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1094: Justice 4 Hillary

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 53m
December 13th, 2018
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Executive Producers: Sir Onymous of Dogpatch and Lower Slobbovia, Sir Craig Mazzella, Sir Rodger Boots, Sir Kevlar, Anna & Nick Blexrud, Brian Lawson, Sir Chris Speers, Steven Rink, Kyle Blank

Associate Executive Producers: James Schmid, George Kunath, Sir Cal, Christian Castro, Mark Jasper, Andrew Brewer, Sir Foxbat

Cover Art by Insane Moe

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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Apple to Invest $1 Billion in New Austin Campus
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4:40
Trump, Pelosi and Schumer Meeting About Border Wall and Government Shutdown
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17:27
UK Parliament Member Expelled for Grabbing Ceremonial Mace
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20:04
Steph Curry Says We Never Went to the Moon
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23:32
Swedish Teen Skips School to Protest Against Climate Change
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27:12
Sunrise Movement
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35:04
Trudeau Defends Carbon Tax
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39:37
France Police Used Secret Weapon Against Yellow Vest Protesters
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40:53
Arctic Warming Twice as Fast as the Rest of the Globe
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45:39
Google CEO Sundar Pichai Testifies Before the House Judiciary
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1:02:24
Credits
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1:31:29
Deplatforming Works
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1:34:50
NPR Releases Open Source Podcast Metrics Project RAD
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1:45:19
Bloomberg Talks 2020 Presidential Election Chances
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1:49:27
Time Magazine's Person of the Year are 4 Journalists and a Newspaper
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1:54:15
Jamal Khashoggi
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2:13:00
Crackpot Theory Connecting Rowe Bergdahl Release to Benghazi
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2:17:26
Donations
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2:35:59
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:37:55
Victims Detail Alleged Abuse By Esteemed Doctor At Rockefeller University Hospital
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2:43:01
Producer Note: Transgender Identity Politics
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2:46:07
Theresa May Wins No-Confidence Vote by MPs Unhappy Over Brexit
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2:47:52
Quarter of College Students Send Texts Without Remembering During Sleep
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2:49:28
End of Show
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    Adam curry
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    Jhansi Devore award-winning
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    assassination episode is no agenda
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    you got the traffic
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    traffic's about to get really good here
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    in Austin oh that's good news
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    oh it's very bad news it's the traffic
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    in Austin is already horrible and today
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    we hear this announcement Apple now
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    saying it's going to invest a billion
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    dollars in new campus in Austin Texas
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    the campus will be 133 acres and will
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    accommodate 5,000 employees at first
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    with capacity for up to 15,000 in total
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    and be located less than a mile from
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    Apple's existing Texas facilities and
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    will make it the largest private
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    employer in Austin Apple says will house
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    a range of jobs and engineering R&D
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    operations finance sales and customer
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    support the news Manning its operations
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    and having more than a thousand jobs in
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    Seattle San Diego and Culver City
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    California as well so it isn't an HQ to
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    Amazon style but it's a big investment
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    in Austin Austin's already there their
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    biggest for an outpost outside of
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    headquarters I think there's something
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    like 6,000 people there already remember
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    last last year and the I mean Austin's
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    just two robust city when it comes to
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    technology this it's pretty remarkable
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    what's going on there remarkable what's
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    going on here it's nothing to do with
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    technology
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    this is this this is the people part of
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    the business
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    get real CNBC this is the this is hey
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    payroll accountants content management
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    no technology it's all the sales support
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    I know I know people who work here
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    now it's like this the store supports of
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    the support for the stores themselves
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    who have a lot of issues all of this
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    this is people town it's not exciting
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    stay away
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    dick did they put him in South Carolina
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    or some place where people are pleasant
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    yeah but the problem is we have such a
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    sweet voice we have we have such a
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    fantastic tax structure in the state of
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    Texas see this is why you put the people
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    here that's what it's about
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    yeah they don't to pay personal income
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    tax in the state level it's great for
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    you this one just like 10 plus percent
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    10 to 13 percent at the tax mmm-hmm
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    yeah so would you rather live if you're
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    making a lot of money at Apple
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    well Northwest Austin apparently you
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    said the Travers didn't get better
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    that's what I thought you said oh no no
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    no he'll just get worse it's already a
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    mess there's gotta be the worst thing is
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    gonna become worse than anywhere yeah
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    yeah the 405 will be looking looked at
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    as how this is cool yeah I don't think
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    they're in any danger of that happening
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    but dream on California boy it still
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    it's not good now and I'm not I'm not
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    very happy with this development we're
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    moving out of downtown that's for sure
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    where are you going well either we move
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    really nearby south of you know south of
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    the the river or maybe we'll go really
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    south maybe we'll go to Dripping Springs
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    or somewhere just way out of the way
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    Dripping Springs is nice that's where
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    all the rock stars live man Dripping
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    Springs yes uh-huh Wow yeah I know it's
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    great yeah go down and move down there
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    with Tim yeah maybe we'll see yeah now
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    where does that cut off because of all
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    the old rock stars now yeah hey
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    everybody
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    Adam Kerr here in Dripping Springs yeah
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    bug over well Dripping Springs
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    there was a lot of things going on in
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    the world although you wouldn't know it
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    if you watch the American television
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    news no we're pretty preoccupied with
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    what Cohen Cohen he's going to jail for
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    three years and Trump's going to jail
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    every was going to jail yeah Trump's
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    going to jail gonna be locked up lock
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    him up
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    yeah exactly again just completely
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    unwatchable on what the only thing that
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    was watchable was the and I liked it a
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    lot was the little show that Trump
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    Pelosi and Schumer put on in the Oval
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    Office entertaining everybody who went
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    to it thought it was entertaining and
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    they said I've never seen anything like
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    it well there you have it I think that's
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    the way it should always go
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    everything should be new know everything
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    should be out in the open and yeah and
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    what was you what a douche bag I mean
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    Schumer sitting there rocking like he's
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    got a spur jurors and he barely looks at
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    the president once in a while and then
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    he says stupid stuff that he thinks is
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    funny
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    what's in Veloz leap repeats herself and
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    she's stammering and she's upset about
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    everything for no good reason and he's
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    goading the two of them what I found
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    interesting was how at least on Twitter
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    which is kind of the only place I can
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    still go and find some outrage it was
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    you know the the classic two sides
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    everyone saw it in their own favorable
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    light the Trump the Trump fans he wiped
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    the floor with him
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    the Pelosi Schumer fans oh you hit a
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    brick walls she showed him it was
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    completely open to interpretation which
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    i think is it's just one of the
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    interesting things of our time
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    yeah yeah no you know you knows it's
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    become quite interesting I agree
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    I thought the media's of course this was
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    a like a I think the full the full
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    episode of the reality show lasted about
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    10 minutes what I found interesting is
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    how was cut up and what pieces were
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    pulled out and the one that I'll have
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    that I'll play for you is what the BBC
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    did with it oh that's big nice contrast
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    with what CBS did weather which is what
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    I have you want to do BBC first or CBS
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    let's think what would be their probably
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    versus Trump more let's go with CBS
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    which is the long clip okay because they
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    really got such a kick out of it and by
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    the way that I don't not sure I even
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    have the intro on this clip but it's
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    it's funny it's pretty funny and then we
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    have the easy one the wall that'll be
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    the one that will be the easiest of all
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    that was president Trump's attempt at a
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    joke in his first face-to-face meeting
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    with Democratic leaders after the
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    midterm election and with a partial
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    government shutdown 10 days away a
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    shutdown is not worth anything and that
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    you should not have its own shutdown you
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    have Democrats came to the White House
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    hoping that was kind of glossed over but
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    she she I thought that was very good
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    what she did she kind of basically
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    pulled a trump on him and said oh wait
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    we can't afford a trump shutdown and he
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    caught Italy called her out on it yeah
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    but it was it was very it was inaudible
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    and CBS just glossed right over it here
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    I should mention this I think as he was
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    calling her out on that he was thinking
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    to himself hey just call it the
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    truncation right which is kind of where
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    he ended up yeah by saying I'll be proud
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    Oh interesting
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    ten days away you shut down is not worth
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    anything and that you should not have a
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    constructive you have Democrats came to
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    the White House hoping to brand-ne
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    shutdown with the president's name the
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    toughest issue future funding of mr.
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    Trump's proposed wall on the southern
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    border if the president wants five
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    billion dollars for construction of the
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    wall
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    passed now while Republicans still have
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    control of the house while the Democrats
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    are only offering 1.3 billion to fund
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    broader border security measures and you
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    have border security without the wall
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    what it means to have border security we
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    need border security the wall is a part
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    of border security you can't have very
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    good border security without the wall
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    now the political fencing intensified
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    and the experts say you can do border
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    security without a wall which is
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    wasteful and doesn't solve the problem
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    it totally solves the problem Democrats
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    arrived fresh off a 40 seat midterm
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    gained in the house we've gained in the
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    Senate excuse me did we win the Senate
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    when the president brags that he won
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    North Dakota in Indiana he's in real
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    trouble you know as as now having
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    extended family in the great state of
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    Indiana being a half Hoosier I'm
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    incredibly insulted by this
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    yeah it was insulting Schumer's comment
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    although I asked Tina and she's like I
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    don't give a crap she identifies more
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    with the Chicago but it may just seems
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    it's like a dumb thing to and it
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    politically doesn't matter but other
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    states who are kind of flyover I think
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    that might have been a - point for
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    Schumer when the president brags that he
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    won North Dakota and Indiana he's in
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    real trouble well I did we did win
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    Dakota in a unique white house the
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    legislative clash was in a class by
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    itself and we're entering into a of this
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    kind of an of discussion in the public
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    no a new cold transparency at one point
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    the president tried to speak for the
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    likely Speaker of the House to be you
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    know Nancy's in a situation where it's
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    not easy for her to talk right now and I
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    understand that please don't
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    characterize the strength that I bring
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    for this meeting as a leader of the
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    House Democrats the back and forth
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    landed it appears where both sides
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    wanted it a televised political standoff
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    20 times y'all have called for I will
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    shut down the government if I don't get
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    my wolf
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    none of us have said no so you've said
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    you want to put that on set I'll take it
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    okay good you know what I'll say yes if
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    we don't get what we want I will shut
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    down the go up there now and I am proud
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    and I'll be disagree I am proud to shut
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    down the government for border security
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    judge I'm not gonna blame you for it
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    leader Pelosi vying to be the next house
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    speaker told Democrats in a private
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    meeting the encounter here at the White
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    House with the president quote goes to
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    show you you get into a tinkle contest
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    with a skunk
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    you get tinkle all over you as for the
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    president's continues pushed to the wall
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    Pelosi said and again I quote it's like
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    a manhood thing for him as if manhood
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    could ever be associated with him
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    is really interesting because this was a
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    quote that came from an unnamed source
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    and they're kind of reporting it is it
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    had really happened yeah do they even
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    say the source of one of them and just
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    go back no speaker told Democrats in a
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    private meeting the encounter here at
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    the White House with the president quote
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    yeah because I saw the reporting on it
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    it was just because I was like oh is
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    there a clip of this and this is what I
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    need to clip now there's no clip I bet
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    it was just something that someone said
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    she said goes to show you you get into a
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    tinkle contest with a skunk oh I'm not
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    saying she didn't it's just the
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    reporting that bothers me that's all
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    just that little display or whatever it
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    worth while over you as for the
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    president's continued push for the wall
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    Pelosi said and again I quote it's like
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    a manhood thing for him as if manhood
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    could ever be associated with him for
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    his part the president said born
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    security in wall funding is common sense
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    and a political winner
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    even if wrapped around a government
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    shutdown yep okay just remarkable
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    major spirits right in the middle of all
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    of it today oh my goodness just
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    remarkable I got that I saw of that for
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    the end of the show because I think it
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    would reflect on the show that's a good
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    one just remarkable yeah I also have one
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    that I'll get to later that's definitely
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    a contender for sure now let's go to the
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    BBC significantly shorter but you kind
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    of get their slant on it pleasure and of
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    course we'll bring you more on that
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    breaking news from Strasbourg when we
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    have it now to American politics where
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    there was quite a scene at the White
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    House today Democratic leaders Nancy
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    Pelosi and Chuck Schumer went to the
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    Oval Office to talk funding for
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    president Trump's border wall with
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    Mexico mr. drummer threatened to shut
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    down the government if he doesn't get
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    the money and here's what happened as
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    the cameras were rolling Nancy I do and
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    we need border security I got Nancy we
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    need border security we'll called 20
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    times to shut down the government you
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    say I want to shut down the government
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    we don't when the president brags that
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    he won North Dakota and Indiana he's
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    real trouble please don't characterize
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    the strength that I bring to this
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    perhaps in South consequences mr.
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    president I am proud to shut down the
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    government for border security chatter
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    well now well you heard Chuck Schumer's
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    say their elections have consequences
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    and after that scene is anything to go
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    by
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    once Democrats control the house in
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    January it will be a bumpy ride
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    so mr. Trump's hunt for a new chief of
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    staff isn't so there you go that was
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    kind of lame well they what they just a
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    whole bunch of contacts so they put a
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    whole bunch of Pelosi and Schumer you
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    know clips edited those all together and
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    then and then had him say oh I'm gonna
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    do the shutdown so thanks BBC and of
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    course they should look in their own
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    music wish well here's the question I
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    have for that meeting
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    with Pelosi and Schumer there
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    I mean these guys are a couple I didn't
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    go out with the tinkling and the guys
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    not a man and all the rest of it but why
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    doesn't one of the two of them is so
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    simple say why should we be funding the
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    wall you said Mexico is gonna pay for it
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    somebody should have just said that I
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    agree what he did I agree
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    but you said what we gonna do we're
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    gonna build a wall who's gonna pay for
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    it Mexico I've heard you say that I've
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    heard it in there in your in your
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    meetings I've meetups why not why I
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    thought Mexico is gonna pay for why are
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    we paying a nickel
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    ya know because that because that's
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    clearly not the issue I mean what he's
  • 15:12
    talking about what I've heard is five
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    billion dollars which is a rounding
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    error in the stupid crap we do look at
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    the farm bill did you see the farm bill
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    is just past eight hundred and sixty
  • 15:22
    billion yeah eight hundred and sixty
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    billion dollar farm bill not a peep just
  • 15:29
    for subsidies yeah subsidies all kinds
  • 15:31
    of interesting stuff now you can be part
  • 15:34
    of an ongoing farm operation if you're a
  • 15:36
    second cousin is all weird stuff in
  • 15:39
    there so you know you get compensated as
  • 15:41
    the commodities compensation it's huge
  • 15:44
    not a peep anywhere not a peep but I
  • 15:47
    have a solution to this because the way
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    I saw it I saw two sides wanting border
  • 15:54
    security one wanting a wall and one
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    being okay with a fence I mean that's
  • 15:58
    kind of where it's at right is if now
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    we're down to the some would say
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    semantics but others would say it's a
  • 16:04
    different structure and the wall is very
  • 16:06
    scary and you know shows that we are
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    afraid of brown people or whatever I've
  • 16:10
    heard all week long and the other one
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    it's kind of friendly you know it's just
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    a fence so here's a simple solution
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    build a fence
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    electrify the fence yeah I was thinking
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    the same thing
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    that's the way to go Electrify it
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    Electrify adventure did yeah or you know
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    tasered basically a Taser fence not one
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    of those chopped your hands off it's
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    just an idea I mean it's not much worse
  • 16:41
    than that razor wire that I see I mean
  • 16:44
    that's that's pretty nasty except now
  • 16:46
    you would have a different issue trying
  • 16:48
    to get through it anyway it's the whole
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    thing is stupid I don't think it's gonna
  • 16:51
    work I don't think he'll get it done
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    I don't think there will be any funding
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    of any wall before the end of the year
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    well he cast a possibility deciding the
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    whole thing slide until next year and
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    then just using a chunk of the military
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    budget
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    he gave an extra like 16 billion I think
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    is I think he's I think does this that's
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    actually slush fund take it out of the a
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    said that if were they do it through you
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    or through the military yeah sorry the
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    Army Corps of Engineers I think is the
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    way to do that then yeah probably yeah
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    under the build the wall okay well I
  • 17:24
    don't add the whole thing is shit that's
  • 17:26
    a good exercise I like what happened in
  • 17:28
    British Parliament though as the brexit
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    deal than the the arguments just make
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    everyone nuts over there one member of
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    parliament took it a bit far sending in
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    questions BBC OS is the hash tag and
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    here's one coming in from a BBC news
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    channel viewers saying what happened
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    with the mace in Parliament well I can
  • 17:45
    help you out with that one a Labour MP
  • 17:47
    Lloyd Russell morale has been ordered
  • 17:49
    out at the House of Commons for the rest
  • 17:51
    of the day after he removed the mace you
  • 17:54
    can see him holding it there in protest
  • 17:56
    of the government's decision to delay
  • 17:58
    the vote now the mace is a ceremonial
  • 18:00
    Club which represents royal authority if
  • 18:03
    it's removed the Commons cannot debate
  • 18:05
    or passed laws after mr. Russell moil
  • 18:09
    took the mace he walked towards the main
  • 18:11
    doors in the Commons chamber he was
  • 18:13
    stopped by commas officials who took the
  • 18:14
    mace off him and returned it as you can
  • 18:17
    see to its place in front of the
  • 18:19
    Speaker's chair but he was politely
  • 18:21
    asked to vacate for the rest of the day
  • 18:24
    what the mace the sacred Illuminati
  • 18:27
    stick is the actual audio was much
  • 18:32
    funnier of the Speaker of Parliament he
  • 18:35
    was he's like oh no what's going on here
  • 18:40
    [Applause]
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    [Applause]
  • 18:53
    that
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    [Applause]
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    I'm grateful to thee I just think the
  • 19:07
    whole thing is funny we should have more
  • 19:09
    of that here that's why I liked with
  • 19:11
    Trump and Pelosi you know that that mace
  • 19:13
    had to be there yeah oh yeah it has
  • 19:17
    power that so of course the you know
  • 19:18
    church and state and everything and the
  • 19:21
    Qui it's all separate but the way it
  • 19:24
    works is the you know the the royal
  • 19:25
    family the Queen is represented by the
  • 19:27
    mace and so that is her seal of approval
  • 19:30
    that you can that you can discuss you
  • 19:33
    can't even discuss without the mace
  • 19:35
    present but when they said but when the
  • 19:38
    queen is in Parliament then the mace is
  • 19:40
    removed so there can be no governing so
  • 19:42
    she can't interfere with anything
  • 19:44
    something like that it's interesting
  • 19:47
    these old these old traditions Justin
  • 19:50
    damn stick I thought it'd be a lot
  • 19:52
    heavier to guy picked it up like was
  • 19:54
    just balsa wood maybe it's a bird made
  • 19:59
    of balsa wood this is a replica
  • 20:03
    man all right I got one more popular
  • 20:06
    item than we can drill in this stuff I'm
  • 20:08
    actually a little surprised did you I
  • 20:10
    mean you know that I'm a big sports fan
  • 20:14
    and an obviously Steph Curry my brother
  • 20:18
    from another mother went out on a limb
  • 20:20
    and said he did not believe that we'd
  • 20:22
    landed on the moon which makes two
  • 20:24
    curries out of thousands I think maybe
  • 20:28
    all the curries pretty much all the
  • 20:30
    curries are now safe I'm not saying this
  • 20:32
    and then I think NASA is at all you
  • 20:36
    don't believe that come over here we'll
  • 20:37
    show you our moon rocks and but I I got
  • 20:41
    the biggest kick out of how far this was
  • 20:44
    taken by my buddies over there at the
  • 20:47
    PTI podcast which I listened to all the
  • 20:49
    time you ever listen to PTI the guys at
  • 20:52
    PTI do you listen to PTI I'm like Petey
  • 20:59
    I've always liked it it stands for
  • 21:01
    pardon the interruption there's nothing
  • 21:02
    you probably don't know yes I do I see
  • 21:05
    it right here on the album art it okay I
  • 21:08
    clipped this myself I'll have you know
  • 21:10
    this is okay I'm not gonna go into this
  • 21:15
    just to go ahead and play your little
  • 21:16
    game ridiculing the sports fans out
  • 21:19
    there who are more serious about things
  • 21:20
    than you are I'm guessing yesterday we
  • 21:23
    mentioned that Steph Curry did not
  • 21:25
    believe that men had ever landed on the
  • 21:27
    moon I said I thought this hat by the
  • 21:28
    way if this is the club you want to hang
  • 21:30
    out with with the rest of the sports
  • 21:31
    fans I don't need to belong to be a
  • 21:33
    light-hearted omage to Kyrie Irving
  • 21:36
    saying the earth was flat but it appears
  • 21:38
    curry actually believes this he said so
  • 21:40
    on the winging it podcast hosted by
  • 21:42
    fellow NBA arse Vince Carter and Kent
  • 21:45
    Bazemore will bond is questioning the
  • 21:46
    moon landing a bad look for Steph Curry
  • 21:48
    it's a bad look for everybody it is not
  • 21:49
    just staff curry I almost say this let
  • 21:51
    me start by saying if this is a joke if
  • 21:52
    they're just trolling people because I
  • 21:54
    believe Kyrie is doing that I feel
  • 21:55
    certain that he's doing that and I think
  • 21:57
    Stephanie would never let me just say
  • 21:58
    the three people who have taken up this
  • 22:00
    cause in the last 48 hours Marc Spears
  • 22:02
    of this network in this company Steph
  • 22:05
    Curry and Jalen Rose these people are my
  • 22:07
    friends I know them well
  • 22:08
    well I with them their discussions all
  • 22:10
    the time I know their intellects don't
  • 22:12
    do this don't come out and say we saw
  • 22:14
    these pictures that kind of grainy
  • 22:16
    they're black and white have
  • 22:17
    before I was born because does that mean
  • 22:19
    you don't believe in slavery does that
  • 22:20
    mean in the Revolutionary War there's
  • 22:23
    not have because it didn't happen don't
  • 22:25
    do that or you guys are too smart don't
  • 22:28
    do you're supposed to be are you saying
  • 22:30
    jail Argos jail another city jail today
  • 22:32
    this is my guys if you are as real as
  • 22:35
    you say if you are as technologically
  • 22:37
    savvy as you appear be don't do this
  • 22:39
    this is a very saying I don't believe in
  • 22:41
    history mister hell with history cuz it
  • 22:44
    didn't happen
  • 22:44
    while I was looking at my cell phone
  • 22:47
    watch a very small step to becoming a
  • 22:49
    Holocaust denier say this and I'm gonna
  • 22:54
    say this racist don't believe in slavery
  • 23:01
    Holocaust denier this is fantastic
  • 23:05
    what's wrong with these sports people
  • 23:06
    that's pretty standard sports talk
  • 23:09
    here's the I so I pulled don't do this
  • 23:12
    but that was kind of nice too
  • 23:15
    it's negative though
  • 23:17
    oh I'm sorry my it's positive oh okay
  • 23:21
    right we'll end the show on a high note
  • 23:25
    yeah yes we always do you got it you got
  • 23:29
    it all right
  • 23:31
    I think the see you want to start
  • 23:35
    somewhere specifically
  • 23:37
    now let's go to climate change if you
  • 23:40
    want to okay we'll take it right into
  • 23:42
    the to the young kids with the green New
  • 23:44
    Deal hit me what you got well let's
  • 23:46
    start off first of all there's this the
  • 23:48
    rage in the climate circles who is the
  • 23:51
    climate girl a little fifteen-year-old
  • 23:54
    who got involved with climate change
  • 23:56
    when she was nine because she's so
  • 23:58
    knowledgeable about it and so then of
  • 24:01
    course all these Amy Goodman everybody's
  • 24:03
    picked up on this woman-girl
  • 24:07
    I'm not familiar with this is this this
  • 24:10
    is a meme that I've missed it dude this
  • 24:13
    is well if you were the climate if you
  • 24:15
    were if you knew anything about climate
  • 24:17
    change and you were a big believer I
  • 24:19
    would know let's go to intro the Greta
  • 24:24
    the climate change girl with a climate
  • 24:27
    activists who says politicians here are
  • 24:29
    not doing enough to turn back the clock
  • 24:31
    and prevent catastrophic climate change
  • 24:33
    fifteen-year-old Greta soonduk she has
  • 24:36
    made international headlines since
  • 24:38
    launching a school strike against
  • 24:40
    climate change in her home country of
  • 24:42
    Sweden in September she sat on the steps
  • 24:45
    of the Parliament in Stockholm every
  • 24:47
    school day for three weeks leading up to
  • 24:50
    the Swedish elections to demand that
  • 24:52
    politicians take more radical action to
  • 24:55
    stop global warming after the election
  • 24:57
    she went back to school four days a week
  • 24:59
    but every Friday
  • 25:00
    Yetta continues to sit outside the
  • 25:03
    Parliament building in protest her
  • 25:05
    actions have inspired thousands of
  • 25:07
    students across the globe to do the same
  • 25:09
    good after teen berg has Asperger's
  • 25:12
    syndrome she has focused with laser
  • 25:14
    intensity on climate change since she
  • 25:17
    was nine years old she brought her
  • 25:19
    message directly to world leaders here
  • 25:21
    in Katowice at the UN climate summit
  • 25:22
    last week this is Greta addressing UN
  • 25:26
    Secretary General Antonio Guterres
  • 25:29
    I think this is a mistake though I think
  • 25:32
    they're making a mistake with her they
  • 25:34
    need to get the people who are just
  • 25:36
    about a voting age they're the ones that
  • 25:38
    are most effective
  • 25:39
    this is tugging on heartstrings I don't
  • 25:41
    think does it anymore
  • 25:45
    I think this whole thing is a joke but
  • 25:48
    I'm only gonna play a piece of her
  • 25:51
    little speech but she goes on and on and
  • 25:54
    on and on and I Kris are very the thing
  • 25:56
    about somebody that's 15 and is erudite
  • 25:59
    which she seems to be is that you have
  • 26:03
    to let her talk so they let her talk for
  • 26:05
    I don't know days seem to be a problem
  • 26:10
    yes I agree I have similar issues here
  • 26:13
    you go instead I will ask the people
  • 26:14
    around the world to realize that our
  • 26:17
    political leaders have failed us because
  • 26:19
    we are facing an existential threat hold
  • 26:21
    on a second she's 15
  • 26:23
    yeah no no she's and she's a midget
  • 26:25
    she's a little person this is impossible
  • 26:27
    this is not a fifteen-year-old
  • 26:29
    and there's no time to continue down
  • 26:31
    this road of madness rich countries like
  • 26:34
    Sweden need to start reducing emissions
  • 26:37
    by at least 15 percent every year to
  • 26:41
    stay below a two degree warming target
  • 26:43
    you would think the media and every one
  • 26:45
    of our leaders will be talking about
  • 26:47
    nothing else but they never even mention
  • 26:49
    it
  • 26:50
    notice how do anyone ever mentioned that
  • 26:52
    we are in the midst of the sixth mass
  • 26:54
    extinction with up to 200 species going
  • 26:57
    extinct every single child abuse that's
  • 27:03
    involved but she's got every single meal
  • 27:05
    every metric every every little thing
  • 27:08
    she's got in there of course yeah oh
  • 27:11
    okay
  • 27:12
    then I'll play you now you're so right
  • 27:16
    about these kids that they go on and on
  • 27:18
    and on and on and I've been tracking the
  • 27:20
    sunrise movement now and this is the
  • 27:23
    group that protested again at Nancy
  • 27:26
    Pelosi's office yeah up on the hill
  • 27:29
    there are photos from that protest in
  • 27:32
    the last newsletter that was actually
  • 27:34
    the next day that was the protest in her
  • 27:36
    in California they were in Washington DC
  • 27:38
    the day before and they lined the halls
  • 27:41
    and they were getting arrested and then
  • 27:42
    they did the same thing with her office
  • 27:44
    and in Sanford's San Francisco yeah
  • 27:47
    where's Pelosi was she the target she's
  • 27:49
    like on their side no she's not see the
  • 27:51
    thing is she created the first select
  • 27:54
    committee for the green new deal in 2007
  • 27:57
    in anticipation of Van Jones and Barack
  • 28:00
    Obama who then
  • 28:01
    couldn't get it off the ground mainly
  • 28:02
    because Van Jones got kicked out as a
  • 28:04
    9/11 truther which he won't admit to
  • 28:07
    anymore and so that kind of fell by the
  • 28:09
    wayside but it also did not have any
  • 28:11
    power to draft legislation that's why
  • 28:14
    they're saying this is different and of
  • 28:16
    course I'm seeing the signs I'm seeing
  • 28:18
    professional signs oh yeah this can't
  • 28:20
    come heist this can't come they're very
  • 28:22
    nice
  • 28:24
    they and their logo is very good yeah
  • 28:27
    that upside down kind of cats I don't
  • 28:31
    know it's asleep it feels like mind
  • 28:34
    control when you look at like I'm going
  • 28:35
    into the logo now so I looked into who
  • 28:39
    this sunrise movement is and they are a
  • 28:43
    that you have a 990 they are nonprofit
  • 28:46
    with very little money I'm talking you
  • 28:49
    know like $70,000 that just but this
  • 28:51
    just filed up this is brand-new as I did
  • 28:54
    some digging particularly to their
  • 28:56
    address 50 F Street Northwest Suite 701
  • 29:00
    DC hey you wouldn't be surprised to find
  • 29:03
    out that there's a number of climate
  • 29:05
    based organizations at that address and
  • 29:08
    the one in particular of interest is the
  • 29:12
    u.s. Climate Action Network and the way
  • 29:15
    I read it
  • 29:16
    although the paperwork is maybe not
  • 29:18
    officially filed properly the Climate
  • 29:20
    Action Network now they have a lot of
  • 29:22
    money they do about 12 million dollars a
  • 29:24
    year and it's been increasing with
  • 29:26
    several million each year over the past
  • 29:27
    five it appears that the sunrise sunrise
  • 29:30
    movement education fund has taken over
  • 29:33
    the u.s. Climate Action Network whose
  • 29:36
    initial funding came from a you guessed
  • 29:39
    it george surly open society institute
  • 29:43
    yes of course south coast of course
  • 29:46
    that's where the money comes from two
  • 29:47
    co-founders we heard from Virginie
  • 29:50
    prakash on the last last time we played
  • 29:53
    some clips when she was on The Young
  • 29:54
    Turks the kid who interests me the most
  • 29:57
    a very reminiscent of David Hogg from
  • 30:02
    the the parklands shooting the school is
  • 30:05
    another co-founder of the sunrise
  • 30:07
    movement and that's Jeremy Ornstein and
  • 30:10
    I think he's just about 18 or 19 he was
  • 30:14
    in
  • 30:15
    the halls when they were protesting
  • 30:16
    Pelosi I can't play the whole clip
  • 30:18
    because it's six minutes in the audio
  • 30:20
    isn't all that great but he goes into a
  • 30:22
    story that he tells off-the-cuff just I
  • 30:27
    mean just ad hoc rolls it out
  • 30:31
    fantastically done the kid is a real pro
  • 30:35
    the only problem is his story is
  • 30:37
    bullshit and you can tell it right from
  • 30:39
    the beginning so I'll play that part oh
  • 30:40
    by the way of course they had to release
  • 30:43
    this on YouTube with all kinds of
  • 30:45
    inspirational music Hungary they lost
  • 30:57
    almost everyone friends and family
  • 31:00
    killed in the Holocaust but they
  • 31:03
    survived the war and and moved to
  • 31:06
    Cincinnati Ohio to start a new life I
  • 31:09
    remember one day I was maybe 8 and my
  • 31:12
    brother was 10 and we were in my
  • 31:14
    grandparents apartment and I remember my
  • 31:16
    brother Nicholas secretly taking a copy
  • 31:19
    of my grandmother's Holocaust memoirs
  • 31:21
    and going into the bathroom to read it
  • 31:24
    and I remember my parents by the hip
  • 31:27
    and bringing them out and just go ahead
  • 31:30
    and say to both of us are you dumb
  • 31:33
    read this you're going to you're going
  • 31:35
    to have to wait a few years and I
  • 31:37
    remember thinking my brother shouldn't
  • 31:39
    have broken those rules and also
  • 31:41
    remember asking myself when will I be
  • 31:44
    old enough to read the stories and it
  • 31:47
    was just a few years later when my
  • 31:49
    parents let me follow my brother into
  • 31:51
    the temple auditorium where there was a
  • 31:53
    presentation on the Holocaust
  • 31:55
    I remember how mature I thought you know
  • 31:58
    my head was up my shoulders were back
  • 32:00
    and I was full of resolved because you
  • 32:02
    have to be full of resolve when you're
  • 32:04
    grappling with something so serious when
  • 32:07
    you're dealing with the past that's so
  • 32:09
    painful I mean I could just go on and on
  • 32:12
    with this kid I mean he's really here
  • 32:15
    any wraps it up he does see I mean I'll
  • 32:17
    just I'll just go to peace a little
  • 32:19
    further because he really he gets snaps
  • 32:21
    and everything from the kids in the
  • 32:22
    hallway no applause your snaps about
  • 32:25
    problems because we haven't toured
  • 32:28
    bullets and storms and fires because
  • 32:31
    we'd had to throw up one too many times
  • 32:34
    speaker Pelosi Democratic leadership we
  • 32:38
    are asking you to grow up
  • 32:39
    when will you kentuc woo Patrol applause
  • 32:44
    so I'm not so sure that his mom from
  • 32:48
    where was she from Hungary Hungary I'm
  • 32:53
    not so sure she wrote her notes in
  • 32:55
    English that his brother could find when
  • 32:57
    he was eight years old maybe she wrote
  • 33:00
    it in English
  • 33:01
    doubtful
  • 33:03
    sounds like a crock it could be it could
  • 33:06
    be that her mother wrote a book that's
  • 33:08
    also possible if that was grandma
  • 33:10
    grandma
  • 33:11
    yeah grandmother yeah it could be that
  • 33:12
    she wrote a book I don't know but this
  • 33:14
    kid is good
  • 33:15
    orange Dean is his name-o look at this
  • 33:17
    Anna orange Dean
  • 33:20
    professor at Merit of child psychology
  • 33:22
    uh okay and she has she she writes about
  • 33:26
    the Holocaust maybe that's her
  • 33:27
    maybe it's the book they're talking
  • 33:29
    about yeah well maybe she'd psychologize
  • 33:31
    her grandson but man
  • 33:34
    this could watch out for this kid if
  • 33:35
    they get ahold of him he'll he'll be a
  • 33:39
    bit one hinged of style I'm not just
  • 33:44
    like David Hogg he'll go he'll go and
  • 33:46
    hug where's less time you heard his name
  • 33:48
    that's what I'm saying he'll go he'll go
  • 33:50
    he go he burn out I'm just pointing it
  • 33:52
    out Trudeau in business back off I'm
  • 33:57
    still in the I'm still in uh in the
  • 33:59
    green new deal okay but before you leave
  • 34:02
    this kid
  • 34:03
    I don't understand how they're
  • 34:05
    associating the Holocaust with climate
  • 34:10
    change don't you think that's something
  • 34:11
    of a bit or no you know what no John no
  • 34:14
    because if you listen to the whole thing
  • 34:16
    and I played a little bit of it there
  • 34:17
    these kids are growing up believing that
  • 34:21
    the world is on fire it's on flood it's
  • 34:24
    on earthquake it's on everything they're
  • 34:26
    all gonna die their schools are being
  • 34:28
    shot up also climate change they're
  • 34:30
    traumatized they're traumatized yes
  • 34:34
    Keeble he equates this to the Holocaust
  • 34:37
    where kids were all these kids not us no
  • 34:40
    I know but this is what you get when the
  • 34:44
    child abuse is complete these kids are
  • 34:46
    very serious I don't know if they'll be
  • 34:48
    taken seriously by the Democrats who
  • 34:50
    would they seem to be wanting to partner
  • 34:52
    with but yeah this is this they really
  • 34:56
    believe that it's sad I find this
  • 34:58
    incredibly sad
  • 35:02
    now now Trudeau
  • 35:06
    he was interviewed CCBC and he was
  • 35:11
    interviewed about the carbon tax which
  • 35:13
    is just like in France although the
  • 35:16
    riots haven't started yet is quite an
  • 35:18
    issue with the provinces they want to
  • 35:19
    have none of it you've got four
  • 35:21
    provinces who have not complied with the
  • 35:23
    carbon tax now you're imposing it on
  • 35:25
    them is it harder to sell the carbon tax
  • 35:27
    when you have premiers saying that it is
  • 35:29
    the wrong thing to do I think I think
  • 35:32
    the fact that there are a bunch of
  • 35:35
    conservatives out there who have decided
  • 35:37
    that pollution should be free is not
  • 35:41
    that difficult to counter or put it you
  • 35:43
    gotta love the pollution meme don't you
  • 35:45
    it's now just just pollution the price
  • 35:48
    on pollution because we want less prices
  • 35:50
    and the fact that conservatives in this
  • 35:52
    country don't want to move forward on
  • 35:55
    either fighting climate change or
  • 35:56
    helping people ensure that we can get
  • 35:58
    the good jobs in the future is a
  • 36:01
    conversation I'm willing to have anytime
  • 36:03
    what we're doing with a climate action
  • 36:05
    incentive is making sure that that
  • 36:07
    family that will have extra costs
  • 36:10
    because of putting a price on pollution
  • 36:11
    will be more than equivalently
  • 36:14
    compensated for it and what is your hope
  • 36:16
    in terms of how those people change
  • 36:18
    their behavior and do you have a sense
  • 36:20
    of how quickly that would happen well I
  • 36:23
    think we know that when you put a price
  • 36:25
    on something you don't want like
  • 36:28
    pollution attacks well we're putting a
  • 36:29
    price on pollution right could you say
  • 36:31
    price on pollution one more time just so
  • 36:33
    we know it's pollution okay we're making
  • 36:36
    sure watch actually that the money is
  • 36:38
    going straight back to the jurisdiction
  • 36:40
    this isn't going into federal coffers
  • 36:42
    this isn't something we're gonna spend
  • 36:43
    on something else we're actually giving
  • 36:45
    that money back to citizens in the
  • 36:48
    province in which it was raised because
  • 36:50
    we know that if you make pollution free
  • 36:53
    people are gonna give out more of it we
  • 36:56
    say no if you want to pollute there
  • 36:58
    should be a cost associated I'm just
  • 37:00
    blown away by the fact that this
  • 37:02
    interviewer lets them get away with the
  • 37:04
    word pollute
  • 37:04
    chin
  • 37:06
    it's co2 it's carbon dioxide in the
  • 37:10
    atmosphere which has now just been
  • 37:12
    boiled down to pollution do you boil it
  • 37:15
    so if we got rid of all carbon dioxide
  • 37:17
    in the atmosphere that would be a plus
  • 37:18
    because we have no more pollution yeah
  • 37:20
    and no more no more trees and eventually
  • 37:22
    no more trees to be fed but it trying to
  • 37:27
    kill us but this is why people and
  • 37:29
    certainly young people are very nervous
  • 37:33
    and don't feel so good about the climate
  • 37:36
    change now of course she does ask the
  • 37:39
    question about France compared to what's
  • 37:41
    happening there compared to canned and a
  • 37:43
    via what could go wrong could anything
  • 37:45
    going wrong what do you think about your
  • 37:46
    buddy Mike Hall we saw a political I
  • 37:48
    think he's a political ally of yours and
  • 37:49
    men you and that call faced this very
  • 37:51
    question over the past couple of weeks
  • 37:53
    he put a surtax on fuel
  • 37:55
    riots in the street and he had to back
  • 37:57
    down like what lesson did you learn from
  • 38:00
    watching that well he didn't ensure that
  • 38:03
    the second part of it you put a price on
  • 38:05
    pollution because we want less pollution
  • 38:07
    but you also make sure that ordinary
  • 38:11
    Canadians are going to be able to be to
  • 38:14
    afford this this transition towards a
  • 38:17
    lower carbon economy it's the remix that
  • 38:19
    makes the rebate the support for
  • 38:21
    families and making sure that we are
  • 38:23
    supporting families through this
  • 38:25
    transition time is a fundamental
  • 38:28
    responsibility for every government and
  • 38:30
    yet the United Nations says that most of
  • 38:34
    the large emitting countries including
  • 38:35
    Canada are not on track to meet Paris
  • 38:38
    targets they are calling for more
  • 38:39
    urgency so how do you respond in the
  • 38:42
    face of that do you speed up what you're
  • 38:44
    doing do you change actually actually a
  • 38:46
    lot of countries around the world are
  • 38:47
    looking with a lot of interest at how
  • 38:50
    Canada is moving forward on putting a
  • 38:51
    price on pollution and supporting
  • 38:54
    ordinary citizens through this
  • 38:55
    transition it is a model that is going
  • 38:57
    to set us on the path to reach our Paris
  • 39:00
    targets we are going to be in the UN
  • 39:01
    says no the UN says it's not going to
  • 39:03
    happen we are going to be able to reach
  • 39:05
    those commitments how by by having
  • 39:08
    having a price on pollution people will
  • 39:12
    look for ways to innovate to pollute
  • 39:15
    less that will
  • 39:17
    effectively reduce our climate change
  • 39:19
    emissions and and and improve so you
  • 39:21
    will reach the Paris we're gonna we
  • 39:23
    reach our Paris our targets what could
  • 39:25
    possibly go wrong
  • 39:28
    Wow
  • 39:30
    we need more donations from the
  • 39:32
    Canadians yes
  • 39:37
    and is he just following up on that
  • 39:40
    Yellowjackets
  • 39:42
    before the shooting in Strasbourg which
  • 39:46
    is still a part of France there were all
  • 39:49
    kinds of reports about the police using
  • 39:53
    incapacitating liquid on the protesters
  • 39:57
    as a secret weapon they say where was
  • 40:01
    this well this is published in Mariana
  • 40:04
    in the French publication
  • 40:10
    Saturday in Paris police had a secret
  • 40:12
    weapon
  • 40:14
    and they only use that as last resort a
  • 40:17
    supply of incapacitating liquid water
  • 40:21
    cannons I don't know how would you do it
  • 40:25
    how would you how would you get it I
  • 40:26
    mean this like mace is an incapacitating
  • 40:28
    liquid so maybe that's what they're
  • 40:29
    talking about but you're following the
  • 40:33
    publication of article the Nationals on
  • 40:35
    Dawn Marie wish to specify the device of
  • 40:37
    which we reported existence - is it lik
  • 40:38
    oh it's a powder ah it's a powder
  • 40:42
    hmm we got to find that someone one of
  • 40:44
    our probably one of those like like a
  • 40:47
    tear gas problem yeah tear gas like
  • 40:50
    product not fun most like well my last
  • 40:54
    global warming thing is the Arctic
  • 40:55
    warming report which is on democracy now
  • 40:57
    scientists have issued a new warning on
  • 41:00
    Arctic warming a report released this
  • 41:03
    week finds the Arctic has been warmer
  • 41:05
    over the last five years and at any time
  • 41:08
    since 1900 year record-keeping began the
  • 41:13
    region is warming at twice the rate of
  • 41:15
    the rest of the planet
  • 41:18
    so you'd think that if you're gonna be
  • 41:22
    making all these prognostications about
  • 41:25
    the next few hundred years that you
  • 41:28
    would go back for the 1900 you think
  • 41:32
    there might be something there that she
  • 41:34
    wasn't mentioning is that what you're
  • 41:35
    saying yeah you think huh hmm yeah at
  • 41:42
    one point green land was Green Green now
  • 41:45
    that's why it's called green land but
  • 41:46
    well this is no that's not the way they
  • 41:48
    should play at the school no they've had
  • 41:51
    but the problem is of course underneath
  • 41:53
    all that snow there's evidence that it
  • 41:54
    was like a wooded you know area very
  • 41:58
    problematic the way they played it in
  • 42:00
    school when I was a kid was Leif
  • 42:03
    Eriksson is escaping you know as the
  • 42:05
    last of the Vikings trying to get out of
  • 42:08
    the doorway over that whole North Nordic
  • 42:12
    area because he was the hammer was
  • 42:15
    brought down on these guys because there
  • 42:17
    were bad actors and they were chasing
  • 42:19
    them down so they went to they they told
  • 42:22
    everybody
  • 42:24
    they're the ones who named it green land
  • 42:26
    and then Iceland was named because it
  • 42:28
    was actually kind of green and it would
  • 42:31
    to be this sucker really is that the way
  • 42:35
    is that the way it's taught the kind of
  • 42:37
    bulks crap that I was taught it was
  • 42:39
    sucker the dummies from the Nordic
  • 42:40
    countries they're chasing in Leif
  • 42:42
    Ericson because he's obviously not gonna
  • 42:43
    go to Iceland because it's ice there was
  • 42:47
    a Greek
  • 42:49
    misdirection misdirection early example
  • 42:52
    of misdirection that's great and so
  • 42:55
    those Vikings man so I'm thinking yeah
  • 42:59
    maybe I didn't know that that's pretty
  • 43:03
    good yeah that's very funny or did for
  • 43:05
    some reason it's that wood that stuck
  • 43:07
    with me along with the one in and it was
  • 43:10
    when you're a little kid if for any
  • 43:14
    little kid would do this when they first
  • 43:15
    look at the globe mm-hmm they will look
  • 43:18
    at South America and Africa and you look
  • 43:21
    at it you go hey those two pieces yes oh
  • 43:23
    you can't say that before the
  • 43:27
    International Geophysical Year where
  • 43:29
    they determine this thing called plate
  • 43:31
    tectonics
  • 43:32
    which removing these these areas apart
  • 43:34
    it was always no it's just a coincidence
  • 43:38
    don't even say something like that it
  • 43:40
    was a coincidence that they look like
  • 43:42
    they are hooked together so this is all
  • 43:45
    bull crap word perfed so we were
  • 43:47
    supposed to now believe the global
  • 43:49
    warming that reminds me when I when I
  • 43:53
    entered the Dutch schooling system I was
  • 43:55
    going to the International School of
  • 43:56
    Amsterdam for three years after he moved
  • 43:58
    there move there when I was seven and
  • 43:59
    just to give you the full context of the
  • 44:02
    story we had a week off from the ISA
  • 44:04
    International School of Amsterdam then
  • 44:06
    my parents sat me my sisters down Sunday
  • 44:09
    evening guess what you guys are gonna do
  • 44:11
    tomorrow we're like wow what are we
  • 44:12
    going to be going to Dutch school like
  • 44:14
    what and I actually rode really spoke
  • 44:17
    just a few words of Dutch so entered
  • 44:21
    Dutch school fifth grade and within I
  • 44:23
    think they're like two or three months
  • 44:25
    into this into the into the the school
  • 44:28
    year the teacher he said oh here's a
  • 44:32
    question that our Americans now this is
  • 44:34
    a time when Americans were not very
  • 44:35
    loved in in Europe Texas Instruments was
  • 44:38
    coming over and I walk on the street
  • 44:40
    they know who I was and the kids be like
  • 44:41
    you crazy American shit go fuck yourself
  • 44:44
    I mean that's what I would get as a 5th
  • 44:46
    grader and then the teacher says all
  • 44:48
    right here's one how many how many
  • 44:50
    states does the United States of America
  • 44:52
    have my hand goes up of course is at 50
  • 44:54
    states and haha it's 52 you forgot
  • 44:56
    Alaska and Hawaii
  • 44:57
    I said mm-hmm no it was 48 and then we
  • 45:02
    what no no you don't even know this and
  • 45:06
    he see just was berating me and I was
  • 45:11
    you know I was already messed up and
  • 45:13
    then I remember recalling the American
  • 45:15
    Embassy and recording it on you know one
  • 45:17
    of those little cassette recorders
  • 45:19
    taking it into school and even that was
  • 45:21
    a well she was referencing an old an old
  • 45:25
    Encyclopedia Brittanica I could not get
  • 45:28
    them to just admit that he was wrong
  • 45:32
    yeah there's elements of this in the
  • 45:34
    educational system and its really
  • 45:36
    pathetic
  • 45:40
    entire sundar Pichai testimonial watch
  • 45:44
    the whole thing cuz I only picked up a
  • 45:45
    few I watched it I have one clip I
  • 45:48
    watched some of it I have what I thought
  • 45:50
    was a good clip but you probably have
  • 45:52
    now let's let's play I got a couple
  • 45:53
    clips very short ones I thought this was
  • 45:57
    good because it played right into the
  • 45:58
    hundred thousand apparently not even
  • 46:01
    that much fifty thousand dollars that
  • 46:02
    was spent by the Russians on Facebook to
  • 46:04
    swing the election here's the here's the
  • 46:07
    amount that apparently Google picked up
  • 46:09
    this is Nadler who's the number one
  • 46:12
    Trump haters gonna who's already
  • 46:13
    discussed getting Trump in jibt getting
  • 46:16
    Trump putting Trump in jail although if
  • 46:20
    anybody read my essay in the last
  • 46:22
    newsletter just a death essay well know
  • 46:26
    that no one actually wants to put him in
  • 46:27
    jail that would ruin the whole idea of
  • 46:29
    the things yeah but listen to Nadler
  • 46:32
    grilling this guy and by the way a lot
  • 46:34
    of people are critic endemic Nadler as
  • 46:36
    being in the pocket of Google because he
  • 46:38
    gets so much money from alphabet now
  • 46:40
    according to media reports Google found
  • 46:42
    evidence that Russian agents spent
  • 46:43
    thousands of dollars to purchase ads on
  • 46:45
    its advertising platforms the span
  • 46:48
    multiple Google products is part of the
  • 46:50
    agents the Russian agents campaigned to
  • 46:52
    interfere in the election two years ago
  • 46:54
    additionally juniper Downs head of
  • 46:57
    global policy for YouTube testified in
  • 46:59
    July a YouTube had identified and shut
  • 47:01
    down multiple and shut down multiple
  • 47:04
    channels containing thousands of videos
  • 47:06
    associated with the Russian
  • 47:07
    misinformation campaign does Google now
  • 47:10
    know the full extent to which its online
  • 47:12
    platforms were exploited by Russian
  • 47:14
    actors in the election two years ago we
  • 47:16
    have you know we undertook a very
  • 47:19
    thorough investigation and in 2016 we we
  • 47:24
    now know that there were two main ad
  • 47:28
    accounts linked to Russia which which
  • 47:31
    you know advertised on Google for about
  • 47:34
    forty seven hundred dollars in
  • 47:35
    advertising we also found a hard limited
  • 47:38
    total of forty seven hundred dollars
  • 47:39
    that's right which was you know no
  • 47:43
    amount is okay here but you know but we
  • 47:46
    found limited activity improper activity
  • 47:48
    we have learned a lot from that and we
  • 47:51
    you know it dramatically increased the
  • 47:53
    production's we
  • 47:53
    have around our election offerings
  • 47:56
    leading up to the current elections we
  • 47:59
    did we again found limited activity both
  • 48:02
    from the internet research agency in
  • 48:04
    Russia as well as accounts linked to
  • 48:07
    Iran and while what specific steps have
  • 48:10
    you taken including during the recent
  • 48:12
    2018 elections to protect against
  • 48:14
    further interference by Russia or other
  • 48:17
    hostile foreign powers we have
  • 48:18
    undertaken a significant review of how
  • 48:21
    ads are bought you know we look for the
  • 48:24
    origin of these accounts we share and
  • 48:27
    collaborate with law enforcement other
  • 48:29
    technology companies and we essentially
  • 48:33
    are investing a lot of effort and
  • 48:34
    oversight in this area looking ahead to
  • 48:37
    the next Congress I assume we can have
  • 48:39
    your assurances that Google will work
  • 48:41
    with this committee as we examine the
  • 48:43
    issue of how to better secure our
  • 48:45
    elections from future foreign
  • 48:46
    interference congressmen protecting our
  • 48:49
    elections is foundational to our
  • 48:51
    democracy and you you have my full
  • 48:52
    commitment that we do that yeah blah
  • 48:54
    blah let me tell you deal but I watched
  • 48:59
    this whole thing and it is so
  • 49:05
    embarrassing
  • 49:07
    and even the people who had a bit of a
  • 49:09
    clue really display their ignorance and
  • 49:11
    just how idiotic lis stupid they are if
  • 49:15
    not because they really don't understand
  • 49:17
    how the series of tubes works because
  • 49:21
    they don't have the wherewithal to ask
  • 49:24
    someone to make sure they don't look
  • 49:26
    like blithering morons which they do you
  • 49:31
    can't take it seriously I mean there's
  • 49:33
    stuff in there like well if I'm here and
  • 49:34
    I'm over there does Google know you know
  • 49:37
    like would you unless you believe it so
  • 49:41
    wide open for Pichardo go well I don't
  • 49:43
    know it depends on your phone depends on
  • 49:44
    what apps you have installed I mean
  • 49:46
    there was just not as nothing really
  • 49:48
    substantive well there's one small thing
  • 49:49
    that came out that may be important but
  • 49:51
    it started off with pontificating is
  • 49:54
    Lofgren you know well let's talk about
  • 49:58
    search and how search works I think it's
  • 50:00
    important to talk about how search works
  • 50:05
    right now if you google the word idiot
  • 50:11
    under images a picture of Donald Trump
  • 50:18
    that happen how does search work so that
  • 50:22
    that would occur we provide search tree
  • 50:25
    for anytime you type in a keyword we as
  • 50:30
    Google we have crawled we've gone out
  • 50:33
    and crawled and stored Billy copies of
  • 50:36
    billions of their pages
  • 50:38
    he says stored but almost sounds like
  • 50:39
    stalled and I just wanted to like
  • 50:41
    believe that's what he's thinking in his
  • 50:42
    mind i stoled all that in our index and
  • 50:45
    we take the keyword and match it against
  • 50:49
    webpages and grant them based on over
  • 50:52
    200 signals things like relevance
  • 50:55
    freshness popularity how other people
  • 50:59
    are using it and based on that you know
  • 51:01
    at any given time we try to rank and
  • 51:04
    find the best results for that query and
  • 51:06
    then we evaluate them at external
  • 51:08
    Raiders to make sure that and they
  • 51:12
    evaluate it to objective guidelines and
  • 51:14
    and that's how we make sure the process
  • 51:16
    is
  • 51:17
    man sitting behind the curtain figuring
  • 51:20
    out what we're going to show the user
  • 51:23
    it's basically a compilation of what
  • 51:25
    users are generating and trying to sort
  • 51:28
    through that information I think she's
  • 51:31
    on the payroll too
  • 51:34
    yeah don't worry it's not some little
  • 51:36
    man who's putting you know he
  • 51:38
    conveniently omits the idea that the
  • 51:42
    search results are also tailored to you
  • 51:44
    as a as an individual and moreover your
  • 51:50
    location like I was talking about that
  • 51:52
    and I did the experiment yesterday we do
  • 51:55
    a search query and then you actually do
  • 51:57
    with two different browsers just to make
  • 51:59
    it kind of fair and then flip on the VPN
  • 52:02
    do the exact same search query from like
  • 52:04
    California and you get very different
  • 52:05
    results try gun control as an example
  • 52:07
    it's very different my favorite thing is
  • 52:11
    whatever VPN area you're coming from
  • 52:14
    changes like a woman in Vancouver who
  • 52:18
    wants to meet me
  • 52:19
    and she's also in Berkeley is hot yeah I
  • 52:26
    can't believe this what are the chances
  • 52:31
    onward
  • 52:33
    number two this I think is something
  • 52:35
    where Google can get caught up and I
  • 52:39
    this is good good latte which is named
  • 52:43
    good luck good lat you spell like a good
  • 52:45
    good latte it's easy like he's a good
  • 52:48
    latte - good latte boy things the
  • 52:50
    Chairman he has to ask a question about
  • 52:53
    the advertising rates for politicians
  • 52:54
    and what you have to know is that I
  • 52:56
    think it's law correct me if I'm wrong
  • 52:59
    when you when you buy television media
  • 53:02
    for a political campaign the seller I
  • 53:06
    believe is obligated to give you the
  • 53:09
    cheapest rate and the same cheap rate
  • 53:11
    that everybody else gets have you are
  • 53:14
    you familiar with this
  • 53:16
    I'm not familiar with it being law but
  • 53:18
    it would make sense could two competing
  • 53:20
    political candidates targeting the same
  • 53:22
    audience see different ad rates and if
  • 53:25
    yes could that disparity be substantial
  • 53:28
    there wouldn't be a difference based on
  • 53:30
    you know any political reasons unless
  • 53:33
    there are keywords which are of
  • 53:34
    particular interest in the market
  • 53:36
    determines that so it's it's essentially
  • 53:38
    a supply demand equilibrium it can lead
  • 53:40
    to difference in rates but it will vary
  • 53:43
    from time to time then those rates be
  • 53:45
    very substantial in difference
  • 53:47
    there could be occasions where yes there
  • 53:50
    could be difference in rates yeah I
  • 53:51
    haven't looked at the specifics of that
  • 53:53
    yet but it's decided by the system and
  • 53:55
    it's a process we have done for over 20
  • 53:57
    years and it let me assure you anything
  • 54:00
    to do with our Civic process we make
  • 54:02
    sure we do so in a non-partisan way and
  • 54:04
    it's really important for us yeah I
  • 54:05
    think I think he's gonna run into some
  • 54:07
    some headwinds there because they're all
  • 54:10
    gonna say well wait a minute how do you
  • 54:11
    determine the price for this campaign or
  • 54:13
    my campaign and there's these people are
  • 54:15
    so clueless in Congress because of
  • 54:18
    course it's very difficult to to get
  • 54:20
    that ad rate the same as television
  • 54:22
    because it's apples and oranges but I
  • 54:23
    think this is gonna make an issue about
  • 54:25
    that now China the question about China
  • 54:29
    was of course asked by our own Sheila
  • 54:32
    jackson-lee and as you know she's a
  • 54:37
    representative for Houston has a great
  • 54:41
    relationship with China is always
  • 54:43
    talking up China and oh yeah we've the
  • 54:45
    port and we love China goes to China
  • 54:47
    goes goes on special little little uh
  • 54:51
    trips to junkets make sure our bond of
  • 54:55
    friendship and cooperation with China is
  • 54:57
    strong she loves China so she's the one
  • 55:00
    to ask about China I am concerned that
  • 55:03
    you are now going back into China and
  • 55:05
    upholding the dragonfly procedures which
  • 55:10
    would help censor Chinese persons
  • 55:14
    seeking a lifeline of democracy and
  • 55:16
    freedom congressmen adult said right now
  • 55:19
    we have no plans to I liked how he said
  • 55:21
    congressman to everybody including the
  • 55:22
    Congress women I don't know if that was
  • 55:25
    on purpose but he kept doing it ah
  • 55:26
    Chrissy and freedom congressman had out
  • 55:29
    said
  • 55:29
    right now we have no plans to launch in
  • 55:31
    China we don't have a search product
  • 55:33
    there or our poor mission is to provide
  • 55:36
    users access to information and getting
  • 55:40
    access to information is an important
  • 55:41
    human right so we are always compelled
  • 55:43
    across the world to try hard to provide
  • 55:47
    that information I'm committed to being
  • 55:48
    fully transparent including with
  • 55:50
    policymakers to the extent we ever
  • 55:52
    develop plans to do that
  • 55:53
    no sounds like she asked the right
  • 55:56
    question he gave the right answer
  • 55:57
    nothing goes in formation is a human
  • 56:00
    right yes of course it's a human right
  • 56:02
    John which is how they get some
  • 56:05
    information right now what would you
  • 56:06
    like I can give it to you start working
  • 56:09
    I'm gonna make a list okay it's your
  • 56:11
    human right to do so
  • 56:14
    they did have one gotcha a human right
  • 56:16
    is not to want access to information by
  • 56:20
    human right according to him is this is
  • 56:23
    a la access Oh huge difference
  • 56:28
    you
  • 56:29
    see I think they have a they got him on
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    this this was a this was the only real
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    bias question which is what this was
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    really about this is all about bias no
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    one understood an algorithm no one and
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    three and a half hours of just pure
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    drivel yeah bad this Jim Jordan he had
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    the I guess kind of smoking gun to show
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    that Google through their own wording
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    which the char just denied and denied
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    and denied the had specifically done
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    some work to help out a political party
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    during the midterm elections here's the
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    clip and mr. pitch I and your opening
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    statement you said I lead this company
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    without political bias and work to
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    ensure that our products operate that
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    way
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    Ileana Murillo is Google's head of
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    multicultural marketing does miss
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    Murillo do good work
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    I'm not directly familiar with her work
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    but she's an employee of Google and you
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    know we're proud of her employees well
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    you praised her work the day after the
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    2016 election in a four-page email she
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    wrote about her work with the Latino
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    vote she said even sundar gave our
  • 57:35
    effort they shout out is she referring
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    to you there she was referring to my
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    communication around translation for a
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    different related effort okay well I'm
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    gonna look at two other sentences she
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    had that long email again recapping her
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    work in the 2016 election with the
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    Latino vote she said this we pushed to
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    get out the Latino vote with our
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    features a few lines down and her email
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    she qualified that sentence and she said
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    we pushed to get out the Latino vote
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    with our features in key states and she
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    specifically cites the states Florida
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    and Nevada near the end of her email in
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    a similar sentence she says we supported
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    partners like voto Latino to pay for
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    rides to the polls in key states with me
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    I want to kind of analyze those two
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    sentences we push to get out the Latino
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    vote with our features in key states we
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    supported partners like voto Latino to
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    pay for rides to the polls in key states
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    is a fair to say the we in both
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    sentences mister pachai refers to Google
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    congressman we we are very concerned
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    whenever there are allegations like that
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    we we are team Leslie that question I'm
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    asked is
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    fair to say that we in both sentences
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    refers to the company Google as Google
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    we wouldn't participate in any partisan
  • 58:50
    efforts around any Civic process so okay
  • 58:53
    I don't think so so this is so we pushed
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    and we supported partner like voted
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    Latino to paper Ides in pulse in key
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    states and we push to get out the Latino
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    vote during the 2016 election and how
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    were they getting that done they were
  • 59:08
    getting that done by according to miss
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    Morello your head of multicultural
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    marketing by altering your features are
  • 59:15
    configuring your features in such a way
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    and for paying for rides for people to
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    get to the polls not that any of that is
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    illegal mind you but it was odd that
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    Pajar just kept the night went on for
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    minutes no no no I've not no we would
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    never do anything by us like that we
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    wouldn't but to have the email saying
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    you did it
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    it's like just admit it what difference
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    does it make is not illegal
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    not but it is biased which is what they
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    tried which is what yeah and it just it
  • 59:45
    just went nowhere it really went nowhere
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    I've just won one last clip that kind of
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    moves into it an interesting story this
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    is about the content flagging we
  • 59:55
    discussed this I raised the case of the
  • 59:57
    Alliance defending freedom content being
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    removed after being reported by a
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    trusted flagger on YouTube the the
  • 1:00:03
    flagging organization where the sub was
  • 1:00:05
    the Southern Poverty Law Center which
  • 1:00:07
    has a kind of an infamous reputation for
  • 1:00:09
    being I would say radical left
  • 1:00:11
    organization that opposes conservative
  • 1:00:14
    viewpoints what criteria does Google use
  • 1:00:16
    when granting trusted flagger status to
  • 1:00:18
    third parties such as the SPLC you know
  • 1:00:23
    today we first want to clarify one thing
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    our trusted flaggers don't remove
  • 1:00:28
    content they can flag content for us to
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    review and we review flat content it's
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    mostly used by law enforcement many many
  • 1:00:38
    nonprofit agencies in in areas important
  • 1:00:41
    areas like child safety terrorism and so
  • 1:00:43
    on Southern Poverty Law Center is a
  • 1:00:45
    trusted flag where people can register
  • 1:00:47
    last we checked they've never flagged a
  • 1:00:50
    single video on our platform we have
  • 1:00:53
    reached out to a wide variety of
  • 1:00:54
    organizations including conservative
  • 1:00:56
    organizations we would be happy to take
  • 1:00:58
    your suggestions to add you know
  • 1:01:00
    organizations as trusted flaggers I
  • 1:01:02
    appreciate that we need a little
  • 1:01:03
    objectivity and the reviewers and out
  • 1:01:05
    you'll be jealous oh geez no we're yeah
  • 1:01:08
    but he actually that's like believing
  • 1:01:10
    that we're and this is the story I
  • 1:01:12
    wanted to get to big article in The
  • 1:01:15
    Guardian about Snopes Snopes
  • 1:01:19
    is very disappointed angry a journalist
  • 1:01:23
    working as fact checkers for Facebook in
  • 1:01:25
    this case have pushed to end a
  • 1:01:27
    controversial media partnership with a
  • 1:01:28
    social network saying the company has
  • 1:01:30
    ignored their concerns and failed to use
  • 1:01:32
    their expertise to combat misinformation
  • 1:01:35
    and this is Brooke Binkowski manager
  • 1:01:39
    former managing editor of Snopes
  • 1:01:41
    fact-checking site that has partnered
  • 1:01:43
    with Facebook for two years she says
  • 1:01:44
    they're not taking anything seriously
  • 1:01:46
    they're more interested in making
  • 1:01:47
    themselves look good and passing the
  • 1:01:49
    buck but they clearly don't care talking
  • 1:01:52
    about Facebook Facebook in this case but
  • 1:01:54
    that's the same if the same fact check
  • 1:01:57
    network the international fact check
  • 1:01:58
    network that includes that works for
  • 1:02:01
    Google and includes Snopes and then the
  • 1:02:03
    other side Daily Caller Foundation and
  • 1:02:05
    yeah and here's in black and white they
  • 1:02:08
    don't care they really don't give a crap
  • 1:02:10
    about what you're doing with your course
  • 1:02:12
    they don't yeah and all those people
  • 1:02:15
    should be living here where it's nice
  • 1:02:17
    and cheap for them
  • 1:02:18
    yeah well I think face bushes just moved
  • 1:02:21
    to Austin
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    no no no no no we keep it right where it
  • 1:02:23
    is but with that I would like to thank
  • 1:02:26
    you for your courage and say in the
  • 1:02:27
    morning to you John see the man who put
  • 1:02:30
    the scene SPLC Dvorak in the morning to
  • 1:02:35
    you mr. Adam Curry also in the morning
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    to all ships at sea what's on the ground
  • 1:02:39
    feet in the air subs in the water
  • 1:02:41
    they're all the names the nights out
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    there and in the morning to the troll
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    room hello trolls got your poles no
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    agenda stream comm is where they always
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    show up you can join them every Sunday
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    and Thursday morning when we do the show
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    live and we are always happy always
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    happy to have them here and covering our
  • 1:02:59
    ass or fact-checking it so it may need
  • 1:03:01
    to be and in the morning the caesium-137
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    brought us the artwork for Episode 1093
  • 1:03:07
    the title that was write to puberty and
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    this was a very nice image this was the
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    the the last puzzle piece that fits into
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    the huge puzzle with no agenda stamped
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    across it he was I don't know it was
  • 1:03:20
    something about it really really felt
  • 1:03:22
    good but this was a controversial pick
  • 1:03:26
    because our rigid this was not our
  • 1:03:27
    original pick
  • 1:03:30
    okay Mike Riley had the piece that we
  • 1:03:33
    wanted to use I'm going in to look now
  • 1:03:36
    which was the piece with OAC or AOC
  • 1:03:41
    whatever her name is
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    Oh with the moon shot yes the moon could
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    stop at the moon shot in this thing and
  • 1:03:46
    is that it's a take off from that guy's
  • 1:03:50
    name class yes the Hugo the Hugo movie
  • 1:03:52
    guy yeah the famous French movie maker
  • 1:03:57
    and so we picked that piece to begin
  • 1:04:00
    with and then I before we posted I we
  • 1:04:04
    had a we had all right we picked it I'd
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    put his name in the credits and
  • 1:04:06
    everything yeah I said wait a minute we
  • 1:04:09
    can use this piece we're such pussies
  • 1:04:12
    yeah well no we can't use the piece and
  • 1:04:17
    that the reason was it's because what
  • 1:04:19
    happens if somebody shoots this woman
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    she had the bullet with the the rocket
  • 1:04:27
    the rocket was in her did look like a
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    bullet was like a bullet and so then all
  • 1:04:35
    of a sudden were the bad guys and so we
  • 1:04:37
    pulled the piece and went with the other
  • 1:04:39
    piece which we liked a lot to Adam
  • 1:04:41
    actually like the the the jigsaw puzzle
  • 1:04:45
    piece more and I'm the one who thought
  • 1:04:47
    the other piece was better and he
  • 1:04:48
    finally came to my side on this and we
  • 1:04:51
    picked it and then I had that did I
  • 1:04:52
    awesome and the reason well the reason
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    why the reason why is the puzzle piece
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    you know you argued correctly is can be
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    used for anything anytime it's a it's a
  • 1:05:01
    perfect evergreen hey Ozzie we might be
  • 1:05:04
    able to use it but there was something
  • 1:05:06
    about the moon and it made sense for the
  • 1:05:08
    episode yes but it would but once we
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    determined that it was it was not
  • 1:05:15
    acceptable because of the bullet we went
  • 1:05:18
    in was the end of it it won't be an
  • 1:05:20
    evergreen either but you can go there
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    look go to the website and check it out
  • 1:05:23
    that's no agenda art generator calm and
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    we thank cesium-137 and all of our
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    artists you were always diligently
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    uploading sometimes just hilarious stuff
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    and it's on view for everyone's on
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    display no agenda are generated are calm
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    and you can also upload your and that's
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    how a lot of people participate in our
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    value Network and thank you
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    caesium-137
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    yes now you had a newsletter fail
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    brought this year was a disaster for
  • 1:05:51
    some of these newsletters this one I got
  • 1:05:54
    a lot of notes from people saying that
  • 1:05:56
    oh you know I never got the thing I
  • 1:05:58
    think I read a couple of these from
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    Alexander says
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    [Music]
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    for your information never made my
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    mailbox and that's a first most of all
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    the previous problematic newsletters did
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    arrive so he didn't get it a number of
  • 1:06:16
    people didn't get it I he says John I
  • 1:06:20
    haven't received my newsletter earlier
  • 1:06:22
    today I've only received this mail this
  • 1:06:23
    mailed on from that though in other
  • 1:06:25
    words the text messages right in the
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    last few weeks I know you've been
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    commenting on the newsletters not
  • 1:06:34
    getting through I have received all of
  • 1:06:36
    those but have not received this one hmm
  • 1:06:38
    some people finally dug around they find
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    it in their promotions boxes and it was
  • 1:06:42
    nice it was an essay which you and I
  • 1:06:44
    always laugh about so whenever you write
  • 1:06:47
    down and you know sit down and write an
  • 1:06:49
    essay it usually results in much lower
  • 1:06:52
    donations yes the donations go way down
  • 1:06:55
    and you know are you now considering
  • 1:06:59
    still doing them because you kind of
  • 1:07:00
    said in your follow-up that it appears
  • 1:07:02
    we can't do them anymore what is the
  • 1:07:04
    point of it you know everybody hates
  • 1:07:06
    them well here's here's what I wanted to
  • 1:07:08
    jump in on you said it appears the
  • 1:07:10
    audience that would be our producers
  • 1:07:12
    will receive the newsletter to actually
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    just want animated gifs
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    they love the animated you think that
  • 1:07:19
    this is the way we should go I mean is
  • 1:07:21
    is their animated I mean I know the
  • 1:07:24
    answer to this because we always take
  • 1:07:26
    the low the low road when we can the low
  • 1:07:28
    road always but it's always worse it's
  • 1:07:31
    just so sad when people say you're gonna
  • 1:07:33
    give us a newsletter with some content
  • 1:07:35
    and you do it and just uh yes this is
  • 1:07:38
    what the problem is because people
  • 1:07:40
    really just want animated gifs that's
  • 1:07:42
    the bottom line and we're being honest
  • 1:07:44
    with you this is what you respond to
  • 1:07:48
    but this apparently were some delivery
  • 1:07:50
    issues I don't know why there doesn't
  • 1:07:51
    make any sense but I've been thinking
  • 1:07:53
    there's been some changes in the owl
  • 1:07:55
    goes to the promotions by somebody
  • 1:07:58
    suggested that if you don't open the
  • 1:08:00
    newsletter for a buy he says he noticed
  • 1:08:02
    this no then Google makes a decision for
  • 1:08:05
    you yeah he says that he used to always
  • 1:08:07
    open the newsletter open open open then
  • 1:08:09
    for some reason or he'd skipped three of
  • 1:08:11
    them right and it says and ever since
  • 1:08:13
    after that has been showing up in
  • 1:08:14
    promotions no matter what he does which
  • 1:08:16
    is the thing that bothers me the most is
  • 1:08:18
    the comment that everybody makes is no
  • 1:08:21
    matter what I do
  • 1:08:22
    it shows whatever might listed I bitch
  • 1:08:25
    about it being in the wrong box and all
  • 1:08:27
    the rest of it because I do what I do
  • 1:08:28
    just discard the promotions box to just
  • 1:08:32
    eliminate its existing somehow within
  • 1:08:34
    just a B's semi-technical
  • 1:08:36
    I believe somewhere in Google's system
  • 1:08:39
    when you say okay I want to whitelist
  • 1:08:41
    this it's probably I mean these things
  • 1:08:44
    do come out from weird reply twos and
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    MailChimp does certain things that may
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    not be the same every time in the
  • 1:08:51
    headers
  • 1:08:54
    I think MailChimp is partly to blame for
  • 1:08:56
    some of this I don't know that they're
  • 1:08:58
    doing enough I mean I bitched about this
  • 1:09:00
    a few weeks ago similar situation and I
  • 1:09:04
    got a note from MailChimp and they've
  • 1:09:06
    said this bullcrap and did there's no
  • 1:09:09
    thinking what do you say hey shut up
  • 1:09:10
    Dvorak or you want to be de platformed
  • 1:09:12
    yeah I'm not worried about that but it's
  • 1:09:15
    just the
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    it's just a date I wonder how much of
  • 1:09:20
    the system itself because you know the
  • 1:09:22
    people who looked into in MailChimp
  • 1:09:23
    comes in with some very weird headers
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    and they and all the this is a problem I
  • 1:09:30
    don't know how Google can rationalize
  • 1:09:32
    this but every link in a newsletter like
  • 1:09:35
    this actually goes through MailChimp oh
  • 1:09:39
    so when I link to the PayPal account
  • 1:09:42
    it's actually going through mail fast
  • 1:09:45
    know that and so it goes to MailChimp
  • 1:09:49
    and then gets forwarded to the PayPal so
  • 1:09:51
    mail chip can do a count
  • 1:09:55
    not you I'm gonna write a little giblet
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    about yeah I'm I don't think it's
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    MailChimp I mean this is ultimately it's
  • 1:10:02
    Google I mean I get all the news letters
  • 1:10:03
    all the time of course I wrote my own
  • 1:10:05
    email server don't use Google yeah so
  • 1:10:08
    it's clearly Google making decisions
  • 1:10:09
    portal heaven there should be you know
  • 1:10:11
    if it's the news that somebody subscribe
  • 1:10:14
    to which is the case with this mailing
  • 1:10:16
    list they should all go through they
  • 1:10:19
    shouldn't end up in promotions or in
  • 1:10:21
    spam or anything else if Google is doing
  • 1:10:23
    its job I think they do a very piss-poor
  • 1:10:26
    job with their email no they're doing
  • 1:10:28
    exactly what they want to do if you
  • 1:10:30
    don't want to be this promotions tab is
  • 1:10:33
    also very interesting you get into the
  • 1:10:35
    promotions tab you can also pay to be at
  • 1:10:37
    the top of the promotions tab
  • 1:10:38
    it's an advertiser spot now
  • 1:10:43
    energy male oh yeah
  • 1:10:45
    why people in teams beyond Gmail is
  • 1:10:48
    beyond me anyway let's thank some people
  • 1:10:50
    who kindly we can no doubt saying hey
  • 1:10:53
    you know we got we had a fail and so
  • 1:10:56
    everybody you know a lot of people that
  • 1:10:57
    normally wait for that they seem to wait
  • 1:11:01
    for the second no hey man where's my
  • 1:11:03
    gifs oh shit contribute which I find is
  • 1:11:10
    B you know it's fine I like it because
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    at least it shows that we our people are
  • 1:11:14
    still following this show and they like
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    to show and so they will contribute so
  • 1:11:17
    we have a large list of executive
  • 1:11:20
    producers today
  • 1:11:20
    up from one well so it worked your evil
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    plan work before I could work actually
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    actually is up from probably two because