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1195: Iranahams

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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December 1st, 2019
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Executive Producers: Anonymous Duke, Sir Savor of the Yadkin Valley Grapes, Earl of Luna Sir Kevin McLaughlin, Tom Whittaker, Sir JD Baron of Silly Con Valley

Associate Executive Producers: Dame Zelda of the Turtle Realm, Sir Not a Dame Bara, Knight Bruce, Chris G

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    climate shouts atom curry Jhansi Dvorak
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    Sunday December 1st 2019 this is your
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    award-winning game Oh nation media
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    assassination episode 11 95 this is no
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    agenda in the morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm now a big fan of
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    Weetabix with little maple syrup
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    I'm Johnny the boy Weetabix what's next
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    Marmite Weetabix kids grow up on that
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    that's what kids in the UK grow up on is
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    Weetabix Weetabix my way to mix yeah we
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    mix is also made in Canada and sold here
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    once in a while I don't know where I've
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    only found it by accident but or as the
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    kids would say on accident I still don't
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    understand the clouds the kids so I
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    looked into it it's actually an
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    Australian product called wheat - Bix
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    yeah that was the two guys who invented
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    it that was sold out from under them
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    they moved to South Africa started up a
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    company called Weetabix and then they
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    moved that to England eventually and
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    that's really oh and a private this goes
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    back to the 20s
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    Wow I would say that there's a Lanham
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    Act issue with weet-bix and Weetabix
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    it's too close it's too close yeah you
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    know you should try that with some of
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    that Shanksville maple syrup well I used
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    maple syrup but I don't open every maple
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    syrup that comes along right away I had
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    to that is outstanding I'm sure it is
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    you understand it to us it's just it's
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    too small Pennsylvania's and it probably
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    makes us distinctive maple syrup because
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    it's it's you know these different areas
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    make the trees or they taste different
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    yeah well yes I've licked many a tree
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    and I can agree they taste very
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    different
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    anyway of Lix embarked myself yeah you
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    know the that's where that's where the
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    DMT comes from from tree bark yeah yeah
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    the DMT tree yes and you gotta have a
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    druid who knows how to do it but that's
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    that's where the good stuff comes from
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    is from the tree hey thanks for the
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    newsletter that was really nice
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    oh you're welcome yeah I thought you
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    were gonna be in Holland today the
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    newsletter was kind of misleading well
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    not really I mean it would have
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    corrected you a discount it made sense I
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    guess it was just confusing if you
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    didn't know exactly what's going on yeah
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    I leave this week and I arrive Thursday
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    morning I sleep like early I think I
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    explained this on the show maybe I
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    wasn't clear so fly Wednesday arrive
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    early Thursday sleep do the prep then do
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    the show sleep and then Friday we have
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    everything going on okay and then I have
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    to stay the weekend otherwise it's
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    $6,000 why they still doing it well if
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    you stay a Saturday you cost less what
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    is up with that closed load-balancing
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    obviously but on the backs of the
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    passengers I don't know it doesn't make
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    sense to me well we might as well start
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    with my unsafe airline clip then hold on
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    a second
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    since I'm flying anyway to replicate the
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    real-life panic of an onboard emergency
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    smoke fills the cabin as the lights
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    suddenly go out now under orders from
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    Congress to set minimum seat size
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    standards the FAA is looking at whether
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    smaller seats actually pose a threat we
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    want to see a varying seat pigeon width
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    has any influence or affect on the time
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    it takes to evacuate an aircraft but
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    critics say the tests up till now had
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    been flawed no one grabs for an overhead
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    bag there are no children elderly or
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    disabled participants and very few are
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    obese the dilemma three out of four
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    Americans are now overweight yet the
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    airlines have been shrinking sizes for
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    years from 35 inches down to 31 inches
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    and less today a lot of it comes down to
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    plain and simple comfort but number one
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    should be safety if we can't get out
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    during an emergency evacuation then
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    people are really in trouble the new FAA
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    test involves 60 volunteers at a time
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    ages 18 to 60 still no children disabled
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    or elderly but the FAA promises the test
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    should better
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    reflect America's Wade demographic
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    aircraft manufacturers must prove that
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    every passenger can get out of a plane
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    within 90 seconds with half the exits
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    blocked the question tonight is whether
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    too close for comfort is also too close
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    for safety so there was a couple things
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    ahead and realize thinking about that or
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    listening to that clip one is children
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    disabled and elderly wow that they will
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    hamper my exit
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    probably we should put him in their own
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    section well that's an idea but I've got
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    an idea that I've floated a few times
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    which Noah's likes you should and I
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    think this is the most logical thing to
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    do with the airline fees is you should
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    charge by the pound yes I have heard
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    this in in the past but the still that
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    doesn't mean that I won't have you know
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    a child hampering my emergency exit okay
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    you can pick the kid up and move in
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    because you caged the kids put him
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    downstairs
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    everybody wins parents win - yeah well I
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    see you're just being flippant I'm
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    actually serious about my by the pound
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    thing because it's all calculated by the
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    pound of weight do how much fuel it
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    takes to move X number of pounds hmm
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    yeah yeah you're noting that moment I'm
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    thinking about it but no I mean no a
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    little fly CB aren't fun and some of
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    these little puddle jumpers you get on
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    they go from here to there yeah they do
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    way you before you you know on some of
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    these flights times yeah sometimes
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    I don't know I think the way we charge
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    is just fine the fact that they're
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    overcharging is not so fine and that
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    we're charging for a weekend that's what
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    I want someone to tell us why that is
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    taking place
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    it's load balancing I'm telling you I
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    just told you I neglected to say or to
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    mention something which I think I do
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    every year on the last show Thanksgiving
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    is Black Friday and how in the in recent
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    years the anti-american United States of
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    Europe has picked this up black fly have
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    clips very good I'll finish my statement
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    have picked this up and and actually in
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    every language they call it Black Friday
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    it's not as far to Friday in Dutch no
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    you hear like in the Black Friday
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    Kumba ham you know that's that's one way
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    to hear it and it's in the media that
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    everyone calls it Black Friday and I
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    think what what what happened is
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    everyone is so wrapped up in the
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    Commerce of it and the fact that it's
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    Black Friday that they forgot to warn
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    people there'd be a lot of people out
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    there a lot of people congregating and
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    it could be nefarious actors roaming
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    around trying to cause to wreak havoc
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    there were no warnings well no well this
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    Black Friday thing first showed up in on
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    our show when two years ago when I was
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    in England for Thanksgiving yes ah
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    that's right that's right I thought I
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    was imported back dead because I was
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    stunned I was screwed there was Black
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    Friday cuz the day after Thanksgiving
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    Friday I'm thinking puts black for what
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    watch this is an American thing and then
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    I would if I recall the report was that
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    it's Amazon that was behind promoting
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    Black Friday in Europe oh that would
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    make sense and you had to get everyone
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    didn't ya to get people jacked up so
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    they can have Cyber Monday I think
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    that's a long-term goal but I didn't
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    realize at the time that this had been
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    going on and when I reported on it this
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    has been going on in many parts of
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    Europe and this report from DW describes
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    the whole situation this is Black Friday
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    DW report love it or leave it
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    Black Friday is part of the calendar now
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    a day of over-the-top deals and big
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    retailer hopes this year's been no
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    difference although some participants
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    are in a less than festive mood Santa
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    Claus in Los Angeles makes it obvious to
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    one and all for Black Friday's about
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    christmas is just around the corner so
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    by mountains of presents or just spoil
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    yourself but buy buy buy
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    Black Friday arrived in Europe years ago
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    like here in Paris where consumers are
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    also scrambling for bargains but this
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    year in Paris and many other European
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    cities climate activists have joined the
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    throngs they're making sure everyone
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    gets to hear their protests against
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    consumerism wasting of finite resources
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    and packaging some shops shut their
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    doors to stop the activists from
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    protesting inside many customers were
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    suddenly locked in and only a few were
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    allowed in at a time the climate
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    activists are calling it Black Friday
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    the idea being to block the shopping
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    spree to publicize their environmental
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    concerns
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    we're protesting against overconsumption
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    today we can consume but more fairly
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    more ethically so when you buy a handbag
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    don't get a new one every year to change
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    the color keep it last 10 or 15 years
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    from Black Friday back to the US and
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    Black Friday shoppers are more
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    interested in finding bargains than
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    worrying about climate change or the
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    downsides of consumerism you got up at
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    1:00 a.m. so you know the anticipation
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    that you see behind us there's a lot of
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    people who are aligned so you want to be
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    the first person to get what you want on
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    the Black Friday
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    traditionally Black Friday is the most
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    important sales day of the year the US
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    retail sector depends on it being a
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    success no nice climate change happened
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    with a bunch of climate change nut balls
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    in front of like you know one of these
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    Black Friday things you know at Walmart
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    it would be unbelievable they get the
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    crap beat out of them yeah they'd be
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    trampled but this is the European way of
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    course but it's been going on forever
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    apparently Paris was AB is a big Black
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    Friday operation I guess I don't know
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    but it's like a holiday and report on
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    that although the French members of
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    parliament did come out with a statement
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    there right in line with X R they want
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    to ban Black Friday because of resource
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    waste and overconsumption mentality that
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    you have to wonder about some of these
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    governments you need consumption in case
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    in an economic system like we run
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    everybody just stays home and just uses
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    old purses what is global warming have
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    to do with consumption I mean I could
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    see consumption know the overconsumption
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    everything you consume has a carbon
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    price attached to it realize this that
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    would have to be it although no that'd
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    have to be it so here's the Black Friday
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    report with not this one here's another
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    one that's this is the NBC one and I
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    have to
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    a local this one here they were looking
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    dis this is like I think this is a
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    native ad in disguised as a news report
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    and they lead this is a one of the most
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    I'd say heinous reports on Black Friday
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    because it's a report on Black Friday
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    and the retail and get out there and buy
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    stuff but it but they couch it as a
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    homeland security warning and then they
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    dropped a whole storyline of the
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    homeland security and just get into the
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    native ads selling stuff while you are
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    Iying the sales tonight a new warning
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    keep your eyes peeled for scams the
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    Department of Homeland Security wants
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    you to beware of fake websites while
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    shopping online sharing to examples and
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    red flags websites that have unusual
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    addresses or lack contact info adding if
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    the price is too good to be true it
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    probably is
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    but for many consumers there's no
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    stopping their shopping much of it
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    coming online
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    Black Friday saw a record high seven
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    point four billion dollars in online
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    sales nearly three billion of that
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    coming from smartphones alone flying off
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    the shelves this season and kids toys
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    paw patrol hello well surprise and
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    frozen to merchandise and electronics
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    including laptops Apple earpods and
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    big-screen TVs experts say this year
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    when searching for those deals the
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    calendar will actually work in your
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    favor
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    there's only 22 days between Cyber
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    Monday and Christmas which is six days
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    less than there were last year consumers
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    are going to reap the benefits of that
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    because retailers you're gonna see them
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    offering more sales starting sooner so
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    the sales have been worth it
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    but not all shoppers are leaving with a
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    full stocking on social media complaints
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    at Walmart after advertising a marked
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    down Apple watch abruptly canceled
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    orders saying they were out of stock
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    Walmart calls it a technical issue
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    saying those customers can reorder at
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    the same Black Friday price for shoppers
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    in Atlanta there's only one measure of
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    success this season with some deals so
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    Walmart had this overstock issue
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    [Music]
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    of these of these damn Apple watches and
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    they're like oh man what are we gonna do
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    by native ass yeah that is pretty what
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    was the word you used news report
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    disguised hmm I don't know no yeah I do
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    it was okay it'll come back to me he
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    used a good word in the intro to that
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    that's exactly what piece of shit I
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    think we could have said too it goes on
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    and they give drop this Walmart story it
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    is where she's got nothing to do with
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    homeland security and they drop this
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    Walmart thing at the end about it oh
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    yeah they ran out of the Apple watches
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    their discount their Sony's washes for
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    124 something $75 offer it's still an
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    expensive product but it's cheaper than
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    buying it from Apple and I'm wondering
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    what why Apple has to run stuff through
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    Walmart they also have a Costco
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    operation now now but they've gone
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    all-in man they're selling everywhere
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    they can't it's the ads that they're
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    doing on TV now the cocoa ads with the
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    with the telcos there's how they're
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    doing a lot by the way before I forget
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    pumping them out probably about 40 in
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    the next 14 days we'll have our annual
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    Secret Santa who pays off everybody shit
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    on layaway we'll have that one coming up
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    will it be for Walmart again because it
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    usually small at Walmart
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    yeah probably Walmart Walmart Walmart
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    Walmart yeah so they have that thing you
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    get the news report Oh everyone's on
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    layaway was paid off by a Secret Santa
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    yeah market maybe tourists coming just
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    as like you know these others things
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    always come let me see news story you
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    can expect year after year or month
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    after month or every six weeks or
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    whatever yeah it'll be some and it'll be
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    Walmart I'm trying to find one of those
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    older reports uh-huh
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    layaway no and he's mr. anonymous no
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    it's always some anonymous person who
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    pays everything off but what would we
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    have named a clip like that
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    oh I don't that's a tough one too oh yes
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    yes offering new incentives to attract
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    high school no that's not it damn I know
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    we have this I know we have one ago if
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    you started your Secret Santa you're
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    gonna spend too much time looking for it
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    okay there's not a lot and yeah okay
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    anyway we'll have a new one in a few
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    weeks
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    that's right yeah yeah well I think was
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    it five point four billion dollars done
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    online in the US that's pretty good that
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    seven something that was that was all of
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    last year wasn't it I don't know this
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    report was pre well anyway but Tina and
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    at least went out shopping in the
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    afternoon they said it was it was not
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    that it was okay but it wasn't crazy
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    people weren't killing each other I
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    think more of is just online I think
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    Amazon is right they pushed this and a
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    Walmart of course also has their online
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    whatever they bought did they buy
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    something for a billion dollars and
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    they're trying to catch up the Amazon
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    with it day yeah I bought some company
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    well good luck it has to be better we
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    had two of these companies really
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    competing as said just Amazon dominating
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    everything that they bought jet that's
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    what it was jet yeah do it
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    I'd like the climate change angle I do
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    have a couple of updates in the green
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    new deal corner and the first would be
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    that there was an article in a de JH the
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    Ad Age is still still meaningful for the
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    industry isn't it I believe so
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    advertising advertising age at a sad
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    week and advertising is those two yes ad
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    we can add age and their Advertising Age
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    tends to be the more old-fashioned more
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    traditional and I think better done
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    publication personally I agree back when
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    I was in the industry you would look
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    forward to ad ad week was more like
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    whose move and where who's you know
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    who's got a client who's pitching but at
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    age yeah I agree that's more a little
  • 18:23
    deeper in the industry well Aaron Hall
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    who I don't know if he writes for them
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    regularly but he's the group director of
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    naming a global brand strategy firm
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    Siegel and Gale who I don't know but
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    sounds impressive two names and he wrote
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    an op-ed in ad age renaming climate
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    change can a new name finally make us
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    take action and he starts off by saying
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    I was a professional neighbor I create
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    names for companies products and
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    services after the global climate strike
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    this past September I found myself
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    thinking about the terms climate change
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    in global warming are these scientific
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    terms which i think is funny by itself
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    are these scientific terms to neutral do
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    they do enough to grab attention and
  • 19:08
    inspire people to take action well I
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    don't need to read the rest of the
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    article except for some of the
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    highlights because obviously he's
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    looking at rebranding climate change and
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    getting his cohorts along for the ride
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    because there is a lot of climate
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    activists advertising going on it's what
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    we do money it's good money
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    not any money if you have the right
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    brand and the right branding whether
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    for a product that you want to
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    intertwine with climate change or you
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    just want to get some of that sweet
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    sweet government dollars you got to have
  • 19:39
    some good names so he set himself out
  • 19:42
    little strategy you know the way you do
  • 19:43
    it in advertising for reach the new name
  • 19:46
    needs to speak to a global threat
  • 19:47
    affecting 7.5 billion humans as such our
  • 19:51
    global team of neighbors from London New
  • 19:53
    York San Francisco and Shanghai
  • 19:55
    developed these new names the audience
  • 19:58
    I'm going to give a little advertising
  • 20:00
    spin to it this is briefing you know as
  • 20:03
    he's pitching to go in before you
  • 20:06
    continue I have not read this or you
  • 20:07
    this is all news to me and now he did he
  • 20:11
    address the fact that they've already
  • 20:13
    tried to change global warming to
  • 20:16
    climate crisis and climate emergence
  • 20:19
    he's completely ignored that because he
  • 20:21
    actually has some of that in his in his
  • 20:23
    pitch names he's actually not keeping up
  • 20:28
    no I think he ignored it purposefully
  • 20:30
    and he has a number of names and he
  • 20:33
    probably threw in some stuff just to
  • 20:34
    make it you know like oh that yeah I've
  • 20:37
    kind of heard that but we want something
  • 20:38
    better I think it's something to do do
  • 20:40
    you want to sell pair of shoes you show
  • 20:41
    someone the sandals the boots and then
  • 20:43
    the shoes you actually want him to buy
  • 20:45
    audience the brand needs to reach an
  • 20:48
    audience that isn't trained in
  • 20:49
    scientific terms it's like climate
  • 20:52
    change that's a scientific term we need
  • 20:55
    these folks to up these folks to
  • 20:58
    understand the severity of what's
  • 21:00
    happening to their planet and inspire
  • 21:01
    them to make more eco-friendly life
  • 21:03
    choices and pro climate choices at the
  • 21:06
    ballot box and the message there are
  • 21:09
    many possible themes tones and styles of
  • 21:12
    names to explore the name could signal
  • 21:14
    hope fear or change it could be a call
  • 21:19
    to action be more descriptive or use
  • 21:21
    familiar metaphors that emotionally
  • 21:23
    connect us to the issue with all of this
  • 21:25
    in mind our team of words myths
  • 21:27
    developed you can't charge for a name
  • 21:31
    like wordsmith
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    you never call you never call your
  • 21:35
    global name branding team wordsmiths
  • 21:38
    anyway with all of this in mind our team
  • 21:41
    of wordsmiths developed the following
  • 21:42
    new names for climate
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    change now I'll just give them to you if
  • 21:47
    you want a little further explanation I
  • 21:49
    can I can go into the to the pitch
  • 21:51
    paragraph but we'll start with the first
  • 21:53
    to global meltdown and global melting
  • 22:02
    wow what a lipsmack well let me tell you
  • 22:06
    this is interesting both of those are
  • 22:10
    terrible by the way so this guy I would
  • 22:13
    fire on the spot he has more so he has
  • 22:15
    more I'm just you're fired
  • 22:18
    but the reason I say that is because I
  • 22:21
    was talking to the lip Joes and a little
  • 22:24
    roundabout on the on the chatter to chat
  • 22:27
    mmm-hmm messaging yeah there are the RCS
  • 22:30
    yeah and and I was ridiculing this
  • 22:35
    stupid picture of Greta is this has been
  • 22:39
    put on the side of a building in San
  • 22:41
    Francisco and it's just huge head that's
  • 22:44
    just a monstrosity and it's just
  • 22:46
    frightening I think people should
  • 22:49
    protest the City Council is scaring kids
  • 22:54
    and I said and I said want you put
  • 22:57
    somebody else up there I just mentioned
  • 22:59
    Abraham Lincoln Martin Luther King
  • 23:01
    there's a million people you wanna paint
  • 23:03
    a big head it would be more appropriate
  • 23:05
    I can't wait for the comeback and what
  • 23:08
    and I said why did they do this and so
  • 23:11
    one of the Lib Joe's writes back because
  • 23:14
    the earth is melting
  • 23:22
    so this is in the lexicon yes well these
  • 23:26
    options are subtle brand shifts from
  • 23:28
    global warming subtle yet they deliver a
  • 23:33
    more negative image these names signal
  • 23:36
    that ice caps are melting but also
  • 23:37
    create a more visceral image in the mind
  • 23:40
    that real feeling of melting when it's
  • 23:42
    too hot outside we'll move on climate
  • 23:47
    collapse or climate chaos
  • 23:55
    well climate collapse I think is they've
  • 23:57
    tried that the problem is climate
  • 23:58
    collapse is off what we're done we're
  • 24:00
    done we're over go back to work well he
  • 24:03
    personally likes the alliteration anemic
  • 24:06
    view would to a naming trick proven to
  • 24:09
    enhance memorability so I don't like
  • 24:12
    either one of them then he goes on to
  • 24:14
    boiling point or melting point again
  • 24:18
    with the melting yeah yeah it's just
  • 24:20
    what they always just done during the
  • 24:23
    winter where they're all bundled up
  • 24:24
    outside yeah I don't know yeah we're
  • 24:27
    completely about the boiling point
  • 24:29
    it's a boiling point let me type myself
  • 24:32
    it's time to take the gloves off and
  • 24:34
    stop pretending sometimes the brand
  • 24:36
    names to be name needs to be hyperbolic
  • 24:39
    to truly capture hearts and minds if we
  • 24:41
    don't take massive action now earth will
  • 24:43
    be uninhabitable an irreversible barren
  • 24:46
    wasteland plants and animals will die
  • 24:49
    humans won't be able to survive extreme
  • 24:51
    weather like floods droughts and fires
  • 24:53
    if we don't change won't you be able to
  • 24:55
    spend time outside this term paints the
  • 24:59
    dart the diarist picture of what's to
  • 25:01
    come and what we must avoid and is
  • 25:03
    likely the edgiest brand name from our
  • 25:05
    exploration care to guess huh by the way
  • 25:12
    the for enlightenment apocalypse for
  • 25:15
    anyone to write that in add age that
  • 25:17
    paragraph you're pretty far out there
  • 25:19
    scorched earth is his term which of
  • 25:22
    course is not anything new but he feels
  • 25:24
    that would be really good to get
  • 25:25
    people's attention
  • 25:28
    that's terrible all right now he has
  • 25:30
    some other courts earth is a specific it
  • 25:35
    isn't not a scientific term as
  • 25:36
    historical term yes and it means where
  • 25:39
    you do your leave Europe in a war and
  • 25:41
    then you decide to burn down everything
  • 25:43
    behind you so there's anyone chasing you
  • 25:45
    cannot get supplies or live I think this
  • 25:49
    Court's jurisprudence that assumes
  • 25:53
    somebody's actually doing something
  • 25:56
    try think did this Aaron Hall did he
  • 25:58
    come up with the new coke name seems
  • 26:02
    like he might have been on that team he
  • 26:04
    has a couple other honorable mentions so
  • 26:06
    that was it that's his pitch those are
  • 26:07
    hers hidden age thinks he has a couple
  • 26:09
    of honorable mentions a mission-critical
  • 26:12
    planet critical pre-issued criticals a
  • 26:16
    pun listen to this one pre extinction
  • 26:20
    this I like you and I could use this
  • 26:23
    what climate change yes I believe we are
  • 26:25
    in pre in the pre extinction phase which
  • 26:28
    of course is pretty pretty good because
  • 26:30
    we are we are in rebellion is exploiting
  • 26:32
    that but we can actually say this cuz of
  • 26:36
    course we're pre extinction well so the
  • 26:37
    Holies are yeah perpetually in pre
  • 26:39
    extinction that's why I like it pre
  • 26:42
    addiction we have to come up with this
  • 26:44
    little snow slogan well here's the great
  • 26:46
    collapse which I think isn't interesting
  • 26:49
    you know the great collapse sounds like
  • 26:51
    an economic thing yeah this is no good
  • 26:53
    and then earth-shattering that's no good
  • 26:58
    no there's none of these are good except
  • 27:00
    a pre extinction that's kind of cool
  • 27:05
    that's kind of cool but well it's not
  • 27:08
    gonna get the job done sir gene weighs
  • 27:11
    in he says why not just call it earth
  • 27:14
    cancer that'll here's the latest from
  • 27:29
    extinction rebellion when you're outside
  • 27:31
    you keep headquarters because yes
  • 27:33
    they're protesting outside YouTube
  • 27:35
    YouTube headquarters in London when
  • 27:37
    you're outside YouTube headquarters
  • 27:38
    because our Guardian report has found
  • 27:40
    that the majority of YouTube by the way
  • 27:42
    is Guardian reporter the reporter is a
  • 27:44
    reporter it's very fun build-up of
  • 27:47
    course when you're outside YouTube
  • 27:48
    headquarters because our Guardian report
  • 27:50
    has found that the majority of YouTube
  • 27:52
    videos go against the scientific
  • 27:55
    consensus about the climate crisis and
  • 27:56
    we're asking them to tell the truth
  • 27:59
    about the climate crisis and not let
  • 28:00
    this misinformation be spread once
  • 28:02
    you've watched one video question what's
  • 28:05
    misinformation it keeps you a stream and
  • 28:07
    it keeps going on with just more and
  • 28:09
    more and more MS information that's the
  • 28:11
    way it's algorithm works people do what
  • 28:13
    they do because of the stories that are
  • 28:16
    told the majority of the videos about
  • 28:19
    climate science on YouTube are telling
  • 28:23
    lies lies charge of this company know
  • 28:27
    that we are in an enormous emergency
  • 28:32
    the reality of the crisis that we face
  • 28:34
    then they would be in the streets with
  • 28:37
    us there you go
  • 28:40
    extension or extinction rebellion pre
  • 28:43
    extension and rebellion see a picture
  • 28:44
    they got a picture that Geysers has that
  • 28:46
    thing up is just a horrible looking
  • 28:48
    person he looks like Satan in the UK
  • 28:53
    they had a I guess they had some kind of
  • 28:56
    climate debate and neither Boris Johnson
  • 29:00
    or Nigel Faraj decided to show up so on
  • 29:04
    the TV because I don't know if they
  • 29:05
    decide last minute or they said we're
  • 29:07
    not coming I think was more like we
  • 29:08
    don't want to do this and so they had
  • 29:10
    you know three or four different party
  • 29:12
    leaders and then on either end it would
  • 29:14
    have been Boris or Nigel and instead
  • 29:17
    they had melting busts of them of ice
  • 29:20
    melting very funny I was there by the
  • 29:26
    way this is the typical unfairness of
  • 29:28
    the whole thing to do to do that but
  • 29:32
    they could have had to brought a
  • 29:33
    spokesperson and it said you know four
  • 29:38
    people want to do a campaigning the way
  • 29:40
    you're supposed to do it is you you have
  • 29:43
    so many doesn't show up well he didn't
  • 29:47
    show up but we do have another
  • 29:48
    representative self-proclaimed you
  • 29:51
    Kippur your exit party member of bill
  • 29:55
    Jenkins here and you bring some some
  • 29:58
    stooge in that's got nothing to do with
  • 30:00
    the party doesn't believe in anything
  • 30:02
    over there and just makes a fool of
  • 30:04
    himself always a stutterer right there's
  • 30:08
    some you place them you bring to you
  • 30:09
    like that and you don't pull this other
  • 30:11
    stuff cause it's too obvious the other
  • 30:12
    way this way the way I'm describing is
  • 30:15
    never much necessarily obvious except to
  • 30:17
    that you know fine tune folks who listen
  • 30:20
    to the No Agenda show there was quite
  • 30:23
    the fracas over the past couple couple
  • 30:25
    of days as balsan arrow of Brazil
  • 30:30
    Brazilian President bolson ro claimed
  • 30:34
    that a group that supports
  • 30:40
    I guess works in an NGO Amazon
  • 30:44
    forestation NGO received money from
  • 30:47
    Leonardo DiCaprio and that they're the
  • 30:48
    ones that set the Amazon on fire yes I
  • 30:52
    have this I love this I'm covering your
  • 30:57
    ass today yeah well thanks which one is
  • 31:00
    it every every topic I got a clip well
  • 31:04
    here's here's how it works I sit down
  • 31:06
    I'm gonna do clips if I see you have the
  • 31:08
    clip I'm just gonna get the set dressing
  • 31:09
    I'm gonna get the window stuff yeah
  • 31:11
    you're getting all the credit oh your
  • 31:13
    install was that it was the segue was so
  • 31:19
    beautiful thank you by the way before
  • 31:22
    you segue out what you're gonna do I do
  • 31:25
    have a couple other screwball climate
  • 31:27
    change these Melissa listen to bolson
  • 31:29
    are this this things looks like I don't
  • 31:31
    know who this is a publicity stunt for
  • 31:33
    but it is for somebody tonight a war of
  • 31:36
    words between Brazilian President Wilson
  • 31:38
    ro and oscar-winning actor Leonardo
  • 31:41
    DiCaprio president Bolton ro blaming the
  • 31:43
    star for the devastating Amazon
  • 31:45
    wildfires earlier this year Caprio is a
  • 31:49
    cool guy he said giving money the Amazon
  • 31:52
    on fire Bolton RL has accused certain
  • 31:54
    non-governmental environmental
  • 31:56
    organizations of deliberately setting
  • 31:57
    fire to the Amazon contacts Leonardo
  • 32:02
    DiCaprio he alleges he donates $500,000
  • 32:06
    you are contributing to the fire in the
  • 32:07
    Amazon investigators have not found any
  • 32:10
    evidence so far to support the
  • 32:11
    accusations and now the actor and avid
  • 32:14
    climate activists is hitting back saying
  • 32:16
    in an instagram statement while worthy
  • 32:18
    of support we did not fund the
  • 32:20
    organizations targeted adding that he
  • 32:22
    remains committed to helping secure the
  • 32:24
    amazon for the future of all brazilians
  • 32:26
    the fire so far have helped destroy
  • 32:29
    millions of acres
  • 32:30
    how long before this concludes how how
  • 32:32
    can this not be a problem for the XR
  • 32:35
    folks when when he's saying well while
  • 32:40
    it's worthy of support of burning down
  • 32:43
    the Amazon we didn't do it this time
  • 32:47
    isn't this whole thing like wasn't
  • 32:49
    everyone all out of their minds because
  • 32:51
    of these fires and it was going to
  • 32:54
    more carbon dioxide and and less plan so
  • 32:58
    where did i do what did i miss the
  • 33:00
    change here that this that it's okay for
  • 33:02
    him to say oh it's good that they do
  • 33:04
    that
  • 33:06
    well there was this was disco we
  • 33:09
    discussed this in great detail as I
  • 33:10
    recall in from all kinds of perspectives
  • 33:13
    and they do burn the forest quite a bit
  • 33:16
    every year yeah sort of a process that
  • 33:19
    they used to greeing with it but how
  • 33:21
    come the the extinction rebellion aren't
  • 33:24
    up in arms that he would actually
  • 33:26
    support that
  • 33:29
    sinara would support noted DiCaprio
  • 33:32
    supports the brothel the Amazon I don't
  • 33:36
    know
  • 33:36
    don't you remember that with amazoness
  • 33:37
    burning we're all gonna die I did miss
  • 33:40
    the ones of the earth yes the lungs of
  • 33:43
    the earth did we miss this report and
  • 33:45
    now but I'll Leonardo said it's good and
  • 33:48
    then we just don't talk about I'm sorry
  • 33:49
    maybe I'm misinterpreting this you might
  • 33:52
    be mr. turban something cuz I don't
  • 33:53
    remember I don't know that's in there
  • 33:55
    you can you play it and tell me this
  • 33:57
    specific part you're referring to yes
  • 33:59
    five hundred thousand dollars you're
  • 34:00
    contributing to the fire in the Amazon
  • 34:02
    investigators have not found any
  • 34:04
    evidence so far to support the
  • 34:06
    accusations and now the actor and avid
  • 34:08
    climate activist is hitting back saying
  • 34:10
    in an instagram statement while worthy
  • 34:13
    of support we did not fund the
  • 34:14
    organizations targeted adding that he
  • 34:16
    remains committed to helping security
  • 34:19
    while worthy of support the the NGO that
  • 34:21
    burned down the Amazon we didn't give
  • 34:24
    month give them money oh I see what
  • 34:27
    you're saying okay yeah well there's two
  • 34:29
    things and it didn't that clip that ever
  • 34:31
    bothersome that's one of them the other
  • 34:33
    one is in an Instagram the announcement
  • 34:36
    is when people are starting to do their
  • 34:38
    announcements on Instagram is that just
  • 34:40
    for photos oh man Leonardo you can think
  • 34:45
    that's your platform it's where you go
  • 34:48
    Amazon for the future of all Brazilians
  • 34:50
    the fire so far have helped destroy
  • 34:52
    millions of acres of the ecosystem known
  • 34:55
    as the lungs of the earth in governments
  • 34:57
    around the world including Brazil we
  • 34:59
    need to work together to make sure this
  • 35:01
    doesn't continue for the president of a
  • 35:03
    country to claim that an actor is
  • 35:05
    actually trying to hurt the environment
  • 35:07
    that he's trying to protect is just it
  • 35:09
    just shows how how little bulls marrow
  • 35:11
    has in his in his pocket
  • 35:13
    you hear did you listen to that last
  • 35:15
    part again and really understand the
  • 35:18
    implications of what he said I want to
  • 35:21
    hear it again the last the last 10
  • 35:22
    seconds here yeah that guy some Joker
  • 35:25
    comes on at the end and says something
  • 35:27
    oops
  • 35:28
    continue for the president of a country
  • 35:31
    to claim that an actor is actually
  • 35:33
    trying to hurt the environment that he's
  • 35:35
    trying to protect it's just it just
  • 35:36
    shows how how little bull Harrow has in
  • 35:39
    his in his pocket
  • 35:42
    does he it sounds to be like he's
  • 35:44
    implying that actors gen have no power
  • 35:47
    well there's that but he's saying that
  • 35:51
    actors in general would never never know
  • 35:54
    actor oh right just as all all all
  • 35:59
    creative people are Democrats
  • 36:01
    yeah according to a John Legend so
  • 36:04
    there's this kind of arrogance in the
  • 36:06
    amongst the ranks that you know if
  • 36:09
    you're an actor you're an artist and
  • 36:11
    therefore you'd want to do this and you
  • 36:13
    want to do that you wouldn't even think
  • 36:15
    of voting Republican who was the guy at
  • 36:18
    the end there who did who some guy he
  • 36:20
    was some stooge I don't know they may
  • 36:24
    had a lower third with his name on it it
  • 36:26
    was not an important person but he was
  • 36:28
    making commentary but I just was what I
  • 36:32
    saw I left it in because there was no
  • 36:34
    actor could ever ever do that no actors
  • 36:37
    are for client we're all against climate
  • 36:42
    change with us an actor you wanna hear
  • 36:44
    the John Legend clip for refreshing
  • 36:46
    release well we've always been liberal
  • 36:48
    musicians actors it's almost by
  • 36:52
    disposition we deal with the gay and
  • 36:55
    lesbian community all the time so we're
  • 36:57
    going to feel like they should have like
  • 36:59
    to get married know just like we do we
  • 37:02
    deal with people of all colors and all
  • 37:04
    races and we travel to different
  • 37:06
    countries all the time to perform so
  • 37:08
    we're going to have a more global view
  • 37:10
    and the more inclusive it's almost by
  • 37:12
    nature and by and by circumstance of the
  • 37:16
    things that we do so if America doesn't
  • 37:20
    want to consume the art of people who
  • 37:23
    are liberal minded there's not going to
  • 37:26
    be a lot of art for them to consume as
  • 37:27
    simple as that
  • 37:28
    cuz the best artists most of them are
  • 37:31
    liberal
  • 37:31
    sorry there are some country artists
  • 37:34
    that I know they're conservative I have
  • 37:35
    a lot of country artists that are
  • 37:36
    friends and believe me some of them are
  • 37:38
    liberal but they don't make a big deal
  • 37:40
    out of it because they know it'll
  • 37:42
    eliminate their base I'm telling you
  • 37:44
    most creative people are liberal to say
  • 37:47
    I have a lot of country people who are
  • 37:49
    my friends is that not the same as yeah
  • 37:51
    I have black people who are some some of
  • 37:53
    them I guess for
  • 37:53
    like people who are my friends country
  • 37:56
    people my friends exactly the same banks
  • 37:59
    legend and then we also reintroduced the
  • 38:01
    secret vote thing which is that well you
  • 38:04
    know if you got a minister secret vote
  • 38:06
    they'd vote against him and that's what
  • 38:09
    he's implying there is just a lot of
  • 38:11
    country-western singers in there in the
  • 38:14
    closet there in the closet you see they
  • 38:16
    can't really say anything because they
  • 38:18
    can't say anything but if you actually
  • 38:19
    could get them to say what they really
  • 38:21
    meant matter oh yes of course obviously
  • 38:25
    so DiCaprio continues to be a good
  • 38:28
    shepherd or steward I should say of
  • 38:31
    agenda 21 as he is now officially
  • 38:33
    announced his investment in the beyond
  • 38:37
    meat vegan burger company chemicals are
  • 38:41
    us now is it true
  • 38:44
    do they have chemically better living
  • 38:46
    through chemistry yeah well is it I
  • 38:49
    thought it was just all beans sure this
  • 38:52
    kid there's a bunch of there's a but I
  • 38:54
    don't have the package in front of me
  • 38:55
    but there's a lot of additives and
  • 38:58
    things to make it work
  • 39:01
    and as peas I think right the that did
  • 39:05
    you want to do some more a climate
  • 39:07
    change because I'd yeah I got a few
  • 39:09
    singing this is pouring rain here and
  • 39:12
    it's freezing cold oh man we had thought
  • 39:14
    it makes I think it's worth to Madden we
  • 39:16
    had a couple of dreary days here as well
  • 39:18
    cold wet it's actually where I am it's
  • 39:21
    actually not as bad as it is everywhere
  • 39:23
    else in the Bay Area but yeah we got an
  • 39:26
    invasion of purple urges as an NBC
  • 39:28
    report this purple urgence invasion one
  • 39:31
    with an environmental emergency in
  • 39:33
    patterns an unexpected predator is
  • 39:35
    disrupting a fragile ecosystem off our
  • 39:37
    west coast gotta Schwartz went under the
  • 39:40
    sea with a group trying to make a
  • 39:41
    difference before it's too late
  • 39:44
    he'd never noticed from along the
  • 39:46
    coastlines of California but below these
  • 39:48
    picturesque waters an ecological
  • 39:50
    emergency is unfolding crisis you have
  • 39:56
    to go deep with the small scoop armies
  • 39:59
    of volunteers all the way to the
  • 40:01
    seafloor or purple sea urchins are
  • 40:03
    invading and destroying what were once
  • 40:05
    vast kelp forests the sea urchins just
  • 40:16
    one piece of a catastrophic trifecta a
  • 40:19
    devastating the ecology of California's
  • 40:21
    sea life warming waters from climate
  • 40:23
    change in a diseased fish have led to a
  • 40:27
    purple urgent which is why volunteers
  • 40:51
    like Joshua Russo were spending their
  • 40:53
    weekends trying to remove as many purple
  • 40:55
    urchins as they can bag so this is one
  • 40:58
    of the last stands yeah we've lost over
  • 41:00
    90% of our kelp beds in there in
  • 41:02
    California
  • 41:03
    experts say the kelp forests are the
  • 41:05
    foundation for countless food chains
  • 41:07
    from plankton the abalone fish
  • 41:09
    sea otters all now replaced by a barren
  • 41:13
    sea bed of urgence now where do these
  • 41:18
    come from sea urchins yeah they are the
  • 41:21
    indigenous yeah they're native and they
  • 41:25
    used to here's the real problem they
  • 41:27
    could bring me the Sun God a global
  • 41:28
    warming global warming kills the
  • 41:30
    starfish and no the starfish died of
  • 41:33
    some mysterious disease that they've
  • 41:36
    never identified and they could be
  • 41:39
    replenished because they're pretty
  • 41:41
    because the starfish loved these urchins
  • 41:44
    and anyone who eats uni knows what
  • 41:47
    they're going for there yeah I was gonna
  • 41:50
    say I mean can't we it sounds like a
  • 41:52
    good supply of food yeah we can do a lot
  • 41:56
    with these urchins it's the fishing
  • 41:58
    trade there's like a billion of them Oh
  • 42:01
    right now they guesstimate yeah and
  • 42:03
    they're out there all over the bottom
  • 42:04
    there's pointy they're horrible looking
  • 42:06
    things and they're picked they're trying
  • 42:07
    to I don't mean what they're where
  • 42:09
    they're bothering but but when you
  • 42:10
    listen to part two you can get kind of a
  • 42:12
    clue and then I would we'll talk about
  • 42:15
    after you listen to this part what's
  • 42:16
    changed out here we have a crisis and I
  • 42:19
    making the ocean is dying because we've
  • 42:21
    got a billion sea urchins and are eating
  • 42:23
    everything but on shore solutions are
  • 42:26
    limited with regulations restricting how
  • 42:28
    many urchins can be harvested by hand so
  • 42:37
    for now volunteers are plucking them out
  • 42:39
    one by one
  • 42:40
    purple drops in a bucket for a problem
  • 42:43
    growing every day I think we need
  • 42:45
    emergency legislation what seems to me
  • 42:48
    what would happen here was that sea
  • 42:50
    urchins these little purple guys were
  • 42:54
    being being produced by it's being
  • 42:56
    protected by some bullcrap legislation
  • 42:58
    and they grew out of control yeah and
  • 43:04
    this is a Democrat state they could
  • 43:06
    change the legislation easy enough I
  • 43:08
    don't think it's a federal law that
  • 43:09
    keeps you from just taking a plow cuz
  • 43:13
    you could see you could go down there if
  • 43:14
    you had some mechanical stuff because
  • 43:16
    you have to by law you can only pluck
  • 43:19
    these things by hand and you can't even
  • 43:20
    count to a billion let alone pluck
  • 43:23
    a billion of these things out at the
  • 43:24
    bottom you know it's obviously the the
  • 43:26
    the sushi restaurant owners lobby that
  • 43:28
    is keeping these regulations you play
  • 43:31
    probably killing all these things and
  • 43:32
    they're running short and then they said
  • 43:34
    no no no you can't do that you know guys
  • 43:36
    you're killing all these damn things and
  • 43:38
    so they legislated let him grow and so
  • 43:41
    now they're taking over the place and
  • 43:44
    there's a lot of this story that needs
  • 43:46
    to be further investigated but I'm
  • 43:49
    sausage is one of the problems which may
  • 43:51
    have been it for all you know poisoned
  • 43:53
    yeah to keep the sea urchins going so
  • 43:56
    they can have more Unni the Japanese
  • 43:58
    love Unni well now you're talking some
  • 44:01
    trade would with Japan apparently we're
  • 44:05
    set we're selling rice to China now so
  • 44:07
    why would we sell sushi to Japan well
  • 44:10
    yeah I don't see why not
  • 44:12
    I don't know now somebody out there
  • 44:14
    who's an expert do we have some we have
  • 44:16
    people that we have people definitely I
  • 44:18
    think you say this is not the edible or
  • 44:20
    the edible sea urchin but I don't know
  • 44:22
    why would it be protected in such a way
  • 44:24
    if it wasn't so I'm sure it's the edible
  • 44:27
    one and ingest our fish apparently loved
  • 44:30
    eating them so it's a mess but the
  • 44:33
    global warming is not the problem no but
  • 44:36
    it's always fun to mention it
  • 44:39
    yeah I just keep hounding and hounding
  • 44:42
    and hounding because it works it does
  • 44:45
    work as we know I don't know if I get
  • 44:48
    any more global warming stuff here well
  • 44:52
    nobody we do have this this is something
  • 44:54
    we probably at least get out of the way
  • 44:56
    - at least so we can feel better that
  • 44:58
    we're doing this show on the we did it
  • 45:00
    on Thanksgiving we're doing it today you
  • 45:02
    were doing it where you're in Holland
  • 45:03
    and let's listen to what's going on
  • 45:06
    around the country the Thanksgiving
  • 45:08
    weather report good evening dangerous
  • 45:10
    deadly weather is slamming much of the
  • 45:12
    US right now these are conditions
  • 45:14
    crippling parts of the Rockies Midwest
  • 45:17
    Great Plains even Arizona and this is
  • 45:20
    just the beginning more than 70 million
  • 45:22
    people will also be hit with gusty winds
  • 45:24
    flash floods and tornadoes treacherous
  • 45:27
    conditions for the 55 million traveling
  • 45:30
    home from the holidays airports are on
  • 45:32
    alert canceling flights thousands more
  • 45:35
    already delayed we're tracking multiple
  • 45:38
    storm systems this hour Kathy Park
  • 45:40
    starts us off tonight
  • 45:42
    powerful stores creating chaos for
  • 45:45
    post-thanksgiving travelers as snow
  • 45:47
    heavy rain and strong winds barrel
  • 45:50
    across the country in Colorado
  • 45:52
    hurricane-force wind gusts whipping snow
  • 45:54
    in all directions creating whiteout
  • 45:57
    conditions tough even for this
  • 46:01
    meteorologist and and dangerous for
  • 46:04
    those daring to drive on the roads in
  • 46:06
    Arizona a massive pileup on the
  • 46:09
    interstate with trucks stuck for hours
  • 46:12
    and a snowy Grand Canyon town declared a
  • 46:15
    state of emergency with no power
  • 46:18
    stranding a thousand Taurus tornadoes
  • 46:21
    even touched down in Phoenix and
  • 46:23
    floodwaters turned deadly in nearby
  • 46:25
    helix
  • 46:26
    an RV slept into the street only six
  • 46:30
    people made it out alive as water week
  • 46:32
    Lisa Ward's the vehicle listening to
  • 46:36
    this in audio is probably even better
  • 46:38
    than watching this on television it is
  • 46:40
    except for one thing what's that they
  • 46:43
    had a photo or shot or a video of the
  • 46:46
    Grand Canyon each covered with snow yeah
  • 46:49
    Wow was that something to look at
  • 46:52
    it's just the Grand Canyon but there's
  • 46:55
    snow all over the place it's very pretty
  • 46:57
    hmm what we should do like we should do
  • 46:59
    our own little report I think you should
  • 47:01
    toss to me I'm at Austin Bergstrom
  • 47:02
    Airport and we've got a report from
  • 47:07
    madam Curry's in Austin Austin Bergstrom
  • 47:09
    Airport as we speak at him
  • 47:26
    [Music]
  • 47:38
    does Adam curry at the airport be safe
  • 47:41
    buddy people in the in the troll room
  • 47:44
    like hey man it sounds like there's some
  • 47:46
    static or something what am i hearing
  • 47:48
    that's the wind blowing on the mic you
  • 47:51
    fools have a bit you know do something
  • 47:57
    actually if you listen to the report
  • 47:59
    that I had the clip of day but you
  • 48:02
    looked at sound into the voiceover
  • 48:06
    they've used myself the sound of a
  • 48:08
    reporter in a hurricane out in the wind
  • 48:11
    and he's got a dead cat whatever is
  • 48:12
    using the bat muffle sounds not helping
  • 48:17
    it's my favorite kind of report love
  • 48:20
    them so now they're just using that
  • 48:22
    sound to make it maybe sound yes exactly
  • 48:26
    bad miking very funny yeah speaking of
  • 48:33
    the of the holiday Thanksgiving Day
  • 48:36
    Thanksgiving I'm sorry I have one more
  • 48:38
    global warming clip Oh John well that
  • 48:40
    has precedence of course well we're on
  • 48:42
    the topic yeah sea level rise Shorty and
  • 48:45
    Deutsche Welle if you live in coastal
  • 48:48
    areas of China Bangladesh India Vietnam
  • 48:50
    or Thailand you may have to move within
  • 48:53
    the next 30 years
  • 48:54
    the reason sea level rise a new study
  • 48:57
    predicts that by 2050 increases in sea
  • 49:00
    levels due to melting ice sheets could
  • 49:03
    affect more people than previously
  • 49:05
    estimated yeah I think what they're
  • 49:08
    trying to create is some kind of panic
  • 49:10
    selling moment the elite can come in and
  • 49:14
    get some nice beachfront property and
  • 49:16
    what they brought they brought this guy
  • 49:18
    on who did this report for some climates
  • 49:20
    change operation and he admitted that
  • 49:24
    there was no difference in the numbers
  • 49:26
    that they've ever been he said now
  • 49:28
    they're they're perceiving the
  • 49:30
    possibility that the landmass
  • 49:32
    is going getting lower yes it's sinking
  • 49:35
    it's sinking in say yes instead of the
  • 49:37
    sea level rising actually the land is
  • 49:40
    sinking and a lot of that is happening
  • 49:41
    there's a lot of erosion because of sand
  • 49:43
    theft primarily a lot of these islands
  • 49:47
    sand is being stolen and it helps make
  • 49:50
    that country sink like the Maldives
  • 49:53
    they're stealing sand
  • 49:56
    one word so we laughed on the last show
  • 49:59
    a bit about the Newsweek report that
  • 50:02
    Trump
  • 50:03
    oh he's spending his Thanksgiving
  • 50:05
    holiday golfing and drinking uh golfing
  • 50:09
    and whoring and mani toward horrid horn
  • 50:12
    around and of course he went to
  • 50:14
    Afghanistan which was somewhat
  • 50:16
    unexpected
  • 50:17
    now that Newsweek reporter was fired and
  • 50:21
    now the reporter is retorting saying
  • 50:25
    hold on a second I called the editor who
  • 50:28
    was on duty and I told him hey
  • 50:30
    something's going on and he filed my
  • 50:32
    report anyway it's his fault yes yeah
  • 50:36
    the pointing fingers at each other I
  • 50:38
    like it yeah run scared yeah but it just
  • 50:41
    shows how phony the news business is
  • 50:45
    everything you saw on television pretty
  • 50:47
    much maybe your local live news cast
  • 50:51
    but even that had a lot of pre-roll
  • 50:52
    packages because that's what happens
  • 50:54
    this just they stop with news they go
  • 50:56
    home they have their own then public be
  • 50:59
    damned
  • 50:59
    and then just filed the reports and you
  • 51:02
    know make it up as they go along and
  • 51:04
    it's not just Thanksgiving it happens
  • 51:06
    with many other things
  • 51:09
    that's why that's why I like being here
  • 51:11
    and like being live hello I thought you
  • 51:13
    were gonna had a clip that was gonna
  • 51:15
    exemplify this oh if only I did no I
  • 51:18
    have other fun stuff to talk about but I
  • 51:20
    don't yeah I kind of followed that story
  • 51:22
    with that woman in her false report and
  • 51:24
    she was she was told to file at days
  • 51:27
    early and so she had to guesstimate
  • 51:29
    what's gonna happen your Thanksgiving
  • 51:32
    report earlier just just people don't
  • 51:36
    realize it when people die their obits
  • 51:39
    go that's that's how they sometimes slip
  • 51:42
    out by accident yeah every so often
  • 51:45
    somebody's accidently prints one of them
  • 51:47
    yeah very well prepared oh 'but if there
  • 51:51
    was a there's a big revelation in the
  • 51:53
    Jeffrey Epstein case now that was
  • 51:56
    detailed in the New York Times
  • 51:59
    apparently some hacker named Kessler has
  • 52:04
    come out of the Woodworks and has been
  • 52:05
    yeah in fact has been talking to
  • 52:07
    different parties for several months
  • 52:09
    saying that he has an entire server full
  • 52:13
    encrypted etc etc of prominent people
  • 52:18
    from Jeffrey Epstein's recordings that
  • 52:22
    he set up the secure server or a secure
  • 52:25
    server for epstein and that he had
  • 52:28
    access and he's now created a replica of
  • 52:30
    it he went to the some lawyers and it's
  • 52:34
    a very just got it this morning so
  • 52:35
    haven't really I because he's gotta get
  • 52:37
    killed if he doesn't do this right yes
  • 52:39
    but he but what's worse is he went to
  • 52:42
    some lawyers that okay you know I have
  • 52:44
    this what we're gonna do and the lawyers
  • 52:46
    actually wanted to that as per this
  • 52:48
    hacker wanted to take that information
  • 52:51
    and use it to blackmail the people
  • 52:53
    themselves well here I have a I have a
  • 53:01
    clip from the weekly podcast because of
  • 53:04
    course if it's Jeff for Jeffrey Epstein
  • 53:06
    we got to move it off the front page to
  • 53:08
    a podcast this story really began for us
  • 53:10
    the day in July
  • 53:12
    the Jeffrey Epstein was arrested and
  • 53:14
    criminally charged with sex trafficking
  • 53:17
    of minors suddenly he was I'm just gonna
  • 53:20
    say up front I am as much as I love this
  • 53:24
    invention podcasting what they've done
  • 53:27
    with reporting is it's like they're
  • 53:30
    trying to all be Scorsese you know or
  • 53:33
    the you know Phil Spector the wall of
  • 53:36
    sound look at these edits I've got these
  • 53:38
    little music beds in these hit just get
  • 53:40
    to the damn story to trying to make Emmy
  • 53:43
    award-winning store what is it Marconi
  • 53:45
    award-winning stuff every single time
  • 53:47
    with a I'm so dramatic the story really
  • 53:50
    began for us the day in July the Jeffrey
  • 53:53
    Epstein was arrested and criminally
  • 53:55
    charged with sex trafficking of minors
  • 53:57
    suddenly he was someone we were thinking
  • 54:01
    about one of the big questions was where
  • 54:04
    his money was from how does someone like
  • 54:06
    that come up with hundreds of millions
  • 54:08
    of dollars and we were tantalized by the
  • 54:13
    fact that he seemed to have influence
  • 54:15
    with a lot of power
  • 54:17
    people when these weren't models and
  • 54:20
    Hollywood people these are some of the
  • 54:22
    biggest names and business and finance
  • 54:24
    there were Nobel Prize winners Wall
  • 54:26
    Street bigwigs the listeners on and on
  • 54:29
    and we want to figure out why people had
  • 54:32
    gravitated to him even after he had
  • 54:35
    become known as a sexual predator and
  • 54:39
    then in September our reporters met a
  • 54:42
    man who claimed to have a secret trove
  • 54:46
    of information from Epstein's properties
  • 54:49
    this is someone who had extraordinary
  • 54:52
    probably unparalleled inside access to
  • 54:55
    not only Epstein but his evidence
  • 54:57
    digital archive if what the informant
  • 55:00
    was saying was true it had the potential
  • 55:03
    to unlock Jeffrey Epstein's most
  • 55:06
    important secrets that's what I mean
  • 55:11
    it's like here on the no agenda show as
  • 55:15
    we think about the most important things
  • 55:18
    it could be exactly needed that it we
  • 55:31
    should just do the show like that just
  • 55:32
    over bit I should be playing music in
  • 55:34
    the background it could be useful well
  • 55:40
    if you read the reporting on it though
  • 55:42
    it's this is interesting of course you
  • 55:44
    know this is you were reading from the
  • 55:46
    screen we could they could have been a
  • 55:50
    lot shorter I just like taking forever
  • 55:52
    to say what they want to say and I just
  • 55:55
    love that they have you know that
  • 55:57
    there's this guy out there who's his
  • 55:59
    hand I've got it and that apparently
  • 56:00
    showed something on his phone it was set
  • 56:02
    up a Deadman switch and make sure that
  • 56:04
    stuff goes to WikiLeaks I may if
  • 56:06
    anything happens to him yeah well I
  • 56:08
    don't know if you wanted to go to
  • 56:09
    WikiLeaks but well someplace yeah well
  • 56:13
    he's that's he has said this yes that he
  • 56:15
    has a weird pleasure WordPress blog what
  • 56:19
    no Squarespace for your Deadman switch
  • 56:21
    no sacrilege
  • 56:25
    in the me to arena very important study
  • 56:28
    has come out in the Springer
  • 56:34
    evolutionary psychology cool science
  • 56:38
    publish section of their publishing
  • 56:42
    system so it's an official one I can
  • 56:45
    only get the abstract because I don't
  • 56:46
    have any way to purchase this in your
  • 56:48
    Verilog yes sexual strategies and the
  • 56:53
    perception of sexual advances oppression
  • 56:56
    or opportunity here we go then remember
  • 57:00
    this comes originally from
  • 57:02
    iliza shlesinger as highlighted by the
  • 57:04
    no agenda show from an evolutionary
  • 57:06
    perspective the perception and
  • 57:08
    interpretation of sexual advances depend
  • 57:10
    on sex specific mechanisms individual
  • 57:13
    differences in the perceivers mating
  • 57:15
    strategies and the actors attractiveness
  • 57:18
    in two study's participants evaluated
  • 57:21
    hypothetical situations of sexual
  • 57:23
    advances from a co-worker varying in
  • 57:25
    attractiveness do you imagine this study
  • 57:28
    done imagine you imagine well hey we're
  • 57:32
    in this study can the No Agenda show
  • 57:34
    help choose the participants it's like
  • 57:38
    doing a casting call varying an
  • 57:43
    attractiveness that was study one and
  • 57:45
    physical appearance or status in study
  • 57:48
    two that's very slight there's another
  • 57:50
    one yeah yeah in both yes reach now
  • 57:54
    here's that here's that here's the is
  • 57:56
    the thing though
  • 57:56
    in both studies men perceived sexual
  • 58:01
    advances as less negative than women
  • 58:05
    especially when the advances arise from
  • 58:08
    a physically attractive actor from our
  • 58:12
    first stop the presses
  • 58:15
    furthermore each ad again I had no idea
  • 58:18
    who could have thunk in both studies men
  • 58:22
    perceive sexual advances as less
  • 58:25
    negative than women especially when the
  • 58:28
    advances arise from a physically
  • 58:30
    attractive actor now mind you men are
  • 58:33
    the horn dogs so it's less than women I
  • 58:36
    think since I don't have the study I'm
  • 58:38
    pretty sure they put it into me
  • 58:39
    women sound less douchey but it's
  • 58:42
    amongst its really equal as we continue
  • 58:45
    to read furthermore the higher the socio
  • 58:48
    sexual orientation of the participants
  • 58:51
    what the hell does that mean
  • 58:54
    socio-sexual I have you know generally
  • 58:58
    speaking I could probably like from some
  • 59:00
    perspective answer that question like
  • 59:02
    that I have no idea what you're talking
  • 59:04
    about
  • 59:05
    so sexual socio sexuality is the
  • 59:09
    individual difference in the willingness
  • 59:11
    to engage in sexual activity outside of
  • 59:14
    a committed relationship out cheaters
  • 59:18
    the higher this a cheater socio-sexual
  • 59:21
    doesn't even imply that
  • 59:25
    crazy term but they would keep reading
  • 59:27
    science furthermore the higher the socio
  • 59:32
    sexual orientation of the participants
  • 59:35
    the less harmful these sexual advances
  • 59:37
    are perceived okay finally the same
  • 59:41
    behavior from an attractive or
  • 59:43
    physically attractive actor is perceived
  • 59:45
    as less harmful than from an
  • 59:47
    unattractive actor results are discussed
  • 59:49
    from an evolutionary perspective on the
  • 59:51
    perception of sexual advances so it's
  • 59:53
    it's a scientific fact that if you're
  • 59:57
    hot you can you can harass all you want
  • 1:00:03
    well I think that's borne out by reality
  • 1:00:07
    and then poor Harvey wisely must really
  • 1:00:10
    feel like a crap the world apparently
  • 1:00:17
    well Billy Joel already proved to us
  • 1:00:19
    that as long as you got talent or money
  • 1:00:21
    it doesn't matter how you look and
  • 1:00:23
    that's how he got Christie Brinkley you
  • 1:00:25
    know she left him at the drop of a hat
  • 1:00:28
    that was the alcohol that was the most
  • 1:00:31
    staying power
  • 1:00:34
    I just thought you'd be happy about that
  • 1:00:39
    I'd be chaste just about that chaff
  • 1:00:41
    shuffle I don't determine I don't know
  • 1:00:45
    what that means
  • 1:00:46
    well something happy about it just
  • 1:00:49
    confirms reality and it's just like the
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    whole thing and now you got Chris
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    unfortunately reopens the well she's too
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    ugly to have a boyfriend kind of
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    arguments gonna be heartless heartless
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    right-wing girls a good-looking
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    heartless right-wing women are always
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    condemning the ugly women for being ugly
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    know what is what no I logical outcome
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    is why didn't you sexually harass me
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    because I'm ugly is that why oh that's a
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    great way to go of course it's going
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    that way yeah then you have just the
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    opposite to pendulum swings in the
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    opposite direction I mean already if if
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    you're us in the social justice circles
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    and someone says well would you date a
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    trans woman you have to say yes if you
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    don't say yes then you're trans folk so
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    would you date an ugly woman yeah of
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    course you have to say yes yes of course
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    yes yeah well that's part of the laws
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    that keep trying to pass in California
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    where you can't discriminate on account
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    of looks right literally kind of looks
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    and this was put forth by a bunch of
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    people who are all you have their ears
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    gauge they got face tats
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    they got horns that have been embedded
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    into the head their face is red look at
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    the devil literally look like the devil
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    they got canine teeth that have been
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    implants and so they looked just
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    horrible looking people that just
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    gruesome yeah and you have to hire them
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    all right you want to do a twenty20
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    politics here you won't do something
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    else yeah we have a couple minutes if
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    you want to I have something I wanted to
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    do a little brexit
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    oh yeah brexit would be good get into
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    this we get into some action yeah we're
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    getting pretty close yeah first I have a
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    man on the street report that's kind of
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    interesting this is uh they're talking
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    about Brexton and the upcoming elections
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    is how important in this election to
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    using bricks it is very important it's a
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    really important issue to love important
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    issues Britain at the moment and so it's
  • 1:03:02
    hard to separate it from the election
  • 1:03:05
    but dig deeper and things get more
  • 1:03:07
    complicated is there anyone in
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    particular that you think is better
  • 1:03:10
    placed than anyone else just sort breaks
  • 1:03:13
    it out so I don't want bricks it to
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    happen so whatever outcome of the
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    election makes that more likely would be
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    good for me
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    what conservative would get it over
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    their line I would believe
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    is that what you want to see happen not
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    necessarily opinion polls indicate that
  • 1:03:32
    the number of people who will base their
  • 1:03:33
    vote on bricks it has more than doubled
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    since the last election from 18% to 40%
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    now add the prominence of brexit as an
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    election issue to the huge divergence of
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    views on brexit and what you get is bad
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    news for a settled result vote for the
  • 1:03:51
    party that wants to stop breaks it labor
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    has a clear plan to get breakfast sorted
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    within six months we can get brexit done
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    now one way or another almost everyone
  • 1:04:04
    you talk to once breaks it over with
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    but what if the voters are so bored it
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    breaks it
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    they screen out the issues rain breaks
  • 1:04:13
    it what the vs. screen it all outs and
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    they decide to vote on the domestic
  • 1:04:18
    issues that worry them whether it is the
  • 1:04:19
    NHS or housing or all those other issues
  • 1:04:22
    and those are areas where by and large
  • 1:04:24
    the opposition party the Labour Party
  • 1:04:26
    have got the strongest policies and the
  • 1:04:28
    biggest support that's one among many
  • 1:04:31
    variables in the coming election
  • 1:04:33
    country's issues have been put into the
  • 1:04:36
    backfoot last year talking about breaths
  • 1:04:39
    of breakfast so I don't know if
  • 1:04:41
    anybody's competent or not I'm a bit
  • 1:04:43
    confused with it all to be honest with
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    you the polls do point to a conservative
  • 1:04:50
    victory though and if Boris Johnson wins
  • 1:04:52
    a majority that could mean the UK
  • 1:04:53
    leaving the EU he says by Christmas
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    there's some irregularities that took
  • 1:05:03
    place we had this stabbing on London
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    Bridge which enabled the Prime Minister
  • 1:05:11
    to be interviewed and speak because you
  • 1:05:14
    know it's they have a two week is it two
  • 1:05:16
    week at that week dark period where
  • 1:05:18
    there's no campaigning there's no
  • 1:05:20
    political messaging there's really
  • 1:05:22
    nothing on television I think this or
  • 1:05:24
    there's no political programming perhaps
  • 1:05:27
    I don't know exactly what the rule is
  • 1:05:29
    but you can't campaign I think
  • 1:05:34
    kind of stupid rule so they had to get
  • 1:05:35
    special permission for the Prime
  • 1:05:37
    Minister to speak on television about it
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    but also this knife attack itself I mean
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    when you have an important election
  • 1:05:45
    coming up which will be very determining
  • 1:05:48
    for the outcome of brexit with you know
  • 1:05:52
    either stays the same or goes away
  • 1:05:55
    entirely or as many would hope there's a
  • 1:05:58
    majority for the Conservatives and they
  • 1:06:00
    can go ahead and RAM everything through
  • 1:06:02
    and make it happen to all of a sudden
  • 1:06:05
    have an immigration based tragedy take
  • 1:06:08
    place is always handy
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    this is beyond handy in particular
  • 1:06:14
    because both the the guy who who did
  • 1:06:19
    this he was out on special circumstances
  • 1:06:23
    at a conference for earlier prisoner
  • 1:06:25
    release and the guy who was with the
  • 1:06:28
    tusks I think there was a guy with I
  • 1:06:30
    love these guys who I also doubt they're
  • 1:06:32
    battling a guy with a with an IE D belt
  • 1:06:35
    with a fire extinguisher very heroic but
  • 1:06:39
    the guy with the tusks was also out on
  • 1:06:41
    some special program for killing a
  • 1:06:43
    fifteen-year-old or something the whole
  • 1:06:45
    thing stinks
  • 1:06:46
    let's stop and deconstruct it I do have
  • 1:06:49
    one report that we could least play for
  • 1:06:52
    background all right which is the
  • 1:06:54
    stabbing stabbing make sense police at
  • 1:06:59
    work at the site of Friday's attack one
  • 1:07:02
    of the victims has been named as Jack
  • 1:07:04
    Merritt he was attending a conference on
  • 1:07:06
    prison rehabilitation at the time and
  • 1:07:08
    250 kilometers away extensive searches
  • 1:07:11
    at the home of the attacker 28 year old
  • 1:07:14
    Osman Khan he served time for terror
  • 1:07:16
    offenses but was released early subject
  • 1:07:19
    to an extensive list of conditions and
  • 1:07:21
    it is this revelation that has stirred
  • 1:07:24
    debate in a country in the middle of a
  • 1:07:26
    general election campaign we want to
  • 1:07:29
    toughen up the sentences for serious and
  • 1:07:31
    violent offences and I've said for a
  • 1:07:34
    long time now that
  • 1:07:36
    the practice of automatic early release
  • 1:07:39
    where you cut a sentence in half and let
  • 1:07:41
    really serious violent offenders out
  • 1:07:43
    early simply isn't working and I think
  • 1:07:46
    you've had some very good evidence of
  • 1:07:49
    how that isn't working I'm afraid with
  • 1:07:51
    this case I think we need to look at
  • 1:07:53
    that what happens in the in the prisons
  • 1:07:55
    what happens with the Probation Service
  • 1:07:57
    and what happens with the role of the
  • 1:07:59
    parole board in this and make sure that
  • 1:08:02
    the sentences are appropriate but above
  • 1:08:04
    all is what happens inside the prison if
  • 1:08:07
    prisons continue to be understaffed
  • 1:08:10
    overcrowded and a lot of prisoners not
  • 1:08:14
    being properly supervised dand I think
  • 1:08:16
    there is a danger to everybody in the
  • 1:08:17
    future in a correction it wasn't the guy
  • 1:08:20
    with the tusks it was a different guy
  • 1:08:21
    James Ford now couple of funny things
  • 1:08:26
    here and let's just go to the conspiracy
  • 1:08:29
    side this was all staged another Russ
  • 1:08:31
    I'm good buddy that was stabbed and it
  • 1:08:33
    probably wasn't staged but let's just
  • 1:08:35
    say if it was staged here's some
  • 1:08:36
    elements I thought that yes okay I have
  • 1:08:39
    an element Nolan Ross yes okay
  • 1:08:41
    some guy in the middle of the bridge has
  • 1:08:44
    got an or wall tusks which I'd never
  • 1:08:48
    heard of before in my life nor wall
  • 1:08:52
    never heard it nor walls like a giant
  • 1:08:54
    sea otter it's like a sea lion kind of
  • 1:08:57
    animals like what a big giant want a big
  • 1:09:00
    thing and and apparently it's a tooth
  • 1:09:02
    that grows into a tusk huh and he sticks
  • 1:09:06
    straight down you can stab things with
  • 1:09:07
    it but he this guy's got this thing
  • 1:09:09
    which apparently was at some fish with
  • 1:09:10
    fishmongers Hall yeah grabbed off the
  • 1:09:13
    wall which is what I think I'd do to
  • 1:09:16
    like oh let me think of a weapon there
  • 1:09:18
    we go
  • 1:09:19
    so let me grab this noir wall tusks and
  • 1:09:22
    run down over the Brooklyn Bridge and
  • 1:09:24
    have this thing and be poking him with
  • 1:09:26
    it a little suspicious that did go
  • 1:09:29
    through all that trouble and discoveries
  • 1:09:31
    would have been very interesting another
  • 1:09:33
    guy's got a fire extinguisher where I
  • 1:09:35
    don't know where he lugged this thing
  • 1:09:36
    from it that was my favorite he loves
  • 1:09:40
    his fire city spraying the guy that was
  • 1:09:42
    great I think he caught them in the head
  • 1:09:43
    with it which is typical of if you have
  • 1:09:45
    a fire extinguisher you can do a head
  • 1:09:47
    shot with it you'll knock the guy out
  • 1:09:49
    and so there's some cops show up and the
  • 1:09:52
    guys pretty much subdued it seems to me
  • 1:09:54
    and they've taken to the ground but they
  • 1:09:57
    said clear away and the cops put four
  • 1:09:59
    slugs into him yeah if this was the part
  • 1:10:01
    that I especially when you're doing it
  • 1:10:03
    at close range and why I mean you're
  • 1:10:06
    afraid he's gonna blow himself up and
  • 1:10:09
    then you're gonna shoot in the area see
  • 1:10:11
    from that angle angle as well yeah if
  • 1:10:14
    you're gonna take this to light two
  • 1:10:16
    conspiracies I wouldn't it be possible
  • 1:10:18
    if this whole thing was staged and these
  • 1:10:19
    these boneheads had to be getting out of
  • 1:10:21
    there who knows about the guy was a tusk
  • 1:10:23
    I don't know about that but they the
  • 1:10:25
    whole thing could have been you know
  • 1:10:26
    just a crock of shit and he was carrying
  • 1:10:30
    a fake bomb vest well stop here is the
  • 1:10:34
    most annoying part of this when the
  • 1:10:37
    story broke everybody was not reporting
  • 1:10:40
    a fake bomb vest it was reported as a
  • 1:10:43
    hoax bomb vest which means something
  • 1:10:47
    very different
  • 1:10:48
    fake versus hoax is not the same thing
  • 1:10:51
    and why why were they saying hoax hoax
  • 1:10:54
    hoax monitor mayor's code the guy's got
  • 1:10:58
    a fake bomb vest is it possible that the
  • 1:11:01
    fake hoax bomb vest was actually a
  • 1:11:04
    bulletproof vest very likely that a good
  • 1:11:09
    one not as you know a Kevlar or one of
  • 1:11:12
    those kinds that they use in battle but
  • 1:11:14
    you could cover that up with some fake
  • 1:11:16
    bombs and so you pumped the four bullets
  • 1:11:18
    carefully into the bulletproof vest and
  • 1:11:20
    haul the guy off I like it
  • 1:11:24
    job well done I like it but but that's
  • 1:11:28
    why I think the term hoax was code
  • 1:11:33
    yeah could be let me just see if it was
  • 1:11:36
    the BBC as well who were reporting that
  • 1:11:38
    let's see USA Today hoax Telegraph
  • 1:11:45
    reported as hoax
  • 1:11:49
    New York Times as hoax and then that
  • 1:11:53
    that kind of went away but to me it was
  • 1:11:55
    I've never heard that reported as a hoax
  • 1:11:58
    because a hoax means intentionally
  • 1:12:00
    tricking people but yeah well actually
  • 1:12:04
    what is the difference between hoax and
  • 1:12:06
    fake
  • 1:12:09
    well a fake bomb this is just a fake bit
  • 1:12:12
    just objectively what it is a hoax bomb
  • 1:12:15
    this would be one in two supposed to I'm
  • 1:12:19
    sorry well hoax the actual definition is
  • 1:12:22
    a humorous or malicious deception so if
  • 1:12:27
    it was hoax the guy meant it as a joke
  • 1:12:30
    no malicious
  • 1:12:34
    that wasn't the term though it wasn't no
  • 1:12:36
    malicious deception you just read the
  • 1:12:38
    definitions in there
  • 1:12:39
    okay now humorous or malicious malicious
  • 1:12:42
    yeah right malicious
  • 1:12:44
    okay well I just found that to be odd
  • 1:12:47
    and I like your theory though none of it
  • 1:12:49
    made sense it made zero sense to be
  • 1:12:51
    shooting the guy from what was it maybe
  • 1:12:53
    four feet right there boom boom boom and
  • 1:12:57
    and maybe as you say it was too you know
  • 1:13:00
    it had to be some kind of item payment
  • 1:13:02
    that would really hurt if you hit
  • 1:13:04
    someone even when the best from that
  • 1:13:05
    distance but you want to aim perfectly
  • 1:13:09
    at the vest so maybe that's why it was
  • 1:13:10
    so close
  • 1:13:11
    but regardless very convened for the
  • 1:13:15
    election let's just put that out there
  • 1:13:17
    whether it was real or not
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    orange cuz we're under threat from the
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    terrorists
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    I missed the old alert system it was so
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    much fun wasn't it the one that never
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    changed it was just pretty permanently
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    orange orange I'd like to thank you for
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    it in find the right seat could be a
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    GABA goofer all you know where I would
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    like to sit as the savour sabor savor
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    Sabo I don't know save or of the Yadkin
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    Valley grapes
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    hmm in recognition of a surprisingly
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    spectacular vintage being produced in
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    the region this is a wine you should
  • 1:18:58
    rape you should know this I should know
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    but I don't
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    where's Yadkin Valley I don't know that
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    either
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    how do some magic in the valley how you
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    spell it
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    yad ki in Yadkin yet a Atkin North
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    Carolina oh it's a North Carolina
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    product oh no North Carolina some it is
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    I'm gonna tell you on this side here I
  • 1:19:24
    noticed when I first went to Bordeaux in
  • 1:19:26
    1973 and a lot of the vineyards that
  • 1:19:31
    weren't the great vintage where every
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    grape euros worth thousands of dollars
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    but in many of the small vineyards they
  • 1:19:37
    had side by side growing with the grapes
  • 1:19:40
    in Bordeaux this is I don't think you'd
  • 1:19:42
    see this anymore and I don't think I've
  • 1:19:43
    seen it since tobacco ah so you have a
  • 1:19:48
    villa vineyard in a tobacco field mm-hmm
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    all in the Bordeaux area
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    you can't I have always said what that's
  • 1:19:56
    interesting that you can grow tobacco
  • 1:19:57
    and where you were these grapes and I've
  • 1:20:00
    always had in the back of my mind so I
  • 1:20:02
    went to North Carolina which is a
  • 1:20:03
    tobacco growing state
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    and found that they were switching a lot
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    of these tobacco fields to grapes and I
  • 1:20:11
    visited a lot of wineries there I
  • 1:20:13
    visited more barbecue places than
  • 1:20:15
    wineries I will admit but I went to a
  • 1:20:17
    lot of whiners and the wine was quite
  • 1:20:19
    good and it was you know I was made with
  • 1:20:22
    kind of a lot of lack of self-assurance
  • 1:20:25
    and low self esteem you know is this
  • 1:20:28
    anything you know well you're from
  • 1:20:29
    California you must know about this
  • 1:20:31
    so here try this and try that and try
  • 1:20:33
    this and as if everyone from California
  • 1:20:36
    is at wine expert and in fact the wine
  • 1:20:39
    was very good and I think they can grow
  • 1:20:41
    some good grapes up there in North
  • 1:20:43
    Carolina I think eventually it would be
  • 1:20:44
    seen as one of the great wine growing
  • 1:20:46
    errors of the world
  • 1:20:47
    I think the tobacco has something to do
  • 1:20:49
    with it it's in the few minutes in the
  • 1:20:51
    earth very nice but I don't know what
  • 1:20:53
    this is sham Boorstin is wealthy
  • 1:20:56
    abortion is a grape from France
  • 1:20:58
    originally it's probably a good wine
  • 1:21:02
    they're making us some of the areas I
  • 1:21:04
    noticed this when I was in Texas will
  • 1:21:10
    appreciate some of this so I'm in the
  • 1:21:13
    hill country going they got a bunch of
  • 1:21:15
    wineries there they're all over the
  • 1:21:16
    place and vodka distilleries yes we have
  • 1:21:18
    a lot of anything on the vodka yeah yes
  • 1:21:22
    one of the best in the in the world and
  • 1:21:24
    so I went to all these little these
  • 1:21:26
    wineries I didn't buy anything because
  • 1:21:28
    it was there for one thing they're
  • 1:21:30
    overpriced and they're not that good but
  • 1:21:33
    it's interesting that they've taken a
  • 1:21:36
    liking to growing Tempranillo outside of
  • 1:21:40
    Austin Texas and every winery made some
  • 1:21:42
    of it and it seems to take take well to
  • 1:21:46
    Texan Texas yeah and Tempranillo is the
  • 1:21:49
    grape this mostly grown in Spain to make
  • 1:21:51
    the great Riojas and other wines but
  • 1:21:54
    this Louis so Texas has potential for
  • 1:21:57
    that particular grape anyway onward
  • 1:21:59
    sorry everybody loves it John this is
  • 1:22:05
    from meetup in one of these more
  • 1:22:06
    established wineries in the spring of