Cover for No Agenda Show 1094: Justice 4 Hillary
December 13th, 2018 • 2h 53m

1094: Justice 4 Hillary

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Adam curry
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Jhansi Devore award-winning
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assassination episode is no agenda
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[Music]
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you got the traffic
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traffic's about to get really good here
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in Austin oh that's good news
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oh it's very bad news it's the traffic
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in Austin is already horrible and today
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we hear this announcement Apple now
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saying it's going to invest a billion
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dollars in new campus in Austin Texas
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the campus will be 133 acres and will
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accommodate 5,000 employees at first
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with capacity for up to 15,000 in total
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and be located less than a mile from
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Apple's existing Texas facilities and
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will make it the largest private
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employer in Austin Apple says will house
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a range of jobs and engineering R&D
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operations finance sales and customer
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support the news Manning its operations
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and having more than a thousand jobs in
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Seattle San Diego and Culver City
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California as well so it isn't an HQ to
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Amazon style but it's a big investment
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in Austin Austin's already there their
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biggest for an outpost outside of
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headquarters I think there's something
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like 6,000 people there already remember
1:37
last last year and the I mean Austin's
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just two robust city when it comes to
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technology this it's pretty remarkable
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what's going on there remarkable what's
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going on here it's nothing to do with
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technology
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this is this this is the people part of
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the business
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get real CNBC this is the this is hey
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payroll accountants content management
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no technology it's all the sales support
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I know I know people who work here
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now it's like this the store supports of
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the support for the stores themselves
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who have a lot of issues all of this
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this is people town it's not exciting
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stay away
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dick did they put him in South Carolina
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or some place where people are pleasant
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yeah but the problem is we have such a
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sweet voice we have we have such a
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fantastic tax structure in the state of
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Texas see this is why you put the people
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here that's what it's about
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yeah they don't to pay personal income
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tax in the state level it's great for
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you this one just like 10 plus percent
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10 to 13 percent at the tax mmm-hmm
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yeah so would you rather live if you're
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making a lot of money at Apple
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well Northwest Austin apparently you
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said the Travers didn't get better
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that's what I thought you said oh no no
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no he'll just get worse it's already a
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mess there's gotta be the worst thing is
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gonna become worse than anywhere yeah
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yeah the 405 will be looking looked at
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as how this is cool yeah I don't think
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they're in any danger of that happening
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but dream on California boy it still
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it's not good now and I'm not I'm not
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very happy with this development we're
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moving out of downtown that's for sure
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where are you going well either we move
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really nearby south of you know south of
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the the river or maybe we'll go really
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south maybe we'll go to Dripping Springs
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or somewhere just way out of the way
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Dripping Springs is nice that's where
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all the rock stars live man Dripping
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Springs yes uh-huh Wow yeah I know it's
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great yeah go down and move down there
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with Tim yeah maybe we'll see yeah now
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where does that cut off because of all
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the old rock stars now yeah hey
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everybody
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Adam Kerr here in Dripping Springs yeah
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bug over well Dripping Springs
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there was a lot of things going on in
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the world although you wouldn't know it
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if you watch the American television
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news no we're pretty preoccupied with
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what Cohen Cohen he's going to jail for
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three years and Trump's going to jail
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every was going to jail yeah Trump's
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going to jail gonna be locked up lock
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him up
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yeah exactly again just completely
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unwatchable on what the only thing that
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was watchable was the and I liked it a
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lot was the little show that Trump
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Pelosi and Schumer put on in the Oval
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Office entertaining everybody who went
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to it thought it was entertaining and
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they said I've never seen anything like
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it well there you have it I think that's
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the way it should always go
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everything should be new know everything
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should be out in the open and yeah and
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what was you what a douche bag I mean
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Schumer sitting there rocking like he's
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got a spur jurors and he barely looks at
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the president once in a while and then
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he says stupid stuff that he thinks is
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funny
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what's in Veloz leap repeats herself and
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she's stammering and she's upset about
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everything for no good reason and he's
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goading the two of them what I found
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interesting was how at least on Twitter
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which is kind of the only place I can
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still go and find some outrage it was
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you know the the classic two sides
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everyone saw it in their own favorable
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light the Trump the Trump fans he wiped
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the floor with him
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the Pelosi Schumer fans oh you hit a
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brick walls she showed him it was
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completely open to interpretation which
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i think is it's just one of the
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interesting things of our time
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yeah yeah no you know you knows it's
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become quite interesting I agree
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I thought the media's of course this was
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a like a I think the full the full
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episode of the reality show lasted about
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10 minutes what I found interesting is
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how was cut up and what pieces were
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pulled out and the one that I'll have
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that I'll play for you is what the BBC
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did with it oh that's big nice contrast
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with what CBS did weather which is what
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I have you want to do BBC first or CBS
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let's think what would be their probably
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versus Trump more let's go with CBS
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which is the long clip okay because they
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really got such a kick out of it and by
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the way that I don't not sure I even
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have the intro on this clip but it's
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it's funny it's pretty funny and then we
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have the easy one the wall that'll be
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the one that will be the easiest of all
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that was president Trump's attempt at a
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joke in his first face-to-face meeting
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with Democratic leaders after the
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midterm election and with a partial
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government shutdown 10 days away a
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shutdown is not worth anything and that
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you should not have its own shutdown you
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have Democrats came to the White House
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hoping that was kind of glossed over but
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she she I thought that was very good
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what she did she kind of basically
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pulled a trump on him and said oh wait
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we can't afford a trump shutdown and he
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caught Italy called her out on it yeah
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but it was it was very it was inaudible
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and CBS just glossed right over it here
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I should mention this I think as he was
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calling her out on that he was thinking
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to himself hey just call it the
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truncation right which is kind of where
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he ended up yeah by saying I'll be proud
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Oh interesting
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ten days away you shut down is not worth
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anything and that you should not have a
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constructive you have Democrats came to
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the White House hoping to brand-ne
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shutdown with the president's name the
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toughest issue future funding of mr.
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Trump's proposed wall on the southern
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border if the president wants five
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billion dollars for construction of the
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wall
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passed now while Republicans still have
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control of the house while the Democrats
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are only offering 1.3 billion to fund
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broader border security measures and you
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have border security without the wall
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what it means to have border security we
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need border security the wall is a part
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of border security you can't have very
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good border security without the wall
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now the political fencing intensified
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and the experts say you can do border
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security without a wall which is
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wasteful and doesn't solve the problem
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it totally solves the problem Democrats
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arrived fresh off a 40 seat midterm
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gained in the house we've gained in the
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Senate excuse me did we win the Senate
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when the president brags that he won
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North Dakota in Indiana he's in real
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trouble you know as as now having
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extended family in the great state of
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Indiana being a half Hoosier I'm
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incredibly insulted by this
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yeah it was insulting Schumer's comment
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although I asked Tina and she's like I
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don't give a crap she identifies more
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with the Chicago but it may just seems
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it's like a dumb thing to and it
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politically doesn't matter but other
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states who are kind of flyover I think
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that might have been a - point for
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Schumer when the president brags that he
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won North Dakota and Indiana he's in
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real trouble well I did we did win
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Dakota in a unique white house the
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legislative clash was in a class by
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itself and we're entering into a of this
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kind of an of discussion in the public
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no a new cold transparency at one point
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the president tried to speak for the
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likely Speaker of the House to be you
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know Nancy's in a situation where it's
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not easy for her to talk right now and I
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understand that please don't
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characterize the strength that I bring
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for this meeting as a leader of the
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House Democrats the back and forth
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landed it appears where both sides
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wanted it a televised political standoff
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20 times y'all have called for I will
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shut down the government if I don't get
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my wolf
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none of us have said no so you've said
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you want to put that on set I'll take it
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okay good you know what I'll say yes if
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we don't get what we want I will shut
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down the go up there now and I am proud
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and I'll be disagree I am proud to shut
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down the government for border security
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judge I'm not gonna blame you for it
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leader Pelosi vying to be the next house
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speaker told Democrats in a private
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meeting the encounter here at the White
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House with the president quote goes to
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show you you get into a tinkle contest
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with a skunk
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you get tinkle all over you as for the
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president's continues pushed to the wall
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Pelosi said and again I quote it's like
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a manhood thing for him as if manhood
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could ever be associated with him
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is really interesting because this was a
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quote that came from an unnamed source
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and they're kind of reporting it is it
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had really happened yeah do they even
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say the source of one of them and just
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go back no speaker told Democrats in a
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private meeting the encounter here at
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the White House with the president quote
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yeah because I saw the reporting on it
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it was just because I was like oh is
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there a clip of this and this is what I
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need to clip now there's no clip I bet
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it was just something that someone said
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she said goes to show you you get into a
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tinkle contest with a skunk oh I'm not
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saying she didn't it's just the
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reporting that bothers me that's all
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just that little display or whatever it
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worth while over you as for the
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president's continued push for the wall
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Pelosi said and again I quote it's like
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a manhood thing for him as if manhood
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could ever be associated with him for
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his part the president said born
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security in wall funding is common sense
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and a political winner
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even if wrapped around a government
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shutdown yep okay just remarkable
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major spirits right in the middle of all
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of it today oh my goodness just
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remarkable I got that I saw of that for
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the end of the show because I think it
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would reflect on the show that's a good
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one just remarkable yeah I also have one
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that I'll get to later that's definitely
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a contender for sure now let's go to the
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BBC significantly shorter but you kind
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of get their slant on it pleasure and of
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course we'll bring you more on that
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breaking news from Strasbourg when we
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have it now to American politics where
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there was quite a scene at the White
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House today Democratic leaders Nancy
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Pelosi and Chuck Schumer went to the
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Oval Office to talk funding for
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president Trump's border wall with
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Mexico mr. drummer threatened to shut
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down the government if he doesn't get
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the money and here's what happened as
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the cameras were rolling Nancy I do and
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we need border security I got Nancy we
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need border security we'll called 20
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times to shut down the government you
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say I want to shut down the government
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we don't when the president brags that
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he won North Dakota and Indiana he's
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real trouble please don't characterize
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the strength that I bring to this
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perhaps in South consequences mr.
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president I am proud to shut down the
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government for border security chatter
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well now well you heard Chuck Schumer's
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say their elections have consequences
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and after that scene is anything to go
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by
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once Democrats control the house in
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January it will be a bumpy ride
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so mr. Trump's hunt for a new chief of
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staff isn't so there you go that was
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kind of lame well they what they just a
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whole bunch of contacts so they put a
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whole bunch of Pelosi and Schumer you
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know clips edited those all together and
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then and then had him say oh I'm gonna
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do the shutdown so thanks BBC and of
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course they should look in their own
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music wish well here's the question I
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have for that meeting
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with Pelosi and Schumer there
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I mean these guys are a couple I didn't
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go out with the tinkling and the guys
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not a man and all the rest of it but why
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doesn't one of the two of them is so
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simple say why should we be funding the
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wall you said Mexico is gonna pay for it
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somebody should have just said that I
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agree what he did I agree
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but you said what we gonna do we're
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gonna build a wall who's gonna pay for
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it Mexico I've heard you say that I've
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heard it in there in your in your
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meetings I've meetups why not why I
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thought Mexico is gonna pay for why are
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we paying a nickel
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ya know because that because that's
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clearly not the issue I mean what he's
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talking about what I've heard is five
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billion dollars which is a rounding
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error in the stupid crap we do look at
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the farm bill did you see the farm bill
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is just past eight hundred and sixty
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billion yeah eight hundred and sixty
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billion dollar farm bill not a peep just
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for subsidies yeah subsidies all kinds
15:31
of interesting stuff now you can be part
15:34
of an ongoing farm operation if you're a
15:36
second cousin is all weird stuff in
15:39
there so you know you get compensated as
15:41
the commodities compensation it's huge
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not a peep anywhere not a peep but I
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have a solution to this because the way
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I saw it I saw two sides wanting border
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security one wanting a wall and one
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being okay with a fence I mean that's
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kind of where it's at right is if now
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we're down to the some would say
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semantics but others would say it's a
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different structure and the wall is very
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scary and you know shows that we are
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afraid of brown people or whatever I've
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heard all week long and the other one
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it's kind of friendly you know it's just
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a fence so here's a simple solution
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build a fence
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electrify the fence yeah I was thinking
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the same thing
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that's the way to go Electrify it
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Electrify adventure did yeah or you know
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tasered basically a Taser fence not one
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of those chopped your hands off it's
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just an idea I mean it's not much worse
16:41
than that razor wire that I see I mean
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that's that's pretty nasty except now
16:46
you would have a different issue trying
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to get through it anyway it's the whole
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thing is stupid I don't think it's gonna
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work I don't think he'll get it done
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I don't think there will be any funding
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of any wall before the end of the year
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well he cast a possibility deciding the
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whole thing slide until next year and
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then just using a chunk of the military
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budget
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he gave an extra like 16 billion I think
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is I think he's I think does this that's
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actually slush fund take it out of the a
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said that if were they do it through you
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or through the military yeah sorry the
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Army Corps of Engineers I think is the
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way to do that then yeah probably yeah
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under the build the wall okay well I
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don't add the whole thing is shit that's
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a good exercise I like what happened in
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British Parliament though as the brexit
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deal than the the arguments just make
17:33
everyone nuts over there one member of
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parliament took it a bit far sending in
17:38
questions BBC OS is the hash tag and
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here's one coming in from a BBC news
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channel viewers saying what happened
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with the mace in Parliament well I can
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help you out with that one a Labour MP
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Lloyd Russell morale has been ordered
17:49
out at the House of Commons for the rest
17:51
of the day after he removed the mace you
17:54
can see him holding it there in protest
17:56
of the government's decision to delay
17:58
the vote now the mace is a ceremonial
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Club which represents royal authority if
18:03
it's removed the Commons cannot debate
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or passed laws after mr. Russell moil
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took the mace he walked towards the main
18:11
doors in the Commons chamber he was
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stopped by commas officials who took the
18:14
mace off him and returned it as you can
18:17
see to its place in front of the
18:19
Speaker's chair but he was politely
18:21
asked to vacate for the rest of the day
18:24
what the mace the sacred Illuminati
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stick is the actual audio was much
18:32
funnier of the Speaker of Parliament he
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was he's like oh no what's going on here
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[Applause]
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[Applause]
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that
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[Applause]
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I'm grateful to thee I just think the
19:07
whole thing is funny we should have more
19:09
of that here that's why I liked with
19:11
Trump and Pelosi you know that that mace
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had to be there yeah oh yeah it has
19:17
power that so of course the you know
19:18
church and state and everything and the
19:21
Qui it's all separate but the way it
19:24
works is the you know the the royal
19:25
family the Queen is represented by the
19:27
mace and so that is her seal of approval
19:30
that you can that you can discuss you
19:33
can't even discuss without the mace
19:35
present but when they said but when the
19:38
queen is in Parliament then the mace is
19:40
removed so there can be no governing so
19:42
she can't interfere with anything
19:44
something like that it's interesting
19:47
these old these old traditions Justin
19:50
damn stick I thought it'd be a lot
19:52
heavier to guy picked it up like was
19:54
just balsa wood maybe it's a bird made
19:59
of balsa wood this is a replica
20:03
man all right I got one more popular
20:06
item than we can drill in this stuff I'm
20:08
actually a little surprised did you I
20:10
mean you know that I'm a big sports fan
20:14
and an obviously Steph Curry my brother
20:18
from another mother went out on a limb
20:20
and said he did not believe that we'd
20:22
landed on the moon which makes two
20:24
curries out of thousands I think maybe
20:28
all the curries pretty much all the
20:30
curries are now safe I'm not saying this
20:32
and then I think NASA is at all you
20:36
don't believe that come over here we'll
20:37
show you our moon rocks and but I I got
20:41
the biggest kick out of how far this was
20:44
taken by my buddies over there at the
20:47
PTI podcast which I listened to all the
20:49
time you ever listen to PTI the guys at
20:52
PTI do you listen to PTI I'm like Petey
20:59
I've always liked it it stands for
21:01
pardon the interruption there's nothing
21:02
you probably don't know yes I do I see
21:05
it right here on the album art it okay I
21:08
clipped this myself I'll have you know
21:10
this is okay I'm not gonna go into this
21:15
just to go ahead and play your little
21:16
game ridiculing the sports fans out
21:19
there who are more serious about things
21:20
than you are I'm guessing yesterday we
21:23
mentioned that Steph Curry did not
21:25
believe that men had ever landed on the
21:27
moon I said I thought this hat by the
21:28
way if this is the club you want to hang
21:30
out with with the rest of the sports
21:31
fans I don't need to belong to be a
21:33
light-hearted omage to Kyrie Irving
21:36
saying the earth was flat but it appears
21:38
curry actually believes this he said so
21:40
on the winging it podcast hosted by
21:42
fellow NBA arse Vince Carter and Kent
21:45
Bazemore will bond is questioning the
21:46
moon landing a bad look for Steph Curry
21:48
it's a bad look for everybody it is not
21:49
just staff curry I almost say this let
21:51
me start by saying if this is a joke if
21:52
they're just trolling people because I
21:54
believe Kyrie is doing that I feel
21:55
certain that he's doing that and I think
21:57
Stephanie would never let me just say
21:58
the three people who have taken up this
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cause in the last 48 hours Marc Spears
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of this network in this company Steph
22:05
Curry and Jalen Rose these people are my
22:07
friends I know them well
22:08
well I with them their discussions all
22:10
the time I know their intellects don't
22:12
do this don't come out and say we saw
22:14
these pictures that kind of grainy
22:16
they're black and white have
22:17
before I was born because does that mean
22:19
you don't believe in slavery does that
22:20
mean in the Revolutionary War there's
22:23
not have because it didn't happen don't
22:25
do that or you guys are too smart don't
22:28
do you're supposed to be are you saying
22:30
jail Argos jail another city jail today
22:32
this is my guys if you are as real as
22:35
you say if you are as technologically
22:37
savvy as you appear be don't do this
22:39
this is a very saying I don't believe in
22:41
history mister hell with history cuz it
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didn't happen
22:44
while I was looking at my cell phone
22:47
watch a very small step to becoming a
22:49
Holocaust denier say this and I'm gonna
22:54
say this racist don't believe in slavery
23:01
Holocaust denier this is fantastic
23:05
what's wrong with these sports people
23:06
that's pretty standard sports talk
23:09
here's the I so I pulled don't do this
23:12
but that was kind of nice too
23:15
it's negative though
23:17
oh I'm sorry my it's positive oh okay
23:21
right we'll end the show on a high note
23:25
yeah yes we always do you got it you got
23:29
it all right
23:31
I think the see you want to start
23:35
somewhere specifically
23:37
now let's go to climate change if you
23:40
want to okay we'll take it right into
23:42
the to the young kids with the green New
23:44
Deal hit me what you got well let's
23:46
start off first of all there's this the
23:48
rage in the climate circles who is the
23:51
climate girl a little fifteen-year-old
23:54
who got involved with climate change
23:56
when she was nine because she's so
23:58
knowledgeable about it and so then of
24:01
course all these Amy Goodman everybody's
24:03
picked up on this woman-girl
24:07
I'm not familiar with this is this this
24:10
is a meme that I've missed it dude this
24:13
is well if you were the climate if you
24:15
were if you knew anything about climate
24:17
change and you were a big believer I
24:19
would know let's go to intro the Greta
24:24
the climate change girl with a climate
24:27
activists who says politicians here are
24:29
not doing enough to turn back the clock
24:31
and prevent catastrophic climate change
24:33
fifteen-year-old Greta soonduk she has
24:36
made international headlines since
24:38
launching a school strike against
24:40
climate change in her home country of
24:42
Sweden in September she sat on the steps
24:45
of the Parliament in Stockholm every
24:47
school day for three weeks leading up to
24:50
the Swedish elections to demand that
24:52
politicians take more radical action to
24:55
stop global warming after the election
24:57
she went back to school four days a week
24:59
but every Friday
25:00
Yetta continues to sit outside the
25:03
Parliament building in protest her
25:05
actions have inspired thousands of
25:07
students across the globe to do the same
25:09
good after teen berg has Asperger's
25:12
syndrome she has focused with laser
25:14
intensity on climate change since she
25:17
was nine years old she brought her
25:19
message directly to world leaders here
25:21
in Katowice at the UN climate summit
25:22
last week this is Greta addressing UN
25:26
Secretary General Antonio Guterres
25:29
I think this is a mistake though I think
25:32
they're making a mistake with her they
25:34
need to get the people who are just
25:36
about a voting age they're the ones that
25:38
are most effective
25:39
this is tugging on heartstrings I don't
25:41
think does it anymore
25:45
I think this whole thing is a joke but
25:48
I'm only gonna play a piece of her
25:51
little speech but she goes on and on and
25:54
on and on and I Kris are very the thing
25:56
about somebody that's 15 and is erudite
25:59
which she seems to be is that you have
26:03
to let her talk so they let her talk for
26:05
I don't know days seem to be a problem
26:10
yes I agree I have similar issues here
26:13
you go instead I will ask the people
26:14
around the world to realize that our
26:17
political leaders have failed us because
26:19
we are facing an existential threat hold
26:21
on a second she's 15
26:23
yeah no no she's and she's a midget
26:25
she's a little person this is impossible
26:27
this is not a fifteen-year-old
26:29
and there's no time to continue down
26:31
this road of madness rich countries like
26:34
Sweden need to start reducing emissions
26:37
by at least 15 percent every year to
26:41
stay below a two degree warming target
26:43
you would think the media and every one
26:45
of our leaders will be talking about
26:47
nothing else but they never even mention
26:49
it
26:50
notice how do anyone ever mentioned that
26:52
we are in the midst of the sixth mass
26:54
extinction with up to 200 species going
26:57
extinct every single child abuse that's
27:03
involved but she's got every single meal
27:05
every metric every every little thing
27:08
she's got in there of course yeah oh
27:11
okay
27:12
then I'll play you now you're so right
27:16
about these kids that they go on and on
27:18
and on and on and I've been tracking the
27:20
sunrise movement now and this is the
27:23
group that protested again at Nancy
27:26
Pelosi's office yeah up on the hill
27:29
there are photos from that protest in
27:32
the last newsletter that was actually
27:34
the next day that was the protest in her
27:36
in California they were in Washington DC
27:38
the day before and they lined the halls
27:41
and they were getting arrested and then
27:42
they did the same thing with her office
27:44
and in Sanford's San Francisco yeah
27:47
where's Pelosi was she the target she's
27:49
like on their side no she's not see the
27:51
thing is she created the first select
27:54
committee for the green new deal in 2007
27:57
in anticipation of Van Jones and Barack
28:00
Obama who then
28:01
couldn't get it off the ground mainly
28:02
because Van Jones got kicked out as a
28:04
9/11 truther which he won't admit to
28:07
anymore and so that kind of fell by the
28:09
wayside but it also did not have any
28:11
power to draft legislation that's why
28:14
they're saying this is different and of
28:16
course I'm seeing the signs I'm seeing
28:18
professional signs oh yeah this can't
28:20
come heist this can't come they're very
28:22
nice
28:24
they and their logo is very good yeah
28:27
that upside down kind of cats I don't
28:31
know it's asleep it feels like mind
28:34
control when you look at like I'm going
28:35
into the logo now so I looked into who
28:39
this sunrise movement is and they are a
28:43
that you have a 990 they are nonprofit
28:46
with very little money I'm talking you
28:49
know like $70,000 that just but this
28:51
just filed up this is brand-new as I did
28:54
some digging particularly to their
28:56
address 50 F Street Northwest Suite 701
29:00
DC hey you wouldn't be surprised to find
29:03
out that there's a number of climate
29:05
based organizations at that address and
29:08
the one in particular of interest is the
29:12
u.s. Climate Action Network and the way
29:15
I read it
29:16
although the paperwork is maybe not
29:18
officially filed properly the Climate
29:20
Action Network now they have a lot of
29:22
money they do about 12 million dollars a
29:24
year and it's been increasing with
29:26
several million each year over the past
29:27
five it appears that the sunrise sunrise
29:30
movement education fund has taken over
29:33
the u.s. Climate Action Network whose
29:36
initial funding came from a you guessed
29:39
it george surly open society institute
29:43
yes of course south coast of course
29:46
that's where the money comes from two
29:47
co-founders we heard from Virginie
29:50
prakash on the last last time we played
29:53
some clips when she was on The Young
29:54
Turks the kid who interests me the most
29:57
a very reminiscent of David Hogg from
30:02
the the parklands shooting the school is
30:05
another co-founder of the sunrise
30:07
movement and that's Jeremy Ornstein and
30:10
I think he's just about 18 or 19 he was
30:14
in
30:15
the halls when they were protesting
30:16
Pelosi I can't play the whole clip
30:18
because it's six minutes in the audio
30:20
isn't all that great but he goes into a
30:22
story that he tells off-the-cuff just I
30:27
mean just ad hoc rolls it out
30:31
fantastically done the kid is a real pro
30:35
the only problem is his story is
30:37
bullshit and you can tell it right from
30:39
the beginning so I'll play that part oh
30:40
by the way of course they had to release
30:43
this on YouTube with all kinds of
30:45
inspirational music Hungary they lost
30:57
almost everyone friends and family
31:00
killed in the Holocaust but they
31:03
survived the war and and moved to
31:06
Cincinnati Ohio to start a new life I
31:09
remember one day I was maybe 8 and my
31:12
brother was 10 and we were in my
31:14
grandparents apartment and I remember my
31:16
brother Nicholas secretly taking a copy
31:19
of my grandmother's Holocaust memoirs
31:21
and going into the bathroom to read it
31:24
and I remember my parents by the hip
31:27
and bringing them out and just go ahead
31:30
and say to both of us are you dumb
31:33
read this you're going to you're going
31:35
to have to wait a few years and I
31:37
remember thinking my brother shouldn't
31:39
have broken those rules and also
31:41
remember asking myself when will I be
31:44
old enough to read the stories and it
31:47
was just a few years later when my
31:49
parents let me follow my brother into
31:51
the temple auditorium where there was a
31:53
presentation on the Holocaust
31:55
I remember how mature I thought you know
31:58
my head was up my shoulders were back
32:00
and I was full of resolved because you
32:02
have to be full of resolve when you're
32:04
grappling with something so serious when
32:07
you're dealing with the past that's so
32:09
painful I mean I could just go on and on
32:12
with this kid I mean he's really here
32:15
any wraps it up he does see I mean I'll
32:17
just I'll just go to peace a little
32:19
further because he really he gets snaps
32:21
and everything from the kids in the
32:22
hallway no applause your snaps about
32:25
problems because we haven't toured
32:28
bullets and storms and fires because
32:31
we'd had to throw up one too many times
32:34
speaker Pelosi Democratic leadership we
32:38
are asking you to grow up
32:39
when will you kentuc woo Patrol applause
32:44
so I'm not so sure that his mom from
32:48
where was she from Hungary Hungary I'm
32:53
not so sure she wrote her notes in
32:55
English that his brother could find when
32:57
he was eight years old maybe she wrote
33:00
it in English
33:01
doubtful
33:03
sounds like a crock it could be it could
33:06
be that her mother wrote a book that's
33:08
also possible if that was grandma
33:10
grandma
33:11
yeah grandmother yeah it could be that
33:12
she wrote a book I don't know but this
33:14
kid is good
33:15
orange Dean is his name-o look at this
33:17
Anna orange Dean
33:20
professor at Merit of child psychology
33:22
uh okay and she has she she writes about
33:26
the Holocaust maybe that's her
33:27
maybe it's the book they're talking
33:29
about yeah well maybe she'd psychologize
33:31
her grandson but man
33:34
this could watch out for this kid if
33:35
they get ahold of him he'll he'll be a
33:39
bit one hinged of style I'm not just
33:44
like David Hogg he'll go he'll go and
33:46
hug where's less time you heard his name
33:48
that's what I'm saying he'll go he'll go
33:50
he go he burn out I'm just pointing it
33:52
out Trudeau in business back off I'm
33:57
still in the I'm still in uh in the
33:59
green new deal okay but before you leave
34:02
this kid
34:03
I don't understand how they're
34:05
associating the Holocaust with climate
34:10
change don't you think that's something
34:11
of a bit or no you know what no John no
34:14
because if you listen to the whole thing
34:16
and I played a little bit of it there
34:17
these kids are growing up believing that
34:21
the world is on fire it's on flood it's
34:24
on earthquake it's on everything they're
34:26
all gonna die their schools are being
34:28
shot up also climate change they're
34:30
traumatized they're traumatized yes
34:34
Keeble he equates this to the Holocaust
34:37
where kids were all these kids not us no
34:40
I know but this is what you get when the
34:44
child abuse is complete these kids are
34:46
very serious I don't know if they'll be
34:48
taken seriously by the Democrats who
34:50
would they seem to be wanting to partner
34:52
with but yeah this is this they really
34:56
believe that it's sad I find this
34:58
incredibly sad
35:02
now now Trudeau
35:06
he was interviewed CCBC and he was
35:11
interviewed about the carbon tax which
35:13
is just like in France although the
35:16
riots haven't started yet is quite an
35:18
issue with the provinces they want to
35:19
have none of it you've got four
35:21
provinces who have not complied with the
35:23
carbon tax now you're imposing it on
35:25
them is it harder to sell the carbon tax
35:27
when you have premiers saying that it is
35:29
the wrong thing to do I think I think
35:32
the fact that there are a bunch of
35:35
conservatives out there who have decided
35:37
that pollution should be free is not
35:41
that difficult to counter or put it you
35:43
gotta love the pollution meme don't you
35:45
it's now just just pollution the price
35:48
on pollution because we want less prices
35:50
and the fact that conservatives in this
35:52
country don't want to move forward on
35:55
either fighting climate change or
35:56
helping people ensure that we can get
35:58
the good jobs in the future is a
36:01
conversation I'm willing to have anytime
36:03
what we're doing with a climate action
36:05
incentive is making sure that that
36:07
family that will have extra costs
36:10
because of putting a price on pollution
36:11
will be more than equivalently
36:14
compensated for it and what is your hope
36:16
in terms of how those people change
36:18
their behavior and do you have a sense
36:20
of how quickly that would happen well I
36:23
think we know that when you put a price
36:25
on something you don't want like
36:28
pollution attacks well we're putting a
36:29
price on pollution right could you say
36:31
price on pollution one more time just so
36:33
we know it's pollution okay we're making
36:36
sure watch actually that the money is
36:38
going straight back to the jurisdiction
36:40
this isn't going into federal coffers
36:42
this isn't something we're gonna spend
36:43
on something else we're actually giving
36:45
that money back to citizens in the
36:48
province in which it was raised because
36:50
we know that if you make pollution free
36:53
people are gonna give out more of it we
36:56
say no if you want to pollute there
36:58
should be a cost associated I'm just
37:00
blown away by the fact that this
37:02
interviewer lets them get away with the
37:04
word pollute
37:04
chin
37:06
it's co2 it's carbon dioxide in the
37:10
atmosphere which has now just been
37:12
boiled down to pollution do you boil it
37:15
so if we got rid of all carbon dioxide
37:17
in the atmosphere that would be a plus
37:18
because we have no more pollution yeah
37:20
and no more no more trees and eventually
37:22
no more trees to be fed but it trying to
37:27
kill us but this is why people and
37:29
certainly young people are very nervous
37:33
and don't feel so good about the climate
37:36
change now of course she does ask the
37:39
question about France compared to what's
37:41
happening there compared to canned and a
37:43
via what could go wrong could anything
37:45
going wrong what do you think about your
37:46
buddy Mike Hall we saw a political I
37:48
think he's a political ally of yours and
37:49
men you and that call faced this very
37:51
question over the past couple of weeks
37:53
he put a surtax on fuel
37:55
riots in the street and he had to back
37:57
down like what lesson did you learn from
38:00
watching that well he didn't ensure that
38:03
the second part of it you put a price on
38:05
pollution because we want less pollution
38:07
but you also make sure that ordinary
38:11
Canadians are going to be able to be to
38:14
afford this this transition towards a
38:17
lower carbon economy it's the remix that
38:19
makes the rebate the support for
38:21
families and making sure that we are
38:23
supporting families through this
38:25
transition time is a fundamental
38:28
responsibility for every government and
38:30
yet the United Nations says that most of
38:34
the large emitting countries including
38:35
Canada are not on track to meet Paris
38:38
targets they are calling for more
38:39
urgency so how do you respond in the
38:42
face of that do you speed up what you're
38:44
doing do you change actually actually a
38:46
lot of countries around the world are
38:47
looking with a lot of interest at how
38:50
Canada is moving forward on putting a
38:51
price on pollution and supporting
38:54
ordinary citizens through this
38:55
transition it is a model that is going
38:57
to set us on the path to reach our Paris
39:00
targets we are going to be in the UN
39:01
says no the UN says it's not going to
39:03
happen we are going to be able to reach
39:05
those commitments how by by having
39:08
having a price on pollution people will
39:12
look for ways to innovate to pollute
39:15
less that will
39:17
effectively reduce our climate change
39:19
emissions and and and improve so you
39:21
will reach the Paris we're gonna we
39:23
reach our Paris our targets what could
39:25
possibly go wrong
39:28
Wow
39:30
we need more donations from the
39:32
Canadians yes
39:37
and is he just following up on that
39:40
Yellowjackets
39:42
before the shooting in Strasbourg which
39:46
is still a part of France there were all
39:49
kinds of reports about the police using
39:53
incapacitating liquid on the protesters
39:57
as a secret weapon they say where was
40:01
this well this is published in Mariana
40:04
in the French publication
40:10
Saturday in Paris police had a secret
40:12
weapon
40:14
and they only use that as last resort a
40:17
supply of incapacitating liquid water
40:21
cannons I don't know how would you do it
40:25
how would you how would you get it I
40:26
mean this like mace is an incapacitating
40:28
liquid so maybe that's what they're
40:29
talking about but you're following the
40:33
publication of article the Nationals on
40:35
Dawn Marie wish to specify the device of
40:37
which we reported existence - is it lik
40:38
oh it's a powder ah it's a powder
40:42
hmm we got to find that someone one of
40:44
our probably one of those like like a
40:47
tear gas problem yeah tear gas like
40:50
product not fun most like well my last
40:54
global warming thing is the Arctic
40:55
warming report which is on democracy now
40:57
scientists have issued a new warning on
41:00
Arctic warming a report released this
41:03
week finds the Arctic has been warmer
41:05
over the last five years and at any time
41:08
since 1900 year record-keeping began the
41:13
region is warming at twice the rate of
41:15
the rest of the planet
41:18
so you'd think that if you're gonna be
41:22
making all these prognostications about
41:25
the next few hundred years that you
41:28
would go back for the 1900 you think
41:32
there might be something there that she
41:34
wasn't mentioning is that what you're
41:35
saying yeah you think huh hmm yeah at
41:42
one point green land was Green Green now
41:45
that's why it's called green land but
41:46
well this is no that's not the way they
41:48
should play at the school no they've had
41:51
but the problem is of course underneath
41:53
all that snow there's evidence that it
41:54
was like a wooded you know area very
41:58
problematic the way they played it in
42:00
school when I was a kid was Leif
42:03
Eriksson is escaping you know as the
42:05
last of the Vikings trying to get out of
42:08
the doorway over that whole North Nordic
42:12
area because he was the hammer was
42:15
brought down on these guys because there
42:17
were bad actors and they were chasing
42:19
them down so they went to they they told
42:22
everybody
42:24
they're the ones who named it green land
42:26
and then Iceland was named because it
42:28
was actually kind of green and it would
42:31
to be this sucker really is that the way
42:35
is that the way it's taught the kind of
42:37
bulks crap that I was taught it was
42:39
sucker the dummies from the Nordic
42:40
countries they're chasing in Leif
42:42
Ericson because he's obviously not gonna
42:43
go to Iceland because it's ice there was
42:47
a Greek
42:49
misdirection misdirection early example
42:52
of misdirection that's great and so
42:55
those Vikings man so I'm thinking yeah
42:59
maybe I didn't know that that's pretty
43:03
good yeah that's very funny or did for
43:05
some reason it's that wood that stuck
43:07
with me along with the one in and it was
43:10
when you're a little kid if for any
43:14
little kid would do this when they first
43:15
look at the globe mm-hmm they will look
43:18
at South America and Africa and you look
43:21
at it you go hey those two pieces yes oh
43:23
you can't say that before the
43:27
International Geophysical Year where
43:29
they determine this thing called plate
43:31
tectonics
43:32
which removing these these areas apart
43:34
it was always no it's just a coincidence
43:38
don't even say something like that it
43:40
was a coincidence that they look like
43:42
they are hooked together so this is all
43:45
bull crap word perfed so we were
43:47
supposed to now believe the global
43:49
warming that reminds me when I when I
43:53
entered the Dutch schooling system I was
43:55
going to the International School of
43:56
Amsterdam for three years after he moved
43:58
there move there when I was seven and
43:59
just to give you the full context of the
44:02
story we had a week off from the ISA
44:04
International School of Amsterdam then
44:06
my parents sat me my sisters down Sunday
44:09
evening guess what you guys are gonna do
44:11
tomorrow we're like wow what are we
44:12
going to be going to Dutch school like
44:14
what and I actually rode really spoke
44:17
just a few words of Dutch so entered
44:21
Dutch school fifth grade and within I
44:23
think they're like two or three months
44:25
into this into the into the the school
44:28
year the teacher he said oh here's a
44:32
question that our Americans now this is
44:34
a time when Americans were not very
44:35
loved in in Europe Texas Instruments was
44:38
coming over and I walk on the street
44:40
they know who I was and the kids be like
44:41
you crazy American shit go fuck yourself
44:44
I mean that's what I would get as a 5th
44:46
grader and then the teacher says all
44:48
right here's one how many how many
44:50
states does the United States of America
44:52
have my hand goes up of course is at 50
44:54
states and haha it's 52 you forgot
44:56
Alaska and Hawaii
44:57
I said mm-hmm no it was 48 and then we
45:02
what no no you don't even know this and
45:06
he see just was berating me and I was
45:11
you know I was already messed up and
45:13
then I remember recalling the American
45:15
Embassy and recording it on you know one
45:17
of those little cassette recorders
45:19
taking it into school and even that was
45:21
a well she was referencing an old an old
45:25
Encyclopedia Brittanica I could not get
45:28
them to just admit that he was wrong
45:32
yeah there's elements of this in the
45:34
educational system and its really
45:36
pathetic
45:40
entire sundar Pichai testimonial watch
45:44
the whole thing cuz I only picked up a
45:45
few I watched it I have one clip I
45:48
watched some of it I have what I thought
45:50
was a good clip but you probably have
45:52
now let's let's play I got a couple
45:53
clips very short ones I thought this was
45:57
good because it played right into the
45:58
hundred thousand apparently not even
46:01
that much fifty thousand dollars that
46:02
was spent by the Russians on Facebook to
46:04
swing the election here's the here's the
46:07
amount that apparently Google picked up
46:09
this is Nadler who's the number one
46:12
Trump haters gonna who's already
46:13
discussed getting Trump in jibt getting
46:16
Trump putting Trump in jail although if
46:20
anybody read my essay in the last
46:22
newsletter just a death essay well know
46:26
that no one actually wants to put him in
46:27
jail that would ruin the whole idea of
46:29
the things yeah but listen to Nadler
46:32
grilling this guy and by the way a lot
46:34
of people are critic endemic Nadler as
46:36
being in the pocket of Google because he
46:38
gets so much money from alphabet now
46:40
according to media reports Google found
46:42
evidence that Russian agents spent
46:43
thousands of dollars to purchase ads on
46:45
its advertising platforms the span
46:48
multiple Google products is part of the
46:50
agents the Russian agents campaigned to
46:52
interfere in the election two years ago
46:54
additionally juniper Downs head of
46:57
global policy for YouTube testified in
46:59
July a YouTube had identified and shut
47:01
down multiple and shut down multiple
47:04
channels containing thousands of videos
47:06
associated with the Russian
47:07
misinformation campaign does Google now
47:10
know the full extent to which its online
47:12
platforms were exploited by Russian
47:14
actors in the election two years ago we
47:16
have you know we undertook a very
47:19
thorough investigation and in 2016 we we
47:24
now know that there were two main ad
47:28
accounts linked to Russia which which
47:31
you know advertised on Google for about
47:34
forty seven hundred dollars in
47:35
advertising we also found a hard limited
47:38
total of forty seven hundred dollars
47:39
that's right which was you know no
47:43
amount is okay here but you know but we
47:46
found limited activity improper activity
47:48
we have learned a lot from that and we
47:51
you know it dramatically increased the
47:53
production's we
47:53
have around our election offerings
47:56
leading up to the current elections we
47:59
did we again found limited activity both
48:02
from the internet research agency in
48:04
Russia as well as accounts linked to
48:07
Iran and while what specific steps have
48:10
you taken including during the recent
48:12
2018 elections to protect against
48:14
further interference by Russia or other
48:17
hostile foreign powers we have
48:18
undertaken a significant review of how
48:21
ads are bought you know we look for the
48:24
origin of these accounts we share and
48:27
collaborate with law enforcement other
48:29
technology companies and we essentially
48:33
are investing a lot of effort and
48:34
oversight in this area looking ahead to
48:37
the next Congress I assume we can have
48:39
your assurances that Google will work
48:41
with this committee as we examine the
48:43
issue of how to better secure our
48:45
elections from future foreign
48:46
interference congressmen protecting our
48:49
elections is foundational to our
48:51
democracy and you you have my full
48:52
commitment that we do that yeah blah
48:54
blah let me tell you deal but I watched
48:59
this whole thing and it is so
49:05
embarrassing
49:07
and even the people who had a bit of a
49:09
clue really display their ignorance and
49:11
just how idiotic lis stupid they are if
49:15
not because they really don't understand
49:17
how the series of tubes works because
49:21
they don't have the wherewithal to ask
49:24
someone to make sure they don't look
49:26
like blithering morons which they do you
49:31
can't take it seriously I mean there's
49:33
stuff in there like well if I'm here and
49:34
I'm over there does Google know you know
49:37
like would you unless you believe it so
49:41
wide open for Pichardo go well I don't
49:43
know it depends on your phone depends on
49:44
what apps you have installed I mean
49:46
there was just not as nothing really
49:48
substantive well there's one small thing
49:49
that came out that may be important but
49:51
it started off with pontificating is
49:54
Lofgren you know well let's talk about
49:58
search and how search works I think it's
50:00
important to talk about how search works
50:05
right now if you google the word idiot
50:11
under images a picture of Donald Trump
50:18
that happen how does search work so that
50:22
that would occur we provide search tree
50:25
for anytime you type in a keyword we as
50:30
Google we have crawled we've gone out
50:33
and crawled and stored Billy copies of
50:36
billions of their pages
50:38
he says stored but almost sounds like
50:39
stalled and I just wanted to like
50:41
believe that's what he's thinking in his
50:42
mind i stoled all that in our index and
50:45
we take the keyword and match it against
50:49
webpages and grant them based on over
50:52
200 signals things like relevance
50:55
freshness popularity how other people
50:59
are using it and based on that you know
51:01
at any given time we try to rank and
51:04
find the best results for that query and
51:06
then we evaluate them at external
51:08
Raiders to make sure that and they
51:12
evaluate it to objective guidelines and
51:14
and that's how we make sure the process
51:16
is
51:17
man sitting behind the curtain figuring
51:20
out what we're going to show the user
51:23
it's basically a compilation of what
51:25
users are generating and trying to sort
51:28
through that information I think she's
51:31
on the payroll too
51:34
yeah don't worry it's not some little
51:36
man who's putting you know he
51:38
conveniently omits the idea that the
51:42
search results are also tailored to you
51:44
as a as an individual and moreover your
51:50
location like I was talking about that
51:52
and I did the experiment yesterday we do
51:55
a search query and then you actually do
51:57
with two different browsers just to make
51:59
it kind of fair and then flip on the VPN
52:02
do the exact same search query from like
52:04
California and you get very different
52:05
results try gun control as an example
52:07
it's very different my favorite thing is
52:11
whatever VPN area you're coming from
52:14
changes like a woman in Vancouver who
52:18
wants to meet me
52:19
and she's also in Berkeley is hot yeah I
52:26
can't believe this what are the chances
52:31
onward
52:33
number two this I think is something
52:35
where Google can get caught up and I
52:39
this is good good latte which is named
52:43
good luck good lat you spell like a good
52:45
good latte it's easy like he's a good
52:48
latte - good latte boy things the
52:50
Chairman he has to ask a question about
52:53
the advertising rates for politicians
52:54
and what you have to know is that I
52:56
think it's law correct me if I'm wrong
52:59
when you when you buy television media
53:02
for a political campaign the seller I
53:06
believe is obligated to give you the
53:09
cheapest rate and the same cheap rate
53:11
that everybody else gets have you are
53:14
you familiar with this
53:16
I'm not familiar with it being law but
53:18
it would make sense could two competing
53:20
political candidates targeting the same
53:22
audience see different ad rates and if
53:25
yes could that disparity be substantial
53:28
there wouldn't be a difference based on
53:30
you know any political reasons unless
53:33
there are keywords which are of
53:34
particular interest in the market
53:36
determines that so it's it's essentially
53:38
a supply demand equilibrium it can lead
53:40
to difference in rates but it will vary
53:43
from time to time then those rates be
53:45
very substantial in difference
53:47
there could be occasions where yes there
53:50
could be difference in rates yeah I
53:51
haven't looked at the specifics of that
53:53
yet but it's decided by the system and
53:55
it's a process we have done for over 20
53:57
years and it let me assure you anything
54:00
to do with our Civic process we make
54:02
sure we do so in a non-partisan way and
54:04
it's really important for us yeah I
54:05
think I think he's gonna run into some
54:07
some headwinds there because they're all
54:10
gonna say well wait a minute how do you
54:11
determine the price for this campaign or
54:13
my campaign and there's these people are
54:15
so clueless in Congress because of
54:18
course it's very difficult to to get
54:20
that ad rate the same as television
54:22
because it's apples and oranges but I
54:23
think this is gonna make an issue about
54:25
that now China the question about China
54:29
was of course asked by our own Sheila
54:32
jackson-lee and as you know she's a
54:37
representative for Houston has a great
54:41
relationship with China is always
54:43
talking up China and oh yeah we've the
54:45
port and we love China goes to China
54:47
goes goes on special little little uh
54:51
trips to junkets make sure our bond of
54:55
friendship and cooperation with China is
54:57
strong she loves China so she's the one
55:00
to ask about China I am concerned that
55:03
you are now going back into China and
55:05
upholding the dragonfly procedures which
55:10
would help censor Chinese persons
55:14
seeking a lifeline of democracy and
55:16
freedom congressmen adult said right now
55:19
we have no plans to I liked how he said
55:21
congressman to everybody including the
55:22
Congress women I don't know if that was
55:25
on purpose but he kept doing it ah
55:26
Chrissy and freedom congressman had out
55:29
said
55:29
right now we have no plans to launch in
55:31
China we don't have a search product
55:33
there or our poor mission is to provide
55:36
users access to information and getting
55:40
access to information is an important
55:41
human right so we are always compelled
55:43
across the world to try hard to provide
55:47
that information I'm committed to being
55:48
fully transparent including with
55:50
policymakers to the extent we ever
55:52
develop plans to do that
55:53
no sounds like she asked the right
55:56
question he gave the right answer
55:57
nothing goes in formation is a human
56:00
right yes of course it's a human right
56:02
John which is how they get some
56:05
information right now what would you
56:06
like I can give it to you start working
56:09
I'm gonna make a list okay it's your
56:11
human right to do so
56:14
they did have one gotcha a human right
56:16
is not to want access to information by
56:20
human right according to him is this is
56:23
a la access Oh huge difference
56:28
you
56:29
see I think they have a they got him on
56:32
this this was a this was the only real
56:34
bias question which is what this was
56:36
really about this is all about bias no
56:38
one understood an algorithm no one and
56:40
three and a half hours of just pure
56:42
drivel yeah bad this Jim Jordan he had
56:46
the I guess kind of smoking gun to show
56:48
that Google through their own wording
56:51
which the char just denied and denied
56:54
and denied the had specifically done
56:57
some work to help out a political party
57:00
during the midterm elections here's the
57:02
clip and mr. pitch I and your opening
57:04
statement you said I lead this company
57:05
without political bias and work to
57:08
ensure that our products operate that
57:11
way
57:12
Ileana Murillo is Google's head of
57:15
multicultural marketing does miss
57:18
Murillo do good work
57:19
I'm not directly familiar with her work
57:21
but she's an employee of Google and you
57:24
know we're proud of her employees well
57:26
you praised her work the day after the
57:27
2016 election in a four-page email she
57:30
wrote about her work with the Latino
57:33
vote she said even sundar gave our
57:35
effort they shout out is she referring
57:37
to you there she was referring to my
57:39
communication around translation for a
57:42
different related effort okay well I'm
57:44
gonna look at two other sentences she
57:45
had that long email again recapping her
57:48
work in the 2016 election with the
57:50
Latino vote she said this we pushed to
57:53
get out the Latino vote with our
57:55
features a few lines down and her email
57:57
she qualified that sentence and she said
58:00
we pushed to get out the Latino vote
58:01
with our features in key states and she
58:05
specifically cites the states Florida
58:06
and Nevada near the end of her email in
58:09
a similar sentence she says we supported
58:11
partners like voto Latino to pay for
58:15
rides to the polls in key states with me
58:20
I want to kind of analyze those two
58:22
sentences we push to get out the Latino
58:23
vote with our features in key states we
58:25
supported partners like voto Latino to
58:28
pay for rides to the polls in key states
58:31
is a fair to say the we in both
58:32
sentences mister pachai refers to Google
58:35
congressman we we are very concerned
58:39
whenever there are allegations like that
58:40
we we are team Leslie that question I'm
58:43
asked is
58:43
fair to say that we in both sentences
58:45
refers to the company Google as Google
58:48
we wouldn't participate in any partisan
58:50
efforts around any Civic process so okay
58:53
I don't think so so this is so we pushed
58:56
and we supported partner like voted
58:58
Latino to paper Ides in pulse in key
59:00
states and we push to get out the Latino
59:02
vote during the 2016 election and how
59:07
were they getting that done they were
59:08
getting that done by according to miss
59:11
Morello your head of multicultural
59:12
marketing by altering your features are
59:15
configuring your features in such a way
59:17
and for paying for rides for people to
59:20
get to the polls not that any of that is
59:22
illegal mind you but it was odd that
59:25
Pajar just kept the night went on for
59:27
minutes no no no I've not no we would
59:29
never do anything by us like that we
59:31
wouldn't but to have the email saying
59:32
you did it
59:34
it's like just admit it what difference
59:36
does it make is not illegal
59:41
not but it is biased which is what they
59:43
tried which is what yeah and it just it
59:45
just went nowhere it really went nowhere
59:47
I've just won one last clip that kind of
59:50
moves into it an interesting story this
59:52
is about the content flagging we
59:55
discussed this I raised the case of the
59:57
Alliance defending freedom content being
59:59
removed after being reported by a
1:00:01
trusted flagger on YouTube the the
1:00:03
flagging organization where the sub was
1:00:05
the Southern Poverty Law Center which
1:00:07
has a kind of an infamous reputation for
1:00:09
being I would say radical left
1:00:11
organization that opposes conservative
1:00:14
viewpoints what criteria does Google use
1:00:16
when granting trusted flagger status to
1:00:18
third parties such as the SPLC you know
1:00:23
today we first want to clarify one thing
1:00:27
our trusted flaggers don't remove
1:00:28
content they can flag content for us to
1:00:31
review and we review flat content it's
1:00:34
mostly used by law enforcement many many
1:00:38
nonprofit agencies in in areas important
1:00:41
areas like child safety terrorism and so
1:00:43
on Southern Poverty Law Center is a
1:00:45
trusted flag where people can register
1:00:47
last we checked they've never flagged a
1:00:50
single video on our platform we have
1:00:53
reached out to a wide variety of
1:00:54
organizations including conservative
1:00:56
organizations we would be happy to take
1:00:58
your suggestions to add you know
1:01:00
organizations as trusted flaggers I
1:01:02
appreciate that we need a little
1:01:03
objectivity and the reviewers and out
1:01:05
you'll be jealous oh geez no we're yeah
1:01:08
but he actually that's like believing
1:01:10
that we're and this is the story I
1:01:12
wanted to get to big article in The
1:01:15
Guardian about Snopes Snopes
1:01:19
is very disappointed angry a journalist
1:01:23
working as fact checkers for Facebook in
1:01:25
this case have pushed to end a
1:01:27
controversial media partnership with a
1:01:28
social network saying the company has
1:01:30
ignored their concerns and failed to use
1:01:32
their expertise to combat misinformation
1:01:35
and this is Brooke Binkowski manager
1:01:39
former managing editor of Snopes
1:01:41
fact-checking site that has partnered
1:01:43
with Facebook for two years she says
1:01:44
they're not taking anything seriously
1:01:46
they're more interested in making
1:01:47
themselves look good and passing the
1:01:49
buck but they clearly don't care talking
1:01:52
about Facebook Facebook in this case but
1:01:54
that's the same if the same fact check
1:01:57
network the international fact check
1:01:58
network that includes that works for
1:02:01
Google and includes Snopes and then the
1:02:03
other side Daily Caller Foundation and
1:02:05
yeah and here's in black and white they
1:02:08
don't care they really don't give a crap
1:02:10
about what you're doing with your course
1:02:12
they don't yeah and all those people
1:02:15
should be living here where it's nice
1:02:17
and cheap for them
1:02:18
yeah well I think face bushes just moved
1:02:21
to Austin
1:02:21
no no no no no we keep it right where it
1:02:23
is but with that I would like to thank
1:02:26
you for your courage and say in the
1:02:27
morning to you John see the man who put
1:02:30
the scene SPLC Dvorak in the morning to
1:02:35
you mr. Adam Curry also in the morning
1:02:37
to all ships at sea what's on the ground
1:02:39
feet in the air subs in the water
1:02:41
they're all the names the nights out
1:02:42
there and in the morning to the troll
1:02:44
room hello trolls got your poles no
1:02:47
agenda stream comm is where they always
1:02:49
show up you can join them every Sunday
1:02:52
and Thursday morning when we do the show
1:02:53
live and we are always happy always
1:02:56
happy to have them here and covering our
1:02:59
ass or fact-checking it so it may need
1:03:01
to be and in the morning the caesium-137
1:03:04
brought us the artwork for Episode 1093
1:03:07
the title that was write to puberty and
1:03:09
this was a very nice image this was the
1:03:12
the the last puzzle piece that fits into
1:03:15
the huge puzzle with no agenda stamped
1:03:18
across it he was I don't know it was
1:03:20
something about it really really felt
1:03:22
good but this was a controversial pick
1:03:26
because our rigid this was not our
1:03:27
original pick
1:03:30
okay Mike Riley had the piece that we
1:03:33
wanted to use I'm going in to look now
1:03:36
which was the piece with OAC or AOC
1:03:41
whatever her name is
1:03:42
Oh with the moon shot yes the moon could
1:03:44
stop at the moon shot in this thing and
1:03:46
is that it's a take off from that guy's
1:03:50
name class yes the Hugo the Hugo movie
1:03:52
guy yeah the famous French movie maker
1:03:57
and so we picked that piece to begin
1:04:00
with and then I before we posted I we
1:04:04
had a we had all right we picked it I'd
1:04:05
put his name in the credits and
1:04:06
everything yeah I said wait a minute we
1:04:09
can use this piece we're such pussies
1:04:12
yeah well no we can't use the piece and
1:04:17
that the reason was it's because what
1:04:19
happens if somebody shoots this woman
1:04:24
she had the bullet with the the rocket
1:04:27
the rocket was in her did look like a
1:04:31
bullet was like a bullet and so then all
1:04:35
of a sudden were the bad guys and so we
1:04:37
pulled the piece and went with the other
1:04:39
piece which we liked a lot to Adam
1:04:41
actually like the the the jigsaw puzzle
1:04:45
piece more and I'm the one who thought
1:04:47
the other piece was better and he
1:04:48
finally came to my side on this and we
1:04:51
picked it and then I had that did I
1:04:52
awesome and the reason well the reason
1:04:54
why the reason why is the puzzle piece
1:04:56
you know you argued correctly is can be
1:04:59
used for anything anytime it's a it's a
1:05:01
perfect evergreen hey Ozzie we might be
1:05:04
able to use it but there was something
1:05:06
about the moon and it made sense for the
1:05:08
episode yes but it would but once we
1:05:12
determined that it was it was not
1:05:15
acceptable because of the bullet we went
1:05:18
in was the end of it it won't be an
1:05:20
evergreen either but you can go there
1:05:21
look go to the website and check it out
1:05:23
that's no agenda art generator calm and
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artists you were always diligently
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yes now you had a newsletter fail
1:05:48
brought this year was a disaster for
1:05:51
some of these newsletters this one I got
1:05:54
a lot of notes from people saying that
1:05:56
oh you know I never got the thing I
1:05:58
think I read a couple of these from
1:06:01
Alexander says
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1:06:06
for your information never made my
1:06:08
mailbox and that's a first most of all
1:06:10
the previous problematic newsletters did
1:06:13
arrive so he didn't get it a number of
1:06:16
people didn't get it I he says John I
1:06:20
haven't received my newsletter earlier
1:06:22
today I've only received this mail this
1:06:23
mailed on from that though in other
1:06:25
words the text messages right in the
1:06:31
last few weeks I know you've been
1:06:32
commenting on the newsletters not
1:06:34
getting through I have received all of
1:06:36
those but have not received this one hmm
1:06:38
some people finally dug around they find
1:06:41
it in their promotions boxes and it was
1:06:42
nice it was an essay which you and I
1:06:44
always laugh about so whenever you write
1:06:47
down and you know sit down and write an
1:06:49
essay it usually results in much lower
1:06:52
donations yes the donations go way down
1:06:55
and you know are you now considering
1:06:59
still doing them because you kind of
1:07:00
said in your follow-up that it appears
1:07:02
we can't do them anymore what is the
1:07:04
point of it you know everybody hates
1:07:06
them well here's here's what I wanted to
1:07:08
jump in on you said it appears the
1:07:10
audience that would be our producers
1:07:12
will receive the newsletter to actually
1:07:14
just want animated gifs
1:07:16
they love the animated you think that
1:07:19
this is the way we should go I mean is
1:07:21
is their animated I mean I know the
1:07:24
answer to this because we always take
1:07:26
the low the low road when we can the low
1:07:28
road always but it's always worse it's
1:07:31
just so sad when people say you're gonna
1:07:33
give us a newsletter with some content
1:07:35
and you do it and just uh yes this is
1:07:38
what the problem is because people
1:07:40
really just want animated gifs that's
1:07:42
the bottom line and we're being honest
1:07:44
with you this is what you respond to
1:07:48
but this apparently were some delivery
1:07:50
issues I don't know why there doesn't
1:07:51
make any sense but I've been thinking
1:07:53
there's been some changes in the owl
1:07:55
goes to the promotions by somebody
1:07:58
suggested that if you don't open the
1:08:00
newsletter for a buy he says he noticed
1:08:02
this no then Google makes a decision for
1:08:05
you yeah he says that he used to always
1:08:07
open the newsletter open open open then
1:08:09
for some reason or he'd skipped three of
1:08:11
them right and it says and ever since
1:08:13
after that has been showing up in
1:08:14
promotions no matter what he does which
1:08:16
is the thing that bothers me the most is
1:08:18
the comment that everybody makes is no
1:08:21
matter what I do
1:08:22
it shows whatever might listed I bitch
1:08:25
about it being in the wrong box and all
1:08:27
the rest of it because I do what I do
1:08:28
just discard the promotions box to just
1:08:32
eliminate its existing somehow within
1:08:34
just a B's semi-technical
1:08:36
I believe somewhere in Google's system
1:08:39
when you say okay I want to whitelist
1:08:41
this it's probably I mean these things
1:08:44
do come out from weird reply twos and
1:08:48
MailChimp does certain things that may
1:08:49
not be the same every time in the
1:08:51
headers
1:08:54
I think MailChimp is partly to blame for
1:08:56
some of this I don't know that they're
1:08:58
doing enough I mean I bitched about this
1:09:00
a few weeks ago similar situation and I
1:09:04
got a note from MailChimp and they've
1:09:06
said this bullcrap and did there's no
1:09:09
thinking what do you say hey shut up
1:09:10
Dvorak or you want to be de platformed
1:09:12
yeah I'm not worried about that but it's
1:09:15
just the
1:09:17
it's just a date I wonder how much of
1:09:20
the system itself because you know the
1:09:22
people who looked into in MailChimp
1:09:23
comes in with some very weird headers
1:09:26
and they and all the this is a problem I
1:09:30
don't know how Google can rationalize
1:09:32
this but every link in a newsletter like
1:09:35
this actually goes through MailChimp oh
1:09:39
so when I link to the PayPal account
1:09:42
it's actually going through mail fast
1:09:45
know that and so it goes to MailChimp
1:09:49
and then gets forwarded to the PayPal so
1:09:51
mail chip can do a count
1:09:55
not you I'm gonna write a little giblet
1:09:57
about yeah I'm I don't think it's
1:09:59
MailChimp I mean this is ultimately it's
1:10:02
Google I mean I get all the news letters
1:10:03
all the time of course I wrote my own
1:10:05
email server don't use Google yeah so
1:10:08
it's clearly Google making decisions
1:10:09
portal heaven there should be you know
1:10:11
if it's the news that somebody subscribe
1:10:14
to which is the case with this mailing
1:10:16
list they should all go through they
1:10:19
shouldn't end up in promotions or in
1:10:21
spam or anything else if Google is doing
1:10:23
its job I think they do a very piss-poor
1:10:26
job with their email no they're doing
1:10:28
exactly what they want to do if you
1:10:30
don't want to be this promotions tab is
1:10:33
also very interesting you get into the
1:10:35
promotions tab you can also pay to be at
1:10:37
the top of the promotions tab
1:10:38
it's an advertiser spot now
1:10:43
energy male oh yeah
1:10:45
why people in teams beyond Gmail is
1:10:48
beyond me anyway let's thank some people
1:10:50
who kindly we can no doubt saying hey
1:10:53
you know we got we had a fail and so
1:10:56
everybody you know a lot of people that
1:10:57
normally wait for that they seem to wait
1:11:01
for the second no hey man where's my
1:11:03
gifs oh shit contribute which I find is
1:11:10
B you know it's fine I like it because
1:11:13
at least it shows that we our people are
1:11:14
still following this show and they like
1:11:16
to show and so they will contribute so
1:11:17
we have a large list of executive
1:11:20
producers today
1:11:20
up from one well so it worked your evil
1:11:25
plan work before I could work actually
1:11:27
actually is up from probably two because
1:11:29
we have one that came in at through mail
1:11:30
through the mail okay
1:11:32
which was of course hieronymus of
1:11:34
Dogpatch in last night yes he's back how
1:11:36
was he doing well he gave us a 1000 $77
1:11:40
so that's he's doing well holy moly but
1:11:45
go to Sri note is very short two
1:11:49
paragraphs oh that's
1:11:50
I don't like Oh cuz here it goes keeping
1:11:55
up with this world is difficult so even
1:11:57
why I'm a day or two behind you to keep
1:11:59
me in front and often or from the future
1:12:01
thank you I hope to have some insight
1:12:04
when I finally stopped traveling but as
1:12:07
of now my observation is rose-colored
1:12:10
glasses are about to get a punch in the
1:12:13
nose I smell real shit around the corner
1:12:19
mmm not just in John and Adams poop
1:12:22
capitals hey we don't have the poop well
1:12:25
actually we we're stuck we couldn't
1:12:27
start in here but yes
1:12:28
happy Chanukah to to all-n jnk Wow so
1:12:34
I'm thinking he's probably thinking
1:12:36
there's crap going down the Middle East
1:12:41
or somewhere but he's nothing's up he
1:12:45
did say he will tell if he's ever sent
1:12:47
without a bunch of why you should be
1:12:49
donating to the show there's none of
1:12:50
that in here it's just that he just
1:12:52
thinks that something Bad's gonna happen
1:12:53
whether it could be economic they could
1:12:56
be middle he's he travels a lot and he
1:12:58
goes to the Middle East but you know and
1:13:01
hmm well this is very concerning now is
1:13:04
there something about the number the
1:13:07
1077 is there something we should be
1:13:09
reading into that I would think maybe
1:13:11
has got to be some code that we're not
1:13:13
senator it's not our show number so 1094
1:13:16
town this guy is a such a puzzle think
1:13:20
he's well the only producers were really
1:13:22
really known executive producers we feel
1:13:24
nothing about no but we have a lot of
1:13:27
indicators and hints now well does
1:13:30
travel a lot why he's traveling so much
1:13:32
we don't know that but he's seems to be
1:13:36
on top of a lot of things and jnk know
1:13:38
jingles know karma i will respect his
1:13:41
wishes but thank you very much sir
1:13:42
animus of Dogpatch and loris LeBeau via
1:13:44
we look forward to your next
1:13:45
communication and this is also yeah no
1:13:49
there's other issues I'll leave that out
1:13:51
anyway onward to Craig Mazzella $334 and
1:13:55
34 cents I apologize for the long note
1:13:59
which then got truncated oh gosh this is
1:14:04
horrible let me see if I have a copy of
1:14:06
it somewhere oh that's horrible start
1:14:11
start you're real funny start my second
1:14:14
so long I don't know why they
1:14:15
concatenated it or cut it off right
1:14:17
there but they did
1:14:22
you're gonna read it oh yeah hold on I
1:14:25
was you I thought you were looking for
1:14:26
the note I am but I had no luck so far
1:14:29
okay let me have all on one second I
1:14:32
just was right in the middle of
1:14:34
enlarging the page with the zoom he's
1:14:37
called in beginning I'm big and I
1:14:40
polished this or a long note but it's
1:14:42
important if you don't want to read it
1:14:45
then I would simply ask for the most
1:14:47
powerful jobs cover you have for me and
1:14:48
some easy pregnancy karma for my wife
1:14:50
named Janie we are expect and then it
1:14:53
ends this is horrible
1:14:56
you should have sent it through even I
1:14:58
have nothing on email from him but it
1:14:59
sounds like they are expecting a new
1:15:01
human resource so we'll hand out jobs
1:15:04
karma he wanted a big one big heaping
1:15:07
and with a new human resource karma and
1:15:10
please let us know what the rest of your
1:15:12
note says jobs jobs jobs and jobs that's
1:15:16
those job karma pregnancy Karma to be
1:15:22
specific oh yes you know what I remember
1:15:24
this note I think yeah was this and his
1:15:28
wife is continuously ill
1:15:31
I don't wish the same note I know I get
1:15:33
a lot of notes get a lot of London I
1:15:37
know a lot of people's lives and I'm not
1:15:39
sure if this was the same one so I'll do
1:15:41
it Gigi ela yeah I can't find it I've no
1:15:43
idea where it is maybe that's not how
1:15:46
his email is you know yeah see the
1:15:48
problem you know it's got some screen
1:15:50
name for his email like screw rename
1:15:52
damn it
1:15:53
screw industry anyway it's three three
1:15:59
three three four sir roger boots
1:16:02
Mechanicsville Iowa 33333
1:16:06
sir roger boots here it's been quite a
1:16:08
while using an old link and the link
1:16:10
still works
1:16:11
apparently him and that's all he's got
1:16:14
to say sir Kevlar 33333 from smear and a
1:16:18
Georgia uh he says I TM I haven't could
1:16:25
I have an Obama you might die to to the
1:16:27
head and oh my god amazing please yeah
1:16:31
we can do it to to the head and the mind
1:16:35
I know you might die first yeah I got
1:16:37
that oMG was it amazing
1:16:41
[Music]
1:16:44
yes okay here we go and a karma as well
1:16:50
you might die you've got karma kevlar
1:17:01
sent me a note a separate note right
1:17:04
after I sent the second the text email
1:17:07
out bitching
1:17:11
hey hey hey I was just about to sense
1:17:13
just about to send a donation thanks for
1:17:15
the reminder it's quite funny Nick so
1:17:21
Nicholas blex Ruud $333 ITM gents we've
1:17:26
were second time donors long time boners
1:17:29
has been a while since our last donation
1:17:30
can we get a D douching yes by request I
1:17:32
think so your sad letter typed at our
1:17:40
heartstrings and our purse strings thank
1:17:41
you to you and Anna for keeping us from
1:17:44
going dateline on each other and keeping
1:17:47
our marriage strong oh my husband hit me
1:17:50
in the mouth during our move from
1:17:52
Portland to Austin a few years ago in
1:17:54
our life who is this from this is from
1:17:56
my Nicholas Beck's Road well it's his
1:17:59
wife writing the note Oh Anna and Nick
1:18:01
yes okay the first day my husband hit me
1:18:07
in the mouth during our move from
1:18:08
Portland to Austin oh she's in Austin
1:18:11
mm-hmm a few months ago in our Portland
1:18:13
to Austin wow that's like a lateral move
1:18:19
man hipster yeah although it's when our
1:18:25
lives haven't become mostly meat-eating
1:18:27
hipsters in Austin all right come on I
1:18:30
haven't been the same franklin's haven't
1:18:32
been the same since the first time I
1:18:34
listened I was shocked shocked by the
1:18:37
oddball jingles but then I grew to love
1:18:40
you both recently we hit my mom in the
1:18:43
mouth and she thinks you're all the
1:18:44
funniest pair hi mom hi mom
1:18:47
thanks for all you do John and Adam
1:18:49
loved Anna and Nick yeah we'll give them
1:18:51
a karma as well thank you you crazy kids
1:18:53
and we'll see you at the meet up with
1:18:54
just being planned as we speak it's a
1:19:00
big one
1:19:02
all right now we have another road with
1:19:04
a notice donation Brian Lawson now he
1:19:08
did send an email in 333 let's see what
1:19:14
he says sent - sorry I've been overboard
1:19:17
lately just paid 333 through PayPal
1:19:19
happy holidays Syd
1:19:22
okay thank you very much happy holidays
1:19:26
now back to the now back to real news
1:19:31
sir Chris Spears and us another ausonian
1:19:34
it's crazy down here it's crazy crazy
1:19:37
talk by the way you know they if you
1:19:40
look at the numbers on the mailing list
1:19:42
what do you think what state you think
1:19:44
has the most
1:19:47
No Agenda people on it what state has
1:19:51
the most no agenda people in it yeah in
1:19:55
terms of the new mailing list people
1:19:56
that have actually gotten that far
1:19:59
[Music]
1:20:02
really have no idea really no California
1:20:06
by a lot you know it's also the biggest
1:20:08
state well what do you think second then
1:20:13
New York Texas really it is it a second
1:20:17
what's the same it's back up California
1:20:19
it's all the same thing yeah well it
1:20:22
we're California on the bench here so
1:20:24
whenever you need us we'll we'll pop in
1:20:26
coach we're ready for you yep
1:20:28
Chris Spears in Austin 322 uh I hope
1:20:33
this small bit of Valley for your Valley
1:20:35
finds you well as I look forward to my
1:20:36
celebrating my birthday tomorrow I think
1:20:38
he's on the list rounded appropriate to
1:20:40
celebrate your commitment to putting out
1:20:42
an outstanding product with this
1:20:43
contribution I cross the threshold for
1:20:46
barony alright and find the territory of
1:20:50
my residents already claimed in the
1:20:53
interim I demand my seed Mancow Kaymer a
1:20:57
clip that was promised in the show notes
1:21:00
a while back
1:21:02
you know anything about this well I know
1:21:05
about the clip I'm not sure I mean
1:21:06
you're in charge of the peerage
1:21:07
committee so I'm not sure what the
1:21:09
territory that he was he was going I
1:21:11
didn't I don't know knowledge of this
1:21:13
well has he needed know it Chris wasting
1:21:18
territorial claims within the peerage
1:21:19
system is ambiguous so that I just
1:21:22
claimed way no sorry's well that was
1:21:24
simplified yeah that's the Baron of
1:21:26
Buenos Aires it's good we're good to go
1:21:28
my god for 25 years they've been growing
1:21:31
babies and cows yeah that's what he was
1:21:34
looking for thank you very much sir
1:21:36
Chris Stephen Rincon with a check $320
1:21:40
and 32 cents from Frisco Texas and all
1:21:43
he put on the deed instead of note I
1:21:44
can't find an email and he put four
1:21:47
boobs with the number four
1:21:50
maybe he's wants boobs no maybe the
1:21:53
g---eight takes 800 eight times four you
1:21:56
get third 320 32 is that what it sounds
1:22:00
like to you like 800 8 times 4 could be
1:22:04
no could be nothing it's what it is okay
1:22:07
then there you go four time boobs but
1:22:10
why does he want four boobs
1:22:11
he just said for boobs he didn't say he
1:22:14
wanted four boobs
1:22:15
got it Kyle blank in Houston Texas $300
1:22:19
and 11 cents jcd the collection of
1:22:23
essays was brilliant wasn't the
1:22:25
collection was one oh he's thinking of
1:22:29
all of all of them here yeah I've done
1:22:31
quite a few Hank could be turned into a
1:22:34
giblet in fact I'm going to do that
1:22:36
jumping in with an executive producer
1:22:38
donation because the shows of late have
1:22:40
been outstanding he just needs some
1:22:42
karma you've got karma now we go to
1:22:49
associate executive producer starting
1:22:51
with James Schmid two hundred fifty
1:22:54
eight dollars and thirty nine cents
1:22:58
back after a dry spell again add own not
1:23:00
a boner I have been I need some healing
1:23:03
karma for an old pal who is in ICU
1:23:05
facing a bad juju from lung disease me
1:23:09
the deconstruction continues to be
1:23:10
brilliant
1:23:11
keep up the stellar work gents on girl
1:23:15
healing karma on its way you've got
1:23:17
karma George cannot in Westfield New
1:23:22
Jersey 250 your shows have been good
1:23:25
like other listeners I especially like
1:23:26
the eurozone discussions because nobody
1:23:29
else does them that's a euro land this
1:23:32
is what we call them here yeah eurozone
1:23:34
actually only you know eurozone actually
1:23:36
refers specifically to the countries
1:23:38
within the EU that used the euro as
1:23:42
their currency right
1:23:45
so when you say eurozone you're not you
1:23:47
you're leaving out a lot of country
1:23:49
that's that's brexit man this brexit is
1:23:52
brexit talk yeah I do not believe their
1:23:55
centre ie their laws or robust enough to
1:23:58
hold it together you provide
1:23:59
deconstruction in the news that forces
1:24:02
one to think and to listen closely I'm
1:24:03
the oldest of the Canute's clan or the
1:24:06
coonass clan and have
1:24:09
that has many fans and a few
1:24:11
contributors my nephew Colin who is
1:24:14
knighted is recovering from brain
1:24:15
surgery as well as can be expected he
1:24:19
has gone back to work full-time and
1:24:21
continues to reign and regain his
1:24:23
strength thanks George him kun has
1:24:27
pronounced kun F similar to Namath Kunis
1:24:30
a well which I think I've been
1:24:31
pronouncing correctly but let's give us
1:24:33
his yeah give it a little some Karma for
1:24:36
sure you've got karma the official hemp
1:24:44
dealer of the show or CBG I should say
1:24:47
CBD dealer of the show borough winters
1:24:52
here remember to get your amazing lip
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balm at lavender blossoms org I have to
1:25:01
say I do like the lip balm there's
1:25:03
nothing like putting some CBD lip balm
1:25:06
on yeah probably good for you thanks
1:25:09
guys stay healthy shirt cowl please hit
1:25:11
me with a Monsanto jingle it's always
1:25:15
ready for you thank you very much sir
1:25:17
cow Castro in Verona Wisconsin 22222
1:25:20
I've been enjoying a no agenda and
1:25:23
Mental Hygiene for over a decade please
1:25:25
mention obscura Tech the obscura tech
1:25:29
camera cover decals available at obscura
1:25:33
techcom that's obscure is this basically
1:25:37
a sticker sold this technology
1:25:42
particular Dan with obscure obscure tech
1:25:45
details the only way to assure no one is
1:25:47
checking you out by the way I should
1:25:48
mention this I should take some photos
1:25:51
of him so I bought a set of those of
1:25:54
those stickers and I swear to god
1:25:57
there's they're gorgeous there's these
1:25:59
are the available on Amazon you can just
1:26:01
look them up
1:26:02
these look like light but I'm sorry they
1:26:05
look like
1:26:07
plates your power of you know a little
1:26:09
plugin things where you get your what
1:26:12
they call your plugin you please
1:26:14
there's a wall socket they look like
1:26:15
wall psychos okay it looks exactly like
1:26:18
a wall socket is somewhat dimensionals
1:26:20
get some shading so and people have been
1:26:22
sticking them on the walls in airports
1:26:25
you go up to stick in here your laptop
1:26:28
charger and it's just a sticker yeah oh
1:26:31
what's the payoff though it's something
1:26:33
funny boring in an airport so but you
1:26:40
could put these stickers on anything and
1:26:42
they're funny you said there you get
1:26:45
about twelve of them for like five bucks
1:26:47
or something it's really worth it so
1:26:49
these obscura tech I'm looking at the
1:26:51
website the obscure tech stickers are
1:26:52
interesting what they are is they're
1:26:55
they're stickers that resemble your
1:26:58
camera on your device even though it's
1:27:01
obscuring the actual camera oh it's
1:27:04
covering the camera but it but it but it
1:27:06
makes it look like still that it's still
1:27:08
there yeah that's cool I use use gaffers
1:27:11
tape but I would use one of these oh no
1:27:13
this is much nicer than gaffers
1:27:15
yeah well gaffers else is gooey and it
1:27:18
gets all over everything
1:27:18
gaffers is fine is a good great sticking
1:27:21
temporary tape but if you leave it there
1:27:23
to not gone on it goes all sticky and
1:27:25
gooey and rotten on you you know what
1:27:27
it's the worst
1:27:28
don't use gaffers tape for anything
1:27:30
semi-permanent this is a piece of advice
1:27:33
alright thank you very much Christian
1:27:34
that's listen thank you for the support
1:27:36
and I you want some Carmen interesting
1:27:39
those decals for sure you've got karma
1:27:45
Hamburg California 220 ohm eiga project
1:27:50
wishes all may you up be well may you be
1:27:53
happy and may you find peace thank you
1:27:55
very much
1:27:56
Andrew Brewer in winston-salem North
1:27:58
Carolina two hundred dollars and two
1:28:00
cents Boehner since the six hundred
1:28:02
episodes but always propagating the
1:28:04
formula never miss an episode I hear
1:28:06
many North Carolina donors announced
1:28:08
high time for a meet up addy douching
1:28:11
please there's a Tech Center in North
1:28:19
North Carolina is a tech state and a
1:28:21
awkward way cuz IBM had his
1:28:23
winston-salem that you know the Research
1:28:25
Triangle in Raleigh was a huge Tech
1:28:29
Center very competitive and so you have
1:28:33
a lot of Engineers and guys like that
1:28:35
North Carolina and the best barbecue in
1:28:38
the in the in the country depending it
1:28:40
all over the state Joshua Landon and
1:28:44
Cincinnati Ohio two hundred
1:28:46
I haven't donated because I had Thursday
1:28:49
show happens on my birthday and I
1:28:52
decided to donate because Thursday show
1:28:54
happens on my birthday I figured it was
1:28:55
time to chip in and help the show during
1:28:58
this lull period of donations indeed I
1:29:01
would appreciate a birthday shout out as
1:29:03
I'm turning 39 an accelerated rappers
1:29:06
accelerating rapidly towards forty if
1:29:08
you wish please play to l Sharpton clips
1:29:12
and a mac and cheese song thanks for all
1:29:15
the media deconstruction in 2018 and
1:29:18
wish you both a very Merry Christmas and
1:29:20
a Happy New Year night is the measure of
1:29:23
whether the country begins in the state
1:29:27
of Wisconsin a national drive to push
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back or whether we have more to go to
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build a movement of resistance but
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resist we much
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our ESP ICT
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my rent
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you've got karma Joshua is a serf Foxbat
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yes and that will be our list of
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executive associate executive producers
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responsible for show 1094 want to thank
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each and every of one of them as we head
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toward show 1100 which will be our first
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really that is the first show it is
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actually show number 1100 yep
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Wow that's a coincidence all right not
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thank you to our executive producers and
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associate executive producers really
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came through in an odd way which didn't
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have to be like this every time but it's
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1:31:28
I was thinking about deep platforming
1:31:33
over the weekend cuz maybe it actually
1:31:37
works
1:31:39
Meah works well when's the last time you
1:31:42
saw anything on television mind you
1:31:44
about Milo Oh Milo definitely get got
1:31:49
sidelined when's the last time you heard
1:31:51
anything on television about Alex Jones
1:31:54
died just recently hmm only because he
1:31:57
showed up at the hearing that's the only
1:32:00
thing you heard about him just recently
1:32:01
yes this is right and that's what made
1:32:04
me think about it like this deep
1:32:06
platforming I mean I know how to listen
1:32:09
to Alex Jones if I want to but he's not
1:32:11
in my mind at all I don't it don't think
1:32:15
about him anymore
1:32:15
Laura Loomer who chained yourself to
1:32:17
twitter's from shore in New York City
1:32:20
she's memorized herself yeah but also I
1:32:23
mean what happens is and if you notice
1:32:26
by the way these people who get the
1:32:28
platform the only ones that matter and
1:32:29
you should pay attention and I think I'm
1:32:31
being protected in hindsight is those
1:32:34
with the checkmark
1:32:37
the checkmark said I believe that there
1:32:40
is a tracking mechanism going on it's
1:32:42
very unclear how these how these
1:32:44
verified checkmarks work I've tried for
1:32:47
years I gave up on it and now I've
1:32:49
always said I think I'm kind of happy
1:32:51
because it seems to be the mark of the
1:32:52
beast but it really is and they're
1:32:54
tracking anyone who's a journal in there
1:32:56
and the school newspaper gets a verified
1:32:59
checkmark so they are clearly tracking
1:33:01
mainly news and those who spread news
1:33:04
and are influencers and you're one of
1:33:06
them you are a columnist a journalist
1:33:09
and influencer and I without my
1:33:12
checkmark
1:33:12
I am nothing you know no I'm a
1:33:16
non-playing character I'm an end piece
1:33:19
and I'm an npc in the big game of
1:33:21
Twitter oh and peace I'm completely
1:33:23
unimportant no matter what I do I'll
1:33:26
never go away because I'm an NPC I'm
1:33:28
just meant to spin around you're saving
1:33:30
the day then yes it's a game with real
1:33:32
consequences this is a this is route
1:33:34
when you step back it's like if you're
1:33:38
not on Twitter if you get deep platform
1:33:40
mainly from Twitter you're gone your
1:33:42
career is over Laura Loomer you're right
1:33:45
she lured herself she's gone she is just
1:33:47
gone and somehow there's some big game
1:33:51
and it interacts with the mainstream
1:33:52
media in the United States for sure and
1:33:56
if you got a checkmark you basically
1:33:58
have a target on you all the time you
1:34:00
have to be very careful
1:34:04
well I'm very careful I know you are I
1:34:07
know you are but the the even though you
1:34:10
know I mean that's why we took the
1:34:12
bullet thing from the art removed it and
1:34:15
use the other one damn
1:34:17
we succumbed we succumb to the no you
1:34:21
just have to play there yes you have to
1:34:23
play it by a certain set of rules we we
1:34:26
get around most of them because we have
1:34:27
no advertisers telling us what to do or
1:34:29
nor no corporate guy hey you can't do
1:34:32
that we have the self police yeah we do
1:34:35
but we can self police in favor of our
1:34:37
listeners and producers because in it
1:34:40
and I'm gonna say it at the end of the
1:34:43
day that particular piece of artwork
1:34:45
wasn't that important no oh no we make
1:34:49
choices it's actually let's just say an
1:34:52
advertising for a moments that you
1:34:53
brought that up the something new is
1:34:55
happening everyone's all all aflutter
1:34:58
about it because finally we're bringing
1:35:01
spying to podcasts I could not be more
1:35:04
proud everybody way to go yes we're
1:35:07
bringing spying to podcasting we're now
1:35:09
gonna spy on you like the big boys this
1:35:13
has been a big project mainly of NPR and
1:35:16
I follow all the podcast industry news
1:35:18
and you know the big complaint about the
1:35:21
about advertising and podcast is there's
1:35:25
no way to track it if someone just
1:35:26
downloaded it did they listen to it how
1:35:28
much did they listen to it we don't know
1:35:30
if the message is getting out so first
1:35:32
the industry the industry can't with
1:35:35
some agreements as to what a download is
1:35:37
which I questioned but it's okay the at
1:35:40
least is an agreement that's no better
1:35:42
or worse than the Nielsen Raylan but now
1:35:45
they've gone completely stupid and they
1:35:48
decided no we're going to make it so we
1:35:50
can really track how far in you're
1:35:53
listening to this and this falls under
1:35:55
the protocol rad it is now version 3 if
1:35:58
rad which is remote audio data being the
1:36:02
data that you are giving remotely and
1:36:05
the way it works yo yeah they have a
1:36:07
framework which is on the github and
1:36:09
this is again this is NPR and I think
1:36:12
they have they've implemented it in
1:36:13
there NPR one app well they're gonna be
1:36:16
highly disappointed
1:36:18
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1:36:19
that's one part of the stupidity of it
1:36:22
all but they also have this idea that
1:36:26
here's my framework please put it into
1:36:29
your podcast player so the industry as a
1:36:31
whole can track and see because what you
1:36:35
really need is two pieces the production
1:36:38
the mp3 itself in the id3 tags where you
1:36:41
put in the title and the artwork and oh
1:36:43
by the way I I noticed that my recording
1:36:47
software had defaulted back to only the
1:36:49
author who who registered the program I
1:36:53
use Hindenburg so instead of Adam curry
1:36:56
and John C Devore I could just said me I
1:36:57
don't know how long it's been doing that
1:36:59
but someone alerted me to that but then
1:37:04
you add a special little tracking URL or
1:37:06
multiple tracking URLs so that when your
1:37:09
player hits a certain mark that you also
1:37:12
have to put into the podcast
1:37:13
it'll then hit that URL and then it will
1:37:16
say hey this this guy over here listen
1:37:19
to this point in this podcast and I will
1:37:23
send you're going to hear the and this
1:37:25
is what I why I pulled these clips this
1:37:27
is the guy who's really on the
1:37:28
implementation side it's not on the
1:37:29
content creation side and he has says a
1:37:31
lot of things he shouldn't he is not the
1:37:34
guy to communicate this because it
1:37:35
sounds like you're just being creepy and
1:37:37
spying and in fact that's what you're
1:37:39
doing and it's going as John said it's
1:37:41
this you're gonna be very disappointed
1:37:42
when you find out who's actually how
1:37:45
many people are actually listening and
1:37:46
to to have the gall to say we won't know
1:37:52
who you are when this takes place is
1:37:54
just the lie of epic proportions life
1:37:57
she addresses it you can figure it you
1:37:59
don't know what phone you have the a lot
1:38:01
of people know it comes from phone so
1:38:03
it's like when you tell you what browser
1:38:08
people are using or they're coming from
1:38:10
it'll give you your unique device ID
1:38:12
because it's mainly a phone I mean all
1:38:14
this stuff is it's just given to you
1:38:16
through the HTTP request itself I'm
1:38:19
paraphrasing but believe me this is
1:38:21
possible here he is Bryan Moffett of NPR
1:38:23
explains okay so the challenge in the
1:38:24
podcasting space over the last decade is
1:38:26
that John the challenge in the box
1:38:29
those last decades really but okay so
1:38:36
the challenge in the podcasting space
1:38:37
over the last decade has been all of us
1:38:39
have been circling around a better
1:38:40
definition of a download and this is
1:38:43
largely because most of the places where
1:38:44
people listen are not places that you
1:38:46
know we control the distribution so it's
1:38:48
Apple podcast just the largest and
1:38:49
you've got a bunch of other apps now
1:38:51
listen he says something interesting
1:38:53
about who controls the distribution and
1:38:56
he views the podcast app as the person
1:39:01
or the entity that controls the
1:39:03
distribution
1:39:05
and I disagree why because they
1:39:12
don't control whether something is where
1:39:16
that you can get it or not the and and
1:39:19
if he's talking about what they promote
1:39:22
sure I'm sure that lots of podcasts take
1:39:25
in fact he'll talk about it take money
1:39:27
to promote certain podcast so enhancing
1:39:30
distribution yeah but they don't control
1:39:32
it
1:39:35
no iTunes doesn't host our file I'm just
1:39:38
saying you know we control the
1:39:39
distribution so at Apple podcasts is the
1:39:41
largest and you've got a bunch of other
1:39:42
apps that distribute our content for
1:39:45
free and so all we know is that somebody
1:39:48
requested the file now listen to how
1:39:50
he's talking he's talking about his
1:39:52
content his NPR's content he's not
1:39:54
talking about anybody else with them and
1:39:56
we know if the bytes were delivered to
1:39:57
customer that user and that's kind of
1:39:59
where we are with the IAB and the common
1:40:01
definition known as IB v2 so we can all
1:40:04
speak the same language about downloads
1:40:07
that's been great it's I think a huge
1:40:10
step forward for the industry that we
1:40:11
all have that definition but we know
1:40:13
there's downloads that don't get played
1:40:15
I think I do is look at your own
1:40:16
behavior there's so much good stuff out
1:40:18
there that you don't quite get to
1:40:19
everything we have good research that
1:40:21
says people listen to most of what they
1:40:22
download and that's been great but what
1:40:24
we want to get at is a way to understand
1:40:26
from all those places where our podcasts
1:40:28
are played which files that were
1:40:30
downloaded actually got listened to and
1:40:32
I think it's really important to
1:40:34
interject here you know we're not
1:40:35
worried about who listened to it we're
1:40:37
just worried that someone because you
1:40:40
know that's the information we don't
1:40:41
have and that's all we're really looking
1:40:43
to get it same things we learn from NPR
1:40:46
one you know what kind of engagement are
1:40:48
we getting with this content is it worth
1:40:50
you know the distribution deals we're
1:40:52
making with different platforms are
1:40:54
people listening to what they download
1:40:55
do you hear that the deals we make with
1:40:59
all these so NPR is apparently paying
1:41:02
podcast apps to highlight their content
1:41:05
yeah I didn't know that and who ends
1:41:08
only you now but there's only a few of
1:41:10
them out there there's not that many
1:41:12
that are being you starts talking about
1:41:14
this we don't care who it is I'm
1:41:15
thinking oh okay opening the door it was
1:41:18
what else are these these click farms
1:41:21
out in the Philippines and India but you
1:41:25
know they've been kind of busted
1:41:26
recently let's give them something else
1:41:28
to do
1:41:28
oh yeah and it's just URLs it's not that
1:41:32
hard to replicate in fact here's this
1:41:33
technical pitch so in a quick overview
1:41:37
what we're talking about with remote
1:41:38
audio data is actually very very simple
1:41:40
inside those audio files which are
1:41:42
typically mp3s although it can be mp4 or
1:41:45
other formats all we want to do is put a
1:41:48
little extra method
1:41:49
that tells where the important points in
1:41:51
the file are where are the quartile
1:41:53
markers where is like the halfway point
1:41:55
for our sponsors where was a sponsorship
1:41:58
starting and ending so that we can have
1:42:00
the podcast playback platforms when
1:42:03
listening happens at one of those points
1:42:05
just send us back a little ping that
1:42:08
says listening happened at that point
1:42:09
that's all we're asking for
1:42:11
it's hardly any data at all we're not
1:42:14
asking for any user information or PII
1:42:16
it's simply somebody listened at that
1:42:19
point in that file and that's that's the
1:42:21
basic metric we're looking to get back
1:42:23
yeah I'm very against this I don't want
1:42:25
anyone knowing what I'm listening to
1:42:28
and you can tell me a hundred times that
1:42:30
we don't know anything about you that's
1:42:32
bullcrap
1:42:32
I don't want anyone to know what podcast
1:42:34
I listen to I'm not gonna report that
1:42:36
Marc Marco from over already been
1:42:38
embarrassed by them by the fact that
1:42:40
Twitter outed you as a Britney Spears
1:42:43
spot exactly what just so you know she
1:42:48
also follows me so that's how that came
1:42:51
to be she started following me and like
1:42:53
okay Britt know I'll follow you back
1:42:55
mm-hmm
1:42:57
Marco from overcast which i think is
1:43:00
arguably the second most popular app is
1:43:03
that he's not going to implement it and
1:43:05
that does not seem to be even
1:43:08
what is the app that NPR bought they
1:43:10
bought pocket casts they say it's not on
1:43:12
their roadmap so I don't know if this is
1:43:13
if this is really gonna go anywhere I
1:43:16
sure hope not it's this is not this is
1:43:20
not the this is not right for podcasting
1:43:22
why who cares
1:43:26
I'm not doing anything wrong what
1:43:27
difference does that make if they know
1:43:28
you're listening to the Britney Spears
1:43:30
podcast
1:43:32
Taylor Swift podcast that I listen to
1:43:34
now not Britney
1:43:37
well that's different
1:43:41
all right well I think that's that's it
1:43:43
you don't know where conclusions to make
1:43:44
a sub that you think is a bad idea well
1:43:46
you kind of start to shut down call you
1:43:49
up
1:43:50
oh why would they report so that was it
1:43:53
last time you were called by anyone to
1:43:56
make some one-line comma course they
1:43:58
take about 30 lines they still one of
1:44:00
them one line comment about the whole
1:44:03
scene the whole podcasting scene which
1:44:05
happens to be hot right now um
1:44:07
I cannot remember yeah so long ago no I
1:44:11
think I can't get a hold of you know I
1:44:14
did get something although they look
1:44:16
probably in your Twitter account say I
1:44:18
didn't gotta just not he missed he
1:44:19
didn't get a check mark I did get a
1:44:21
written interview request which I
1:44:23
complied with I think it was from the
1:44:26
UAE Arab Emirates off to look it up it
1:44:30
was very detailed well yeah there's
1:44:32
something like that no no one ever asked
1:44:33
me I think why would they I've only been
1:44:38
through it all once I've already seen
1:44:40
how it won't work it's okay well that's
1:44:42
the reason they're not now you know now
1:44:44
you know why the why they're not gonna
1:44:46
call you yes I'm gonna throw a wet
1:44:49
blanket on it sorry sorry guys
1:44:53
alright well we got enough wet blankets
1:44:55
throwing our own stuff so we'll do that
1:44:57
I want to go back doesn't mean anything
1:44:59
that's because we asked there our
1:45:01
listeners and producers to take part in
1:45:04
the show and contribute to keeping it
1:45:06
going
1:45:06
it's truly would suck if it had sponsors
1:45:09
it's the best way to do it it is the and
1:45:12
people love it enough secrets given away
1:45:18
[Music]
1:45:20
Bloomberg was on the view no cheese you
1:45:24
didn't actually watch it this is a clip
1:45:26
you just got or someone sent it to you
1:45:28
what do you think well you've been very
1:45:30
critical of President Trump and you're
1:45:32
you've been openly weighing a run
1:45:35
against him in 2020 you didn't run the
1:45:44
last time no I think we found as you
1:45:46
cannot win as an independent because the
1:45:48
electoral college requires a majority
1:45:50
not a plurality and even if I did get a
1:45:54
lot of electoral votes
1:45:56
you couldn't possibly win it would have
1:45:58
gone to the house and the house would
1:45:59
then pick the Republican candidate or
1:46:05
what is it what is he what is his lie
1:46:08
he's claiming that if you run as an
1:46:10
independent if the electoral college
1:46:12
won't recognize just gonna go to the
1:46:14
house and he's going on and I was some
1:46:16
nonsense but that's okay then picked the
1:46:21
Republican candidate or next time pick
1:46:24
the Democratic candidate yeah exactly
1:46:29
what my obit would have been he was a
1:46:31
spoiler they can write other things
1:46:34
about me when I die what would make it
1:46:36
more appealing to you then for 2020 well
1:46:38
you'd only run if you could get the
1:46:40
Republican or the Democratic nomination
1:46:42
obviously the Republicans probably not
1:46:45
going to be available and I don't agree
1:46:46
with almost everything they stand for
1:46:48
today
1:46:49
and so it'd have to be the Democratic
1:46:50
nomination and if you want to run that's
1:46:53
what you'd have to do and I don't know
1:46:54
I've looked at it and I've said we'll
1:46:56
beginning of the year focus on it no
1:46:58
chance ever he's so boring you can't you
1:47:02
can't put that one back we need we need
1:47:04
excitement no one will vote for him
1:47:07
he's delusional all that there's that
1:47:10
it's just bit of course if anyone read
1:47:13
the essay that was in the last failed
1:47:14
newsletter they will realize that the
1:47:18
real problem with the Democrats have is
1:47:19
Hillary and they're not doing everything
1:47:21
they can to avoid talking about her
1:47:23
including marine Dowd who came out with
1:47:26
a very interesting piece in the New York
1:47:28
Times where she hates Hillary mm-hmm and
1:47:30
she says all Bill and Hillary are going
1:47:32
on their tour you have to pay 700 bucks
1:47:34
to go listen to them and their places
1:47:35
are dead empty and then they have a
1:47:37
picture on Groupon there even the the
1:47:40
tickets are on Groupon yeah she'll Obama
1:47:46
is selling out internationally this is
1:47:48
the yeah but this is the meme do we know
1:47:50
this any of this for a fact what
1:47:53
Michelle Obama is selling out
1:47:55
internationally or the Clintons not
1:47:57
selling out at all well the Clintons
1:48:00
have had empty seats and Michelle Obama
1:48:03
has had full seats in fact I got a lot
1:48:05
of emails from people because their
1:48:07
tickets went on sale today in the
1:48:09
Netherlands
1:48:09
she's also appearing there and she's got
1:48:12
some big venues yes yes
1:48:15
becoming Michelle are definitely making
1:48:17
a point and put it pushing this meme
1:48:20
into the media trying to get Hillary off
1:48:23
the track of running again cuz if she
1:48:25
does they've got all kinds of problems
1:48:28
it would split the vote a lot it would
1:48:32
really my I believe that it and as I
1:48:38
expressed in the essay she deserves to
1:48:40
win and I'll give a little summary what
1:48:42
the what the the problem the Democrats
1:48:45
have is that by and that's why they're
1:48:47
pivoting away from the rush of collusion
1:48:50
thing they have to pivot away from it
1:48:52
because if it's Russia collusion and
1:48:54
them and the 2016 election was rigged
1:48:57
that means Hillary was job died yes and
1:49:01
she got ripped off but she deserves yeah
1:49:03
she needs yeah she need justice for
1:49:06
Hillary she she got screwed she should
1:49:08
be given a second chance I like that I
1:49:10
got a letter from somebody saying yeah
1:49:12
well you know Hillary would kick his ass
1:49:14
if she ran again and maybe I
1:49:19
yeah I know maybe is the right word but
1:49:22
doubtful is another word that I think
1:49:24
you can use anyway so that's something
1:49:27
happened
1:49:28
Time magazine came out with their Person
1:49:31
of the Year and I'm not sure do they do
1:49:34
four different covers or it's a rotating
1:49:36
cover or they can never seem to make up
1:49:38
their mind but what they did is they
1:49:41
made it about journalists khashoggi yeah
1:49:46
they put Khashoggi on and then but also
1:49:49
the people who were killed remember when
1:49:54
the they were gunned down at the
1:49:55
newspaper office yeah near was it in
1:49:58
Delaware no where was it well doesn't
1:50:01
matter but Maryland day it came yeah but
1:50:04
my question is is was he a journalist or
1:50:08
was he a columnist or an essayist I mean
1:50:11
you you Bill yourself as a columnist for
1:50:14
instance on the dhm plug show is there a
1:50:16
difference if so what is the difference
1:50:19
and should khashoggi be treated as a
1:50:22
journalist like he is being treated by
1:50:25
Time magazine no and I'll tell you what
1:50:28
I think the point is as journalists do
1:50:31
journalism they go out and report he's
1:50:34
not a reporter but now when you get that
1:50:38
the columnist you get a lot of columnist
1:50:40
where you go to certain editors and the
1:50:41
editors don't like columnist because
1:50:43
they don't like anybody who can just be
1:50:45
Blatter they don't like that they'd
1:50:48
rather have somebody doing reporting so
1:50:50
they've actually demand that columnist
1:50:52
report I want to see more reporting in
1:50:55
this column huh what's a column it's an
1:50:57
opinion piece it says somebody's idea of
1:50:59
you know what's going on in the world
1:51:01
that might give somebody else some
1:51:02
insight which was a good example in the
1:51:04
essay I wrote which is a kind of a
1:51:06
column it's an essay really and and call
1:51:09
them good columns to me our essays
1:51:11
they're not reportage but cuz show he's
1:51:15
showed no signs of ever being a reporter
1:51:17
I mean I could do it I can go out in it
1:51:19
just take a microphone to somebody's
1:51:21
face and ask him a question and record
1:51:23
it
1:51:24
it's not that hard journalism is
1:51:25
actually not that difficult it's not
1:51:27
yeah my god well I like that I like that
1:51:30
yeah thank you because
1:51:32
would really get you in hot water with
1:51:34
your Lib joes if you said journalist
1:51:36
it's not that just don't like to talk
1:51:38
about it well the question was posed but
1:51:40
one of my Lib Joe friends always says
1:51:42
hey why are we talking about this
1:51:44
we're not Hemingway the question the
1:51:49
question of journalists versus columnist
1:51:53
was posed to professor Chris Chambers
1:51:56
professor of Media Studies at Georgetown
1:51:58
University and this was on RT his answer
1:52:02
as you can imagine differed from what
1:52:05
you just said ok professor I have to
1:52:07
tell you it's great and do you think
1:52:08
this is a good thing for time to
1:52:10
actually recognize think so I think so I
1:52:11
mean it's it's about time because we're
1:52:13
entering a very dark time in terms of
1:52:16
getting information out there people
1:52:18
relying too much on gossip and innuendo
1:52:21
and fake news and seeing that this is a
1:52:26
dangerous profession and people need to
1:52:28
see that I think and I think this was a
1:52:31
great choice for them and well I don't
1:52:33
think it was gimmicky gimmicky probably
1:52:35
would have been Robert Muller or
1:52:36
somebody like that I think they took the
1:52:38
hard way right for this I mean they
1:52:41
could have gone with robert muller or
1:52:42
somebody like that they went with this
1:52:45
and i applaud them finally for doing
1:52:47
this absolutely now to put all of them
1:52:49
together though i think the question
1:52:51
that a lot of especially if you did you
1:52:53
were a journalism student and you watch
1:52:55
the news like you have to question is
1:52:56
there a difference though between being
1:52:58
a columnist and a journalist and is that
1:53:02
kind of not necessarily defined amongst
1:53:04
these four covers well I don't I haven't
1:53:07
read the the the companion piece yet but
1:53:09
I think what my opinion is they're
1:53:11
trying to find a common language that
1:53:13
everybody can kind of hook into and not
1:53:15
make these fine distinctions now what I
1:53:17
would tell what I tell my students is is
1:53:19
that the minutes might puts a bullet in
1:53:21
your head you're probably a journalist
1:53:25
some of the people at the Gazette were
1:53:27
columnists it's it's it's it's
1:53:29
presenting information whatever
1:53:30
platformer or outlet you you use be it
1:53:34
you know your opinion and and personal
1:53:36
essays or your going for hard as expose
1:53:40
'he's you're doing something that upsets
1:53:42
some very powerful people and rather
1:53:45
than having them debate you on that they
1:53:47
send a group of assassins after you or
1:53:50
they go crazy and walk into your office
1:53:52
and blow you away and I think that once
1:53:55
you do once you take a bullet or a knife
1:53:57
I think everybody is is pretty much a
1:54:00
journalist at that point
1:54:01
Wow how wrong could you be John once you
1:54:05
take a bullet once you take a bullet
1:54:07
than all of a sudden your journal I
1:54:10
thought that to be interesting now he
1:54:14
inches he really only wrote for the
1:54:17
Washington Post for about a year it
1:54:19
wasn't all that long and Sibel Edmonds
1:54:22
who typically news but I don't look at
1:54:25
what she's what they're doing over there
1:54:27
usually just not enough time in the day
1:54:28
but Sibel Edmonds when she when it comes
1:54:30
to Turkey she knows what's going on and
1:54:32
she's been filing for the past seven or
1:54:35
eight weeks a lot of reports about
1:54:38
khashoggi from Turkey and I'll just she
1:54:41
has not done anything final there's no
1:54:43
clips to listen to from from her
1:54:45
reporting at least but she says she
1:54:47
feels that this was definitely some kind
1:54:50
of operation but not from the Saudis she
1:54:54
believes it was the Muslim Brotherhood
1:54:56
and mainly from Qatar because him with
1:55:00
all these changes with the with the the
1:55:03
Saudi royal family Khashoggi basically
1:55:05
chose the wrong side but in the you know
1:55:07
he chose the anti MBS side but in a week
1:55:10
before anything happened to him whatever
1:55:13
it was in his Arabic publications
1:55:15
according to Sibel Edmonds he started he
1:55:18
flipped and he became much more positive
1:55:20
and he really wanted he really wanted to
1:55:21
go back to Saudi Arabia and the thinking
1:55:25
from Edmonds is and you know she worked
1:55:27
for the FBI she was a translator she had
1:55:29
very high security clearance and she's
1:55:31
been a whistleblower on this stuff for a
1:55:33
long time I think she has credibility in
1:55:35
this area for sure but she believes that
1:55:38
it was the Muslim Brotherhood and in
1:55:40
particular the Qataris who just jumped
1:55:42
out of OPEC let's just add that there
1:55:46
there's all kinds of problems to him
1:55:47
them and Saudi Arabia they didn't want
1:55:49
khashoggi giving the Saudis any intimate
1:55:53
details about their operation and that
1:55:55
the Fiat
1:55:56
say who brought him to the consulate who
1:55:58
we've never heard from again
1:56:00
where did where the interviews with her
1:56:02
have we seen anything from the fiancee
1:56:04
he just got married for the second time
1:56:08
he had two wives already and this was
1:56:11
now his girlfriend in Turkey and what
1:56:13
the news bud people alleges that she was
1:56:16
a honeypot to get him in and that's
1:56:18
where things were taken care of but for
1:56:21
some reason she feels it was not Saudi
1:56:23
Arabia it was the Qataris and in
1:56:25
particular through Muslim Brotherhood
1:56:27
affiliated groups so I'm kind of looking
1:56:30
at we already think asserted that
1:56:32
Khashoggi may be some form of spy not
1:56:36
just your typical little columnist we've
1:56:38
you know he was spoke at the Pentagon we
1:56:40
had all kinds of clips and then here is
1:56:42
the the woman who hired him at the
1:56:45
Washington Post this is Karen attea and
1:56:47
she has a very short Wikipedia entry for
1:56:51
someone who is the global opinion editor
1:56:56
of The Washington Post or is that a very
1:56:58
easy job to get what's your what's your
1:57:00
opinion of that it's one of those it's a
1:57:02
weird job it's not that easy to get and
1:57:04
then Washington Post it would be
1:57:05
probably a difficult job because it's
1:57:06
important to Washington dc-based
1:57:08
operation
1:57:10
I'm non-trivial okay and this is me
1:57:13
gonna have a lot of creds that anybody
1:57:15
would want to see in the Wikipedia well
1:57:18
exactly here's what she hears what she
1:57:23
has born August 12 a gun a gun not deny
1:57:27
an American writer and global opinions
1:57:30
editor for The Washington Post born in
1:57:31
north eastern Texas to a Nigerian Gahan
1:57:35
II and mother and Gahan Ian's father
1:57:37
after a bachelor's degree at
1:57:39
Northwestern University Atia won a
1:57:40
Fulbright scholarship to study in Accra
1:57:45
Ghana and obtained an Master of Arts
1:57:48
from Columbia University before joining
1:57:50
the Washington Post
1:57:53
that's a pretty quick timeline yeah it's
1:57:58
very spooky too well this is exactly
1:58:01
what I was thinking I'm thinking to spot
1:58:03
the spook maybe so let's see if we can
1:58:13
put it to the test and listen to the
1:58:15
words she's using or that are used with
1:58:17
her in regards to Ashok yeah it does
1:58:20
seem fitting you know this one here
1:58:22
Karen ideas with me she's a global
1:58:23
opinions editor for The Washington Post
1:58:25
and it was Karen who recruited Khashoggi
1:58:27
to the post about a year ago a pleasure
1:58:30
to have you on and I just wanted to you
1:58:32
to react to the president saying it was
1:58:34
the it's the world this vicious world to
1:58:37
blame for Jamal's murder what do you
1:58:39
make of that it's just such a you know
1:58:43
for you know a president and an
1:58:45
administration that has been so
1:58:47
preoccupied with projecting strengths
1:58:50
with projecting America first
1:58:52
it just is such a sort of weak and
1:58:56
cynical statement and it denotes the
1:58:59
sort of hopelessness in the face of of
1:59:04
human rights abuses of repression and
1:59:06
says nothing of you know our role in at
1:59:10
least in this case in the case of
1:59:12
Jamal's donor in the case of the Tellez
1:59:17
things of note one if she's not
1:59:19
hyperventilating she's nervous as hell
1:59:20
yeah so that makes me think she's
1:59:23
probably not a spook because I can't
1:59:26
imagine her not being able to hold it
1:59:28
together or the simple question like
1:59:29
this either she's been competent but I
1:59:34
don't you know when somebody's is
1:59:35
nervous you always makes you wonder how
1:59:37
they get these positions
1:59:39
any other observations not yet besides
1:59:42
the fact that she uses weird language
1:59:44
no just wolf in it yeah we'll finish
1:59:45
this one up and then the final clip may
1:59:48
tell us more and says nothing of you
1:59:51
know our role in at least in this case
1:59:54
in the case of Jamal's murder in the
1:59:56
case of the war in Yemen in the case of
2:00:00
you know what we're seeing to be you
2:00:03
know a and global and stability and
2:00:05
repression coming from Saudi Arabia
2:00:08
denying that we have any sort of role to
2:00:12
play in stopping this I don't think that
2:00:15
was an answer to the question but okay
2:00:17
she recruited Khashoggi just over a year
2:00:19
ago and all this love and adoration and
2:00:21
uh you know we have to play this up and
2:00:24
Thank You Washington Post for making
2:00:26
that also very clear and then we get to
2:00:29
the flub where the truth always wants to
2:00:31
come out one minute a clip of her with
2:00:33
Anderson Cooper I mean it does seem
2:00:34
fitting and also incredibly sad that
2:00:36
that his last column this last column
2:00:39
would be about freedom of the press in
2:00:41
in the Arab world it's fitting but it's
2:00:43
it's in our time working together
2:00:45
especially in the last several weeks you
2:00:48
hear the difference in her in her voice
2:00:49
now a little bit yeah he was very
2:00:52
analytic and he would come into the
2:00:54
office we had lunch a couple weeks ago
2:00:57
and he was very adamant about wanting to
2:01:00
do more in Arabic he wanted to create a
2:01:03
sort of you know International Herald
2:01:05
Tribune for their world the
2:01:08
International Herald Tribune for the air
2:01:10
for the Arab world isn't the the IHT
2:01:13
isn't that unknown CIA publication
2:01:17
well it's a bit
2:01:20
it's propaganda the EHT was always found
2:01:24
on how much propaganda I've had material
2:01:27
in there probably has always a joint
2:01:30
venture between the New York Times and
2:01:33
The Washington Post which is sketchy if
2:01:36
you think about it yes and I think it
2:01:39
was recently I think the Washington Post
2:01:41
was kicked out of the New York Times
2:01:43
took it over and I've got could be wrong
2:01:47
it's one of the two I'll you know it's
2:01:48
not it's not what it once was which was
2:01:51
this joint venture and if you if you
2:01:55
want to say that it's a mouthpiece for
2:01:57
the CIA cuz they message overseas in it
2:02:00
because it's really it's something you
2:02:01
buy when you're in London you're
2:02:03
floating around if you're a traveler you
2:02:04
pick it up because it's good it's got a
2:02:06
summary of everything and if you want me
2:02:10
by saying that it's a mouthpiece for the
2:02:12
CIA you have to be saying that the New
2:02:14
York Times is too
2:02:16
right so but why would he even why would
2:02:18
this even be the topic of conversation
2:02:19
just seemed like an odd thing say oh I
2:02:22
can't I really want to build the
2:02:24
International Herald Tribune for the
2:02:25
Arab world I mean is it relevant anymore
2:02:29
No doesn't the flub is still coming
2:02:32
wanting to do more in Arabic he wanted
2:02:35
to create a sort of you know
2:02:37
International Herald Tribune for the
2:02:39
Arab world and I think that he he really
2:02:43
he wanted to be free he just saw how a
2:02:46
journalism was being smashed around the
2:02:50
Arab world and and so it was something
2:02:53
that he was really pushing for
2:02:54
everything pushy about it wasn't a very
2:02:56
pushy writer at all but on this note it
2:03:00
was something that he was really
2:03:00
passionate about and to the point where
2:03:02
good said Karen I would do this for free
2:03:04
you put just let me do this I'll set up
2:03:06
editors I'll figure it out and we were
2:03:08
discussing and setting up some sort of
2:03:10
newsletter perhaps that he could helm
2:03:13
and and take charge of and so it is
2:03:17
poetic and it's fitting that this would
2:03:19
be the last column that I would write
2:03:22
and edit for the truth always wants to
2:03:27
come out it's so fitting this would be
2:03:29
the last column I'd write for I mean
2:03:31
fitting that this would be the last
2:03:33
column that I'd write edit for him and
2:03:37
this is long silence turn attea I
2:03:39
appreciate you joining us thank you the
2:03:41
video is great it's in the show notes
2:03:43
any show knows calm you can see she
2:03:45
realizes she made a mistake and she does
2:03:47
this big gulp in Anderson just looking
2:03:50
out at all starry-eyed wouldn't surprise
2:03:51
me that he was in front for somebody
2:03:55
else's writing yeah she was ghost
2:03:57
writing for him that wouldn't surprise
2:03:58
me it's not unusual you have some brand
2:04:01
name person right next thing you know
2:04:03
they have a column and somehow they've
2:04:05
become pretty good writers how does that
2:04:07
work it's not that easy let me I mean
2:04:09
it's easy to just to write aimlessly but
2:04:12
to piece things together so they're well
2:04:14
structured and you're not all you know
2:04:16
mess right it's not that easy and at the
2:04:18
end turns out with most editors and a
2:04:21
lot of them will tell you this too
2:04:22
it's I feel this way myself sometimes
2:04:25
it's easier for me just to write you
2:04:27
somebody wants to write something in the
2:04:29
right let me just do it oh I'm not
2:04:33
arguing and but you put all the pieces
2:04:36
together he's on he's a cover of Time
2:04:38
magazine a columnist who wrote for a
2:04:40
little over a year probably didn't write
2:04:42
his own material as you point out what
2:04:49
what is what why why what's symbol why
2:04:52
is this being played up in particular by
2:04:54
everything connected to the Washington
2:04:56
Post what isn't what is no idea but I
2:04:59
think that if the first Eclipse that you
2:05:02
had are worth considering by the night
2:05:05
clips but the discussion of that woman
2:05:07
who is investigative reporter wits with
2:05:09
creds yeah that this was an operation
2:05:13
cuz you know MBS did arrest like had
2:05:20
most of these people and they the only
2:05:23
time that we've heard that oh they're
2:05:24
all associated with him yeah well we got
2:05:26
that from our news sources and it could
2:05:29
be bullcrap
2:05:30
I've never heard it from him no and and
2:05:33
they're probably gonna be executed now
2:05:37
the question that comes to mind
2:05:38
immediately is how does the the Muslim
2:05:41
Brotherhood get inside the aunt the
2:05:43
consulate the way they did this guy and
2:05:48
kill him without the consulate being
2:05:51
implicit which is possible because the
2:05:53
Muslim Brotherhood is like it they're
2:05:56
everywhere
2:05:56
yeah they're everywhere on this lake is
2:05:58
subversive operation well but we've only
2:06:01
heard a story an historian we don't know
2:06:04
anything right but Trudeau back to the
2:06:06
interview with Trudeau was asked about
2:06:08
this and just listen how the story is
2:06:10
now fact I want to move to another thing
2:06:13
that happened at the g20 when you took
2:06:14
some time to meet with the the Saudi
2:06:16
prince the Saudi Crown Prince NBS did
2:06:18
you realize he had met with the Saudi
2:06:20
prince what an outrage I can't believe
2:06:23
did he shake his hand this is an outrage
2:06:25
he raised the issue of rice Badawi his
2:06:28
sister Jamal khashoggi and the war in
2:06:31
Yemen how does a leader respond to
2:06:34
another leader coming up to him and
2:06:36
saying listen we have some problems here
2:06:38
how does he respond to that
2:06:40
assuming that he did that I think that
2:06:42
very much depends on the the way things
2:06:46
are phrased and my my frame in all cases
2:06:51
on the world stage is Canada wants to be
2:06:54
helpful in moving us towards a better
2:06:56
place as a planet it's never a situation
2:06:58
of you know imagining that we can you
2:07:02
know stand there and tell another
2:07:05
country what what to do or how to do it
2:07:07
it's saying like it would be great if
2:07:09
you were to do this and we would be we
2:07:11
could be helpful in moving forward in a
2:07:14
constructive way how do you say to the
2:07:15
crown prince
2:07:16
we're pretty sure you were involved in
2:07:18
the killing of an innocent journalist
2:07:20
though we said we need we need better
2:07:21
answers on that we need better
2:07:23
accountability the killing of a
2:07:25
journalist is something that is
2:07:26
extremely serious to Canadians to me his
2:07:30
response to you saying that with you
2:07:31
knowing full well what you know about
2:07:33
the intelligence behind it oh wait a
2:07:36
minute
2:07:36
apparently he's been read into this
2:07:38
report that never was published at the
2:07:40
CIA denies
2:07:43
that's what she said to you saying that
2:07:46
with you knowing full well what you know
2:07:48
about the intelligence behind it his his
2:07:51
response is look we're happy to continue
2:07:53
to work and and get more information and
2:07:57
more proof and if you have no proof or
2:07:59
information you know continue to provide
2:08:01
it so that's exactly do you roll your
2:08:03
eyes at that point being a leader on the
2:08:08
world stage involves having an ability
2:08:10
to engage with all types of people
2:08:13
without letting you know personal
2:08:16
personal feelings you overtake ones
2:08:19
involuntary movements yeah you know why
2:08:22
he's okay involuntary movement he's full
2:08:25
of crap the reason why he's not doing
2:08:27
anything is because of the arms deal
2:08:29
that Kanak and the Naevia has with Saudi
2:08:31
Arabia oh maybe we should put some
2:08:34
pressure on the president Trudeau
2:08:38
president Prime Minister reporter asked
2:08:43
Anatomy yes actually you said you also
2:08:47
made it clear to the Crown Prince that
2:08:48
Canada stands up for human rights how
2:08:51
can you say that to him knowing that we
2:08:53
are still selling those light armoured
2:08:55
vehicles is there not a contradiction in
2:08:57
that oh you know this is a question that
2:08:59
comes up not just in regards to now I'm
2:09:01
just trying to trying to wrap my head
2:09:03
around this question so Canada stands
2:09:06
for human rights I think what she means
2:09:08
is because we stand for human rights we
2:09:11
won't allow any business dealings with
2:09:14
Saudi Arabia because they killed a
2:09:15
journalist but the actual business
2:09:17
dealing is about weaponry that helps
2:09:21
kill people so where is the human rights
2:09:24
in this it's very I can't put my head
2:09:27
around the whole concept that's truly
2:09:32
this is the definition of irony right
2:09:34
here it clear to the Crown Prince that
2:09:35
Canada stands up for human rights how
2:09:37
can you say that to him knowing that we
2:09:40
are still selling those light armored
2:09:41
vehicles is there not a contradiction in
2:09:43
that oh you know this is a question that
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comes out not just in regards to Saudi
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Arabia but in regards to a broader range
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of array of countries that have
2:09:51
different different levels of defense of
2:09:55
human rights than Canadians having
2:09:57
Canadians expect you know we try to look
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for constructive ways to have
2:10:01
relationships that lead us to being able
2:10:04
to be very frank on human rights while
2:10:07
at the same time look for a way where
2:10:09
you're not you know sort of shaking your
2:10:11
fist at someone and saying you've got to
2:10:13
change you know in an expectation yeah
2:10:16
please everyone yell and scream that the
2:10:18
United States does have to act that way
2:10:20
what a douche that alone will will have
2:10:24
them contract impossible to break yeah
2:10:28
there are there are reflections on going
2:10:30
around can we break the contract
2:10:31
oh there's reflections going around so
2:10:34
why just so I'm clear though that the
2:10:35
contract could be broken possible the as
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I highlighted the contract has
2:10:40
particular provisions both for
2:10:42
confidentiality and
2:10:44
and significant penalties in the
2:10:46
billions of dollars and it was a
2:10:49
contract that was signed by the previous
2:10:52
government and we are looking at it in
2:10:54
other words we're not gonna be stupid
2:10:56
we're not gonna call for end to arm
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sales like the idiots in America and the
2:11:00
United States that'll be stupid
2:11:02
no we're just gonna keep selling it very
2:11:04
good and of course we have the question
2:11:08
about the tape and we all know that
2:11:10
everyone's been read in everyone's head
2:11:12
has heard a copy we all know what's
2:11:14
going on but yet
2:11:17
is there really a tape have you heard
2:11:19
the tape or have you been briefed on
2:11:21
what that had been its briefed on what
2:11:22
yeah this and what was that like yeah
2:11:25
obviously it's it's it's something that
2:11:29
intelligence communities have taken and
2:11:32
listened to and work with and is part of
2:11:34
our reflection and getting real answers
2:11:36
but is it could you characterize it for
2:11:38
me I'm not going to characterize that
2:11:39
horrific there's no tape why wouldn't
2:11:47
they hear if I was part of this scheme
2:11:49
whatever the scheme is I'd just get a
2:11:52
bunch of actors together and produce a
2:11:54
tape cut the guys somebody's screaming
2:11:59
another guy you know then muffled it so
2:12:01
it sounds like you know it's like in
2:12:03
some guys pocket the microphone it
2:12:05
sounds like it's too hard to produce a
2:12:07
tape unless it's a videotape that would
2:12:09
be tough well where's the videotape you
2:12:12
know what there is there's nothing
2:12:13
there's nothing very beginning they said
2:12:15
there was a video it's not even a body
2:12:17
if you don't have a body
2:12:18
there's nothing it's just a story but
2:12:21
the story is on Time magazine where the
2:12:23
columnist becomes a journalist once you
2:12:25
take a bullet to the head even though he
2:12:27
didn't take no bullet to the head just
2:12:31
call yourself a journalist skip the
2:12:35
bullet part and just just call yourself
2:12:38
well anyway
2:12:40
I find this very strange and I still
2:12:42
hopefully Sibel Edmonds will come up
2:12:44
with more stuff but it's nothing that
2:12:48
something is very very wrong with this
2:12:50
and this and it just brought it all back
2:12:51
when we got it on the with this Time
2:12:54
magazine cover
2:12:57
yeah
2:13:00
well let's see what we got here I got a
2:13:02
transitional flip is what we like watch
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I'm da listen to this this is a guy I
2:13:07
don't even know who this guy is I've
2:13:09
seen him before some conspiracy guy it
2:13:11
was on some very strange Twitter account
2:13:14
which is like one of these queue but
2:13:16
it's not quite a queue anon type thing
2:13:18
and it's this guy explaining the he goes
2:13:23
I just find it fascinating because
2:13:25
there's so many holes in this story and
2:13:27
it doesn't really make any sense and
2:13:29
it's almost worth discussing just
2:13:30
because it's so crazy this is the
2:13:32
crackpot burg this guy talks about
2:13:35
Bergdahl and how it's a background on
2:13:38
everything that's going on and what's
2:13:39
really happening in the baby some of it
2:13:42
might be true some of it doesn't make
2:13:43
any sense but please crackpot clip the
2:13:46
real reason behind Bergdahl's release
2:13:48
Bergdahl was released in exchange for
2:13:51
five Taliban generals in order to cover
2:13:54
up the Obama Hillary Stinger missile
2:13:57
sales to Libya so here's the real story
2:14:01
ambassador Stevens were sent to Benghazi
2:14:04
to secretly retrieve US made Stinger
2:14:07
missiles that the State Department had
2:14:09
supplied to Ansar al-sharia in Libya
2:14:12
without congressional oversight or
2:14:15
permission Secretary of State Hillary
2:14:17
Clinton had brokered the Libya deal
2:14:20
through ambassador Stevens and a private
2:14:23
arms dealer named Mark Tory but some of
2:14:26
the shoulder-fired Stinger missiles
2:14:28
ended up in Afghanistan where they were
2:14:30
used against our own military on July
2:14:34
25th 2012 a u.s. Chinook helicopter was
2:14:37
downed by one of them not destroyed only
2:14:40
because the idiot Taliban didn't arm the
2:14:43
missile the helicopter didn't explode
2:14:46
but it had to land and and ordnance
2:14:49
disposal team recovered the missile
2:14:52
serial number which led back to a cache
2:14:54
of Stinger missiles kept in Qatar by the
2:14:57
CIA Obama and Hillary were in full panic
2:15:01
mode so ambassador Stevens was sent to
2:15:05
Benghazi to retrieve the rest of the
2:15:07
Stinger missiles this was a do or die
2:15:10
mission which explains the state
2:15:13
down orders given to multiple rescue
2:15:15
teams during the siege of the US Embassy
2:15:18
it was not the State Department not the
2:15:21
CIA that supplied the Stinger missiles
2:15:23
to our sworn enemies because General
2:15:26
Petraeus at CIA would not approve
2:15:29
supplying the deadly missiles due to
2:15:32
their potential use against commercial
2:15:33
aircraft
2:15:34
so then Obama threw General Petraeus
2:15:37
under the bus when he refused to testify
2:15:40
in support of Obama's phony claim that a
2:15:43
spontaneous uprising caused by a youtube
2:15:46
video that insulted Muslims Obama and
2:15:51
Hillary committed treason this is what
2:15:53
the investigation is all about why she
2:15:56
had a private server in order to delete
2:15:59
the digital evidence you know this not
2:16:02
so crackpot I've heard this theory and I
2:16:04
I know I can't remember the guys name
2:16:06
who does this podcast this is on YouTube
2:16:09
I think it sounds very plausible and
2:16:12
this is what I will say that what's
2:16:15
Bergdahl and the five generals from the
2:16:18
Taliban have to do with any of it
2:16:22
that part I'm not so sure about he
2:16:27
throws that in at the very beginning
2:16:28
yeah give us the I'm not sure I'm not
2:16:30
sure why I hear that kind of thing I'm
2:16:33
thinking of this is a this is one of
2:16:35
those things where you start to throw
2:16:36
your throwing throwing a chum in the
2:16:39
water with kind of screwball stuffing
2:16:41
and if you take this thing apart piece
2:16:44
by piece by pieces you realize that it
2:16:46
none of it makes any sense I think this
2:16:48
guy's completely full of crap my stick
2:16:50
by our old thesis would do was a it was
2:16:52
a kidnapping gone astray
2:16:57
the Stinger missiles story the truth I'd
2:16:59
like to get some evidence for that
2:17:00
there's any evidence today that I one of
2:17:03
these choppers was brought down by a
2:17:05
dead missile that hit the thing apart I
2:17:07
don't know like no that happens and
2:17:11
bounced off or anything okay so what's
2:17:15
your point
2:17:15
so you think of the this is a conspiracy
2:17:17
theory you think it's full of crap yeah
2:17:20
okay I've heard it I've heard the serial
2:17:23
number stuff I have not looked at it
2:17:25
because at this point what does it
2:17:27
matter no agenda imagine all the people
2:17:32
who could do with us oh yeah
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can't hear you what at this point what
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difference does it make that's what
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that's what I needed to say yeah
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or I think she says
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yeah she puts
2:17:53
the way she phrases it is just a little
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different here is Cola here it is what
2:18:01
difference at this point does it make
2:18:03
there it is head yeah what difference at
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this point does it make
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Jeff McReynolds is our top producer in
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super short 1094 $148 21 says from Heath
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it's almost too delicious to believe my
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friends everyone's going nuts about it
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you've got karma maybe that's all right
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so for today so I had the that's a good
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it's very funny it's too bad the cookies
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there's a couple of manufacturers in San
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interesting and anticipating Adam
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we announced that yeah yeah it's an
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the list okay sir Corwin Underwood and
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actually he actually I have it here he
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needed yeah he said in the morning
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crackpot and buzzkill if you wouldn't
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we break for barons unfortunately
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ten years but they had no problem doing
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it and are very happy and I think we're
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knighting a couple of them today also
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some notes got a another emergency jobs
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karma from sir Peep Slayer could really
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use it be sure to tell the douchebags
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out there they need to chip in or go
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piss up a rope okay we'll do that in a
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meet up no do an immediate jobs jobs and
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you've got karma we did we get the
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carpet mediately meet up sir will code
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for coffee a night obviously proud
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producer he says would you mind
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announcing a meet up Levi breed or land
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and I are trying to rage an Edmonton
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Alberta January 19th that's interesting
2:33:49
is it really cold in Alberta Oh
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are you nuts but coming give us an
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Alberta once in July and it was snowing
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a Tina night Tina has some days but
2:34:00
she's carrying over into January and
2:34:01
yeah we're looking for some well the
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19th and may not be a good to 19th might
2:34:06
not work the 19th of January and he'll
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murder that's where I want to go I think
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it's one of the cutest little towns in
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Canada it's not like you know a
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spectacular beauty like Victoria which
2:34:23
is something to see or even hotter
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what's quite nice it's kind of grimy and
2:34:28
a funny kind of Midwestern way and they
2:34:29
have a lot of underground stuff going on
2:34:31
but it's something quaint and nice about
2:34:33
it Edmonton I've always liked Edmonton
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hmm well it's scheduled for the
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nomini will jump in as well then we have
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from Sir ladyfingers Baron of the Miami
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Valley a peerage dispute Adam I
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discovered that my Protectorate of the
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the latest executive / associate
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please redress this alarming situation
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hmm I'm willing to sum some document I
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well I got one here this doesn't get a
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lot of play anywhere but this is like a
2:38:00
disgusting story and this was on this
2:38:04
was on CBS but it wasn't on the nightly
2:38:07
news at least maybe it was on the
2:38:09
yesterday's but I didn't get it I got it
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it was like an add-on if you go to the
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website they have these extra stories
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that you can watch that looks like they
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were supposed to be produced mostly they
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were produced for the news but they were
2:38:19
never used yeah and this is the
2:38:21
Rockefeller or in this case Rick at
2:38:24
Feller Hospital scandal patients and
2:38:27
relatives of those treated at a famous
2:38:28
Research Hospital here in New York are
2:38:31
looking for answers tonight they want to
2:38:33
know why Rockefeller University stayed
2:38:35
quiet about a prominent doctor who died
2:38:37
11 years ago but is believed to abused
2:38:39
children for decades victims could
2:38:41
number over a thousand which would
2:38:44
potentially make it the largest case of
2:38:46
sexual abuse by one person in US history
2:38:48
more on this now from hannah warner and
2:38:50
a warning some of the details you're
2:38:52
about to hear are graphic he was revered
2:38:55
like a god he was Matt Harris was one of
2:38:58
thousands of former patients who saw dr.
2:39:00
Reginald Archibald as children at the
2:39:03
prestigious Rockefeller Institute in New
2:39:05
York City Archibald was a highly
2:39:07
regarded growth specialist who said he
2:39:09
could help children who were not
2:39:10
maturing like their peers
2:39:13
he was like gonna be our family family's
2:39:15
Savior Archibald's research was supposed
2:39:18
to help kids grow taller but these
2:39:20
former patients told us he sexually
2:39:22
abused them Harris was 14
2:39:25
Gail Coleman was 11 Robert Granato was 8
2:39:29
and Mitchell sure was just five the
2:39:32
entire time you were in the room there
2:39:34
with him you're naked
2:39:34
he took his finger and he pushed one of
2:39:38
my nipples and he basically proceeded to
2:39:41
to masturbate me he would rub me there
2:39:44
and started asking me does this feel
2:39:46
good in a statement in October officials
2:39:49
revealed they'd investigated a complaint
2:39:51
about Archibald inappropriate conduct in
2:39:53
2004 and reported it to authorities but
2:39:56
they also found complaints going back to
2:39:58
the 1990s some deemed credible attorney
2:40:01
Jennifer Freeman says her firm has had
2:40:04
hundreds of
2:40:05
and so what does that say to you that
2:40:07
says that there are a tremendous number
2:40:08
of victims out there it was played a
2:40:11
year after I saw I started seeing them
2:40:13
yet these former patients say they never
2:40:16
heard anything from the hospital until
2:40:18
officials there sent out this letter in
2:40:20
October to more than a thousand of
2:40:22
Archibald's former patients asking for
2:40:24
information I got the letter and all of
2:40:28
a sudden I felt like I was flashing back
2:40:31
50 years ago
2:40:32
it was burned in my brain what he did to
2:40:36
me what do you make of the hospital
2:40:37
statements I am outraged outraged and
2:40:42
Gayle Coleman says she's particularly
2:40:44
angry because the doctor took pictures
2:40:46
she and the others were told to stand
2:40:48
without clothing like the children in
2:40:51
these old studies while he took polaroid
2:40:53
photos of their naked bodies those
2:40:55
pictures are what has haunted me through
2:40:59
the years in 2003 she contacted the
2:41:02
hospital looking for answers and I got
2:41:05
my medical records back and there were
2:41:06
no pictures and that tells me they
2:41:09
weren't for medical research they were
2:41:12
for him was something like this happens
2:41:14
to you you kind of robbed of hope
2:41:15
robbed of you know trusting people
2:41:17
trusting institutions trusting humanity
2:41:21
they had to know something was going on
2:41:23
so if the hospital comes out and says
2:41:24
well nobody inside our Hospital knew
2:41:27
what he was doing I don't want blame I
2:41:29
can't believe that the hospital has to
2:41:31
take some responsibility for this oh my
2:41:34
god this is the bums me out this is
2:41:37
almost like the clip we had on the last
2:41:41
show with the transgender in children
2:41:45
yeah well the thing is I'm with these
2:41:48
people say that the hot date somebody
2:41:50
had to know something this is bullcrap
2:41:51
just like the Jimmy Savile thing yeah
2:41:54
this is and where is this guy right now
2:41:57
dead Oh
2:42:01
just like jimmy savile yeah how long has
2:42:04
he been dead
2:42:04
I think he died in 2011 seven years
2:42:10
I thanks I'm totally grossed out now
2:42:12
that is gross hey funny and I don't
2:42:15
think CBS ran and the regular news cuz
2:42:17
it's good for that reason to grow it's a
2:42:19
disgusting story you guys getting away
2:42:22
with this you know all I'm gonna show
2:42:24
how to grow here look you're growing now
2:42:26
I mean the whole thing is gross and it's
2:42:28
like
2:42:30
nobody's noticing nobody there's been
2:42:33
complaints and nobody pays attention to
2:42:34
it
2:42:36
I don't know I did get an - speaking of
2:42:40
it call-out pedophiles from get playing
2:42:42
Santa Claus and Macy's
2:42:45
yeah it's a what's your point well the
2:42:48
thing is I mean well but who's going
2:42:50
after the real pedophile doctor Santa
2:42:52
but this guy well he's dead you know
2:42:55
well we're going after him now
2:42:57
like Savile yeah I I don't like this
2:43:00
clip all right I did get a very
2:43:02
thoughtful note from Ally
2:43:07
you know Ali she's the official no
2:43:09
agenda tranny
2:43:12
okay call me from
2:43:14
I don't know I think she's in some
2:43:17
Midwestern state although she sent me
2:43:19
the note she said note here from the
2:43:21
official No Agenda tranny
2:43:23
I'm sorry now known as the transgendered
2:43:27
person now he can't say tranny and she
2:43:33
says something that made me think about
2:43:34
what's really going on with the identity
2:43:36
politics particularly when it comes to
2:43:38
transgendered people
2:43:39
yes transgendered people and this was I
2:43:43
think in response to the clip of the the
2:43:46
Los Angeles clinic that was you know
2:43:49
stopping puberty for kids as young as
2:43:52
six or seven to help them understand who
2:43:55
they are before they continue with the
2:43:56
with the the write puberty we have
2:43:58
entitled the show after that so Ali Jade
2:44:02
says I agree with you on the internet
2:44:05
social media influencing transgender
2:44:07
cases but not all are and here's her
2:44:09
point I am 31 and I just kind of
2:44:13
questioned whatever the hell I was
2:44:15
without the internet or any outside
2:44:17
influences my parents were religious and
2:44:19
conservative I'm not alone
2:44:20
and here's the thing a lot of us older
2:44:23
generations that came before the social
2:44:25
media blast started churning out all the
2:44:27
letters added to LGBT personally most of
2:44:31
us older ones do not like the loud
2:44:34
annoying trans social generation our
2:44:37
goal was to move into a normal life in
2:44:40
her case as a woman not to live life as
2:44:43
a transgendered person and and it was
2:44:46
something that I've been that it was in
2:44:47
my mind I guess for a long time it's
2:44:49
like if you are transgendered and you
2:44:52
truly believe that you were you were
2:44:54
born in the wrong body and you need to
2:44:57
become a man or a woman then you just
2:45:00
become a man or a woman isn't that the
2:45:01
whole point but why then is there this
2:45:05
huge group that wants to identify as
2:45:07
kind of stuck in between
2:45:10
you know Tim you're asking me well it's
2:45:13
kind of rhetorical it's just it seems
2:45:15
like that is it's so wrong if you you're
2:45:19
either man or woman I'm just going by
2:45:21
today's social justice warrior
2:45:22
notifications and if you're transgender
2:45:25
a great I believe that I'm a woman and
2:45:27
then I'm gonna dress like a woman gonna
2:45:29
act like a woman I may have my body
2:45:31
changed to be a woman then I'm a woman
2:45:34
stop calling them transgendered unless
2:45:36
you're I mean you're really separating
2:45:38
people do you know I mean it feels very
2:45:40
wrong
2:45:42
the point is to create oppressed classes
2:45:45
yeah that's what identity politics is
2:45:48
well it's working yeah of course it is
2:45:51
and people should reject it that really
2:45:53
should be well thought out schemes yeah
2:45:56
and by the way it's Trump's fault
2:46:00
hello we all know that Keith I was an
2:46:04
easy one orange man bad
2:46:07
all right break sit still on the
2:46:10
cliffhanger as to what's going to happen
2:46:12
Theresa may still hanging on to power
2:46:14
but now they can't do anything about her
2:46:17
power for the next 12 months you know
2:46:18
that when they do a no comment no
2:46:20
confidence that she gets through then
2:46:21
she gets through exactly when she get
2:46:23
through it and you're good to go for the
2:46:25
next year I would have voted no
2:46:27
confidence right off the bat the minute
2:46:30
I heard her in the prime minister
2:46:32
question time when she answered this
2:46:34
question I would have said no confidence
2:46:36
kick her out knowing you for 20 years I
2:46:39
just don't believe that if your deal
2:46:42
goes down you are the kind of person who
2:46:45
would contemplate taking this country
2:46:48
into a no deal situation am I wrong the
2:46:53
decision it abused issue the Parliament
2:46:55
as to whether they accept the deal that
2:46:57
I am the government of negotiated on
2:46:58
behalf of the United Kingdom with the
2:47:01
European Union the one she negotiated on
2:47:05
behalf of the European Union I mean this
2:47:08
is one of the thesis of people that dude
2:47:10
are new listeners of this show we have a
2:47:13
theory that continues to pay dividends
2:47:16
yep which is that the truth must always
2:47:18
come out it has it there's a background
2:47:20
for it that gives us it gives us belief
2:47:24
that this is probably true and that is
2:47:27
people will slip up I guess it was used
2:47:30
to be called a Freudian slip and then
2:47:31
never laughed it off as a joke hahaha
2:47:34
Freudian slip but this action what's
2:47:37
going on is they're saying things that
2:47:39
maybe that they were telling us reality
2:47:42
accidentally because they can't hold it
2:47:44
hold it it always wants to come out it
2:47:47
always wants to come out it's it's a
2:47:48
fact
2:47:49
yeah so she's working on behalf of the
2:47:51
EU of course she is we've got a quick
2:47:53
OTG this is another study it will not
2:47:56
surprise you but it's always fun to
2:47:58
bring you the facts some studies suggest
2:48:00
adolescents and young adults exchange
2:48:03
sixty to a hundred text messages a day
2:48:05
but what about at night when they're
2:48:08
sleeping well apparently the texting
2:48:10
doesn't stop there either it's called
2:48:13
sleep texting really a new study from a
2:48:20
Villanova College of Nursing professor
2:48:22
says a growing number of college
2:48:24
students are texting friends in the wee
2:48:26
hours of the night with no recollection
2:48:28
of having done so more than 25% of the
2:48:32
kids surveyed said they texted in their
2:48:34
sleep 72 percent of them say they don't
2:48:38
remember doing it people have gotten
2:48:40
used to sleeping next to their devices
2:48:41
so subconsciously people are falling up
2:48:44
to sleep and there may be some angst
2:48:46
about communicating with someone and
2:48:47
trying to get a message to someone and
2:48:49
they're reaching for the phone and
2:48:51
communicating in this kind of altered
2:48:54
state of consciousness the problem here
2:48:56
say experts is that sleep texting causes
2:48:58
interrupted sleep which can affect
2:49:01
someone mentally physically and more it
2:49:04
affects you emotionally because people
2:49:06
become more anxious and more depressed
2:49:07
when they haven't had enough sleep and
2:49:09
now sleep texting appears to be more
2:49:12
frequent the solutions say experts ditch
2:49:15
the phone and the electronics get them
2:49:17
out of the bedroom and give your brain
2:49:19
the rest it needs I gotta tell you if
2:49:23
your sleep texting you are definitely an
2:49:26
NPC in the game
2:49:28
you're just running your program no I
2:49:32
want to mention a couple of things one
2:49:34
is that people unfortunately use these
2:49:36
stupid phones as their alarm clocks yes
2:49:39
so they're not getting them out of the
2:49:41
bedroom I just story I'm gonna follow up
2:49:43
on some later date on the alarm clock
2:49:46
side of it I lined up on this whole
2:49:48
story whether it's Lou texting hmm
2:49:50
gotcha it's ethical all right everybody
2:49:54
a couple more days and then we'll let's
2:49:57
see what's happening with Sunday's
2:49:58
deconstruction there's a lot happening
2:50:00
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