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1144: Climate Optimist

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 55m
June 6th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir Hoopensocker, Jacob Shultis

Associate Executive Producers: Emma Blumer, Sir Dick Bangs, Somoza Candace

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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1:20
Vox Adpocalypse
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10:07
Vox: 'You’re Watching Fox News. You Just Don’t Know It.'
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20:09
Jeff Zucker: "CNN Is Seeking The Truth"
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24:35
The Daily Beast Accused of Doxxing Facebook User Who Created Drunk Nancy Pelosi Video
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33:35
Axios: 'Jared Kushner Asked About Trump's Promotion of Birtherism'
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37:09
AC's Haircut
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40:23
Trump's UK Trip
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49:39
The Guardian: 'Sadiq Khan to Trump: You Stand For the Opposite of London's Values'
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53:13
Trump Calls Sadiq Khan & Jeremy Corbyn 'Negative Forces'
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58:26
Trump Mentions UK's National Health Service When Commenting on US-UK Trade Talks
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1:01:44
Melania Trump's UK Visit Outfits
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1:03:07
PBS NewsHour: 'In Britain, Trump Combines Ceremony With Controversy'
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1:09:41
Trump Asked If He's Willing to Meet With Iranian Leaders
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1:10:39
Trump's Lizard Family
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1:12:11
Trump Accused of Calling The Duchess of Sussex Meghan Markle 'Nasty'
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1:14:33
Credits
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1:37:20
Nancy Pelosi
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1:43:18
Jamie Raskin
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1:46:54
Australian Federal Police Raid News Corp Journalist's House & ABC Headquarters
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1:52:43
US Senator Rand Paul Calls For Revoking Former CIA Director John Brennan's Security Clearance
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1:53:41
DNC Email Leak Transferred Through USB Port
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1:55:11
Steve Pieczenik: "US Will Release Julian Assange Under Special Circumstances"
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1:59:07
JCD's Criminology Course
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2:02:02
Hillary Clinton's Prediction on Her Haircut When In Office
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2:02:44
Austin City Council Considers Changing Homelessness Ordinances
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2:08:19
Producer Note: Homelessness
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2:14:01
Donations
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2:25:42
Meetups
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2:26:46
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:28:29
Producer Note: Mainstream Media Podcast Production
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2:31:39
'Neighbors by Ring' App
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2:41:24
Apple's WWDC 2019 Keynote
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2:44:20
Native Advertisment for Walmart on CBS
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2:44:57
USA Today: 'HPV Vaccine Prevents Anal Cancer, Too, Desperate Housewives' Marcia Cross Reminds Us'
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2:47:12
Study Finds White Meat Just As Bad As Red Meat For Your Cholesterol
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2:49:23
End of Show
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    I also like women's clothing Adam curry
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    Johnson media assassination episode 11
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    44 this is no agenda good morning
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    everybody
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    Adam Curry and from northern Silicon
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    Valley where I'm asking the question why
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    do we kill watermelons
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    I'm jazzy boy this may qualify as a
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    great question please expand seems seems
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    brutal why are we know they're not there
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    minding their own business and they're
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    accumulating water mm-hmm and so they
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    get to be huge some of them look huge
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    and they're filled with water and some
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    seeds yeah and they're hoping here we go
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    the environmental activist John C Dvorak
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    aside we've never seen before it's it's
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    really it's quite touching yeah and then
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    the watermelon would like reproduce but
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    no people would go eat the watermelon
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    that's not true cruel watermelons
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    reproduce all the time just look at John
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    Kerry's head all right we might as well
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    start right away with setting something
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    very straight with our producers yeah
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    because I've seen at least 10 different
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    tweets can't wait for you guys to
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    deconstruct this box pocalypse box ad
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    pocalypse box ad D monetization scandal
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    so we need to once and for all clarify
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    what's going on have you followed any of
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    this with the youtubes with their new
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    rules and and D monetizing thousands
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    well I was thinking about this and I was
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    thinking about you
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    what I was thinking about was would you
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    you or yeah I'm probably in the camp too
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    why is you two paying anybody anything
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    okay well you're actually jumping ahead
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    before we get to that point just a quick
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    background err um this is a game and the
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    game typically plays out on Twitter with
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    verified badges and the game is let's
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    see first if you can get a badge and
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    then if you have a badge you have to
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    fight against everybody else who has a
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    badge who you don't like so their badge
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    can be taken away this is the verified
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    status either that any badge has been
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    taken away oh yes oh yes people have
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    been unverified oh yeah it's great it's
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    like some punishment you're no longer
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    verified okay I guess now that's that's
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    part of the punishment but now but now
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    we have YouTube where we have people
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    fighting this political discourse and
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    then saying you know one youtuber says
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    something to another youtuber and I
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    guess even crowder criticized carlos
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    masa of Vox who does a kind of
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    provocative gay he's gay
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    but you know gayish videos trying to you
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    know basically call people out to do
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    something that he can then in the game
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    go and get them demonetised e-platform
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    Det cetera and that's literally what it
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    is this game but the term demonetized is
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    where I draw the line this is not about
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    D monetization and this is why I'm it
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    drives me not to see no agenda people
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    not thinking this through this is not
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    about YouTube punishing somebody for oh
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    well we don't agree with what you're
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    saying oh no we're gonna take away your
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    money it is not about that this is D
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    commercialization again this is only
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    about big brands I'll use AT&T as an
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    example since I have a quote from them
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    big brands who do not want any
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    controversy they want bruh a brand safe
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    environment
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    we care deeply about where we appear and
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    whether it reflects our values and
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    whether it breaks that trust with our
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    consumers spokes whole for AT&T it was a
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    moment to remind us that marketers must
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    have their hands on the wheel at all
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    times of their brands destiny what oh
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    yeah that said that as powerful as
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    digital platforms are in today's
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    advertising ecosystem they can't be
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    permitted to disempower the brands that
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    use them to reach their customers any
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    non-human curated platform will have
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    risks the question is our advertisers
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    willing to take the risks and generally
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    speaking now brand unsafe or
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    inappropriate things happen and it comes
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    down to you hoping to get the obvious
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    things this is just from you're still
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    reading this New York Times yeah bit
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    with AT&T why would they write something
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    like this up who would do who the New
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    York Times was the New York Times yeah
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    that's the New York Times I thought you
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    were talking about I thought it was a
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    letter from AT&T yes it's a New York
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    Times article an AT&T person talking
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    about YouTube okay and what they don't
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    want and so it's not about D
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    monetization you're absolutely right
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    YouTube Google doesn't give a crap if
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    you make 10 cents if you make 10 million
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    they don't care they really don't all
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    they want is the remove the any
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    possibility that any piece of content
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    might appear next to an advertiser or an
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    advertiser appear next to that person
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    which is why you D monetize you don't de
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    monetize you D advertise D commercialize
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    so you there's no there's no risk to
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    them it R is not punishment your video
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    is just as dumb and by the way it shows
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    that you will have no chance with your
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    content if you think you're gonna make
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    money with advertising anywhere just
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    doesn't work
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    well I don't want to back up to back up
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    too far but how is it that this is
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    important a and B why what what
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    deconstruction is needed we've been
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    talking about this exact same topic for
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    a decade well there's no deconstruct all
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    that's needed is to understand the terms
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    properly I think you not someone is not
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    being demonetised that's what someone
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    who no longer receives a check says
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    unimportant in the game and before the
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    eight billion a quarter or whatever
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    Google has in actual profit
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    it's about D commercialization get rid
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    of the ads on that channel hey and this
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    guy keeps doing weird stuff get rid of
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    them altogether what you're you're in
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    the media people are talking about you
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    and you're weird now get off we don't
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    want you we don't want you near our
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    advertisers that's it
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    now of course what's cool about it is
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    ultimately people will move somewhere
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    else now will advertisers move over and
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    start to pay people and monetary
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    monetize them no no there's a couple of
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    ways it can be done this show is one
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    example of them obviously but a lot of
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    these people and personalities and
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    channels will just need to go away you
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    know my favorite thing about this is
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    some guy gets you know kicked off or
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    whatever they do well we need do you
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    have to be demand his return yeah
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    that'll work well then so the troll room
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    immediately says it's only conservatives
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    and people who like Trump who are
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    getting banned yes hello have you looked
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    at mainstream television it's the same
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    advertisers they don't want anything to
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    do that can be deemed as promoting Trump
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    that is negative they can't sit in the
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    boardroom and have someone bring it up
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    they can't sit at their dinners and have
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    someone bring it up hey why you why are
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    you I saw an ad of yours need this guy
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    who likes Trump that's right
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    so it's knocked it's it so the there is
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    one there's one well there's two ways
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    out one is do what we do value for value
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    and take your vow of poverty which I
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    think a lot of YouTube creators already
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    have a sign signed up to and the other
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    way is to go after all advertisers and
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    say you know what if your address here I
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    hate you I hate you AT&T for the doesn't
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    matter what video it's on just post that
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    do what sleeping giants does do what
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    media matters does it's gonna it's not
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    gonna help but it'll make you feel
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    better because that's where that's where
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    the true powers will really have power
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    anyway so this is not about D
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    monetization the term is d commercial as
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    I Natan got it
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    after me great wrap up curry well done
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    you nailed it
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    dynamite that's why I'm a podcaster I do
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    want to play just a minute and a half of
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    this this Carlos masa just because his
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    idea of this whole thing one past you
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    get the notes you got I don't know any
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    of this stuff and I don't care that well
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    then why do you want to know what you're
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    talking about know who it is
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    okay so Vox media who I think their main
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    and investor at this point is NBC
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    Comcast NBC like 200 million dollars yes
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    they're just throwing money in and it's
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    money thrown away but okay then they
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    think it's the right way to go and this
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    one guy Carlos masa does videos for Vox
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    and here is an example I'm done I'm
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    finally done watching Fox News it's
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    rotting my brain and only boomers watch
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    that crap anyway
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    the way are you starting to understand
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    why this guy is not d commercialized you
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    know he's hating on Fox News this is
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    Plus this is how you stay in the money
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    John let's send him an attaboy he's
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    doing real well that actually matters
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    they'll never have to worry about Fox
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    News ever a - of the headlines on Fox
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    News Tonight gotten a lot of attention
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    thanks to Fox News on Fox News
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    stir day on Fox News last night on a
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    Reilly's morning play this clip from Fox
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    live from Fox clip from Fox News it
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    makes my head explode when I see these
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    clips from Fox News
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    oh god it's everywhere there's no escape
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    thank God for Fox News it got for Fox
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    you get the truth thank God for Fox News
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    our otherwise no one would be talking
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    about these issues in an ideal world
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    political journalism looks like this on
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    either side you've got the parties
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    fighting for the attention of the press
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    and in the middle you've got journalists
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    sorting through what's important and
  • 11:28
    what's just partisan bullshit this is
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    called gatekeeping and that's one of the
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    most important things journalists do is
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    this true is this how it works
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    journalists are gatekeepers then they
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    call themselves of that and they're
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    proud of this there's there's more truth
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    to that I'm with you on that but is that
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    something that they teach in j-school no
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    what is derived and what's just partisan
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    bullshit this is called gatekeeping and
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    it's one of the most important things
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    journalists do political operatives can
  • 12:05
    spin whatever talking points they want
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    but ultimately it's the journalists who
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    decide what's newsworthy enough to pay
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    attention to but that is in an ideal
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    world and we don't live in an ideal
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    world we live in hell and in hell
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    there's fox news fox exists in this
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    weird in-between space because they
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    claims to be a news organization but
  • 12:22
    it's essentially a Republican front
  • 12:23
    group so this is why this guy stays in
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    business people love that and so
  • 12:29
    whatever he said I think his screen name
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    is a wonky fag or something really weird
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    something
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    dumb and what's his name steven crowder
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    you know he's playing he's doing the
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    David Goliath thing which is sometimes
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    it works and so he would make jokes
  • 12:49
    about him and in a talk show format with
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    opinion and YouTube said well that's
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    kind of okay because you know it's just
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    a talk show and he's MIT has an opinion
  • 12:59
    he's not necessarily you know beating up
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    on someone specifically he's responding
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    well that this is Cadbury and so that's
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    when this whole thing started off and
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    then they D commercialized him which
  • 13:12
    just spun it into overdrive and then
  • 13:15
    YouTube came out actually they they went
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    to the anti-defamation league you know
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    they went to all their guys Southern
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    Poverty Law Center and that's how they
  • 13:26
    came up with the actually they had a
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    website changed that changed the terms
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    or because they were really for
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    independent fact checkers from doing
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    interesting campaigns but I have here I
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    think the article that will the kind of
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    how it started off but it went awry so
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    the way this started off is it being a
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    Pride Month LGBTQ queue LGBTQIA apk
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    Pride Month this could not stand that
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    Crowder was you know saying hey you've I
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    think he said he had a t-shirt or
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    something it's a socialism is for fags I
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    don't know what it was it's completely
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    unimportant and so the outrage off with
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    his head the outrage at first was
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    YouTube is is letting people especially
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    during Pride Month they're letting them
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    hurt LGBT and they're giving them tools
  • 14:23
    to hurt LGBT bullying and sadly for the
  • 14:28
    LGBTQ community this they were abused as
  • 14:32
    usual because it's really just about
  • 14:33
    monetization now all you hear about is
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    the money the money the money money
  • 14:37
    which you know arguably no one really
  • 14:39
    deserves in the first place and if you
  • 14:41
    build a career on that yeah
  • 14:43
    podcasting does
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    it is an entrepreneurial business same
  • 14:48
    with youtubers and you have to keep an
  • 14:51
    eye on the business side of it and he
  • 14:53
    and if you don't then oh well sorry so
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    that's basically what oh you're saying
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    that the naivete of the the probably the
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    t-shirt didn't help was not keeping an
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    eye on the business side yeah I mean
  • 15:10
    when you're at take a commercial
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    operation this sort of thing is drummed
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    into you yeah YouTube is a commercial
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    operation people are confused about this
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    they seem to be confused it's not a
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    charitable organization they're just
  • 15:24
    giving you money because you're a
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    good-looking guy
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    the IRA might but they're but there's a
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    certain there's a certain sort of stupid
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    thing that bothers me is the is the
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    bullcrap from the top that disclaims any
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    idea that there's non objectivity taking
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    place in other words they well know well
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    we don't we do we don't do that this was
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    for a good reason that we've cut this
  • 15:50
    guy out there's a good reason he was
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    mean and I'm gonna take it right back to
  • 15:56
    the New York Times and I'm gonna take it
  • 15:58
    back to an interview I was somewhere on
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    the net somewhere I was given I was
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    talking with one of the old editors one
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    of the famous old editors that was doing
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    a book on various personalities and in
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    new media and I was being interviewed on
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    the video and I mentioned to him I said
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    well you know there is a self-censorship
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    thing that goes on it goes on everywhere
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    sure a writer for example will you know
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    say that you kind of know that some
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    specific advertiser is really spending
  • 16:31
    most of their money on your publication
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    that is not the time that smart writer
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    would go and do a story about five g's
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    an investigative piece on that company
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    showing that the that the CEO is a
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    douchebag
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    yeah exactly and that's what you do if
  • 16:52
    you're working for that company called
  • 16:53
    self-preservation self-preservation yeah
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    the editor says to me I don't have his
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    name handy he Anna which is somewhat
  • 17:02
    insulting I guess but I'm sorry he says
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    to me what if all I knew a reporter was
  • 17:10
    doing that he'd be out the door
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    exactly exact everybody I knew this ever
  • 17:19
    worked for the New York Times including
  • 17:21
    some people that retired from the New
  • 17:23
    York Times they're all had their jaw
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    drop his bullcrap
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    we all do that you have to do that you
  • 17:29
    don't want to get fired for calling out
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    some advertiser in that way yeah not
  • 17:35
    necessarily you can always put the story
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    off so there so I'm but I think he was
  • 17:41
    sincere when he said this he actually
  • 17:42
    thought for some crazy reason I guess it
  • 17:46
    was never a reporter that people don't
  • 17:50
    act this way and that's what you do and
  • 17:51
    that's what you do to keep from being
  • 17:52
    kicked off the platform's you have to be
  • 17:55
    smart and if you're if your revenue is
  • 17:58
    derived from advertising which I think
  • 18:00
    most people who are YouTube creators are
  • 18:03
    Zoomers and Millennials who hate
  • 18:05
    advertise and don't give a crap about it
  • 18:07
    and they just forget that you know the
  • 18:09
    money you see the check you see is from
  • 18:11
    the advertising that shows up and if
  • 18:13
    you're going to do anything that is
  • 18:15
    adverse to that then the ads will stop
  • 18:17
    it's a house how simple is this to
  • 18:19
    understand and that it is of course
  • 18:24
    conservatives and people who support
  • 18:26
    Trump of course it is advertisers don't
  • 18:28
    want any part of it go turn on Fox look
  • 18:31
    at Tucker Carlson the my pillow guy has
  • 18:33
    a three-minute infomercial every break
  • 18:36
    they can't sell it they can't sell
  • 18:39
    anymore it's been very successful the
  • 18:43
    subaru commercial or toyota yeah Lexus
  • 18:48
    or even have even those drug companies
  • 18:50
    yeah although there are some drug
  • 18:52
    companies that are in there he's done
  • 18:54
    some a lot of anti drug company stuff
  • 18:56
    which is good and it won't last
  • 19:01
    Tucker Carlson will not last it's it's
  • 19:05
    not it's not a possibility in the world
  • 19:08
    of media
  • 19:09
    they will have to change a needed he's
  • 19:12
    probably right and either he's gonna
  • 19:13
    have to go on some sales calls and
  • 19:15
    adjust some things or but even then I
  • 19:18
    I'm just not sure who will do it that no
  • 19:21
    one wants the risk there's plenty of
  • 19:22
    outlets yeah you don't need to advertise
  • 19:25
    on Tucker's show unless you're a huge
  • 19:27
    Tucker fan and and if you're a Tucker
  • 19:29
    fan and only advertising for that reason
  • 19:32
    the board should get you out of the
  • 19:33
    company there's even an analogy to the
  • 19:35
    value for value model there's lots of
  • 19:37
    people who love to support the show and
  • 19:40
    they love to even have a note read but
  • 19:42
    they want to be anonymous okay
  • 19:44
    understood respected doesn't work when
  • 19:47
    the advertiser wants to be anonymous
  • 19:52
    do this it's I don't know so that's our
  • 19:55
    deconstruction we've been doing it for
  • 19:57
    11 years
  • 19:58
    you should understand by now it's deemed
  • 19:59
    II commercialization and of course it's
  • 20:02
    targeted at people who who support the
  • 20:05
    president because look at the mainstream
  • 20:06
    but in fact it always will be you sent
  • 20:09
    me I pulled the clip from it I was
  • 20:12
    surprised I didn't I didn't see it show
  • 20:14
    up in your clips this Jeff Zucker about
  • 20:17
    talking about CNN did you not clip that
  • 20:19
    even though you what did you send it to
  • 20:20
    me hoping I would clip it feel like it
  • 20:25
    well I clipped it and this is Jeff
  • 20:27
    Zucker talking about CNN's position in
  • 20:30
    the cable news business he is the boss
  • 20:34
    of CNN where was he before he was NBC
  • 20:37
    before genius at NBC who put Leno on
  • 20:42
    every day of the week at 10 o'clock
  • 20:44
    kicking off all the tentpole shows that
  • 20:47
    was done by Dick Wolf it took him five
  • 20:48
    years to recover all that didn't take
  • 20:54
    them five years to recover from that
  • 20:56
    I don't know they've ever recovered from
  • 20:59
    it to be honest about that point here's
  • 21:00
    Jeff Zucker now it's a CNN and doing
  • 21:03
    quite well as they are very low in
  • 21:05
    thinks you you're now in a in a in a
  • 21:08
    real race in many ways on cable
  • 21:11
    television CNN has huge reach digitally
  • 21:14
    but you also have this on television
  • 21:16
    itself you've got this kind of political
  • 21:18
    map the MSNBC
  • 21:21
    has branded itself were four years brand
  • 21:23
    that itself is kind of the liberal or
  • 21:25
    left-leaning station although they seem
  • 21:26
    to be getting bit by bit out of that
  • 21:28
    business not in primetime though they
  • 21:30
    still are very much important think
  • 21:31
    they'll get out of that business out of
  • 21:33
    the liberal yeah no how would you draw
  • 21:36
    the map of the three obvious Kay so
  • 21:37
    there's three cable news networks right
  • 21:40
    right and obviously you know Fox News is
  • 21:45
    I can't believe he is just shunning one
  • 21:49
    America news this is outrageous
  • 21:54
    cable news networks you know certainly
  • 21:58
    in in primetime and in the morning Fox's
  • 22:01
    state-run TV and is extolling the the
  • 22:05
    line out of the White House MSNBC has
  • 22:08
    become the opposition and I think CNN is
  • 22:12
    seeking the truth and that's really the
  • 22:14
    way we look at the map and state-run TV
  • 22:17
    the opposition and we're looking for the
  • 22:20
    truth you think the other two networks
  • 22:23
    are not broadcasting the truth well I
  • 22:26
    think that and that's CNN has a hold on
  • 22:30
    the objective truth
  • 22:31
    look III think that there are clear
  • 22:34
    agendas at work at the other cable news
  • 22:36
    networks depending on their political
  • 22:40
    points of view well I don't know if this
  • 22:43
    is the best strategy to be looking at
  • 22:45
    the truth it appears that not going for
  • 22:47
    the truth is much more successful yeah
  • 22:50
    well of course the other thing is about
  • 22:51
    the other thing to consider is that he's
  • 22:54
    deluded in what way they're not
  • 23:00
    objective for the truth they're more
  • 23:02
    they're just as bad as MSNBC they're
  • 23:04
    extremely slanted they have terrible
  • 23:08
    shows they're just all bashing Trump I
  • 23:11
    mean come on who's he kidding when AB
  • 23:13
    real news story breaks out let's say
  • 23:15
    like in Russia when they were you know
  • 23:17
    doing the fall of communism was taking
  • 23:20
    place seeing and will put people there
  • 23:21
    and do a really good job of coverage
  • 23:23
    that's what they do best
  • 23:24
    but that doesn't happen but once every
  • 23:27
    year or two all that kind of entity of
  • 23:29
    the green screen in Iraq they're really
  • 23:32
    good coverage
  • 23:34
    yeah that's well that's another thing
  • 23:36
    they're different spending I just think
  • 23:39
    that they were deluded they're not doing
  • 23:42
    a very good job of anything
  • 23:43
    they're extremely slanted and bigoted
  • 23:46
    it's a horrible operation now you wonder
  • 23:49
    why nobody watches that even though the
  • 23:50
    left if they want to watch something
  • 23:52
    they'll watch MSNBC which is at least
  • 23:54
    entertaining yeah oh yeah for me it's
  • 23:57
    MSNBC all day seriously and and
  • 24:01
    sometimes I just want to say that I just
  • 24:03
    can't imagine you there sitting there
  • 24:05
    hunched over Italy leaning forward from
  • 24:07
    the couch popcorn let's let's understand
  • 24:11
    and I have it streaming to my hearing
  • 24:14
    aids in the background all day so I'm
  • 24:16
    just walking around worse I'm not
  • 24:20
    allowed on the street in that condition
  • 24:21
    cuz it could be very dangerous to myself
  • 24:24
    but yeah it's it's fantastic it's I
  • 24:27
    really really enjoy listening to it I
  • 24:30
    could pull a million clips from it but
  • 24:31
    then you know who gives a shit you can
  • 24:33
    watch that yourself
  • 24:34
    I did get a clip from CNN regarding this
  • 24:38
    daxing of this guy who did the Nancy the
  • 24:42
    pants the explosive video
  • 24:45
    that's another thing I kind of missed
  • 24:48
    the daxing I heard about it I think it's
  • 24:52
    bullshit things I think it's bullshit I
  • 24:53
    think it was bullish whole thing else
  • 24:56
    seems to be it was it's and I think it
  • 24:59
    started maybe even on Fox and Friends so
  • 25:02
    the story went like this I didn't clip
  • 25:04
    any of this but the story went like so
  • 25:06
    the guy makes a video he's just a single
  • 25:08
    guy just one guy making a little mean it
  • 25:10
    turns out he has a whole bunch of
  • 25:12
    websites that he runs memes on and makes
  • 25:15
    money on but okay
  • 25:17
    and he's also african-american and then
  • 25:20
    they went to Facebook and Facebook said
  • 25:22
    this is the guy and they docked them
  • 25:24
    they outed in it like wow Facebook
  • 25:27
    really did that I have a hard time
  • 25:29
    believing that and although it doesn't
  • 25:31
    explicitly debunk it in this clip this
  • 25:33
    is the reliable sources with Brian
  • 25:36
    seltzer water and the I know if it's the
  • 25:39
    guy who wrote the story I'm from daily
  • 25:41
    beast or who broke the story or the
  • 25:43
    editor or whatever and he gives little
  • 25:44
    insight as to what happened and who this
  • 25:46
    guy is this is a video that was a hoax
  • 25:49
    that reached up the highest highest
  • 25:51
    levels of power with it let's just stop
  • 25:53
    it it's not a hoax it wasn't a hoax it
  • 25:57
    was at least a meme if not I mean
  • 26:05
    John's not a hoax maybe no no this video
  • 26:13
    sounding like she's drunk that video
  • 26:16
    that's what this is about the Pelosi
  • 26:18
    video yes
  • 26:20
    the Pelosi it was a hoax it wasn't at
  • 26:25
    the same speed but it wasn't like a hoax
  • 26:28
    yeah so satire and humor is now hoax
  • 26:32
    this is a video that was a hoax that
  • 26:35
    reached up to the highest highest levels
  • 26:38
    of power with Ronnie himself stop you're
  • 26:42
    not gonna tell me that he's gonna go on
  • 26:44
    and claim that Trump reposted that video
  • 26:47
    and it was no snow I wish no I wish it
  • 26:50
    he almost did that yeah I know I was
  • 26:53
    like oh here we go no I didn't do that
  • 26:54
    pushing it out and so there was a lot of
  • 26:57
    speculation about who might or might not
  • 26:59
    be behind this and so Kevin Poulsen was
  • 27:01
    able to track down the kind of network
  • 27:04
    of fake news sites that were pushing
  • 27:06
    this and then the person that first
  • 27:08
    uploaded the video and what we learn
  • 27:10
    from the story is that there's a profit
  • 27:11
    motive here that you can put up a lot of
  • 27:13
    these videos on Facebook you can make a
  • 27:15
    quick buck didn't this guy say made
  • 27:16
    $1,000 yeah I mean this by the way is
  • 27:19
    bullshit since when does Facebook have a
  • 27:23
    monetization scheme I never heard of
  • 27:26
    such a thing he got $1,000 from Facebook
  • 27:29
    I don't think they do that no I think
  • 27:30
    what what the guy did is he has his own
  • 27:33
    websites and that's where they found him
  • 27:35
    he just has his name on those websites
  • 27:37
    and these little ways Kevin pulses
  • 27:39
    wasting his time doing this who's that
  • 27:42
    who cares who this guy is just something
  • 27:45
    floating out there hey man hey man you
  • 27:49
    can't the point where they got attract a
  • 27:52
    guy down like a dog well a reminder a
  • 27:55
    reminder is that the president tweeted
  • 27:57
    out a video showing Nancy Pelosi's
  • 28:00
    incompetence in verbal communication and
  • 28:02
    it was very evident and it's it was kind
  • 28:05
    of saddening and ageist for sure
  • 28:08
    although I guess Trump can do it and to
  • 28:12
    cover that up this it's almost like the
  • 28:16
    I'd like Benghazi it was a video a movie
  • 28:21
    on the internet that they were all upset
  • 28:23
    about that's why they went in there and
  • 28:25
    killed everybody it was it was an
  • 28:27
    anti-muslim video so it's the same thing
  • 28:30
    it's like uh this is Pelosi this a hoax
  • 28:34
    hoax she's like she's drunk just to
  • 28:36
    cover up this other video they'll never
  • 28:38
    bring that one back put up a lot of
  • 28:40
    these videos on Facebook you can make a
  • 28:41
    quick buck didn't this guy say he made
  • 28:43
    $1,000 yeah I mean but look that's not
  • 28:45
    it might have been a lot of money to him
  • 28:47
    but I don't think it was a pure profit
  • 28:49
    motive I think for him it was a matter
  • 28:51
    of ideology it was there was no money
  • 29:02
    involved what are they talking about
  • 29:04
    they're just making this up it's very
  • 29:07
    annoying part of that clip is that
  • 29:10
    little section right there and that
  • 29:12
    means we paid him a thousand dollars
  • 29:14
    what I may have been a lot of money to
  • 29:15
    him but what are you gonna say bill well
  • 29:16
    I don't know Jim what do you think I
  • 29:18
    think this comes from inherent disgust
  • 29:21
    anger and jealousy from the news media
  • 29:23
    who feel that these people are in their
  • 29:27
    Lane because if you distribute something
  • 29:31
    that is that they call news even though
  • 29:33
    hoax of course can be news and you can
  • 29:35
    bro and you get paid for it they hate
  • 29:38
    that I think anyone they make money
  • 29:40
    these people but I think any one of them
  • 29:42
    be like shit I'd like a thousand dollars
  • 29:44
    for posting something I think it's just
  • 29:46
    good just envy and could be yeah but
  • 29:52
    it's wrong you could say that about
  • 29:56
    everything we do on this show it might
  • 29:58
    have been a lot of money to him but I
  • 29:59
    don't think it was a pure profit motive
  • 30:01
    I think for him it was a matter of
  • 30:03
    ideology it was you know he's a big
  • 30:05
    Trump supporter and you know one of the
  • 30:07
    most interesting things about this story
  • 30:09
    to me was that you know you don't need
  • 30:11
    some sophisticated operation in order to
  • 30:15
    publish fake news or publisher hoaxes
  • 30:17
    that'll grab the country's attention
  • 30:20
    don't take a Russian bot farm it's just
  • 30:21
    one person with video editing software
  • 30:23
    tricking people yeah exact
  • 30:25
    with a vault key to the story and the
  • 30:27
    reason and the people saying that you
  • 30:28
    shouldn't have named him actually I kind
  • 30:30
    of take it she was freaking people who
  • 30:33
    is tricked by this she's drunk nobody
  • 30:40
    bought this this is the disdain they
  • 30:44
    have for their viewers man they must
  • 30:47
    think their viewers are morons yeah yeah
  • 30:50
    because they got tricked man to think
  • 30:53
    applause she was drunk when it was my
  • 30:58
    doing here I go rushing back shot on
  • 31:02
    just one person with video editing
  • 31:04
    software tricking people yeah exactly
  • 31:06
    and I thought that was the real key to
  • 31:07
    the story and the reason the people
  • 31:09
    saying that you shouldn't have named him
  • 31:10
    because it's a private key to the story
  • 31:17
    let's hear together yeah exactly and I
  • 31:19
    thought that was the real key to the
  • 31:20
    story in the way let's go back what was
  • 31:22
    the key to the story which are hoaxes
  • 31:23
    they'll grab the country's attention
  • 31:26
    take a Russian bot form it's just one
  • 31:28
    person with video editing software
  • 31:29
    tricking people yeah exactly and I
  • 31:32
    thought that was the real key to the
  • 31:33
    screen I see okay
  • 31:35
    yes it's it's thank God we're here thank
  • 31:40
    God brian Stelter CNN and The Daily
  • 31:43
    Beast are here because these days just
  • 31:46
    one guy in his basement scratching his
  • 31:49
    hairy balls can make a hoax that could
  • 31:53
    unsettle the world that's talking about
  • 31:56
    right you think that's what they're
  • 31:57
    thinking yeah it's pretty close to it
  • 32:00
    the people saying that you shouldn't
  • 32:02
    have named him because it's a private
  • 32:03
    citizen I'm seeing a lot of people on
  • 32:05
    Twitter saying you all were
  • 32:05
    irresponsible for outing him yeah I
  • 32:08
    don't think that's accurate first of all
  • 32:09
    I think he outed himself you know by
  • 32:11
    attaching his name to several fake news
  • 32:14
    sites that then push the video okay and
  • 32:16
    then he spoke to our reporter at length
  • 32:18
    and on the record for an hour and a half
  • 32:21
    and then we also withheld some
  • 32:23
    information that he didn't that he
  • 32:24
    didn't want out there that he felt would
  • 32:27
    impinge ins privacy so I
  • 32:31
    I'm glad that these people but I think
  • 32:36
    our actions in this case were we're
  • 32:38
    right on the money and I need to call
  • 32:41
    out Fox and Friends if not and Tucker
  • 32:43
    and anyone else on Fox who talked about
  • 32:45
    it as a bunch of bigoted racist you all
  • 32:48
    went into the it was an African American
  • 32:51
    man who was just posing video you racist
  • 32:57
    douchebags douche bags then yeah its job
  • 33:03
    my goodness I gotta tell you these
  • 33:08
    stories you led with you but this is the
  • 33:10
    problem I'm telling you right now unhook
  • 33:13
    this MSNBC feed right now as far as we
  • 33:18
    know what are you talking about this is
  • 33:20
    great this is what I bring to the show
  • 33:22
    this is my contribution this is the the
  • 33:25
    pain I go through all day hooked in
  • 33:27
    literally jacked into the matrix of
  • 33:29
    MSNBC I'm jacked into the MSNBC's man
  • 33:35
    but let's just stay on the racism tip
  • 33:37
    for one second Axios which is I think
  • 33:41
    it's isn't an NBC own property or joint
  • 33:45
    venture with a bunch of people but one
  • 33:46
    of the lead investors is mrs. yes jobs
  • 33:50
    Lauren Lauren what's her name
  • 33:53
    Lauren Cowell Lauren I hate Trump jobs
  • 33:56
    right so they have a part of their
  • 34:00
    coverage airs on HBO in some kind of
  • 34:03
    partnership and they interviewed Jared
  • 34:07
    Kushner who it's just not a dynamic
  • 34:10
    guided talk to period and then they
  • 34:13
    hound it oh she's a hound in which I
  • 34:16
    thought was pretty funny
  • 34:17
    Alexandra Ocasio Cortez she calls she
  • 34:21
    has called president Trump's a racist
  • 34:23
    have seen him say or do anything that
  • 34:27
    you would describe as racist or bigoted
  • 34:29
    so for the answer is no apps
  • 34:33
    you can't not be a racist for 69 years
  • 34:36
    then run for president be a racist and
  • 34:38
    what I'll say is that when a lot of the
  • 34:39
    Democrats call the president a racist I
  • 34:41
    think they're doing a disservice to
  • 34:44
    people who suffer because of real racism
  • 34:46
    in this country whose birtherism racist
  • 34:50
    look I wasn't really involved was it
  • 34:54
    racist like I said I wasn't you sorry
  • 34:58
    I'm sorry that's not what I don't know
  • 35:00
    what I missed what he's referring to
  • 35:02
    Oh so first he said no he says easy
  • 35:04
    racist and they said how about
  • 35:05
    birtherism is birtherism racist which I
  • 35:08
    would answer in a very I would answer
  • 35:09
    the question but Kushner can't even
  • 35:12
    answer it no it's not but that's not
  • 35:15
    what he say about Ted Cruz service to
  • 35:19
    people who suffer because of real racism
  • 35:21
    in this country whose birtherism racist
  • 35:24
    um look I wasn't really involved in that
  • 35:27
    I know you would mm-hmm was it racist
  • 35:30
    like I said I wasn't involved in that I
  • 35:33
    know you would mm-hmm was it racist um
  • 35:36
    look I know who the president is and I
  • 35:38
    have not seen anything in him that is
  • 35:40
    racist so again I was not involved in
  • 35:42
    that did you wish he didn't do that like
  • 35:45
    I said I was talking about than that
  • 35:46
    that was a long time all right
  • 35:47
    Kushner needs some media training cuz
  • 35:49
    that was a fail that was it out of that
  • 35:55
    solid F but I bring this up because I
  • 35:58
    had my hair cut the other day before you
  • 36:01
    bring it the haircut I want to hear
  • 36:03
    about your haircut cuz everybody does I
  • 36:05
    know worse cuz your hair what else
  • 36:07
    what alternative answers could have
  • 36:10
    Kershner possibly given to dissuade this
  • 36:13
    idiot from going on and asked to the
  • 36:15
    question three times okay let's give
  • 36:16
    some advice here's one ask Hillary perf
  • 36:23
    that
  • 36:24
    I had about three or four different ways
  • 36:25
    of going with this that were all ways of
  • 36:29
    pushing you know like combating like
  • 36:31
    sword fighting mm-hmm but that is the
  • 36:35
    only that is that is the answer because
  • 36:38
    it was the Clinton campaign that started
  • 36:41
    this in 2008 yeah with Obama and then
  • 36:45
    you should then right then after you say
  • 36:47
    that you know then you you asked the
  • 36:49
    reporter so is she a racist yes exactly
  • 36:53
    did you ad and have you ever asked her
  • 36:54
    if she's a racist and do you think she
  • 36:57
    is yeah but back on the guy no coasters
  • 37:01
    are we this guy his face would melt off
  • 37:05
    if he said that they can't do that
  • 37:06
    there's no way so this came up while I
  • 37:11
    was having my hair cut with my lovely
  • 37:12
    hairdresser and she she does not like
  • 37:18
    the president and and we're very clear
  • 37:21
    on where we stand and we but we like and
  • 37:23
    respect each other and so bursaries and
  • 37:25
    birtherism came up birth arisen and
  • 37:27
    usually we don't talk about this stuff I
  • 37:28
    can't remember why it happened but and I
  • 37:31
    said well birtherism yeah if you have
  • 37:34
    there was definite question and Trump
  • 37:36
    was a total douche and was out there
  • 37:37
    yelling and running around and but he
  • 37:39
    wasn't a politician he can do whatever
  • 37:41
    he want then I'm seeing politicians
  • 37:43
    doing this crazy shit now he said yeah
  • 37:45
    but it was racist and so you show me how
  • 37:46
    birtherism was racist just because the
  • 37:50
    guy was black it was racist is that it
  • 37:52
    well I saw the Ken's Burns documentary
  • 37:54
    about the Central Park jogger and the
  • 37:57
    Central Park five and clearly Trump is a
  • 38:00
    huge racist and I had to refresh my
  • 38:03
    memory because I was living in Manhattan
  • 38:05
    at the time 1987 and this is he took out
  • 38:10
    it in fact she incorrectly identified an
  • 38:12
    op-ed but he took out an ad that said
  • 38:15
    bring back the death penalty what's
  • 38:16
    happening to our city where are the cops
  • 38:18
    that's basically what it was and just to
  • 38:22
    because you know people say this was
  • 38:24
    incredibly racist he targeted these kids
  • 38:26
    I was there when this happened 1987
  • 38:28
    Times Square was sex and drugs no rock
  • 38:31
    and roll it was seedy it was nasty I
  • 38:34
    lived in Hell's Kitchen it was a dirty
  • 38:35
    ass place we had squeegee
  • 38:37
    at the time it was just the whole thing
  • 38:39
    was a mess and then there was like 50
  • 38:42
    kids rook young people running
  • 38:45
    throughout Central Park beatin people up
  • 38:47
    doing all kinds of crazy stuff and then
  • 38:49
    one jogger really female jogger really
  • 38:51
    got molested and was severely hurt and
  • 38:54
    they arrested five guys and then you
  • 38:57
    know then it goes into that they they
  • 38:59
    confessed and they were and to juries
  • 39:02
    indicted them but then sometime later
  • 39:05
    some other guy comes out and says it was
  • 39:07
    me and his DNA matched and somehow Trump
  • 39:09
    in all this was racist where the whole
  • 39:11
    city was literally saying kill fuckers
  • 39:14
    whoever it is kill him where's the cops
  • 39:16
    this is crazy the city's going down the
  • 39:19
    tubes but this is now been a turn into a
  • 39:22
    Ken Burns documentary to prove Trump is
  • 39:25
    a racist where's all the stories that
  • 39:28
    agree with Kushner on that where's all
  • 39:30
    the stories from before that I was in
  • 39:31
    New York he was the hero granted
  • 39:34
    laughingly hip-hoppers had him in all
  • 39:37
    his videos the lyrics everyone Trump is
  • 39:39
    the Trump come on we love him never
  • 39:42
    heard anything about racism
  • 39:43
    plays a misogynist you got to give me
  • 39:45
    that anyway I stopped good because my
  • 39:52
    hair looks pretty good now so I didn't
  • 39:53
    want you know it's when someone has
  • 39:55
    sharp object near your head you've got
  • 39:57
    to be careful what you're talking about
  • 39:59
    very very my she almost sniped my
  • 40:04
    hearing aid wire the other day no that
  • 40:08
    would have been costly no no no no this
  • 40:11
    just those are easy to replace
  • 40:16
    anyway all right well I think we've
  • 40:18
    solved the world's problems yeah I think
  • 40:20
    we're good to good to go continue to
  • 40:25
    promote the fact that everyone's full of
  • 40:27
    crap I got a full of crap clip I was
  • 40:30
    going through some old clips oh I'm
  • 40:33
    ready for Trump in the UK you want to go
  • 40:34
    back in time I don't want to go back in
  • 40:37
    time I just well if you a new company
  • 40:39
    you can do this later it's very funny I
  • 40:42
    got a couple of UK clips but go on you
  • 40:45
    no no no you lead into it I have stuff
  • 40:47
    but a
  • 40:48
    I'm passing like we start with Trump in
  • 40:51
    the UK and then he goes to Ireland this
  • 40:53
    is a very this is a 122 week week report
  • 40:57
    from the from PBS which is kind of a
  • 41:00
    background err I'm looking for your
  • 41:03
    feeling you K trumping UK oh one no oh
  • 41:08
    no she says trumping UK then Ireland I'm
  • 41:10
    sorry I got it a d-day commemoration
  • 41:13
    with President Trump and other world
  • 41:14
    leaders today in Portsmouth England they
  • 41:17
    gathered to mark the legendary invasion
  • 41:18
    in the beginning of the liberation of
  • 41:20
    Europe it was here the Allied forces
  • 41:22
    boarded landing craft to storm the I
  • 41:26
    want to start that clip over and I want
  • 41:29
    to I want to ask you this is yummy yummy
  • 41:33
    Sh else endure mm-hmm the TBS a woman
  • 41:37
    who were replacements
  • 41:38
    Gwyn's replacement yes and I would ask
  • 41:40
    you do you think this sounds like a high
  • 41:42
    school or in front of her class just so
  • 41:45
    interesting you were I was about to say
  • 41:47
    it sounds like a college TV broadcast
  • 41:52
    that the kids put together themselves
  • 41:53
    you know okay will you give her that
  • 41:57
    much okay we're still at high school
  • 42:00
    with President Trump and other world
  • 42:03
    leaders it's also the audio the audio
  • 42:04
    does not sound professional and that
  • 42:06
    always gives it kind of that you know
  • 42:09
    that kind of jerky high school vibe
  • 42:11
    today in Portsmouth England they
  • 42:13
    gathered to mark the legendary invasion
  • 42:14
    in the beginning of the liberation of
  • 42:16
    Europe it was here that Allied forces
  • 42:19
    boarded landing craft to storm the
  • 42:20
    beaches of Normandy and fight the Nazis
  • 42:22
    the president along with members of the
  • 42:25
    British royal family spent time greeting
  • 42:26
    d-day veterans mr. Trump had this to say
  • 42:29
    of Queen Elizabeth woman
  • 42:33
    he then flew briefly to Ireland to meet
  • 42:35
    with Irish Prime Minister Lee over at
  • 42:37
    Kirk the president said he was
  • 42:39
    optimistic that the UK could work out
  • 42:41
    one of its biggest brexit challenges the
  • 42:43
    question is whether for rockers Republic
  • 42:45
    of Ireland can work out a border deal
  • 42:47
    with Northern Ireland which is part of
  • 42:48
    the UK neither country wants to
  • 42:50
    reinstate a hard border before he left
  • 42:58
    London mr. Trump sat down with British
  • 43:00
    journalist Piers Morgan Morgan question
  • 43:02
    the president about whether he wished he
  • 43:04
    had served in the Vietnam War the
  • 43:06
    president received five deferments from
  • 43:08
    the draft one was for having bone spurs
  • 43:10
    the other four were for education I
  • 43:12
    thought it was a terrible war I thought
  • 43:14
    it was very far away
  • 43:15
    nobody ever you know you're talking
  • 43:17
    about Vietnam and at that time nobody
  • 43:19
    ever heard of the country this isn't
  • 43:21
    like I'm fighting against Nazi Germany
  • 43:23
    I'm fighting it were fighting against
  • 43:25
    Hitler I would have been honored but I
  • 43:28
    think I make up word right now that's
  • 43:30
    all they took from the Piers Morgan
  • 43:32
    interview yeah that piece well I think
  • 43:36
    they may take another small chunk but it
  • 43:38
    wasn't very good what the interview no I
  • 43:41
    wasn't very good the report and it's not
  • 43:44
    that good and I want to point something
  • 43:46
    out that when PBS newshour began with
  • 43:49
    McNeal and layer it started with two
  • 43:52
    extremely polished professionals major
  • 43:55
    Network broadcasters who decided they
  • 43:58
    had enough with a half-hour nightly news
  • 44:01
    and they wanted to do something for a
  • 44:02
    whole hour and so they went to PBS and
  • 44:06
    they decide they said look we want to do
  • 44:09
    something slick professional whole hour
  • 44:11
    we want to do something good and since
  • 44:13
    then it's just been bringing people that
  • 44:16
    are rank amateurs yeah into the fold and
  • 44:20
    with all their bigotry and prejudices
  • 44:22
    and I would now I'm now including Judy
  • 44:24
    in that and just running with it where's
  • 44:27
    where's all the superstars slick
  • 44:29
    professionals that that the were that
  • 44:31
    did what was the original idea of the
  • 44:33
    PBS Newshour now it's amateur hour but
  • 44:35
    they just caught the PBS amateur hour
  • 44:38
    and we should have the sand we should
  • 44:40
    have the sand man get a what's a yummy
  • 44:46
    dead
  • 44:46
    today a few go I like the the morning
  • 44:52
    shows here the way they categorized what
  • 44:54
    was going on the most important
  • 44:55
    highlights gets not that much different
  • 44:57
    from the news hour
  • 44:58
    they although I would have and I have a
  • 45:01
    piece of the the Piers Morgan interview
  • 45:02
    which is not too bad but here's Good
  • 45:04
    Morning America quick clip of just them
  • 45:06
    promoting the trip as we've seen
  • 45:07
    President Trump's visit is sparking
  • 45:09
    protests also in the UK our senior
  • 45:11
    foreign correspondent Ian panel is in
  • 45:13
    London with more on all that good
  • 45:15
    morning yen yeah good morning Robin from
  • 45:17
    the famous Trafalgar Square the statue
  • 45:19
    Nelson's column is right behind me for
  • 45:22
    the reason we're here today is because
  • 45:23
    of the people out here thousands tens of
  • 45:26
    thousands possibly even hundreds of
  • 45:27
    thousands are expected to gather here to
  • 45:29
    expect it today and not against America
  • 45:32
    they are against the president and the
  • 45:34
    official visit here to the UK they're
  • 45:36
    against the man the policies the words
  • 45:38
    the deeds and that is one of the last we
  • 45:41
    can see it in all the placards that
  • 45:42
    around here yes all the placards bad-guy
  • 45:45
    on I want I want to talk about the
  • 45:48
    placards the placards this was very
  • 45:51
    disappointing as well here in the next
  • 45:52
    clip it wasn't the hundreds of thousands
  • 45:54
    of people they wanted in fact I'll play
  • 45:56
    the CBS this morning clip and then I'll
  • 45:58
    tell you about the placards called mr.
  • 46:01
    Trump a poster boy for the far-right
  • 46:04
    movement around the world the president
  • 46:06
    called Khan a stone-cold loser yesterday
  • 46:08
    Paula Reid is outside 10 Downing Street
  • 46:11
    where the President and they are meeting
  • 46:13
    Paula we expected to hear more from the
  • 46:15
    president's opponents that's right Tony
  • 46:17
    even when visiting one of our closest
  • 46:19
    allies the president still manages to
  • 46:21
    find adversaries and those protests that
  • 46:23
    you mentioned are happening just a short
  • 46:25
    distance from here at 10 Downing Street
  • 46:26
    Tony we can actually hear several
  • 46:28
    thousand protesters demonstrating not
  • 46:30
    far from here but we're told it's a
  • 46:32
    considerably smaller group than what was
  • 46:34
    expected
  • 46:35
    among those protesters is opposition
  • 46:37
    leader Jeremy Corbyn he boycotted last
  • 46:40
    night state banquets but he's expected
  • 46:42
    to address the demonstrations now one
  • 46:45
    groups is employing a large balloon
  • 46:47
    depicting President Trump as a giant
  • 46:49
    orange baby in a diaper clutching an
  • 46:52
    iPhone the organizer says the balloon is
  • 46:54
    meant to send a message to President
  • 46:56
    Trump that he is not welcome here
  • 46:58
    couple things balloons not new it's also
  • 47:02
    not not only is it not new who says it's
  • 47:04
    an iPhone look to you look to me like an
  • 47:08
    Android phone right look to me more like
  • 47:11
    like an Android phone I don't think it
  • 47:13
    was a knife Android Apple but that blue
  • 47:17
    is not new and then of course nobody
  • 47:19
    reported I only saw this on the Sun Hat
  • 47:21
    and they had the woman and I had a clip
  • 47:23
    it was a video of her they showed the
  • 47:25
    whole thing some woman a trump supporter
  • 47:28
    a British Trump supporter came and took
  • 47:30
    a pair of scissors and popped the
  • 47:31
    balloon the big giant one yeah excellent
  • 47:34
    balloon deflating and they all got bent
  • 47:37
    out of shape about it and they arrested
  • 47:40
    the woman the police officer she made a
  • 47:43
    big scene cuz she had her phone running
  • 47:45
    it about movie so the movie was put on
  • 47:46
    the Sun the sun's website the complete
  • 47:51
    thing nobody reported on the popping of
  • 47:54
    the balloon on the major networks and I
  • 47:56
    thought was the most interesting thing
  • 47:57
    that took place well the the
  • 48:02
    organization behind this I would say
  • 48:05
    failed protests because they could not
  • 48:08
    show the numbers they were talking big
  • 48:11
    numbers but it didn't show up was
  • 48:12
    stopped the war coalition all the
  • 48:16
    placards that's British for signs which
  • 48:20
    were professionally created it had a
  • 48:22
    little URL in the bottom corner and it
  • 48:25
    was stop war or Guk and who is the
  • 48:30
    president I was I was very surprised I
  • 48:32
    didn't know that we had a new Bob Geldof
  • 48:34
    standing up but we do
  • 48:36
    the president of Stop the War Coalition
  • 48:39
    is Brian Eno oh really yeah huh I mean
  • 48:45
    yeah Brian you know if for those who
  • 48:47
    don't know Roxy Music how she produced
  • 48:51
    so much Bowie he produced Talking Heads
  • 48:54
    yeah major produced oh my god I mean but
  • 48:58
    I'd say Roxy Music is what I think he's
  • 49:01
    his some of his best work was but he's
  • 49:03
    worked with everybody and he's not the
  • 49:07
    president and I'm all for stopping war
  • 49:09
    but come on and also you know this was a
  • 49:16
    they lead up to celebrating
  • 49:19
    commemorating with our British allies
  • 49:22
    and okay we'll add the French for the
  • 49:27
    75th anniversary of d-day there was
  • 49:31
    there was a whole bunch of stuff going
  • 49:32
    on and was a lot of lot more than just
  • 49:34
    my Irish guy and this will probably lead
  • 49:40
    into some of your clips Sadiq Khan the
  • 49:42
    mayor of London I got that you got the
  • 49:45
    full video no I don't have the full who
  • 49:47
    I have a couple of things but I wanted
  • 49:49
    to I have to Isis that I I kind of I
  • 49:53
    started noticing some trends and I do
  • 49:55
    have a thesis that I'll bring up at the
  • 49:57
    end of this okay why don't why don't I
  • 50:00
    play the full clip and then you go into
  • 50:01
    your whole thesis the full clip we'll do
  • 50:04
    it later
  • 50:04
    okay so this video and it was very odd
  • 50:06
    it's Sadiq Khan the Mayor of London
  • 50:09
    talking really about our country and
  • 50:13
    what's going on here and and blaming all
  • 50:16
    of it on Trump I guess but he did it in
  • 50:19
    collaboration with Elle UK the magazine
  • 50:22
    Elle and he starts off with if it's a
  • 50:25
    big L logo I don't understand how that
  • 50:28
    works in the UK and I thought I would
  • 50:30
    have having lived there but you just
  • 50:32
    collaborate with magazines now is to
  • 50:34
    just to slam people and I'm not sure why
  • 50:37
    he did that but here it is
  • 50:41
    president Trump if you're watching this
  • 50:44
    your values and what you stand for are
  • 50:46
    the complete opposite of London's values
  • 50:49
    and the values in this country we think
  • 50:51
    diversity is not a weakness diversity is
  • 50:53
    a strength we respect women when we
  • 50:55
    think they're equal to men with it's
  • 50:57
    important to safeguard the rights of all
  • 50:59
    of us particularly vulnerable and
  • 51:01
    marginalized but not a president of the
  • 51:03
    u.s. say you have a massive leadership
  • 51:05
    problem you're a massive platform as
  • 51:07
    well people follow what you do what
  • 51:08
    you've seen over the last few years in
  • 51:10
    the USA is a rolling back or much of the
  • 51:11
    progress made in previous decades it's
  • 51:14
    really important we continue to move
  • 51:15
    forward what is seen in the USA is a
  • 51:18
    rolling back of the reproductive rights
  • 51:20
    of women in a situation now where some
  • 51:23
    states in the USA are making it almost
  • 51:25
    impossible if we're gonna have the
  • 51:27
    rights to have an abortion
  • 51:28
    one it has to look at the history books
  • 51:30
    to realize the consequences our women
  • 51:32
    are having the right to choose over
  • 51:33
    their own body what we can't afford to
  • 51:35
    do is return to backstreet abortions we
  • 51:37
    can't look forward to sees return to the
  • 51:39
    situation in yesterday Cades we had
  • 51:41
    women have no control over their bodies
  • 51:43
    it's really important we support women
  • 51:45
    in the USA the fight for gender equality
  • 51:47
    shouldn't just be fight for women and
  • 51:50
    girls all of us should be feminists and
  • 51:52
    that means men and boys too there was
  • 51:55
    lolis Society the Nobel Prize winner who
  • 51:57
    said how can all of us benefit when half
  • 52:00
    of us are held back that's why isn't
  • 52:02
    all-around fest to be feminist if you
  • 52:04
    believe that it's wrong to diss gender
  • 52:06
    inequality if he believes wrong that
  • 52:08
    women earn less than men if he believed
  • 52:10
    us wrong that we've been installed as
  • 52:11
    women against in 2019 you're a feminist
  • 52:16
    now I don't know why they use this
  • 52:21
    particular music track and why lu k
  • 52:25
    doesn't have anyone with ears attached
  • 52:26
    to the side of the head to hear that you
  • 52:28
    can barely hear the guy the dynamics are
  • 52:30
    off and i have to say though if this
  • 52:34
    politician thing doesn't work out you
  • 52:36
    got a career in broadcasting you really
  • 52:38
    punch it there so that you really got
  • 52:39
    some dynamic range you wanker there you
  • 52:44
    are being now I want to mention this
  • 52:45
    week I know I was I was being very
  • 52:48
    sarcastic you're right I agree so all he
  • 52:54
    talked about was what we're doing wrong
  • 52:56
    and as if the as if the state's
  • 53:02
    determining what they want to do and the
  • 53:04
    legal parameters around that and yeah
  • 53:06
    there's all kinds of issues let's look
  • 53:09
    at your own shit man people are getting
  • 53:10
    knifed well that's kind of where Trump
  • 53:15
    went with in the presser okay which is
  • 53:20
    AD warden I don't remember ever using
  • 53:22
    before but they're using it all the time
  • 53:23
    now
  • 53:24
    meaning press conference the presser and
  • 53:27
    the UK when it was up there with the
  • 53:28
    Teresa main I want to play that part
  • 53:30
    which hooks right into this con thing
  • 53:33
    okay which one is her on Con
  • 53:35
    I don't know Jeremy Corbyn never much
  • 53:38
    what is that what does that with one
  • 53:40
    your plane well from presser UK uncon
  • 53:43
    and I'll explain why you're confused
  • 53:45
    because the question actually was about
  • 53:48
    Jeremy Corbyn but he took it about how
  • 53:52
    the question went but I thought that's
  • 53:56
    not the way I thought I clipped it maybe
  • 53:59
    Trump presser UK one would that be the
  • 54:02
    one you want uh while we play that first
  • 54:06
    because it all relate to this my theme
  • 54:08
    I don't know Jeremy Corbyn I said I
  • 54:11
    don't know they are they're both exactly
  • 54:12
    the same what is this not yes yeah I
  • 54:17
    hate to say it bro but you have two
  • 54:20
    clips labeled different oh no here we go
  • 54:22
    a d-day commemoration with nope that's
  • 54:24
    not it
  • 54:25
    here Trump presser UK on comms theme um
  • 54:28
    for you
  • 54:29
    Trampas you hold tools with the current
  • 54:32
    Prime Minister the leader of Her
  • 54:33
    Majesty's opposition has been addressed
  • 54:36
    in a protest rally against your visit in
  • 54:39
    Trafalgar Square
  • 54:40
    he says he's disappointed you attacked
  • 54:42
    the London mayor and he criticized your
  • 54:44
    record on refugees what do you have to
  • 54:48
    say to him and is this man someone you
  • 54:50
    could do a trade deal with and to you
  • 54:53
    Prime Minister do you think that Sadiq
  • 54:56
    Khan is a stone-cold loser you're
  • 54:58
    talking about the Mayor of London
  • 55:00
    I said who you said yes well I think
  • 55:02
    he's been a not very good mayor from
  • 55:05
    what I understand he's done a poor job
  • 55:07
    crime is up a lot of problems and I
  • 55:10
    don't think he should be criticizing a
  • 55:12
    representative of the United States that
  • 55:14
    can do so much good for the United
  • 55:17
    Kingdom we talked about it before he
  • 55:20
    should be positive not negative he's a
  • 55:21
    negative force not a positive force and
  • 55:24
    if you look at what he said he hurts the
  • 55:26
    people of this great country and I think
  • 55:29
    he should actually focus on his job it'd
  • 55:31
    be a lot better if he did that he could
  • 55:33
    straighten out some of the problems that
  • 55:35
    he has and probably some of the problems
  • 55:37
    that he's caused you know I thought that
  • 55:41
    was very good I felt something in there
  • 55:43
    that got caught as I heard it again okay
  • 55:46
    when he talks about Corbin all right
  • 55:48
    now play now play press UK one I don't
  • 55:54
    know Jeremy Corbyn never met him never
  • 55:57
    spoke to him he wanted to meet today or
  • 56:00
    tomorrow and I decided that I would not
  • 56:02
    do that I think that he is from where I
  • 56:06
    come from somewhat of a negative force I
  • 56:10
    think that the people should look to do
  • 56:13
    things correctly as opposed to criticize
  • 56:15
    I really don't like critics as much as I
  • 56:18
    like and respect people that get things
  • 56:20
    done so I've decided not to meet as far
  • 56:24
    as the protests I have to tell you
  • 56:25
    because I commented on it yesterday we
  • 56:28
    left the prime minister the Queen the
  • 56:31
    royal family there were thousands of
  • 56:33
    people on the streets cheering and even
  • 56:36
    coming over today there were thousands
  • 56:38
    of people cheering and then I heard that
  • 56:40
    there were protests I said where are the
  • 56:42
    pro
  • 56:42
    I don't see any protests I did see a
  • 56:44
    small protest today when I came very
  • 56:46
    small so a lot of it is fake news I hate
  • 56:49
    to say but you saw the the people waving
  • 56:51
    the American flag waving your flag it
  • 56:54
    was tremendous spirit and love
  • 56:56
    there was great love it was an alliance
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    and I didn't see the protesters or till
  • 57:01
    just a little while ago and it was a
  • 57:02
    very very small group of people
  • 57:06
    now a couple things one I only picked up
  • 57:08
    on this theme after I put developed both
  • 57:11
    these clips but there was an element in
  • 57:13
    here that I thought was worth noting
  • 57:16
    which is did anyone ever show us
  • 57:17
    anything that works show us any of these
  • 57:19
    guys waving the American and British
  • 57:21
    flags no Trump came in all I saw was the
  • 57:24
    protest stuff I saw some YouTube clips
  • 57:26
    but even then I wasn't quite sure when
  • 57:28
    it when it was shy you just don't know
  • 57:30
    anymore
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    yeah like misleading on the part of the
  • 57:35
    media and they never again they didn't
  • 57:37
    show the Trump blimp getting deflated
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    which I still think was the big race I
  • 57:41
    spotted but I spot about these two
  • 57:43
    eclipses I believe this is deliberate
  • 57:45
    and I think is gonna be a theme in
  • 57:47
    future Trump discussions because it
  • 57:50
    brings in kind of New Age touchy-feely
  • 57:52
    crap which is he's a negative force he
  • 57:56
    said it about Sadiq Khan yes and he then
  • 57:58
    he said it about Korbin actually the
  • 58:00
    other one I think the other way around
  • 58:01
    but he said it about both of them and
  • 58:03
    it's like he's negative force it's a
  • 58:05
    negative force you're gonna start
  • 58:06
    hearing this a lot from Trump because I
  • 58:08
    said I think you can go some players
  • 58:10
    play swift it off the guys negative and
  • 58:12
    he goes on and makes it he says I hate
  • 58:14
    critics even though he's a critic I like
  • 58:17
    people to get things done
  • 58:18
    he's a negative force a negative force I
  • 58:21
    I think I think you're right I think
  • 58:24
    it's the beginning of something you know
  • 58:26
    just one little interdiction yeah I
  • 58:30
    don't have any clips but it appears to
  • 58:32
    me and maybe some of our British
  • 58:34
    producers can let us know that the
  • 58:35
    British press somehow had riled
  • 58:38
    everybody up interfering that into being
  • 58:42
    afraid of into fearing that Trump in
  • 58:46
    conversation with Maher Bojo whoever
  • 58:50
    else Gould would say you know what yeah
  • 58:54
    we're gonna do a trade deal but we're
  • 58:55
    gonna screw your national health system
  • 58:57
    to everyone all I was reading a lot of
  • 59:00
    office and NHS on the table NHS on the
  • 59:02
    table like what are you talking about
  • 59:05
    did you see they explained I heard him
  • 59:08
    say it yeah but what what does it what
  • 59:10
    were they afraid of what had they been
  • 59:11
    riled up about yeah
  • 59:13
    they're full of crap because what it was
  • 59:14
    was a misunderstanding on Trump's part
  • 59:17
    which is not
  • 59:17
    unusual I think we got to get used to
  • 59:19
    this and they said what do you think
  • 59:21
    you're some guy asked them some
  • 59:23
    boneheaded questions and nothing to do
  • 59:25
    with anything what about the trade talks
  • 59:26
    what's on the table what are you gonna
  • 59:28
    do what is everything on the tables NHS
  • 59:30
    on the table like that just lift it in
  • 59:32
    its Trump said yeah everything's on the
  • 59:35
    table you know what's crazy the NHS was
  • 59:38
    used to get people to vote for brexit
  • 59:42
    the exact opposite yeah was it oh well
  • 59:45
    people are gonna overflow no and then
  • 59:50
    they took the story and they ran with it
  • 59:51
    even though Trump later said I don't
  • 59:53
    really want to deal with the anti-itch I
  • 59:55
    got nothing to do with it it's your
  • 59:57
    medical system how's that what is he
  • 59:59
    says what does that got to do a trade
  • 1:00:02
    and which is right what has had to do a
  • 1:00:05
    trade nothing and so but meanwhile the
  • 1:00:08
    British press oh he's gonna steal our
  • 1:00:10
    NHS he's gonna take our baby budget
  • 1:00:18
    analysis is this these press Kaiser yeah
  • 1:00:20
    they're very they're disappointing I
  • 1:00:22
    have couple of clips one with a nice so
  • 1:00:25
    that I think is a winner
  • 1:00:26
    alright here's here's the classic though
  • 1:00:29
    so now I don't know if this is the
  • 1:00:30
    British reporter an American but this is
  • 1:00:32
    the reporter screeching at Trump nine
  • 1:00:35
    second clip that I just think is a gem
  • 1:00:44
    didn't find it now it was it was played
  • 1:00:48
    only one channel for some reason you
  • 1:00:49
    didn't hear it back it was the camera
  • 1:00:51
    clicking yeah yeah you I don't know why
  • 1:00:55
    but for some reason only one channel
  • 1:00:56
    came through and you didn't hear it I
  • 1:00:58
    didn't hear it no I know you didn't hear
  • 1:01:00
    it you won't hear it either because it's
  • 1:01:01
    one channel I don't know why oh I see
  • 1:01:03
    okay sorry just a bunch of clicking this
  • 1:01:05
    somebody yells about you know does one
  • 1:01:07
    of those any collusion yeah it was
  • 1:01:10
    totally in any collusion thing fix it
  • 1:01:13
    for you and then there's this one which
  • 1:01:15
    is the sadaqa Sadiq Khan loser I so
  • 1:01:18
    Sadiq Khan is a stone-cold loser that
  • 1:01:24
    was a question right it was the question
  • 1:01:26
    yeah I like better but I'm sorry came in
  • 1:01:31
    mono or something or one channel which
  • 1:01:33
    is also something wrong with my setup
  • 1:01:35
    somehow because it didn't go to the
  • 1:01:36
    stream either so I've got some channel
  • 1:01:38
    problems to be fixed okay don't worry
  • 1:01:42
    about regarding you can I have one other
  • 1:01:49
    observation I find it very sad that
  • 1:01:52
    because of the state of hate hmm like
  • 1:01:57
    that one the state of hate there's just
  • 1:02:00
    no real reporting and you know I come
  • 1:02:03
    from I come from the industry I come
  • 1:02:05
    from entertainment I like seeing
  • 1:02:08
    milania's outfits I also like women's
  • 1:02:10
    clothing not to wear but I like it I
  • 1:02:12
    like it on with and that's like seeing I
  • 1:02:16
    like seeing what they're dressed in and
  • 1:02:18
    she timecode and she had all this
  • 1:02:20
    beautiful she had all these beautiful
  • 1:02:22
    outfits on she had little little
  • 1:02:26
    throwbacks to lady died and she just
  • 1:02:28
    looks so stunning and good I mean she'd
  • 1:02:32
    left to get on the helicopter in DC
  • 1:02:34
    she's got a Big Ben dress on I mean it's
  • 1:02:36
    just sad for her I really have to say I
  • 1:02:39
    feel bad for her this she should be
  • 1:02:41
    Vogue Elle now we know Elle's not gonna
  • 1:02:44
    do anything they'd rather have a do
  • 1:02:46
    Sadiq on their website but man it's it's
  • 1:02:51
    it's many many years from now we will
  • 1:02:53
    talk about how incredibly stylish she
  • 1:02:56
    was and I really appreciated the detail
  • 1:02:59
    that went into her clothing and it's a
  • 1:03:01
    big deal in typically it's a big deal
  • 1:03:04
    now it's just not wet now I have one of
  • 1:03:08
    the really fine examples of like the
  • 1:03:11
    media not are being stupid I'm not sure
  • 1:03:15
    but this is this was a summary of a
  • 1:03:17
    couple of Trump things and the mistakes
  • 1:03:21
    and errors he made because they're
  • 1:03:23
    everybody wants to you know Trump's a
  • 1:03:24
    big liar sorry think it says a big lie
  • 1:03:26
    and this is Jimmy Sh again with the
  • 1:03:30
    ridiculous could apparently ridiculous
  • 1:03:32
    Trump lies the important Trump lies that
  • 1:03:35
    he made and Judy of course a major Trump
  • 1:03:38
    hater he tries to draw it out of her -
  • 1:03:41
    what kind of whore
  • 1:03:42
    lies and so we're gonna hear the
  • 1:03:45
    ridiculous Trump lies and I want you to
  • 1:03:47
    tell me how ridiculous these are and if
  • 1:03:50
    they're even lies
  • 1:03:51
    president Trump plants have spent
  • 1:03:53
    tonight in Ireland and one of his golf
  • 1:03:54
    resorts Judy Umesh high so that
  • 1:03:57
    interview he did the president did with
  • 1:04:00
    the British journalist Piers Morgan were
  • 1:04:02
    there other claims the president made
  • 1:04:04
    that are being questioned well the
  • 1:04:07
    president's had a number of things that
  • 1:04:09
    were simply not based in fact he would
  • 1:04:11
    not say that climate change is a clear
  • 1:04:13
    and present danger that of course the
  • 1:04:15
    conclusion of scientists all over the
  • 1:04:16
    country in the world as well as
  • 1:04:18
    scientists working for the Trump
  • 1:04:19
    administration he also said that he
  • 1:04:21
    talked to Prince Charles about this for
  • 1:04:23
    sometime about 90 minutes and that
  • 1:04:25
    Prince Charles stressed to him that he
  • 1:04:26
    was concerned about future generations
  • 1:04:27
    and climate change but the president
  • 1:04:29
    just simply was not convinced he also
  • 1:04:31
    said that Winston Churchill the former
  • 1:04:33
    British prime minister didn't have to
  • 1:04:35
    deal with the threat of nuclear weapons
  • 1:04:36
    that's simply not true there were Nazis
  • 1:04:38
    thinking of trying to build a nuclear
  • 1:04:40
    weapon during the time of Winston
  • 1:04:41
    Churchill so that just simply again was
  • 1:04:44
    something else that was just not based
  • 1:04:45
    in fact well I'm glad you you clip this
  • 1:04:48
    because from the Piers Morgan interview
  • 1:04:50
    which I thought was very entertaining is
  • 1:04:52
    about half an hour long the president
  • 1:04:53
    was very calm cool collected funny
  • 1:04:56
    entertaining he and peers have a good
  • 1:04:58
    rapport and and I clipped the piece
  • 1:05:01
    about Prince Charles and climate change
  • 1:05:04
    if it's okay I'll bring it in here
  • 1:05:05
    because what did she say we said that
  • 1:05:09
    the Prince tried to convince him that
  • 1:05:11
    climate change the in her let me see I
  • 1:05:15
    got it here as well as scientists
  • 1:05:17
    working for the Trump administration he
  • 1:05:19
    also said that he talked to Prince
  • 1:05:20
    Charles about this for some time about
  • 1:05:22
    90 minutes and that Prince Charles
  • 1:05:23
    stressed to him that he was concerned
  • 1:05:25
    about future generations and climate
  • 1:05:26
    change but the president just simply was
  • 1:05:28
    not convinced oh okay let's listen to
  • 1:05:31
    what he actually said well people want
  • 1:05:32
    to hear fury about climate change is
  • 1:05:34
    that you basically understand that
  • 1:05:37
    almost every scientist who looks into
  • 1:05:38
    this believes climate change is a very
  • 1:05:40
    real and present danger if we don't
  • 1:05:43
    tackle it now an America has to lead the
  • 1:05:45
    way along with China and India Derby is
  • 1:05:48
    serious trouble do you accept that
  • 1:05:50
    you know you just said it China India
  • 1:05:52
    Russia many of the nations they have not
  • 1:05:54
    very good air not very good water in the
  • 1:05:57
    sense of pollution and cleanliness if
  • 1:05:59
    you go to certain cities I'm not going
  • 1:06:01
    to name cities but I can if you go to
  • 1:06:04
    certain cities you can't even breathe
  • 1:06:05
    and now that air is going up so if we
  • 1:06:08
    have a clean in terms of a planet we're
  • 1:06:10
    talking about a very small you know for
  • 1:06:12
    a small distance between China and the
  • 1:06:14
    US or other kind of thing is mutual
  • 1:06:17
    responsibility no we in every question
  • 1:06:19
    but they don't do there is you
  • 1:06:20
    personally believe in climate change I
  • 1:06:22
    believe that there's a change in weather
  • 1:06:24
    and I think it changes both ways don't
  • 1:06:27
    forget it used to be called global
  • 1:06:28
    warming that wasn't working then it was
  • 1:06:30
    called climate change now it's actually
  • 1:06:31
    called extreme weather because with
  • 1:06:34
    extreme weather you can't miss look we
  • 1:06:35
    have a thing now in tornadoes I don't
  • 1:06:37
    remember tornadoes and the u.s. to the
  • 1:06:39
    extent but then when you look back 40
  • 1:06:42
    years ago we had the worst tornado binge
  • 1:06:44
    that we've ever had in the 1890s we had
  • 1:06:47
    our worst hurricanes and I would say
  • 1:06:49
    we've had some very bad what are you
  • 1:06:50
    able to give Prince Charles any comfort
  • 1:06:52
    that you as the United States president
  • 1:06:54
    I'll take you mister I think I was yeah
  • 1:06:56
    I think we had a great conversation and
  • 1:06:58
    it was about as you would call it
  • 1:06:59
    climate change but yeah I think we had a
  • 1:07:03
    very very good he moved you a little bit
  • 1:07:05
    I'll tell you what moved me is his
  • 1:07:08
    passion for future generations he's
  • 1:07:10
    really not doing this for him he's doing
  • 1:07:12
    this for future generations he really
  • 1:07:14
    felt and this is this is real he
  • 1:07:16
    believes that he wants to have a world
  • 1:07:18
    that's good for future generations you
  • 1:07:20
    want you know that and I do too
  • 1:07:21
    and and that really isn't he that you
  • 1:07:25
    know he's Prince Charles he doesn't have
  • 1:07:28
    to worry about future generations in
  • 1:07:29
    theory unless he's a very good person
  • 1:07:32
    who cares about people and that's what
  • 1:07:34
    impressed me maybe the most his love for
  • 1:07:37
    this world didn't quite sound the same
  • 1:07:39
    way yes she and I all she endure put it
  • 1:07:42
    together well the other thing is then
  • 1:07:45
    she goes on and drops the real gem
  • 1:07:48
    called gem which is that Trump casually
  • 1:07:52
    says well Winston Churchill didn't have
  • 1:07:54
    to worry about nuclear weapons and she
  • 1:07:56
    says oh yes he did
  • 1:07:59
    because it was a known fact that Germans
  • 1:08:01
    were working on snow but he knew what in
  • 1:08:03
    but an a-bomb was gonna do that it
  • 1:08:06
    wasn't something that Churchill was
  • 1:08:08
    fretting about Shushi kidding where's
  • 1:08:10
    the evidence of that hey by the way
  • 1:08:14
    Trump should have said instead of
  • 1:08:16
    extreme weather you should have said
  • 1:08:18
    climate crisis yeah and you know what I
  • 1:08:21
    have another I have another piece of
  • 1:08:23
    advice for the president try it again on
  • 1:08:26
    me I'll be the president you tell me now
  • 1:08:28
    do you believe in climate hey you do one
  • 1:08:30
    of those you believe in climate change
  • 1:08:32
    well let me tell you John I am a climate
  • 1:08:35
    optimist this is what he needs to start
  • 1:08:38
    doing ooh I like it yeah I heard it from
  • 1:08:42
    I think void 0 said it or tweeted or
  • 1:08:46
    something like I'm stealing that gonna
  • 1:08:51
    be fine
  • 1:08:53
    that would work yeah it would work
  • 1:08:58
    especially in we're in with the negative
  • 1:09:00
    thing these people are just negative
  • 1:09:03
    forces they think beyond serve I'm still
  • 1:09:16
    more about this Winston Churchill
  • 1:09:18
    fretting about the a-bomb when no one
  • 1:09:21
    even knew what an a-bomb would do that's
  • 1:09:25
    that is a blatant lie yeah hello
  • 1:09:29
    we miss you Gwen wherever you are they
  • 1:09:33
    do miss you miss you we miss you did I
  • 1:09:36
    have anything else about what do you
  • 1:09:39
    have anything else on Trump in the UK
  • 1:09:40
    except you have tried to fuck with Iran
  • 1:09:43
    it was a PBS little mention I thought
  • 1:09:45
    was really small so play it no American
  • 1:09:49
    president has met with the leader of the
  • 1:09:50
    Islamic is this the Trump in UK Trump
  • 1:09:54
    would talk with Iran before we move away
  • 1:09:57
    from the UK you have no more UK think
  • 1:10:02
    there's one of his press conferences no
  • 1:10:05
    president has met with the leader of the
  • 1:10:07
    Islamic Republic of Iran are you
  • 1:10:09
    prepared if it comes to it to George or
  • 1:10:11
    President rouhani of Iran
  • 1:10:13
    he attended my talk yes yeah of course
  • 1:10:15
    I'd much rather talk you would sit down
  • 1:10:16
    with
  • 1:10:17
    ah sure the Iranians have refused to
  • 1:10:20
    talk for now the United States is the
  • 1:10:22
    only nation to leave the Iran nuclear
  • 1:10:24
    deal Iran recently threatened to resume
  • 1:10:26
    high-level uranium enrichment if the US
  • 1:10:29
    has not lift sanctions and impose when
  • 1:10:30
    it left the deal they're so smart they
  • 1:10:33
    know everything don't they this is smart
  • 1:10:35
    over there the the I guess the big thing
  • 1:10:41
    is that the big D Day celebration and I
  • 1:10:43
    think that's why Trump was on good
  • 1:10:44
    behavior he was not gonna met also he is
  • 1:10:47
    from Royal bloodlines and let's not
  • 1:10:49
    let's not kid each other about this if
  • 1:10:51
    there's factions in the world you've got