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1194: Mint19

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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November 28th, 2019
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Executive Producers: John Klene, Sir Hubert, knight of the Wide Wild East of the Middle Kingdom, uncle of the tiger, Sir Cal, Sir Code Monkey, Sir Matt Viscount of Victoria, Sir Hashtag, Sir Ray Jacobsen, Sir 10t, Duke of the Seventh Federal Reserve District, Sir Warren Carroll, Dame G Money

Associate Executive Producers: Matthew Ogley, Baronet Stephen of Oswego, Earl Sir Dave Fugazzotto, Myles Putnam, Roger Wehrli, Kristine Codega, Robert Simpson, James W Gilkeson, Zander Wallachia, Sir Maxine Waters Gravel, Sir Dirt Farmer of Illinois

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    it's a nightmare Adam curry is no agenda
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    [Music]
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    in the morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm loving my mint 19.2 I'm
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    Jesse boy it's it's our it's our
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    biannual events ladies and gentlemen
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    every two years Adam and John will try
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    once again to install and live with
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    Linux and how are you doing well a
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    couple of things one if you run mint or
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    I'm sorry yeah MIT nine point yes
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    nineteen point two I did and I had to
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    install that and test it because it's
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    code name Tina
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    exactly like that's a sign from the gods
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    I need to try this yes I did travel bit
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    worked out for if you had not answered
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    correctly I knew this one yeah I did I
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    divert row machine installed it all hey
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    it's still a little too heavy for what I
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    want what it were you're running it now
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    what not I just this moment cuz I still
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    have the Skype issue oh yeah quite a
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    couple of things I would recommend
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    people would listen to this team as well
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    do the following go track down ultimate
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    mint 19 okay it's on SourceForge and
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    it's a three gigabyte to install that
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    includes about a hundred apps all built
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    in and all to and it's pretty complete
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    these days isn't it well this particular
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    ultimate mid-nineteen which is a year
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    old uh-huh but they claimed to whoever's
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    doing it they claim that they will
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    support it till 2023 it's the LTS yes
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    that's correct
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    yeah and it's live it's live so you can
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    just put it from the cd-rom but it
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    it's unbelievably complete I know it's
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    got everything is good it's got
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    everything you once you get bored you
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    figure out first of all you gotta figure
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    out where are all these apps and then
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    you realize they're all in the Start
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    menu you know what I've noticed and I
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    have my own Linux experiences over the
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    past few days that because of the the
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    historical culture of Linux because it's
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    open-source allows for incredible
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    customization on everything I mean you
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    can reset key key shortcuts you can move
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    stuff around and of course what this
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    results in is a lot of preference panels
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    and nothing and you really gotta learn
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    it because you're like well I do it's
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    like I'm using that clause male it's
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    like we have preferences and preferences
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    for this account and then tools you have
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    all this other stuff so but once you
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    figure it out it's quite enjoyable
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    because you can actually make stuff work
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    the way you want it to work
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    well it's old-fashioned
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    is that what I say when I say
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    old-fashioned I mean old-fashioned in
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    the sense of what you just described
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    that was you know never allowed by the
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    Mac users and then no oh no they always
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    go back and forth of the PC user well we
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    could do this we can do that and we can
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    do that and then pretty soon we do we
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    could do it but no one would do it and
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    so it just all fell by the wayside and
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    now Linux comes back with a really that
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    old-fashioned approach of you want to do
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    this you want to do that it has probably
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    too many competing settings and this are
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    all kind of preset on the ultimate mint
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    which I would recommend people to start
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    with that yeah but the another thing I
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    renters are these packaging operations
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    first of all I I found a Skype for this
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    it's like just to the Skype on on
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    lubuntu God people are like what the
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    hell these guys doing
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    I tested Skype ladies and gentlemen it
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    was actually pretty good it I didn't
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    have any problems didn't have any issues
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    sound was good least on the test Skype
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    service sounds boy I should probably try
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    this because mint is supposed to be very
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    amenable to Skype but I'd wanted to put
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    it through a snap package yeah these
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    over here so I'm looking into this you
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    know say what is the hell said I look up
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    snappy you know I surprised manager oh
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    okay yeah and then you can oh wait a
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    minute yes okay snaps there's a bunch of
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    these the problem that I find that you
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    know Linux is confusing because there's
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    a million distros and they're all
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    competing with with each other I thought
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    this was a great idea have a package
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    manager that you just write code for
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    that and then you can put it on all the
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    different distros well the package
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    managers went into competition with each
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    other and there's like 20 of them yeah I
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    know they all hate each other and this
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    doesn't work I'm still kind of an an apt
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    and apt-get guy but that's just by the
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    way you don't have to type - get anymore
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    just apt that's what that's what I've
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    used as historically well I just got
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    yeah I'm kind of intrigued by this
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    there's app image and auto package and
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    flat pack and zero install no I don't
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    know about that one oh yeah there's a
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    bunch of these things it's a nightmare
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    so what I would
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    realized night and I I tried xfce I
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    tried the alter them the same mint you
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    have and I'm gonna really like the
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    minimal install Lubuntu it does have the
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    full office you know it's got your
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    little players for you know audio and
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    video and those kinds of things but
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    really I'm email and a web browser and I
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    don't need it and no I don't need any
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    other apps I don't do any photo stuff so
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    that's all and it runs fast from the
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    from the USB drive in a virtual machine
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    which is even more interesting
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    so there's another layer I can't wait to
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    get it installed on the hard drive
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    itself because then it'll really fly
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    it's fast in fact in some ways it's and
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    now I understand what the problem is
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    with all these you know like Windows but
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    particularly the Mac made it so
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    beautiful so easy everything is smooth
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    and that's what's eating up all your
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    resources that but your screen is eating
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    up all the resources just all this all
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    this overhead and I really don't care
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    you know the DUI is growls our resources
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    are for yes anyway that's your Linux
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    update everybody thanks for tuning in to
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    there's anyone left on the stream well
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    Happy Thanksgiving John Happy
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    Thanksgiving to you and happy
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    Thanksgiving everybody that's actually
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    listening today we probably don't have a
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    lot and we probably will have not a lot
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    of downloads but I want to thank
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    everyone yes and now we need to that you
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    are traditional traditional history of
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    Thanksgiving which is something new to
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    it so I'm looking over my you know the
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    true damage I'm the Grinch of
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    Thanksgiving and I just want to mention
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    I read it from an old blog post from
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    2005 I'm always amused by the
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    cock-and-bull story about Thanksgiving
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    about pilgrims Mae's turkeys and Indians
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    when the holiday stems from an Abe
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    Lincoln proclamation at the behest of a
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    magazine editor the road to today's
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    Thanksgiving has a rocky road in fact
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    I'm not sure when the
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    bologna began about the pilgrims and the
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    Indians actually took hold in the
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    folklore but I find it offensive that is
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    taught in schools as fact it's
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    considered fact by everyone now did you
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    hear Trump's version of oh no you have a
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    clip well he did the history of the of
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    the of the pardoning of the turkey which
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    goes back goes back to Lincoln and then
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    of course that's now my understanding is
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    actually George Bush that really
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    invented well listen to this
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    as we gather this week with loved ones
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    across our beautiful land we give thanks
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    to God for the many gifts that he has
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    bestowed upon us today we also come
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    together to honor the beautiful
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    feathered friend to the noble turkey now
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    that's a beauty it's said that Abraham
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    Lincoln was the first president to spare
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    a Thanksgiving turkey at the request of
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    his son in 1947 President Harry Truman
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    accepted the first annual National
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    Thanksgiving turkey in the decades that
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    followed presidents from Kennedy to
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    Reagan would show mercy to their birds
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    but it was George HW Bush who first
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    issued an official pardon in keeping
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    with that tradition today I will issue a
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    pardon now did you see the pardon
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    ceremony
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    I saw the only only the part where the
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    guest trying to a peach yeah I'll just
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    play it out to a pair of very handsome
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    birds butter and his alternate bread
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    would have been funny if he would
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    diamondden silk that would have been
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    really cool that's true look at you
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    their names were chosen by the students
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    of Harold's Christian Academy in North
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    Carolina great state thankfully bread
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    and butter have been specially raised by
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    the Jacksons to remain calm under any
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    condition which will be very important
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    because they've already received
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    subpoenas to appear it's Adam shifts
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    basement on Thursday
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    you know how whenever he's bitching
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    about something during his campaign
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    during his rallies he'll say it's true
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    it's true and he does it here he does
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    the biggest lie that everyone knows is
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    lost bent on Thursday it's true people
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    have it seems the Democrats are accusing
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    me of being too soft or Turkey but bread
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    and butter I should note that unlike
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    previous witnesses you and I have
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    actually met it's very unusual in any
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    event I expect this pardon will be a
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    very popular one with the media after
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    all turkeys are closely related to a
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    vultures I don't know if I like that
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    line but this is speaking the writers
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    room on the fly cold reading his jokes
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    well just and I want to get back to
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    Thanksgiving but I just have a short
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    clip he did this rally in Sunrise
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    Florida and he signaled something
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    spectacular which a number of producers
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    caught and I was I was very surprised
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    and I can't decipher it have a listen
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    they'd like to try in to mean always
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    watch the world this is that let me tell
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    you we're winning you're smarter you
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    better look in your shopper
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    and they call themselves a leaf but if
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    they're elite than where the super elite
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    they talk about these people that are
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    elite that you know that are running I
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    mean have you been watching these
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    debates
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    what's elite about that guy what's elite
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    there's nothing elite but we're doing
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    great we're gonna have a tremendous
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    victory but when I ever perfect call
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    think of it
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    33 what they get away with and don't
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    forget explain this to me he throws the
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    code 33 in in the middle of a sentence
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    for no reason it makes no sense
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    listening getting watched elite there's
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    nothing elite but we're doing great
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    we're gonna have a tremendous victory
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    but when I have a perfect call think of
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    it
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    33 what they get away with 33 what
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    Wow the thing is it was so well done I
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    didn't catch it the first time as we did
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    we point out on the show we endlessly
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    yes yes than once because I wouldn't
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    have caught that unless I'd clipped it
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    and then played it actually but when I
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    ever perfect call think of it 33 what
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    they get away with I find it peculiar
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    all of a sudden he throws in a thirty
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    three just a random Lou random lucious I
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    guess talking to you right now 33 thing
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    you know I just would do that hmm now
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    this there was a reason after the show
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    I'm gonna have to just talk and talk and
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    talk 33 and then throw 3-3 and maybe it
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    was saying something in reverse speech
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    maybe I'll have to reverse it after the
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    show
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    listen I don't know is the if I found it
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    extremely odd anyway thanks back to
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    Thanksgiving yes so Thanksgiving is a
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    you know a holiday was kind of created
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    it was they did have some one dinner or
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    parent in two 1600s with some Indians
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    and there's some cartoons about but it's
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    just propagated as some sort of a
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    celebration that began back when in fact
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    it was referring mostly to Thanksgiving
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    for the soldiers who weren't killed in
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    one of these wars especially the Civil
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    War didn't became promoted by some
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    busybodies in the 30s and 40s it became
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    a tradition after a while it was more of
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    a patriotic thing around the turn of the
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    century and I puts a couple of pictures
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    in the newsletter showing this there was
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    a lot of flag waving and stuff that goes
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    on it's been kind of that's been kind of
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    denigrated and now we want who deep
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    there's even talk of this thing called
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    friendsgiving well and you made a very
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    good point in in the newsletter and as I
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    was reflecting upon that the the
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    transition from Thanksgiving to
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    friendsgiving he's made perhaps part of
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    really a globalist
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    I mean it's not much different than
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    trying to diminish and and really get
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    rid of the Dutch tradition of the black
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    Petes in Calamba Christopher Columbus it
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    used to be a big deal particularly with
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    some immigrant groups now he's a racist
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    and you know it's indigenous or labor
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    this is its it appears more to be a
  • 15:04
    global push to just remove any national
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    traditions that you may have because
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    we're you know we are the world we are
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    the children we're all one global family
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    and this has to go
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    and the friendsgiving I it really
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    removes at least the original idea of
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    hey you know we we we went through some
  • 15:27
    hardships we almost died and we made it
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    we came out the other end and here's
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    this great country which yep true or not
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    doesn't matter that's the story like
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    Santa Claus isn't real either but we
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    still have traditions and stories and
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    stuff and there's a meaning behind it
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    and that's it and the whole idea of a
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    thankfulness but it's the wrong part it
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    should be you can't even do it that way
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    I mean Thanksgiving is you're giving
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    thanks and what are you giving thanks
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    for well you know stuffing your own life
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    and for like today if today we're
  • 16:00
    friends giving it would be it wouldn't
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    make sense for me to say I'm really
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    thankful that my dad passed away
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    yesterday so I'm thankful that he that
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    he literally passed away you know he's
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    slipped away
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    and I'm thankful he was my dad
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    friendsgiving couldn't even mention it
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    you know that about you sorry for your
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    loss but you never see him but you know
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    he's not well I live he was a baby
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    I'm very handsome yeah I'm very happy
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    that I saw him a couple months ago when
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    I'm one of my critters yeah no I saw him
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    and I had to seen him in years cuz he
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    was the last 10 he was in a home and the
  • 16:39
    last three he was nice toast ready for
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    what I understand quite the character
  • 16:44
    well I have a lot of his humorous timing
  • 16:47
    I look in the mirror and like oh man I
  • 16:49
    look like him too dammit at least but he
  • 16:52
    had his all his hair you know I kept his
  • 16:53
    hair but but back to your point yes it
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    was friendsgiving I'm disappointed you
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    didn't say love and light that would
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    have made me feel a little better I
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    never say that because for some reason I
  • 17:06
    can't pull it off
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    thanks for anything but you know they're
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    gonna what's gonna happen is they're
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    gonna reverse engineer this into some
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    sort of an International Harvest
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    Festival
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    so it's nervous fast and this thing
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    let's see how that harvest we'll have to
  • 17:27
    see how that goes not that I have a clip
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    but following on with the Dutch the
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    Germans and the French farmers are now
  • 17:35
    blocking highways all over Western
  • 17:39
    Europe with their tractors because
  • 17:41
    they're done with it they're done with
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    all of this but they may not be a
  • 17:45
    harvest anymore well I don't know what's
  • 17:48
    going on weather triggers every tractor
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    in France apparently is on one of the
  • 17:53
    freeways in Paris what do you mean I
  • 17:56
    mean you have you seen those pictures I
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    mean this house is attracted what most
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    things should be out killing Germany had
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    eight and a half thousand tractors
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    I mean it's fantastic the farmers are
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    revolting it is a farmers revolt and no
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    one is no one is paying any attention to
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    it we are well okay you're right
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    but turn on the news and tell me you see
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    one story about this it's ridiculous
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    no it's Trump Trump Trump and PG but
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    even in those countries themselves the
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    it's yeah it'll be front page for a
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    minute and then okay it's done and then
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    that's if it didn't happen
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    well back back to Thanksgiving yes I
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    just had the one final thing every year
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    I report you know something about the
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    bogus nests of the whole thing which I
  • 18:47
    because I'm playing into the into this
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    whole globalist notion by doing this
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    report but I got another new I added a
  • 18:55
    new twist to it because then I don't
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    know how I grant into this and started
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    looking at cuz we have turkeys all over
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    town and looking at and by the way the
  • 19:03
    wild turkeys out of Florida oh my god or
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    those things get the biggest tail
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    display it looks like a wicker basket
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    it's dynamite
  • 19:10
    Osceola rather they're called so I got
  • 19:13
    into reading too much about turkeys and
  • 19:14
    it turns out because this was brought up
  • 19:17
    at our dinner table a number of times
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    and I think I've heard it and maybe she
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    even taught in schools is that Ben
  • 19:24
    Franklin wanted the turkey to be the
  • 19:27
    national bird rather than the eagle yes
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    I've heard this story total bullcrap
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    Ben Franklin also flew a kite in a storm
  • 19:36
    and got electrocuted so well that could
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    be both got to but this is total bull
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    crap and it was created and it actually
  • 19:42
    became the thing in schools around 1960
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    to tell me it was an ad agency no it was
  • 19:49
    a cover of a New Yorker magazine where
  • 19:52
    they made the turkey and then they
  • 19:53
    related the story and this story got
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    into vogue and it became like a thick
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    just became folklore that became a truth
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    which is a real problem in this country
  • 20:04
    and everywhere around the world were
  • 20:05
    something somebody passes that would
  • 20:07
    that make sense oh yeah frankly he'd be
  • 20:09
    that kind of guy and they they had us
  • 20:11
    they had a letter from him to his
  • 20:14
    daughter or somebody and he's moaning
  • 20:16
    and groaning about the bald eagle being
  • 20:18
    that the two hoots he thinks is a
  • 20:20
    chicken shit bird because it steals from
  • 20:23
    other birds that don't work it goes on
  • 20:26
    and on about this and then he casually
  • 20:28
    says you know the turkey would be a
  • 20:29
    better bird it's at least as an honest
  • 20:31
    bird but that was about as far as you
  • 20:34
    went with it he never protested the
  • 20:36
    establishment okay so well then it was
  • 20:39
    like a New York Times of the day because
  • 20:41
    that's what they do draw a conclusion
  • 20:42
    yeah office allusion was drawn that
  • 20:45
    turkey emblem with on the seal is put on
  • 20:48
    the cover of 1962 New Yorker and the
  • 20:52
    rest is history all of a sudden this is
  • 20:54
    a fact Snopes should have a debunking of
  • 20:57
    that it should be very clear check Falls
  • 20:59
    there's another one there's a second
  • 21:01
    myth tied to the alterations President
  • 21:03
    Truman made to the presidential seal
  • 21:05
    it's sometimes said that the eagle on
  • 21:08
    the presidential seal changes during
  • 21:10
    times of war to face the arrows instead
  • 21:13
    of the Olive Branch oh this one is
  • 21:16
    unquestionably false although somewhat
  • 21:19
    understandable from 1916 to 45 the Eagle
  • 21:21
    didn't face the arrows a version that
  • 21:24
    can still be seen on the resolute desk
  • 21:25
    but it was changed when Truman existing
  • 21:28
    issued executive order nicely this is an
  • 21:30
    executive order nine six four six
  • 21:33
    modifying the seal so that the eagle
  • 21:35
    faced it Olive Branch a gesture symbolic
  • 21:38
    of the post-war nation's dedication to
  • 21:40
    peace
  • 21:44
    we're full of information on this show
  • 21:49
    the turkey thing has got to go - that's
  • 21:53
    it no it's gonna be a problem you know
  • 21:55
    there's this new movie out in which I
  • 21:57
    don't think it's gonna be in theaters
  • 21:59
    even but it's James Cameron aren't
  • 22:01
    Arnold Schwarzenegger like a whole slew
  • 22:04
    of big names and it's called game
  • 22:07
    changers and yeah you can host the
  • 22:11
    viewing and it's a whole movement I
  • 22:13
    haven't quite figured out who's behind
  • 22:15
    it but it's something of the day and and
  • 22:18
    you know I'm sure this will include
  • 22:20
    Turkey by next year they ate a lot of
  • 22:26
    meat they show this commercials mistake
  • 22:30
    that's what amis selling that idea that
  • 22:34
    grilled man ate meat serious man but you
  • 22:37
    got to understand that's marketing this
  • 22:39
    is based in reality I've been teaching
  • 22:43
    fighting techniques to government
  • 22:44
    agencies for more than 15 years van I
  • 22:47
    got injured unable to teach for at least
  • 22:50
    six months I spent more than a thousand
  • 22:52
    hours of studying science on recovery
  • 22:54
    and nutrition and stumbled across a
  • 22:56
    study about the Roman gladiators
  • 22:58
    declared eaters were predominantly
  • 23:00
    vegetarian how could the original
  • 23:02
    professional fighters eating only plants
  • 23:08
    when I made the switch to a plant-based
  • 23:10
    diet probably fucked my third Olympic
  • 23:12
    team I broke two American Records a man
  • 23:16
    I should have done this a long while ago
  • 23:19
    when I would plant bass I wasn't sure if
  • 23:22
    I was gonna survive and I actually
  • 23:24
    became like a machine one of the biggest
  • 23:29
    misconceptions in sports nutrition is
  • 23:30
    that we have to have animal protein to
  • 23:33
    perform at a high level that's just not
  • 23:34
    true someone asked me how could you get
  • 23:39
    as strong as an ox without eating any
  • 23:41
    meat and my answer was have you ever
  • 23:43
    seen an all eating meat
  • 23:45
    [Music]
  • 23:49
    there you go it's a game-changer man
  • 23:52
    plant-based all the cool guys are doing
  • 23:55
    it yeah I saw I was Jay had been turned
  • 24:01
    on to this video and she said you gotta
  • 24:03
    watch this
  • 24:04
    did you eat just I watched as much as I
  • 24:07
    as I could
  • 24:10
    well as you saw obviously the problem
  • 24:14
    with it is it it it's just at some point
  • 24:18
    you it's like okay I get your point
  • 24:21
    and you just get sick of it it's just
  • 24:23
    it's it's almost like they're insecure
  • 24:27
    about their point yes there's plenty of
  • 24:29
    athletes who are vegetarians that do
  • 24:31
    very well they have a very generally
  • 24:34
    speaking that it's not something you can
  • 24:36
    do when you're growing up or it's not
  • 24:37
    something necessarily that you can do
  • 24:39
    like for example we I have a I know
  • 24:42
    people that have dogs that put on a
  • 24:44
    vegetarian diet the dogs have all kinds
  • 24:46
    of healthy dogs yeah you can't do that
  • 24:49
    that's cat so you can feed him anything
  • 24:54
    we had a story about that where the the
  • 24:58
    veterinarians were saying no you can't
  • 24:59
    do that you can't put your these animals
  • 25:02
    need to some they have a particular diet
  • 25:05
    you can't make a plant-based only
  • 25:08
    and they don't talk about that in this
  • 25:10
    in the show and Schwarzenegger is
  • 25:12
    disingenuous because he would he was a
  • 25:14
    big monster bodybuilder he was not a
  • 25:16
    vegetarian no uh-uh I mean there are
  • 25:20
    vegetarian athletes who didn't perform
  • 25:23
    as well well I mean they or they were
  • 25:26
    subject to all kinds of weird injuries
  • 25:28
    so you get but in yeah if you're
  • 25:32
    conscientious you know what to do and
  • 25:34
    how to eat and get all the right amino
  • 25:36
    acids and everything in your diet
  • 25:37
    through plants you can do that with a
  • 25:39
    lot of sesame seeds it's fine you go out
  • 25:41
    and eat that way and be that way so what
  • 25:43
    what dimers doesn't make tit doesn't
  • 25:45
    make any difference to me no but I don't
  • 25:48
    get the point it was the point of this
  • 25:50
    exercise well the point is from my
  • 25:54
    perspective it's working this is
  • 25:58
    indoctrination and it's without a doubt
  • 26:00
    agenda21 driven it is you know it's the
  • 26:04
    impossible meat it's the I can't believe
  • 26:07
    it's cost more than real meat oh yeah
  • 26:09
    but you find that to be disturbing and
  • 26:11
    it has a bunch of calories it's not like
  • 26:13
    the burger is catalyzed in all kinds of
  • 26:15
    chemicals you might as well be eating
  • 26:17
    Soylent blue or green know so I think
  • 26:20
    Green is people man oh I'm sorry
  • 26:22
    and one day if and we should be careful
  • 26:25
    the dogs will turn on us eventually
  • 26:28
    people understand this you know already
  • 26:31
    with it and this is all part of the same
  • 26:32
    thing you know dogs are people too and
  • 26:34
    boy we tell them what to eat and we tell
  • 26:37
    them when to go to the bathroom what are
  • 26:38
    they going to turn on us you know fairly
  • 26:41
    gonna eat you tonight they're gonna me
  • 26:42
    I'm gonna you and I just learned that
  • 26:47
    cats
  • 26:49
    technically by European law this is big
  • 26:53
    news now in in the EU
  • 26:57
    cats in Europe by EU law aquinnah this
  • 27:00
    was all written up in the Journal of
  • 27:01
    environmental law are not allowed to be
  • 27:04
    outside untethered you are not allowed
  • 27:07
    to have an outdoor cat in the European
  • 27:09
    Union because they are a danger to
  • 27:10
    almost three hundred and seventy
  • 27:13
    different types of animals yeah
  • 27:16
    including bubonic plague history over
  • 27:22
    there in the EU no man the creating
  • 27:24
    heading no cat thing going on back
  • 27:27
    during the era of the Black Death and
  • 27:29
    they turns out that the cats could have
  • 27:31
    controlled the whole thing by but no no
  • 27:34
    the cats were bad oh that's interesting
  • 27:36
    so the the black plague or the Black
  • 27:41
    Death what was it was the black the
  • 27:43
    plague Black Plague Black Death so
  • 27:46
    there's information that that could have
  • 27:48
    been avoided if they had let the key if
  • 27:49
    they had had cats running around yeah
  • 27:54
    they didn't have any cats running around
  • 27:56
    cuz cats were evil they were it was
  • 27:59
    they're in some for example in my
  • 28:02
    neighborhood just on the side of a hill
  • 28:04
    there's a lot of rodents in the area
  • 28:07
    there's Gophers and there's mice and
  • 28:09
    there's some rats but not as many as
  • 28:12
    there are mice and and we used to have a
  • 28:14
    an old cat woman across the street that
  • 28:18
    has all this feral cats that she would
  • 28:20
    feed and so there's be a like ah
  • 28:23
    probably 20 of them and then another
  • 28:26
    neighbor thought kindly on the woman had
  • 28:29
    the caps captured and neutered hmm so
  • 28:32
    they wouldn't you wouldn't just go crazy
  • 28:34
    around here so but we did have these 20
  • 28:36
    or so feral cats they're all over the
  • 28:38
    place and there was no mice no of course
  • 28:41
    not no mice now the cats since they were
  • 28:45
    neutered it all died off there's no more
  • 28:46
    feral cats in the neighborhood this took
  • 28:49
    place over a long period
  • 28:50
    now there's mice you gotta get my
  • 28:52
    mousetraps and glue traps and everyone
  • 28:54
    smells good so much you get one mouse or
  • 28:56
    two in the house and this is disturbing
  • 28:59
    you know in future you might want to do
  • 29:02
    a little tutorial on how to get rid of
  • 29:04
    how to get rid of mice we've already
  • 29:06
    done the ants so yeah well I've hear
  • 29:09
    something
  • 29:10
    Tibet I don't want to discuss the best
  • 29:13
    way because everybody moans and groans
  • 29:15
    about it well you're not allowed to
  • 29:17
    stomp on them anymore you know there's a
  • 29:18
    the president no the president just
  • 29:21
    passed a law against me can't stomp on
  • 29:25
    yes yeah there's a let me see I have it
  • 29:27
    here somewhere he he passed the law and
  • 29:31
    it what it's the anti animal crush act I
  • 29:34
    think I'm looking for it now because
  • 29:36
    apparently there's a lot of people who
  • 29:39
    film and post to online video sites
  • 29:43
    videos of them crushing small animals
  • 29:47
    for fun crushing him to death yeah yeah
  • 29:52
    yeah preventing animal cruelty and
  • 29:54
    torture Act which I'm sure can easily be
  • 29:57
    expanded to you know having a dog or in
  • 30:00
    the house or a cat outside yes it's the
  • 30:04
    pact Act here it is it should be
  • 30:06
    unlawful for any person to purposely
  • 30:08
    engage in animal crushing in or
  • 30:11
    affecting interstate or foreign commerce
  • 30:13
    or within the special maritime and
  • 30:16
    territorial jurisdiction of the United
  • 30:18
    States
  • 30:19
    anyone who intends or has reason to know
  • 30:21
    that the animal crush video will be
  • 30:24
    distributed in or using a means of
  • 30:26
    facility of interstate or foreign
  • 30:28
    commerce commerce or the animal crush
  • 30:31
    video is distributed online
  • 30:35
    and
  • 30:38
    so you are not allowed to post videos or
  • 30:41
    even intend to produce a video
  • 30:46
    that displays conduct or visual
  • 30:50
    depiction of conduct that is the
  • 30:53
    slaughter of animal instead is okay
  • 30:55
    there's a lot of things you can do so
  • 30:56
    you can stomp on a fish if you catch it
  • 30:58
    if it's for food if it's for research if
  • 31:03
    you're euthanizing the animal which they
  • 31:05
    also go in detail about but apparently
  • 31:08
    it this is so rampant and it may even be
  • 31:11
    a sexual fetish that people film this
  • 31:16
    crushing of animals and post it online
  • 31:18
    yeah yes wants to see that well enough
  • 31:24
    people that they had to make a law about
  • 31:26
    it
  • 31:28
    it must be a pretty big deal is that
  • 31:31
    still out in Crescent cuz I have to do
  • 31:34
    that with a southern accent because we
  • 31:35
    know the only southern horse way yes of
  • 31:38
    course yeah now is that on the Federer
  • 31:41
    is that what we can see these videos
  • 31:44
    probably hey I just want to point out
  • 31:48
    one thing by the way about this the Ben
  • 31:50
    Franklin myth and some of these other
  • 31:52
    ones the guy writing about the men--the
  • 31:54
    myths this Jimmy Stamp he was writing in
  • 31:57
    the Smithsonian about him and he see I
  • 32:00
    got a read this sentence about because
  • 32:02
    he's writing about myths and he says in
  • 32:07
    part by a 1962 illustration for the
  • 32:09
    cover by so-and-so who imagined that the
  • 32:11
    Great Seal of the United States might
  • 32:13
    look what it might look like if a turkey
  • 32:15
    did become our national emblem above
  • 32:17
    image got a picture however while it's
  • 32:19
    hard to imagine that overstuffed
  • 32:22
    flightless bird in our on our currency
  • 32:24
    and the president's lectern he goes on
  • 32:27
    and on it's not a flightless bird this
  • 32:29
    is another myth the turkey is they're
  • 32:33
    very flight 'full yeah they can get in
  • 32:36
    fact they can fly to higher altitudes
  • 32:38
    and we normally see them flight normally
  • 32:40
    use him it's a pretty frightening thing
  • 32:42
    to see
  • 32:45
    they're not really very very aerodynamic
  • 32:47
    looking nobody they can get up I was
  • 32:50
    reading all about turkeys for some dumb
  • 32:52
    reason and I was reading that many
  • 32:54
    turkeys can get up to you know they can
  • 32:57
    fly at altitude okay the more you know
  • 33:03
    on the No Agenda show beautiful let's
  • 33:06
    get into some some nutjob stuff I got
  • 33:10
    some nutjob stuff that's all that we got
  • 33:12
    for this show well now we got I got more
  • 33:14
    stuff I got multi parters I did some
  • 33:17
    more live I have multi have one
  • 33:18
    multi-partner first identified this over
  • 33:22
    on the no agenda reddit I made the
  • 33:25
    mistake of checking in once again it was
  • 33:28
    more to see how the browser rendered on
  • 33:29
    reddit can and so the this term that's
  • 33:35
    been floating out there is now rampant
  • 33:38
    is that Trump is a cult
  • 33:41
    oh you're here this why I've got that I
  • 33:43
    got a whole bit about this oh uh what is
  • 33:47
    it with clips but but wait wife clips
  • 33:50
    too well why don't you do it wait wait
  • 33:52
    wait more importantly what is the GUI
  • 33:56
    you're using for your Linux
  • 33:59
    the GUI for Linux I'm using
  • 34:07
    xfce I think how I'm using cinnamon oh
  • 34:10
    yeah okay yeah yeah that I'm talking
  • 34:13
    about
  • 34:14
    he was talking about the windows manager
  • 34:16
    no I'm just using Lubuntu which is
  • 34:18
    minimal it has almost it's it's nothing
  • 34:20
    it's not command-line there has to be so
  • 34:22
    I have a command line - of course yeah
  • 34:24
    of course everyone does it's just it's
  • 34:26
    nothing it's nothing it's very is very
  • 34:29
    small so I'll send you a screenshot all
  • 34:32
    right now back to the cult if I don't
  • 34:34
    want to okay I got three clips well
  • 34:38
    dunno why don't you do your cult thing
  • 34:39
    and I'll play my clips okay well I'll
  • 34:41
    start with one clip which I think you
  • 34:44
    don't have and this is so besides seeing
  • 34:46
    it everywhere in our own group people
  • 34:48
    accusing no agenda producers of being a
  • 34:51
    cult the cult of Trump I'm noticing in
  • 34:54
    the mainstream which of course is where
  • 34:56
    these jamokes pick it up from and I I
  • 35:00
    would like to point out this was I got a
  • 35:02
    note from one of our producing he's you
  • 35:04
    add cult to the longer the laws yeah
  • 35:07
    Trump rotation calm rotation I said I
  • 35:09
    don't you got a bad on no I don't think
  • 35:11
    so and then I started hearing and
  • 35:13
    hearing it now brother okay this is Rick
  • 35:17
    Perry I think which Anna Navarro
  • 35:22
    okay so Anna Navarro you know the nutjob
  • 35:25
    Republican who's always on CNN yelling
  • 35:28
    about Trump so she posted that Rick
  • 35:32
    Perry is is the main cult member you
  • 35:35
    know like one of the lieutenant's just
  • 35:37
    listen to this clip and it's so clear
  • 35:39
    that he's in a cult and you'll see that
  • 35:41
    cult maybe code for something else God
  • 35:43
    used imperfect people all through
  • 35:46
    history King David wasn't perfect Saul
  • 35:48
    wasn't perfect Solomon wasn't perfect
  • 35:50
    and I actually gave the president a
  • 35:52
    little one pager on those Old Testament
  • 35:55
    Kings about a month ago and I shared
  • 35:57
    with him I said mr. president I know
  • 35:59
    there are people that say you know you
  • 36:01
    said you were the chosen one and and I
  • 36:04
    said I said yes you're the chosen one
  • 36:08
    so there's a very thin line between
  • 36:11
    calling an outfit a cult and then saying
  • 36:15
    all because it's a religious thing or
  • 36:17
    it's Christian it's a cult
  • 36:19
    and what Perry used there were terms you
  • 36:24
    specifically by the family if we talked
  • 36:26
    about the family the family in Indy sees
  • 36:30
    all the these religious guys yeah that
  • 36:34
    operation with it with the house yes
  • 36:36
    it's on Netflix have a whole list
  • 36:37
    good special I think we should recommend
  • 36:40
    people see it yes it's the family a lot
  • 36:44
    to watch but they but they literally say
  • 36:46
    you know they're looking for the wolf
  • 36:48
    you know who will shepherd the sheep and
  • 36:52
    Donald Trump is this is the people who
  • 36:54
    outed their hands on him there was a
  • 36:55
    picture a couple of years ago the
  • 36:57
    evangelicals were all there praying
  • 36:59
    those are the guys from the family and
  • 37:00
    they used the example of King David and
  • 37:03
    the term in imperfect you know the
  • 37:07
    imperfect leader so you know this
  • 37:11
    there's a lot going on here and I'm and
  • 37:14
    I know what you're going into because
  • 37:16
    there's a book that came out about the
  • 37:17
    cult of Trump but there is an actual
  • 37:19
    kind of religious cult in DC which Perry
  • 37:22
    may very well you know have be in
  • 37:24
    contact whether it belonged to and I'm
  • 37:26
    just gonna call it a cult because it's
  • 37:28
    looking at that documentary it seems
  • 37:30
    very college to me
  • 37:34
    I agree I grease very cult-like
  • 37:36
    operation it's mainly one charismatic
  • 37:40
    leader that runs it and he's the guy who
  • 37:43
    would make it a cult if it wasn't for
  • 37:45
    him it was just a club but he just like
  • 37:47
    a paternity and he just died different
  • 37:49
    didn't he just died recently think he
  • 37:51
    did yeah so now it's just gonna be this
  • 37:53
    situation that happened with the Church
  • 37:56
    of Scientology where you have a bunch of
  • 37:59
    guys scrambling to take over the place
  • 38:00
    right with the one guy emerging who's
  • 38:04
    worse than the original it was Doug
  • 38:06
    co-ceo II dug coal way to go yeah and
  • 38:10
    Doug Coe he died $0.20 he always stayed
  • 38:14
    in the back end he was really
  • 38:15
    interesting because he was one of those
  • 38:16
    guys who me people should watch this
  • 38:18
    special because he went out of his way
  • 38:22
    to stay in the background yeah very very
  • 38:25
    low-key
  • 38:27
    but he's everywhere man every president
  • 38:30
    but now if you know they could this this
  • 38:33
    could be a part of outing them I don't
  • 38:34
    know I'm just feeling there's a lot of
  • 38:36
    stuff and I hear Perry using these exact
  • 38:37
    terms got me suspicious well I have a
  • 38:41
    different explanation that was brought
  • 38:42
    up and I I'll be kind of you owe me a
  • 38:45
    play my except so he just started this
  • 38:48
    is the seltzer water guy on CNN yeah I
  • 38:51
    saw this interview and so he starts off
  • 38:54
    by introducing a guy wrote the book
  • 38:56
    you're just discussing let's play clip
  • 38:58
    one tea I talked about his claim that
  • 39:00
    Trump supporters are in a cult just last
  • 39:03
    week dan Rather said he thinks support
  • 39:05
    for Trump seems increasingly cultish and
  • 39:07
    this weekend in The Washington Post
  • 39:08
    Trump critic and her hosting strategist
  • 39:10
    John Weaver said the GOP is not a party
  • 39:13
    anymore in the traditional sense it's a
  • 39:15
    cult
  • 39:16
    none of them are mental health experts
  • 39:18
    Steven Hassan is he's out with a brand
  • 39:20
    new book called the cult of Trump he has
  • 39:23
    first-hand experience escaping the
  • 39:25
    unification Church back in the 70s and
  • 39:27
    he's decided to write this book because
  • 39:28
    he believes there's something seriously
  • 39:31
    wrong with our politics so there's a guy
  • 39:32
    who's of course immediately equated cult
  • 39:35
    to a religious organization
  • 39:38
    sun-young moon yeah but he the fact that
  • 39:43
    he was susceptible to being suckered
  • 39:45
    into a cult makes me wonder whether he's
  • 39:51
    he's got a bone to pick or he's pissed
  • 39:55
    off about the cult not doing what he
  • 39:57
    wanted it to do or but he was already
  • 40:01
    had some I don't know how to explain
  • 40:04
    this but I don't trust someone he's got
  • 40:06
    to be biased is what you're saying this
  • 40:08
    guy that or or you're selected the guy
  • 40:11
    who used to be a smoker or the guy who
  • 40:13
    used to be an alcoholic yeah that the
  • 40:15
    world they're the worst
  • 40:18
    why you drink you shouldn't be drinking
  • 40:21
    ex alcoholics I hate a man they're the
  • 40:23
    worst they are clean up their act and
  • 40:26
    then you know I don't drink I don't
  • 40:27
    drink I don't know why you drink what
  • 40:29
    are you drink nobody should drink I
  • 40:30
    don't drink you don't drink you
  • 40:31
    shouldn't drink I drink I don't drink
  • 40:33
    so you go on and on a vibe and I've been
  • 40:35
    sorry then they brag about how long
  • 40:37
    they've been sober I just want to stay
  • 40:38
    sober for five years why you drinking
  • 40:40
    people who are sober that are to be
  • 40:42
    applauded I do want to say that you're
  • 40:45
    sober but I don't need the aggravation
  • 40:47
    personally it's like vegans I'm vegan
  • 40:54
    yeah same thing
  • 40:58
    vegans are probably worse let's face it
  • 41:00
    no there's only one thing worse is when
  • 41:02
    you say I'm a podcaster I mean you might
  • 41:04
    could you be an ex-alcoholic I'm yeah
  • 41:07
    okay here podcaster all right
  • 41:10
    the so I'm skeptical of this guy because
  • 41:13
    of this his own background of being in
  • 41:15
    the unification Church and then he's
  • 41:18
    gonna tell everybody else what's gone
  • 41:20
    but you know and he's a Trump hater it's
  • 41:22
    pretty apparent when you listen to clip
  • 41:23
    two so I define a destructive cult as an
  • 41:26
    authoritarian pyramid structured group
  • 41:29
    with someone at the top who claims to
  • 41:31
    have total power and total wisdom that
  • 41:34
    uses deception and and control the
  • 41:37
    behavior information thoughts and
  • 41:39
    emotions to make people loyal and
  • 41:41
    dependent and obedient followers so for
  • 41:45
    me the the issue of between an ethical
  • 41:48
    healthy cult where you're free to think
  • 41:51
    and free to leave versus a destructive
  • 41:54
    cult I'm referring to Trump's
  • 41:57
    organization and and Malo worship as a
  • 42:00
    destructive cult where people are being
  • 42:02
    fed propaganda and they're not being
  • 42:05
    encouraged to think for themselves and
  • 42:07
    not being encouraged to really explore
  • 42:10
    and and look at the details and arrive
  • 42:13
    at their own conclusion much of what
  • 42:15
    they're hearing is emotionally driven
  • 42:18
    loaded words foster stopping and and
  • 42:22
    thought terminating type cliches like
  • 42:24
    fake news or build the wall or make
  • 42:28
    America great again you say the
  • 42:29
    president is using mind control but
  • 42:32
    how's it provable so look we can start
  • 42:35
    with the pathological lying which is
  • 42:38
    characteristic of destructive cult
  • 42:40
    leaders saying things in a very
  • 42:42
    confident way that have nothing to do
  • 42:45
    with facts or truthfulness the the
  • 42:49
    blaming others and never taking
  • 42:51
    responsibility for his own failures and
  • 42:54
    faults shunning and kicking out anyone
  • 42:58
    who raises questions or concerns about
  • 43:01
    his own behavior his use of
  • 43:04
    fear-mongering and immigration is a
  • 43:08
    horrible thing it is frightening to hear
  • 43:11
    a cult expert say that you see all these
  • 43:13
    signs right now today in American
  • 43:16
    politics yeah this was a good piece of
  • 43:18
    that interview
  • 43:19
    now couple things one he says it's a
  • 43:23
    cult is somebody can't leave and people
  • 43:25
    are leaving this cult all the time then
  • 43:28
    he asked him to secede
  • 43:30
    he never said anything about mind
  • 43:31
    control but he but seltzer water says
  • 43:34
    yeah this is how did how could you prove
  • 43:36
    that that he's brainwashed cause he's
  • 43:39
    lying he's lying because he's lying is
  • 43:42
    what he says that's that's your expert
  • 43:45
    on cult that that was his top reason
  • 43:49
    well lots of people lie doesn't mean
  • 43:51
    their cult leaders and now he that but
  • 43:54
    just there's a lot of it which is it's
  • 43:56
    nonsense but I mean to me it was
  • 43:58
    complete projection what he was saying
  • 44:00
    well what you say I was just insane to
  • 44:02
    settle Dutch saying yeah but you said
  • 44:04
    bring yourself meet you cope through the
  • 44:06
    health it's like what you were saying
  • 44:07
    about the others is what you are
  • 44:09
    yourself this totally he actually went
  • 44:11
    on I know if she saw the whole interview
  • 44:15
    he said and you know seltzer water drew
  • 44:17
    the conclusion that well a Thanksgiving
  • 44:19
    you can you know just offer people well
  • 44:21
    why don't you look at one of my stories
  • 44:23
    now look at one of your stories and
  • 44:24
    exactly the advice they should be taking
  • 44:26
    themselves these particular I refuse to
  • 44:31
    listen listen to Rush Limbaugh yes oh
  • 44:33
    yeah there's a lot of that that's the
  • 44:35
    common thing you hear stuff like that
  • 44:37
    I don't refuse to listen to anybody so
  • 44:40
    in fact I've been listening to one of
  • 44:41
    these guys I can't remember his name but
  • 44:43
    he's a left-wing to me listening to me
  • 44:45
    for 12 years I mean alright so so of all
  • 44:52
    people that have kind of the best
  • 44:54
    explanation for this that actually makes
  • 44:56
    nothing but sense
  • 44:57
    mmm-hmm it's got at about of course yeah
  • 45:01
    so here listen to what he has why is
  • 45:04
    this cult thing even around he has an
  • 45:07
    explanation that to me who literally
  • 45:10
    explains it
  • 45:12
    okay so my first occult day okay so my
  • 45:16
    worldview is completely consistent so my
  • 45:19
    worldview says president Trump did not
  • 45:22
    do anything impeachable and therefore
  • 45:25
    will not be removed from office now if
  • 45:29
    he's not removed for out from office my
  • 45:31
    worldview will be consistent but what if
  • 45:34
    your worldview is that you're your
  • 45:37
    Democrat what if your worldview is not
  • 45:40
    only that he the president did something
  • 45:42
    that's impeachable but several
  • 45:45
    impeachable things and their worldview
  • 45:49
    is it's all obvious there's no question
  • 45:52
    about the facts it's just all obvious
  • 45:55
    what would you think about the president
  • 45:58
    not being removed from office
  • 46:00
    how would your world make sense in my
  • 46:04
    world he doesn't get removed from his
  • 46:05
    office because he didn't do anything
  • 46:07
    that would warrant that but if you think
  • 46:10
    he did plenty of things that weren't it
  • 46:11
    how do you explain it
  • 46:13
    yeah year from now when he's still in
  • 46:15
    office well but we're seeing the answer
  • 46:19
    to that you already know the answer
  • 46:21
    right the answer is that the Republicans
  • 46:24
    are a cult that's that seems to be the
  • 46:28
    answer they're looking for to make their
  • 46:30
    world makes sense because if Republicans
  • 46:33
    are a cult and not looking at reason
  • 46:36
    then that makes sense because the
  • 46:39
    Republican majority in the Senate will
  • 46:42
    never vote to support impeachment but
  • 46:45
    not because there's not evidence
  • 46:46
    according to the Democratic
  • 46:49
    it's because it's a cult it's simple
  • 46:55
    simple but yeah I mean it's like a
  • 46:58
    desperate a desperate last-ditch effort
  • 47:01
    yeah and I don't know how this
  • 47:03
    I mean it's camp is obviously the the
  • 47:06
    coincidence of this guy showing up with
  • 47:08
    this book makes a lot of sense I mean
  • 47:10
    it's just whoops and there's this guy
  • 47:12
    and everyone's calling Trump a cult so
  • 47:15
    do you think it started with him or was
  • 47:16
    it started here's just one of those
  • 47:18
    things that swells up or was a
  • 47:20
    coordinated I think it's been building
  • 47:22
    yeah because looks listening to the Lib
  • 47:24
    Joe
  • 47:25
    you're running the country they're their
  • 47:30
    worldview is so skewed and irrational
  • 47:34
    and wrong that for example and I would
  • 47:38
    like to remind new producers to the show
  • 47:40
    the Lib joes which is short for liberal
  • 47:44
    journalists Lib Jo's two very famous
  • 47:47
    writers one of which is a journalist who
  • 47:51
    wrote for the big publications the big
  • 47:53
    papers and you have continuous contact
  • 47:57
    with them for some reason they find you
  • 47:58
    humorous enough to clue you in to their
  • 48:01
    to their thinking because of course
  • 48:03
    they'd never listen to me trying to
  • 48:05
    convince me that they're right it was
  • 48:10
    very nice
  • 48:10
    so they have a they've had this
  • 48:14
    worldview that like Scott Adams said
  • 48:16
    that is wrong and for example a year ago
  • 48:22
    or longer they were convinced and most
  • 48:25
    of them are convinced especially by at
  • 48:26
    the beginning this year that Trump would
  • 48:27
    quit yes we play that we have all day
  • 48:30
    all this the Liberals would think oh
  • 48:32
    he's gonna quit office all the walls are
  • 48:34
    closing in
  • 48:35
    oh it's he's the whatever that one
  • 48:38
    liberal he had a million people going on
  • 48:40
    and on about it yeah you know that's a
  • 48:42
    bombshell you know the end yeah all of
  • 48:47
    that right the beginning of the end and
  • 48:48
    so they were and they the to Lib Joe's
  • 48:51
    were convinced that by this the end of
  • 48:53
    this year he would have quit well it's
  • 48:55
    not over yet we still have a horse I
  • 48:57
    want bets on during the election period
  • 48:59
    that when he was running for office who
  • 49:02
    when he was first running in 2016 they
  • 49:05
    were of the same kind of mindset
  • 49:07
    thinking that oh he's not he's gonna
  • 49:09
    quit he's gonna drop out and there it
  • 49:12
    wasn't like there was thinking about he
  • 49:14
    might drop out he'll know he's out yes
  • 49:18
    and he did drop out so this is what
  • 49:21
    again this is what Adams is referring to
  • 49:23
    where you have a your worldview you have
  • 49:26
    to look at what you've decided this
  • 49:28
    reality and how does it how's the end
  • 49:31
    result coincide with which what it
  • 49:34
    should be based on your reality and it's
  • 49:36
    not working out no
  • 49:38
    so you're running it's not what there's
  • 49:40
    expecting that isn't happening so
  • 49:42
    they're looking for other excuses so
  • 49:43
    there must be some reason for this and
  • 49:45
    now that well then kudos to Democratic
  • 49:50
    Representative Lawrence who is
  • 49:54
    backpedaling on her decision for
  • 49:56
    impeachment she apparently there's
  • 50:02
    pressure coming or something and she's
  • 50:04
    not using the cult meme let's go now to
  • 50:06
    Democratic congresswoman Brenda Lawrence
  • 50:08
    who sits on the House Oversight
  • 50:09
    Committee that are getting a lot of
  • 50:10
    attention about this issue of
  • 50:12
    impeachment and what to do here here is
  • 50:15
    a part of what you said about President
  • 50:17
    Trump well we just buy it so viewers can
  • 50:18
    hear it we're so close to an election I
  • 50:22
    will tell you sitting here knowing how
  • 50:25
    divided this country is I don't see the
  • 50:28
    value of taking him out of office but I
  • 50:31
    do see the value of putting down a
  • 50:34
    marker saying his behavior is not
  • 50:37
    acceptable I want him censored I want it
  • 50:41
    on the record
  • 50:42
    so she's calling for a censure which is
  • 50:45
    like you know an official it's kind of
  • 50:48
    the same thing that the impeachment and
  • 50:50
    our articles of impeachment are but
  • 50:52
    really censure is just like well you
  • 50:54
    know bad boy we disagree with what you
  • 50:56
    did there
  • 51:00
    you say there I want him censured and
  • 51:02
    you don't see the value of taking him
  • 51:04
    out of office referring to President
  • 51:06
    Trump what exactly do you mean by this
  • 51:08
    congresswoman but the discussion was
  • 51:11
    will the Republicans in the Senate go
  • 51:15
    through and impeach the president there
  • 51:18
    seems to be no giving in that right but
  • 51:21
    the thing that keeps me awake and
  • 51:23
    troubles me and what I was talking about
  • 51:24
    is that there was actually a movement to
  • 51:27
    resolve the president of any wrongdoing
  • 51:30
    we cannot afford that to happen but in
  • 51:33
    the Senate
  • 51:34
    instead of massively absolving him you'd
  • 51:36
    rather they not vote on remover not
  • 51:39
    reals if they vote on sensors just
  • 51:41
    answer him in the Senate yes privately
  • 51:43
    the Republicans are saying yes it's not
  • 51:47
    right he's done something wrong but
  • 51:49
    I'm is just not impeachable we have to
  • 51:53
    put a marker down so I'm going to do my
  • 51:55
    job in the house and when it gets to the
  • 51:57
    Senate I was putting out there that this
  • 52:00
    is a way for history to reflect that
  • 52:03
    this president and any president from
  • 52:06
    now on this is unacceptable and that we
  • 52:09
    will not tolerate it and that we will
  • 52:12
    say as the checks and balances in our
  • 52:14
    government that we did our job this is
  • 52:17
    now where it's going she said it three
  • 52:19
    times we did our job we did our job
  • 52:22
    everyone needs to know that we did our
  • 52:24
    job we did our job we did our job don't
  • 52:26
    be mad we please don't be mad we did our
  • 52:29
    job and she's she's going right around
  • 52:31
    the cult thing she's not even talking
  • 52:33
    about it she's going she's in what I
  • 52:36
    would call the proto cult mouth camp oh
  • 52:39
    and you've used as I mentioned this you
  • 52:42
    will recognize that the protocol camp
  • 52:45
    won't come out and just say they're a
  • 52:47
    cult it says that they're privately oh
  • 52:50
    yes that's Senate Republicans are
  • 52:54
    privately against Trump yeah you're
  • 52:57
    right you're right it's there I could
  • 52:59
    have caught it damn it
  • 53:02
    yeah so she slips the same thing did you
  • 53:05
    see shift
  • 53:05
    do you see shift backtracking oh he
  • 53:09
    doesn't know what to do with himself
  • 53:10
    poor guy
  • 53:12
    poor guy no I mean really I mean she
  • 53:15
    just mailed to shed his skin a pillow
  • 53:17
    his eyes are popping out because of it
  • 53:20
    you're popping out yeah that's true well
  • 53:24
    he was on Jake Tapper's show I like Jake
  • 53:28
    Tapper he's always had an edge to him
  • 53:30
    he's pushing back and shift just just
  • 53:33
    pulls out the biggest chicken shit
  • 53:35
    excuse ever if the facts aren't
  • 53:37
    contested and your committee is writing
  • 53:39
    up the report and you don't at least as
  • 53:41
    of now have any scheduled witnesses or
  • 53:43
    depositions do you think president Trump
  • 53:46
    should be impeached I want to discuss
  • 53:48
    this with my constituents and my
  • 53:50
    colleagues before I make a judgement on
  • 53:52
    it are you kidding me he goes on he goes
  • 54:06
    on you want to hear a little more this
  • 54:08
    is very cute this is the whole thing
  • 54:10
    start from the beginning okay if the
  • 54:12
    facts aren't contested and your
  • 54:14
    committee is writing up the report and
  • 54:15
    you don't at least as of now have any
  • 54:17
    scheduled witnesses or depositions do
  • 54:19
    you think president Trump should be
  • 54:21
    impeached I want to discuss this with my
  • 54:24
    constituents and my colleagues before I
  • 54:26
    make a final judgment on it there are a
  • 54:28
    couple really important things we need
  • 54:30
    to think about and one is are we
  • 54:32
    prepared to say that soliciting foreign
  • 54:35
    interference conditioning official acts
  • 54:37
    like 400 million of taxpayer money White
  • 54:39
    House meetings to get political favors
  • 54:42
    is somehow now compatible with the
  • 54:44
    office because if we do it's basically
  • 54:46
    carte blanche for this president and
  • 54:48
    anyone who comes after him but are we
  • 54:50
    also prepared to say that Congress will
  • 54:52
    tolerate the complete stonewalling of an
  • 54:55
    impeachment inquiry or our oversight
  • 54:57
    because if we do it'll mean that the
  • 54:59
    impeachment Clause is a complete nullity
  • 55:01
    and more than that or an other side
  • 55:03
    ability is really an ability in name
  • 55:06
    only but if that's your view and you've
  • 55:08
    also said that this week's testimony
  • 55:09
    quote goes right to the heart of the
  • 55:11
    issue of bribery and you've also said
  • 55:13
    that what you've seen is quote far
  • 55:15
    more serious than what Nixon did explain
  • 55:18
    to me how you have not come to the
  • 55:19
    conclusion that the president should be
  • 55:20
    impeached I mean it sounds like you
  • 55:22
    think you should be impeached well I
  • 55:23
    certainly think that the evidence that's
  • 55:25
    been produced overwhelmingly shows
  • 55:29
    serious misconduct by the president I
  • 55:32
    don't want to hear more from my
  • 55:34
    constituents and I want to hear more
  • 55:36
    from my colleagues this is I will be
  • 55:38
    making alone but at the end of the day
  • 55:41
    this is a decision about whether the the
  • 55:45
    founding fathers had in mind founding
  • 55:48
    fathers like when they gave Congress
  • 55:50
    this remedy and I have to think that
  • 55:53
    this is very much central to what they
  • 55:56
    were concerned about that as a unethical
  • 55:59
    man or woman takes that office uses it
  • 56:03
    for their personal political gain
  • 56:04
    sacrifices the national security to do
  • 56:07
    so if that wasn't what the founders had
  • 56:10
    in mind it's hard to imagine what they
  • 56:14
    Wow yeah so he's and he did fail because
  • 56:18
    now the and I guess next week the
  • 56:23
    judicial oversight the Judicial
  • 56:25
    Committee is with Nadler are not gonna
  • 56:28
    do some more hearings this this thing is
  • 56:30
    falling apart at the seams it didn't
  • 56:32
    work he didn't get you know the outraged
  • 56:35
    people aren't on the streets there's no
  • 56:36
    farmers with tractors get rid of Traum
  • 56:39
    nothing going on none of that none of it
  • 56:43
    and he even admits that none of his
  • 56:45
    witnesses
  • 56:46
    had anything any any facts that did they
  • 56:49
    did that they didn't see it didn't hear
  • 56:51
    it and in fact his the only argument he
  • 56:55
    has
  • 56:57
    if you recall what's the guy's name oh
  • 57:01
    veiny
  • 57:02
    the Trump's new chief of staff who did
  • 57:06
    mess up and he he went into in front of
  • 57:09
    the press and what oh yeah quid pro call
  • 57:10
    happens all the time it's it's ghetto
  • 57:13
    get over it grow up witch yeah of course
  • 57:16
    we understand what he's saying but it's
  • 57:18
    like here's some red meat hello hello
  • 57:20
    angry media machine what an idiot for
  • 57:23
    him to do that well it was yeah well he
  • 57:27
    thought it might work hey let me at
  • 57:30
    common sense would rain yeah I'll just
  • 57:32
    played that one bit have any witnesses
  • 57:34
    testified that the President himself
  • 57:35
    explicitly linked a White House meeting
  • 57:38
    or the four hundred million dollars in
  • 57:39
    aid to an announcement about these
  • 57:41
    investigations yes not a single witness
  • 57:45
    did that but he calls Mulvaney a witness
  • 57:49
    who of course was not a witness four
  • 57:51
    million dollars in aid to an
  • 57:52
    announcement about these investigations
  • 57:54
    yes the president's own chief of staff
  • 57:56
    the person who meets with the president
  • 57:58
    every day on live camera admitted
  • 58:01
    exactly that yeah except he wasn't a
  • 58:03
    witness and he didn't admit exactly that
  • 58:05
    easily the most serious and that is the
  • 58:07
    military aid but look what mr. Conlon
  • 58:11
    did say is everyone was in loop on the
  • 58:14
    preconditioning of the meeting that
  • 58:16
    Ukraine desperately at whatever blah
  • 58:18
    blah blah blah blah what a what an
  • 58:20
    incredible douche wasting our time with
  • 58:23
    bad television there is almost no crime
  • 58:26
    bigger in the United States we we
  • 58:29
    invented that and you ruined it you made
  • 58:33
    bad television that's for sure it did
  • 58:37
    not consult us had just no idea what you
  • 58:40
    were doing no no no arc of tension just
  • 58:44
    worthless
  • 58:51
    ah I got a Democrat here I was going to
  • 58:57
    explain exactly how it will work how
  • 58:59
    your prophecy John C Dvorak the man who
  • 59:03
    predicted Hillary would run again how
  • 59:06
    many years have you been saying this now
  • 59:09
    well it was election over this is Robert
  • 59:15
    Pattillo he's a civil rights attorney
  • 59:17
    he's a Democrat and he explains well in
  • 59:22
    fact the question was because he's been
  • 59:24
    a believer in this theory and do you
  • 59:26
    think that it's Hillary can still step
  • 59:29
    into this race well I think the odds are
  • 59:31
    actually higher now that when we spoke
  • 59:33
    before that she'll get in and let's
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    understand the recent polling shows that
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    there's a four-way split at the top of
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    the race and we may very well have four
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    separate winners for each of the early
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    primary States at mayor Pete wins Iowa
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    Bernie wins New Hampshire Joe Biden win
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    South Carolina I was in Warren wins
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    Nevada then that means going into Super
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    Tuesday you have no clear front-runner
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    yet when Hillary Clinton has 100% name
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    recognition she has a formative form of
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    fundraising base she has a clear reason
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    to run a rematch to 2016 where she won
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    by over three million votes and now has
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    a ground game to actually win the Rust
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    Belt if Joe Biden isn't able to lock
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    down this nomination within the next two
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    months then there's no really no reason
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    for her not to jump in prior to Super
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    Tuesday so you have a ground game which
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    is in place from the HRC Oh 8 campaign
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    you have consultants who have been
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    recently leaving other top campaigns and
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    as more candidates to drop out more that
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    top talent becomes available just this
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    week you had Joe Biden's top elite
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    latina advisor leave his campaign so
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    those people are in place she has the
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    ground game she has clearly be
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    fundraising apparatus so for someone
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    like Duval Patrick is it reasonable or
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    realistic for him to win no but for
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    someone like Hillary Clinton who already
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    has the apparatus in place
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    it's almost turnkey that's almost a
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    turnkey operation you come in you turn
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    the key you flip the lights on you have
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    a 50-state campaign already in place
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    right now the party is completely
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    splintered you have about 30% in the
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    birding / Warren wing of the party you
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    have 70 percent who are staunchly
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    against seeing that wing of the party
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    win even we've saw the reports this week
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    Obama saying that he will step in to
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    make sure that Bernie Sanders does not
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    get the nomination and because you have
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    the splintering between Joe Biden people
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    to Jamie Clovis are some of the other
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    minor candidates their answers idea you
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    just need a uniting now how many
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    disparate aspects together I like the
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    idea of how he sees the the four
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    frontrunners winning basically their own
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    little territories and there being no
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    clear no clear winner
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    and that that would be the impetus for a
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    uniter to swoop in and well to the first
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    to Iowa and New Hampshire
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    he's probably right but Nevada is where
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    he falls apart in with number four
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    because a lot of people think that Biden
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    will take that hmm so we'll see but I
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    like his thinking it's pretty much to
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    learn the lines of my thinking and she
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    does say the apparatus she never busted
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    up her machine right busted up the
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    machine she's still in place ready to go
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    ready to go at the drop of a hat
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    she still has all these adoring fans she
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    has I like California for example all
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    the women here that are healbots
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    are still here they haven't changed
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    their minds they're not healed but no
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    longer healbots they're still thinking
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    she got gypped how about that hit job
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    though on the on Bernie cuz that was
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    just
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    there's no no proof of that there's no
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    fact that apparently Obama told one
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    other Hamid is yeah no I said you did
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    the out of emotion there's I think he
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    did say it way too many people well
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    that's why it's a hit job oh it's a
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    total hitch before Bernie but it was
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    reported as he said it to one of the of
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    the of the candidates but we don't know
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    who it was and we knew we know that Mary
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    piece is the hit job job the newspapers
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    okay first of all let's line up who's on
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    whose side the big boys the New York
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    Times in the wopo wopo not so much the
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    network's although I believe maybe MSNBC
  • 1:03:23
    they're all behind Warren and Warren is
  • 1:03:26
    failing right in fact then Warren
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    doesn't help things much by saying maybe
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    she'll have a vice presidential pick
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    will be a woman this I read that
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    somewhere how is that we know I heard
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    her say it he was on being interviewed
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    on some radio show or something like
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    that and she says the woman wouldn't be
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    beyond the where I'm a possibility what
  • 1:03:48
    difference does it make is a good idea
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    she would and that means it would have
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    to be campbell harris cuz it would have
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    to be a woman of color she's not gonna
  • 1:03:55
    pick another white woman so you have
  • 1:03:58
    that combination of to death combination
  • 1:04:01
    it has no chance of success she's being
  • 1:04:05
    pretty much booted out of the scene but
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    the these papers of
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    it reminds me of one of the venture
  • 1:04:12
    capitalists that we both know and love
  • 1:04:13
    who is a huge supporter of Democrat
  • 1:04:16
    politics billionaire guy from kleiner
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    yeah yeah and he was like he would I
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    remember during the I think it was the
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    we're talking about JD yeah I'm I love
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    it yeah I'll just say his name or is
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    that 10 so he well I don't like to give
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    him publicity but he has he was like II
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    BB gives millions to these different
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    organizations and he's the one who
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    turned probably the both of us on to the
  • 1:04:44
    fact that he's doing it to get an
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    ambassador ship to either the UK or
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    France and but he's B's backed gore he
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    everyone he's back just failed he also
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    backed a half a billion dollars worth of
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    green tech he's not a great he's not a
  • 1:05:04
    great picker of anything not a great
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    picker president's not a great picker of
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    companies they met list they missed out
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    on Google and was so embarrassing that
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    they they had an important late they had
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    well that a midnight meeting it was
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    explained to me and maybe one day I can
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    recall exactly what it was was a
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    midnight meeting and they went to
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    Sequoia and vindaloo or whatever and
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    said hey we have to have a piece of this
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    you just can't leave this out and they
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    overpaid they really overpaid now of
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    course in hindsight that paid off
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    handsomely but maybe only a third of
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    what other he was a mechanic investment
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    it was they failed they walked away from
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    it they didn't see it they didn't have
  • 1:05:45
    the vision yeah those are your top
  • 1:05:48
    elitist the Silicon Valley guys can
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    luster well again there are as hot
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    Democrats with a world view that's
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    inaccurate according to scott scott
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    adams that you can make that you start
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    making mistakes like this and they'd a
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    never stop one mistake out there we know
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    speaking what makes sense literally
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    makes sense
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    is the right way to go and they've lost
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    a touch the more you know in the morning
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    and with that I'd like to thank you for
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    you the man who put the C in complete
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    in the morning did all the boots on the
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    ground feet in the air
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    subs in the water and all the dames and
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    nights out there yeah yeah and in the
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    morning to all of our trolls thank you
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    our us-based producers thank you for
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    no agenda stream calm Darrin o was here
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    it's a it's a bonanza over there no
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    agenda stream dot-com and a hearty in
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    the morning to data data has come onto
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    the scene recently with the album art
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    before yes recently he's had well yeah
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    though recently he's been to laggard
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    yeah this is true and he brought us the
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    lot of we had like 28 pieces of art it
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    was there's a lot of art yeah I'm just
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    taking a look real quick that we had a
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    lot of you know a lot of stuff that's
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    Michigan 333 dollars and 33 cents you
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    Thanksgiving Day special in fact of
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    clean like I said clean I think clean
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    John clean instance in City Ohio will
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    also be executive producer for this show
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    could be arranged does he want to change
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    Hooper Hubert Knight of the southern
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    South China into so Hubert Knight of the
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    wild wild East of the Middle Kingdom
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    uncle uncle of the tiger yeah well
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    that's more chinesey yeah and it was it
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    was an anonymous donor in China actually
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    yeah who dragged him into the ad to the
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    round table so yeah we'll do that today
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    I think mistake we have listed as a must
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    make sure we have it listed as a title
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    change let me just double check yes
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    continue says hope you guys can send
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    some business Carm our way we'll do that
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    second
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    but I do how about I do it now
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    well I thought you're still looking
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    something up no I got it I got it we
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    couldn't do it he just needed a business
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    it's this car
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    okay well the goat needs to come in for
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    the business Carmen you've got really
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    don't have a business now the use of the
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    term Middle Kingdom has fascinated me
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    for about a year
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    oh and it refers to China
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    and hey I looked it up and I tried to do
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    some research on this usage and there's
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    some couple of announcers on the BBC and
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    elsewhere there's some certain specific
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    announcers that always refer to China as
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    the Middle Kingdom
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    I have not gotten to the bottom of this
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    usage interesting oh yeah he uses it to
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    I see sir Cal meanwhile from Northville
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    Michigan yes comes in with three and
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    $33.33 also one of the executive
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    producers that Thanksgiving Day special
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    Happy Thanksgiving folks or calendar
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    team MEP PS we had a few in this is
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    the supplier of the No Agenda show we
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    had a few conference calls with Kevin
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    Harrington original shark on Shark Tank
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    and his team they offered to propel us
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    to new heights but I had to decline our
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    products are in over 20 stores and
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    demand is growing it rather rely on you
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    you the listeners of the No Agenda show
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    to spread the word goat karma please
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    what a great story now this if I recall
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    cow was I think it was a dude named Ben
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    who literally bought the farm he retired
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    he was sick and sick and tired of it I'm
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    paraphrasing if he's still alive that is
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    he died he bought a farm and then he
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    started to make CBD products and as far
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    as I know he the launch was kind of when
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    he sent us he sent us some samples and
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    we were and we liked it and we had
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    friends test it and it was working well
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    on cramps and arthritic hands of
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    firefighters and all kinds of people
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    were liking it and now he's in 20 stores
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    turning down some shark like hey man hey
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    I really love your product you want to
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    be rich you wanted but still I do you
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    like do you like stocks and bonds you'll
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    be rich me I'm gonna leave your wife
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    rich man that's how that's how rich I'm
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    gonna make you count you with your
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    products just come ten percent of your
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    own company that's right that's how the
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    shark this house sharks usually operate
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    I'll give you $250,000 and you'll own
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    nothing
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    let's give him the goat karma which will
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    help propel the business to even greater
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    you've got surcoat monkey comes in next
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    with 333 and 33 a happy turkey day
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    Melbourne Australia 3 3333 happy
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    whatever you want to call it from sir
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    Matt in Melbourne Melbourne now you're
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    bearing from Down Under looking at how
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    as three hundred thirty three dollars
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    and 33 cents he probably had to had to
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    that's you the accounting based on the
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    matching program to see where I based on
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    the match yeah three eggs
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    to see where I would be but in real
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    donations will go to the Dame drive to
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    bring my daughter who claims to be a
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    reluctant listener as I Drive her to
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    school but can sing along with the
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    jingles that's how we that's how the
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    cult brings them in how cults work
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    that's all you gotta have a game hood
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    it's exactly what Jane goes no karma
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    thank you for your courage sir
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    Matan my counted Victoria pending yes
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    that will be today
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    looking forward to it test for math
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    thank you for your courage and hello to
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    your daughter
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    I'm sorry yes hi hi how you doing sir
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    hashtag 33333
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    uh Happy Thanksgiving Adam and John
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    thank you for working today and yes we
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    do we work on non Thanksgivings we've
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    skipped one I believe maybe to thank you
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    for working today and every day to keep
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    our amygdalas in a healthy state suri
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    hashtag blessed of the cavity
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    aficionados on that note I am going to
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    Holland for a for a small thing with my
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    sisters and I've been able to plan the
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    actual cremation of my father around
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    show days I just want you to know that
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    is how dedicated we are to the show so
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    you can't you can't put them in the oven
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    on Thursday or Sunday this is not
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    acceptable
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    my sisters understand this joking
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    they're fun they're ok with it but as so
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    Wednesday this coming Wednesday I fly to
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    Amsterdam middle seat coach I arrive
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    Thursday morning I'll sleep I'll prep
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    I'll do the show Friday is when we have
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    our our family gathering Sunday and
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    because I have to stay a weekend
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    otherwise the ticket $5,600 round-trip
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    stay the weekend it's doing now it's
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    still the two grand it's crazy
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    did you ask for bereavement prices wait
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    a minute what can I get a deep well is
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    it too late now I've already paid but no
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    actually this tends to be for
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    last-minute oh all right
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    maybe they can maybe they can well I'll
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    instead of bereavement pricing I'll take
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    an upgrade keep put me in business
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    please
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    well how do i how do I do that do I say
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    I think it's like the customer service I
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    don't know I've never done it I just
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    know it exists well anyway so I do the
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    show Sunday and I come back Monday so
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    that was as it relates to we do we do
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    care about what we do here and being
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    consistent with shows and show times is
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    one of the few but significant secrets
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    to our success
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    yes it does make a difference this is a
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    yeah I mean I'm reminded of the good
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    place the TV series which is like one of
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    these very Cavalier as Rick and Marty's
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    a little like this very Cavalier let's
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    put on some episodes this year and skip
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    a couple years put it on again because
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    we're so great that people just keep
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    coming back and I get kind of lost
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    interest I mean I probably watch this
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    series it's finished it off cuz it's the
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    last season they only do four seasons
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    was just dumb but why did you lose
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    interest because there's been over a
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    year you know I got all about it this is
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    really something about regimentation
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    helps a lot adapt its you know these
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    sorts of things are important it turns
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    out that you know if you get into a
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    groove about something you'll and then
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    all of a sudden it disappears then
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    you've lost the groove and yeah yeah
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    I've heard of it I'm gonna go we work on
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    Thanksgiving cuz we worried is freaking
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    paranoid yeah I've never run a rerun on
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    this show a rear Abner never done a
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    rerun no no specials occasionally we
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    then interview shows everything's fresh
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    and new pretty much or or it's been
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    remixed to be fresh and new just just a
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    little lesson for you
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    podcasters who think that you can just
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    cavalierly do the show whenever you feel
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    like it cuz it's a podcast no end of
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    lecture onward to sir rate Jacobson in
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    Ashland Virginia who also comes in to
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    the Thanksgiving Day executive producer
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    I give thanks to the new agenda that no
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    exam breath I