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1098: Climate Grief

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 46m
December 27th, 2018
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Executive Producers: Baronet Sir Anonymous Chiner, Anonymous, Baronet Sir Mark Milliman, Kyle From Cincinnati, Sir Michael Halbe, Randall Schaible, Christopher Bede, Archduke Sir Thomas Nussbaum

Associate Executive Producers: Sir David Drews, Sir James Williams Knight of the Paradise Star, Roy ten Have, Fakeologist

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

0:00
Start of Show
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2:38
JCD's TWiT Appearance
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4:48
Funny Computer Ads in the NA Newsletter
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6:33
Trump Criticized For Not Visiting Enough War Zones
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7:39
Untitled
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11:59
Russia Launches Hypersonic Missile
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16:10
US General Services Administration Plans Big Move in E-Commerce
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18:04
Democrats Criticized Obama For Not Pulling Syria Troops in 2011 and 2014
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22:46
Protests in Tunisia After Journalist Set Himself On Fire
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25:31
The Democratic Republic of the Congo Postpones General Elections in Three Areas
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27:38
Real Issues in the Democratic Republic of Congo General Elections
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31:56
Wesley Clark on Syria Withdrawal: "Did Erdogan Blackmail the President?"
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35:52
Mattis Served on Theranos' Board of Directors
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39:19
Washington Post: "Assad's Government is Doubling Down on Executions of Political Prisoners"
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40:05
Turkey's Threats Against Greece
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41:01
Poland Seals Deal to Buy Liquefied Natural Gas From US
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42:08
JCD's Delayed Christmas Celebration
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42:41
2020 Election Candidates
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55:00
Stocks Rebounds After Trump Tweets to Buy the Dip
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1:02:00
Credits
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1:28:21
AC Starts Using the InterPlanetary File System
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1:33:38
Gatwick Airport Traffic Disrupted by Drones
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1:40:01
FTC Warns Consumers About Netflix Phishing Email Scam
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1:41:07
Gift Card Scams
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1:46:38
Swedish Teen Schools World Leaders on Climate Change at COP24 Climate Summit
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1:49:19
Climate Grief, the Growing Emotional Toll of Climate Change
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2:03:02
4 Cancer Charities Are Accused of Fraud in 2015
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2:04:06
Banks Manipulated Foreign Exchange Market in 2014
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2:05:39
New York Magazine: "How Much of the Internet Is Fake?"
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2:07:19
Donations
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2:16:15
Title Changes
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2:18:07
New York State Senator Dies of Sepsis
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2:19:09
Congress Exposes Repeated Violations of Smith-Mundt Act
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2:21:28
Democracy Now Talks About Weapon Manufacturer Boeing
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2:23:38
Economics with Richard Wolffe
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2:28:19
UK Bans Puppy and Kitten Sales by Pet Shops
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2:29:32
Pet Owners Ruin AC's Pet-Friendly Apartment Building
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2:31:12
Ford Enters Austin E-Scooter Market
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2:35:53
Commercial Whaling to Resume in Japan
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2:37:10
Most Plastic Pollution in the Ocean Comes From Asia and Africa
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2:39:30
US Weather Report
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2:40:18
End of Show
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    about what was really inside the box
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    one clip of it yeah Trump goes to Iraq
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    wars oh wait a minute we didn't have a
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    bunch of war zones then so now they've
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    normalized war zones yes yes of course
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    call with pachán ik
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    intelligence yeah and he had a couple of
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    interesting things to say I'm gonna pick
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    generals are out Kelly and mattis
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    because yeah we really counted on them
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    Kelly hung in as long as he could
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    because he just could not handle what
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    bachina calls Woody Woodpecker which is
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    how he categorized his Trump okay
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    if it's a psychological or mental
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    concept of idealization and realization
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    as a personality well I guess you'd say
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    recognize this immediately when he said
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    is he that best ever or what within a
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    couple down the road two weeks when you
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    do something he doesn't like it's
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    hire that guy what an idiot why did is
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    like a classic Silicon Valley CEO what's
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    interesting because I said it sounds
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    like every New York Jew I've worked with
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    well he's a Jew and he said yeah that's
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    that's exactly it it said it's New York
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    attitude but it's he calls it the
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    idealization and realization personality
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    trait yeah yeah so yeah that makes
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    nothing but since I like it but it is
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    difficult he he believes that the new
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    guy the chief of staff what's his name
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    Shanahan no no no that's that's the
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    Department of Defense chief of staff
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    guy's name is unmemorable yeah that guy
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    pathetic says he will not last through
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    2020 this is impossible
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    no one can deal with that now the new
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    guy Shanahan he likes him a lot for a
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    number of reasons
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    he says this guy well actually you know
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    mattis mattis also hung in as long as he
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    could and then he just gave up it was
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    just just like and he didn't have to
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    really do you know he had a couple more
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    months left but yeah well according to
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    some reports which I put I hinted at in
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    the in the rundown that I did uh Pompeo
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    told maddest that he was that Trump was
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    gonna fire him
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    that's when mattis write the note mm-hmm
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    and quit right and nobody so and the
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    media picks it up on as the media likes
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    to twist it in their way which is Oh
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    Trump pull out of Syria and of course
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    that's important to us the media cuz
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    we're all war mongers and think we
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    should be in Syria of all places with
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    our troops who cares about I mean it's
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    honest doesn't hurt me right so Trump
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    pulls out of Syria thus matters quit and
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    disgust
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    yeah well that of course is the story
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    and it looks good you can read it that
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    way and it may be exactly that but but
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    genic is very happy with Shanahan coming
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    in and he believes Trump understands
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    this he is MIT Boeing cyber guy he
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    understands a lot more than an old dog
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    like mattis who understands kinetic
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    warfare force structures going out
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    blowing shit up tanks troops etc yeah
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    that is all shifting and Shanahan will
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    shift this big responsibility and maybe
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    focus I'd be interested on the
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    geospatial intelligence agency because
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    it's all about I quote cyber satellites
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    and missiles
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    that's what warfare is cyber satellites
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    and missiles everything else is pretty
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    much unimportant and of course the the
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    Russia supersonic missile comes into
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    play here Sonny
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    the hypersonics is we the u.s. appears
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    to be not able to deter that until well
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    it's all kind of like its demo where as
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    far as I can tell right now I do a
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    report you can play okay what you got
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    hypersonic hypersonic supersonic
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    President Vladimir Putin testing a new
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    intercontinental missile and President
  • 12:09
    Donald Trump's metal from a Moscow
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    command center Putin watched the
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    hypersonic missile
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    leave its launch tube and according to
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    the Russians strike a target 3000 and
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    700 miles away
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    declaring it invulnerable to intercept
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    russia says it can be armed with a
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    nuclear weapon and travel up to 20 times
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    the speed of sound without confirming
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    the results of today's test the Pentagon
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    has acknowledged that America is
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    vulnerable we don't have any defense
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    that could deny the employment of such a
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    weapon against us adding urgency to the
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    Pentagon's own plan to develop an
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    American version the hypersonics is a is
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    a game-changing technology so important
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    for us to for us to embrace and how far
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    are we from actually shielding that
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    technology ourselves so I think we'll
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    put a hypersonic system in the field
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    before 2023 Russia first started their
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    hypersonic missile and March with an
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    animation showing warheads flying
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    towards Florida both offensively and
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    defensively the United States military
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    is working very hard on hypersonics we
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    are in an arms race his new missile is a
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    perfect New Year's gift for the country
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    Hans Nichols NBC News the Pentagon
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    here's the thing about all that first of
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    all after supersonic we now have
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    hypersonic you know that whatever Trump
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    comes up with it'll be warp speed but
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    guarantee you warp speed is how fast we
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    fly space force think about these
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    missiles is if you can control the cyber
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    side of it if you can get into systems
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    then you can then you don't need to be
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    able to shoot the thing out of the sky
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    because it's going so fast so this is
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    it's really moving towards a whole new
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    battlefield I think the whole thing is
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    bogus
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    first of all hypersonic is nothing new I
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    remember and I'll give you the story
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    then I first heard of and I think they
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    experimented with a hypersonic missile
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    the air force I believe in the 80s and
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    the reason I say that is because when I
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    wrote the book hyper growth with Adam
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    Osborne that's where I got the term from
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    uh I used hyper growth was by coined it
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    based on I saw a hypersonic missile test
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    in the 80s and I said that's a great
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    name for
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    something super fast and so I took the
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    term so that so this is something
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    there's something basically bogus about
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    this whole thing it looks like some sort
  • 14:38
    of an excuse to spend more money it
  • 14:41
    wouldn't surprise it wouldn't surprise
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    me and I think we've discussed this
  • 14:47
    before if Putin and Trump are just you
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    know talking to each other all right man
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    do that demo that you have of the of
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    that hypersonic thing so we can both
  • 14:54
    start building some more and do a little
  • 14:56
    more get some more money out of our of
  • 14:58
    our government coffers
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    it would make nothing but sense and the
  • 15:02
    other thing is when they showed that
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    hypersonic launch if you looked at it
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    they actually put the camera on the
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    missile yeah I have seen missile
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    launches from our silos you can't get
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    that missile is out of range of the
  • 15:15
    camera immediately gotta be yeah goes
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    like a rocket right but so there's some
  • 15:23
    piece worried about this and it sounds
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    to me like us I hate to keep saying yeah
  • 15:28
    yeah but there's a scam here
  • 15:32
    oh we're way behind it with wait a
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    minute stop here we got the seven six
  • 15:37
    seven hundred billion dollar budget how
  • 15:39
    are we two or three years behind the
  • 15:41
    Russians don't look at the audit please
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    whatever you're doing now going back to
  • 15:47
    Shanahan he is an MBA and he might and
  • 15:50
    he did work for Boeing and it was part
  • 15:52
    of the 787 and some of these other major
  • 15:54
    projects now he might be able to do the
  • 15:57
    audit he's the kind of guy that would be
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    able to do it or at least clean up the
  • 16:02
    books and I don't think anything the
  • 16:03
    Pentagon cannot get through an audit at
  • 16:05
    all so maybe just clean it up and kind
  • 16:08
    of bring in some accountability speaking
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    of which I was reading one of those
  • 16:13
    government IT blogs that I'd like to
  • 16:16
    like to scan and the there's a there's a
  • 16:20
    procurement system that is out for
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    tender
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    oh yeah I get one of these things do the
  • 16:29
    generals the delicious mile-long of
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    stuff well the general service now this
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    is a little different the General
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    Services Administration is in the
  • 16:37
    process of creating an acquisition
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    platform as mandated by Congress from
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    the 2018 National Defense Authorization
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    Act so this this stuff is you know bits
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    done on PDFs it's done on you know Word
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    docs whatever the hell it was SharePoint
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    I don't know what they're using but
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    there was this mandate in the NDAA for
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    an e-commerce acquisition guess who's
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    been doing all the work on this
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    ecommerce acquisition platform you tell
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    me Amazon oh yeah Amazon's get their
  • 17:10
    fingers and everything no wonder they're
  • 17:12
    they're in virgin this is why now it
  • 17:14
    starts to become clear what's going on
  • 17:16
    Amazon is the government we're with the
  • 17:21
    CIA cloud services now with all a
  • 17:23
    cuisine
  • 17:26
    procurement platform yeah we should be
  • 17:30
    of just a rewrite of the Amazon code
  • 17:32
    that the shoppers use they just take
  • 17:34
    just white label there you go plug in
  • 17:37
    your products seems pretty good
  • 17:39
    they already advised on the portal
  • 17:41
    getting you just on the RFP they advise
  • 17:43
    once it's a shoo-in for these guys well
  • 17:46
    if you advise on the RFP yeah you your
  • 17:48
    adviser for yourself your pointing the
  • 17:50
    finger at you that's how our guts how
  • 17:52
    our process works that's the beauty of
  • 17:55
    government contracts I did want to if
  • 17:59
    he's becoming you look more like an evil
  • 18:01
    bond character yeah
  • 18:04
    just on the pull outs the pull outs of
  • 18:09
    Afghanistan and Syria I do have a bit of
  • 18:11
    a retrospective if you just want to
  • 18:13
    listen to the news from 2011 the world
  • 18:17
    is exactly flip-flopped please hear how
  • 18:21
    as we know now is Trump's pulling out of
  • 18:24
    Syria Afghanistan are screwing our
  • 18:26
    partners it's good Isis it's gonna be
  • 18:28
    horrible though more war need more war
  • 18:32
    need more stuff more missiles hypersonic
  • 18:34
    it was exactly the opposite with the two
  • 18:37
    parties in 2011 the US president has
  • 18:40
    been accused of ignoring the advice of
  • 18:42
    his top military commanders on troop
  • 18:44
    withdrawals from Afghanistan Barack
  • 18:46
    Obama announced that 33,000 troops will
  • 18:49
    be home by September next year military
  • 18:51
    chiefs say that plan is riskier and more
  • 18:54
    aggressive than the one they recommended
  • 18:56
    Republicans believe Barack Obama's
  • 18:58
    Afghanistan decision has more to do with
  • 19:00
    politics than military thinking were
  • 19:02
    there any of the Joint Chiefs or any of
  • 19:07
    the commanders on the ground that
  • 19:09
    recommended this particular action that
  • 19:13
    the president is taking I'm not going to
  • 19:15
    talk about individual recommendations
  • 19:17
    the chairman of the Joint Chiefs did
  • 19:20
    acknowledge that withdrawing 10,000 u.s.
  • 19:22
    troops this year wasn't his choice and
  • 19:25
    it was more aggressive and it has more
  • 19:27
    risk than you know I was originally
  • 19:29
    prepared to then I then I recommended of
  • 19:33
    course and Afghanistan commander General
  • 19:35
    David Petraeus told a Senate hearing it
  • 19:38
    wasn't his either
  • 19:39
    the ultimate decision was a more
  • 19:43
    aggressive formulation if you will in
  • 19:46
    terms of the timeline then what we had
  • 19:50
    recommended the US military leaders
  • 19:52
    sides their job to salute and execute
  • 19:55
    the president's orders any Republicans
  • 19:57
    are worried the coalition allies won't
  • 19:59
    hang around France and Germany plan to
  • 20:02
    follow the u.s. lead I predict you now
  • 20:04
    that our allies will accelerate their
  • 20:08
    reductions and presence in Afghanistan
  • 20:12
    for the most part our allies the
  • 20:13
    Australians others
  • 20:14
    are saying we're in it we're committed
  • 20:17
    the president was at Fort Drum thanking
  • 20:20
    Afghanistan veterans our job is not
  • 20:23
    finished
  • 20:23
    many Democrats wanted Barack Obama to go
  • 20:26
    much further and are still hoping the
  • 20:28
    drawdown will only accelerate my my oh
  • 20:33
    my oh my drawdown even faster I guess so
  • 20:42
    they want us to put people back in and
  • 20:46
    those Democrats and then in 2014 the
  • 20:49
    President Obama at the time came into
  • 20:52
    the route to the Rose Garden
  • 20:53
    bringing America's longest war to an end
  • 20:57
    President Obama called reporters to the
  • 20:59
    White House Rose Garden to lay out his
  • 21:01
    plan for pulling out the 32,000 US
  • 21:04
    troops now left in Afghanistan America's
  • 21:07
    combat mission will be over by the end
  • 21:10
    of this year starting next year I just
  • 21:12
    noticed in the first report they talked
  • 21:14
    about 33,000 magic number we're always
  • 21:17
    looking forward in reports and then in
  • 21:19
    this one we've lost the thousands now
  • 21:22
    left in Afghanistan or was it it was 30
  • 21:24
    2002 the 33
  • 21:26
    I don't know has any significance to lay
  • 21:29
    out his plan for pulling out the 32,000
  • 21:31
    US troops now left in Afghanistan
  • 21:34
    America's combat mission will be over by
  • 21:37
    the end of this year o garden next year
  • 21:39
    Afghans will be fully responsible for
  • 21:41
    securing their American personnel will
  • 21:46
    be in an advisory role we will no longer
  • 21:48
    patrol Afghan cities or towns mountains
  • 21:51
    or valleys that is a task for the Afghan
  • 21:55
    people Afghan forces have been in the
  • 21:58
    lead against insurgents since last year
  • 22:00
    and the 9800 US troops will stay to
  • 22:03
    continue training them and to support
  • 22:06
    counterterrorism operations and of
  • 22:08
    course that pull out also didn't happen
  • 22:12
    so that's what it was when um Obama was
  • 22:16
    president and everyone was on board and
  • 22:18
    I think we were all so like yeah good
  • 22:20
    get him out drawdown stupid stop were
  • 22:25
    staunch anti-war
  • 22:28
    is bogus Wars death for the poppies
  • 22:34
    there's a pop yes mostly yeah but it
  • 22:37
    feels a bit like there maybe well we'll
  • 22:41
    get to that in a moment there's war
  • 22:43
    there's war starting everywhere well
  • 22:46
    this I'm not quite sure why this was
  • 22:48
    thrown out there and why the script has
  • 22:51
    been replicated but it has people can be
  • 22:54
    seen lighting things a fire this has
  • 22:56
    been taking place all throughout this
  • 22:57
    week there have been numerous clashes
  • 22:59
    and numerous people who have been
  • 23:01
    arrested and they are revolting against
  • 23:04
    the poverty in the country and this all
  • 23:06
    started after a journalist has said that
  • 23:08
    he was going to light himself on fire he
  • 23:10
    posted a video that it'll bring up here
  • 23:12
    where he talked about how he had been
  • 23:14
    trying to find a good job for the last
  • 23:17
    eight years without any luck
  • 23:19
    this is in Tunisia where the Arab Spring
  • 23:22
    started in this video you can actually
  • 23:24
    see him holding a bottle of gasoline he
  • 23:27
    says he's going to light himself on fire
  • 23:29
    and he's calling on the unemployed to
  • 23:32
    take to the streets to revolt we later
  • 23:34
    see in another video that he is lit on
  • 23:37
    fire and he ended up dying it's unclear
  • 23:39
    whether he lit that match himself or if
  • 23:42
    someone else did but what we have seen
  • 23:44
    are these mass protests in Tunisia as a
  • 23:47
    result and some people say that this is
  • 23:48
    actually reminiscent of what we saw in
  • 23:51
    2010 remember this man the Tunisian
  • 23:53
    street vendor who set himself on fire to
  • 23:56
    protest against police harassment and
  • 23:58
    that led to revolts not only in his
  • 24:01
    country but of course all throughout the
  • 24:03
    Middle East well in the 8 years since
  • 24:05
    that happened in the 8 years since the
  • 24:07
    Arab Spring began this journalist says
  • 24:09
    that nothing has changed in his country
  • 24:12
    and in his words that everything is lies
  • 24:16
    and that is why he is called his fellow
  • 24:18
    Tunisians to take to the streets to
  • 24:20
    revolt against the economic conditions
  • 24:23
    in his country now this was a report
  • 24:25
    from AFP French international outfit
  • 24:29
    right and they have lots of what he
  • 24:33
    called interests in the region yes a
  • 24:36
    French was a French outpost actually
  • 24:39
    exactly but they have interests in the
  • 24:41
    region in the region as well and so now
  • 24:44
    we have a dirt and out-of-work
  • 24:45
    journalist who hasn't been able to
  • 24:47
    work for what he's a eight years but he
  • 24:49
    says yeah we don't know who he is we
  • 24:52
    don't know who he worked for we don't
  • 24:53
    know if someone lit the match or if he
  • 24:55
    did it I don't even know if it's him in
  • 24:57
    the video but someone's trying to get
  • 24:59
    something started yes this looks like a
  • 25:03
    pro a provocation and what's interesting
  • 25:05
    about this and this is of course you're
  • 25:07
    right as a fractal of the earlier events
  • 25:09
    which started the Arab Spring is that
  • 25:14
    Muslims aren't the ones their self em'ly
  • 25:16
    latest it's the Buddhist that do that
  • 25:21
    yes fractal so we find the whole thing
  • 25:26
    suspicious and interesting
  • 25:30
    well this there's stuff going on in
  • 25:32
    Africa
  • 25:34
    yeah first of all the Congo was supposed
  • 25:37
    to have their election today yeah I have
  • 25:40
    a clip oh good I do - what do you have I
  • 25:42
    have a of P again because they're all
  • 25:44
    over this no I think it's yes I see PBS
  • 25:49
    behind me I wanna listen also today
  • 25:51
    Congo delayed elections in three cities
  • 25:53
    where a deadly Ebola outbreak is
  • 25:55
    centered the cities are considered
  • 25:57
    opposition strongholds and the delay
  • 25:59
    will affect some 1 million voters they
  • 26:02
    will now wait until March to cast
  • 26:04
    ballots the rest of the country votes on
  • 26:06
    Sunday that's their entire report yes
  • 26:10
    that's PBS it's only gonna give you that
  • 26:13
    is your PBS news that's all that didn't
  • 26:15
    even mention what's what's going on now
  • 26:19
    this isn't this is incredible well might
  • 26:22
    be I got the main stream to review yes
  • 26:26
    the real story yeah to review I've been
  • 26:28
    following the election that we've been
  • 26:30
    following the Congo in general whenever
  • 26:32
    Ebola shows up that's usually when
  • 26:34
    troops follow we haven't seen that
  • 26:35
    happen yet but in this particular region
  • 26:38
    is where very important minerals are
  • 26:41
    mined for everyone's cell phone there's
  • 26:43
    a less than most oil in all of Africa
  • 26:45
    apparently comes from the Congo
  • 26:48
    there's always strife there the Chinese
  • 26:51
    are running Rambo's oil actually comes
  • 26:53
    from Nigeria I thought that they have
  • 26:56
    the most oil it may not all come from
  • 26:58
    there but I think they have the most
  • 26:59
    it's no very it's not as each research
  • 27:02
    gone but definitely own the minerals
  • 27:06
    they own the minerals gold diamonds and
  • 27:08
    there's you know 50 million around
  • 27:11
    killing each other it's all about power
  • 27:12
    to get these minerals as cheaply as
  • 27:14
    possible whoever leads the country will
  • 27:16
    be the king and whoever funds the the
  • 27:19
    king rules and where they had the voting
  • 27:22
    machines which I want to bring in the
  • 27:24
    population staunchly against it call
  • 27:27
    them you know the lying what they call
  • 27:30
    them the maybe in this report they see
  • 27:33
    them as not real that's not the way to
  • 27:35
    go rap and of course you don't want
  • 27:37
    touchscreens anywhere there's Ebola but
  • 27:39
    there's also that the reports from our
  • 27:40
    on France press about the election
  • 27:42
    doesn't even mention Ebola if is if I
  • 27:44
    can recall stall
  • 27:45
    the Democratic Republic of Congo where
  • 27:47
    opposition leaders have slammed the
  • 27:49
    postponement elections country had been
  • 27:51
    due to vote this Sunday in a poll it was
  • 27:53
    hoped would end the two year old crisis
  • 27:55
    over the future of President Joseph
  • 27:57
    Kabila
  • 27:57
    on Thursday the Aussies Electoral
  • 28:00
    Commission ordered the poll be put back
  • 28:01
    a week in order to replace voting
  • 28:04
    equipment lost in a warehouse fire
  • 28:06
    Alliance of the parties backing
  • 28:08
    opposition wait for as that any further
  • 28:11
    delay will not be accepted yeah we know
  • 28:14
    very well that this delay has nothing to
  • 28:16
    do with the reasons put forward by the
  • 28:18
    Electoral Commission to give us excuse
  • 28:20
    after excuse that one day they'll run
  • 28:22
    out of excuses to their excuses Felice
  • 28:27
    GC Katie told the supporters to remain
  • 28:29
    calm in the next few days but the 30th
  • 28:31
    of December is redline according to the
  • 28:34
    u DPS a red line that shall not be
  • 28:36
    crossed otherwise the militants would
  • 28:38
    take the matter in their own hands
  • 28:40
    without waiting for the party's
  • 28:42
    instruction according to the
  • 28:43
    secretary-general meanwhile on Friday
  • 28:47
    Joseph Allen Gong Co the president of
  • 28:49
    the government Commission's charged with
  • 28:51
    monitoring the elections preparation
  • 28:53
    urged the authorities to accept the UN
  • 28:56
    help to deploy voting materials across
  • 29:00
    the country so that the election can be
  • 29:02
    held on the 30th of December meanwhile
  • 29:05
    several people have been killed after a
  • 29:06
    plane chartered by DRC's National
  • 29:09
    Electoral Commission crash near Kinshasa
  • 29:11
    the Antonov 26 operated by the company
  • 29:14
    go mare was a returning to the capital
  • 29:16
    of delivering election results forms the
  • 29:19
    central city of her Chi Kappa have been
  • 29:21
    at varying accounts the number of people
  • 29:23
    on board and the number of casualties
  • 29:26
    while PBS omits the fact that two-thirds
  • 29:30
    of the voting machines burned in a fire
  • 29:32
    and that people from the Election
  • 29:35
    Committee died in the fiery plane crash
  • 29:37
    than they had election forms on board
  • 29:40
    Wow looks like they'll just vote early
  • 29:44
    unbelievable yes really man that is BS
  • 29:48
    nowadays weather I don't know what what
  • 29:51
    completely happened but they've turned
  • 29:53
    into a very
  • 29:55
    I think it's like not even in on par
  • 29:58
    with NBC News it's well if they were NBC
  • 30:01
    at least would be something to laugh at
  • 30:03
    this is not even funny
  • 30:04
    now this this may have something to do
  • 30:06
    with China this is what I keep referring
  • 30:08
    to but I really can't find you know
  • 30:11
    anything that points to them directly or
  • 30:13
    who the key I mean we're obviously a
  • 30:15
    player in in this fight I don't know who
  • 30:17
    were with or what side were on but China
  • 30:19
    is now moving into the next phase of
  • 30:22
    their no Road three belt strategy and
  • 30:26
    because Kenya could not repay a loan the
  • 30:31
    China infrastructure loan the Chinese
  • 30:33
    had given to them they now have taken
  • 30:35
    possession of Kenya's main port economic
  • 30:39
    hitman bigger this is huge oh they just
  • 30:43
    do it differently yeah no no bloodshed
  • 30:47
    yeah I think people will know this but
  • 30:51
    in general hey just give them given
  • 30:54
    offer they can't refuse that they
  • 30:55
    actually can't even fulfill and then
  • 30:59
    take over whatever you need
  • 31:02
    you know they took over the deport yeah
  • 31:04
    it just came out just came out over yeah
  • 31:07
    well well that should be interesting the
  • 31:12
    geopolitics in China or China and the
  • 31:14
    reference I was just fascinating yeah so
  • 31:18
    anyway so maybe now is the time to send
  • 31:20
    in troops for you know the Ebola issue
  • 31:23
    yes unless unless it's going the way we
  • 31:27
    want it I mean it would have to be
  • 31:30
    not not for Kenya but I mean for for the
  • 31:34
    for the Congo for DRC it probably is
  • 31:37
    going the way we want it to go
  • 31:41
    I don't know what the point that put the
  • 31:42
    troops abroad just to serve some other
  • 31:44
    function I don't know all right well at
  • 31:48
    least we're on it
  • 31:50
    you know if somebody is I'm like abs PVS
  • 31:53
    been unbelievable then we have Wesley
  • 31:59
    Clark showing up in the news again maybe
  • 32:03
    if you're gonna run for president again
  • 32:05
    well that's an interesting point that's
  • 32:08
    a reminder about Wesley Clark he told
  • 32:11
    this story a few years after 9/11 about
  • 32:14
    something that happened to him in the
  • 32:15
    Pentagon two weeks after 9/11 where he
  • 32:19
    received the following briefing we call
  • 32:21
    it the West Clark 7 so I came back to
  • 32:25
    see him a few weeks later and by that
  • 32:28
    time we were bombing in Afghanistan I
  • 32:29
    said are we still going to war with Iraq
  • 32:31
    and he said oh it's worse than that
  • 32:33
    he said he reached over on his desk he
  • 32:35
    picked up a piece of paper he said I
  • 32:36
    just he said I just got this down from
  • 32:38
    upstairs meeting the secretary defense
  • 32:40
    office today and he said this is a memo
  • 32:42
    that describes how we're gonna take out
  • 32:44
    seven countries in five years starting
  • 32:48
    with Iraq and then Syria Lebanon Libya
  • 32:50
    Somalia Sudan and finishing off Iran so
  • 32:54
    that was the plan that plan is probably
  • 32:56
    still on the books but here he is
  • 32:59
    speaking of the pullout which of course
  • 33:01
    he would be staunchly against although
  • 33:03
    Syria wasn't on his list he understands
  • 33:05
    how the neocon war machine works and
  • 33:07
    he's a part of it general let me start
  • 33:09
    with you CNN reporting that the abrupt
  • 33:12
    decision to withdraw from Syria that
  • 33:14
    started this cascading events occurred
  • 33:16
    after the president spoke with turkish
  • 33:18
    President Erdogan and essentially said
  • 33:20
    take it it's yours we're out Turkey is
  • 33:23
    part of the NATO coalition that you once
  • 33:25
    led how concerned are you about this
  • 33:28
    process or lack thereof and the
  • 33:30
    essential giving seating of influence to
  • 33:33
    Turkey and presumably other actors in
  • 33:35
    erdowan orbit
  • 33:37
    well I'm very concerned because it
  • 33:39
    doesn't seem to be any strategic
  • 33:40
    rationale for the decision and if
  • 33:42
    there's no strategic rationale for the
  • 33:44
    decision you have to ask why was the
  • 33:46
    decision made I can tell you that people
  • 33:48
    around the world are asking this and
  • 33:50
    some of our friends and allies in the
  • 33:52
    Middle East are asking well did did
  • 33:54
    order one bail the president was there
  • 33:56
    payoff or something what is it why would
  • 33:59
    a guy make a decision like this because
  • 34:01
    all the
  • 34:02
    was did air21 blackmail the president
  • 34:05
    was there a payoff the president
  • 34:08
    recommendations were against it and it
  • 34:11
    looked like that all the facts are
  • 34:13
    against it - were not quite finished
  • 34:14
    with Isis we're not taking a lot of
  • 34:16
    casualties over there the Kurds have
  • 34:18
    been reliable allies why do this huge
  • 34:23
    casualties the American taxpayer right
  • 34:25
    now and this is the the matter that's of
  • 34:29
    most concern or should be most concerned
  • 34:31
    - all says what does this say about the
  • 34:33
    foreign policy of the United States that
  • 34:35
    were not reliable that we make strategic
  • 34:38
    decisions based on no strategic logic so
  • 34:41
    what kind of person is driving the helm
  • 34:44
    that's the issue but this is a political
  • 34:47
    issue not a military issue Jim mattis
  • 34:50
    took a political post in this
  • 34:52
    administration his job was to support
  • 34:54
    the president the United States when all
  • 34:56
    the chips are down he couldn't do it he
  • 34:58
    left trumps now replaced him all that is
  • 35:01
    in the court is with the way it should
  • 35:02
    be the odd man what you're completely I
  • 35:11
    wasn't quite sure exactly I mean is this
  • 35:13
    the truth wants to come out or let's
  • 35:15
    just listen to that last bit again I
  • 35:16
    found it incomprehensible not a military
  • 35:20
    issue Jim mattis took a political post
  • 35:23
    in this administration his job was to
  • 35:25
    support the president the United States
  • 35:27
    when all the chips are down he couldn't
  • 35:29
    do it he left trumps now replaced him
  • 35:31
    all that is in the court is with the way
  • 35:34
    it should be interesting that is the
  • 35:37
    debt must be a truth should come out
  • 35:39
    thing not quite quite sure it's a this
  • 35:42
    is okay what he what he may be saying is
  • 35:45
    mattis is out and that's the way it
  • 35:46
    should be we needed him out of there
  • 35:49
    for something else or we needed the
  • 35:50
    other guy in the Madison's not getting
  • 35:53
    any work anywhere I mean I put it very
  • 35:55
    made it very clear in the newsletter and
  • 35:57
    I'll reiterate this one of the points he
  • 35:59
    was a board member and made a big point
  • 36:02
    of being aboard the board of theranos
  • 36:06
    the perhaps the biggest scam in Silicon
  • 36:10
    Valley history and he's on the board of
  • 36:12
    directors this guy and that's because
  • 36:15
    and I'm I I kind of accuse him of being
  • 36:18
    a sucker for the blondie that ran the
  • 36:21
    place it was a I batter you know hyena
  • 36:24
    with the big debate you know I have a
  • 36:26
    deep voice what that means I'm sexy and
  • 36:28
    so and on top of it you know you have to
  • 36:32
    remember this guy is a bachelor he he
  • 36:35
    proposed to one woman ever and she at
  • 36:38
    the day of the wedding or just before
  • 36:40
    the way she called it off what I didn't
  • 36:42
    know this about matters nine so he's got
  • 36:48
    a Napoleonic complex and he is not a guy
  • 36:53
    that you just assume that not have him
  • 36:55
    even working in the position of
  • 36:58
    authority like that because he's
  • 37:00
    unstable yes he got dumped but he got
  • 37:03
    dumped on his wedding he got run around
  • 37:06
    by this by Elizabeth Holmes and made a
  • 37:10
    fool out of himself he should have never
  • 37:12
    gotten a position of any sort after that
  • 37:14
    experience right what's she doing there
  • 37:16
    I didn't get couldn't see through this
  • 37:18
    scam that he was dealing with well the
  • 37:20
    problem with fairness or theranos is
  • 37:22
    that a lot of guys like that gut scammed
  • 37:25
    including : Powell he was in that group
  • 37:27
    as well on the board yeah guys who were
  • 37:29
    susceptible to some blondie you know but
  • 37:32
    bleached blonde let's make that clear uh
  • 37:35
    who likes to manipulate men hey
  • 37:39
    middle-aged men is very susceptible to
  • 37:42
    this if they're you know any bit you
  • 37:45
    know thinking of the feeling their oats
  • 37:46
    as it were let's see who else let me
  • 37:48
    just look at this board again
  • 37:51
    see who was on let's see who else is uh
  • 37:53
    is unfit yeah I believe anyone who was
  • 37:57
    on that board is unfit to have a
  • 37:59
    position of authority
  • 38:00
    Reilly missed the mark of the devil
  • 38:03
    you're out Reilly BEC tell
  • 38:06
    of the Bechtel group economic hitmen
  • 38:09
    Bechtel David Boies
  • 38:13
    the lawyer boys Schiller and Flexner
  • 38:16
    yeah old older guy William fooj former
  • 38:20
    director CDC Richard kovachev ik Wells
  • 38:26
    Fargo another crook
  • 38:28
    Fabrizio garlic rook what so you can't
  • 38:32
    call him a crook no okay I can't call
  • 38:34
    him a crook I was running a crap
  • 38:37
    organization yes yes okay thank you
  • 38:40
    I want to get sued Fabrizio bonanni
  • 38:43
    Amgen well that make sense and then
  • 38:46
    mattis so he was really that the board
  • 38:48
    is much smaller than I thought at least
  • 38:50
    that was the 2016 board yeah it may have
  • 38:52
    been bigger earlier because I was quite
  • 38:55
    sure that : Powell was on there
  • 38:59
    I think he has some association you know
  • 39:02
    Tim Draper did he was in love with her
  • 39:04
    and was was he still thinks she can make
  • 39:08
    a comeback what a character fantastic
  • 39:18
    yeah meanwhile The Washington Post is
  • 39:21
    doing their job to make Trump look bad
  • 39:23
    in this a headline in Syria Assad's
  • 39:26
    government is doubling down on
  • 39:27
    executions of political prisoners course
  • 39:32
    atrocities we need another ah we need
  • 39:34
    another Doctors Without Borders chemical
  • 39:38
    attack well the last time there was the
  • 39:41
    doctors a border thing I think it was
  • 39:42
    our troops that blew one of their
  • 39:44
    hospitals to smithereens remember that
  • 39:46
    yep the big of the big
  • 39:50
    for one of the big planes it has a lot
  • 39:52
    of guns on one side kept circling it and
  • 39:55
    pounding I have the old big plane gun
  • 39:57
    I've begun playing with a big play with
  • 40:00
    guns gunship also know that shit Turkey
  • 40:05
    also now making all kinds of moves
  • 40:07
    against Greece making noise this is so
  • 40:09
    much going when it comes to this you
  • 40:11
    don't even know how much this is
  • 40:12
    accurate though of what of all these
  • 40:15
    news reports well none of this do it
  • 40:18
    took is doing what with Greece well I'll
  • 40:21
    tell you what it's all well here's the
  • 40:23
    issue the issue is and I think as always
  • 40:27
    it's all about the energy in the
  • 40:29
    pipeline so we know that Israel wants
  • 40:30
    their pipelines to come up through
  • 40:32
    Greece there any of their Leviathan
  • 40:35
    filled turkey is in bed with Russia for
  • 40:38
    all of this and they want their Turks
  • 40:41
    stream to be the you know the thing that
  • 40:43
    brings everything in that they want to
  • 40:45
    stop all at all costs and South they're
  • 40:47
    talking about you know airspace who
  • 40:52
    owned Cyprus all this crap it's it's the
  • 40:55
    same stuff they always do but they're
  • 40:57
    making noise and they'll probably
  • 40:58
    position ships in the region or blow up
  • 41:01
    a pipeline meanwhile Poland I know if we
  • 41:03
    talked about it Poland isn't now signed
  • 41:05
    their third agreement with the u.s.
  • 41:07
    liquid natural liquefied natural gas to
  • 41:12
    afford their country instead of taking
  • 41:15
    gas from Russia through Ukraine
  • 41:18
    I don't know what the you know I the
  • 41:20
    poles do anything to get better visa
  • 41:23
    deal with us I guess it's gotta tell you
  • 41:25
    that's the one thing that Trump really I
  • 41:27
    don't understand why he won't let let
  • 41:29
    the polls be a part of esta you can just
  • 41:34
    need you just visit the US with a you
  • 41:36
    know with a quick online form he
  • 41:38
    promised it yeah but somehow they didn't
  • 41:42
    pushback from someone a lot of people
  • 41:44
    says the Israelis that would be Bachan X
  • 41:47
    conclusion as well
  • 41:51
    but hey he's trumps done enough favors
  • 41:56
    for the Israelis he can do this favor
  • 41:57
    for the poles yeah who's gonna who's
  • 42:00
    gonna tell are they gonna say Raley's
  • 42:02
    gonna turn on us if that deal is done
  • 42:05
    come on no I don't think so so what I
  • 42:08
    have seen in the in the mainstream by
  • 42:12
    the way how was your Christmas
  • 42:13
    was it good did you guys all together
  • 42:15
    were you up there where's people down
  • 42:16
    there what you do know everybody's
  • 42:18
    scattered around so our Christmas is
  • 42:19
    coming in about five days yes the
  • 42:21
    Dvorak's always celebrating on a
  • 42:23
    different date for every occasion you
  • 42:26
    guys kill me well you have the tree up
  • 42:33
    and everything still when y'all get
  • 42:35
    together yeah not great interesting
  • 42:40
    the news is and I think it's a mistake
  • 42:43
    but you know they believe it's the way
  • 42:45
    to go for ratings they're now all
  • 42:48
    pivoting after our end of year
  • 42:50
    retrospectives all pivoting to 2020
  • 42:53
    that's all about who's gonna be running
  • 42:55
    for 2020 they're just going to can they
  • 42:56
    believe that political news and I'm
  • 42:59
    talking about the three big mainstream
  • 43:01
    n5m news channels MSNBC CNN and Fox
  • 43:04
    that's all they seem to be able to talk
  • 43:06
    about three bees and a camel toe that's
  • 43:09
    right everybody that's who's running
  • 43:11
    Bernie Biden Beto and Kamala Harris
  • 43:17
    yeah but those are three that's four of
  • 43:20
    them there's a in fact of course we have
  • 43:23
    dozens of people running on both sides
  • 43:26
    because people think they can take out
  • 43:28
    Trump so we have losers like Kasich
  • 43:32
    going on about how he's gonna run
  • 43:35
    because he doesn't think this
  • 43:36
    president's doing well and the public
  • 43:37
    wants him huh I mean we did these guys
  • 43:39
    I've never seen so many delusional
  • 43:41
    people the only person that really if
  • 43:44
    we're gonna go ahead you know this is
  • 43:45
    the it's the well if Trump can win
  • 43:48
    anyone can win I can win realize that
  • 43:50
    Trump has been a high-profile character
  • 43:53
    that can win he gets votes because he's
  • 43:55
    so high-profile the only person like
  • 43:57
    that is Oprah right and they're
  • 43:59
    different and people say well Oprah can
  • 44:01
    not there's another one Tom Hanks
  • 44:05
    Tom Hanks's well I think he could do it
  • 44:08
    I think he could do it well here's the
  • 44:09
    problem with Oprah she would we know of
  • 44:13
    trump wanting to run for president says
  • 44:15
    the 80s he's always talked about it and
  • 44:18
    interestingly with the same agenda about
  • 44:21
    China it's fit has not wavered when it
  • 44:24
    comes to doesn't waver much Oprah was
  • 44:26
    never shown any interest in it at all so
  • 44:29
    she'd be forced into it so she's not
  • 44:30
    gonna do it Tom Hanks it's a lark he
  • 44:34
    just want to go through the grind of it
  • 44:35
    especially a Hollywood character with
  • 44:37
    all the still luggage does Hollywood
  • 44:39
    people have it be miserable right but
  • 44:44
    what I'm saying is the media has the
  • 44:46
    media has already chosen on the Democrat
  • 44:50
    side they've chosen the yes he had to do
  • 44:53
    they had to take a stamp because it's
  • 44:55
    part of the strategy to block Hillary
  • 44:58
    yeah and and every story after you're
  • 45:01
    right every story I've seen is followed
  • 45:03
    by 70% of Democrats don't want Hillary
  • 45:06
    anywhere near the word run
  • 45:09
    yeah which is a lie that's a lie
  • 45:13
    people who are screaming in the streets
  • 45:15
    after Trump won and we're gathered at
  • 45:18
    Javits and were in tears afterwards they
  • 45:20
    don't hate Hillary now
  • 45:23
    right
  • 45:26
    Rand Paul is paying there did their dare
  • 45:28
    just this is the skin not gonna use it
  • 45:31
    again this is a fraud Hillary is
  • 45:35
    probably the leading candidate if you
  • 45:37
    ask me
  • 45:40
    interesting she well she has yet to
  • 45:42
    raise her ugly head look how long it
  • 45:45
    took the first time because if she
  • 45:46
    doesn't raise her ugly head for a long
  • 45:49
    time she gets to gather a lot of money
  • 45:51
    and that money goes in a different
  • 45:52
    account so if she doesn't win anything
  • 45:54
    that money still is hers yeah I agree
  • 45:57
    though I have not seen I've not seen the
  • 45:59
    candidate that would would make it work
  • 46:01
    Biden four years ago I mean it's all
  • 46:06
    about appearance and and I'll say it
  • 46:08
    again that's how we elect our presidents
  • 46:10
    we buy our soap it's all the same way
  • 46:13
    it's gotta look pretty make you feel
  • 46:14
    nice and white out give you a nice smile
  • 46:19
    well if you remember the guy the CIA xgi
  • 46:23
    a guy who wrote that behind the scenes
  • 46:25
    book in the White House during the
  • 46:28
    waning years of the Obama administration
  • 46:31
    slammed Biden for being wrong on every
  • 46:34
    single topic it hasn't got a prayer
  • 46:37
    doesn't really matter it doesn't really
  • 46:39
    matter the president doesn't have to be
  • 46:40
    right especially if you're running it's
  • 46:42
    you know your sales guy
  • 46:46
    to sales guy in a poppy or mommy yeah
  • 46:49
    you have to sale sell past the media's
  • 46:51
    there's a real problem Rand Paul I think
  • 46:54
    is gonna make another run okay I think
  • 46:56
    he just does that for to keep his
  • 46:58
    profile i well but he's changed
  • 47:00
    something he's now he is honing his
  • 47:04
    tweeting skills I'm not kidding this
  • 47:08
    that you should look at his Twitter feed
  • 47:10
    look at he's you know he's standing on a
  • 47:12
    beach next to you know a bunch of sticks
  • 47:14
    looks like a bonfire but I guess you
  • 47:16
    could say it looks like a teepee and his
  • 47:18
    tweet is I came to say happy Festivus to
  • 47:20
    my friend Elizabeth Warren but I can't
  • 47:22
    find her I mean this he's trolling 'he's
  • 47:26
    going after Warren hey Street dub that's
  • 47:29
    a direct hit let's see what was the
  • 47:33
    other one
  • 47:34
    speaking of criminal justice reform I
  • 47:36
    have to give Jared Kushner credit he was
  • 47:38
    great on this and I'm glad I got to know
  • 47:40
    him because before that I was a bit
  • 47:42
    suspicious he was the kid from The Omen
  • 47:43
    movie all grown up that sounds like it's
  • 47:49
    professionally written yet a writer he
  • 47:51
    has a writer oh yeah
  • 47:55
    so he's and he was making fun of Ted
  • 47:58
    Cruz posting memes of Cruz with a crazy
  • 48:01
    beard and yeah that's I think he's
  • 48:04
    testing his Twitter skills he knows
  • 48:05
    where that is where the 2020 election
  • 48:08
    will be fought of course or whatever
  • 48:10
    Twitter feeds with her Twitter that's
  • 48:12
    what that's that's where you win yeah
  • 48:15
    rules are changed and he at least seems
  • 48:18
    to understand that I don't think he has
  • 48:20
    it in him I've always liked him kind of
  • 48:23
    well he's just the public will never go
  • 48:26
    for it we've been sold the American pose
  • 48:29
    been sold on a bill of war here's
  • 48:31
    Gillibrand on the the Van Jones show on
  • 48:35
    CNN she wants to run yo she does but she
  • 48:38
    kind of cuts herself out in the in an
  • 48:40
    odd way about what's right in the world
  • 48:43
    I do believe we should fight for each
  • 48:44
    other's kids as hard as my own I do
  • 48:46
    believe that we what is the issue with
  • 48:51
    saying I do believe what's the
  • 48:53
    difference between you saying I do
  • 48:54
    believe and saying I believe it would be
  • 48:57
    someone would say that because they have
  • 49:00
    the feeling idea or perhaps proof that
  • 49:02
    someone thinks you don't believe that
  • 49:07
    but there's no evidence of that she's
  • 49:08
    just saying I do believe I did Gauls but
  • 49:12
    I see a lot of professional athletes
  • 49:14
    through many of which many of whom are
  • 49:17
    borderline if not illiterate
  • 49:20
    despite their college degrees it's
  • 49:23
    rarely most of them quit cause because
  • 49:26
    they go to the pros and make all these
  • 49:27
    millions you know unlike the suckers are
  • 49:29
    stay in school kids there you go there's
  • 49:34
    Uncle John telling you like it is so
  • 49:37
    they did their border line your litter
  • 49:39
    and they say I do believe well so does
  • 49:44
    Jill Bryan I have a vision for America
  • 49:46
    about what's right in the world I do
  • 49:48
    believe we should fight for each other's
  • 49:49
    kids as hard as we fight for our own I
  • 49:51
    do believe that we should restore the
  • 49:53
    golden rule and actually care about one
  • 49:55
    another and I do believe no matter what
  • 49:56
    block you grew up on you should have a
  • 49:59
    chance this is a big thing this this
  • 50:01
    block you grow up on or zip code you
  • 50:03
    grow up in then I hear this everywhere
  • 50:06
    this pork this pork it you'll hear the
  • 50:08
    music
  • 50:09
    this poor child if only were born in
  • 50:11
    one-zip code over would have had a very
  • 50:13
    different life as if the physical place
  • 50:16
    my sister was born in Uganda a January
  • 50:20
    1st 1967
  • 50:24
    so you tell me you know that's a bad zip
  • 50:27
    code that's not the good zip code to
  • 50:30
    grow it but to grow up in for sure so
  • 50:32
    anyway there's a lot of that you should
  • 50:34
    have a chance to live out your god-given
  • 50:35
    potential and that means good schools
  • 50:37
    that are public schools you know jet
  • 50:38
    free college things that really make
  • 50:40
    opportunity possible so debt free
  • 50:42
    college another zinger I miss that the
  • 50:45
    first time oh that is that's a good way
  • 50:47
    of putting it that's a great campaign
  • 50:50
    line I like I believe in debt-free
  • 50:53
    college because you kind of just yeah
  • 50:55
    yeah yeah
  • 50:56
    I believe in debt-free homes I believe
  • 51:00
    in a debt-free car free college things
  • 51:02
    that really make opportunity possible so
  • 51:04
    I have that vision and so the question
  • 51:06
    is do I do that from a presidential
  • 51:08
    platform or do I do it from the US
  • 51:09
    Senate and that is the question I will
  • 51:11
    decide very soon we got a poll we should
  • 51:13
    put up with a did knows in that poll
  • 51:15
    that the top three were I think Biden
  • 51:19
    Bernie and bado threebees and all white
  • 51:24
    guys in a party as diverse as ours
  • 51:27
    it doesn't worry you to see the top
  • 51:29
    three being white guys yes I aspire for
  • 51:38
    our country to recognize the beauty of
  • 51:40
    our diversity in some point in the
  • 51:42
    future and I hope someday we have a
  • 51:44
    woman president I love the fact that
  • 51:47
    Barack Obama was our president for eight
  • 51:48
    years I hope more people of color not
  • 51:50
    only aspire and win the presidency
  • 51:52
    because that's what makes America so
  • 51:54
    extraordinary that where we are all of
  • 51:55
    that we are everything and I think a
  • 51:58
    more inclusive America is a stronger
  • 51:59
    America what is interesting to me is
  • 52:02
    here's Van Jones on CNN the actual
  • 52:06
    organization who has pre chosen the
  • 52:09
    three B's it's not like there's no one
  • 52:11
    else running to all we hear about is the
  • 52:14
    three B's in the camel toe that's all we
  • 52:15
    hear about three B's instead of saying
  • 52:19
    oh it's the party oh yeah see and then
  • 52:22
    maybe you should include some other
  • 52:23
    people on your list to give them some
  • 52:25
    exposure
  • 52:26
    yes it is I agree WAP Oh Times CNN CNN's
  • 52:31
    just I mean they they went all in very
  • 52:33
    quickly
  • 52:35
    and they seem to have dropped common
  • 52:37
    hair years before give me a break I'm
  • 52:41
    telling even the mh17 flight that was
  • 52:45
    lost after a year CNN finally just had
  • 52:48
    to give up I mean this too much you can
  • 52:52
    have too much Pro of one type of
  • 52:54
    programming the public will not either
  • 52:56
    look we've been in television a long
  • 52:57
    time John if you switch and every every
  • 53:00
    channel you go to is election this
  • 53:03
    election that it's going to get old
  • 53:05
    ratings will slip
  • 53:09
    yeah
  • 53:11
    I agree but maybe it's all just a deal
  • 53:14
    making stage for the for the ads hey
  • 53:19
    look we've been really good to you guys
  • 53:20
    we've we've you know we've done the
  • 53:22
    three B's and you know you might be
  • 53:25
    right it's almost like the network news
  • 53:26
    people that people I've said this before
  • 53:28
    we've talked about on the show everyone
  • 53:31
    but all those those network news it's
  • 53:33
    only old people who watch that in those
  • 53:36
    news things it's a dying audience
  • 53:38
    although nobody takes into account that
  • 53:41
    new people are getting old but that's
  • 53:43
    okay it's a dying audience is terrible
  • 53:45
    no the network news folk
  • 53:49
    appeal to the oldsters because they have
  • 53:52
    ads for them specifically lots of drug
  • 53:56
    ads aches and pains ads you know the
  • 54:00
    incontinence ads and all the stuff that
  • 54:03
    old people need so it's not like they're
  • 54:07
    doing it there they're screwing up and
  • 54:09
    what's interesting is that the
  • 54:11
    derivative of the audience they're
  • 54:13
    talking to and when I what I mean by
  • 54:15
    that is little clips that show up on
  • 54:17
    social media that's kind of a bonus you
  • 54:21
    know they know that they can't with a
  • 54:23
    straight face say to any ad agency your
  • 54:25
    media buyer yeah we got 18 to 24 we're
  • 54:28
    right here in the pocket they can't say
  • 54:29
    it cuz no one will believe them it's not
  • 54:31
    true they can say look we got to 55 plus
  • 54:34
    and that's a big market for pharma and
  • 54:37
    the derivative is just what is posted
  • 54:39
    online and circulates around these the
  • 54:42
    people who are looking at this are not
  • 54:43
    watching those channels they're just
  • 54:45
    taking the snippets and throwing it into
  • 54:47
    the outrage machine and feeding back and
  • 54:50
    just you know it's part of the big loop
  • 54:52
    it's really quite genius I mean not that
  • 54:56
    anyone's how they make money not that
  • 54:58
    anyone more money we do now before we
  • 55:02
    take a break I'd like to get your take
  • 55:05
    on the gyrations in the financial
  • 55:10
    markets because the funniest thing I saw
  • 55:13
    over Christmas was a tweet from the
  • 55:15
    president after we closed Christmas Day
  • 55:18
    with you know two days was it three days
  • 55:19
    down in a row and all horrible worst
  • 55:22
    christmas clothes ever the president
  • 55:24
    after minuchin has called the working
  • 55:29
    group on financial markets to see how
  • 55:32
    they're doing with cash
  • 55:33
    last time we used that name we called
  • 55:35
    him by their nickname the plunge
  • 55:37
    Protection Team we're working group on
  • 55:42
    financial markets that is the plunge
  • 55:43
    Protection Team yeah so he called them
  • 55:47
    with all this is said everyone into it
  • 55:49
    you know you just know santa rally let's
  • 55:52
    put it like that and then the president
  • 55:54
    the next day tweets if I were you but by
  • 55:57
    the dip my mind exploded he's doing by
  • 56:02
    BT
  • 56:03
    d by the dip everybody and it shoots up
  • 56:06
    a thousand points the next market day
  • 56:08
    think 1085 something like that it was
  • 56:10
    the most in history that was fantastic
  • 56:13
    he is the stock whisperer of course she
  • 56:15
    had to sell at the end of the day
  • 56:17
    otherwise she gets screwed I'm sure it's
  • 56:18
    down today's no no down estate look I'm
  • 56:21
    sure it is
  • 56:21
    I'm sure it is I think it was down three
  • 56:25
    or four hundred points at all this
  • 56:26
    morning it's yeah did you see best I've
  • 56:31
    heard the best commentary I've heard was
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    it's down 396 yeah the best commentary
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    I've ever heard was some some real
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    old-timer was on one of these financial
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    station shows and he says this
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    this is his computer training it's just
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    the way it works nowadays you have a
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    downward trend for a little while the
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    computers all jump on it and they they
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    position themselves that that it's gonna
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    go down you know what it is its
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    algorithmic amplification itself this is
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    exactly what it is
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    he says it's gotten exaggerated some
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    more exaggerated than ever because the
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    computers will push away down and then
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    it starts to go up and they they all and
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    then they all go nuts the computers in a
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    matter of form they all go nuts and
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    things skyrocket and then it goes down
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    it goes up good stuff it's crazy this is
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    like seems like the perfect time if you
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    have any clue about how they how it's
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    actually working it you can as a day
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    trader you should be able make millions
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    of dollars a year well get off cycle
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    your yeah you're done I think you can do
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    it on indexes but individual stocks is a
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    little more a little more complicated
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    because the out there's probably five
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    basic algos I've studied some of them
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    and you know some really dumb that'll
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    just go on on a certain time of day if
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    they're an upward motion but they
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    obviously they will they will suppress
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    price your true pricing
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    I think algorithmic amplification may be
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    the only thing
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    today's algorithms are really good at no
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    matter what it is
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    that's what we've seen on the social
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    media networks like what what do the
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    algos do this is a good point because
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    this is actually stems from the fractal
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    of the semiconductors and one of the
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    greatest things semiconductors could do
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    is amplify
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    it's yeah it is a fractal that's it it's
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    either compression or amplification they
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    can do that too
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    yes because the world that mean we love
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    mr. compression yeah well there's
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    different kinds of compression but
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    compression in time you know abstraction
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    of of operations anything that can be
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    compressed is its in it's in our human
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    DNA almost to want to compress things
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    but the amplification part yeah that
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    that is truly what computers do amplify
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    us decompress yeah huh modulate
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    demodulate well here's um Rick ferryman
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    binary baby this binary man is nothing
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    else to it
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    Rick Santelli from CNBC had his own take
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    on this Olson is the Treasury secretary
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    during the crisis you know at first they
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    were going to borrow three quarters
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    worth trillion dollars to buy toxic
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    assets that never materialized it
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    morphed on the fly things could get
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    messy I can't believe some of the
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    nuances though really they can't
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    understand that anybody would be worried
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    about liquidity I'll tell you what go
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    visit any major FCM in this business and
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    ask them how many hours a day they're
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    putting in what markets are moving like
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    this or talk about margin and leverage
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    for how many times Treasury secretary
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    minutiae was concerned about market
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    structure all the articles beginning in
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    December listen I understand every
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    nuance is the wrong nuance because the
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    message isn't really any of these
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    individual thoughts but what the
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    Treasury secretary is saying the issue
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    is quite simple the central banks of the
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    world propped up the stock market to a
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    point where it can sustain itself during
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    normalization and normalization of only
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    a few of the participants in the grand
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    liquefied scheme of things that is the
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    main issue the markets have to contend
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    with and they could point blame whatever
  • 1:00:12
    they want there's an oil industry that
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    does that and this president certainly
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    doesn't get the benefits of much de
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    what did he actually say
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    I have no idea I mean I kind of was
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    catching it then that the and he talks
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    about the president doesn't get
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    something and I don't know what he meant
  • 1:00:30
    by that
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    I don't know well yeah I think our
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    thesis here is actually quite a good one
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    because the end of year there's always
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    stuff going on there's a pension
  • 1:00:39
    institutional rebalancing thank you
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    chatroom troll room there's a number of
  • 1:00:45
    things but it's the algorithmic
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    amplification that gives you these wild
  • 1:00:49
    swings and we can probably look to see
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    this is something we need to be on the
  • 1:00:54
    lookout for anywhere an algorithm is
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    running let's see if we can find the
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    amplification because eventually
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    something has to break
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    yeah amplification for amplifications
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    sake is not the way to go that's why
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    audio amplifiers need a preamp with it
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    with a volume control on it you can
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    stick your pure stuff into the amp
  • 1:01:20
    straight up and then it just gets
  • 1:01:22
    blasted Blatt you blow your house up but
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    if you have a preamp which is a little
  • 1:01:27
    controller that says hey I mean I'm
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    gonna give you a little bit of this
  • 1:01:31
    juice not all of it
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    then it's it calms it down we don't have
  • 1:01:35
    a preamp for the economy interesting
  • 1:01:40
    what the Fed I guess would want to be
  • 1:01:43
    the dial Turner to dial their volume
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    control yeah the volume control they I
  • 1:01:48
    guess that's what they have that what
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    they feel their role is you know turn up
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    interest rates turn them down or inflate
  • 1:01:53
    the money supply little tone control but
  • 1:01:57
    then they know and with that I'd like to
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    say in the morning to you and thank you
  • 1:02:04
    to the man who put the C in compression
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    John C deck
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    I want to thank you and I want to thank
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    all the boots on the ground feet in the
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    air subs in the water and all the Dames
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    tonight's out there in the morning to
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    the troll room let me see how many
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    trolls we got here today let me just do
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    a quick little scan
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    Wow 896 that's not bad for a Christmas
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    week well in the morning to you trolls
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    good to see you got your troll poles
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    with you no agenda stream comm is where
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    you can always tune into the program
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    when we stream it live on Thursdays and
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    Sundays also I would like to say in the
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    morning to comic strip bloggers who
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    brought us the artwork for episode 1097
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    title of that - a sword and again lots
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    of art we chose this one because it was
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    it really does nice illustration it was
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    the White House and a bunch of
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    protesters in comics or bloggers true
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    form with his his comic comic strip
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    drawing and they were holding up the
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    protest signs such as peace sucks
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    stopped peace Trump do war not more war
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    let's do war Dan was very appropriate I
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    think for for the episode was there any
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    there was other art I think that art
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    that was okay it was good and wasn't
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    great but I personally like this one
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    because it had the it had the the tone
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    that were bitching about which is all
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    these Democrats and you just proved that
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    with some earlier clips yep
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    all these you know peaceniks war was the
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    only yeah it's not American enough to
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    know that one but it was good we
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    appreciated no agenda art generator calm
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    we always loved looking at all the art
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    the art is available for anyone to see
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    it is
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    a part of the value for value system
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    that we started here and we appreciate
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    the value that comics or bloggers
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    brought to the show with his art but we
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    do have you people think including three
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    whoppers at the beginning of the list no
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    that came in with a thousand dollars
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    plus whoa yeah let's start with us or
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    anonymous China wait a minute do I know
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    the anonymous China I don't think I
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    don't think I've ever heard of the
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    anonymous China no he's due no midnight
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    he's a nice and a knight yes but we
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    don't know who he haven't heard from him
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    for a while I don't think it was at the
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    meet up but he's in San Ramon California
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    so could easily become member of the
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    meet up 1098 whoa we have not had an
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    episode club member in a long time it's
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    been a number of months this being
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    episode 1098 I also noticed by the way I
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    did the priest dream art it is ten nine
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    eight as we count down the year ten nine
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    eight seven six five four three two one
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    yes exactly
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    anyway back to our anonymous China uh hi
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    John and Adams are anonymous China here
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    I've been a long time believe it or not
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    I'm still a loyal listener to your show
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    since twice a week after seven years um
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    this donation is for show ten nine eight
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    way to think about the amount is that
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    it's almost tax time again and form 1098
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    is the taxation form the IRS slaves like
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    me need to submit to deduct some of our
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    mortgage interest from our income huh
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    every day no I get go I see creases in
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    changed for me
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    knight to baronet Wow sir anonymous
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    China thank you very much this is
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    up an issue ok he's now a knight if he
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    wants to be but he says nothing about it
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    so did we just ignore this knighthood
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    and what have we done in the past
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    I thought the pr2 Commission yet the
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    Commission and committee had worked this
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    out many years they did too but I have
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    lost the memo
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    all right well we'll just let it slide
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    Thank You Liz but thank you was the
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    title he once yes or it could just be
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    her anonymous the trouble is there's too
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    many of those remark Milliman in
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    Longmont Colorado 1000 he wrote an email
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    and he donates all the time yes yes he
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    does anything we need to know oh yeah I
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    have it I loaded it up on the screen
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    morning gents from the high stoner lands
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    today it should be in the box by
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    Christmas Eve at the latest and this in
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    November and November 9th from
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    hachis f cancer he says I think I'll
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    take the executive producer ship but
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    this donation is from for my father so
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    okay I think I hit him I think I hit
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    Barron but I cannot find all the
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    receipts and I really don't pay that
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    much attention because it's more
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    important to keep the show alive also I
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    received tremendous value from it so the
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    value for value model works the show
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    means so much to me because it embodies
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    what my father taught me about
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    questioning what I see in here and not
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    to take things at their face value
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    technically I guess I'm a baronet since
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    I know I'm a knight and this doubles the
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    amount the other thing it's like the way
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    he's kind of frustrated by his by his
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    knowledge and he slips it in in an hour
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    he's in and out of consciousness it's
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    great uh
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    the other change is given since then was
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    a hundred here a hundred there no
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    jingles no karma I don't waste time with
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    do an F F F cancer yeah we'll do that
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    for sure right let me do it now it's
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    important about it
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    [Applause]
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    you've got car for anyone who needs it
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    thank you very much sir mark Milliman
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    yeah why don't you let us know if you
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    have a protectorate if you are a baron
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    and then we're gladly upgraded you
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    there's no rush then though it goes on
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