59
    Sanders and the private firm clear uses
  • 17:03
    biometrics to identify travelers at many
  • 17:05
    airports so it may not be long before
  • 17:07
    showing your ID and boarding pass will
  • 17:11
    be a thing of the past
  • 17:12
    I like being quicker there's always the
  • 17:16
    invasion of privacy sort of things
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    [Music]
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    showing your ID an invasion of privacy
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    no he's talking those to your face
  • 17:32
    that's what he's saying he's saying that
  • 17:34
    he finds this to be kind of nothing oh
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    yeah no you misunderstood the thing of
  • 17:39
    the past
  • 17:40
    I like being quicker there's always the
  • 17:44
    invasion of privacy sort of thing that
  • 17:46
    you think about but safe and quick we
  • 17:50
    love it sign us up screening for its
  • 17:54
    domestic flights may take a little bit
  • 17:56
    longer since travelers are not required
  • 17:58
    to show a passport in order to buy a
  • 18:00
    domestic ticket actually you're not
  • 18:02
    required to even show identification by
  • 18:05
    law you have actual freedom of movement
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    in the United States but we're just
  • 18:09
    gonna make it sound easier for you so
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    you just use your face no documentation
  • 18:14
    needed so there's no immediate database
  • 18:16
    but make no mistake they will get to
  • 18:17
    work on that on a metric screening Becky
  • 18:20
    it is rapidly coming in to how we will
  • 18:22
    be boarding flights in the future oh
  • 18:24
    it's great it's just great you made a
  • 18:27
    point that needs to be reinforced
  • 18:29
    we do have freedom of movement in the
  • 18:31
    United States there's only one or two
  • 18:33
    people that push the envelope on this
  • 18:34
    you do not need any ID to get on an
  • 18:36
    airplane no you don't you you probably
  • 18:39
    miss your flight because they'll hassle
  • 18:41
    you but you don't need it legally that
  • 18:46
    we've been scammed the same thing going
  • 18:48
    on in the EU they're scamming the public
  • 18:50
    but you know what's happening is that
  • 18:52
    almost overnight is happening so quickly
  • 18:56
    face recognition is being introduced
  • 18:58
    everywhere hurts now does it at for your
  • 19:02
    for renting a car she's gonna be
  • 19:05
    everywhere it's gonna be our lives will
  • 19:06
    be filled with faithful riffing your
  • 19:08
    friend
  • 19:09
    it's worse than a fingerprint because
  • 19:11
    it's worse than a fingerprint but it's
  • 19:12
    like our fingerprint and so far as and
  • 19:14
    people resisted the fingerprint thing it
  • 19:16
    yeah well this is because we're all used
  • 19:19
    to cameras and we're finally we're
  • 19:20
    docile now you know it's like Facebook
  • 19:24
    has all my information they've got my
  • 19:26
    pictures anyway but yeah this is yeah
  • 19:30
    this is a very like if your fingerprint
  • 19:33
    yeah you can't see a guy's fingerprint
  • 19:35
    is he walking down the street or he's in
  • 19:37
    the mall or anyplace and you know that
  • 19:39
    this is now taking place well the other
  • 19:41
    thing that I believe is going on with
  • 19:43
    this sort of thing is fine-tuning the
  • 19:45
    systems
  • 19:47
    so it's so you're sure the accuracy just
  • 19:50
    increases because you did the sample
  • 19:52
    size gets bigger and bigger and bigger
  • 19:54
    and oh yeah because they keep using it
  • 19:55
    already I'm very impressed by facial
  • 19:57
    recognition it really is I mean that
  • 19:59
    especially if you have the right camera
  • 20:00
    for it the technologies is actually
  • 20:03
    pretty good pretty things you can try
  • 20:05
    mm-hmm Pat apparently you can take a
  • 20:10
    picture of an eyeball and you put it
  • 20:13
    between the two eyeballs so you can put
  • 20:14
    trained eye balls your third eye ball is
  • 20:16
    that what 2/3 eyeball work but you you
  • 20:21
    can put stop just stop this is the
  • 20:27
    official No Agenda TSA evasion kit and
  • 20:33
    it consists of a third eyeball sticker
  • 20:37
    that you see this ball right on your
  • 20:39
    head this is another yet another exit
  • 20:42
    strategy
  • 20:44
    I believe there's also some some uses of
  • 20:48
    glassware that would work mm-hmm and
  • 20:51
    makeup my glasses don't want those
  • 20:56
    glasses with the googly eyes that would
  • 21:02
    be funny but I think the real killer
  • 21:04
    here because they do it's it's done
  • 21:07
    through you know points they have to
  • 21:09
    identify is the big Catala band beard
  • 21:13
    I don't think that makes a difference I
  • 21:15
    think it sees right I don't think the
  • 21:16
    beard does anything for facial I believe
  • 21:19
    a Taliban beard so the kit includes a
  • 21:22
    sticker a third R sticker a Taliban
  • 21:26
    beard and and the googly eye glasses
  • 21:28
    yeah we can get this made of China free
  • 21:31
    art for 20 cents and sell it for 20
  • 21:33
    bucks rich gonna be so rich finding too
  • 21:41
    many guns and luggage they didn't
  • 21:43
    mention is something like like a couple
  • 21:47
    hundred percent the amount of guns that
  • 21:48
    people are trying to travel with let's
  • 21:50
    play this clip new today TSA screeners
  • 21:52
    have spotted a record number of guns at
  • 21:55
    airport checkpoints this year remember
  • 21:58
    VanCleave has the resistance
  • 22:00
    investigation a loaded gun inside a
  • 22:03
    carry-on at dallas-fort Worth Airport
  • 22:05
    it's a scene playing out nearly 12 on a
  • 22:08
    second did I just hear someone rack that
  • 22:09
    gun four times or even maybe pulled the
  • 22:12
    trigger dry because while the voiceover
  • 22:18
    says a loaded gun I wish I had seen the
  • 22:21
    video for this carry on at dallas-fort
  • 22:24
    Worth Airport playing out I just got to
  • 22:27
    start that over I want to hear that
  • 22:28
    again racking the gun loaded gun ladies
  • 22:30
    and gentlemen new today TSA screeners
  • 22:32
    have spotted a record number of guns at
  • 22:35
    airport checkpoints this year Kris Van
  • 22:38
    Cleave has the results of an 8 month
  • 22:40
    investigation a loaded gun inside a
  • 22:43
    carry-on at dallas-fort Worth Airport
  • 22:45
    it's a scene playing out nearly 12 times
  • 22:47
    a day at TSA checkpoints this year more
  • 22:50
    than four thousand times so far almost
  • 22:52
    always the flyer says it was a mistake
  • 22:58
    video from security cameras and police
  • 23:01
    body cams at DFW Airport shows some of
  • 23:03
    the 211 incidents where a gun was found
  • 23:05
    in a bag at a TSA checkpoint in 2017
  • 23:13
    just 10 airports accounted for nearly a
  • 23:17
    third of all incidents last year police
  • 23:19
    records from seven of them revealed at
  • 23:21
    least three cases where it appears the
  • 23:23
    gun was missed by TSA screeners at one
  • 23:25
    Airport and only discovered on the
  • 23:27
    person's trip home TSA had no trouble
  • 23:30
    spotting what was in this fifty nine
  • 23:32
    year olds backpack a loaded pistol and
  • 23:35
    several additional magazines of
  • 23:37
    ammunition in the vast majority of cases
  • 23:39
    it's men sixty-three percent were white
  • 23:41
    close ranged in age from their 30s to
  • 23:44
    their 50s but guns were found in the
  • 23:46
    carry ons of an 84 year old woman a ten
  • 23:49
    year old boy an airport worker and a
  • 23:51
    pastor from Texas who told police he
  • 23:53
    forgot the gun was in his backpack in
  • 23:56
    addition to potential criminal penalties
  • 23:57
    the TSA will seek a fine up to thirteen
  • 24:00
    thousand dollars in practice that we
  • 24:02
    found on average that fines around
  • 24:03
    eleven hundred dollars all of the people
  • 24:06
    you saw in our story told police they
  • 24:08
    didn't realize the gun was in that bag
  • 24:10
    yeah and I think that's very plausible
  • 24:14
    yeah certainly if you're traveling from
  • 24:16
    like Texas well most of the airports
  • 24:18
    were in Texas that look like well of
  • 24:20
    course where were the a-holes here Oh a
  • 24:22
    whole men with loaded rails Y loaded
  • 24:25
    weapons with weapons well everything is
  • 24:29
    weaponized I'll just take it back to
  • 24:31
    technology for one quickie clip this one
  • 24:33
    blew me away that this is happening in
  • 24:35
    in the malls in California I don't I
  • 24:38
    don't know which mall what's K Cal is
  • 24:40
    that up you're near you kcal9 I never
  • 24:42
    heard of it the kcal is the TV station I
  • 24:45
    mean no kcal I never heard of cake I bet
  • 24:49
    it must be Los Angeles you guys probably
  • 24:51
    so they have these you've seen the
  • 24:53
    stupid a small robots that there's been
  • 24:56
    a couple stories you know it's a typical
  • 24:58
    wired story or you know then maybe
  • 25:00
    Bloomberg shipping I saw a robot
  • 25:04
    delivery robot in Berkeley roaming
  • 25:07
    around on the
  • 25:08
    Street yes no yeah I'm driving back with
  • 25:12
    Jays win a spot I'm driving back and
  • 25:13
    dropping her off or something yeah her
  • 25:15
    up and you should look there's a
  • 25:17
    delivery robot and there's right on
  • 25:19
    College Avenue Sting's bouncing around
  • 25:23
    it looked like did it looked like lost
  • 25:25
    in space robot or looks a little like a
  • 25:28
    lost in space thing it's very it's a
  • 25:29
    small bus I got large like a large box
  • 25:33
    with four wheels on it and a bunch of
  • 25:35
    antennas and a light blinking light and
  • 25:38
    it's just broke rolls so the wheels are
  • 25:41
    probably about I don't know four inches
  • 25:42
    in circumference or or four inches in
  • 25:46
    diameter well so this is also large dog
  • 25:55
    I need to know more about the delivery
  • 25:58
    robot the robot in the mall looks a bit
  • 26:00
    like what is the thing from Doctor Who
  • 26:02
    I don't watch dog now I don't either but
  • 26:05
    I know the robot saying italic something
  • 26:08
    yeah yeah well that shows you how we're
  • 26:11
    out of touch we are with Doctor Who
  • 26:15
    darlings it's doctor who was a woman now
  • 26:18
    this thing has never stopped and she'll
  • 26:22
    probably win the Miss Universe all right
  • 26:25
    so on so the so that it looks like a
  • 26:26
    Dalek and it runs around the mall and it
  • 26:30
    looks completely you know just like it
  • 26:32
    couldn't harm you at all it's spinning
  • 26:34
    it's got lights it's a dough it's the
  • 26:36
    whole thing is a joke but it's not this
  • 26:40
    is what it's doing in fact as far as
  • 26:42
    robots go this one is state-of-the-art
  • 26:44
    equipped with very high-tech cameras
  • 26:47
    that are designed to pick up almost
  • 26:49
    anything and everything as it roams the
  • 26:51
    mall it's picking up video footage it's
  • 26:54
    picking up MAC addresses so it's able to
  • 26:57
    pick up a lot of information that humans
  • 26:59
    just aren't capable of MAC addresses
  • 27:01
    this is what Google got excoriated for
  • 27:05
    doing so it's it's it's snooping on you
  • 27:09
    it's picking up your MAC addresses at
  • 27:11
    the front that's that's the unique
  • 27:14
    network network adapter in your phone
  • 27:17
    each one has a unique
  • 27:18
    AMAC MAC address you can spoof it it's
  • 27:21
    like it's like a
  • 27:22
    P address but it's it's a much longer
  • 27:24
    numbers you need your device well sure
  • 27:27
    it's spoof above but that's not the
  • 27:28
    point everyone's being spied on yeah no
  • 27:31
    its disgusting and KCAL isn't even Los
  • 27:34
    Angeles how they deserve it San jealous
  • 27:37
    I just
  • 27:40
    since when is this just brought as oh
  • 27:42
    that's fine that's okay
  • 27:44
    because this is a cute little robot
  • 27:46
    roaming around bouncing around she knows
  • 27:49
    about these robots I guess she's seen a
  • 27:51
    few of them in Berkeley I said where
  • 27:53
    somebody's going kick the thing it cuz
  • 27:55
    it fall right over right that's what you
  • 27:56
    think
  • 27:57
    it's just saw there's people look
  • 27:59
    watching these things and they go back
  • 28:00
    and they put them back upright again and
  • 28:02
    off they go so what good is a robot you
  • 28:05
    had to have a grow bot handler and
  • 28:08
    doesn't matter the fact that they're
  • 28:10
    doing this just says a lot
  • 28:13
    and by the way today is it today I think
  • 28:15
    it's right around this time maybe maybe
  • 28:18
    it was on Thursday was exactly one year
  • 28:23
    since the FCC voted out net neutrality
  • 28:29
    have we done is your Netflix Netflix
  • 28:35
    slow did you get a call now do you have
  • 28:40
    to call your your you're better than
  • 28:43
    ever to get a package deal so I can
  • 28:45
    actually listen to the No Agenda show is
  • 28:47
    that happened yet everybody has it
  • 28:49
    happen no no but it's going to oh hey
  • 28:53
    we'll in California you guys got net net
  • 28:55
    neutrality I can't wait to see how that
  • 28:56
    actually packs out or unpacks there's
  • 28:59
    all kinds of stuff in California yeah we
  • 29:02
    didn't get to talk about this on the
  • 29:03
    last show but I do want to get your
  • 29:06
    feedback from this proposal which sounds
  • 29:08
    like an onion story but just peeling
  • 29:11
    back the letter layers gets worse as you
  • 29:13
    learn more about it California Public
  • 29:15
    Utilities Commission is set to vote next
  • 29:16
    month on a proposal to tax your text
  • 29:19
    messages regulators say the money would
  • 29:21
    be used to support programs that provide
  • 29:23
    phone service to the poor it's unclear
  • 29:25
    how much though that you'd have to pay
  • 29:27
    per message the wireless industry and
  • 29:30
    business groups are fighting the plan
  • 29:31
    they say that it could cost phone users
  • 29:33
    an extra forty four million dollars a
  • 29:35
    year they also say the proposal is
  • 29:37
    unfair because services like Facebook's
  • 29:39
    messenger and Apple's iMessage wouldn't
  • 29:42
    be hit with this new fee that's where it
  • 29:51
    all started it's a crazy idea well it's
  • 29:55
    a flat fee and when they do it out the
  • 29:59
    man on the street I wish I had some of
  • 30:00
    these clips cuz I saw many of them it's
  • 30:03
    always dingbats oh you know if it helps
  • 30:05
    to poor people understand what are they
  • 30:10
    going to because if cell phone bill if
  • 30:12
    you look at it this pen listen the five
  • 30:17
    bucks on top of everything else a fee
  • 30:20
    that you see on your cell phone bill
  • 30:22
    yeah that is yet additional fee it'll be
  • 30:25
    called something you know to be blatant
  • 30:27
    to be something like four to Footy
  • 30:28
    dollars it's nobody up say jack about it
  • 30:31
    cuz they're used to paying hundreds of
  • 30:33
    dollars or the stupid phone every month
  • 30:35
    but is it based on your text message
  • 30:38
    usage or just a low K so that's are
  • 30:40
    there kind of there
  • 30:41
    and a little skewed then yes I heard
  • 30:44
    they're going to tax you retro actively
  • 30:46
    for all the text messages you sent and
  • 30:49
    things who I mean you and I are probably
  • 30:51
    the only people left in America using
  • 30:53
    SMS text messaging
  • 30:57
    do is that what we're using I don't even
  • 30:59
    know what it is when you yes when you
  • 31:03
    text me about the newsletter that's pure
  • 31:06
    SMS text messaging okay
  • 31:09
    and I and everyone else is using
  • 31:10
    iMessage you know and it is
  • 31:14
    circumventing the whole system locking
  • 31:15
    themselves in I might say man this
  • 31:18
    iMessage it's hard to get off of it once
  • 31:20
    once you got all your friends with
  • 31:22
    iMessage and you then you go away then
  • 31:25
    all of a sudden you get kicked out of
  • 31:27
    the group you can't do group messages
  • 31:30
    way to go of course it is open standards
  • 31:33
    open source but it's open I don't Fitz
  • 31:38
    open source it's just to stand up and
  • 31:41
    soared over sores okay all right so I
  • 31:46
    picked up a talking about the dingbats
  • 31:48
    out there which i think is kind of
  • 31:49
    somewhat thematic I picked up this a
  • 31:51
    show that I never heard of and then I
  • 31:54
    started watching it it's done by the for
  • 31:57
    the forelli brothers' or by these Peter
  • 31:59
    and which is a couple of movie guys who
  • 32:04
    get in the TV once they're also they
  • 32:06
    they just show specifically this is the
  • 32:09
    worst show in terms of distribution
  • 32:11
    you'll ever if you could even find a
  • 32:13
    copy you have the bootleg a copy it's on
  • 32:15
    only on AT&T u-verse and this is an AT&T
  • 32:20
    produced show for AT&T this sounds like
  • 32:24
    a winner
  • 32:25
    yeah well actually this shows quite
  • 32:27
    funny it's called Loudermilk
  • 32:29
    it's got none to a third season but I do
  • 32:34
    have a scene from it to show you what
  • 32:36
    kind of typical Farrelly Brothers kind
  • 32:39
    of gag there is this is loudermilk's
  • 32:42
    vocal fry' gag and you need to set this
  • 32:46
    up whatever what am I gonna see here
  • 32:47
    it's a guy yeah the guy the lead
  • 32:49
    character is waiting in line at a coffee
  • 32:51
    shop up and then he runs into some girl
  • 32:53
    with this vocal fry' thing and he just
  • 32:56
    goes off on her how can I get coffee
  • 33:02
    okay real quick
  • 33:04
    totally leave room for cream why are you
  • 33:06
    talking like that why are you talking
  • 33:08
    like that this is my voice this is my
  • 33:10
    blond yes no it's not I heard you
  • 33:12
    talking a minute ago I know you don't
  • 33:13
    talk like that
  • 33:14
    neither do you because nobody actually
  • 33:15
    talks like this you choose to talk like
  • 33:18
    that and today I chose to talk like this
  • 33:20
    pretty fucking annoying isn't that is
  • 33:22
    over it man just stop doing that can't
  • 33:25
    help us my voice no it's not
  • 33:28
    it's an affectation that annoying
  • 33:30
    teenagers and rich people used to sound
  • 33:32
    like they don't give a shit except your
  • 33:34
    work in a coffee shop so I know you're
  • 33:36
    not rich and you don't look like a
  • 33:38
    teenager unless you're a eunice Kennedy
  • 33:40
    Shriver just cuz I talk like this maybe
  • 33:44
    they don't give a shit and what exactly
  • 33:46
    am I supposed to not gonna shit about
  • 33:47
    that's an excellent question to ask
  • 33:50
    yourself in your actual voice excuse me
  • 33:53
    some of us would like to order your
  • 33:59
    total dick man there there you go good
  • 34:03
    you're talking
  • 34:06
    Wow oh go ha
  • 34:16
    Mazhar issues that need to be addressed
  • 34:19
    more and the we do need to remind
  • 34:21
    everyone the original vocal fry queen is
  • 34:24
    the Berkeley Hummer exactly exactly
  • 34:30
    exactly I'm gonna see if I must have a
  • 34:33
    clue here we go rich people don't give a
  • 34:39
    shit they don't give a shit is actually
  • 34:41
    I never thought about but that is Jill
  • 34:43
    Abramson's kind of attitude about stuff
  • 34:46
    here she is the original Berkeley Hummer
  • 34:49
    clip from years ago chief among many
  • 34:51
    other things she joined the times from
  • 34:54
    The Wall Street Journal and this clip is
  • 34:56
    from 2011 1997 Jill Abramson
  • 34:59
    congratulations on welcome thank you so
  • 35:03
    much Jim first just on on the personal
  • 35:07
    level what does it mean to you to become
  • 35:09
    the executive editor of the New York
  • 35:11
    Times it means the world to me I grew up
  • 35:17
    here in Manhattan and the New York Times
  • 35:22
    was worshipped in my family and what the
  • 35:26
    time said was true was the truth
  • 35:30
    you know she's got much worse than the
  • 35:31
    in recent years this is not even think
  • 35:33
    you're right I think she has gotten
  • 35:35
    worse I don't know I wonder if we have
  • 35:37
    Jill Abramson we must have a more recent
  • 35:41
    one
  • 35:42
    let me see Jill Abramson want clearance
  • 36:03
    yeah all I recall is we went through
  • 36:06
    this cycle and it is now seven eight
  • 36:08
    years ago and a certain point it was a
  • 36:11
    misogynist to even talk about it yeah
  • 36:15
    it's not it's not appropriate apparently
  • 36:17
    obviously i reaiiy read the New York
  • 36:19
    Times like all day long
  • 36:24
    that's the one hold on that that is the
  • 36:28
    money shot obviously i reaiiy read the
  • 36:31
    New York Times like all day long mainly
  • 36:35
    on my iPad oh and she got kicked out of
  • 36:44
    there she got kicked out of everywhere
  • 36:45
    where's she working now isn't she is she
  • 36:48
    working at the correspondent yet that's
  • 36:49
    where I expect her to show up next I
  • 36:51
    have no idea that fine Dutch experiment
  • 36:54
    yes Dutch thing yeah I like those guys I
  • 36:59
    supported the Dutch version years ago
  • 37:01
    when they first started and they did it
  • 37:03
    apparently they raised two and a half
  • 37:04
    million dollars for them yeah but the
  • 37:06
    thing is Jay Rosen that's your spokes
  • 37:08
    hole uh-huh yeah that's a Miss now
  • 37:11
    that's a big mistake sorry Jay but no
  • 37:13
    let's see I have a I do want to talk
  • 37:16
    about the green new deal as there was a
  • 37:18
    lot going on I see you have a clip but
  • 37:20
    um if you don't mind I'll just grab the
  • 37:22
    cop 24 clip meeting summary yeah but I
  • 37:27
    got I got some specific backgrounds I
  • 37:29
    have a presentation to make well let's
  • 37:31
    just do the climate summary then cuz
  • 37:32
    this is a different PBS is very short
  • 37:34
    it's only 28 wrap up the whole thing
  • 37:37
    okay as though it was like not a big
  • 37:39
    deal negotiators reached an agreement at
  • 37:40
    the United Nations climate talks in
  • 37:42
    Poland today after more than two weeks
  • 37:44
    of meetings the talks were scheduled to
  • 37:46
    end Friday one sticking point was the
  • 37:48
    rule for monitoring purchasing and
  • 37:50
    selling carbon credits to reduce carbon
  • 37:52
    emissions Brazil raised concerns of the
  • 37:55
    cost of buying permits from a central
  • 37:56
    registry and the process of selling
  • 37:58
    those permits a rulebook for the 200
  • 38:01
    nations in the Paris Accord was released
  • 38:03
    for approval and the countries will meet
  • 38:05
    again next fall in New York right so
  • 38:08
    this is yeah hey if carbons bad is bad
  • 38:10
    how could you sell credits to go back
  • 38:12
    and forth and burn it anyway release it
  • 38:15
    yeah okay I'm not gonna not gonna answer
  • 38:18
    questions I have no answers to but I can
  • 38:20
    only report on what's going on and I
  • 38:22
    realized I got it actually came from an
  • 38:25
    email from Cory millennial
  • 38:29
    says Adam John born in 1988 in Wisconsin
  • 38:33
    until listening to your show I knew I
  • 38:36
    knew global warming was a fact everyone
  • 38:40
    I talked with accepted his truth your
  • 38:43
    podcast was the only voice that even
  • 38:45
    brought it up as a question after doing
  • 38:47
    my own research I agree with your point
  • 38:49
    of view thank you from Cory PS no
  • 38:52
    adderall and I listen at 1.5 speed okay
  • 38:55
    yeah okay the kids like that here's what
  • 38:59
    I realized when when the official
  • 39:01
    Climategate started and my goodness we
  • 39:03
    have we have jingles going back that are
  • 39:05
    older than some of the people that
  • 39:07
    listen to this show here it is there was
  • 39:18
    all this fuzzy stuff the the people who
  • 39:21
    were in charge of the ipcc had deals on
  • 39:24
    the outside it was a complete mess and
  • 39:26
    we witnessed all of this most kids today
  • 39:29
    you know they were too young to to have
  • 39:32
    ever witnessed anything that's going on
  • 39:34
    but when you think about it we have been
  • 39:37
    through so you and I just because of age
  • 39:39
    have been through so many of these
  • 39:41
    horrible horrible things that are going
  • 39:44
    to happen to us and they've turned out
  • 39:47
    to be not so true yes and what a secret
  • 39:51
    agent Paul sent me an end of show clip
  • 39:54
    which is a song but I just wanted to
  • 39:56
    play it now it's not super long I want
  • 39:58
    to play now because he he kind of goes
  • 40:00
    through all of these things a number of
  • 40:02
    them and as I was listening to it I came
  • 40:04
    up with more that were hyped that was
  • 40:06
    supposed to be horrible we're all going
  • 40:07
    to die if we don't do something
  • 40:09
    immediately and then of course it didn't
  • 40:11
    happen
  • 40:13
    and he put this to a very traditional
  • 40:16
    track
  • 40:18
    can anyone he remember the hole in the
  • 40:24
    ozone land
  • 40:25
    can you tell me where it's gone I can't
  • 40:32
    become
  • 40:34
    but no we were all gonna die
  • 40:38
    we must have done something
  • 40:41
    [Music]
  • 40:44
    does anyone know
  • 40:47
    what happened to the gasoline shortage
  • 40:51
    when the pumps would all run dry the
  • 40:57
    last drop would be gone by 1991
  • 41:03
    [Music]
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    but now there's an ample supply
  • 41:08
    [Music]
  • 41:10
    tisn't along he
  • 41:14
    remember the y2k bug
  • 41:17
    [Music]
  • 41:19
    was gonna crash every screen would be
  • 41:25
    black but then
  • 41:28
    nothing happened but someone made a lot
  • 41:32
    of time
  • 41:34
    fuck yes
  • 41:36
    it was gonna be the next ice age but
  • 41:40
    somehow we turn that page we're all
  • 41:44
    gonna freeze
  • 41:45
    now it's up by 12 degrees
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    [Music]
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    there's just enough just a few examples
  • 41:56
    of these enormous ly dangerous things to
  • 42:00
    our society we're all going to die from
  • 42:02
    I just wanted to mention the y2k bug I
  • 42:04
    had cash in the freezer I had a bathtub
  • 42:07
    full of water
  • 42:10
    and we like cashed in on that one myself
  • 42:12
    because I had a special speech prepared
  • 42:15
    that was about what a phony baloney deal
  • 42:18
    it was cuz it never made any sense and
  • 42:20
    in the Senate I should probably revisit
  • 42:23
    a speech because it was funny it was
  • 42:25
    show that y2k is gonna cause tornado
  • 42:28
    oceans are gonna rise cuz of y2k
  • 42:31
    so it's important for the the younger
  • 42:33
    generation to understand that this is
  • 42:36
    not new except now your parents are all
  • 42:39
    in on it and they're stupid morons
  • 42:41
    they're not really thinking about how
  • 42:42
    they're traumatizing you how your
  • 42:45
    teachers your community everyone around
  • 42:47
    you is traumatizing you by saying we're
  • 42:50
    all gonna die from climate change and oh
  • 42:52
    yeah we can't really do anything about
  • 42:54
    it
  • 42:54
    or we're not or you should do something
  • 42:56
    quick and you know all the messaging
  • 42:58
    that these kids are receiving is making
  • 43:00
    them extremely ill I agree and and so
  • 43:05
    again our stance on this it's not just
  • 43:07
    we're not just like some assholes who
  • 43:09
    don't believe in science and grew up you
  • 43:11
    know like oh this is crap man no we've
  • 43:14
    been through it was global cooling we
  • 43:16
    were all going to die same people by the
  • 43:18
    way who now say global warming then we
  • 43:21
    had the Population Bomb the population
  • 43:24
    explosion when too many people were all
  • 43:26
    gonna die it was gonna be dead by the
  • 43:28
    year 2000 by the time you're as old as
  • 43:30
    we are and I hope you reach that fine
  • 43:32
    old age like a fine wine you will too
  • 43:35
    we'll go this is a lot of crap that we
  • 43:37
    that we got all worked up about and the
  • 43:41
    CBC the current as is the candidate VIN
  • 43:45
    Broadcasting Corporation today special
  • 43:48
    and on this special about climate change
  • 43:51
    they had a guest the guest is Margaret
  • 43:56
    Klein Solomon
  • 43:59
    and she of course is involved in climate
  • 44:01
    change but she's not a climatologist no
  • 44:04
    she's a clinical psychologist of the
  • 44:07
    climate mobilization organization so
  • 44:12
    they're now doing half hour specials
  • 44:14
    with psychologists about to forget about
  • 44:18
    anything that's true or not in science
  • 44:20
    how fast it's gonna happen just listen
  • 44:22
    to the set up and then we'll get into a
  • 44:24
    couple of Clips my name is Debra Hassad
  • 44:26
    I'm the executive director of the
  • 44:28
    adaptation to climate change team at
  • 44:30
    Simon Fraser University in Vancouver a
  • 44:33
    low-carbon resilient future is a
  • 44:36
    beautiful a lot less noisy polluting
  • 44:39
    cars filling up most of our urban
  • 44:43
    downtown areas more parks more areas for
  • 44:47
    kids to play more places for people to
  • 44:50
    grow food more shared spaces more places
  • 44:53
    where people can come together and and
  • 44:56
    enjoy their environment I heard a very
  • 44:59
    interesting presentation from a woman
  • 45:01
    who works with small children recently
  • 45:03
    and so she asks them to draw she says if
  • 45:07
    we carry on you know how we're living in
  • 45:10
    the world what do you think the future
  • 45:11
    looks like and she said that without
  • 45:14
    fail they draw a world
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    [Music]
  • 45:20
    in which everything's on fire and
  • 45:23
    everything is dead and everyone is sick
  • 45:27
    so she's already she's emotional just
  • 45:31
    from hearing the damage that it's
  • 45:32
    already done and I believe this to be
  • 45:34
    true the kids yes the children are think
  • 45:39
    that everything will be on fire and
  • 45:40
    everybody's dead now this is a great
  • 45:47
    piece one of our producers sent it to me
  • 45:49
    really highlight is that you will not
  • 45:50
    believe what's going on here and he's
  • 45:52
    right I chopped this up a couple more
  • 45:55
    and they're all about a minute each clip
  • 45:56
    just for more clips this is now we get
  • 45:59
    to Margaret crying Solomon Klein Solomon
  • 46:01
    and she has of course solutions it's all
  • 46:03
    not just dire as long as we do it within
  • 46:05
    the next 12 years otherwise mute the
  • 46:07
    kids will still be drawing those
  • 46:08
    pictures of fire and everyone will be
  • 46:10
    dead we are calling for a ten year crash
  • 46:15
    transition to zero emissions plus draw
  • 46:18
    down and attempt to achieve
  • 46:21
    full-spectrum sustainability across
  • 46:23
    across issues the remember she's a
  • 46:27
    psychologist okay she's not a
  • 46:28
    climatologist not a weather scientist
  • 46:32
    she's a psychologist but she knows what
  • 46:34
    the idea being this is not a problem we
  • 46:37
    are too late in the game for gradualism
  • 46:41
    right to infinitely reduce emissions or
  • 46:46
    for individualism right the idea that I
  • 46:49
    take care of my emissions you take care
  • 46:51
    of your emissions and so forth what we
  • 46:54
    envision is a rapid transition of our
  • 46:59
    entire economy and society with all
  • 47:01
    hands on deck as most recently happened
  • 47:03
    in our history during World War two so
  • 47:07
    for example some of the policies that
  • 47:09
    would come from a world war two scale
  • 47:11
    climate mobilization would be the
  • 47:13
    immediate ban of all new fossil fuel
  • 47:16
    infrastructure and a ten-year timeline
  • 47:19
    for retiring the fossil fuel
  • 47:20
    infrastructure that we do have coupled
  • 47:23
    because we want to keep the lights on
  • 47:24
    with a massive scale up of renewable
  • 47:28
    energy so large government invest
  • 47:30
    meant creating millions of jobs to both
  • 47:33
    reduce demands through things like
  • 47:35
    winterizing homes we're all going to
  • 47:40
    burn but the kids can winterize your
  • 47:42
    home no worries reduce demand through
  • 47:45
    things like winterizing homes and just
  • 47:49
    transform our energy system to renewable
  • 47:51
    we also and we also have policies and
  • 47:53
    agriculture transportation and industry
  • 47:57
    that we promote but that's the that's
  • 48:00
    the basic scope delusional how
  • 48:07
    subversive yes system is we are this the
  • 48:11
    entire system of Western civilization at
  • 48:14
    this moment is petroleum-based this is a
  • 48:17
    subversive movement to bring down to
  • 48:19
    Western cultures to replace it with this
  • 48:22
    is the same as the anti capitalist
  • 48:25
    people all capitalism is bad we're going
  • 48:28
    that we need to replace it with what
  • 48:29
    where are these jobs what job is a time
  • 48:31
    it's not that winterizing jobs nobody
  • 48:34
    needs people do that themselves they
  • 48:35
    want to they can put some gunite you
  • 48:37
    know in the house so transparently
  • 48:42
    subversive it's it's beyond my
  • 48:45
    comprehension is how it lives its allow
  • 48:47
    it to continue like this well it
  • 48:49
    continues for at least two more clips
  • 48:52
    free by the way yeah and I hope they're
  • 48:55
    Stoppers this so now she's comparing it
  • 48:59
    to World War two we needed and we needed
  • 49:01
    to crash transition which he means by
  • 49:03
    that and the whole piece is filled with
  • 49:05
    you know did your parents buy war bonds
  • 49:08
    yet you know because everyone was all
  • 49:10
    all in on you know we've got to support
  • 49:12
    the war everybody and she thinks that we
  • 49:14
    can do exactly the same well a great
  • 49:16
    example is the Victory Gardens
  • 49:18
    so during World War two forty percent of
  • 49:21
    American vegetables were grown at home
  • 49:23
    in the front and back yard by the people
  • 49:26
    that ate them do you can you recall this
  • 49:28
    I know about the Victory Gardens I don't
  • 49:31
    believe that statistic to be accurate
  • 49:34
    you can eat it for maybe a month but you
  • 49:36
    got to have a pretty big garden well you
  • 49:38
    have to a lot of canning canning was bad
  • 49:40
    yes it was very popular yes you do a lot
  • 49:42
    of canning yet but you know this
  • 49:44
    the farms out there in the middle of the
  • 49:46
    Midwest and elsewhere that normally grow
  • 49:49
    vegetables stop growing vegetables what
  • 49:52
    they want is they want us to eat that
  • 49:53
    that laboratory meat
  • 49:57
    and bugs right we can farm our lawns and
  • 50:03
    have community farms where you know
  • 50:09
    local food security and also you know
  • 50:13
    you don't have emissions from
  • 50:14
    transportation but more generally
  • 50:17
    programs like transitioning industry
  • 50:21
    right so the United States banned the
  • 50:25
    production of new consumer automobiles
  • 50:29
    they said we need all of that automobile
  • 50:33
    factory capacity to create our tanks and
  • 50:37
    planes and machine guns and so no more
  • 50:41
    no more consumer car production period
  • 50:43
    sorry it's a fundamentally different
  • 50:45
    mentality when you get into the mode of
  • 50:49
    we face an existential threat everything
  • 50:53
    is on the line and you know so the
  • 50:56
    government is gonna do everything that
  • 50:57
    it can the government should spend
  • 50:59
    without limit to save as much life as
  • 51:02
    possible again she's not an economist
  • 51:06
    she's not a science climatologist she's
  • 51:10
    a psychologist and I'm not so sure these
  • 51:13
    are great ideas that she has but it
  • 51:17
    turns out in the psychology field she
  • 51:19
    does have a little bit to say about this
  • 51:20
    idea of just in just just a crash
  • 51:24
    transition to immediately stopping using
  • 51:27
    fossil fuels stop driving everything
  • 51:29
    electric because back in the day in
  • 51:31
    World War two it actually people kind of
  • 51:34
    liked it the people who lived through
  • 51:35
    World War two on the homefront often
  • 51:39
    looked back at it as some of the best
  • 51:41
    years of their life because they felt
  • 51:45
    productively and meaningfully employed
  • 51:47
    in a cause that was greater than them
  • 51:49
    and they felt connected to their
  • 51:51
    neighbors and to their community into
  • 51:53
    their country and to their cause and the
  • 51:57
    the hopefulness the hopefulness yes we
  • 52:00
    need that but it but it has to be based
  • 52:02
    on reality and on telling the truth
  • 52:05
    and there is no hope for ace
  • 52:09
    smooth transition to zero emissions for
  • 52:14
    over over decades that kind of doesn't
  • 52:16
    bother anyone maybe we could have done
  • 52:18
    that if we had started it in the 70s but
  • 52:21
    we did and we we need a crash transition
  • 52:28
    to protect ourselves and even if we do
  • 52:31
    it even if we execute the most austere
  • 52:35
    and intense transition to zero emissions
  • 52:38
    we still might not win you don't know if
  • 52:41
    you're gonna win a war before you go
  • 52:42
    into it it's possible that the positive
  • 52:45
    feedback loops that we've already
  • 52:47
    triggered will overwhelm even our
  • 52:50
    absolute best efforts to get to zero
  • 52:54
    emissions but we're not even trying now
  • 52:56
    see this is the message that's being
  • 52:58
    sent to kids by psychologists who should
  • 53:00
    know better but doesn't matter because
  • 53:03
    the best thing you can do is record
  • 53:05
    those kids get their thoughts on climate
  • 53:07
    change get their thoughts on the
  • 53:09
    imminent death they face because their
  • 53:11
    parents and the adults and orange man
  • 53:14
    bad orange man bad won't do anything
  • 53:16
    about it in Washington DC
  • 53:17
    let's traumatize them a little more and
  • 53:19
    ask them how they feel with some cool
  • 53:22
    piano music just to accentuate the vibe
  • 53:25
    my name is Elizabeth Curran I'm 10 years
  • 53:28
    old and I live in Winnipeg being a young
  • 53:32
    person when I find most concerning about
  • 53:36
    climate change is that like animals can
  • 53:40
    lose their homes like polar bears if the
  • 53:43
    ice and nuts
  • 53:45
    my name is Arthur I am 8 year 9 years
  • 53:49
    old
  • 53:51
    [Music]
  • 53:54
    Halloween a bit scary because I live
  • 54:01
    near the ocean and if there's a glacier
  • 54:05
    that also will make the water go close
  • 54:08
    to my house my name is Benji Zion I am
  • 54:12
    15 and I live in Montreal Quebec I think
  • 54:16
    that it's time for the governments to do
  • 54:18
    big things but just because just because
  • 54:21
    the governments are doing big things it
  • 54:23
    doesn't mean that people should stop
  • 54:24
    doing small things that everyone should
  • 54:26
    just
  • 54:28
    you know without necessarily sacrificing
  • 54:31
    everything yet just do what they can to
  • 54:34
    reduce the footprint and help us not be
  • 54:38
    doomed
  • 54:38
    my name is Miata Stout I'm 12 years old
  • 54:42
    and I live in Winnipeg the thing that
  • 54:45
    scares me the most of a climate change
  • 54:46
    is literally everything it's terrifying
  • 54:50
    it's it's kind of pushed to the side and
  • 54:52
    it's just not knowing anything about it
  • 54:55
    is kind of what scares me about it and
  • 54:57
    just knowing that it's gonna kill us if
  • 55:01
    we don't do anything which we're not
  • 55:02
    doing anything that's the theory part to
  • 55:04
    me my name is Patrick I'm 10 years old
  • 55:08
    and I was born in China but now I love
  • 55:11
    them vancouver spawn young children will
  • 55:15
    experience far worse than the people
  • 55:20
    living right now also scares me too
  • 55:24
    floods hurricanes and other natural
  • 55:26
    disasters are way more likely than in
  • 55:31
    the past five years
  • 55:32
    I think grown-ups should think that we
  • 55:36
    actually should make an impact and not
  • 55:39
    just sit back and let it happen that's
  • 55:41
    right kids your parents aren't doing
  • 55:44
    anything because the orange man isn't
  • 55:46
    doing anything and you are all going to
  • 55:48
    job
  • 55:57
    you
  • 56:00
    embellishment child child abuse child
  • 56:06
    abuse and add to that yo your school can
  • 56:10
    be shot up at any minute throw in a
  • 56:12
    couple of antidepressants you got a
  • 56:13
    great party coming on it's gonna be
  • 56:16
    fantastic watch these kids do
  • 56:17
    fantastically well in society yeah well
  • 56:20
    this uh interesting little thing I was
  • 56:23
    noticing there was somebody discussing
  • 56:25
    the homelessness and oh yeah it's the
  • 56:27
    great works you know ray racism it all
  • 56:30
    stems from climate change you know this
  • 56:32
    don't you
  • 56:32
    anyway the cop twenty four they finally
  • 56:34
    came to an agreement there's the new
  • 56:36
    president of this thing by the way is
  • 56:38
    some douchebag
  • 56:39
    he's let me see what his name is
  • 56:41
    replaced the old douche but yeah yeah
  • 56:43
    he's a young douchebag my gosh courts
  • 56:46
    yeah he is the secretary of state
  • 56:49
    government plenipotentiary for cop
  • 56:52
    twenty four presidency a train whatever
  • 56:55
    that means
  • 56:56
    a train physicist engineer economist
  • 56:58
    specialist and international
  • 56:59
    negotiations expert in the field of
  • 57:01
    energy and the author of the government
  • 57:03
    program for the development of electro
  • 57:04
    mobility in Poland and he's it's almost
  • 57:09
    like he's one of these dot-com kind of
  • 57:10
    guys when they fuck cuz they had the big
  • 57:12
    dais and you know there's a thousand
  • 57:14
    people in the auditorium and and they
  • 57:16
    they went really late Saturday night and
  • 57:18
    and they got up early this morning and
  • 57:20
    they finally came to an agreement and he
  • 57:22
    jumps over the dais Dada
  • 57:25
    you've got to see this video like he's a
  • 57:27
    like he's spider-man yes we have a deal
  • 57:30
    kind of it is so decided the conference
  • 57:36
    president did his best to whip up
  • 57:38
    enthusiasm from delegates has been a
  • 57:44
    lukewarm reception from observers to the
  • 57:46
    cop twenty four climate change deal
  • 57:48
    agreed on Saturday by some 200 nations
  • 57:51
    in Katowice Poland gleeko katika
  • 57:54
    acknowledged more needs to be done this
  • 57:57
    deal Hanks in fragile balance
  • 58:02
    we will all have to give in order to
  • 58:06
    gain we will all have to be carriages to
  • 58:10
    look into the future and make yet
  • 58:12
    another step for the sake of humanity a
  • 58:15
    156 page rulebook flashes out details on
  • 58:19
    how to implement the 2015 Paris
  • 58:22
    agreement the whole world the target is
  • 58:43
    limit global warming well below two
  • 58:45
    degrees centigrade the rulebook covers
  • 58:47
    issues such as how countries should
  • 58:49
    establish and monitor emission reduction
  • 58:51
    plans but it's less clear on how a
  • 58:54
    pledge of 90 billion euros to poorer
  • 58:56
    countries will be financed
  • 59:01
    dammit Francois the crazy American man
  • 59:04
    orange men bed he pulled out of the
  • 59:07
    agreement where do we get a 90 billion
  • 59:08
    from now NPR did actually I have to say
  • 59:14
    did it very well
  • 59:15
    although that the millennia was
  • 59:17
    fantastic the minute it gets into
  • 59:19
    science she starts saying write a lot
  • 59:21
    but she did explain the issues and it's
  • 59:23
    not just who's gonna pay for it it turns
  • 59:26
    out they don't even know how to measure
  • 59:27
    this stuff well this meeting is all
  • 59:29
    about putting the Paris agreement those
  • 59:31
    women back in 2015 into action so every
  • 59:35
    country made a promise back then to
  • 59:36
    reduce greenhouse gases a certain amount
  • 59:38
    but every promise is different so it's
  • 59:41
    really hard to come up with a set of
  • 59:43
    rules that everyone we're talking about
  • 59:44
    almost 200 countries thinks is fair for
  • 59:47
    tracking our collective progress what
  • 59:49
    seems to be the principal sticking
  • 59:51
    points right now well there are a couple
  • 59:54
    things on a really this really is basic
  • 59:58
    countries still haven't agreed on how
  • 1:00:00
    they are going to track their carbon
  • 1:00:02
    emissions and how much information
  • 1:00:03
    they're going to disclose to each other
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    about their economies which is part of
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    that just right there
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    they haven't even agreed on how to track
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    it
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    don't you stick a tube in the air and
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    it's like Oh 350 parts per million we're
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    all gonna die isn't that how it's done I
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    mean this if anything we've been taught
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    and convinced by compiled repetition
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    that this is exactly Noah Clayton can
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    measure exactly what's happening
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    yeah I don't think that's what they're
  • 1:00:33
    talking about about the ambient air or
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    co2 constituency in terms of how much
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    there is then what are they talking
  • 1:00:42
    about how much is being pumped in to the
  • 1:00:45
    system from factories well they say they
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    can't agree on how to measures they say
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    they haven't agreed on how to measure it
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    that's that's what they're saying yeah I
  • 1:00:54
    think they don't know how to measure the
  • 1:00:57
    they know how much is in the air but
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    they don't know how to measure what's
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    going into the air I think that's what
  • 1:01:02
    they're referring to it okay countries
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    right major I just got a little device
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    you turn it on you stick it outside you
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    can measure the co2 out here it's not
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    that hard
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    no they're done by something else Oh
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    Kevin agreed on how they are going to
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    track their carbon emissions and how
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    much information they're going to
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    disclose to each other about their
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    economies which is part of that and some
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    countries are more private than others
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    about their economies so for example
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    China China is notoriously private the
  • 1:01:29
    u.s. actually is - we don't really love
  • 1:01:32
    to give extra information to other
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    countries in the world about how we
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    operate
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    so on the flipside poorer countries are
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    worried they don't know how they're
  • 1:01:41
    gonna pay for the kind of in-depth in
  • 1:01:42
    classes that it takes to track emissions
  • 1:01:44
    they want richer countries to help them
  • 1:01:46
    with that and also to help them with
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    paying for all sorts of things that come
  • 1:01:51
    along with climate change whether it be
  • 1:01:53
    lost in damage or other stuff in the
  • 1:01:55
    past that divide between more developed
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    countries and less developed countries
  • 1:01:58
    on the planet has has been pronounced to
  • 1:02:02
    the point where there were different
  • 1:02:03
    rules depending on if a country was
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    richer or poorer is that still the case
  • 1:02:08
    well no that did change with the Paris
  • 1:02:11
    agreement and that's a good thing so
  • 1:02:13
    every country regardless of how much the
  • 1:02:15
    country has in its GDP every country had
  • 1:02:18
    to make a promise that it thought it
  • 1:02:20
    could achieve to reduce its greenhouse
  • 1:02:21
    gas emissions but there's still a lot of
  • 1:02:25
    tension between richer countries and
  • 1:02:26
    poorer countries so for example
  • 1:02:28
    countries in Southeast Asia and the
  • 1:02:31
    Pacific and parts of Africa there are
  • 1:02:33
    suffering enormous losses already
  • 1:02:35
    because of climate change right so
  • 1:02:37
    catastrophic flooding we see some of
  • 1:02:39
    these things in the u.s. - this is where
  • 1:02:41
    she goes off the rails cuz now she now
  • 1:02:43
    she's gonna have to defend the science
  • 1:02:45
    right and that's all she can do is they
  • 1:02:47
    makes a statement it says right because
  • 1:02:49
    you know it's right right that's what
  • 1:02:51
    subliminally going on in her head she
  • 1:02:53
    just gotta be right right Africa there
  • 1:02:57
    are suffering enormous losses already
  • 1:02:59
    because of climate change
  • 1:03:00
    right so catastrophic flooding we see
  • 1:03:03
    some of these things in the u.s. too but
  • 1:03:05
    it's much more pronounced in other parts
  • 1:03:06
    of the world Islands disappearing all
  • 1:03:08
    together
  • 1:03:10
    it's just gone dial I don't know islands
  • 1:03:13
    are disappearing right right right other
  • 1:03:17
    parts of the world Islands disappearing
  • 1:03:19
    all together this is NPR one or munch
  • 1:03:21
    right drought famine but those countries
  • 1:03:25
    actually aren't the countries that have
  • 1:03:27
    emitted the most being house gases right
  • 1:03:29
    like basically the Industrial Revolution
  • 1:03:30
    started spouting carbon dioxide into the
  • 1:03:33
    atmosphere in the 1800s so we and that
  • 1:03:37
    being the u.s. the EU major
  • 1:03:40
    industrialized nations who have been
  • 1:03:42
    industrialized for a long time are
  • 1:03:43
    responsible for most emissions and yet
  • 1:03:46
    other countries are right now paying
  • 1:03:49
    some of good price and so the question
  • 1:03:50
    is what kind of I'll use the term
  • 1:03:52
    revolution but we're talking about
  • 1:03:54
    payments for that loss India what I
  • 1:03:56
    think you can kill this any time she's
  • 1:03:58
    just rambling just let me end about that
  • 1:04:00
    I put left it in here for a reason
  • 1:04:01
    in the past those have been on table but
  • 1:04:05
    as of right now and we're going into
  • 1:04:07
    overtime here there is nothing specific
  • 1:04:10
    so far coming out of this meeting so one
  • 1:04:12
    of the big questions in the next who
  • 1:04:15
    knows it could be a couple hours it
  • 1:04:17
    could be a whole nother day is what type
  • 1:04:21
    of payment might we be able to get
  • 1:04:23
    coming from richer countries and going
  • 1:04:25
    to poorer countries for that sort of
  • 1:04:27
    thing so the whole point for our younger
  • 1:04:29
    listeners
  • 1:04:29
    from take it from two old guys who have
  • 1:04:31
    been around the block on a couple of
  • 1:04:33
    these this is not right and when you
  • 1:04:35
    hear all these douchebags sitting around
  • 1:04:37
    in Poland and all they can talk about is
  • 1:04:39
    who's gonna pay who who's gonna gouge
  • 1:04:42
    the Americans damnit they left that's
  • 1:04:46
    what's going on here this is not about
  • 1:04:48
    your environment this is a this is a
  • 1:04:50
    money grab and it's no different and how
  • 1:04:53
    many billions was the y2k scare
  • 1:04:56
    outrageous didn't help the dot-com
  • 1:05:00
    collapse from the late 90s and when they
  • 1:05:02
    write to case care came along it sunk
  • 1:05:05
    the economy that's how bad it was
  • 1:05:07
    exactly
  • 1:05:09
    exactly the economy went into a tailspin
  • 1:05:12
    in large part because of y2k but also in
  • 1:05:16
    combination with the dot-com collapse
  • 1:05:17
    and then it was exacerbated by the 9/11
  • 1:05:21
    thing and then we were in now we went
  • 1:05:23
    going to a decade of no growth yeah
  • 1:05:28
    and that's what would happen with this
  • 1:05:29
    this would this would sink the world
  • 1:05:31
    economy and it would just be taking
  • 1:05:33
    money from us and giving it to some
  • 1:05:35
    people are gonna they don't even use it
  • 1:05:37
    they give it to their leaders these
  • 1:05:39
    these corrupt leaders and then they
  • 1:05:41
    become rich guys living in Gustad
  • 1:05:43
    Switzerland you know as I was reading
  • 1:05:48
    through with all these documents and I'm
  • 1:05:50
    trying to get a copy of the rule book so
  • 1:05:52
    we can understand what rules will have
  • 1:05:53
    to be implemented III said Tina said
  • 1:05:56
    it's so odd with the Netherlands which
  • 1:05:58
    is about 25 percent below sea level
  • 1:06:00
    which is reclaimed land I don't hear the
  • 1:06:04
    Netherlands freaking out too much about
  • 1:06:06
    all the islands are disappearing how can
  • 1:06:09
    we survive Amsterdam will be unwell be
  • 1:06:12
    underwater you'd never hear them talk
  • 1:06:14
    about that and so I did one Bing search
  • 1:06:17
    and the first thing that popped up is
  • 1:06:19
    that the UN climate panel had to admit
  • 1:06:24
    they had exaggerated the Dutch sea level
  • 1:06:27
    they said in one of their early reports
  • 1:06:30
    2007 I think they said 50% of the
  • 1:06:33
    Netherlands is below sea level it could
  • 1:06:35
    be 55 they're all going to drown and the
  • 1:06:37
    Dutch hey stop that we know how to
  • 1:06:40
    manage our water but this is never a
  • 1:06:43
    conversation in the Dutch in the Dutch
  • 1:06:46
    media when it comes to climate change oh
  • 1:06:48
    yeah we're all gonna to have the
  • 1:06:49
    conversation they never talk about the
  • 1:06:51
    sea level which should just drown
  • 1:06:53
    everybody so these are all the little
  • 1:06:55
    things you got to pay attention well the
  • 1:06:57
    thing that's I think what you missed was
  • 1:07:00
    the more interesting part of this where
  • 1:07:02
    they've decided I think all the points
  • 1:07:04
    you made are valid and I think it's led
  • 1:07:06
    to the next step
  • 1:07:09
    which is next step because they can't
  • 1:07:11
    get enough traction yeah we got every
  • 1:07:13
    kid just so you know they say that
  • 1:07:14
    they're in the phase they're in now and
  • 1:07:16
    reading the documents they're now in the
  • 1:07:19
    political phase they say for some reason
  • 1:07:23
    now now that now the politicians
  • 1:07:24
    hesitate this is cop 24 moving into cop
  • 1:07:30
    25 I think that's the political phase I
  • 1:07:33
    think that's next year in New York by
  • 1:07:34
    the way could be so yes your point well
  • 1:07:37
    the thing coming up now is the
  • 1:07:39
    extinction rebellion which just started
  • 1:07:42
    in the UK catching on and they had a
  • 1:07:45
    bunch of these people at the cop 24
  • 1:07:48
    whatever it was with of course Amy is
  • 1:07:50
    pushing this on democracy now let's
  • 1:07:52
    listen to what this is all about
  • 1:07:54
    this is extinction rebellion one we turn
  • 1:07:57
    now to look at a UK based movement
  • 1:08:00
    taking extreme action to fight the
  • 1:08:02
    climate crisis it's called extinction
  • 1:08:05
    rebellion its members have been
  • 1:08:08
    supergluing themselves to government
  • 1:08:10
    buildings shutting down roads taking to
  • 1:08:13
    the streets to sound the alarm about the
  • 1:08:16
    impending catastrophe of global warming
  • 1:08:19
    extinction rebellion marched here in
  • 1:08:21
    Katowice last Saturday to protest UN
  • 1:08:23
    climate talks in November extinction
  • 1:08:26
    rebellion protesters shut down London
  • 1:08:28
    bridges blockaded the UK Department for
  • 1:08:30
    business and energy and attempted to
  • 1:08:32
    interrupt brexit negotiations well there
  • 1:08:37
    you go when you traumatize kids enough
  • 1:08:39
    this is what should they start
  • 1:08:40
    supergluing themselves to buildings
  • 1:08:42
    that's what happening thing was a great
  • 1:08:45
    idea there was I had one clip where
  • 1:08:47
    there was a bunch of people like you had
  • 1:08:49
    with one after the other after the other
  • 1:08:51
    complaining but I decided just ISIL this
  • 1:08:55
    one guy who is super glued to a fence
  • 1:08:58
    and he is screaming his his objections
  • 1:09:02
    and what it's all about and this guy I'm
  • 1:09:05
    guessing his around he's in his early
  • 1:09:07
    20s
  • 1:09:08
    he's bearded I guess to prevent facial
  • 1:09:11
    recognition screaming out what the
  • 1:09:15
    problems are and why these people these
  • 1:09:17
    cops and the nation's and everybody's
  • 1:09:19
    not paying attention because we're all
  • 1:09:20
    gonna die and this is the worst case
  • 1:09:22
    scenario
  • 1:09:22
    all gonna die play this I so complacent
  • 1:09:27
    in the mass murder of old life on this
  • 1:09:30
    Ronnie
  • 1:09:34
    whole life all life uh-huh all life on
  • 1:09:38
    this planet according to everybody in
  • 1:09:40
    this group is is under attack we're in
  • 1:09:43
    it there's not gonna be a living thing
  • 1:09:45
    well there's all a lot of stories I
  • 1:09:47
    didn't even hear what you talking about
  • 1:09:50
    that was Horowitz about les bugs and he
  • 1:09:52
    was like I was driving across the
  • 1:09:53
    country and now I remember tons of bugs
  • 1:09:55
    less bugs and I'm like well there's a
  • 1:09:58
    couple I want to talk about them it just
  • 1:10:00
    I got one less tip but I want to mention
  • 1:10:02
    the less bugs I just have thoughts about
  • 1:10:03
    the less bugs mm-hmm
  • 1:10:05
    couple of things about less bugs in
  • 1:10:07
    California when I was a kid we used to
  • 1:10:10
    draw you no matter where you drive
  • 1:10:12
    specially if it went from California or
  • 1:10:13
    from services for Los Angeles and back
  • 1:10:15
    before that you'd get a lot of bugs hit
  • 1:10:16
    the car and at the time you got the LA
  • 1:10:19
    or back the car would be covered with
  • 1:10:21
    bugs that you ran into sure I was
  • 1:10:24
    thinking about this because there are
  • 1:10:27
    less bugs that you hit the car but like
  • 1:10:30
    when I Drive my Lexus for example that s
  • 1:10:32
    c4 and most cars and I would ask people
  • 1:10:35
    to do this experiment just stay by the
  • 1:10:38
    side of the road and listen to cars as
  • 1:10:40
    they go by a number of cars that will go
  • 1:10:42
    by unless they got noisy engines but
  • 1:10:45
    let's say that they don't you hear
  • 1:10:47
    nothing is just wish and then there's a
  • 1:10:49
    couple of cars that go by you hear you
  • 1:10:51
    can hear the car wait a minute wait a
  • 1:10:54
    minute you're gonna tell me because the
  • 1:10:56
    bugs aren't hearing the cars anymore I
  • 1:10:59
    don't understand the point is is that
  • 1:11:02
    the aerodynamics of today's cars lifts
  • 1:11:06
    the bugs up and over the car's
  • 1:11:08
    windshield their bug friendly
  • 1:11:11
    because it's cutting through because all
  • 1:11:13
    these cars are aerodynamic have you ever
  • 1:11:14
    been into one of these electric cars
  • 1:11:15
    those things are so aerodynamic it's
  • 1:11:17
    they're super silent when they go by and
  • 1:11:20
    that's the point I'm making about the
  • 1:11:21
    silence is that they in the olden days
  • 1:11:23
    in 1955 Plymouth no wait a minute they
  • 1:11:33
    had those fins on the back that must
  • 1:11:35
    have helped for something straight line
  • 1:11:38
    so the bugs would hit you more drive
  • 1:11:44
    around if I get bugs going right up and
  • 1:11:49
    over the car okay so there's no bug
  • 1:11:55
    pocalypse I'm so disappointed it's just
  • 1:11:57
    the aerodynamics we also use more bugs
  • 1:12:00
    killer I think that has a lot that we
  • 1:12:02
    people let's get back to the extinction
  • 1:12:04
    rebellion part to remembering now they
  • 1:12:07
    have one of the founders are one of the
  • 1:12:09
    early guys are in but they have logos or
  • 1:12:14
    they've got a beautiful website
  • 1:12:15
    extinction rebellion and it's a it's a
  • 1:12:18
    part of the rising up group and that got
  • 1:12:20
    donations going is sunrise movements
  • 1:12:23
    part of this I don't see them yet but it
  • 1:12:25
    wouldn't surprise me
  • 1:12:26
    well they mention it but thing is these
  • 1:12:29
    guys have decided to take it to the next
  • 1:12:31
    level all right we're gonna have the few
  • 1:12:34
    islands disappear all life on Earth will
  • 1:12:38
    cease to exist a movement taking radical
  • 1:12:41
    action to combat the climate crisis it
  • 1:12:44
    started in the United Kingdom just six
  • 1:12:46
    months ago is now spread to at least 35
  • 1:12:48
    countries extinction rebellions
  • 1:12:50
    demanding governments commit to legally
  • 1:12:52
    binding measures to slash consumption
  • 1:12:54
    reduce carbon emissions to Net Zero by
  • 1:12:56
    2025 we're joined right now by
  • 1:12:59
    extinction rebellion activist lien Gary