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1099: Wobama

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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December 30th, 2018
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Executive Producers: Neville Bareham, Sir Facereplacer: replacer of faces, Baron Bob of High Point, Baronetess Susan Johnson

Associate Executive Producers: Sir Roderick Veelo, Sir Finch, Sir Karl with A k, William Staud, Randal Brown, Ed LeBouthillier, Sir Hashtag Null, Sir Dragonheart

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Start of Show
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The Democratic Republic of the Congo Elections
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8:11
The Democratic Republic of the Congo Declares Cobalt a 'Strategic' Substance
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13:06
Nationwide 911 Outages Caused by CenturyLink Outage
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22:10
2020 Elections
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35:39
Michael Cohen's Phone Detected Near Prague in 2016
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46:18
Processed Meats Can Cause Cancer
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48:11
UK Health Campaign Shows How Much Worse Cigarettes Are Than Vaping
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55:27
Dockless Mobility
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1:01:24
Credits
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1:23:26
Mumia Abu-Jamal Granted Right of Appeal After Decades in Prison
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1:31:03
Jamal Khashoggi Was a Foreign Influence Agent for Qatar
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1:33:35
Bread Price Hike Sparks Violent Protests in Sudan
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1:37:09
Gatwick Airport Traffic Disruption Theories
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1:40:22
Cabinet Overhaul in Saudi Arabia
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1:42:50
Trump Administration Asked Investor for Advice on Stock Markets
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1:44:06
US-China Trade Deal Progress
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1:46:09
NBC News: "China Trade War Takes Toll in Pence's Town"
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1:52:08
Parkland Shooting Report Recommends Teachers be Allowed to Carry Guns
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1:58:01
World Economic Forum's 2019 Meeting in Davos Focuses on Shaping a New Architecture for the Next Wave of Globalization
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2:02:21
Angela Merkel: "Nation States Must Today be Prepared to Give Up Their Sovereignty"
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2:04:15
Shapeshifting Migrants
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2:05:14
Oldest World War II Veteran in the US Dies at Age 112
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2:06:12
Donations
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2:13:40
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:16:55
Times Square New Year's Eve Ball Drop to Celebrate Journalists and Press Freedom
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2:18:39
Transgender Woman Freaks Out at GameStop
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2:24:38
Vape Shop Worker Refuses to Serve Man Wearing Trump Hat
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2:28:32
White Liberalism
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2:32:43
Kids Telling Dirty Jokes by Vice
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2:36:08
Cyber Attack Disrupts Delivery of L.A. Times and Tribune Newspapers
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2:38:02
Trump Blames Democrates For Deaths of Migrant Children on the Border
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2:39:10
Dog Walking App Attracts $300 Million Investment From Saudi Arabia
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2:41:20
End of Show
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    oh okay Adam curry
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    Jhansi Devorah and Sunday December 30th
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    2018 this is your award-winning Gitmo
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    nation media assassination episode 1099
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    this is no agenda in the clue do in the
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    morning everybody
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    hi Madame Curie and from northern
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    Silicon Valley but I'm looking back on
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    all kinds of things
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    hey hey why are we working I'm John
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    Steve or we're working because we're
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    true artists
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    okay we need the money
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    because people want to have some real
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    information when everybody is gone well
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    they're Adela substitutes are in yeah
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    but the substitutes typically are no
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    good they're doing retrospectives look
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    back they bring in the B guests that's
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    the worst
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    yeah they do might be Michael Moore was
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    on speaking of the beat yes yes Michael
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    Moore was on Chris Chris for an hour
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    this buddy well yeah because at the end
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    of the year don't worry about her get on
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    tell you Michael Moore was on with Chris
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    Hayes for an hour oh god yeah it was
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    I couldn't even pull a single clip from
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    it that's it was just yeah so that's
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    what's going on in those days worked
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    yeah not today as far as I know but yeah
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    he was working and it's a good point it
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    was no I think might have been it might
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    have been a recording could have been
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    anyway that's what m5m does and here on
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    the best podcast an important Trump such
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    a horrible person everything's so
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    important let's take some just take some
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    time off we're all gonna die climate
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    change is gonna kill us in ten years
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    trump israel is literally ruining the
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    country and the world time to look back
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    at it back take a little look at what's
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    been happening in our in our little
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    media world and in the morning to the
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    troll room people showing up those young
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    but two and two together about that no
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    people showing up today for the for the
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    live stream that's always nice to see
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    that's good well today I'll just kick it
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    off today he is kind of partially
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    somewhat Election Day recording of a
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    report ah well let's kick it off with
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    yours and then I'll jump into my beat in
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    the Democratic Republic of Congo
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    political unrest is growing ahead of
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    Sunday's planned presidential election
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    on Wednesday the Election Commission
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    said voting in three cities would be
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    postponed until March due to the threats
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    of the Ebola virus spreading and ongoing
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    violence in those areas protesters took
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    to the streets in response to the news
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    with many saying their votes may not be
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    counted if election results are
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    announced as planned in
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    President Joseph Kabila was due to step
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    down in 2016 but elections have been
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    repeatedly postponed this comes as the
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    government ordered the European Union
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    ambassador to the DRC to leave after the
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    EU extended sanctions against a group of
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    officials including Emmanuel rama's Ani
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    Chaudhary the ruling party's
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    presidential candidate for their violent
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    response to protests and for repeatedly
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    delaying elections the DRC is
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    experienced in one of the deadliest
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    outbreaks of Ebola with health officials
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    reporting over 350 people dead and again
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    they're missing all of it we're
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    expecting better well yes if you go to a
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    local African Reporter
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    which is what I did because there are
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    some interesting things we've got a name
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    we've got some other details I'll start
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    off with as I said this is a yeah but
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    did you get to see this Chaudhary guy
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    with that crazy goatee yeah but he's not
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    interesting a different guy is
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    interesting it's President on Wednesday
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    made the announcement that elections
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    will be postponed
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    in these three localities we are talking
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    about a Benny tempo and young beat now
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    we know that Benny is where all the
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    cobalt is mined we're also sadly in
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    coincidentally all the Ebola is located
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    let's not forget that these three
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    localities are considered stronghold for
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    the opposition and of course is like mid
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    mention that fears of more Ebola
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    outbreak and his security on the Pinta
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    this decision and I want to say that
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    this decision has been hugely criticized
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    by a couple of a presence I want to
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    begin with the opposition stronghold
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    Martin fire Lou who are via a Twitter
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    and I would like to borrow his words it
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    is bernabéu tempo as well as you'll be
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    an integral part of the TRC and so which
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    is one and indivisible and the to that
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    effect the opposition leader has called
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    for a death day or OS : furniture will
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    mod today D 28th of December out there
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    in the GRC so Martin for you know a
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    second mmm-hmm I don't understand this
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    if this strong hole is all the
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    opposition why is it Amy Goodman and her
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    communists well it's you actually would
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    have a good time if she did three
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    seconds of research Martin feiyu Lou who
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    has been picked as the as the opposition
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    then again it's the opposite of
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    strongholds where the voting has been
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    postponed she did point out that they're
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    gonna announce the winners in January
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    spike T voting in March gives a crap is
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    it totally nobody cares nobody cares
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    what they're doing if he what's his name
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    here
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    if I you Lu are you ready for this we
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    there's a couple things they have in in
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    the Democratic Republic of Congo they
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    have a diamonds gold cobalt which we'll
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    get to in a moment very important Cobalt
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    I think the two thirds of the world's
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    cobalt which you need for your
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    technology gadgets and really anything
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    battery related well this guy used to
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    work for Exxon Exxon Mobil tooth
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    educated in America
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    he's a total oil guy they just brought
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    in an Exxon guy and he is the one that's
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    running listen to a an AFP report
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    outgoing president Joseph Kabila casts
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    his vote in the election to choose
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    creating the prospect of the first-ever
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    democratic transfer of power in the
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    former Belgian colony of the candidates
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    to succeed him kapila's own choice the
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    country's former interior minister is
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    said to be trailing in opinion polls
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    behind former Exxon Mobil manager Martin
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    say you knew the opposition accuses the
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    government of failing to distribute the
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    fruits of economic growth across the 85
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    million population it also fears
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    possible vote rigging three opposition
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    dominated regions have already been
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    barred from the poll officially because
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    of concerns over ethnic violence and the
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    spread of the Ebola forum results are
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    not expected until January the 15th I
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    never heard the pronunciation Ebola
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    that's new rule is that yeah it's yeah
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    for you Lew is the guy 62 he actually
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    was arrested several times during
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    opposition demonstrations in Kinshasa he
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    would say he was shot in the head with a
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    rubber bullet at one point this guy is
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    pretty tough but he's a big-time oil
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    executive he actually I think he owns a
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    couple of hotels and he's one of these
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    it leaders too has probably been hanging
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    around for a while and now it's his turn
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    to go in and take over since this kind
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    of sham government has been in power for
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    seven
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    teen years and I'm pretty sure that
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    cobalt is really the main issue although
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    he's the oil guy if you know though
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    minerals I'm sorry little guys no me no
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    minerals yeah that's true just today in
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    Kinshasa the Democratic Republic of
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    Congo has declared declared cobalt a
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    strategic substance and they are now
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    upping a tripling the royalty rate
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    miners pay of cobalt to 10 percent hmm
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    so the 10 percent royalty rate also
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    applies to coltan which you would know
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    better not the thing that's in trend
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    they use that in transistors maybe chips
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    coltan never I don't know what that is
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    it's probably probably the minerals
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    something else is extracted from my head
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    to line it up them and so if you start
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    looking a little bitter with what's
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    happening in this area of the Democratic
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    Republic of Congo it's it's pretty it's
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    pretty disgusting how this I mean these
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    miners you know don't think that these
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    guys have a hat on with a light and
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    they're going down in an elevator and a
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    tunnel now they're sitting on railroad
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    ties being lowered on ropes there's kids
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    you know groveling through whatever's
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    brought up to try and separate the
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    cobalt and everybody knows that this is
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    going on I mean you would kind of
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    presume that Apple would have looked at
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    it but they've come look at it
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    but I found a report that just a short
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    report that explains to us why we're no
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    longer hearing about children working in
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    the mines in the cobalt mines for your
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    cell phone and you know unsafe working
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    conditions and it's all in the words of
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    course companies around the world are
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    trying to clean up the way they source
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    cobalt a key ingredient in batteries for
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    smart phones left
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    and electric cars but conditions remain
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    hazardous in the Democratic Republic of
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    Congo which is where about two-thirds of
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    the world's cobalt is mine we traveled
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    to cozy the cobalt boom town of Congo
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    these guys are climbing into these holes
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    straddling railroad ties and hauling up
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    tons of cobalt with makeshift rope and
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    no proffer of safety equipment or
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    support whatsoever in January 2016 a
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    human rights report alerted the world to
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    how cobalt is often dug up by hand under
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    unsafe sometimes deadly conditions by
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    subsistence miners including children
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    pressure began mounting on the
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    businesses that use the metal in their
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    products since even suppliers at mine
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    cobalt industrially often buy or from
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    so-called artisanal miners also known by
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    the French word cuza
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    I didn't have time to go look at Apple's
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    annual reports but I'll bet you
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    somewhere they'll sit because it sounds
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    great yeah we at Apple we are very
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    concerned about the health and safety of
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    the people who work with us our partners
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    and that's why we source our cobalt only
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    from artisanal miners without laughing
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    Wow right just the idea of blood cobalt
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    yes so they get to us that near Blood
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    Diamond thing around Oh Mon Mon Mon Ami
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    can it miss the boat on the whole report
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    now you think if cobalt goes up by 10
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    percent or yet it is up ten percent
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    so it's tripled okay the cost of mining
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    cobalt they say that they cost it there
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    the tax of the government was tripled
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    that means yes reefs 3 percent it went
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    to 10 no no it tripled to 10 percent yes
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    well what is how do you triple to 10
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    percent if you don't have a base of
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    around 3 points maybe it's 3 percent yes
  • 12:03
    way said yes so they tripled it to 10
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    percent we're saying the same thing ok
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    good so
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    if the if the basic cost of cobalt goes
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    up and that price has got to get passed
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    along will our phones get more expensive
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    three cars and what probably is just
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    gonna add 10% to the you know to the
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    gonna go no that's a hundred bucks
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    have been not because of the cold balls
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    yeah gonna get more expensive cuz you're
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    getting ripped off exactly strategic
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    artisanal cobalt everybody look for it
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    in an iPhone near you
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    I'd love to see the videos of those kids
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    digging away what's in the show notes
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    they just they'd have it it's no secret
  • 12:49
    just called artisanal and everything's
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    okay yeah small batch yes small batch
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    cobalt beautiful
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    all right like you know where there's a
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    first depressing story to end the year
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    right it's we're not looking back no
  • 13:03
    retrospective we're showing you the
  • 13:04
    future so my wife is bitching and
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    moaning and groaning about this about
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    the damage of the 9/11 lines all over
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    the country yes watch yes I have
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    something this short clip it up ah
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    now I know it just why does one company
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    should say why does one company have
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    such control of all the 911 outlets
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    around everywhere a Century Link by the
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    way so just play the CenturyLink Clipper
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    we get a little background telecom giant
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    CenturyLink said today it's still trying
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    to restore internet and 9-1-1 emergency
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    services in several states across the
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    country
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    the outage began early Thursday
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    affecting millions of customers from
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    coast-to-coast louisiana-based
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    CenturyLink says the outage was not
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    caused by hacking the FCC is looking
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    into this oh well I'm glad you set that
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    up with that clip it's a perfect setup
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    because I have a little more detailed
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    story and I have a CenturyLink spokes
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    hole unless you wanted to say unless you
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    wanted to say something about this no
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    I'll say some and we're all done for the
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    second day in a row potentially millions
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    of Americans dialing 911 this an
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    extensive outage at telecommunications
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    companies CenturyLink not some emergency
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    call centers offline for certain callers
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    around the country highlighted in this
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    map from the website down detector in a
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    series of tweets beginning late thirst
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    by the way I love that the news is using
  • 14:33
    such artisanal tools as down detector
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    get a reading on the health of the nine
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    of 911 work it's it's sad engineers that
  • 14:45
    quote identified a network element and
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    that the problem would be restored
  • 14:49
    within four hours but today more than 14
  • 14:52
    hours later the company reported
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    technicians were still working to
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    restore services announcing a fix an
  • 14:58
    hour later the head of the FCC announced
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    an investigation calling the outage
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    completely unacceptable its breadth and
  • 15:05
    duration particularly troubling
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    Centrelink has not provided details on
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    what caused the disruption and
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    it's unclear if the outage prevented
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    anyone from receiving emergency
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    assistance if I rush this basha 14 are
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    boarders many of the affected emergency
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    response agencies suggested people call
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    their local police departments ten digit
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    phone number if they need help with its
  • 15:24
    9-1-1 system out Boston Fire tweeted a
  • 15:27
    picture of its old Street fire boxes
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    operational since 1852 in the case of an
  • 15:33
    actual emergency yes those things
  • 15:37
    apparently still work that's the old
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    days
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    yeah and works now so did you find out
  • 15:44
    anything about why CenturyLink has the
  • 15:46
    monopoly nobody's talking about it seem
  • 15:49
    but I looked at the map it's all over
  • 15:50
    the countries and big blotches all over
  • 15:53
    the place nobody I know what this is
  • 15:56
    this is it this is an example of
  • 15:58
    micro-services architecture I don't even
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    know if it's some code broke yeah that's
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    all it takes with MSA to ruin everything
  • 16:09
    they apparently sold as lose you could
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    do this you can just use this plug this
  • 16:13
    into your system and everything will
  • 16:15
    work fine you're gonna trust the calls
  • 16:18
    it does all these things and a piece of
  • 16:21
    code didn't work for something months
  • 16:23
    some weird happen who knows him as a
  • 16:25
    million things you haven't happens to
  • 16:27
    you all the time and artisinal code
  • 16:30
    artisinal code this is the problem with
  • 16:33
    MSA this is this is this is the doomsday
  • 16:37
    problem with micro services architecture
  • 16:39
    yeah this is professor Ted's territory
  • 16:42
    now if you would if you were the spokes
  • 16:45
    hole for CenturyLink and you had said
  • 16:48
    that and said well micro services
  • 16:49
    architecture you know we have to
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    reevaluate there's some things you know
  • 16:52
    what nobody fact I even think half our
  • 16:55
    audience doesn't know what I'm talking
  • 16:57
    about when I'm talking about
  • 16:57
    micro-services architectures and why
  • 16:59
    don't you speak to the other half of the
  • 17:01
    audience
  • 17:03
    the normal people as you journalists
  • 17:06
    well I just think they don't give a crap
  • 17:08
    or they what it was never presented to
  • 17:09
    him that would be the problem well no
  • 17:11
    you're not gonna tell anybody about
  • 17:13
    microservices architecture because it's
  • 17:15
    a well-kept secret that everything runs
  • 17:18
    using this technology or architecture
  • 17:21
    which is that you and you can start a
  • 17:24
    company up right now anyone can and find
  • 17:28
    pieces of micro-services architecture
  • 17:30
    with in other words little things
  • 17:31
    somebody will take your credit card
  • 17:32
    somebody will put you to create a
  • 17:35
    database of names and addresses somebody
  • 17:37
    who do a mailing list in some ways my
  • 17:40
    using of MailChimp is microservices
  • 17:42
    architecture I think in this case you
  • 17:46
    may not be right I think this is this
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    was a network issue is networking and
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    they run some kind of network and if
  • 17:52
    they say let me defend myself okay
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    micro-services architecture also depends
  • 17:58
    on quality network of quality network
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    connections microservices architecture
  • 18:04
    goes down not because of code but
  • 18:07
    because there's a break in some in some
  • 18:09
    network link and the next thing you know
  • 18:11
    nobody in the country can do a credit
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    card process right right right right
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    okay but this was this is that this is
  • 18:20
    the end of civilization as we know it
  • 18:22
    I'm sorry yeah I'm gonna you're wrong
  • 18:24
    that is not what this is I have the
  • 18:26
    answer from the spokesperson of Century
  • 18:29
    Link from the horse's mouth so to speak
  • 18:32
    you're wrong you do you're wrong you're
  • 18:34
    wrong you're wrong here is what actually
  • 18:36
    happened we are not concerned about the
  • 18:39
    reliability of the system this was a
  • 18:42
    technical glitch that we identified in
  • 18:45
    advance but now we will be able to put
  • 18:48
    in systems to make sure we can in the
  • 18:50
    future I got 99 glitches
  • 18:59
    and put a GoSee on there will ya I
  • 19:02
    really despise this
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    to stay and this was for journalists
  • 19:09
    this was a press conference statement a
  • 19:13
    glitch everybody and you know what all
  • 19:16
    the press did would you look at the time
  • 19:18
    I'll find my story sounds good now it's
  • 19:22
    about something that could actually hurt
  • 19:24
    somebody it's not acceptable it's not
  • 19:27
    acceptable report reporting it's not
  • 19:29
    acceptable I mean do you still the old
  • 19:32
    Adam curry pet peeve of the day clip
  • 19:40
    glitch my ass people it's so
  • 19:43
    unacceptable
  • 19:44
    it was the point is that that people
  • 19:58
    should look into this it is I didn't
  • 20:01
    even know about it until maybe four or
  • 20:03
    five years ago when I was explaining the
  • 20:06
    whole thing by the guys that one of the
  • 20:11
    the said patchy competitor I can't the
  • 20:13
    other names Ning uh engine acting and
  • 20:18
    jet engine yes yeah engine X they have
  • 20:23
    they rely on it they use it I mean
  • 20:25
    everybody's doing this show relies on
  • 20:28
    the drill so much cheaper we rely on it
  • 20:30
    to some degree we have some reliability
  • 20:33
    on micro-services architecture we do we
  • 20:36
    use buckets from Amazon yeah so that's
  • 20:40
    part of it
  • 20:41
    you can't get around it because you
  • 20:43
    could do it all in-house yeah but you
  • 20:45
    would be burdened and it would cost
  • 20:47
    Internet
  • 20:47
    interplan an interplanetary file systems
  • 20:50
    the future ipfs I use it I did my feed
  • 20:55
    and people had worked people got the
  • 20:57
    lumidee how many dozens of people got to
  • 21:00
    feed that way Oh mate probably just
  • 21:03
    about that the ones who subscribe to it
  • 21:06
    yeah it's hey it worked I just put it on
  • 21:10
    my laptop and people were able to
  • 21:11
    download it and I had my laptop
  • 21:13
    disconnected it was fantastic anyway
  • 21:16
    that digressing if this this needs to
  • 21:20
    stop this is now it's important I would
  • 21:23
    really like to know what's wrong I'm
  • 21:24
    sure there's some networking dudes named
  • 21:26
    Ben out there who were also interested
  • 21:28
    networking news they've been and I'm
  • 21:29
    sure if you look at that map of all
  • 21:31
    these outages all over the place I'll
  • 21:32
    betcha there's a single point of failure
  • 21:34
    that's the problem with all micro
  • 21:35
    services architecture there's a single
  • 21:38
    point of failure where some one thing
  • 21:40
    it's one little connection some word
  • 21:42
    crapped out there's some guy on a
  • 21:45
    bicycle you know using the bike lane and
  • 21:48
    roll over a cable that was exposed and
  • 21:51
    busted it yeah something like that yeah
  • 21:53
    the area
  • 21:56
    anyway yeah all right everybody get
  • 21:58
    everyone we got everyone straightened
  • 21:59
    out on that I'm glad you did it was just
  • 22:02
    a glitch I don't care when micro
  • 22:04
    services services it was a glitch
  • 22:06
    everybody just so he no glitch I was
  • 22:10
    watching the news thing because it was a
  • 22:12
    commentary I made on the last show about
  • 22:15
    you know it's too early to deal with the
  • 22:18
    2020 presidential election not the case
  • 22:21
    with NBC my goodness it's I don't think
  • 22:25
    it's a smart move
  • 22:26
    but that's up to them I think people
  • 22:29
    give us the foundation for what we can
  • 22:32
    look forward to complaining about you
  • 22:35
    might play the 20/20 prelims this is a
  • 22:37
    Halle Jackson red dress
  • 22:42
    Russian believable
  • 22:45
    she's a substitute oh she's up normally
  • 22:47
    the White House correspondent of a she's
  • 22:50
    got a little thin got kind of a thin
  • 22:52
    gaunt face you don't know that she's
  • 22:53
    actually a big woman mmm oh so she's a
  • 22:57
    big woman and they put her on the and I
  • 22:59
    don't mean any offense there's a lot of
  • 23:01
    big women but they put her in an
  • 23:02
    unflattering dress put her in a red
  • 23:05
    dress make her stand up thank you not
  • 23:09
    too early to talk about 2020 many
  • 23:11
    potential Democratic candidates spent
  • 23:13
    this holiday huddling with their
  • 23:14
    families about a possible presidential
  • 23:16
    run and in some cases even starting to
  • 23:19
    look for staffers NBC's Kelly O'Donnell
  • 23:21
    explains tis the season for Democrats to
  • 23:26
    decide over the holiday I will make that
  • 23:28
    decision on my family during the
  • 23:30
    holidays I'm going to sit down and
  • 23:32
    ringing in the 2020 race the new year
  • 23:39
    will usher in what is likely to be a
  • 23:41
    gigantic field of Democratic challengers
  • 23:44
    competing for staff resources and voters
  • 23:47
    attention I'm going to reflect on
  • 23:49
    whether this is something that I should
  • 23:52
    do but all that thinking turns into
  • 23:54
    action as early as January some forming
  • 23:57
    exploratory committees formal
  • 23:59
    announcements likely within a few months
  • 24:01
    the nomination is up for grabs from the
  • 24:04
    most recognizable and experienced like
  • 24:07
    Joe Biden it's all about Donald or
  • 24:11
    Bernie Sanders wondering if he can
  • 24:13
    capture lightning again based on my past
  • 24:16
    by the way that was a very odd clip they
  • 24:19
    threw in there of Joe Biden why would
  • 24:22
    they do that
  • 24:22
    I mean if Joe Biden is one of your guys
  • 24:25
    why would you make him sound like he's
  • 24:26
    only focused on Trump is that is that
  • 24:28
    truly what the Democratic voter wants I
  • 24:31
    found this whole package which I believe
  • 24:34
    Holly produced because she voiced
  • 24:37
    Theotis I'll wear the dress but I have
  • 24:40
    to produce the piece and she had a lot
  • 24:43
    of good stuff in this shit the
  • 24:44
    continuation or we're saying I'm gonna
  • 24:45
    go over the holidays I'm bright or with
  • 24:47
    my family I'm talking about my family
  • 24:49
    that she had a lot of good they're
  • 24:50
    consistent there's a very well produced
  • 24:52
    package did seem not too light like Joe
  • 24:56
    Biden
  • 24:57
    yeah yeah it's probably slant well
  • 24:59
    notice that the package and everything
  • 25:01
    on embassies terrible let me finish it
  • 25:03
    up and I want to hear the rest of it for
  • 25:05
    grabs
  • 25:06
    from the most recognized stop stop says
  • 25:09
    you can finish do you get efficient up
  • 25:10
    go all the way if you if you look at it
  • 25:13
    from the perspective of a propaganda
  • 25:15
    piece I think the way it ends kind of
  • 25:19
    gives us a little indication of what
  • 25:20
    we're gonna be witnessing in okay okay
  • 25:23
    good and experienced like Joe Biden it's
  • 25:25
    all about Donald it's not about anything
  • 25:27
    else or Bernie Sanders wondering if he
  • 25:30
    can capture lightning again based on my
  • 25:33
    past based on my ideas that in fact I am
  • 25:36
    the candidate that can't defeat trouble
  • 25:39
    or will Democrats make a generational
  • 25:42
    shift a USA Today Suffolk University
  • 25:44
    poll finds 59% of Democrats and
  • 25:48
    independents surveyed say they would be
  • 25:50
    excited about someone entirely new at
  • 25:54
    least six senators could run for the
  • 25:56
    first time vision you have to decide
  • 25:58
    that you would be a good president that
  • 26:00
    you could bring the country together
  • 26:01
    that you would be able to beat Donald
  • 26:04
    Trump a November Senate defeat has not
  • 26:06
    dampened buzz around better O'Rourke
  • 26:09
    rule anything else and just former Obama
  • 26:13
    cabinet secretary Julian Castro has a
  • 26:16
    date picked on January 12th I'm gonna
  • 26:19
    make an announcement about my plans of
  • 26:22
    course it's early and the path
  • 26:23
    unpredictable but the process is getting
  • 26:26
    underway with many of these potential
  • 26:28
    candidates trying to position themselves
  • 26:29
    in what will be a costly and competitive
  • 26:32
    quest for the nomination Democrats also
  • 26:35
    have to decide among three cities where
  • 26:38
    they will hold their nominating
  • 26:39
    convention and it will go fast Iowa
  • 26:42
    Democrats will be meeting to caucus in
  • 26:44
    just about 400 days Kalli almost here
  • 26:47
    Kelly O'Donnell in Washington Kelly
  • 26:49
    thank you
  • 26:49
    so you think better I was right where
  • 26:52
    that was Kelly O'Donnell not a holiday
  • 26:54
    report okay
  • 26:56
    so Beto Beto huh you know that's it's
  • 27:01
    coincidental the keeper and I were out
  • 27:04
    yesterday you know looking for a place
  • 27:06
    to move to in april/may timeframe and so
  • 27:10
    we know we also went to some open houses
  • 27:12
    of places we can't afford but everywhere
  • 27:15
    you go South Austin its South Austin
  • 27:19
    particular the better signs are still up
  • 27:22
    one of our fit a James I think
  • 27:25
    Fitzpatrick I believe is last name one
  • 27:28
    of your Texas producers sent me a Beto
  • 27:30
    sign from one of the big ones the out
  • 27:33
    with the big the really big with their
  • 27:35
    they're cool and that really really babe
  • 27:36
    it was big ya know but everyone has
  • 27:39
    their buds their their their their yard
  • 27:41
    signs still up the yard signs are
  • 27:43
    everywhere yeah that's very interesting
  • 27:46
    I'm reminded of Pia Zadora when the rain
  • 27:51
    begins to fall yes PSO Dora let's talk
  • 27:55
    about right I interviewed her did you
  • 27:58
    know yes you tell me what you think well
  • 28:01
    well all I know is that she would a rich
  • 28:03
    husband well I let me like he has a rich
  • 28:05
    wife who promoted a hit because her
  • 28:08
    dream was to be a superstar yes so he
  • 28:11
    just spent a lot of money on her getting
  • 28:13
    her let me tell you what let me tell you
  • 28:14
    exactly what he did I think he's dead
  • 28:16
    now I think he's long gone but Pia
  • 28:18
    Zadora had had manipulated her her guys
  • 28:22
    money hmm
  • 28:23
    and I want to say that they seemed very
  • 28:24
    much in love so I don't it's fine by me
  • 28:27
    to make this song it was from they
  • 28:31
    produced a movie and a soundtrack and as
  • 28:35
    she did the soundtrack with Jermaine
  • 28:37
    Jackson which is like you know you got a
  • 28:39
    lot of money we didn't quite have
  • 28:40
    Michael Jackson money so we got Jermaine
  • 28:42
    Jackson and this and when the rain
  • 28:45
    begins to fall from now I'm doing this
  • 28:47
    from the top top had something about the
  • 28:49
    something in the alien now I got a no
  • 28:51
    Pia Zadora movie with it something
  • 28:55
    there's something in the alien I'm gonna
  • 28:58
    go watch it now I know you don't but was
  • 29:01
    it the voyage of the ROC aliens so it
  • 29:05
    was something like that man she did a
  • 29:07
    lot of movies I mean her husband paid
  • 29:09
    for a lot of movies yeah voyage of the
  • 29:12
    ROC aliens I believe it was she was kind
  • 29:15
    of a cutie yeah boy did you think you
  • 29:19
    met her and talked to her I didn't even
  • 29:21
    know no now she's all right she was very
  • 29:24
    tiny very right tiny it was but yes your
  • 29:29
    point is well made because
  • 29:30
    betos wife is heiress to a large fortune
  • 29:35
    and her her daddy alien her daddy-o's
  • 29:38
    probably still has some influence but I
  • 29:41
    was thinking about it and while he seems
  • 29:43
    kind of good on paper
  • 29:45
    you know white Obama let's just call him
  • 29:47
    that he has just what I like it Wow
  • 29:50
    white robe but we couldn't call him whoa
  • 29:52
    Bhama if you want to sure I think we
  • 29:55
    have a winner
  • 29:58
    Obama he reminds you of I mean how many
  • 30:01
    reports have we not heard it why very
  • 30:04
    reminiscent of Obama okay
  • 30:07
    Obama's style Obama yes he doesn't smile
  • 30:10
    and if you steal it or furs just yeah
  • 30:12
    there's lots of studies in steel bomber
  • 30:14
    was influential pressure on young people
  • 30:18
    like Obama that little black like little
  • 30:22
    better and I can I see that people dig
  • 30:25
    that part but is he's much younger than
  • 30:29
    Obama was I think he's 10 years younger
  • 30:31
    than Obama was when he when he ran and I
  • 30:34
    don't think so and did you just look at
  • 30:38
    the guy in like did you can see him
  • 30:40
    running you can see him debating do you
  • 30:42
    really see and running the country
  • 30:46
    I don't think any American sees that can
  • 30:49
    be like yeah he's just not you know it
  • 30:53
    doesn't have enough JFK was the same way
  • 30:55
    dude that's the same way man yeah man
  • 30:58
    okay was like a young guy they didn't
  • 31:01
    like kazoos good look I think if you
  • 31:02
    were old enough if you were old enough
  • 31:04
    to vote for JFK then you can vote for
  • 31:05
    Obama you can do whatever you want
  • 31:10
    mmm I just I don't know
  • 31:14
    even it would be great for the show well
  • 31:17
    it's gonna be on this is gonna happen I
  • 31:19
    mean they're gonna run him he's not
  • 31:20
    gonna get Pat in through the primaries
  • 31:21
    Hillary's still gonna come in yes yes as
  • 31:25
    for your newsletter I want you to
  • 31:27
    reiterate this because it's important
  • 31:28
    where we were hearing wall-to-wall
  • 31:30
    Hillary up until about six six weeks ago
  • 31:34
    she was everywhere she was with the
  • 31:37
    women intent lesbians in tech and that's
  • 31:39
    really less I'm not making that up it
  • 31:41
    was the the lesbians in tech conference
  • 31:43
    she's doing interviews everywhere she's
  • 31:46
    hamming it up she's got her paperback
  • 31:48
    version with the with a prologue and
  • 31:52
    then she starts this fateful tour a
  • 31:55
    three-hour tour and you know that
  • 31:59
    apparently I don't even know if the tour
  • 32:01
    has been canceled no one's reporting on
  • 32:03
    it
  • 32:03
    other than no this has not had been
  • 32:05
    canceled and nobody's reporting on it
  • 32:07
    right so what is you know there's
  • 32:09
    material in there hell yes so that if
  • 32:15
    you don't mind just for there's a lot of
  • 32:16
    people who just foolishly do not
  • 32:18
    subscribe to the newsletter I think it's
  • 32:20
    good that you explain again just what's
  • 32:22
    happening here
  • 32:24
    well to sum it up Hilary's being
  • 32:26
    blackballed by the media yes and she has
  • 32:30
    been left that when they talk about
  • 32:31
    polls well here's the newest poll says
  • 32:34
    this that the other thing there's no
  • 32:36
    mention of her when they did this
  • 32:37
    rundown that Kelly did on this Kathy
  • 32:40
    were Kelly whatever who it was that did
  • 32:42
    that report we just played she has all
  • 32:45
    pictures that she has you know
  • 32:46
    screenshots of one you know all the
  • 32:50
    potential candidates from including Amy
  • 32:53
    Klobuchar who they even have a sound
  • 32:56
    bite of Amy Klobuchar talking about how
  • 32:58
    she's thinking of running yeah and so
  • 33:01
    you have you know screenshot after
  • 33:03
    screenshot of people in a big you know
  • 33:06
    murderers row shot right and no Hillary
  • 33:10
    there's nothing Larry she's not
  • 33:11
    mentioned she's not shown she's been
  • 33:14
    completely blackballed when they do
  • 33:15
    polls she'll show up in the poll but
  • 33:18
    they will leave her out when they
  • 33:19
    present it to the public so what do you
  • 33:23
    think her strategy will be if she's not
  • 33:25
    taking this lying down I mean she's
  • 33:27
    clearly lying wait she's not gonna
  • 33:31
    happen with her yeah she is going to
  • 33:34
    she's taking names for starters right um
  • 33:37
    I think what she's gonna do is lay and
  • 33:41
    wait and she knows he's been through
  • 33:43
    this enough she's did the old but she
  • 33:44
    lost Obama that she lost the Trump and
  • 33:46
    so she's she ain't gonna lose to bet oh
  • 33:49
    no no she's not gonna lose the bet oh
  • 33:51
    but what she's gonna do she knows the
  • 33:53
    ropes enough now she still has the same
  • 33:55
    people that she's gonna lay in wait and
  • 33:58
    let these guys you know kill each other
  • 34:00
    off and she's gonna come in late
  • 34:03
    hmm she's gonna swoop in risky risky
  • 34:07
    strategy but she left her wait for some
  • 34:10
    risky as you think if you consider the
  • 34:12
    field being so big and everybody wanting
  • 34:16
    to run yeah
  • 34:18
    nor talking 40 people I know but the
  • 34:20
    media is strong she clearly doesn't have
  • 34:22
    CNN on her side MSNBC seems to have
  • 34:26
    waned she cause she counting on Fox News
  • 34:29
    the Democrats at Fox News to to help her
  • 34:34
    no there she's counting on the news
  • 34:36
    cycle to help her you know what she
  • 34:38
    swoops in it'll be like a big deal and
  • 34:40
    nor could she win again it becomes a
  • 34:42
    center of attention she won't have any
  • 34:43
    trouble getting ink I'm just wondering
  • 34:45
    what the catalyst will be I'm not
  • 34:47
    disagreeing with with the strategy
  • 34:49
    although I see you know I don't know
  • 34:50
    she's nuts she really thinks she can do
  • 34:53
    this
  • 34:55
    maybe she can I don't know maybe just
  • 34:56
    maybe the numbers do add up against her
  • 34:58
    but it I don't think we'll see a repeat
  • 35:00
    of Trump Clinton just doesn't sound
  • 35:02
    right it doesn't sound right to me
  • 35:05
    either
  • 35:05
    but I this is I think gonna be what she
  • 35:08
    tries to do it and I think she could
  • 35:10
    pull it off it's not even gonna be a
  • 35:12
    Trump in 2020 he's going to jail he's
  • 35:18
    going to jail I tell you it impeachment
  • 35:21
    imminent that's all I see on television
  • 35:23
    it's imminent and the people in it and
  • 35:25
    it's not a New York Times the New York
  • 35:28
    Times the worst it's not if he's going
  • 35:35
    to be impeached it's when it's where it
  • 35:38
    is well just on that for a second I
  • 35:43
    guess somewhere Christmas right after
  • 35:45
    Christmas a report came out that there
  • 35:48
    was a prog ping from Michael Cohen
  • 35:52
    cellphone which would mean he lied and
  • 35:55
    that he was in Prague colluding with the
  • 35:57
    Russians and this report came from
  • 36:00
    McClatchy which I don't I don't know why
  • 36:02
    but I kind I think I know the name but
  • 36:04
    everyone seems to to be saying this is a
  • 36:06
    very reputable outfit tell me whom
  • 36:08
    McClatchy is one of the old syndicates
  • 36:11
    it's very so it's very established not
  • 36:14
    some newbie it's not like whatever you
  • 36:17
    pointed out earlier about the downtime
  • 36:19
    calm or whatever it is so they have they
  • 36:23
    have chops really they're a dying
  • 36:25
    operation but it's you know oh then you
  • 36:28
    will like these two clips I have from
  • 36:30
    the man himself
  • 36:31
    Greg Gordon who is the person who wrote
  • 36:34
    and filed the story for McClatchy then
  • 36:37
    when you're you know even though you're
  • 36:39
    old-school I mean they have standing is
  • 36:41
    that what you're saying they're they're
  • 36:42
    reputable they're seniors they have
  • 36:43
    standing yeah I think yeah well so the
  • 36:47
    best they could do is get on the joy
  • 36:48
    read show for some reason over at MSNBC
  • 36:51
    it doesn't include having a good agent
  • 36:54
    oh well they definitely need an upgrade
  • 36:56
    an agent and the question is you know
  • 36:59
    who exactly were your sources now it's
  • 37:02
    okay I guess we're in an era of
  • 37:03
    everything is anonymous sources people
  • 37:06
    you know I I can imagine seeing some of
  • 37:09
    these
  • 37:09
    old-school operations having just stoop
  • 37:13
    to new-age tactics to get some airtime
  • 37:17
    because they can't do it with their
  • 37:19
    legitimate reporting that's a
  • 37:20
    possibility do you have any idea about
  • 37:23
    their sources have you heard any no I
  • 37:25
    don't even know this story oh oh well
  • 37:28
    this was this this is part of this you
  • 37:32
    know sparking up of the it's all over
  • 37:34
    for him because it turns out that there
  • 37:37
    is evidence somewhere from someone from
  • 37:40
    sources that have a ping in Prague from
  • 37:45
    Michael Cohen cellphone that would have
  • 37:48
    to be the NSA that did found that or
  • 37:51
    this or the station chief from the CIA
  • 37:54
    that was monitoring something or that an
  • 37:56
    oxidant sounds sketchy well let's listen
  • 37:58
    to McClatchy defend his reporting or
  • 38:00
    that Greg Gordon from McClatchy defend
  • 38:02
    the reporting and the sources put
  • 38:06
    Michael Cohen cellphone in Prague one
  • 38:09
    would think those would be fairly
  • 38:10
    specific but the reporting of McClatchy
  • 38:12
    is that they were either in August or
  • 38:14
    September how would they not be more
  • 38:16
    specific if these are actual intercepts
  • 38:18
    that show the phone pings I think they
  • 38:20
    are more specific but unfortunately we
  • 38:22
    weren't able to pry that out of our
  • 38:24
    sources so we're getting information
  • 38:26
    from foreign intelligence agency this is
  • 38:28
    a counterintelligence investigation did
  • 38:31
    your sources see the interception
  • 38:33
    themselves or are they passing along
  • 38:35
    information from other people the
  • 38:37
    sources have some of the sources have
  • 38:40
    government sources and some of the
  • 38:43
    sources are I got government sources or
  • 38:48
    people who have told us that they have
  • 38:51
    trusted intelligence type sources that
  • 38:54
    they get information from we don't know
  • 38:56
    the specifics but we have used these
  • 38:58
    sources on many subjects and they have
  • 39:00
    been very accurate I'd say that not only
  • 39:02
    stooping to the modern tactics I'd say
  • 39:05
    he's holding his his ankles he's so
  • 39:08
    stupid over I would find this to be very
  • 39:13
    sketchy and then he started off by
  • 39:15
    saying that the sources were foreign
  • 39:17
    intelligence yes yes not our boys no NSA
  • 39:21
    CIA it gets better
  • 39:23
    you know that sounds a lot like I still
  • 39:25
    thought see I reread this deal because
  • 39:27
    listen to him laugh as she basically
  • 39:29
    rubs it in his face I'll give him a give
  • 39:32
    her a point for that saying yeah this
  • 39:33
    kind of sounds like the steal dossier
  • 39:34
    and he just cracks up laughing lot like
  • 39:41
    I still got see I reread this deal
  • 39:43
    because what the hell is why did why
  • 39:47
    what was so funny about that
  • 39:51
    I'm wondering myself I mean I'm kind of
  • 39:53
    befuddled by this again McClatchy and it
  • 39:56
    wasn't like a nervous laugh it was a it
  • 39:59
    was a guffaw
  • 40:00
    yeah there wasn't a tell it was like and
  • 40:02
    I'm at all I don't know what that was so
  • 40:05
    if she says I reread this T it sounds
  • 40:06
    like the steel dossier so be there he
  • 40:08
    thinks of steel dossier is total crap or
  • 40:11
    it's a complete breakdown of his system
  • 40:15
    like hahaha something is very strange
  • 40:27
    did they let you see them you sources
  • 40:36
    have been used before and they're saying
  • 40:38
    it was they were told that these
  • 40:39
    intercepts exist though it's true have
  • 40:42
    they what kind of evidence do they
  • 40:43
    provide you for you to confident that
  • 40:46
    this was something that you're willing
  • 40:48
    to put MacLeod she's named on well for
  • 40:50
    one thing we've we got numbers we have
  • 40:53
    four sources who've told us about this
  • 40:56
    for another we have we have read our
  • 40:59
    beginning of our story to some of these
  • 41:02
    sources to make absolutely certain we've
  • 41:03
    gone over it and over it and over it we
  • 41:06
    worked on this story know they went over
  • 41:09
    it and over it and over it and yeah he
  • 41:12
    has four sources so he's got numbers I
  • 41:14
    like how he said that I first of all we
  • 41:16
    got numbers is that number she said is
  • 41:17
    that a thing you say in the news
  • 41:18
    business like if we got numbers here
  • 41:20
    okay I got numbers I got sources who
  • 41:23
    know government sources I got numbers I
  • 41:25
    McClatchy did your sources come to you
  • 41:27
    and say hey we have this new information
  • 41:28
    or did you go to them asking well it's
  • 41:32
    been a dialogue for a long time so you
  • 41:34
    know in my partner Peter stone did some
  • 41:37
    of this elusive sleuthing but we both
  • 41:40
    are sleuthing
  • 41:42
    sleuthing what what is he Nancy Drew yes
  • 41:48
    I'm here in Prague
  • 41:49
    maybe there's something behind the
  • 41:51
    bookcase thing but we both are
  • 41:55
    well-acquainted with the sources and and
  • 41:58
    we I would say we developed some of
  • 42:00
    these some of this came from foreign
  • 42:01
    sources and those people one of those
  • 42:05
    people talked to us over a long period
  • 42:08
    of time before he provided a drop of
  • 42:10
    information he's gonna he's the guy is
  • 42:13
    gonna come he's not unglued but
  • 42:16
    everything's unwinding before his very
  • 42:18
    eyes and he even admits to it in this it
  • 42:21
    gets is because we know that there is a
  • 42:26
    possibility that sometimes sources have
  • 42:28
    motives for putting things out and one
  • 42:30
    of those motives might be to get
  • 42:31
    McClatchy to run a story like this even
  • 42:33
    if it isn't true is there any concern at
  • 42:35
    all that people might have had a
  • 42:36
    motivation to try to get you to run a
  • 42:38
    story it was sort of an audit in Prague
  • 42:40
    situation work what is a DA in Prague
  • 42:43
    I've heard the expression I've never
  • 42:44
    heard that expression oh now we have to
  • 42:47
    now we have to look at
  • 42:51
    I heard uh in is I think it's a movie
  • 42:54
    reference
  • 42:54
    I think Alpha Delta alpha I had maybe
  • 42:59
    not had to in Prague I know at a
  • 43:03
    restaurant and one of those motors might
  • 43:11
    be to get McClatchy to run a story like
  • 43:12
    this even if it isn't true is there any
  • 43:15
    concern at all that people might have
  • 43:16
    had a motivation to try to get you to
  • 43:18
    run a story there was sort of an audit
  • 43:19
    in Prague situation in Prague like maybe
  • 43:22
    I'm not hearing it right Abba ABBA and
  • 43:24
    Prague maybe but they want it printed
  • 43:30
    well that's not the kind of dialogue
  • 43:34
    we've had would create a kind of
  • 43:36
    suspicion because of the people that
  • 43:38
    we've been working with but you always
  • 43:41
    have to be wary of disinformation what I
  • 43:43
    would say about this information we just
  • 43:45
    think about the dossier and Michael
  • 43:47
    Cohen because this is this whole Cowan
  • 43:50
    episode the reason it's got so much
  • 43:52
    attention is that it goes if Muller has
  • 43:56
    not yet charged anybody with collusion
  • 43:59
    or any crime right waiting to collision
  • 44:02
    and and so with this what this meeting
  • 44:07
    or purported meeting in Prague quid mean
  • 44:11
    is the first evidence of some sort of
  • 44:13
    collusion beyond this the fact that his
  • 44:16
    cellphone
  • 44:17
    appeared to show up and in the Prague
  • 44:19
    area we don't even know if there wasn't
  • 44:20
    meaning but this is coupled with some
  • 44:25
    intelligence from an Eastern European
  • 44:27
    intelligence agency that picked up this
  • 44:32
    this conversation conversation yeah so
  • 44:37
    now the conversation they picked it up
  • 44:41
    and somehow it came from Prague and you
  • 44:44
    know the collusion it's never last 20
  • 44:47
    seconds very very sad thing this man is
  • 44:50
    about to say Michael Cohen is in Prague
  • 44:53
    from a Russian official we believe a
  • 44:55
    senior Russian officials questioned she
  • 44:57
    would be is there any
  • 44:59
    but you were able to actually physically
  • 45:01
    see for yourself that corroborated what
  • 45:03
    these sources were telling you look at
  • 45:06
    the intercepts that would give you some
  • 45:07
    further evidence beyond what we had we
  • 45:09
    held out for a while for that and we you
  • 45:12
    know where they came at a time when we
  • 45:13
    thought we had a critical mass it is a
  • 45:15
    competitive business yeah it is indeed
  • 45:18
    it's a competitive business we had to
  • 45:21
    get the story out there I think that's
  • 45:25
    very sad to hear this from a so called
  • 45:28
    record bold school organization well
  • 45:30
    it's it's a shame well that's why you
  • 45:32
    don't that's what you never heard of
  • 45:34
    them Oh sad it seems to me that the CIA
  • 45:39
    the NSA somebody would know if this coin
  • 45:42
    was floating around Prague ever yeah so
  • 45:44
    I mean that's not this is not a story
  • 45:46
    it's a bull crap button thing just a
  • 45:48
    price excite the public well and for its
  • 45:51
    McClatchy
  • 45:53
    the final nail in the coffin sounds like
  • 45:56
    to me done those boys are done I tell
  • 46:00
    you
  • 46:03
    no see down here for this no is it down
  • 46:09
    or it's it's meant to entertain we've
  • 46:12
    had glitches we've had pings what else
  • 46:15
    do we have going on in the news well I
  • 46:18
    got a series of clips
  • 46:20
    let me change these either oh I did I
  • 46:22
    did I was going through my he was gonna
  • 46:24
    do the I did again or the whatever
  • 46:26
    happened to ah yes yes yes yes
  • 46:28
    I've to clips on the same topic because
  • 46:30
    it turned out to be this was in 2015
  • 46:32
    just a few years ago it turns out to be
  • 46:36
    this was the news item of the year it
  • 46:38
    was there were every channel as I have
  • 46:40
    the two clips about it it was going on
  • 46:42
    and on everyone was just up in arms and
  • 46:44
    they're just everyone's in a tizzy over
  • 46:47
    this whatever happened to story and I
  • 46:50
    had the PBS version and they have the
  • 46:52
    ABC teaser on on this thing let's start
  • 46:56
    with the teaser the eye opening new
  • 46:57
    cancer warning hotdogs processed meat
  • 47:00
    and bacon now put in the same category
  • 47:02
    as cigarettes and asbestos let's listen
  • 47:17
    to the PBS report this new report
  • 47:20
    released today by the World Health
  • 47:21
    Organization found that often beloved
  • 47:23
    like sausage bacon ham and hot dogs can
  • 47:27
    cause certain types of cancer
  • 47:28
    prior studies had established similar
  • 47:30
    connections but the w-h-o was the most
  • 47:32
    prominent health organization to
  • 47:34
    specifically say processed meats can
  • 47:36
    cause cancer it looked at more than 800
  • 47:39
    studies around the world it also found
  • 47:41
    that eating freshly prepared red meat
  • 47:43
    like steak or pork or lamb probably can
  • 47:46
    cause cancer as well now is bacon
  • 47:48
    process
  • 47:50
    but he's cured it slice slice does not
  • 47:52
    awesome process to them means anything
  • 47:56
    other than just shooting still long
  • 47:58
    behaving
  • 48:00
    it's still on the pig hits on its
  • 48:02
    unprocessed bacon it's smoked and then
  • 48:04
    treat you sometimes with the nitrites
  • 48:07
    are we dead yet yeah yeah well I can
  • 48:12
    follow that up with the story you know
  • 48:14
    in in the united states of gitmo nation
  • 48:16
    we have the Food and Drug Administration
  • 48:19
    running around of trying to not trying
  • 48:23
    writing up regulations to stop children
  • 48:25
    from the evil vaping because it leads to
  • 48:27
    smoking it's a gateway drug to smoking
  • 48:31
    we don't know the effects of nicotine
  • 48:32
    you could die and meanwhile kids are
  • 48:35
    vaping up a storm but they're not
  • 48:37
    smoking cigarettes which is why the
  • 48:39
    company formerly known as Philip Morris
  • 48:41
    bought Joule for some ungodly amounts it
  • 48:46
    was at sixty valuation sixty billion
  • 48:48
    dollars so crazy and from real sales and
  • 48:51
    real forward-looking stuff so you know
  • 48:54
    that there's a very big future in the U
  • 48:57
    K Gitmo nation east they haven't quite
  • 49:00
    caught on to that did they no longer
  • 49:02
    have it I thought Philip Morris was
  • 49:04
    wasn't that British
  • 49:07
    originally or at some point do they not
  • 49:10
    do they no longer have a stake in the in
  • 49:12
    cigarettes and tobacco products the UK I
  • 49:16
    think I wonder I wonder if the UK has
  • 49:18
    any any relation to tobacco anymore
  • 49:21
    because the public health England which
  • 49:23
    is the government's you know public
  • 49:26
    health propaganda arm has launched a
  • 49:29
    campaign to show well I'll play though
  • 49:33
    let me show towline Philip Morris I'm
  • 49:35
    looking on their wiki page they are a
  • 49:39
    they're still in tobacco they are
  • 49:41
    founded in 1847 their headquarters in
  • 49:45
    New York they're not a British company
  • 49:46
    thought they were what is the at British
  • 49:49
    American Tobacco there was a number of
  • 49:51
    companies that there was a lot of anyway
  • 49:54
    they won't if they do because they're
  • 49:56
    really trying to get rid of cigarettes
  • 49:58
    and they're doing it by showing the kids
  • 50:00
    vaping is good and what we are going to
  • 50:02
    do this we are going to have I need to
  • 50:11
    give you some visual aids here so they
  • 50:13
    have three bell jars with cotton balls
  • 50:15
    in them one is the control bell jar
  • 50:18
    which just has cotton balls not just air
  • 50:20
    then they have one with a vape stuck on
  • 50:23
    the top and they have one with a
  • 50:25
    cigarette holder and they drew in the
  • 50:30
    equivalent amount of cigarette smoke and
  • 50:32
    vape vaporizer condensation as to a
  • 50:37
    month's worth of smoking each product
  • 50:40
    and I'll say smoking in months worth of
  • 50:44
    nicotine in one puff no a monk's worth
  • 50:46
    it's not the nicotine a month's worth of
  • 50:48
    whatever you puff from a cigarette a
  • 50:50
    month's worth of for whatever you puff
  • 50:52
    from a vape and then a just nothing
  • 50:56
    plain old air with the same not just the
  • 50:59
    control of the controlled jaar jaar
  • 51:02
    which we draw
  • 51:03
    from an e-cigarette for the same amount
  • 51:05
    of time and then as a control condition
  • 51:07
    we have clear air to demonstrate not
  • 51:10
    smoking or vaping so let's see what's
  • 51:12
    going to happen
  • 51:15
    yeah I mean it just is so revolting of
  • 51:22
    the jar here a lump of time so that's
  • 51:26
    what's going on inside your lungs
  • 51:29
    there's loads of it and this is a
  • 51:31
    reactor one month look at the B
  • 51:36
    cigarette
  • 51:36
    it's just a little bit of vapor but the
  • 51:40
    only one that's really got much in the
  • 51:42
    way of color my research shows that are
  • 51:47
    significantly less harmful density grows
  • 51:49
    a big reason for this is the tar which
  • 51:51
    you can see here which is not produced
  • 51:54
    by heart disease
  • 51:59
    well there are six million smokers in
  • 52:01
    England and we think about half a
  • 52:03
    million of them will try and stop
  • 52:04
    smoking in January the best thing I
  • 52:06
    smoked a candy for their health is to
  • 52:08
    stop smoking
  • 52:09
    but don't try and do it on your own we
  • 52:11
    ask people to search smoke-free and get
  • 52:13
    some help so that they can be more
  • 52:15
    successful in quitting smoking so I
  • 52:17
    don't know but to me it sounded like
  • 52:19
    they were telling the kids vaping is
  • 52:20
    good
  • 52:23
    well it doesn't produce a lump of tar it
  • 52:27
    doesn't and there was zero talk of
  • 52:29
    nicotine nicotine is not the issue the
  • 52:33
    tar and whatever you know whatever other
  • 52:36
    cancer is the addictive issue so they
  • 52:39
    say bars not known as addicted to tar
  • 52:41
    become a roofer no right yeah exactly
  • 52:50
    but you get the point it's like
  • 52:52
    someone's not on my there promote of
  • 52:54
    course this is what these guys do
  • 52:56
    they've been in the business of these
  • 52:58
    guys must be beside themselves when they
  • 53:00
    hit were banned from advertising they
  • 53:03
    write they own the net one of the NASCAR
  • 53:05
    races they they were advertising on TV
  • 53:08
    they had brought smoke in Chesterfield
  • 53:11
    you remember Johnny players special now
  • 53:14
    JPS the black with the gold letters it
  • 53:16
    was all the recent cars had it yeah JPS
  • 53:19
    Johnny players special and the
  • 53:20
    cigarettes and members of 15 year old
  • 53:22
    ahead man with smoke some Johnny Playa
  • 53:24
    specials well there's like there's like
  • 53:25
    smoking a dog turd like unbelievably
  • 53:30
    crap
  • 53:32
    good tell Moses cigarette sir well I'd
  • 53:34
    ever smoked so I can't really meet I'm
  • 53:35
    not a connoisseur so I can't say no I
  • 53:38
    can but these guys that you have to be
  • 53:40
    beside themselves because we're talking
  • 53:41
    about some of the greatest marketing
  • 53:42
    people in the world that have to sit
  • 53:45
    down and come up with schemes because
  • 53:48
    they can't really just you can't just
  • 53:50
    cut them loose it's got to be very
  • 53:52
    frustrating right but so this is their
  • 53:57
    latest so these are doing this they
  • 53:58
    either keep them busy yeah well I see
  • 54:01
    there's a bigger future for vaping it's
  • 54:03
    big I think you're right it's really
  • 54:06
    well if only we hit the door I think is
  • 54:08
    dorky especially the smoke smoke babies
  • 54:11
    dorky it is Shh they do not spoken as
  • 54:14
    vapor but my favorite is guys are those
  • 54:16
    souped up things they fill a room you
  • 54:19
    know this vapor but the vape goes it
  • 54:21
    dissipates pretty quickly yeah but it's
  • 54:24
    yeah but I do remember going to visit
  • 54:27
    the vape
  • 54:28
    I remember visiting Dexter at the vapor
  • 54:30
    conference in Dallas a couple years back
  • 54:32
    and the whole hall was just just one
  • 54:35
    cloud there's his hang in there
  • 54:37
    you know smelling of like popcorn and
  • 54:41
    cotton candy I'm not a big fan of the
  • 54:46
    car was an event in Dallas it was big
  • 54:48
    was that the convention center a lot of
  • 54:50
    people vape and that's when I got the
  • 54:51
    hoverboard remember oh yeah what ever
  • 54:54
    happened to that thing yeah I gave it
  • 54:55
    away
  • 54:56
    it's a flying bomb man I don't want to
  • 54:59
    be on that thing little a battery just
  • 55:01
    wait for the battery to ignite my house
  • 55:03
    I don't need that yesterday I saw some
  • 55:08
    guy go buying a one wheel Segway yeah
  • 55:12
    between his legs it well yeah but you're
  • 55:16
    but you're right like a skateboard so
  • 55:17
    you're sideways is between your legs but
  • 55:19
    you're sideways and the and the wheel is
  • 55:22
    parallel to the skateboard hmm that's
  • 55:24
    all we need more of that well I was
  • 55:27
    thinking about the ductless mobility
  • 55:30
    which is what we're talking about and
  • 55:33
    here's what I don't know so the
  • 55:35
    companies that are big in this are uber
  • 55:38
    and lyft and they've purchased pieces of
  • 55:41
    the big frontrunner bird and lime um and
  • 55:45
    knowing that the uber model itself only
  • 55:50
    is working because they're severely
  • 55:53
    undercutting the actual price of the I
  • 55:57
    mean they're selling rides below cost in
  • 55:59
    most cases unless they unless I use you
  • 56:02
    know the app I used to use on my phone
  • 56:05
    they go huh that's curry just you know
  • 56:06
    do times five because that's how they
  • 56:09
    price their rides you know Tina will use
  • 56:11
    an app and she'll get the same ride for
  • 56:13
    less same with Airbnb and all that stuff
  • 56:15
    but you know they're really not making
  • 56:19
    any money on any rides I think they're
  • 56:21
    losing about a billion dollars a quarter
  • 56:22
    and the reason they're still around is
  • 56:24
    because they've been able to get some
  • 56:26
    you know new group of idiots for you
  • 56:28
    know the the fifth round of investment
  • 56:30
    to put money in so they can keep it it
  • 56:32
    isn't bit a bit like a Ponzi scheme or
  • 56:35
    at least its it's a scheme where they
  • 56:37
    just need to keep pumping money and to
  • 56:38
    keep afloat you agree with the with this
  • 56:42
    assessment because I want to make sure
  • 56:43
    I'm seeing it right because I've no I
  • 56:45
    don't you think they're making money you
  • 56:47
    think they're profitable there are
  • 56:49
    reports around that float around the
  • 56:51
    investment community that show that you
  • 56:53
    can if you set up one of these bull crap
  • 56:55
    operations you you're in the black get
  • 56:58
    within sixty days what I'm talking about
  • 57:00
    cars first not about the bikes I'm
  • 57:02
    talking about the cars no I don't know
  • 57:05
    anything about the financing of that
  • 57:07
    that's where they're losing a billion
  • 57:08
    dollars a quarter as my understanding so
  • 57:10
    they've bought into this what you
  • 57:13
    believe is it profitable or you've heard
  • 57:15
    can be a money-making operation but I'm
  • 57:18
    just gonna go you know whatever happened
  • 57:20
    to or whatever yeah whatever happened to
  • 57:24
    we had the big bike sharing startups in
  • 57:28
    China it was exactly the same thing they
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    had two billion initially in venture you
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    have then eight eighteen months they
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    started to start to really catch fire
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    and then more people came in and then
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    more money and they started to acquire
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    each other and then they had an IPO one
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    of them raised four billion dollars in
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    IPO and now these companies are all done
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    broke there's huge mountains of these
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    bikes that are just you know just piled
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    up because it out of business they're
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    not using to the homeless I don't think
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    they have homeless in China
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    oh no homelessness no job so I mean it
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    wouldn't invent and and yeah and what
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    happens investors just stopped stopped
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    investing well you don't seem to be able
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    to make a return and this was on the
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    scooters and the bikes so I don't know
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    it just doesn't seem like him you got a
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    lot of people in China if you can't make
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    it work I remember pictures of China
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    there were more bikes than we thought in
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    Amsterdam I was like oh these people
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    really have a lot of bikes then you
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    remember the video the old via film
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    footage of the oh here's Beijing and
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    people on bikes everywhere they couldn't
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    make it work I'm not so sure I every
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    time I'd you know if there's an uber I
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    just don't invest in this well no but
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    also yeah I think the whole system just
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    it's doesn't seem sustainable well if
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    you think about it does
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    right to have this though this crap
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    Langer you know buying all these things
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    and then having them laying all over the
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    place it just doesn't seem like I
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    haven't come to pick them up and charge
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    him yeah yeah it's expensive expensive
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    yes that's gotta cost money and yeah now
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    downtown Austin they have a new problem
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    whenever one of these bikes is or these
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    scooters is his parked in the middle of
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    the sidewalk there seems to be someone
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    going around and putting his boot and
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    bending the disc brake on the back
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    is a disk brake on the back yeah exposed
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    disc brake very thin and it's apparently
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    if you put your boot on it while it's
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    lying down you can bend it and then the
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    wheel won't go rendering the whole thing
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    inoperable someone is doing that
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    downtown some vandal is doing that I
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    have no idea and I bet you the police
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    aren't interested in catching him either
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    no no no we have other things to do sir
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    yes I'm not sure what we got to go
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    protect the ground for the soccer
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    stadium make sure no one's peeing on it
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    something like that always something
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    that's awesome that's the thing that's
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    always overlooked in these great utopian
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    schemes is that is the preponderance I'm
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    not talking about just occasional I'm
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    talking about preponderance of vandalism
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    that's why we have the police we have
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    weight I mean to just admit just humans
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    in general have especially in Frida
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    freedom-loving countries we have a
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    preponderance of vandalism just go you
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    can drive through any city and look at
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    all the graffiti it's all good vandalism
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    even though there's a lot of art in
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    there but now in Austin in Austin we
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    have a we call it graffiti a graffiti
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    park and we call it art where it's
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    really just a bunch of it's a place
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    where there's some run-down buildings
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    where kids have smoking dope and
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    drinking and spray-painting the wall but
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    in Austin it's art well there are pieces
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    I've seen I've collected some actually
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    of graffiti that is art it's a very
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    specific style of art and it's very
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    pretty and but that's not what most of
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    it is most of it is these you know that
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    they call throw up sand and just tags
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    and just a mess
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    well clearly it's beatniks who are doing
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    this in Austin so they're taking a law
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    into their own hands and with that I
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    would like to thank you for your courage
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    and say in the morning to the man who
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    put the C in COBOL John C Dvorak any
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    morning you mr. Adam curry also in the
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    morning all ships to see boots on the
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    ground feet in the air subs in the water
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    and all the dames and nights out there
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    and in the morning to our troll room and
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    all the trolls taking refuge there at
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    the time being which seems to be more
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    than I expected actually must have some
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    finger snapping beatnik freaks in the
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    troll room but we appreciate you guys
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    showing up for this end of year show and
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    stream com also in the morning - Darrin
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    O'Neil brought us the artwork for
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    episode 1098 we titled that one climate
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    grief and he made a no agenda gift card
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    with everything that goes along with it
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    and it was a nice piece and it was
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    something that came up in the show we
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    were talking about the gift card scam
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    and we already used the climate grief
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    title and so what really was the best
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    piece of art although I think there
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    again were some other good ones
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    yeah we it was a yeah usually you
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    remember I said I usually remember yeah
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    let me see what it was no there was some
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    good there was some there's something
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    really good that we liked in the last
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    show all right well let's thank a few
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    people meanwhile no agenda art generator
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    calm
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    we appreciate it Darren thank you so
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    much sir Neville James of Bray Park Hill
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    in Australia came it with no note and I
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    get a note him but he couldn't get a eg
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    always she's probably I don't know what
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    he's doing it what time is it there
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    anyway $710 will read his note when he
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    comes in later he did have a note for
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    the last time he donated a substantial
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    amount and it was he did one I don't
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    well is rerun his old one yeah hold on a
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    second John I'm having some spreadsheet
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    issues here this is very funny what
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    happened well this is very odd so it's
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    it's just uh I can't even explain it
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    it's a Windows thing the only way I can
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    view the spreadsheet is if it's
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    completely filled the screen because if
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    back to my then it's just a teeny teeny
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    away here I grabbed it okay my goodness
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    Windows is a trip alright I'm here with
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    you what do you need what do you need
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    he needs a just a Putin jingle don't
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    worry be happy and just keep up the good
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    work okay
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    we
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    and no karma well keeping karma to me
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    this came in in August so this is real
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    you've got karma yeah hopefully that's
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    the Feist for him yeah you made come in
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    with a note later Joe Agner three
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    we say whatever he wants how is Joe
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    Wagner three ninety dot eighty a Happy
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    New Year John and Adam and to all the
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    woke a snow agenda listeners if my math
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    night accounting attached your show is
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    worth more than every penny that got me
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    there's a backstory there I'm sure I
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    would like to know what it is but it's
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    not too much trouble please add candy
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    and Astroglide to the round table that's
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    candy with a small C okay throw some
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    health Karma toward the n/a community
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    I look forward to another year of shows
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    you've got karma this is a good a good
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    one for mr. Robert gusik High Point
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    North Carolina $333 integers I'd like
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    you to read this thing we have to sort
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    through something I am very pleased to
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    let you know that the Carmi requested
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    for my back surgery worked awesome yes I
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    only had a very minor infection but
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    other than that my incision has healed
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    surgery and the actual surgery results
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    surgery I had such severe leg pain I
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    could only stand for about 30 seconds
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    and walk about 20 feet before I
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    collapsed wow I'd been in a wheelchair
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    for nine months after the surgery right
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    when I woke up in the recovery room I
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    could tell if the pain was completely
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    gone in my legs I've been slowly
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    recovering getting my strength back very
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    carefully until the fusion sets in then
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    I'll be able to start physical therapy
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    so now not only is no agenda help me
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    with my mental well-being and strength
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    the Karma has also helped me get through
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    a very rough spot in my life I'm proud
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    high point
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    accounting attached yes I'm steadfastly
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    hitting people in the mouth and I'm
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    learning which slaves are beyond
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    recovery yeah it's sad when you see that
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    isn't it it's terrible and those who
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    still are receptive to logic and clear
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    thinking as provided by the No Agenda
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    show yeah yeah I may not always agree
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    with everything that said what you don't
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    have to say because we don't but I no
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    longer am a slave to the m5m and instead
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    I'm doing my own thinking for myself and
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    it feels amazing
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    I am so happy to hear this - robber
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    gusik that is fantastic
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    we can't take credit but I know somehow
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    when a lot of people are thinking about
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    you things do happen so I'm glad the
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    Karma at least you feel good about it
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    your mental health is saved and you will
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    become a baron did he give a
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    where's High Point North Carroll High
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    okay well I'm gonna give him me just a
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    follow-up karma dosage here you've got
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    karma already baronet test Susan Johnson
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    and Hillsboro Oregon 33333 and she sent
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    us a check with a note happy New Year to
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    you both
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    it's been a while since you've heard
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    from me as I have been busy sitting in
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    the in my new place I'm finding other
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    times to listen to you as I know is the
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    longhand moment as I noticed was me as
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    pretty and as I no longer have the long
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    commute this really hurts us by the way
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    people that lose their long it does
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    thank you for being steady faithful and
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    important voices in this crazy world
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    many times an associate executive
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    producer I am happy to finally be an
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    executive producer
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    here's to 2019 Cheers thank you very
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    much Susan Johnson from Hillsborough she
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    got some jingles that should have give
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    them to you okay what do you what do we
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    got
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    pew-pew you can get that mm-hmm boom
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    Shakalaka Adam you found a little girl
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    one have you found a little girl one
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    yeah you know what I here's the problem
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    it's I don't think it was a little girl
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    yeah was I have it it was Knicks kid
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    that's what I got okay boom yeah we got
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    pew pew boom Shakalaka and there's just
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    a little girl yay and then karma oh just
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    the yay yeah just the right we'll do
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    that
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    you've got karma that is a little girl
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    it's a new search thing it's that it's
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    everything what it's call again I just
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    like that one you haven't played for so
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    long which one's a little gory yay yeah
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    no no not that I mean the boom shocka
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    like what was I thinking oh the
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    broomshakalaka's
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    okay boy I do have something I want to
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    interrupt I have a when I was going
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    through this over whatever happened to
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    mm-hmm I ran into a an old I so that I
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    don't think we play for years and years
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    and I don't even know if he ever played
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    it at all but his hands clapping thumbs
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    up
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    pants flapping thumbs up yes I
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    definitely played that it's a good one
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    it's a it's a classic
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    it's a classic hands clapping thumbs up
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    what was that from again I think from a
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    screen reader that was looking at the
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    mode emojis remote emoticons hmm could
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    be yeah yes yes hands fly yes you're
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    right hands clapping thumbs up yeah that
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    would be the emoji read yeah sir
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    Roderick veal oh and Amsterdam here we
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    go to 5555 Wow
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    there are our sister podcast over there
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    and get mo nation lowlands tpo in the
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    morning John and Adam my level of urine
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    donation for the best actually can you
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    read this one using your Dutch voice I
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    don't want to insult our royalty are
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    very sir Roderick V low feel oh we
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    wouldn't probably think it's funny no
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    the best podcast in the universe thanks
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    for this sometimes hilarious the
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    construction work and your valuable and
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    funny insights twice a week I heard
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    she'd shown 1098 about nuke
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    as an ignored exit or less co2 a very
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    clear voice on this matters the American
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    author activist Michael Shellenberger he
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    explains the fear propaganda and his
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    pro-nuke views in a great TED talk we
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    don't we don't like till excited yeah
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    but and he says in an interview he did
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    with him in Amsterdam okay so amazed I
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    got a link which we'll put in the show
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    notes have a great 2019 with all of us
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    yes thank you sir Roderick V low and
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    definitely if you're in the lowlands
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    check out TPO podcast and I will take a
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    look at this this interview I'm looking
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    forward to it and thank you for your
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    support of the show you guys have been
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    great
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    sir Finch and does associate executive
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    producer 234 dollars in 56 cents thank
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    you for the excellent year of shows in
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    2018 some of which is your best work uh
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    wishing you both a happy healthy and
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    prosperous New Year's needs some Pete
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    club kárma please yes or Finch not sure
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    what it is but I'll load it up you've
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