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1190: Olive Theory

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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November 14th, 2019
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Associate Executive Producers: Mark Mensik, Brian Schultz, Nate

Cover Art by Mike Riley

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Start of Show
Woodstock
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    Adam curry this is no agenda in the
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    morning everybody
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    I'm Adam curry and from Northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm waiting for it to
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    become beachfront property I'm John C
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    Dvorak and you shouldn't be reading your
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    email before the show oh you saw that
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    note and of course I did as always
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    someone will come in and tell you that
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    you're wrong you're wrong Dvorak you're
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    wrong
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    and then I realized suddenly this
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    morning I realized you're the guy from
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    the cartoon
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    okay yeah you're the guy from that
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    cartoon announcing the strippers
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    what guy you haven't seen the latest
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    from no I had not seen this oh my
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    goodness
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    the whole club 33 Ravens sequence is
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    there it's not the one where they burn
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    the place down
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    no no no it's just when I'd so what I'd
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    like to see Wow yeah there's a lot more
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    to that one but you're really good and
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    you're the star of the show
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    really good yeah and we have over a
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    thousand subscribers now on the youtubes
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    apparently that's good
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    G she has a thousand subscribe well
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    that's true yeah but apparently that's
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    really good
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    apparently that's when the algos kick in
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    and then you get well go what yeah and
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    then you get fight reality and you're
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    all over ten then you have to go to L go
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    then you have to go to 100,000
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    subscribers to get time yeah and you go
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    no I think big boys and then the big
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    bill and then and then you get D
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    platform that's how it goes well I could
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    but by then we should be on Netflix
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    and as a general rule now every single
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    time I tweet out or retweet one of those
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    videos of No Agenda animated Studios I
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    always do hashtag Netflix
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    I'm Amazon's got money too and so does
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    apparently now we have a new I don't
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    know what to call him but it took it
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    over the CEO of HBO and move them over
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    to Apple yeah see now is he gonna run
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    the the Apple TV stuff I guess so you
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    know there's they have a bunch of shows
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    the advertiser Munt television they have
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    a whole slew of shows there's one with
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    Jennifer Aniston it was at one of the
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    Apple presentations they're gonna taste
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    right right original programming that
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    nobody gets to watch I actually would
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    almost get Apple TV just to watch a
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    series with Jennifer Aniston
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    I'd like her yeah you've said this
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    before in the show yeah she lives answer
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    your denial about the fact that she's a
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    next door neighbor Austin you see me
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    uh-huh yeah exactly yes well that would
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    be good and we could totally snow those
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    guys with it yeah like like they listen
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    like Eddy Cue is there's that no but I
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    have Eddie's number I'll call Eddie I
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    got some hot shit for you man we got we
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    got the algos are triggered on the
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    youtube you know they've got a hundred
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    billion dollars to throw away they might
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    as well and they're putting it on
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    there's two or three shows they're doing
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    it but I don't know how many shows maybe
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    five there's a bunch of shows there and
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    somebody's get to see any of them yeah I
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    think it's more than five and then a
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    couple movies aren't they doing some
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    feature-length stuff as well I didn't
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    hear that but why not yeah well we'll
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    see we got to come up with a budget
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    that's the problem
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    we gotta we gotta justify a budget
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    because really you know the budget is
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    almost a zero it's the three of us Jen
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    making them yeah we're the writers for
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    all practical purposes yes and
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    showrunners and producers yeah
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    let's yeah the writers it's not a very
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    good position on any show
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    um it's lighter than almost all TV shows
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    her writer all writers anyway so else go
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    yeah I'm going over that so I had the
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    funny line the other day I'm going over
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    to I'm over at Whole Foods and I'm
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    looking across the the next at the next
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    person over the next checker yeah and I
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    said I'm and I actually thought this was
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    true
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    I said that's Salman Rushdie who was
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    what who was checking or packing the
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    bags
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    I've noticed that was not it was just a
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    coach leaving okay yeah she looks she
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    looks just like him I said yeah but then
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    again everybody in Berkeley looks like
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    Salman Rushdie got a big laugh and then
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    I said and the men look even worse and
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    you got run out of town you sexist
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    misogynist douche
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    or not no no let's go don't care if
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    you're actually pretty lackadaisical
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    about anything so they got some humor
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    still left in Berkeley that's good to
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    know she could laugh she laughed and
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    left and left and one of her piercings
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    fell out of her mouth now that's the
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    punchline
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    so the jetlag is still kind of with me
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    taking a little bit longer on that long
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    yeah but usually I can I think that the
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    trip home is what really screwed me up
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    because it took much longer than it
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    should have so I didn't really get into
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    the right rhythm so I'm you know of
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    course yesterday you know all the
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    build-up oh boy this is gonna be it the
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    big show is coming to the TV this is the
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    worst yeah we're going all the way this
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    is it this is the impeachment hearing
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    and it was it was so hard for me to stay
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    awake certainly the first you know our
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    two hours and I'm kind of dozing off you
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    know because of the jetlag
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    but I keep getting awakened by tweets
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    you can only guess what the tweets were
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    from yesterday what
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    here we go what I'm gonna read them to
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    you oh great
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    read the transcript the Dems voted I
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    just lost it now where was it that was
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    read the transcript that Dems voted to
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    continue their impeachment sham I need
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    your input complete the impeachment poll
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    now all uppercase R all new 20/20
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    calendars have arrived my amazing wife
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    Melania hand-picked each photo get one
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    before they're gone
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    yes oh they so they put it back in the
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    high gear oh yeah two times mad oh yeah
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    this is a good one
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    2x match missing I don't know the gods
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    what's the person do this matching
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    missing President Trump wants a list of
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    all donors who step up during this
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    impeachment hoax
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    hurry donate in the next hour president
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    Trump : Adam I noticed you didn't step
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    up during the fake impeachment hearings
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    3x match not just for you for one hour
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    donate now 3x match just for me it's
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    unlocked just for you just for me so I'm
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    reading this to the keeper last night
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    she says did you donate this is the most
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    insulting thing in the world donate to
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    anyone with this message this is so
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    horrible but man that they are pushing
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    3x match doing this is all camp that
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    fundraising for the for the Republicans
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    this is all Jared Kushner that's one of
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    the reasons behind the fundraising no we
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    talked about this this is win read
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    that's the guys that does all this now
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    that's Kushner might how could you know
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    that most other words if I give a dollar
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    I've given $3 that's great so before we
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    get into the by the way before we go
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    away from that okay the Democrats used
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    this too and I've also seen it elsewhere
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    and I've seen it at some public radio
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    and I said well there we have an unknown
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    donors gonna match everything into
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    unless we don't get to if we if we get
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    to ten thousand they'll double it but
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    it's like they never say there's a scam
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    going on it must be I mean who's who's
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    and it says 3x match I mean maybe some
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    guy whose name is 3x it's gonna hand you
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    a match I don't know what this is now I
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    find it highly sketchy
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    it should be investigated and they you
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    think it should be I think it's so
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    there's something yeah and they use it
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    legit sounds illegal to me they use bit
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    ly links which I don't like either
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    so of course I did watch this thing
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    sadly but it was crap weather it was
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    freezing here it will actually got a
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    little warmer today but we've had 29
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    degrees overnight bad weather so some of
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    the lead the lead up to this was and I
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    really have reactions and some things I
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    saw you have a couple of clips I don't
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    know what they are but we'll get to
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    those now and I can always count on you
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    for bringing it but first I didn't bring
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    anything I couldn't get good clips you
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    brought what you could I knew you would
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    bring something you bring something bill
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    moyers was on the brine still he's on
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    the Brian seltzer water show going
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    really cuz he was on Democracy Now and
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    his big thing is PBS you shut down its
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    programming thought debate this the
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    peace be hearings on 24/7 well it kind
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    of contradicts that statement in his
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    conversation with with the seltzer kid
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    and of course that's a media show so
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    talking about the media and I finally
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    what I found most interesting is that
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    they are discussing amongst themselves
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    and I presume he considers himself a a
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    journalist yeah a journalist a newsman
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    what is he he's been a broadcast news
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    guy mainly but a journalist for 50 years
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    he's really an old-timer so we're
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    sitting there explaining left he's a
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    very very progressive left winger he's
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    always been yeah and what they're
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    sitting there discussing is how it's
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    their responsibility to well it goes a
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    little bit beyond informing surprise
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    surprise not just reporting but and as
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    we know the pods honest truth that
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    happens on podcasts all the time he
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    usually gets edited out of the
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    mainstream things in this case it was
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    left in as the truth always wants to
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    come out on the eve of another
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    impeachment inquiry hearings this week
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    do you fear for the country for the
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    first time in my long life and I was
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    born in the depression lived through
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    World War
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    to have been a part of politics and
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    government for all these years now yes
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    for the first time because I you know a
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    society a democracy can die of too many
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    lies and we're getting close to that
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    terminal moment unless we reverse the
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    obsession with lies that are being fed
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    around the country so will people care
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    this week will will democracy hold up
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    after this process will always care and
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    we have to remember that we need to
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    serve those people who will get up in
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    the morning and watch the hearings will
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    come home at night and watch the
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    hearings because they really want to be
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    confused they won't they want to be they
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    won't understand they will have cut
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    through they they want they want to be
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    want to be confused they want they want
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    to be they won't understand their lives
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    so we have to be we have to be concerned
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    with them then we have to think about
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    how do we reach the people who don't
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    care how do we reach them how do we let
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    them know about the lies they want to be
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    confused yes it's exactly right
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    be confused confusing statements such as
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    Eric's wall well you haven't heard my
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    clip well no this is this is not this is
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    a clip before before the impeachment Oh
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    douche well looks like went to that's
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    what's interesting we we've discussed
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    many times that ambassadors are
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    appointees that political appointees but
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    they're typically high-end donors and
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    bundlers you know that's that's only in
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    the choice spots yeah Oh in the choice
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    professional Foreign Service people
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    there in the places like Ethiopia right
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    what would you
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    well then Ukraine I guess is that that's
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    not a choice spot is it that's a bad
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    spot to be perhaps ooh if you like vodka
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    so small well has a different view of
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    these appointees how important is a quid
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    pro quo period in order for you to make
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    your case in an article of impeachment
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    it's an abuse of power to remove an
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    ambassador for political reasons because
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    you don't like what they're doing for
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    political reasons it's a gross abuse of
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    power if you ask a political ally like
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    the Ukrainians to investigate your
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    opponent it's a gross extreme abuse of
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    power if you leverage a White House
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    meeting which may not seem like much to
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    us as Americans but to other countries
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    that's the most important thing again
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    it's an extraordinary abuse of power if
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    you if you remove an ambassador of the
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    way that I see he tried to say
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    unlawfully but even he can't can justify
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    saying that unlawful or if you remove an
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    ambassador of the river president did
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    asked for investigations leverage a
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    White House meeting and 391 million
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    dollars in taxpayer dollars that's what
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    we're investigating all we can say maybe
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    that's all bad but it's not impeachable
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    well that's not America either if we
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    allow that to happen
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    okay just not America our cares
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    yes yes this has been around I don't
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    know what's wrong with this guy
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    he really doesn't even understand basic
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    civics no he's a congressman it did who
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    thinks that what these ambassadors are
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    like Supreme Court justices yeah well
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    this way I the way I saw this yesterday
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    with the two witnesses who were chosen
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    an ambassador a temporary ambassador
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    acting ambassador and the deputy
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    assistant to the this is like if you're
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    the deputy assistant to these what the
  • 15:17
    hell was his title now can't State
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    Department deputy assistant what what is
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    deputy assistant if you get coffee at
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    that level or what exactly is the
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    identity of the assist no you get your
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    together gets to assign who gets to cost
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    Wow so you are you're above most all
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    right so these are career crania guy is
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    a career yeah and that is not a plump
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    ambassadorship by any means you said
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    that earlier you suggested it the big
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    donors they get they get england france
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    romatic ins the vatican choice that is
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    like choice then there's Japan Japan's a
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    guru Lee would be good
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    Russia's probably one that you might
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    want it but this tends to be a Singapore
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    Singapore it would be nice
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    Singapore be good I'd say Hong Kong it'd
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    be fun I take Australia China is
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    probably a plum job but you probably
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    have to be CIA yeah well China as you
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    know is asshole Japan for sure yeah all
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    right take us into the take us into the
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    actual meeting job well you know I was
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    gonna play a headache shift clip where
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    he comes on he starts all over so can I
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    make an observation is this is this just
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    that I'm only seeing it now but shifts
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    chair which is the chairman chair is
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    bigger than all the rest
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    oh yeah it's a big giant chairs is that
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    always that way for all of the chairmen
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    chair people I believe so okay but I
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    could be wrong cuz I
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    this was really noticeable I'd I noticed
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    it too and not and thinking on it I had
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    to consider the fact that maybe this
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    isn't always the case because why would
  • 16:59
    I notice this so much I mean the chair
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    is really big how come I have a huge
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    monster chair significantly bigger so he
  • 17:12
    had his opening that went on forever and
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    how it's important all this is I then
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    the newness comes on and he does his
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    opening which is a little more
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    reasonable and I thought and newness
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    this is long too but I thought the
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    beginning of the newness the newness
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    opening the door I called the opening of
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    the opening I thought was I thought it
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    really summarized what's going I think
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    he's right in a July open hearing of
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    this committee following publication of
  • 17:44
    the Moller report the Democrats engaged
  • 17:46
    in a last-ditch effort to convince the
  • 17:49
    American people that President Trump is
  • 17:51
    a Russian agent that hearing was the
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    pitiful finale of a three year long
  • 17:56
    operation by the Democrats the corrupt
  • 17:59
    media and partisan bureaucrats to
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    overturn the results of the 2016
  • 18:04
    election after the spectacular implosion
  • 18:08
    of their Russia hoax on July 24th in
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    which they spent years denouncing any
  • 18:13
    Republican who ever shook hands with a
  • 18:16
    Russian on July 25th they turned on a
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    dime and now claim the real malfeasance
  • 18:22
    is Republicans dealings with Ukraine in
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    the blink of an eye were asked to simply
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    forget about Democrats on this committee
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    falsely claiming they had more than
  • 18:33
    circumstantial evidence of collusion
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    between President Trump and Russians we
  • 18:40
    should forget about them reading
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    fabrications of Trump Russia collusion
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    from the steel dossier into the
  • 18:47
    Congressional Record
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    we should also forget about them trying
  • 18:52
    to obtain nude pictures of trump from
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    Russian pranksters who pretended to be
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    Ukrainian officials now are those that
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    was the radio DJs
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    to call that chef that's right bit we
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    should forget about them leaking a false
  • 19:08
    story to CNN while he was still
  • 19:10
    testifying to our committee claiming
  • 19:12
    that Donald Trump jr. was colluding with
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    WikiLeaks and forget about countless
  • 19:17
    other deceptions large and small that
  • 19:20
    make them the last people on earth with
  • 19:23
    the credibility to hurl more
  • 19:25
    preposterous accusations at their
  • 19:27
    political opponents and yet now here we
  • 19:31
    are we're supposed to take these people
  • 19:32
    at face value when they trot out a new
  • 19:35
    batch of allegations but anyone familiar
  • 19:38
    with the Democrats scorched earth war
  • 19:40
    against president Trump would not be
  • 19:42
    surprised to see all the typical signs
  • 19:44
    that this is a carefully orchestrated
  • 19:48
    media smear campaign
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    yeah well that I don't know if you have
  • 19:53
    that but at a certain point he said you
  • 19:55
    know you're now in the the low-rent
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    sequel just is the Muller to the Muller
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    movie and now you're the leading roles
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    in this piece of crap
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    I mean it was really disappointing I was
  • 20:09
    expecting at least some fireworks but
  • 20:12
    they had poorly cast actors there was no
  • 20:16
    script or at least there was a script
  • 20:18
    but not were the with a plot that made
  • 20:20
    any sense it was just the tension arc
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    was all wrong there was nothing the only
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    thing I liked was having professional
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    lawyers whose name is counsel he had a
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    little name named Sonic I'm discounsel
  • 20:37
    then that guy for the Republicans he
  • 20:39
    looked like a horrible asshole a shark
  • 20:43
    man I like that those guys did that
  • 20:45
    least that's some courtroom questioning
  • 20:48
    that felt a little good you know bomb
  • 20:49
    put a bomb and then you could even see
  • 20:51
    the guy getting a little flustered Aziz
  • 20:54
    it was still it was it was a very bad
  • 20:58
    television show yeah and then to put it
  • 21:01
    on anything besides c-span three yeah
  • 21:05
    that was that was telling when they put
  • 21:09
    it on c-span three you know that even
  • 21:11
    when c-span's not even making it
  • 21:13
    primetime
  • 21:15
    you know you've got a dud
  • 21:18
    so they so here's the newness and his
  • 21:20
    unanswered questions I thought this was
  • 21:22
    kind of poignant it kind of made some
  • 21:24
    sense it was part of his opening and I
  • 21:26
    want to play it we should not hold any
  • 21:29
    hearings at all until we get answers to
  • 21:32
    three crucial questions the Democrats
  • 21:34
    are determined to avoid asking number
  • 21:37
    one who killed Jeffrey Epstein what is
  • 21:39
    the full extent of the Democrats prior
  • 21:41
    coordination with the whistleblower and
  • 21:43
    who else did the whistleblower
  • 21:46
    coordinate this effort with second what
  • 21:50
    is the full extent of Ukraine's election
  • 21:52
    Medellin against the Trump campaign and
  • 21:55
    third why did rese ma hire hunter Biden
  • 21:58
    and what did he do for them and did his
  • 22:01
    position affect any US government
  • 22:03
    actions under the Obama administration
  • 22:07
    these questions will remain outstanding
  • 22:10
    because Republicans were denied the
  • 22:11
    right to call witnesses that know these
  • 22:14
    answers I have because they couldn't
  • 22:20
    find a list and I tried I must have
  • 22:22
    gotten by me because I probably can't
  • 22:23
    doubt more than once trying to listen to
  • 22:26
    this thing
  • 22:26
    yeah was this quid pro quo that wanted
  • 22:31
    that apparently the ambassador said
  • 22:33
    there's no squid pro quo where is that
  • 22:36
    if anyone ever finds that I will take it
  • 22:38
    and then you know you don't you don't
  • 22:39
    have that clue I don't have it either I
  • 22:40
    thought you had it good finite guy tried
  • 22:42
    and tried because I heard it and then
  • 22:44
    you tweeted like oh the only thing is a
  • 22:47
    squid program or no use the newsletter
  • 22:49
    this is squid I'm like oh good he's got
  • 22:51
    the squid proko clip but I never said I
  • 22:53
    had it but what kind of what if you hear
  • 22:59
    something like this
  • 23:00
    do you if you hear this you must clip I
  • 23:03
    didn't hear it I only heard of it oh you
  • 23:06
    didn't hear it oh I'm sorry okay one so
  • 23:09
    when I went to go find it I fell asleep
  • 23:12
    probably most of the time and then I
  • 23:16
    couldn't hear it so I never got so if
  • 23:17
    anybody has it will run it later but I
  • 23:19
    do have this somebody found this little
  • 23:21
    gem and it you had to hear it you hear
  • 23:23
    it in here's a little faux pas some
  • 23:25
    stupidity here is a swallow well
  • 23:29
    grilling he grills everybody but you
  • 23:31
    never Trumper you and ever Trumper you
  • 23:33
    and ever Trumper you knows like Oprah
  • 23:35
    and you're a never Trump and you're a
  • 23:38
    never Trump er just about an hour before
  • 23:40
    the two of you sat down to testify today
  • 23:42
    the president tweeted multiple times
  • 23:44
    about this hearing and he put in all
  • 23:47
    caps never Trump errs mr. Kent are you a
  • 23:50
    never Trump er I am a career non
  • 23:53
    professional who serves whatever
  • 23:55
    president is duly elected and carries
  • 23:57
    out the foreign policies as that
  • 23:59
    president I am an Android I am a robot I
  • 24:01
    will do as I am elected and carries out
  • 24:04
    the foreign policies of that president
  • 24:06
    in the United States and I've done that
  • 24:07
    for 27 years for three Republican
  • 24:09
    presidents and two Democrat presidents
  • 24:11
    ambassador Taylor are you and ever
  • 24:12
    Trumper no sir
  • 24:15
    well what was wrong with that
  • 24:18
    he says instead of saying I'm a career
  • 24:20
    nonpartisan oh I didn't even hear that
  • 24:24
    he says I'm a career non professional oh
  • 24:27
    just about an ally before the two of you
  • 24:29
    sat down to testify today the president
  • 24:31
    tweeted multiple times about this
  • 24:33
    hearing and he put in all caps never
  • 24:36
    Trump errs mr. Kent are you a never
  • 24:39
    Trump er I am a career non professional
  • 24:42
    who serves whatever a president is
  • 24:44
    Dalila
  • 24:45
    I do have the eye so great I saw I am a
  • 24:51
    career non professional now end of show
  • 24:53
    boom done Nayla wait when they're
  • 24:59
    appropriate I'd love to hear them but so
  • 25:00
    far it's top of the list yes well as the
  • 25:03
    only one I'm a career non professional
  • 25:06
    what is the what ambassador they say
  • 25:10
    that was like a robotic speech you
  • 25:12
    nailed and that's why she made that
  • 25:13
    Gaffney this plot right through it
  • 25:15
    you know yeah you know he's obviously
  • 25:17
    not never Trump because he wouldn't deny
  • 25:19
    it I'm giving you a borderline for that
  • 25:22
    actually come on you and I don't do any
  • 25:32
    work we just sit here and look at email
  • 25:33
    and watch TV everybody knows it
  • 25:35
    everybody ambassador Taylor slipped up
  • 25:41
    another and this may be a theme today
  • 25:44
    the truth wants to come out once again
  • 25:46
    my question ambassador Taylor the
  • 25:50
    president conditioning security
  • 25:51
    assistance on an investigation into his
  • 25:53
    political opponent prior to this
  • 25:55
    administration is this something we
  • 25:57
    would do all the time no sir
  • 25:59
    why not we condition assistance on
  • 26:03
    issues that will improve our foreign
  • 26:07
    policy serve our foreign policy use
  • 26:11
    ensure that taxpayers money is well
  • 26:14
    spent those are the end and those
  • 26:17
    conditions are either coming from the
  • 26:19
    Congress or from policy decisions
  • 26:23
    stemming from Authority Congress has
  • 26:25
    given us to make sure that the taxpayers
  • 26:28
    money is well spent or
  • 26:29
    that the receiving company country takes
  • 26:33
    the actions in our now you know that's
  • 26:36
    what's happening you know that they're
  • 26:37
    sending money to companies
  • 26:39
    yeah the receiving company and you know
  • 26:42
    that it's is this exactly your brain
  • 26:45
    unless that's what's going on
  • 26:46
    yeah and then this one was I thought
  • 26:52
    this was interesting because it's a
  • 26:53
    legal thing as you know I I'm taking the
  • 26:56
    bar next month so I'm always interested
  • 26:59
    in these types of legal opinions this is
  • 27:03
    representative Quigley Quigley home
  • 27:06
    rewind quickly for a second I guess too
  • 27:09
    closed primer on hearsay I think the
  • 27:12
    American public needs reminded that
  • 27:14
    countless people have been convicted on
  • 27:16
    hearsay because the courts have
  • 27:18
    routinely allowed and created needed
  • 27:22
    exceptions to hearsay hearsay it can be
  • 27:26
    much better evidence and then direct as
  • 27:29
    we have learned in painful instances and
  • 27:31
    it's certainly valid in it and this is
  • 27:33
    dominate cuz none of those exceptions
  • 27:35
    would apply to this testimony now did
  • 27:36
    you understand any of this about hearsay
  • 27:39
    being used and sometimes being much more
  • 27:42
    powerful than direct evidence well I
  • 27:46
    heard what he said and what he what he
  • 27:48
    was saying is because these two
  • 27:50
    witnesses were both basing everything on
  • 27:52
    hearsay and later it turns out at least
  • 27:54
    according to one source I saw on Twitter
  • 27:57
    so it's not I haven't confirmed this but
  • 27:59
    apparently the the ambassador later home
  • 28:03
    via when most of his information came
  • 28:05
    from the New York Times another another
  • 28:08
    clip that I was going to get but figured
  • 28:11
    you had it because you tweeted I'm
  • 28:13
    unfollowing you and blah you know I'm
  • 28:18
    gonna blossom I'm gonna blow yeah but
  • 28:20
    when you note block when you actually
  • 28:22
    commented on I'm like oh he's got that
  • 28:24
    clip too I I'm I'm making an ass of
  • 28:27
    myself when you assume yes I'm making an
  • 28:31
    ass out of you and me I agree I have
  • 28:34
    learned my lesson
  • 28:39
    so that which is a possibility that he
  • 28:42
    just got all the stuff in the New York
  • 28:43
    trances what else he said this in the
  • 28:46
    hearing he said york times i think what
  • 28:49
    you got was i pointed out to this is an
  • 28:51
    old spook trick yes is where you plant
  • 28:54
    something in a in a in a newspaper
  • 28:57
    usually overseas but you can do it in
  • 28:59
    the united states now you plant some
  • 29:01
    bogus story in the New York Times which
  • 29:04
    sources you know close people in people
  • 29:07
    with knowledge of the situation and you
  • 29:09
    put that in there you had this guy reads
  • 29:11
    the New York Times he reads New York
  • 29:13
    Times they grill him about it at the
  • 29:15
    hearing he says yeah well the way I
  • 29:17
    heard it the Trump was out to get this
  • 29:19
    guy and then he says he read the New
  • 29:21
    York Times he never says he ready
  • 29:24
    testimony
  • 29:27
    but most of his testimony if it all came
  • 29:30
    from the New York Times he's not gonna
  • 29:31
    say well according to New York Times
  • 29:33
    according to New York Times he's just
  • 29:35
    gonna say what he thinks yes but and
  • 29:38
    then the New York a nice picks it up and
  • 29:40
    says confirmed yeah which is the old
  • 29:43
    exactly then they say see confirmed he
  • 29:46
    said it he said what would they forget
  • 29:48
    to mention that he read it in their in
  • 29:49
    their newspaper yeah there's an old
  • 29:51
    trick and it works well and it's in the
  • 29:53
    people fall for it and nobody just a bit
  • 29:55
    nobody's the wiser so it came up in the
  • 29:59
    conversation that there was this is all
  • 30:01
    secondhand information that he has note
  • 30:03
    he never heard this from Trump he never
  • 30:05
    heard this from anybody at all no he
  • 30:08
    read it someplace and so then this guy
  • 30:10
    comes out to the clip you have comes out
  • 30:12
    and starts defending hearsay but he
  • 30:15
    makes the mistake of saying hearsay is
  • 30:17
    better much better much better
  • 30:23
    what do you know are you up there do you
  • 30:25
    have a chair a big chair no stupid
  • 30:28
    citizen be quiet
  • 30:32
    the current Democratic nominee for
  • 30:36
    presidential race is Joseph Biden and
  • 30:39
    was asked to provide some reaction no
  • 30:42
    we're not sure well did he watch did he
  • 30:45
    not watch let's hear what and these are
  • 30:47
    actual journalists who are querying I
  • 30:51
    think if you listen to and I think it's
  • 30:53
    only two women that I can hear they they
  • 30:56
    sound like they really feel sad for Joe
  • 31:00
    you'll hear it
  • 31:05
    [Applause]
  • 31:11
    you see like you know how some man
  • 31:15
    so the question did you what did you
  • 31:18
    think well I didn't see it or heard it
  • 31:20
    was pretty devastating how so will you
  • 31:22
    watch that you know why and then they
  • 31:24
    just go they sound like oh poor guys
  • 31:30
    insane yes he's senile yeah uncle
  • 31:35
    because clearly he's full of crap
  • 31:37
    clearly he did he has no idea he just
  • 31:40
    said I was pretty devastating which
  • 31:42
    everyone knows it wasn't devastating
  • 31:44
    whatever you took away from it well
  • 31:46
    there was a dimension be split here
  • 31:48
    because I I was reading might follow a
  • 31:52
    number of people the head of the DNC and
  • 31:54
    there's a bunch of these Democrats and
  • 31:56
    you read their tweets it's like all the
  • 31:59
    Dresden's toast he was he was ruined by
  • 32:04
    all right well then he then you're
  • 32:06
    reading what Joe's reading that's over
  • 32:07
    then I understand this impression but at
  • 32:12
    least but at least you said well I read
  • 32:15
    some tweets it was devastating Joe
  • 32:17
    doesn't even go that far he's a gay you
  • 32:19
    watch didn't you stupid journalist two
  • 32:25
    weeks be over and then I caught this on
  • 32:28
    one America news of all places with the
  • 32:31
    the presenter that I'm not particularly
  • 32:34
    a fan of he had the blonde boy kind of
  • 32:38
    like the the low-rent Tommy Lehren
  • 32:40
    that's that's the way I look at it just
  • 32:41
    talking as a TV executive people okay
  • 32:43
    and she has some dude on and he's done a
  • 32:47
    Freedom of Information Act request for
  • 32:50
    anything the State Department might have
  • 32:53
    regarding hunter Biden and it turns out
  • 32:55
    oh why yes there is something that the
  • 32:58
    State Department has its request all
  • 33:00
    right Josh talk to me about this we can
  • 33:02
    show this email on the screen by the way
  • 33:03
    these are emails obtained using FOIA the
  • 33:05
    Freedom of Information Act that show
  • 33:08
    lobbyists for Buri smut wanting to get
  • 33:10
    in contact with the Obama administration
  • 33:13
    using hunter Biden's name isn't this
  • 33:15
    exactly what the Biden's have denied
  • 33:16
    happened the short answer to that lays
  • 33:18
    is yes
  • 33:19
    I mean FOIA is a hell of a drug a FOIA
  • 33:22
    litigation and then the federal courts
  • 33:23
    is oftentimes crazy just because of what
  • 33:25
    it ends up divulging and this
  • 33:27
    no different than that the timeline here
  • 33:29
    is pretty crazy it looks like one month
  • 33:32
    before Joe Biden pressured Ukraine to
  • 33:35
    fire this put this prosecutor who was
  • 33:37
    looking into Brees mah literally one
  • 33:39
    month before that verismo was in
  • 33:41
    communication with US State Department's
  • 33:43
    trying to get a meeting and they were
  • 33:45
    expressly name-dropping hunter Biden as
  • 33:48
    a reason to get that meeting not only is
  • 33:51
    everything that you just said true not
  • 33:53
    only did they name drop hunter Biden to
  • 33:56
    try to get a meeting with the Obama
  • 33:59
    administration State Department they
  • 34:01
    expressly said they wanted to talk about
  • 34:03
    corruption investigations into burry
  • 34:06
    smih exactly what Joe Biden ended up
  • 34:09
    doing for them in that video that we've
  • 34:11
    all seen a hundred times where he brags
  • 34:13
    about a quid pro quo getting you know
  • 34:15
    the Ukrainian president to fire the
  • 34:17
    prosecutor who was investigating
  • 34:18
    Purisima the board the company on which
  • 34:20
    his son sat on a board that's what this
  • 34:22
    email expressed that the the lobbyist
  • 34:24
    said that's what they wanted to talk
  • 34:25
    about so I'll I'll explain what she said
  • 34:28
    without the yelling but there's nothing
  • 34:36
    to do with how she looks it's just it's
  • 34:38
    just though yelling so there's a under
  • 34:41
    the presentation skills' or not right
  • 34:45
    she's not she should back off yeah just
  • 34:47
    tone it down 80% you'd be fine yeah and
  • 34:51
    blink blink once that Jambo Jambo stuff
  • 34:59
    will do it to her yeah but you know so
  • 35:02
    this this FOIA request shows that
  • 35:06
    barista did indeed say hey we want out
  • 35:08
    we want a meeting with a regarding this
  • 35:13
    this prosecutor that you guys want to
  • 35:16
    you know that that we think we should
  • 35:18
    get rid of and you know by the way
  • 35:20
    hunter Biden's on our board we have
  • 35:22
    other prominent board members and that's
  • 35:24
    I believe in the timeline a day or two
  • 35:28
    before Joe did the famous hey you know
  • 35:31
    remove that prosecutor that seems at
  • 35:34
    least to me it seems like that's
  • 35:36
    something someone could jump on but no
  • 35:39
    it's on one American news
  • 35:42
    that's that's worse than a podcast
  • 35:44
    that's that's nothing video podcast
  • 35:48
    let's face it yeah so I'm you know these
  • 35:51
    are just little data points I'm sure
  • 35:53
    this everybody has some opinion about
  • 35:56
    everything but it's just boring it's a
  • 35:58
    bad show and a waste of time not that
  • 36:01
    we're unhappy doing it cuz that is what
  • 36:03
    we do so you don't have to but and you
  • 36:05
    know there was really nothing in that
  • 36:06
    this just it was nudnik senseless just
  • 36:11
    no story no not these things are all
  • 36:13
    show anyway bring Norman Lear in if you
  • 36:16
    have to bring somebody in to produce
  • 36:18
    this for you get a rundown
  • 36:22
    stupid once again and this is one clip
  • 36:32
    that I was not taking a chance as you
  • 36:34
    wouldn't have it
  • 36:35
    this was Emma Barnett on BBC who had a
  • 36:40
    sit-down half-hour interview with
  • 36:42
    Hillary and Chelsea the gutsy women book
  • 36:45
    was being promoted and I know you read
  • 36:48
    the headline did you hear the interview
  • 36:50
    I did not that brings me nicely on as a
  • 36:56
    gutsy woman Hillary do you feel you have
  • 36:58
    unfinished business in politics
  • 37:01
    well I do as a activist advocate a
  • 37:05
    citizen no no I know I know exactly what
  • 37:08
    what you meant but I I can only answer
  • 37:10
    with what I mean which is I'm gonna keep
  • 37:12
    speaking out you know there are those
  • 37:14
    who say go away don't say anything and
  • 37:15
    that's just not going to happen say go
  • 37:22
    away don't say anything and that's just
  • 37:24
    not going to the woods that your dog
  • 37:26
    yeah exactly and never come out that is
  • 37:28
    not going to happen look I feel a sense
  • 37:30
    of responsibility really I had to listen
  • 37:35
    to it three times to hear what's going
  • 37:37
    on because you just listen to it and you
  • 37:40
    hear what she's saying and it's exciting
  • 37:41
    what she's saying but when you really
  • 37:44
    get down to when she uses past tense and
  • 37:46
    present tense it gets very interesting
  • 37:48
    not going to happen look I feel a sense
  • 37:51
    of responsibility partly because you
  • 37:53
    know my name was on the ballot I got
  • 37:55
    more votes but ended up losing to the
  • 37:57
    current incumbent in the White House who
  • 37:59
    I think is really undermining our
  • 38:02
    democracy in very fundamental ways and I
  • 38:06
    want to retire him I was did you say
  • 38:08
    something yeah was just stopped sure I
  • 38:10
    want to just ask you a question she went
  • 38:14
    when Hillary lost and she come out and
  • 38:16
    say she's gonna do everything she can to
  • 38:18
    help this president succeed
  • 38:21
    do we have videotape well I think
  • 38:24
    there's probably an old clip of it but
  • 38:26
    hmm you remember that no I should
  • 38:29
    remember it no I really don't remember
  • 38:31
    oh yeah
  • 38:33
    okay we'll go on you know I if I knew
  • 38:35
    how to find the clip I would know don't
  • 38:37
    worry about it this is impossible too
  • 38:39
    many years by the way she's not talking
  • 38:40
    about the president she's talking about
  • 38:42
    the current incumbent in the White House
  • 38:44
    because God forbid she say president the
  • 38:47
    White House who I think is really
  • 38:50
    undermining our democracy in very
  • 38:52
    fundamental ways and I want to retire
  • 38:55
    him I want to see him retired so I'm
  • 38:58
    going to be helping our side try to put
  • 39:00
    together the strongest possible campaign
  • 39:03
    which will be difficult oh you guys run
  • 39:05
    again no no no I'm that is that is a
  • 39:08
    hundred percent so in a few days I'm
  • 39:09
    gonna open my newspaper well you know I
  • 39:12
    never say never to anything I know it's
  • 39:15
    way past time now okay let's let's em
  • 39:18
    I'm gonna analyze this because I have
  • 39:20
    heard it several times she was ready for
  • 39:24
    the question
  • 39:25
    so she was ready to say no but then when
  • 39:28
    the Emma Barnett starts questioning a
  • 39:31
    little further it's it spills out like
  • 39:34
    diarrhea 100% so in a few days I'm gonna
  • 39:40
    put my newspaper well you know I'd never
  • 39:42
    say never to anything I know it's way
  • 39:46
    past time no she knows it's way past
  • 39:48
    time so what what Emma said there very
  • 39:50
    quietly in the background was you know
  • 39:52
    you kind of have to you know register in
  • 39:54
    a couple of states Hillary's well aware
  • 39:56
    that is that is a hundred percent so in
  • 39:57
    a few days I'm gonna put my newspaper
  • 39:59
    well you know I never seen anything I
  • 40:03
    know it's way past time but you know I I
  • 40:06
    look I think all the time about what
  • 40:08
    kind of president I would have been him
  • 40:09
    all right now listen to the tents change
  • 40:11
    from I would have been and to the
  • 40:13
    present I look I think all the time
  • 40:15
    about what kind of president I would
  • 40:16
    have been and what I would have done
  • 40:17
    differently and what I think it would
  • 40:20
    have meant to our country in the world
  • 40:21
    so of course I think about it I think
  • 40:23
    about it all the time being you know
  • 40:25
    being able to do that and look whoever
  • 40:27
    wins next time is being able to do that
  • 40:31
    she goes would have would have would
  • 40:33
    have would if I think about it all the
  • 40:34
    time be not
  • 40:38
    if I were able not what it would be like
  • 40:40
    if I had been able had been able know a
  • 40:43
    point to have a really and what I think
  • 40:47
    it would have meant to our country in
  • 40:48
    the world so of course I think about it
  • 40:51
    I think about it all the time being you
  • 40:53
    know being able to do that and look
  • 40:55
    whoever wins next time I think about it
  • 40:58
    all the time being able to do that being
  • 41:01
    able to do that and look whoever wins
  • 41:03
    next time is going to have a big task
  • 41:08
    trying to fix everything that's been
  • 41:09
    broken how would you feel if in the last
  • 41:11
    48 hours or so while she's on this trip
  • 41:14
    in the UK mom decides now listen to how
  • 41:18
    Chelsea expertly I might add puts Emma
  • 41:22
    Barnet in her place like shut up this is
  • 41:26
    my mom I do what she wants I am her
  • 41:29
    protector just throw her hat fucking
  • 41:31
    well I'm always in her corner
  • 41:33
    am I so so shut up you know whatever she
  • 41:37
    decides to do on any given day I'm here
  • 41:39
    to support and love her but you my most
  • 41:42
    important my most important role in life
  • 41:44
    now is as a mother Wow expert expert
  • 41:48
    deflection she's very good Chelsea she's
  • 41:50
    much better than I thought she was at
  • 41:53
    this is not subtle what she said - this
  • 41:55
    Emma well I'm always gonna support my
  • 41:58
    mom Emma Emma
  • 42:02
    she's running John this woman is running
  • 42:05
    many many people many many people want
  • 42:09
    her to run all kinds of pressure
  • 42:13
    many people I love it no that's
  • 42:16
    fantastic
  • 42:17
    it's fantastic and then she added one
  • 42:19
    little I thank you DeLuca gachi that you
  • 42:23
    nailed and this was that when the time
  • 42:25
    that Hillary was familiar with the
  • 42:29
    deadline to the point where she knew
  • 42:31
    that she'd missed a number of well she's
  • 42:33
    only missed a couple but she's not gonna
  • 42:35
    take Iowa and New Hampshire anyway she
  • 42:38
    doesn't dislike be even Bloomberg who is
  • 42:40
    running or claims to be he's back in the
  • 42:43
    race he says he doesn't want to run in
  • 42:45
    New Hampshire what's the point you you
  • 42:47
    have to run against a couple of New
  • 42:49
    Englanders up there they're gonna
  • 42:51
    whoever wins New Hampshire well it
  • 42:55
    doesn't matter you don't need to win New
  • 42:57
    Hampshire's not that many votes involved
  • 42:59
    Hillary knows like no other how to
  • 43:01
    manipulate the super-delegates and it's
  • 43:05
    what she did with Brussels she screwed
  • 43:06
    Bernie
  • 43:07
    she was screwing Bernie was very
  • 43:09
    successful and I mean it's it's a it's a
  • 43:12
    sawed off term but brokered convention
  • 43:15
    comes to mind
  • 43:18
    even that could happen
  • 43:21
    the problem that you have is the way I
  • 43:24
    don't think you know the number of
  • 43:25
    people have come up with this thesis
  • 43:26
    that this is going to go to the
  • 43:28
    convention it's gonna be deadlock
  • 43:30
    between two or three people that's why
  • 43:32
    they're not getting rid of Bernie
  • 43:33
    they're gonna keep them in there cuz
  • 43:34
    it'll get a lot of votes we'll get a lot
  • 43:35
    of wins and then Warren will get a lot
  • 43:37
    of votes you'll get a lot of wins and
  • 43:39
    those are the two that are gonna get
  • 43:40
    most of the votes and wins and they have
  • 43:44
    to make the assumption there's not going
  • 43:45
    to be that one of them I think that's
  • 43:48
    probably a good assumption cuz I could
  • 43:49
    kind of make it to that one of them's
  • 43:51
    not gonna run away with it but they're
  • 43:54
    also risking the the possibility that
  • 43:57
    one of them is going to run away with it
  • 43:59
    and one of them could be Bernie well the
  • 44:02
    Democrats do not want Bernie and they
  • 44:03
    then they don't actually want Warren
  • 44:05
    either right how about I don't know what
  • 44:08
    this idea this is pretty risky if you're
  • 44:10
    gonna go for a brokered convention but
  • 44:13
    you can never bring Hillary in at the
  • 44:14
    last minute it just gonna look fishy
  • 44:16
    yeah I think we need one more person he
  • 44:18
    has to run to some she's gonna have to
  • 44:20
    throw her hat in the ring and she's
  • 44:22
    gonna have to run I think South Carolina
  • 44:24
    she can win mm-hmm she went any of this
  • 44:27
    other states easily if she gets in in
  • 44:29
    time to do that that she can easily win
  • 44:31
    California hmm so she'd get California
  • 44:34
    New York all the southern states
  • 44:37
    probably picked up Washington State and
  • 44:39
    Morrigan she could easily win the whole
  • 44:41
    thing or or at least get it to the point
  • 44:44
    where if there was a brokered convention
  • 44:46
    it would go to her easily but it
  • 44:47
    wouldn't look like she cheated and got
  • 44:49
    in at the last minute which is what a
  • 44:50
    lot of these theorists are starting to
  • 44:52
    say oh you don't know what's true you
  • 44:53
    know wait to the end the very end she's
  • 44:56
    gonna jump in that's no that's not gonna
  • 44:58
    work well
  • 45:01
    satori hat in the ring and she has to do
  • 45:04
    it before South Carolina at least and I
  • 45:06
    don't know what the deadline is for
  • 45:07
    South Carolina I'm gonna have to look it
  • 45:08
    up how about this it's coming up how
  • 45:10
    about this Deval Patrick who is now
  • 45:12
    apparently gonna jump into the race
  • 45:14
    Patrick is an interesting character
  • 45:16
    because I spotted him years
  • 45:18
    he's got the packaging Roy I'll tell you
  • 45:20
    he's got black president oh yeah I
  • 45:25
    thought this years ago before he fell
  • 45:27
    out it off the scene and then Cory
  • 45:29
    Booker kinda stole his fire do you
  • 45:32
    imagine being Deval Patrick and having
  • 45:34
    Cory Booker stealing fire yeah Cory
  • 45:38
    Booker took over word Deval Patrick left
  • 45:40
    off the vol Patrick is a tremendously
  • 45:43
    erudite well spoke all racist if he's
  • 45:49
    erudite and well spoke and if his white
  • 45:52
    guides say the same thing you don't
  • 45:55
    understand racism John you don't
  • 45:57
    understand yes I can't say anything
  • 45:59
    complimentary about this guy but the
  • 46:02
    fact is he is extremely appealing yes I
  • 46:07
    think Morgan I always thought he was
  • 46:08
    more appealing than Obama ever was well
  • 46:11
    he's the real deal he's he's actually
  • 46:13
    run something I mean this this he's
  • 46:15
    actually running a government yeah he's
  • 46:17
    the real T Massachusetts yeah
  • 46:20
    but why he got sight by the way they
  • 46:23
    pushed him off over the side or what I
  • 46:25
    don't know I don't get it I don't think
  • 46:27
    he can do it well not gonna put another
  • 46:30
    black they're not gonna run another
  • 46:31
    black male
  • 46:32
    they'd have to work real hard email they
  • 46:34
    have to get their rules and Joe Biden
  • 46:38
    fits the ticket exactly well Joe by yeah
  • 46:42
    allow me to take a small sidestep since
  • 46:44
    we came to sweet we stumbled upon racist
  • 46:47
    comments and I called racism because it
  • 46:50
    is and I and I have proof that what you
  • 46:53
    said he's erudite and well-spoken is
  • 46:55
    just because he's a black man is racist
  • 46:58
    and I have proof but if there's a white
  • 47:00
    guy we wouldn't be racist
  • 47:02
    correct correct cuz cuz Joe Biden is not
  • 47:06
    erudite now and Joe Biden is not
  • 47:08
    well-spoken that's does that make him a
  • 47:10
    black man no
  • 47:14
    on waters world which I'd never watch
  • 47:17
    but this came up on the mo facts show on
  • 47:21
    waters world he had a sociologist a PhD
  • 47:26
    so a professor of sociology I guess
  • 47:29
    sociologists professor of sociology and
  • 47:33
    this is a little bit back it was about
  • 47:36
    the math being racist which of course is
  • 47:40
    is is nuts and so this is not so much
  • 47:42
    about the math being racist but about
  • 47:45
    the definition of racism and it came out
  • 47:47
    in such a beautiful way that I need to
  • 47:49
    share it tell me why math is racist
  • 47:52
    doctor yes so you funny on November 6
  • 47:59
    2016 I was at a conference on statistics
  • 48:02
    and I raised my hand and I was like are
  • 48:05
    you telling me statistics are racist and
  • 48:08
    that was what almost three years ago and
  • 48:12
    I was really confused when I asked the
  • 48:15
    question and spent years reading about
  • 48:17
    many different things have you Jesse
  • 48:20
    read native son which I gave you last
  • 48:22
    time we met I read it in high school but
  • 48:26
    I have not reread it since the last time
  • 48:29
    you gave it to me but what does that
  • 48:31
    have to do with his math racist so the
  • 48:36
    critical race theory and is a framework
  • 48:39
    for understanding the world that helps
  • 48:41
    us understand that this entire country
  • 48:44
    is racist right we have a white
  • 48:46
    supremacist Tests racial caste system in
  • 48:48
    the United States are you saying that
  • 48:52
    all white people in America are racist
  • 48:56
    yeah I am too sometimes it happens we
  • 49:00
    were socialized right the process of
  • 49:02
    socialization you're learning about
  • 49:04
    social norms
  • 49:05
    so you're racist you're a racist
  • 49:08
    occasionally it happens I usually
  • 49:10
    apologize it when I realize it how are
  • 49:13
    you a racist what do you think makes you
  • 49:15
    superior
  • 49:18
    Josie that question doesn't make sense
  • 49:20
    well isn't racism the belief that one
  • 49:22
    race is inherently superior than another
  • 49:26
    race and then you discriminate against
  • 49:28
    other races that is a piece of racism
  • 49:33
    but you gave the definition that's
  • 49:34
    really old and language evolves over
  • 49:37
    time supremacy
  • 49:40
    what are we race and white supremacy
  • 49:43
    today yeah okay they are structures that
  • 49:45
    affect us all so people do things that
  • 49:48
    are racist all the time myself included
  • 49:51
    because we don't realize that's
  • 49:53
    happening okay do you understand John do
  • 49:57
    you understand how I can easily say that
  • 49:59
    you said in every show and you got I
  • 50:03
    could say the same thing course but this
  • 50:04
    is this is the thinking and she just
  • 50:07
    said it right there that's an old
  • 50:09
    definition sad merriam-webster's Webster
  • 50:13
    no one has updated the definition
  • 50:15
    because it has to include the element of
  • 50:18
    feeling superior over another race and
  • 50:21
    this is just nuts but there you have it
  • 50:25
    it's the definite language changes shut
  • 50:29
    up
  • 50:32
    I don't know what the long-term point of
  • 50:35
    it is that you want to make sure that
  • 50:37
    all whites are racists yes I know the
  • 50:41
    boy no I'm father let me restate that
  • 50:44
    I'm not sure what the point is to make
  • 50:50
    all whites races what is the point is
  • 50:52
    there free money control control control
  • 50:56
    over what you can say and even what you
  • 50:59
    can within us then it goes right back to
  • 51:01
    your old thesis which is this is really
  • 51:03
    a free speech issue of course it is yeah
  • 51:08
    well that's why we get letters
  • 51:11
    condemning us for even suggesting that
  • 51:13
    the global warming nonsense is
  • 51:17
    overstated and it is part of a control
  • 51:20
    mechanism I was not gonna do this now
  • 51:22
    but I think I should take us right I
  • 51:23
    leave I have solved vocal fry'
  • 51:29
    I know what I nearly had vocal fry no I
  • 51:32
    didn't say it cured it I said I've
  • 51:34
    solved the mystery of vocal fry why it
  • 51:38
    is done and why in particular young
  • 51:42
    women do it but before we do that let's
  • 51:45
    take a moment and talk about the T
  • 51:48
    glottal ization
  • 51:52
    I don't know how you make this jump by
  • 51:54
    the way well because it's also about
  • 51:56
    women young women in particular but also
  • 51:58
    young people who are changing speech
  • 52:01
    patterns vocal fry' as a speech pattern
  • 52:05
    dropping T's is a speech pattern we were
  • 52:08
    just told by this woman that we're old
  • 52:11
    and are thinking when it comes to the
  • 52:13
    words we use where everything we say is
  • 52:15
    racist this is this is something being
  • 52:18
    pushed on us and I so does that seem
  • 52:20
    like really such a big jump yes it does
  • 52:23
    but go on
  • 52:23
    okay well for the T glottal ization it
  • 52:27
    is more of what you just heard language
  • 52:29
    changes shut up and I went to the expert
  • 52:33
    on this when you want to know
  • 52:35
    something's going on with language and
  • 52:37
    speech you go to grammar girl a study in
  • 52:40
    the journal American speech examining
  • 52:43
    the dialect of Vermonters noticed that
  • 52:45
    some traditional pronunciations were
  • 52:47
    disappearing cow for cow for example is
  • 52:50
    declining but that the dropping T's is
  • 52:53
    increasing the researchers spotted it in
  • 52:56
    pronunciations like mountain for
  • 52:58
    mountain never Mon for Vermont have you
  • 53:02
    heard someone say Vermont no in another
  • 53:08
    study conducted in the western United
  • 53:10
    States researchers found that young
  • 53:12
    female speakers were more likely to use
  • 53:14
    glottal stops than other groups they
  • 53:16
    studied the researchers suggested their
  • 53:19
    findings may indicate that a broader
  • 53:21
    change in pronunciation is afoot they
  • 53:24
    noticed that quote the literature on
  • 53:26
    sociolinguistic change is replete with
  • 53:29
    studies in which young women are on the
  • 53:31
    cutting edge of language change unquote
  • 53:35
    and that's no surprise to people who
  • 53:38
    borrowed phrases like as if and way
  • 53:40
    harsh from movies like clueless and
  • 53:43
    Legally Blonde now this is interesting
  • 53:45
    because what she just said is that
  • 53:47
    people pick that up from a movie and I
  • 53:51
    would say I would wager that as Earth
  • 53:54
    isn't really used anymore so it was not
  • 53:57
    a change it was a temporary fad like was
  • 54:01
    up also coming from media so I call
  • 54:05
    bullshit
  • 54:06
    they're on grammar girl but okay an
  • 54:07
    answer to the biggest question
  • 54:12
    what I didn't understand what you said
  • 54:15
    she said that young women okay well
  • 54:19
    here's what she said go back is replete
  • 54:21
    with studies in which young women are on
  • 54:23
    the cutting edge of language change
  • 54:25
    young women are on the cutting edge of
  • 54:27
    language change and then instead of well
  • 54:30
    look what developed in this with this
  • 54:31
    particular group of women no she's now
  • 54:33
    going to say that they heard it on a
  • 54:35
    movie unquote and that's no surprise to
  • 54:38
    people who borrowed phrases like as if
  • 54:41
    and way harsh from movies like clueless
  • 54:44
    and Legally Blonde well hold on yeah
  • 54:47
    those movies are written usually by
  • 54:50
    Hollywood writers and they're in
  • 54:51
    Hollywood and they you're not dreaming
  • 54:53
    as if they're not the writers that wrote
  • 54:56
    the movie that uses as the F one of the
  • 54:59
    movies was a dozen of them didn't they
  • 55:02
    got it from the street yes sure they did
  • 55:04
    but is the women driving the women were
  • 55:06
    driving the writing but it went away
  • 55:08
    okay my point is it didn't stick people
  • 55:11
    still don't don't this that was that's
  • 55:12
    not a fundamentally a lot of a dipstick
  • 55:15
    a lot of stuff statistics
  • 55:16
    such as
  • 55:19
    well I think as if is if a lot of it
  • 55:22
    okay doesn't stick permanently but some
  • 55:24
    of this because what you're gonna
  • 55:26
    because the examples I'm coming up with
  • 55:28
    in my head or stuff that I know is kind
  • 55:30
    of come and gone but but the valley
  • 55:33
    girls speak in general people don't do
  • 55:36
    that anymore it's now persiflage okay in
  • 55:42
    answer to the biggest question of all
  • 55:44
    why are people dropping their t's we
  • 55:47
    have a disappointing answer nobody
  • 55:49
    really knows we have a nobody you really
  • 55:59
    know is standard pronunciation across a
  • 56:02
    region even a country changes gradually
  • 56:05
    and is affected by countless untold
  • 56:08
    causes in the 400 years since English
  • 56:11
    settlers first came to North America
  • 56:13
    what we call a British accent morphed
  • 56:16
    into an American accent and that accent
  • 56:19
    in turn birth to countless others from
  • 56:21
    the distinct dialects we hear in New
  • 56:23
    York City and Dallas to the ones we hear
  • 56:25
    in New Orleans in Minneapolis T
  • 56:28
    globalization can sound grading or
  • 56:30
    Slaney to some listeners today but some
  • 56:33
    day it may be the way all of us speak
  • 56:35
    and by that time that's driving everyone
  • 56:41
    to distraction this even calls it a
  • 56:42
    pronunciation tick okay this does lead
  • 56:45
    into this outstanding deconstruction I
  • 56:49
    don't think this guy even knew what he
  • 56:51
    was doing producer Joe sent me to this
  • 56:53
    this is a youtuber from the UK's name is
  • 56:55
    screen name wings of pegasus and he's
  • 56:59
    deconstructing Patsy Cline's voice which
  • 57:03
    has a I didn't even really think about
  • 57:05
    it but there is vocal fry' in her voice
  • 57:08
    and he's going to explain well I say I'd
  • 57:11
    left out a lot but to create vocal fry'
  • 57:15
    you know you're actually blowing you're
  • 57:18
    using very little air very little diet
  • 57:21
    push from your diaphragm
  • 57:24
    to get that yeah you sound like a frog
  • 57:26
    that's the way frogs make that sound
  • 57:27
    right but you're decided and she was
  • 57:30
    able to go crazy yes she would go in and
  • 57:33
    out of that and he says that while I'm
  • 57:36
    gonna play the clip that that vocal fry
  • 57:38
    is part of what made her not just unique
  • 57:41
    but so incredibly successful and in his
  • 57:44
    deconstruction I think he reveals the
  • 57:46
    reason why women in particularly in
  • 57:49
    particular young women have this are
  • 57:52
    using this voice technique the other
  • 57:54
    thing that gives her such a great
  • 57:57
    quality to her voice is that vocal fry
  • 58:00
    and if you don't know what I'm talking
  • 58:02
    about
  • 58:02
    it's the way that the vocal cords come
  • 58:05
    together with minimal air in a really
  • 58:08
    relaxed state if I'm going to
  • 58:10
    demonstrate it now I'm talking with my
  • 58:14
    vocal cords coming together I'm getting
  • 58:16
    a very definite connection and that's
  • 58:19
    why I'm producing this noise and if I
  • 58:22
    was to hold on a particular note it
  • 58:24
    would always be there because my vocal
  • 58:27
    cords are connected you might find some
  • 58:30
    people who talk like this they go well I
  • 58:34
    just told like this because it's the
  • 58:36
    most relaxed way of talking and Patsy
  • 58:39
    Cline when she sings she has that
  • 58:42
    control of her vocal cords so that she's
  • 58:44
    just beyond vocal fry' but then can just
  • 58:48
    end her lines with that and to explain
  • 58:51
    this further when babies cry a great
  • 58:55
    example because babies don't know that
  • 58:58
    they're using their voice the most
  • 59:00
    efficient way possible because it's
  • 59:02
    automatic it's ingrained it's just the
  • 59:05
    way it is used when you're a baby you
  • 59:08
    can't think about diaphragmatic support
  • 59:10
    and chest voice and head voice and
  • 59:13
    falsetto so when a baby cries it always
  • 59:17
    has vocal fry' in there so you get a wow
  • 59:21
    wow wow and it's that ah at the end
  • 59:26
    there is the vocal fry so having that
  • 59:30
    control of your voice means that you can
  • 59:33
    connect to an audience
  • 59:35
    because there is a cry in your voice and
  • 59:37
    as humans we are hot-wired to respond to
  • 59:43
    a babies cry because of evolution that
  • 59:46
    everything about us is ensuring the next
  • 59:49
    generation so if a baby's crying there's
  • 59:51
    something wrong you have to make it
  • 59:53
    right so if you can get that quality in
  • 59:56
    your singing voice you are gonna connect
  • 59:59
    at such a deep level almost a level that
  • 1:00:03
    is human that is intrinsic within all of
  • 1:00:07
    us and we don't even know that it's
  • 1:00:09
    there but when we hear it we know that
  • 1:00:11
    sound I know it's a stretch but when I
  • 1:00:15
    heard this my thinking immediately went
  • 1:00:18
    to well yeah if you do this particularly
  • 1:00:21
    to a woman it may be as a as a woman it
  • 1:00:25
    triggers something at a very deep
  • 1:00:27
    reptilian level of maybe in you there's
  • 1:00:32
    more connection more engagement it
  • 1:00:34
    sounds import and you know Britney
  • 1:00:37
    Spears is almost nothing but vocal fry'
  • 1:00:40
    and her of singing sure you know and
  • 1:00:43
    she's very popular yeah no kidding
  • 1:00:46
    Daniel maybe maybe add a little data
  • 1:00:51
    point about women not having children
  • 1:00:55
    when they're young so maybe there's even
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    some heightened awareness in the just in
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    their entire it's in their DNA
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    and you know to certain ages and they
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    hear the fry and they're just drawn to
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    it and I'm not saying people are doing
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    it on purpose but the the response that
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    they're getting is much more leaning
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    forward deeper engagement particularly
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    from women when women are doing this now
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    there's I don't have the clip again I
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    babble today's show is a epic fail and
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    so far as my flips but I'm not talking
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    about clips I didn't clip oh my god we
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    have it on the next show for sure cuz I
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    made sure to put it aside there's a
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    woman reading her own biography on this
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    bitch slut floating around and she her
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    whole voice is vocal fry' it's worse
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    it's beyond
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    Jill I would real be on Jill so much
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    that goes beyond Jill but okay it's I
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    thought the same thing one of our
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    producers sent it to me and I said no no
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    but nothing's beyond Jill but it was
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    beyond Jill including the lung and he
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    said go out forever hold on obviously I
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    read the New York Times like all day
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    long
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    mainly on my iPad app this woman is
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    doing the same thing and I just
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    retweeted it this is a week or so ago i
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    retweeted it saying yeah this is
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    terrible this is beyond Jill or
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    something like along those lines in a
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    whole bunch of hate came my way
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    oh yeah sure followers just people I
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    don't know where do they come on good
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    works yeah they're all writers female
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    mostly young adult yaa as it's called in
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    the business mm-hmm mostly why a
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    writer's young adult fiction writers and
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    they were all women and they were all
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    women we're defending the vocal fry'
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    girl and I'm thinking this and one of
  • 1:03:03
    them was the common was I don't see what
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    you listening to you know they do coming
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    out our voices not commenting on her
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    content which is not true if you think
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    of McLuhan desk because commenting on on
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    every I mean everything is part of the
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    message yeah yeah there's a message that
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    was a message in the mediums a message
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    and the voice is a message everything's
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    a message so you know this all part of
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    the communications system so you can you
  • 1:03:28
    can do this it's legal to criticize
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    somebody's voice I mean if they sound
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    like Elmer Fudd and they're reading
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    Shakespeare is part of the message of
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    course yes so I have to now I have to go
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    get this what the basic thesis
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    well the basic thesis is outstanding and
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    it would make nothing but sense to me
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    that women would start to pick this
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    because they would get if you start to
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    develop say this like the glottal stop
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    and all the rest of it but let's say
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    that you're a woman and you're talking
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    in vocal fry' and other women because of
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    the baby's trigger yeah and they don't
  • 1:04:12
    have babies but they still get triggered
  • 1:04:14
    by this because it's Primus they get
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    triggered and they come closer and they
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    want to listen to you more this is why I
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    think I got so much flack for condemning
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    this vocal fright in fact was it her
  • 1:04:25
    message at all that was attractive to
  • 1:04:27
    these women it was the fact that this
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    woman has this crying going on these are
  • 1:04:31
    women and thinking or crying they're
  • 1:04:35
    crying and that we're making fun of them
  • 1:04:37
    and by the way yes that is a yeah these
  • 1:04:41
    are I don't want to say pathetic but
  • 1:04:44
    these are women who are literally crying
  • 1:04:46
    they're playing they're crying as they
  • 1:04:49
    speak and that's where the vocal fry is
  • 1:04:51
    and they're there asking for help and
  • 1:04:54
    nobody's giving it to them and said
  • 1:04:56
    we're here like a couple of douche bags
  • 1:04:57
    call them out as idiots and the way they
  • 1:05:01
    receive that is an attack against
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    motherhood that's why it's so vicious
  • 1:05:08
    and even though they don't know it when
  • 1:05:10
    you say hey man that fry there like you
  • 1:05:12
    so they're saying you can't do this you
  • 1:05:15
    know who who are you old man okay boomer
  • 1:05:18
    all that but then what they're really
  • 1:05:20
    saying what they're saying in their
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    heart is you don't care about babies you
  • 1:05:24
    hate babies and that's what's tricky
  • 1:05:26
    yes once again with Martin one Nathan
  • 1:05:33
    ladies gentleness you know agenda show
  • 1:05:34
    its how this is how the system works our
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    producer send us something we can
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    deconstruct it we break it down we have
  • 1:05:40
    solve vocal fry' and now to put it to
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    use for yourself because you can totally
  • 1:05:48
    get an audience to listen to you and I
  • 1:05:51
    think I have to do do more cry maybe
  • 1:05:54
    that would be it maybe that's where the
  • 1:05:55
    up talk comes in way well we kept
  • 1:06:00
    talking to some similar wait I want to
  • 1:06:02
    say something about the vocal five so
  • 1:06:03
    you guys some woman has given you a lot
  • 1:06:05
    of vocal fry' is setting ridiculing her
  • 1:06:08
    like we tend to do we pretty much
  • 1:06:10
    everything is go oh you poor thing well
  • 1:06:16
    we now have an eye that in your heart
  • 1:06:18
    it's not worth saying yours your so you
  • 1:06:21
    must be so sad and miserable it's no
  • 1:06:24
    longer vocal fry' its vocal cry vocal
  • 1:06:28
    crime local crime now we understand
  • 1:06:32
    and I think we if we pay attention we
  • 1:06:34
    might learn in that particular how other
  • 1:06:37
    women but men too of course I mean I
  • 1:06:39
    respond to the sound of a baby yeah
  • 1:06:45
    that's actually it's actually not the
  • 1:06:48
    way I respond but some people do yes if
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    you've had enough of them and they're
  • 1:06:54
    still living in your house yeah I
  • 1:06:55
    understand these I understand that too
  • 1:06:57
    response and since I mention it I think
  • 1:07:00
    we need to have an okay boomer segment
  • 1:07:02
    on this show this is the this is we need
  • 1:07:05
    a jingle for you a segment we have okay
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    boomer okay boomer it's okay with you
  • 1:07:11
    it's okay with me okay boomer okay
  • 1:07:15
    boomer it's okay boomer know that know
  • 1:07:21
    that but it will be the next no agenda
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    animated show that's for sure
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    so the and now I have a question because
  • 1:07:28
    boomer the cutoff is 1964 yeah does that
  • 1:07:34
    mean if you're born in 1964 second half
  • 1:07:39
    of 1964 am I still a boomer or is the
  • 1:07:43
    cutoff at the at the December 31st 63
  • 1:07:48
    well I think it has to be based on the
  • 1:07:52
    end of World War two
  • 1:07:53
    whatever date that was that would be the
  • 1:07:55
    date the cutoff date because boomers
  • 1:07:58
    came right boomers technically or the
  • 1:08:00
    right at the end of World War two us
  • 1:08:01
    when boomers began no just the beginning
  • 1:08:04
    but what's the could get me yeah well
  • 1:08:06
    that would be this would be a that would
  • 1:08:08
    be your fiscal year so the end of World
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    War two whatever that date is someone
  • 1:08:12
    could look it up well here's what I
  • 1:08:14
    here's what I have boomers born 1946 to
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    1964 between okay between 54 and 72
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    years old
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    yeah
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    what you and you're gonna herb that
  • 1:08:30
    you're like a late bloomer
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    a late bloomer no I just want to know
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    who my people are John because I want to
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    make sure why we get longer you barely
  • 1:08:40
    made the cut man I'm like I'm second
  • 1:08:45
    string boomer I just want to make sure
  • 1:08:47
    that I can feel spoken to when people
  • 1:08:51
    say okay boomer this actually happens to
  • 1:08:53
    me now okay boomer telling and what in
  • 1:08:57
    what universe did you wake up and think
  • 1:08:58
    that that would insult me but okay okay
  • 1:09:00
    boomer I think okay boomer is and I like
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    it because I I do identify as a second
  • 1:09:07
    string boomer I identify with things
  • 1:09:09
    changing that I don't like change it
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    from second stream this is a bad
  • 1:09:14
    attitude it's not second string it's a
  • 1:09:16
    second way second way back bencher let's
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    call I'm a backbencher boomer so I'm on
  • 1:09:23
    the back bench but then I hear what
  • 1:09:25
    they're doing with certain things and
  • 1:09:27
    the boomer in me wants to protest the
  • 1:09:30
    change to the ABC song which I don't
  • 1:09:34
    know if this some derivative of common
  • 1:09:36
    core or right yes so the ABC song has
  • 1:09:41
    the older boomer mm-hmm the og boomer
  • 1:09:44
    boomer oh gee I don't know this but you
  • 1:09:49
    know the song of course ABCD efg hijk
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    rst uvwxyz next time won't you sing with
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    me ABCD
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    [Music]
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    F - thanks bye j k l m n o P Q R tau W X
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    Y Z I want to shoot myself when I hear
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    this this is not good for the universe
  • 1:10:28
    we're out of balance with this
  • 1:10:31
    where did that come from Disney
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    oh they're trying to I don't want to I'm
  • 1:10:39
    gonna say it you're trying to fuck with
  • 1:10:41
    us they're trying to upset the forces of
  • 1:10:44
    the universe is over there's something
  • 1:10:47
    up with this well they can't do that
  • 1:10:49
    or maybe man but change the order maybe
  • 1:10:52
    John Mandela effect maybe it was always
  • 1:10:56
    this way if we just don't realize it in
  • 1:11:01
    that crazy where did you get that
  • 1:11:04
    well someone sent it to me and I was on
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    the on the youtubes and I can I my
  • 1:11:09
    clipped it sure they didn't show no no
  • 1:11:16
    no no no that'd be going too far
  • 1:11:18
    it's reprogramming of some sorts I mean
  • 1:11:21
    yes when you say Disney is effing with
  • 1:11:23
    us and you know I'm Way too polite to
  • 1:11:25
    say the f-word I think you're right I'm
  • 1:11:29
    not sure what it is but I mean this is
  • 1:11:32
    almost like the three more days till
  • 1:11:35
    Halloween till they're shamrock it's
  • 1:11:38
    like they're gonna trigger these kids
  • 1:11:39
    and gonna zombies gonna go and kill
  • 1:11:41
    everybody I don't know this I do not
  • 1:11:43
    like the chain and okay boomer I don't
  • 1:11:46
    like this song the way they've done it
  • 1:11:48
    I find it jarring
  • 1:11:51
    and what's the point what's the point I
  • 1:11:54
    know always the point I know the point
  • 1:11:56
    because they felt LMNOP was not
  • 1:12:00
    pronounced correctly or if we went too
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    fast and therefore the the letters l m n
  • 1:12:08
    o & p were getting gypped it wasn't fair
  • 1:12:11
    to them somehow
  • 1:12:14
    well that's a stretch I don't know LMNOP
  • 1:12:18
    we're getting gypped don't know it's too
  • 1:12:21
    much Sesame Street it's it's a bad deal
  • 1:12:24
    this whole thing is bad well with that
  • 1:12:28
    nose got the rails but okay I'd like to
  • 1:12:31
    thank you for your courage and say in
  • 1:12:33
    the morning to you the man who just put
  • 1:12:35
    the C and vocal cry in the morning all
  • 1:12:43
    strips to see boots on the ground and
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    all the Dames tonight's out there in the
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    morning to the trolls in our troll room
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    extraordinaire which you can join
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    yourself at No Agenda stream com every
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    single day
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    Darrin Oh is doing that in the pre
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    stream which is another example every
  • 1:13:01
    single day there's live programming at
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    No Agenda stream comm and I just
  • 1:13:04
    realized this thing's you know people do
  • 1:13:07
    listen to it we need to have a listing
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    of what shows are on because a lot of
  • 1:13:12
    people hear something like oh shit what
  • 1:13:13
    show is that I want to find out what
  • 1:13:14
    show that was so we have to come up with
  • 1:13:16
    some kind of after-the-fact program
  • 1:13:19
    guide or some rig
  • 1:13:20
    oh god another grid in my life but it's
  • 1:13:23
    a great place to hang out you can listen
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    to the live stream of any of our shows
  • 1:13:27
    that are live but of course we have
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    repeat replays and and just a nice
  • 1:13:33
    cornucopia of content and you can find
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    that at no agenda stream calm hello
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    illustrate your car that's right stream
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    it through bluetooth through your
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    you wish and in the morning to the
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    artiste who brought us the artwork for a
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    episode 1189 and this was I believe was
  • 1:13:55
    that data was a data who brought this to
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    us no it doesn't sound right
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    know there's something there's the wrong
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    credit here on the page which I'm very
  • 1:14:05
    sad about now ya know I'm sad about that
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    because I want everyone to be credited
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    properly now the artist was it was
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    Darren it was Darren oh I knew it
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    Darren Oh Neil Nevers a refresh my
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    browser I fixed it now we had a lot to
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    choose from and there were some very
  • 1:14:22
    good pieces and what and what we chose
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    was John Bolton or as the kids say
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    Bolton and a black bar with the letters
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    anonymous over his eyes so it was very
  • 1:14:36
    obvious that it was him of course with
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    that moustache there was another one
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    which I believe comic strip blogger did
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    which was just the mustache which was
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    esoteric and and kind of cool and I'd
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    like the way it I'd liked the way it
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    played but I think we both decided
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    unanimously that it would be a good idea
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    to support our Handler Steve Botanic
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    with his mission to prove that John
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    Bolton is the anonymous is the author
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    known as anonymous of the book and of
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    the op-ed in the New York Times and so
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    we decided we'd be good players in the
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    game isn't that what happened yep and
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    that's what we do I wish that the some
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    of these these agencies would send us
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    more money yeah because we're doing the
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    Lord's work doing great work here people
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    get on it thank you very much dare
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    knowing all our artists who participate
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    in our value for value network by
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    helping us out in this manner by
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    creating artwork that we can use not
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    just for the album art which is a great
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    win of course but all just having a
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    display to no agenda art generator calm
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    people love going through that and
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    checking all the different crazy pieces
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    out some gets on mugs and shirts and
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    hoodies at No Agenda shop calm and you
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    can do whatever you want with it it's uh
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    it's another great resource and we have
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    ten times the amount of images that
  • 1:15:58
    we've that we have shows which kind of
  • 1:15:59
    gives you an idea of how many people
  • 1:16:01
    compete for this and you can contribute
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    and if you like it it's tough though
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    because people do it during the live
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    stream we choose it right after the
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    show's over no agenda art generator calm
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    and we have a number of it in the in the
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    Texas that they came in their word there
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    was a note that came in I should have
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    read it during your your little
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    exposition on glottal stops mm-hmm
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    because this is a letter that came in
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    condemning you oh yay for not talking
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    about what you just talked about but the
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    timing was a little he I think maybe
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    would complete but let me read this okay
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    hi there John this is a written a novel
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    it was stuffed in an envelope by the way
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    I got it also somebody sent a couple of
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    Jeffrey Epstein didn't kill himself
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    bumper stickers who was J put on her
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    Volkswagen no I want one yeah I bet you
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    do you gonna put it on a bumper yeah on
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    Tina's merriam-webster dictionary for
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    the definition of glottal stop Wikipedia
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    also has an entry for it
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    the missing T found sound in important
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    is not being dropped it's being replaced
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    by another consonant for which there is
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    no letter in English the glottal stop
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    which we just discussed surprising or
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    not that the putative linguistic expert
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    the painting on the clip was unfamiliar
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    with the term and adopted your dropping
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    the T description he added nothing to
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    the conversation clearly nobody likes
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    this guy no and he is not he's not come
  • 1:17:45
    back into the I think he's giving up on
  • 1:17:48
    the show that popped up during my recent
  • 1:17:51
    search was the term that Adam may like
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    glottal ization no one will stop
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    phenomenon at least a year ago oh yeah
  • 1:18:03
    I'm I'm a dick but he's a busy feller
  • 1:18:06
    and I must have missed it in time must
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    have missed it entirely and then he says
  • 1:18:11
    the creepin globalism has got to stop
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    but isn't it isn't it got ization you
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    can't set globalization it's got to be
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    got ization if you wanted to be modern
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    don't think so not hey now I'm gonna
  • 1:18:27
    start reading I we get into the
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    donations I'm sorry I delayed it but
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    there's a name mentioned in the first
  • 1:18:34
    line of this that the guy wants to be
  • 1:18:36
    anonymous I don't understand is that him
  • 1:18:39
    or is that somebody else still here I'm
  • 1:18:43
    what I'm what I think happened but I'm
  • 1:18:45
    not sure so we cannot do it I believe
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    anonymous who comes in from China
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    Guangdong
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    wan-soo
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    this was as gwangsu guandong yeah he's
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    in the state of gwaan don't I like how
  • 1:19:03
    you yell at me when I do that makes me
  • 1:19:06
    makes me feel loved and wanted it makes
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    possible you forget yeah it's possible
  • 1:19:18
    that he wanted to make someone a night
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    oh I see cuz there's a new Baker don't
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    mention the name cuz I don't know and
  • 1:19:29
    Eric didn't market so and it's not on
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    the list so I I don't believe that this
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    is I don't think we should risk it
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    particularly if someone's in China it's
  • 1:19:41
    not a good idea to risk but we are
  • 1:19:44
    having trouble cuz they follow
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    everything and the Chinese probably do
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    listen to the show well they're taking
  • 1:19:50
    their foreign policy advice from us
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    hello's okay will will will that it will
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    put it in abeyance add the total to
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    followed his donation which is very
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    i TM in honor of my 40 second trip
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    towards Darren O'Neal's knighthood Wow
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    on Darren hey Darren my only request is
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    such that Darren O'Neill I'd think
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    Darren is still still hanging out
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    Darrin if you if you want to be knighted
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    today we can do it because this does
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    knighthood I just need to know what your
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    what your what your Knight name will be
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    in twice a second let me get the help I
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    have to stop right here a second zephyr
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    just went by oh the economy is booming
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    no the five dime really the first ever
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    went by on time and now it's 10:30 my
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    my Amtrak well a scheduler and adopt the
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    doubt on the Dow was up 92 I'm telling
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    you this is an economic indicator yes
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    the more cars the better and now you
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    cannot deny that that's oh wait a minute
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    I just refreshed hmm no the dow is now
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    down 35 okay so you're I think you're
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    it's in there SIA so what Darryl comes
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    himself Dame something cuz it's the Dame
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    yeah right anyone that says they have no
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    were facing a long term a long drive
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    from from Denver to Oklahoma City so I
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    gave it a chance I was pleasantly
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    and particularly enjoyed the jingles the
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    content from the producers and your
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    in-depth explanation exploration of
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    topics in the m5m that they ignore I was
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    particularly struck by your willingness
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    to criticize Hillary Clinton but not in
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    the way that a conservative pundit like
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    Limbaugh or Hannity and of course Trump