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1088: Three Chamber

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 44m
November 22nd, 2018
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Executive Producers: Tony Cabrera, Paul Love, Sir Daddy Cast of the Love House, David Slyker

Associate Executive Producers: Chris Stuart, Carrie-Lynn Latour , Mark Valentine

Cover Art by Uncle Cave Bear

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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0:53
Black Friday
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3:17
JCD's Zephyr Report
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3:41
AC's Travel Report
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8:44
The Netherlands Ties with Germany in Nations League Soccer Tournament
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10:46
The Story of Thanksgiving
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16:16
Presidential Turkey Pardoning
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22:31
Female Panel Discuss Trump on CNN Tonight with Don Lemon
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34:26
Dan Crenshaw Challenged over Trump at Face The Nation
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46:08
White House Threatens to Pull Jim Acosta's Press Pass Again
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48:18
Carl Bernstein Suggests Media Should Paste Together Coverage of Trump
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54:32
Alexandria Ocasio-Cortez Mentions the Three Chambers of Congress
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1:03:40
Credits
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1:21:41
AC's Skype Troubles
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1:24:27
Michael Bloomberg Donates $1.8 Billion to Johns Hopkins University
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1:26:17
The Netherlands Spends €600 Million to Combat Climate Change
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1:29:30
Mike Lee Speculates About the Next Economic Bubble
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1:38:31
Canada Announces $16 Billion Plan to Boost Competitiveness with the US
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1:41:02
Canada Helps Out Struggling Media Sector
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1:44:52
Grimerica PayPal Account Suspended
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1:45:58
Airbnb Takes Rentals Israeli West Bank Settlements Off Platform
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1:48:58
Bitcoin
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1:51:12
New Treatments for Severe Depression in Canada
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2:03:47
Donations
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2:13:34
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:15:37
Barack Obama Speaks About Mommy Issues at Obama Foundation Summit
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2:24:39
Ronen Bergman Describes Israel’s Secretive Assassination Program on Democracy Now
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2:34:54
MI6 Attempts to Stop Trump Releasing Classified Information Linked to Investigations on Russia
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2:36:55
Feces Used as Graffiti on San Francisco Sidewalks
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2:40:17
End of Show
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    I'm curry from Northern Silicon Valley
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    where we did miss this effort and it was
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    alright happy Thanksgiving and tell me
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    Thanksgiving do you and you and everyone
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    out there that will be celebrating
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    Thanksgiving everyone except the
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    Canadians who already had Thanksgiving
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    somewhere near the first of November
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    you know the Dutch we've talked about
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    this I just got back from my trip to the
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    Gitmo nation lowlands the Dutch you know
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    they love taking little traditions and
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    just taking they don't really like
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    America they think Trump is horrible and
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    you know we're all racists but
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    interestingly even though what we
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    already know they took Halloween the
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    Dutch have Halloween celebrations they
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    have Halloween parties it's not spelled
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    the same it's Halloween which is
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    entirely based on the movies that's why
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    they think it's cool hello hello but of
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    course the Netherlands has no
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    Thanksgiving since you know they were
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    not fortunate enough to kill the natives
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    of our country and you know to eat their
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    turkeys but they have all built the
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    whole thing from scratch but they have a
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    Black Friday now
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    which is tomorrow the same day notices I
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    noticed this is going on in England too
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    so we don't have Thanksgiving cuz you
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    know it's not our celebration not our
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    country but hey man we have Black Friday
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    for shopping hidden unbelievable
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    yes I noticed this last year when we
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    were anticipating Thanksgiving it looks
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    right at a blind they have a block
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    lighted and like Friday what are you
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    guys talking about
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    and is this can it can we somehow turn
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    this racist
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    would that be that would end it why is
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    it called Black Friday what is the
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    actual because it's the distant one day
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    of the year that the books go black they
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    go into the oh is that really the reason
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    yeah into the oh is that really the reason
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    it's not because we see tons of black
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    people piling on top of each other in
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    the Walmart that's about it
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    it's about this that one day where they
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    all of a sudden now these department
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    stores are in a profit mode
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    I'm good money now okay I don't think if
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    you went on the street and you asked
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    anyone went on the street and you asked
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    I don't think three out of ten would
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    know what he would over to have that
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    answer I never knew until I looked it up
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    there was some years back is it where
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    they call this Black Friday's kind of
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    disgusting that's when things are
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    supposed to go bad is Black Friday it's
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    when the market crashed yes black it's a
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    black that's a black day it's like a
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    dead that's a black day it's like a
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    yeah all of this way the books flip ah I
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    didn't realize that interesting well
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    they do have that such new on the no
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    agenda story yes yes you do yes car
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    train is part of these ten car trains
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    for the last week and I'm thinking as
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    I've been looking at these trains again
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    why are they ten cars all of a sudden
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    they've always been eight maybe nine and
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    it turns out that it was like yesterday
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    was the number one travel day of all
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    time I mean this is the time that
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    everyone travels apparently yesterday
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    was the big day just thinking to myself
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    what idiot would travel on a day like
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    that that would be me that's right I
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    came home yesterday although I was
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    traveling from from Gitmo lowlands
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    through London back to Austin so I
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    didn't really have the the you know the
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    National internal rush that we had and
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    it was actually it was booze okay but
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    let me tell you it what do you mean the
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    internal reach over the interim would
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    you know us or just domestic domestic
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    flights would they be tried there's no
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    Thanksgiving in Europe no but that's the
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    only thing that's the only thing that
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    was really messed up international
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    flights coming in there was no real
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    issue going to that going to a u.s.
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    Airport standing in u.s. airport line
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    that's what I'm saying I didn't I was at
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    the airport at five in Amsterdam to get
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    out believe me very calm at that time
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    of hope and then I flew to London you
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    know you London you go to terminal five
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    and you have to you stay within the
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    terminal but then you have to know stop
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    back up people the Netherlands people
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    answered an airport as you leave the
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    country this is new I have not seen this
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    before this is new I have not seen this
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    do you scan your boarding card you can
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    see the the customs guy right there
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    because there is a exit interview in the
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    Netherlands for your customs when you're
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    leaving they stamp you in stamp you out
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    but before that this is you know there's
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    gates and you have to stay a little
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    glass gates you have to go into a portal
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    like a subway station you scan your
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    boarding card and then it says look here
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    boom boom boom this is light flashing
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    off to the right you see yourself on the
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    camera and it's doing a complete you
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    know facial recognition scan almost
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    makes the sound um it blasted about
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    thirty seconds before it finally let me
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    in I had I took my glasses off I know
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    maybe it's good maybe that helped or not
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    they couldn't find me but it's your got
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    a scan of me you know if it wasn't
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    scanning it was making one I don't like
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    that this is that I don't understand
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    that's just that just can't appeared out
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    of the blue and of course that's after
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    you then slide your passport into their
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    little scanner so they're linking my
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    face with my passport now that you know
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    the passport doesn't have a picture
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    anyway then you go to London now you're
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    in terminal five you arrive in terminal
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    five and you want to do a transit so you
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    again you go through similar little
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    glass gates you scan your your your
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    boarding card and then you have to go
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    through security again have you ever
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    done this secure I don't know if I've
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    talked about this have you ever done the
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    security going back to the u.s. in
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    terminal five
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    at Heathrow because you have to do you
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    have to essentially go through a whole
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    security process again except these
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    agents are dicks there they're rude
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    they're just asses many of the women at
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    American agents know these are British
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    these are British and they are rude they
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    they treat you like you're an idiot
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    you know it's it's very to me it feels
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    the very chauvinistic Brits you know you
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    don't understand this prep I Spit on you
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    foreigner it's like just assholes I
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    really could really go to me and it's
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    like I've had this a couple of times
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    it's just like wow you know they gets to
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    the point where of course my bag has to
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    be ripped open but you know they're
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    really cavalier they walk back and forth
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    this excuse me I'm kind of waiting on my
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    bag then they give you a look and they
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    make you wait five more minutes yeah
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    that other other passing my bag in which
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    they've opened up and you know and they
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    should scuse me I need the space this is
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    that you just unpack this and I'm
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    packing it in yes yeah I need the space
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    you have to move repeat this passengers
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    fellow passengers saying you take your
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    time you know we will wait for her just
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    their passes and I saw every single I
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    had three hours later what is going on
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    with those people
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    ah those people
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    it's vets unbraid --is-- in a way this
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    is very unbreathing true brits but they
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    just treat you with disdain and I'm not
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    saying our TSA officers are any better
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    yelling at you but it's so surprising
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    because you don't expect it in the UK
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    anyway there you go
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    so what was my point well you were
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    talking about well we were trying to
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    discuss the tribulations of travelling
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    on the worst travel yes there you go
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    there you go so for me otherwise it was
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    fine just took forever to you land in
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    Austin you're you're right you're good
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    to go with the suitcase I don't know I
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    think they've already been pre checked
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    in London is that the idea yeah checked
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    all the way through yeah and then you
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    just get off and lost and you're done
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    well yeah you wait for an hour and a
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    half because when you when you are pre
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    checked you get that long transit
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    sticker and of course they put you I
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    guess somewhere way in the front or the
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    back of the plane and so your first on
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    and definitely last off with your
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    baggage missus just whatever I'm its
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    first world problems
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    however quick update sports no yes from
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    us over here in the San Francisco Bay
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    Area over here in the San Francisco Bay
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    the Warriors suck the Dutch as you know
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    they had trounced and humiliated the
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    World Cup winner France all they had to
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    do is had a have a tie score against the
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    Germans their second game against the
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    Germans and it looked like we were all
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    gonna have to jump off of the balcony
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    because it was they were to kneel down
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    at the half and they pulled it out of
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    their butts and tied the Germans in the
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    last minutes they came for their bikes
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    and they took back a wheel not the whole
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    thing but at least the wheel
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    very proud of the Duchess was a big deal
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    yeah yeah tying a game with Germany yes
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    and interesting that nil nil no it was
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    it was no it was to nil to to form is to
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    to there was to nil for most of the game
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    and then at the very Lin the very last
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    10 minutes they pull the one out that
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    doll do the Hat that's actually called
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    doing it it's never mind you're just
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    gonna scoff it doesn't matter I will no
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    I will no longer talk about the most
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    popular sport in the world I won't do
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    that sport in the world I won't do
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    what do you think it is the most popular
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    sport because the actions in the stands
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    or people beaten up each other no oh
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    it's a very simple sport that anyone can
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    play just need a ball and a couple of
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    sticks it's a it's a sport everybody can
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    pick up immediately you can't just you
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    need a basketball when your hoops to
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    play basketball and and this in soccer
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    football predates so many sports mystics
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    is an exciting sport just not on TV
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    well it's never gonna be good on TV as
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    you've pointed out before no advertising
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    no what you can't put if you can't put
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    it on TV they don't stop the game like
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    cannot put it on the TV all right back
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    just back to Thanksgiving for a moment
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    do we need to do the story of
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    Thanksgiving it's kind of a tradition
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    shorten it up a little bit yeah I'd like
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    you to give a quick recap and then I
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    have a great from an old column I wrote
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    in 2004 the term Thanksgiving was
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    brandished throughout US history and
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    officially codified by Lincoln in 1863
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    at the behest of an activist woman
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    writer named Sarah Hale before 1863
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    there was no Thanksgiving per se but a
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    lot of proclamations giving thanks for
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    this and that some some called
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    Thanksgiving there are virtually no
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    thanksgiving events from the Thomas
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    Jefferson administration until Sarah
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    revitalized the dying idea her rationale
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    was that Americans didn't have enough
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    holidays really she had the right idea
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    there the Lincoln Thanksgiving was
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    justified as a celebration of the
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    North's victory in winning the Battle of
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    Gettysburg and had absolutely nothing to
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    do with pilgrims or anything of the sort
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    that nonsense was all reverse engineered
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    by sentimentalists even the first
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    supposed to Thanksgiving in 1621 which
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    is kind of funny because I was reading
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    on Twitter about how suddenly George
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    Washington is now the inventor of
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    Thanksgiving is now the inventor of
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    it never ends it never ends this
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    changing story of the fake thanksgiving
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    thanksgiving for 1621 there's a
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    three-day one-shot party modeled after
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    something called the harvest home it
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    wasn't called Thanksgiving harvest home
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    was the end of the harvest party
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    celebrated in parts of the British Isles
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    this party didn't happen again in fact
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    most of these invited Indian guests to
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    the 1621 event were later butchered by
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    the growing population of settlers
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    Thanksgiving anyway good there's other
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    examples of these one-shots and it was
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    Lincoln who made this is never just the
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    last of the story lincoln who made it a
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    yearly event also made it stick to the
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    fourth Thursday in November it only
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    changed I get this it only changed for
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    two years during the Franklin Roosevelt
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    administration and moved up a week in
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    hopes of stretching believe this this is
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    a fact and in hopes of stretching the
  • 13:05
    Christmas buying pattern Oh an extra
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    week I believe that that makes that it
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    totally sounds American helping the
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    economy it was already a known fact that
  • 13:16
    Thanksgiving was the kickoff to
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    Christmas buying a slew of half-hearted
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    traditionalist and that he get these
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    traditionalists found the Roosevelt
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    change an abomination census somehow
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    insulted pilgrims or the DAR oh who
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    knows who and it was changed back after
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    a couple of years of bickering right so
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    let's think so Thanksgiving is bogus and
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    now we have a new thing which is the
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    addition to the old story of this thing
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    called friendsgiving what oh yeah this
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    is height look it up oh this sounds like
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    a social justice warrior move well what
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    it what it's supposed to be this got two
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    things going on with it one of them is
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    slightly slightly one of them is
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    extremely disgusting if you look it up
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    in the urban dictionary a definition
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    number for friendsgiving is where you
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    dip your nuts into the turkey gravy and
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    film it and then serve the gravy and
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    then show people the film like a couple
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    weeks late
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    John you need to get another column or
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    something because you're spelling that's
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    too much time on the internet looking at
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    weird shit man this has got a stuff so
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    friendsgiving is which is you'll see the
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    term a lot used especially this year is
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    the idea that you have friends over as
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    though you never did friends over for
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    the Thanksgiving feast
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    instead of or in lieu of or in place of
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    family Oh
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    Thanksgiving means family friends giving
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    means friends because we hate the family
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    yeah oh gosh yeah and above the balls in
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    the net the net friends giving and
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    seeing his yeah I I'm not gonna have any
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    gravy I was not supposed to even do a
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    show today but you know seeing is you
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    were only thinking of yourself yeah here
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    we are
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    here's how it went we I'll tell you the
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    story from my perspective now we got to
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    move on I was pretty convinced we had
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    discussed having a best of interview
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    show on Thanksgiving this year and John
  • 15:19
    had done one interview with the mooch
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    and I think we're gonna do another one
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    or it was kind of a little bit a couple
  • 15:25
    lined up it was a little unclear but was
  • 15:27
    pretty sure we're gonna do a special
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    show and then John was all like well I
  • 15:32
    don't have to cook anyway no one's
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    coming over so I'm screwed I'm just
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    we're gonna do a show I'm like yeah I
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    have I have a people coming you didn't
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    consider me for one second
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    really so UK you could've just said no
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    the reason is right I tried you went nah
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    man no okay the real reason the real
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    reason is that we've got show 1089 33
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    square right coming up the next show
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    this Sunday and I think we needed to
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    tease it this is just a promotional
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    episode episode
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    I forgot I I now I understand I'm
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    completely on board let me then move
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    into this do you have any idea when
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    their tradition started of the United
  • 16:22
    States President pardoning a turkey for
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    Thanksgiving President pardoning a turkey for
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    I'm glad you asked because I'm assuming
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    now that you know no I don't you did
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    some research I know no I believe it's
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    the the first president might have been
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    no I don't know I did the reason I don't
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    know is because I did not look it up
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    because I don't care and it's a totally
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    fake event and it's something every
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    president does every single year and
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    it's spot open Trump wait wait just be
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    quiet spot open Trump wait wait just be
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    it's fun it's like it's fake it's
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    make-believe it's like Santa Claus it's
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    like black Petes it's like it's just
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    fake fun can the news media today just
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    play along just for one day just play
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    along for one day with the fake that
  • 17:08
    everyone knows is fake without insulting
  • 17:10
    or without pulling some other crap into
  • 17:13
    it you know the orange man bad no it
  • 17:16
    doesn't seem to be possible I cut out
  • 17:20
    all the ceremonious stuff just got you
  • 17:22
    the intro and the outro the president is
  • 17:25
    actually about to take the podium at the
  • 17:27
    White House we're going to go ahead and
  • 17:29
    listen in there at this Rose Garden
  • 17:30
    event it's actually the turkey pardon I
  • 17:33
    mean you can't make this up happening at
  • 17:36
    this moment the fact that she starts off
  • 17:39
    by saying you can't make this up I'm
  • 17:42
    like wait a minute is this something new
  • 17:44
    did they not know the president does a
  • 17:46
    fake pardoning of a turkey
  • 17:50
    I mean you hear that aren't you set up
  • 17:53
    and and very interested as to why then
  • 17:56
    this year is different I was that
  • 18:00
    introduction makes it sound very
  • 18:02
    singular that Obama never did it or Bush
  • 18:04
    never did it or Clinton never did it or
  • 18:06
    Kennedy never did it or Johnson never
  • 18:08
    did it and I was I was even more
  • 18:12
    surprised by what it was all about
  • 18:13
    president is actually about to take the
  • 18:15
    podium at the White House we're going to
  • 18:17
    go ahead and listen in there at this
  • 18:18
    Rose Garden event it's actually the
  • 18:20
    turkey pardon I mean you can't make this
  • 18:24
    up happening at this moment let's listen
  • 18:26
    you seated good afternoon everyone a
  • 18:31
    very special day at the White House we
  • 18:34
    are thrilled to be joined today and
  • 18:43
    there you have it president Trump
  • 18:44
    pardoning the Thanksgiving turkey the
  • 18:47
    annual tradition peas the name of this
  • 18:49
    turkey and just the most unusual
  • 18:51
    dichotomy here as this comes on the
  • 18:54
    heels of a statement that the president
  • 18:56
    has put out essentially pardoning Saudi
  • 18:58
    Arabia and the crown prince in the king
  • 19:01
    there despite what I mean if you if
  • 19:04
    that's you have to now take the
  • 19:08
    pardoning of a turkey and say what an
  • 19:10
    unbelievable dichotomy as he's
  • 19:13
    essentially pardoning Saudi Arabia from
  • 19:17
    their atrocities that is the biggest
  • 19:20
    sharp junk.just sharp jump I've ever
  • 19:23
    seen and well for the stop on that that
  • 19:28
    subject matter for one second which is
  • 19:34
    Trump says that he had a briefing from
  • 19:36
    Gina the head of the CIA and I guess
  • 19:39
    somebody at the FBI guy or someone and
  • 19:42
    he says they don't know really what
  • 19:44
    happened now there's no report did you
  • 19:46
    see a report yet was there see no report
  • 19:48
    but yet all these news media outlets
  • 19:50
    keeps saying the CIA the CIA the CIA
  • 19:53
    citing some mysterious report based on
  • 19:57
    is apparently someone at the Washington
  • 19:59
    Post saying it's that it exists the
  • 20:02
    Washington Post published yeah it exists
  • 20:05
    it's coming according to people familiar
  • 20:07
    with the process according to sources
  • 20:09
    who could not be identified according to
  • 20:11
    sources who do would not speak on the
  • 20:13
    record because they were not authorized
  • 20:14
    to do so
  • 20:15
    this is it's so easy these days just
  • 20:18
    print a headline say I got some sources
  • 20:20
    and B the Washington Post and you can do
  • 20:22
    whatever you want and now this is has
  • 20:24
    contaminated the fake turkey pardoning
  • 20:29
    call the dichotomy because he's
  • 20:32
    pardoning a real nation although there's
  • 20:35
    no actual pardon there's no pregnant
  • 20:37
    presidential pardon going to Saudi
  • 20:39
    Arabia pardon going to Saudi
  • 20:40
    this is you know they only have
  • 20:42
    sovereignty over Saudi Arabia that we
  • 20:44
    can pardon anybody do they not see the
  • 20:47
    irony of this or are they just trying to
  • 20:49
    be followed the public or no but it's
  • 20:54
    still not too far away from the
  • 20:57
    sovereignty we must seem to see over
  • 20:59
    Julian Assange is not even American
  • 21:01
    citizens right we're gonna they've
  • 21:04
    indicted him for some reason that
  • 21:06
    somebody's that we used to die trend and
  • 21:08
    people that did are Australians while we
  • 21:10
    indict random Russians
  • 21:12
    yeah we did right we died amateur random
  • 21:15
    Russian sir it'll never show up except
  • 21:18
    for the one so boating except for the
  • 21:20
    one guy that actually said it yeah I'm
  • 21:21
    going taking you to court
  • 21:24
    you know they don't know what to do
  • 21:26
    about that
  • 21:27
    well as couple Russians come over here
  • 21:30
    on the diamond ask for discovery that'll
  • 21:31
    take care of that problem
  • 21:34
    so and it's being in Europe for a week
  • 21:37
    you release you can almost see these
  • 21:40
    little cyclones of outrage that are just
  • 21:43
    spinning around yeah you don't and the
  • 21:44
    whole different time zone so you get the
  • 21:46
    news and it's just very different and I
  • 21:48
    was receiving it in a very different
  • 21:49
    manner I wasn't on Twitter incessantly
  • 21:51
    you know just you know reading some
  • 21:53
    stuff you know getting snooze stories
  • 21:56
    from people and you can just see it's
  • 21:58
    all it's so much about nothing and then
  • 22:00
    you know it's all it's all like this
  • 22:01
    turkey story it's all like oh no this ha
  • 22:07
    and now we have to assure you yes that
  • 22:10
    if Trump I thought I was actually
  • 22:12
    convinced and I was regretful that he
  • 22:15
    didn't drop this stupid idea and I can
  • 22:19
    assure you that if he had said no we're
  • 22:21
    not doing that dumb
  • 22:30
    hmm well I did want to do a little
  • 22:33
    segment here I have two clips because
  • 22:35
    I've noticed a very distinct narrative
  • 22:39
    that's taking place a conversation and
  • 22:41
    the conversation goes something like
  • 22:43
    this I like what Trump does I hate the
  • 22:47
    way he does it except it's a little
  • 22:48
    different we're now talking about we're
  • 22:50
    talking about policy versus style style
  • 22:55
    you see and this is now it's kind of be
  • 23:00
    use as a defense
  • 23:01
    so Trump supporters which by the way are
  • 23:05
    called Trump supporters around the world
  • 23:07
    it's not Trump voters or Republicans or
  • 23:10
    people who like him even in in Holland
  • 23:13
    it's or in the UK I was in both over the
  • 23:17
    past week Trump supporters Trump
  • 23:19
    supporter what does that even mean
  • 23:21
    Trump supporters well they have another
  • 23:23
    term that they used here a lot which is
  • 23:25
    called the base the base yeah yes well
  • 23:33
    this is policy versus style and you'll
  • 23:36
    hear people who do favor the president's
  • 23:39
    policy often saying but I disapprove of
  • 23:43
    his style and this came up in - I'm
  • 23:47
    trying to think which one to play first
  • 23:49
    actually I'll do this this was Don Lemon
  • 23:52
    it's a rather long clip but I really
  • 23:55
    think it's interesting the conversation
  • 23:57
    was between four women
  • 23:59
    we had a white Democrat a white
  • 24:04
    Republican a black University of
  • 24:08
    Berkeley professor of history Stephanie
  • 24:10
    Rogers and we had black Don Lemon so
  • 24:13
    four women are on the panel and I know
  • 24:18
    it's just meaning me to say that but I
  • 24:19
    can't help it
  • 24:20
    they're all coffee coffee clutching and
  • 24:22
    the assertion from the professor of
  • 24:26
    history Stephanie Rogers
  • 24:27
    is that women white women actually have
  • 24:31
    have have been a part of the white
  • 24:34
    supremacy and institutional racism that
  • 24:37
    has that dominates all things unfair in
  • 24:41
    our country
  • 24:43
    and although not everyone agrees
  • 24:46
    ultimately it comes down to how he says
  • 24:49
    stuff or what he says versus policy and
  • 24:52
    then we'll kind of wind that up with a
  • 24:54
    with a with an MSNBC clip but first just
  • 24:58
    listen to this because it's but the
  • 25:00
    whole conversation is just intense to me
  • 25:03
    when it comes to divisiveness through
  • 25:06
    racism definitely you you are quoted in
  • 25:08
    this Fox article is saying for centuries
  • 25:10
    white women have invested in white
  • 25:13
    supremacy because their whiteness
  • 25:15
    affords them a particular kind of power
  • 25:17
    that their gender does not explain what
  • 25:19
    you mean by that so you see this is a
  • 25:22
    pretty loaded topic right off the bat so
  • 25:25
    as a historian I explore white womens
  • 25:28
    economic investments in the institution
  • 25:30
    of slavery white women I gotta stop this
  • 25:33
    white men women's investments in the
  • 25:35
    institutional what does she say the
  • 25:37
    institutional institution so as a
  • 25:43
    historian I explore white women's
  • 25:46
    economic investments in the institution
  • 25:47
    of slavery white womens economic
  • 25:49
    investments in the institution of
  • 25:51
    slavery very small minority of people
  • 25:54
    that had slaves in the south at well not
  • 25:57
    a much momentary but it wasn't minority
  • 25:59
    manometer economic investment economic
  • 26:02
    that means they're putting money into it
  • 26:04
    or I think what she might be headed
  • 26:07
    toward is that well now you have slaves
  • 26:09
    you don't have to do the dishes and what
  • 26:12
    that has led me to understand is that
  • 26:15
    there's this broader historical context
  • 26:17
    that we need to keep in mind when we
  • 26:18
    when we're looking at white women's
  • 26:20
    voting patterns today and as we look at
  • 26:23
    you know their their support their you
  • 26:25
    know overwhelming support of Donald
  • 26:29
    Trump when when a professor is trying to
  • 26:31
    explain such a heavy topic as this and
  • 26:34
    laughs right off the bat white womens
  • 26:38
    support of Donald Trump's I mean this is
  • 26:41
    a jail right there because the white
  • 26:43
    women's support of Donald Trump was 51%
  • 26:47
    like a major deal hahaha
  • 26:49
    voting patterns today and as we look at
  • 26:52
    you know their their support their you
  • 26:55
    know overwhelming
  • 26:56
    a supporter of Donald Trump and so tell
  • 27:01
    us that laugh tell yeah but it's not
  • 27:04
    okay than this topic it's not nothing
  • 27:05
    funny that support is 51% I wholly call
  • 27:11
    that a bandwagon I think of white women
  • 27:14
    as primarily focusing focusing on their
  • 27:18
    gendered oppression that because they
  • 27:21
    are oppressed as women that that
  • 27:23
    oppression will allow for them to ally
  • 27:26
    and to to sympathize with other
  • 27:29
    dispossessed and disempowered peoples in
  • 27:32
    the nation but my research actually
  • 27:34
    shows that they long long had a deep
  • 27:39
    investment in white supremacy and not
  • 27:41
    only did they benefit from it but they
  • 27:43
    participated in its construction and its
  • 27:45
    perpetuation she left again not just in
  • 27:49
    the context of slavery not just in the
  • 27:51
    colonial period but well after slavery
  • 27:54
    was over so Alice why do you think that
  • 27:56
    white women support President Trump do
  • 27:57
    you think they identify more with being
  • 27:59
    as she said white than they do with
  • 28:01
    being female she's also you know so here
  • 28:03
    it is again we I think we really need to
  • 28:05
    start listening to some of the words
  • 28:06
    because there's a difference between I
  • 28:08
    voted for him and I support him and so
  • 28:11
    they're kind of taking this 52% voted
  • 28:14
    for him into they support him and this
  • 28:16
    is where we start to diverge
  • 28:18
    I think this Stephanie woman I think she
  • 28:20
    may be the lucky she's the white
  • 28:22
    Republican or the white will here your
  • 28:23
    period but well after slavery was over
  • 28:26
    so Alice why do you think that white
  • 28:28
    women support President Trump do you
  • 28:29
    think they identify more with being as
  • 28:31
    she said white than they do with being
  • 28:33
    female she just said that I think when
  • 28:36
    we're talking about the political arena
  • 28:37
    voters women and men identify themselves
  • 28:40
    as either Republican Democrat
  • 28:42
    independent or whatever their political
  • 28:44
    party and I strongly disagree with the
  • 28:47
    characterization let's stop right there
  • 28:48
    I don't identify as any anything I just
  • 28:52
    I'm just a voter I'm sorry I just I
  • 28:54
    reject that out of hand
  • 28:56
    I'm just voting I'm not I do not belong
  • 28:58
    to a party can democratic hold on
  • 29:02
    a lot of people do identify with their
  • 29:05
    party sure and a lot of people are
  • 29:07
    independent which would be you I don't
  • 29:09
    identify to think because the parties
  • 29:11
    have been so screwy that the independent
  • 29:12
    the independent numbers have increased
  • 29:16
    to the point where they have to everyone
  • 29:17
    else I cater to them you know cater to
  • 29:19
    the Republicans if you're a Republican
  • 29:21
    because you know you're gonna get their
  • 29:22
    vote so you cater to these these
  • 29:24
    independents so-called swing voters and
  • 29:26
    because they can go either way
  • 29:28
    their swing I'm just I'm just saying
  • 29:31
    that I reject someone telling me that I
  • 29:34
    have to identify with some party even if
  • 29:37
    it's an in if it's independent
  • 29:39
    I just identify as me I think when we're
  • 29:41
    talking about the political arena voters
  • 29:44
    women and men identify themselves as
  • 29:46
    either Republican Democrat independent
  • 29:48
    or whatever their political party and I
  • 29:50
    strongly disagree with the
  • 29:52
    characterization that women are
  • 29:54
    oppressed and by nature of that
  • 29:55
    oppression they should naturally vote
  • 29:57
    for another group of people that are
  • 29:59
    oppressed I think that's just not how
  • 30:01
    politics works I think as a Republican
  • 30:04
    or a Democrat or whatever your political
  • 30:06
    leanings is you should vote for people
  • 30:09
    that represent those policies I'm a
  • 30:10
    Republican I support this president I
  • 30:13
    voted for this president I did so
  • 30:15
    because of his policy I do not agree
  • 30:17
    with his tone and tenor Donilon your
  • 30:20
    tone and tenor we got to write that down
  • 30:21
    that's what it is tone and tenor
  • 30:26
    discounting his behavior his tone his
  • 30:28
    tactics the things he says about women
  • 30:31
    has denigrating women and I don't
  • 30:32
    tolerate that but this is policies or
  • 30:35
    what I stand for but you don't have to
  • 30:37
    support him you could not vote I mean
  • 30:40
    that's it this is the this is the White
  • 30:42
    Democrat the white woman Democrat who
  • 30:44
    now says you could just not vote which
  • 30:46
    is also a way to identify but is the
  • 30:49
    policies or what I stand for but you
  • 30:52
    don't have to support him you could not
  • 30:54
    vote I mean that's the thing I could say
  • 30:56
    there's a Democrat who does everything
  • 30:59
    that I agree with but they say
  • 31:00
    misogynist or racist thing I would not
  • 31:02
    vote for them and and I just want to
  • 31:04
    step back for a second and say look we
  • 31:06
    spent a lot of time talking about
  • 31:07
    Republican Women look there's a problem
  • 31:10
    with white women it doesn't matter
  • 31:12
    whether they're Democrats or Republicans
  • 31:14
    or not
  • 31:15
    thing there's a problem with racism
  • 31:17
    every everybody every white person
  • 31:20
    benefits from an inherently racist
  • 31:23
    system that is structurally racist we
  • 31:27
    are all we're all part of the problem so
  • 31:30
    I'm going to point my finger at you know
  • 31:32
    just are you white point my finger at
  • 31:34
    you or an another person but I think we
  • 31:36
    have to recognize that there are there's
  • 31:38
    institutional racism in this country and
  • 31:41
    I saying I'm just going to support
  • 31:43
    somebody who you just said says racist
  • 31:46
    things and does racist things you see
  • 31:49
    you see other conflate well they're just
  • 31:51
    talking they're just saying that they
  • 31:52
    have no examples but they're conflating
  • 31:54
    support with with voting and then it's
  • 31:58
    you know it's the tone I don't agree
  • 32:00
    with this tone we'll get back to the
  • 32:01
    Stephanie here for the last 30 seconds
  • 32:03
    there's a problem just a point of
  • 32:05
    clarification so I did not say that
  • 32:06
    white women voted for Trump because they
  • 32:10
    were racist what I would I actually said
  • 32:12
    their historical context and which white
  • 32:15
    supremacy is quite important to right
  • 32:17
    women not simply as the mound of
  • 32:20
    beneficiaries of white supremacy but as
  • 32:22
    part orchestrators part of the built you
  • 32:25
    know the builders yes women helped build
  • 32:31
    white supremacy help help me understand
  • 32:36
    John what is let's just get some terms
  • 32:38
    what is white supremacy as the bully I
  • 32:45
    just saw yes just off the top of your
  • 32:47
    head sure belief that what the white
  • 32:49
    race per se is superior to the other
  • 32:53
    races so what she's saying is that even
  • 32:57
    today women helped build the
  • 33:04
    I believe I guess that white people are
  • 33:06
    superior to all other races that's what
  • 33:08
    she's saying but how did how would you
  • 33:11
    do that
  • 33:13
    I guess by voting for a white guy yeah
  • 33:18
    okay in that case yeah I guess the kind
  • 33:21
    of beneficiaries of white supremacy but
  • 33:23
    as part orchestrators part of the bill
  • 33:26
    you know the builders of premise II so
  • 33:30
    just to clarify that and I agree totally
  • 33:32
    with what Kristin said this is this is
  • 33:35
    not about simply conservative white
  • 33:37
    women this is a phenomenon that is
  • 33:38
    spread across the country whether in the
  • 33:41
    south or the north you can see that this
  • 33:44
    is and it's not an indictment against
  • 33:45
    all white women this is about a certain
  • 33:47
    you know a certain percentage of these
  • 33:49
    white women who do indeed vote for a man
  • 33:52
    who is certainly not speaking to their
  • 33:54
    interests as women or as human beings so
  • 33:57
    I think what she's saying is you can't
  • 34:01
    vote for someone based on his policies
  • 34:04
    if if you deem that person to be hateful
  • 34:10
    towards women
  • 34:13
    or annoying in general it sounds like
  • 34:16
    yes so you know your point of course
  • 34:19
    would you which you made is well what
  • 34:23
    races and what misogyny and now we go to
  • 34:26
    the second clip this was a fascinating I
  • 34:28
    was meet the pronoun no Face the Nation
  • 34:31
    MSNBC you know that's not to face the
  • 34:33
    nation is at CBS
  • 34:36
    I think so yeah depressive B NBC Face
  • 34:39
    the Nation Dan they had four or five of
  • 34:43
    new new freshmen coming into the House
  • 34:46
    of Representatives including Dan
  • 34:48
    Crenshaw and he is the Iraq veteran who
  • 34:52
    had his who was missing an eye has the
  • 34:54
    eyepatch he was the subject of the
  • 34:56
    controversy on Saturday Night Live which
  • 34:58
    I thought actually was kind of solved in
  • 35:00
    a nice nice man or the next week a nice
  • 35:03
    to him well of course it's thanks to him
  • 35:05
    and I'm liking this guy now so he's
  • 35:07
    going to call out this penguin when I
  • 35:09
    forget who it's another freshman coming
  • 35:11
    in says well you know and we've heard
  • 35:14
    this a million times he's undermining
  • 35:16
    our democracy the Democrat he's ripping
  • 35:20
    apart I'm talking about Trump ripping
  • 35:23
    apart democratic institutions orange man
  • 35:26
    bad and so Crenshaw says well could you
  • 35:29
    just give me some examples and I thought
  • 35:32
    this whole set although it went way over
  • 35:34
    everyone's head I thought this I thought
  • 35:35
    the segment was outstanding to show you
  • 35:38
    just how vapid this argument is but you
  • 35:43
    know my experience thus far and I think
  • 35:45
    Deb can before we start off if someone
  • 35:47
    said to you please give me some examples
  • 35:49
    how Trump is undermining our democracy
  • 35:51
    would you I mean just thinking from any
  • 35:54
    kind of dimension what kind of examples
  • 35:57
    could we come up with well I could I
  • 36:02
    would say that by assigning a lot of
  • 36:05
    super conservative judges and every
  • 36:07
    bench around but is that funder mining
  • 36:09
    the democracy no I'm sorry yes from my
  • 36:15
    mistake yes okay so conservative judges
  • 36:17
    conservative judges is undermining the
  • 36:19
    democracy yes exactly
  • 36:24
    what else is undermining the democracy
  • 36:26
    right rushing through the Supreme Court
  • 36:28
    justices okay rushing through yeah
  • 36:31
    undermining that would be undermining
  • 36:33
    the democracy um belittling and going
  • 36:38
    through staffers too quickly these going
  • 36:41
    through too much firing yes too much
  • 36:44
    fire now it's fire undermines the
  • 36:45
    democracy to the firing right right
  • 36:48
    cozying up to Putin oh yes yes collusion
  • 36:53
    yeah yeah
  • 36:54
    losin cozying up yes that's undermining
  • 36:56
    our democracy going along with that not
  • 36:59
    not doing somebody the American Lib did
  • 37:04
    the non American citizen but the
  • 37:07
    American resident oh yes
  • 37:09
    [Music] resident oh yes
  • 37:15
    what what we realize here is that none
  • 37:19
    of these are actual things that
  • 37:21
    undermine our democracy and undermining
  • 37:25
    the democracy would be doing something
  • 37:28
    with the you know the three branches of
  • 37:30
    government that would really break it
  • 37:32
    but an actual undermining but you know
  • 37:34
    maybe they have some examples let's
  • 37:36
    listen to this this is a very nice
  • 37:37
    little conversation but you know my
  • 37:40
    experience thus far and I think Deb can
  • 37:42
    touch on this as well as a number the
  • 37:43
    Progressive Caucus but no I don't think
  • 37:45
    that's the case I think we are all
  • 37:46
    working together rowing in the same
  • 37:48
    direction trying to save our democracy
  • 37:50
    to be frank and so save our democracy
  • 37:53
    well look I think that right now it's
  • 37:56
    important for this majority in the house
  • 37:58
    to engage its some really critical
  • 38:00
    oversight of an administration that is
  • 38:03
    undermining a lot of critical freedoms
  • 38:05
    for folks in our country undermining a
  • 38:07
    lot of critical freedoms for folks that
  • 38:10
    live in our country
  • 38:12
    that's what we need to remember and so
  • 38:14
    when I say save our democracy I mean
  • 38:16
    precisely that that I think some of our
  • 38:17
    democratic freedoms and the principles
  • 38:19
    that we live by have been do you know
  • 38:21
    should we try to make a list some of our
  • 38:24
    democratic freedoms that have gone there
  • 38:26
    being that are in harm's way
  • 38:27
    I think there are artani no I think
  • 38:30
    they're all pretty much intact including
  • 38:32
    you know the right to go say stupid
  • 38:34
    stuff still kind of okay I have been
  • 38:37
    under attack for the better part of the
  • 38:38
    last two years congressman elect do you
  • 38:39
    want to respond to that since the
  • 38:41
    president has is the leader of your
  • 38:42
    party yeah why I always ask the question
  • 38:44
    like like what you know like what is the
  • 38:48
    undermining exactly you know what what
  • 38:50
    democratic freedoms have been undermined
  • 38:51
    we just had an election where we
  • 38:52
    switched switched power in the house
  • 38:54
    democracy is at work people are voting
  • 38:57
    and we're in record numbers sounds about
  • 38:59
    right to me I always asked for example
  • 39:02
    and then we can hit those examples one
  • 39:04
    by one and if it's and if it's worth now
  • 39:06
    now are you ready just so he's gonna say
  • 39:09
    please give me some examples the whole
  • 39:11
    group including the hosts of the
  • 39:13
    moderator of this panel is going to jump
  • 39:15
    in and it's just like a diarrhea of
  • 39:18
    words and these are all things that are
  • 39:21
    undermining our democracy utilizing it's
  • 39:24
    worth criticizing but just kind of this
  • 39:25
    broad brush criticism that the president
  • 39:29
    is somehow undermining our democracy I
  • 39:31
    always wonder that what exactly we're
  • 39:33
    talking I see a free pass and they can't
  • 39:54
    no one's no one's actually speaking an
  • 39:56
    entire sentence I always wonder what
  • 39:59
    exactly we're talking about
  • 40:11
    many press members under investigation
  • 40:13
    Trump is not last week one of the
  • 40:18
    largest media publications in the United
  • 40:20
    States right had to go to a federal
  • 40:21
    court in order to essentially regain
  • 40:24
    access or turn one reporter including
  • 40:28
    CBS did file amicus that's right and
  • 40:31
    they as they actually believe that this
  • 40:34
    court case was a First Amendment court
  • 40:36
    case which it was not but that's okay
  • 40:38
    you know did they really thought Trump
  • 40:40
    really tried to undermine our democracy
  • 40:42
    with that support yeah
  • 40:44
    so I mean obviously it's much larger
  • 40:47
    because he was disrupted but well
  • 40:51
    disruptive in those very same press
  • 40:53
    conferences and I would argue the heat
  • 40:56
    press though so how is that undermining
  • 41:00
    our democracy and here's an important
  • 41:01
    one how is that attacking the press
  • 41:04
    because it's literally in a towel I've
  • 41:06
    literally been attacked
  • 41:08
    I think this too bad this kind of just
  • 41:10
    got glossed over the guy's been blown up
  • 41:12
    he was literally blown up by an AED and
  • 41:15
    they have the gall to say he's attacking
  • 41:18
    I feel a talk he says I did I was really
  • 41:21
    attacked they're all too chickenshit to
  • 41:23
    say anything about it it's very same
  • 41:24
    press conferences and I would argue the
  • 41:27
    press though because it's literally in a
  • 41:30
    towel I've literally been attacked so I
  • 41:32
    choose our words carefully language is
  • 41:35
    and it's okay so why can't you speak why
  • 41:38
    why is he not allowed to use his own
  • 41:40
    language and freedom of speech oh okay
  • 41:43
    now we get to a very sticky point why
  • 41:46
    can the president not exercise his First
  • 41:49
    Amendment right and speak freely well of
  • 41:53
    course it's unpresidential because and
  • 41:57
    you talked about this actually it's
  • 41:58
    important that we lead for an example
  • 42:00
    that we made from our president I agree
  • 42:03
    with you
  • 42:04
    I agree with you their style is one
  • 42:05
    thing if you wanna criticize dial I'm
  • 42:07
    with you right but to say it's an attack
  • 42:10
    on the freedom of the press that is a
  • 42:11
    very bold statement by calling the press
  • 42:14
    the enemy of the people literally I
  • 42:18
    don't like that one break news of course
  • 42:23
    undermining us with his rhetoric about
  • 42:27
    erasing trans people in our country that
  • 42:31
    he's erasing trans people LGBTQ
  • 42:43
    community and I think that's a
  • 42:45
    troublesome and I think that's a
  • 42:47
    I think it's worrisome we all have
  • 42:49
    communities and I mean across this
  • 42:52
    country and and we mentioned it at the
  • 42:55
    beginning ripping children away from
  • 42:56
    their parents arms things that undermine
  • 43:00
    our democracy worry me that I absolutely
  • 43:03
    feel that we have to just you know my
  • 43:06
    CIA and the FBI and the State Department
  • 43:09
    and all those important institutions
  • 43:11
    that are fundamental to how our
  • 43:13
    democracy work what I hear lot of
  • 43:15
    intelligence agencies are now apparently
  • 43:19
    fundamental to how our democracy works
  • 43:23
    well how about histories you started
  • 43:26
    with the top of the CIA which was
  • 43:28
    founded in 1947 is fundamental to do yes
  • 43:31
    FBI that that actively sought out people
  • 43:35
    who are communists to to shame them and
  • 43:39
    throw them out of the country lives
  • 43:41
    through in their lives that's that's
  • 43:44
    important for our democracy it they keep
  • 43:47
    our democracy working please lady
  • 43:49
    absolutely feel that we have to be I and
  • 43:55
    the State Department and all those
  • 43:57
    important institutions that are
  • 43:59
    fundamental to how our democracy works
  • 44:00
    what I hear a lot is you don't like what
  • 44:02
    he says and sometimes okay but you don't
  • 44:04
    like them but you're saying undermining
  • 44:07
    democracy and I and I want to own a
  • 44:09
    caution us because those are very bold
  • 44:10
    words if we have policy disagreements
  • 44:13
    let's focus on those policy
  • 44:14
    disagreements not only happy to discuss
  • 44:15
    those at any point but this is what I've
  • 44:17
    been getting at kind of all week which
  • 44:18
    is we tend to we tend to go right at the
  • 44:21
    jugular right we say you're undermining
  • 44:23
    democracy or a bad person fundamentally
  • 44:25
    that's not always true we have policy
  • 44:27
    with a lot of these things I think it's
  • 44:30
    interesting that we talked about some of
  • 44:31
    the most divisive issues including
  • 44:33
    immigration but the thing that set all
  • 44:34
    of you off was the president we have to
  • 44:37
    leave the conversation there thank you
  • 44:39
    so much so this morning Tina you know
  • 44:45
    she always gives me a rundown of what
  • 44:47
    she's seeing on Twitter and she said if
  • 44:49
    it was been her boy Ben who's had been
  • 44:53
    come at because this show on Fox
  • 44:56
    Ben Dan ben shapiro ben shapiro people
  • 44:59
    never show on fox he didn't yeah - oh
  • 45:02
    he's gonna be a fox regular shapiro
  • 45:05
    nobody likes him in Shapiro said that
  • 45:09
    interestingly Trump Trump's policies in
  • 45:13
    many ways are exactly the same as
  • 45:15
    Obama's policies but and this is his
  • 45:18
    words the Shapiro said and I know a lot
  • 45:21
    of people agree with him that because of
  • 45:24
    the way Trump says it that's why
  • 45:26
    everyone goes apeshit and I say no if
  • 45:30
    he'd if he did it the same way Obama did
  • 45:33
    it it would be even worse
  • 45:35
    press will be up in arms that he's doing
  • 45:37
    it secretly all this evil stuff in there
  • 45:40
    is no - there's no there's no way around
  • 45:42
    this style part of the presentation it
  • 45:45
    doesn't make any difference I agree with
  • 45:49
    you yeah I mean there is just such a
  • 45:52
    hatred of this guy yes it is they can't
  • 45:57
    do anything about anyways that's the way
  • 45:58
    it is what can they do
  • 46:01
    [Music] is what can they do
  • 46:10
    let's catch up to the Acosta situation
  • 46:13
    this is the Acosta up that's funny let's
  • 46:15
    get play Acosta update oops
  • 46:18
    misfired Acosta update this morning CNN
  • 46:20
    is asking for an emergency hearing this
  • 46:23
    is after the White House is warned that
  • 46:24
    they may pull our colleague Jim Acosta
  • 46:26
    stress paths again you thought this was
  • 46:29
    all settled last week well on Friday the
  • 46:30
    network won a temporary restraining
  • 46:32
    order forcing the White House to restore
  • 46:34
    Acosta's potentials for 14 days but just
  • 46:36
    after that White House officials sent
  • 46:38
    Acosta a letter saying they may suspend
  • 46:40
    his pass once that order expires you
  • 46:43
    know choose media correspondent brian
  • 46:45
    Stelter is with us so TR OS temporary
  • 46:48
    restraining orders by nature they last
  • 46:49
    for two weeks 14 days okay that's all
  • 46:52
    the time you have right CNN wants hear
  • 46:56
    the judge to move to a more lasting
  • 46:58
    decision but a separate injunction yes
  • 47:01
    CNN was victorious in round one I said
  • 47:04
    on Friday we don't know how many rounds
  • 47:05
    there's going to be looks like there's
  • 47:06
    going to be many rounds in this legal
  • 47:08
    battle do you notice that no one seems
  • 47:10
    to be giving any details the battle is
  • 47:12
    self because now almost as soon as that
  • 47:15
    temporary restraining order was put into
  • 47:16
    effect on Friday bill shine and Sarah
  • 47:18
    Sanders two of the defendants in the
  • 47:19
    lawsuit sent a letter to Acosta two-page
  • 47:22
    letter that I have here that essentially
  • 47:24
    lays the groundwork to take the press
  • 47:26
    pass and revoke it again which would
  • 47:28
    essentially be at the end of the month
  • 47:29
    you know for the 11 days from today yeah
  • 47:32
    yeah I really this is such a they're
  • 47:36
    such liars this is such a disservice to
  • 47:38
    the viewership to people who are
  • 47:39
    interested in what's going on and you
  • 47:41
    have to go you actually have to get
  • 47:43
    through the Wall Street Journal hey wall
  • 47:46
    to be able to read actually what's going
  • 47:49
    on yeah unless you know where to find a
  • 47:51
    you know docket and actual paperwork
  • 47:53
    well if you go to private browser
  • 47:55
    sometimes you have a brave actually is
  • 47:56
    quite good for this but I'm just saying
  • 47:58
    that no one seems to want to talk about
  • 48:00
    you know what the the restraining order
  • 48:02
    was about it was it was not a First
  • 48:04
    Amendment discussion you know they're
  • 48:07
    not even in that lovely great detail I
  • 48:09
    know I just want to make sure people
  • 48:10
    hear it again I want to make sure people
  • 48:12
    hear it again this was not a First
  • 48:14
    Amendment Cait Court okay a court
  • 48:16
    not yet at least but there's a solution
  • 48:19
    there is a solution
  • 48:23
    to this because this is this is unless
  • 48:25
    you have another clip than I'd like to
  • 48:26
    play a you I thought you'd I thought you
  • 48:31
    had I do some do read the by do thing in
  • 48:33
    front of your something I got no I have
  • 48:35
    a clip I have a solution clip the
  • 48:37
    solution to the issue of the White House
  • 48:41
    press events carl bernstein very famous
  • 48:44
    man he wrote he no he didn't write it he
  • 48:52
    the washington the the great uncovering
  • 48:54
    of watergate along with yeah well that's
  • 48:57
    been yeah man woodward yeah Carl
  • 48:59
    Bernstein who by that I put in the show
  • 49:00
    notes again who know has has published
  • 49:03
    on his own blog which still exists today
  • 49:05
    how many people of the press were
  • 49:07
    working for CIA including himself but
  • 49:10
    here's his idea it's it's a fix it will
  • 49:12
    save democracy we need to start thinking
  • 49:14
    of a different way to cover his press
  • 49:17
    conferences and briefings for instance I
  • 49:19
    don't think we should be taking them
  • 49:21
    live all the time and just pasting them
  • 49:23
    up on the air because they're basically
  • 49:26
    propagandist exercises because they are
  • 49:30
    overwhelmed by his dishonesty and lying
  • 49:33
    so how could we cover them differently
  • 49:36
    maybe we should be there edit decide as
  • 49:41
    reporters what is news and after the
  • 49:44
    press conference or briefing is over
  • 49:45
    then go with that story with clips
  • 49:47
    rather than treating the briefing or
  • 49:50
    press conference as a campaign event I
  • 49:53
    think this is a grand idea let's know
  • 49:56
    what we do let's couple no let's let's
  • 49:58
    combat propaganda with actual propaganda
  • 50:02
    of editing clips down and presenting it
  • 50:05
    in a certain light yeah you would love
  • 50:07
    that but he's gonna take it even further
  • 50:08
    because you know we can still keep
  • 50:11
    democracy alive through this thing
  • 50:13
    called them Oh what is it a website
  • 50:16
    which they really are in which we did in
  • 50:19
    the campaign as well we gave them all
  • 50:21
    this free airtime on cable news
  • 50:23
    especially we need to start treating it
  • 50:25
    like a news event and look in cable we
  • 50:29
    have websites you can put up to the
  • 50:32
    total press conference on our websites
  • 50:35
    that everybody has the chance to see it
  • 50:37
    or their briefing and we ought as long
  • 50:39
    as we can provide the spin doing it's a
  • 50:41
    matter of record and we can be the place
  • 50:44
    of record so everybody can see every
  • 50:46
    word if they want it but we need to
  • 50:49
    start editing yes here's the story not
  • 50:52
    just give him a microphone when we know
  • 50:55
    that his methodology is to engage and
  • 50:58
    manipulate us on the basis of lying
  • 51:01
    propaganda and a drip rock there it is
  • 51:04
    ladies and gentlemen what was his last
  • 51:05
    word propaganda I thought no we need to
  • 51:11
    search his ruffled ing properties to
  • 51:13
    engage and manipulate us on the basis of
  • 51:16
    lying propaganda and a drupe
  • 51:19
    rock-and-roll bathrobe prop tells and
  • 51:23
    throw props I thought it was had you had
  • 51:26
    your prop that's what I thought he said
  • 51:27
    agitprop at first but then I hear it
  • 51:29
    again it is something I never heard
  • 51:31
    never heard this word anthro pop I don't
  • 51:34
    know what he's saying I have no idea hmm
  • 51:36
    so he should put his words on a website
  • 51:39
    so we can understand what he's talking
  • 51:40
    about but but for this is the guy that
  • 51:42
    many of today's journalists will say oh
  • 51:45
    I got in I want to become a journalist
  • 51:46
    because I want to be like Woodward and
  • 51:48
    Bernstein and here he is advocating for
  • 51:51
    editing out any context and just here's
  • 51:55
    the story and we'll play you a clip and
  • 51:57
    it wishes I remember growing up we were
  • 52:01
    moving towards something very dangerous
  • 52:03
    it was called the news bite the sound
  • 52:06
    bite I'm sorry the sound bite news
  • 52:08
    reporting sound bite news reporting and
  • 52:11
    everyone recognized that is universally
  • 52:12
    bad and this must have been 15 20 years
  • 52:15
    ago maybe even a little longer the
  • 52:17
    longer and you know this is what it is
  • 52:20
    the the problem is the Internet has
  • 52:23
    actually given us the opposite of that
  • 52:25
    we can go to a website called gee c-span
  • 52:28
    and you can get the whole
  • 52:32
    everything in its entirety in context
  • 52:35
    and he doesn't like that
  • 52:36
    no he's but he's he not the bastion of
  • 52:39
    journalism let me not see the same thing
  • 52:43
    about him he wasn't even in the news as
  • 52:46
    a high profile character recently I mean
  • 52:49
    wasn't you know when in the sixties and
  • 52:52
    seventies but then he he guy he kept
  • 52:55
    seeing Woodward coming up with these
  • 52:57
    thick books he was getting screwed on
  • 53:00
    the whole deal and he wasn't getting
  • 53:02
    this action and so he chimed in as worse
  • 53:06
    he's like a left-wing fanatic and it's
  • 53:09
    it's fascinating to watch him go on and
  • 53:13
    on about one thing or another cuz all
  • 53:14
    very slanted
  • 53:16
    I just found this to be very disturbing
  • 53:23
    that that he would suggest that we have
  • 53:25
    to chop it up and just play clips and
  • 53:27
    pretty much I mean we know what that
  • 53:29
    means I mean would he say he's saying
  • 53:32
    you have to be it has to be uniike aunt
  • 53:34
    give him a microphone because I guess
  • 53:35
    the people can't parse what he's saying
  • 53:39
    themselves I mean that's what he's
  • 53:40
    saying I mean that's what he's
  • 53:42
    yeah you're too stupid to stoop you're
  • 53:44
    thinking wrong fort fort anarchic oh yes
  • 53:49
    yes yeah we're dictated for
  • 53:52
    dictatorships yeah
  • 53:54
    he's advocating for that yeah okay well
  • 53:58
    it's insane
  • 53:59
    coming from him well he's been kind of
  • 54:04
    all he's been kind of unhinged for quite
  • 54:06
    a while it seems to me they better go so
  • 54:08
    unchallenged while it seems to me they better go so
  • 54:10
    in a brine seltzer water sitting right
  • 54:12
    there oh yeah that's a great idea we
  • 54:14
    should do that yeah they're all the same
  • 54:16
    boat so we we can't let people decide
  • 54:18
    for themselves now this is why they want
  • 54:22
    two things yeah everybody oh yeah that
  • 54:24
    galls me a great president if it wasn't
  • 54:26
    for Twitter yeah it wouldn't be
  • 54:28
    president if it wasn't for Twitter
  • 54:30
    that's the point here I got the heyo she
  • 54:36
    is this her latest yes a civics lesson
  • 54:39
    we need a jingle we need a jingle civics
  • 54:41
    with aoc yeah to make sure that we take
  • 54:45
    back all three chambers is that is that
  • 54:48
    should we and if we work our butts off
  • 54:51
    to make sure that we take back all three
  • 54:53
    chambers of Congress rather than all
  • 54:55
    three chambers of government the
  • 54:57
    presidency the Senate and the House in
  • 54:59
    2020 we can't start working in 2020 okay
  • 55:05
    first of all there's something wrong
  • 55:06
    with your clips cuz I don't know what's
  • 55:08
    happening with the beginning but it's
  • 55:09
    like that was a mistake
  • 55:11
    yeah that's happened a lot lately no it
  • 55:13
    happened I'll tell you what it is if you
  • 55:15
    want to know yes when you start app I'm
  • 55:18
    pulling clips from the from the internet
  • 55:21
    as opposed to author the over quarter
  • 55:23
    that used to do it because it's more
  • 55:26
    efficient and it's not every clip but
  • 55:30
    everyone's on that clip which should
  • 55:32
    have been cut the beginning part that
  • 55:33
    you're bitching about should have been
  • 55:35
    cut out by me when I did the Edit on the
  • 55:37
    final clip and you wouldn't have said
  • 55:38
    anything there's some stupid reason I
  • 55:41
    exploited the entire audio file instead
  • 55:45
    of just to select it so that was my
  • 55:47
    fault yeah but it okay Ron I thought
  • 55:49
    your toy I know what you're talking
  • 55:50
    about when you're talking about because
  • 55:52
    I have left it in on a number of Clips
  • 55:54
    you guys I said yeah okay I hear it all
  • 55:57
    the time do you hear it
  • 56:01
    well let's just play a clip and see if
  • 56:03
    it's on there
  • 56:05
    all right no no let's not let's let's
  • 56:07
    deconstruct what she just said so people
  • 56:09
    understand what she just said so people
  • 56:10
    she says all let's just let's just take
  • 56:13
    it step by step
  • 56:13
    I want our non Americans and many
  • 56:15
    Americans themselves to understand why
  • 56:17
    this is so ridiculous coming from
  • 56:19
    someone who is in the House of
  • 56:21
    Representatives make sure that we take
  • 56:23
    back all three chambers is that is that
  • 56:27
    should we and if we work our butts off
  • 56:29
    to make sure that we take back all three
  • 56:31
    chambers of Congress okay so she starts
  • 56:34
    out by saying all three chambers of
  • 56:35
    Congress you can say Congress not the
  • 56:39
    Congress but you say Congress which is
  • 56:41
    made up of the House of Representatives
  • 56:43
    and the Senate I do not believe there's
  • 56:45
    a third chamber of Congress
  • 56:47
    there's yes there is there is a bathroom
  • 56:54
    commerce is down there in the basement
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    so now she corrects herself and she
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    correctly says I mean it's really the
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    three branches of government but she
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    tries to she tries to make it right by
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    saying the three chambers of government
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    I'll give her that
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    and the three I've always learned
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    branches of government which is the
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    judicial the legislative which is where
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    she is and the executive those are the
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    three this is something we learn when
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    were seven years seven eight years old
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    here we go you learn it real early or
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    just used to there were you used to I
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    don't think it's being taught she
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    doesn't ever learned it Chris all three
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    chambers of government the presidency
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    the Senate and the house in 2020 she
  • 57:40
    just kind of forgot she made the Senate
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    and the House of Representatives
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    two of the branches and just left out
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    the one she should be bitching out the
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    boast which is judicial
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    yes and she leaves this stuff up too
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    which i think is brave but this is going
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    to be a long as tell us he's not gonna
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    that let this continue I'm Shelley
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    they're gonna have a talk to her or
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    something she's gonna you know tell her
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    to stop this young lady has a
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    presidential future is what I'm gonna
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    tell you right now this person lives
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    have fun for the no agenda show know
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    this kind of person has an absolute
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    chance to become president
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    not because of this what she said just
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    the whole everything everything about
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    her people love her love her and when is
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    so easy to ridicule she has zero chance
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    of getting any further than she's gotten
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    okay she is a laughing stock beef that's
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    what they said about Donald Trump yes
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    they did so all you need is the media
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    which who are not covering her so that's
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    you know once that happens she has a
  • 58:51
    real good shot she has a real remember
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    people say well like this davin Eddie
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    wants to run for president or now who's
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    the latest guy this Bloomberg he's gonna
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    run for president Bloomberg he has
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    bloomed Bloomberg yeah and he is you
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    know the difference between two
  • 59:06
    celebrity against a celebrity running
  • 59:08
    for president if you take a look who how
  • 59:09
    many celebrities have been present we
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    have Reagan mm-hmm we've had Eisenhower
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    he was a celebrity oh yeah of course he
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    was he was a celebrity yeah I think yeah
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    you have Trump all these guys had a an
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    enormous amount of public profile yeah
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    before they ever became president mhm
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    in fact Reagan had as much before he
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    became governor of California which he
  • 59:34
    is had be out I think out shown Trump by
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    quite a bit because he was doing you
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    know the 60 mule train thing he was
  • 59:43
    doing these speeches he had a TV show he
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    was in the movies for years and years
  • 59:47
    and years and then he became he was a
  • 59:50
    head of the Screen Actors Guild is a
  • 59:52
    former doubt yeah that's right that's
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    right he's former Democrat and
  • 59:56
    Republican he's former Democrat and
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    by today's standards which is very
  • 1:00:00
    different today's media landscape is not
  • 1:00:03
    the same I would say AOC Alexandria
  • 1:00:07
    Ocasio Cortez is a big-time celebrity
  • 1:00:10
    for Democrats big-time big-time Jen
  • 1:00:14
    briny did you who has a level head on
  • 1:00:16
    her shoulders whoo-hoo dice who if she
  • 1:00:20
    heard these words come out of anyone
  • 1:00:23
    else's mouth including a Democrat she
  • 1:00:25
    would ridicule them because she does
  • 1:00:27
    congressional dish well how government
  • 1:00:31
    works she knows her civics she goes on
  • 1:00:34
    Twitter and says I love the
  • 1:00:35
    girl Wow love this girl so that's the
  • 1:00:39
    past you know it's it does not matter
  • 1:00:41
    what comes out of the mouth as long as
  • 1:00:43
    it sounds good that's it's just
  • 1:00:45
    ridiculous sounds good that's it's just
  • 1:00:46
    well that's murder what you're saying is
  • 1:00:48
    ridiculous it's sadly now back to the
  • 1:00:53
    celebrity thing Trump had this you know
  • 1:00:56
    this TV show that was a big head and he
  • 1:00:58
    was known forever I mean he's been
  • 1:01:01
    always on Letterman he made a lot of TV
  • 1:01:03
    appearances bragging about himself
  • 1:01:05
    mostly but he was doing a lot of work
  • 1:01:07
    Bloomberg you know does not have this
  • 1:01:10
    profile he does in New York he has zero
  • 1:01:12
    problems now he has no problem Berg news
  • 1:01:15
    service now but when you see him know
  • 1:01:18
    he's an annoying guy he's boring
  • 1:01:20
    glib and he's apparently very short well
  • 1:01:27
    not to say anything bad about people
  • 1:01:30
    that short this apparently Bloomberg's
  • 1:01:31
    like 5 1 or something like that oh my
  • 1:01:34
    gosh 5 1 or something like that oh my
  • 1:01:36
    petite now but your point yeah I think
  • 1:01:38
    your point is is well-made but in
  • 1:01:41
    today's world you don't have to be a
  • 1:01:43
    celebrity for very long you can't stay a
  • 1:01:46
    celebrity for very long if you're an AOC
  • 1:01:48
    because if you wears thin you're
  • 1:01:51
    basically an idiot
  • 1:01:55
    she is not a bright girl she has got big
  • 1:01:58
    eyes and a nice smile and she's
  • 1:01:59
    photogenic telegenic and she's excitable
  • 1:02:02
    yeah telegenic and she's excitable
  • 1:02:03
    so she's kind of you know attractive to
  • 1:02:06
    to the camera and people will follow her
  • 1:02:09
    just like they follow other people on
  • 1:02:11
    Instagram they will follow her and that
  • 1:02:13
    will love her for it and they will vote
  • 1:02:14
    for her when PewDiePie runs for
  • 1:02:16
    president then you're talking
  • 1:02:19
    alright look we don't have to agree I
  • 1:02:22
    think she is a definite candidate for
  • 1:02:24
    presidency in our lifetime she is a
  • 1:02:27
    celebrity and she is a modern-day
  • 1:02:30
    celebrity and as long as she has an
  • 1:02:33
    Instagram account will remain a
  • 1:02:34
    celebrity and people will love her for
  • 1:02:36
    it it's the it's the political version
  • 1:02:38
    of the Kardashians
  • 1:02:41
    it works
  • 1:02:43
    just that's just my opinion yeah I don't
  • 1:02:47
    think it's compiling thing is comparable
  • 1:02:48
    to previous job because she went door to
  • 1:02:51
    pretty much door to door condemning the
  • 1:02:53
    other guy was never even in the
  • 1:02:55
    neighborhood and it didn't get take long
  • 1:02:57
    for her to win that's not gonna work
  • 1:02:59
    yeah look I see the grand bull crap see
  • 1:03:02
    the thing is I respect what you're
  • 1:03:03
    saying you just can't say okay maybe
  • 1:03:05
    you're right you say you know I can't
  • 1:03:07
    because you're not right million times
  • 1:03:12
    don't give me that you've heard me say
  • 1:03:13
    well yeah you could be right as soon as
  • 1:03:15
    you make a good point
  • 1:03:16
    no when you're not is when it's not even
  • 1:03:19
    possible when you're not is when it's not even
  • 1:03:21
    not gonna give you the benefit of the
  • 1:03:22
    doubt gonna give you the benefit of the
  • 1:03:24
    idiot I will just remind you I'll go
  • 1:03:27
    back and I'll get the tape because we
  • 1:03:28
    have actual reel-to-reel tape of this
  • 1:03:30
    show and I will I will play you the
  • 1:03:32
    segment where I said Donald Trump is
  • 1:03:33
    going to become president and you save
  • 1:03:35
    now to become president and you save
  • 1:03:37
    dull cake you find that I'll be stunned
  • 1:03:39
    you got it moving on I would like to
  • 1:03:42
    thank you for your courage and say in
  • 1:03:44
    the morning to you John see you and the
  • 1:03:46
    C stands for can't be president Dvorak
  • 1:03:52
    nope and me huh they sing in the morning
  • 1:03:56
    I did I said thank you and I did all the
  • 1:03:58
    whole thing you didn't hear me no this
  • 1:04:00
    is where you say in the morning in the
  • 1:04:03
    morning in the morning in the morning at
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    a curry also in the morning all ships
  • 1:04:06
    you bootleggers I feed near some water
  • 1:04:08
    all the Dames nights out there best
  • 1:04:09
    thing in the morning to the troll room
  • 1:04:12
    that is no agenda stream calm where we
  • 1:04:16
    still have some trolls hanging out on
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    this Thanksgiving Day show Thanksgiving
  • 1:04:22
    Day show celebration good to see you all
  • 1:04:25
    here I think they have a meal tonight no
  • 1:04:30
    John I'm not cooking the meal because
  • 1:04:32
    you know I have to do a show because
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    you're not cooking a meal remember I was
  • 1:04:39
    somebody's cooking the meal yes it was
  • 1:04:41
    supposed to be me
  • 1:04:44
    in the morning to Darrin O'Neill just
  • 1:04:47
    stop knowing about it stop just stop
  • 1:04:50
    I'm not cooking the meal Tina's cooking
  • 1:04:52
    the meal because I'm not cooking the
  • 1:04:53
    meal because of you in the morning to
  • 1:04:57
    Darrin O'Neill who brought us the
  • 1:04:58
    artwork for episode 10 87 hippy humus is
  • 1:05:02
    how I pronounced it thank you to every
  • 1:05:04
    Jew in the world who sent me an audio
  • 1:05:06
    clip of how to pronounce pronounced
  • 1:05:07
    humus in Arabic or in Hebrew we're in
  • 1:05:13
    America here so I'll say hummus
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    you know me I got you're not pronouncing
  • 1:05:17
    comments right what are you supposed to
  • 1:05:20
    say home us come on oh yeah sir sir i
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    think she was at sir Brian of London
  • 1:05:29
    maybe I think every every Jew producer
  • 1:05:32
    we have in Israel and I'm saying it that
  • 1:05:34
    way specifically sending me you're not
  • 1:05:36
    pronouncing it right Mike
  • 1:05:42
    or would how do you say germany
  • 1:05:44
    deutschland course hummus well we say
  • 1:05:49
    hummus in the United States and we say
  • 1:05:51
    Germany we're the only our show says
  • 1:05:53
    Deutschland is kind of a gimmick
  • 1:05:55
    I want to thank Darren for his artwork
  • 1:05:59
    which there was a lot of things we could
  • 1:06:00
    choose from but it we really liked it of
  • 1:06:04
    course a lot of people had hippy hummus
  • 1:06:06
    as artwork so we went with no agenda
  • 1:06:09
    sports radio your number one resource
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    for sports news to you're changing your
  • 1:06:16
    whole attitude about sports sports
  • 1:06:18
    report today yes yes yes right yeah I
  • 1:06:21
    had another Sports report is fantastic
  • 1:06:23
    and I defended the sport and I I follow
  • 1:06:27
    and I report on and defended hey yes I
  • 1:06:30
    think you have every right to defend the
  • 1:06:32
    sport that you report on and thank you
  • 1:06:35
    to all of the artists who have submitted
  • 1:06:39
    artwork we use it for a variety of
  • 1:06:41
    things I think we may even have a little
  • 1:06:42
    note I think we got a note from the No
  • 1:06:44
    Agenda shop guys did you see that come
  • 1:06:46
    in no I'll have to see if it's in here
  • 1:06:50
    well they they're changing the way they
  • 1:06:52
    split the money because the way it works
  • 1:06:54
    is if you upload something no agenda art
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    generator com
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    if it's used for any of the no agenda
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    shop calm swag and goodies
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    oh shoot there you go Tony Cabrera
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    number one on the list he we can read it
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    verbatim there is do that right now
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    take our browsers associate executive
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    producer so 1088 leading to show 1089
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    which is 33 squared
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    33 squared so anything you can come up
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    with for a donation that represents 30 3
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    squared is welcome
  • 1:07:30
    tony cabrera to the 914 dollars in 96
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    cents it's a good amount ITM John and
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    Adam I finally got time to calculate
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    your latest share of the noise gender
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    shop comm profits after spending 10
  • 1:07:41
    hours this weekend calculating totals I
  • 1:07:42
    realized I had to modify the 33% which
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    by the way x squared is 1089 instead of
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    calculating net profits on each item
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    which which vary let's read this slowly
  • 1:07:54
    let me do it because I've already read
  • 1:07:55
    the whole note it's important because we
  • 1:07:58
    have this model where artists show and
  • 1:08:01
    the no agenda shop Tony I guess guys
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    they all split this and we have nothing
  • 1:08:06
    to do with that we believe it we don't
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    look at your accounting we trust it
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    you'd nine 1496 love it thank you very
  • 1:08:11
    much tears what's changing he says it's
  • 1:08:15
    important after spending ten hours this
  • 1:08:16
    weekend calculating totals I realize I
  • 1:08:19
    had to modify the three-way split model
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    of 33% for 33 for the show 33 for the
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    artist 33 for no agenda shop instead of
  • 1:08:28
    calculating net profits on each item
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    which vary depending on item size type
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    color and region ordered from and then
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    dividing by 3 the shop is switching to a
  • 1:08:38
    fixed royalty system it's not a big
  • 1:08:40
    difference but it is important to
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    understand for each item sold the show
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    no agenda show receives three dollars
  • 1:08:46
    and 33 cents and the designing artist
  • 1:08:48
    will receive three dollars and 33 cents
  • 1:08:50
    that are 33 cents this will literally
  • 1:08:54
    decimate the time to calculate the
  • 1:08:56
    profit split which sadly is not the
  • 1:08:58
    definition of literally decimating but
  • 1:09:01
    I'll we understand what you're saying
  • 1:09:03
    Tony now I can simply count the items
  • 1:09:06
    each artist sold and multiplied by 3.33
  • 1:09:09
    then send that amount to the show and
  • 1:09:11
    the artist and I think I totally
  • 1:09:13
    understand and I think everyone's
  • 1:09:14
    delighted that they're doing this at all
  • 1:09:16
    so I'm okay with it but it is a change
  • 1:09:18
    from the way it is pretty much can do
  • 1:09:21
    whatever he wants
  • 1:09:22
    yes he did not give anything to the show
  • 1:09:24
    so are the artists technically no so
  • 1:09:27
    very happy thank you Tony we love it we
  • 1:09:30
    love the shop I spend any money I get
  • 1:09:32
    from the shop I think I've spent it on
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    the shop I love getting tea I'll have
  • 1:09:36
    the spaceforce t-shirt I love all the
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    stuff from the trace force
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    so it's it's it's another part of our
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    value for value networking there you go
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    there we have no agenda
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    shop.com Tony Cabrera coming in as the
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    top executive producer thanks to the
  • 1:09:50
    value that he's adding into our network
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    love it just love it
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    followed by Paul Love who came in at 333
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    dollars and 33 cents a lot of 33 cetera
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    which reminds people that there's a 1089
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    show coming listeners sense show one he
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    claims and I used the word claims came
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    in as an avid fan and producer
  • 1:10:11
    submitting mini show intro stood of the
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    DSC and boys an OVA DSC guy and follower
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    of John from tech TV and tech mag
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    columns this is glorious day when the
  • 1:10:20
    two of you combined to create the best
  • 1:10:21
    podcast in the universe
  • 1:10:24
    it was a glorious day I appreciate this
  • 1:10:30
    shout out from Adam recognizing my early
  • 1:10:33
    involvement in podcasting is not a major
  • 1:10:35
    player from the early days or fun times
  • 1:10:37
    with a great group of people is
  • 1:10:39
    interesting to see
  • 1:10:41
    how see here how as with much of the
  • 1:10:45
    world history is being rewritten by
  • 1:10:46
    those in the present to mold to their
  • 1:10:49
    ones in other words the credit for
  • 1:10:51
    podcasting is being taken over by a
  • 1:10:52
    bunch of posers yeah well us how it goes
  • 1:10:56
    it always goes that way with this
  • 1:10:59
    donation I complete my knighthood
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    records below I've not kept track well
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    but recent history hits the market I
  • 1:11:04
    would like to be titled sir daddy cast
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    of the love house let's write the daddy
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    cast I remember the daddy cast while
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    giving this time of year seems
  • 1:11:13
    appropriate to express thanks for what
  • 1:11:15
    you do value for value this date also
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    commemorates my oldest son's 18th
  • 1:11:19
    birthday I think he's on the list music
  • 1:11:22
    I don't know yes keep going would love
  • 1:11:27
    to hear the full version of our ESP ICT
  • 1:11:30
    at the end of the show and a too
  • 1:11:32
    delicious to believe followed by don't
  • 1:11:34
    eat me Hillary and that combo always