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1087: Hippie Hummus

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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November 18th, 2018
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Chapters

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Start of Show
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0:58
The Netherlands Wins from France in Nations League Soccer Tournament
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7:07
Grand Slam of Darts' Fart-Gate Scandal
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9:30
Arrival of Sinterklaas in The Netherlands
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15:38
French Protests Against Rising Gas Taxes
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18:27
IRS Issues Inflation Adjustments for 2019
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19:58
Theresa May Defends Brexit Deal in House of Commons
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24:05
The Weight of the Brexit Deal
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28:17
Brexit for Dummies
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30:50
California Campfire
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34:19
Trump Tweets California Campfire Caused by Forest Mismanagement
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45:37
Prosecutors Mistakenly Reveal Assange was Secretly Charged in the US
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48:09
CIA Director Previously Called WikiLeaks a 'Non-State Hostile Intelligence Service'
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53:12
Judge Orders White House to Restore Jim Acosta's Press Pass
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1:00:23
Credits
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1:28:56
Producer Note: Illegal Charcoal Smuggling from Africa
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1:31:23
Saudi Arabia
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1:37:58
Kirstjen Nielsen Expected to be Fired After Clash with Melania Trump
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1:41:42
Pentagon Fails its First-Ever Audit
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1:42:38
Canada Post Backlog Stalls Holiday Deliveries
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1:43:33
Student Debt in The Netherlands
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1:48:55
Nancy Pelosi Applauds Al Sharpton for Saving America
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1:53:47
Manufacturing Issues of Birth Control Pill in Europe
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1:55:12
Amazon Native Ad on Superstore TV Show
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1:57:00
New Amazon Headquarter Location Perks
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1:59:56
Targeted Advertising on Gas Station Billboards
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2:04:28
Coupon Code Scams
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2:06:34
Bitmain Chooses Rockdale, Texas for Newest Blockchain Data Center
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2:10:16
Donations
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2:17:37
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:20:13
Brightside, US Cannabis Delivery Service
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2:22:47
Unhealthy Air Quality in San Francisco
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2:24:25
Router Security on Eye On Cyber
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2:28:07
Australian Senator Announces Gender Change to Participate in Abortion Discussion
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2:32:40
Kamala Harris Compares ICE to the KKK
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2:35:27
MSNBC Hosts React to Clinton 2020 Rumors
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2:37:46
Canadian Employers Requiring Sick Notes for Minor Illnesses a 'Public Health Risk'
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2:41:09
End of Show
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    Oh Adam curry
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    Jhansi devorah's your award-winning
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    Gitmo Nation Media assassination episode
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    1087 this is no agenda with traffic and
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    weather together sports on the threes
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    and broadcasting live from the garden of
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    am spam in the loft in Laden in the
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    morning everybody I'm Madame Curie and
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    from northern Silicon Valley where the
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    separate just went by and spoke by the
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    way I'm John Steed Boris didn't expect
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    to cut it so close
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    were we in time with the Zephyr or what
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    we started the whole thing just as the
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    Zephyr appeared as a 10-car train - for
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    some reason some people must just be
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    thinking the hell are these guys doing
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    yes I'm still here in the lowlands
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    Gitmo nation lowlands in the Netherlands
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    and you know since your newsletter kind
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    of made little joke
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    I mean how do we say Jill joke you just
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    a bit something about no I was about it
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    no it didn't annoy me I was about sports
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    you said Adam will be checking in from
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    Europe you'll have weather and news and
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    no sports and like actually I don't have
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    one I have two sports stories for you
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    Wow I have two sports stories for you
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    yeah and and of course I would never
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    have known this if it wasn't really big
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    news particularly here in the
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    Netherlands they even beam that this
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    year's World Cup but the Netherlands a
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    red hot right now does their to nil win
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    over world champions France proves the
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    shock wave has rippled around the UEFA
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    nations League having also beaten
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    Germany the wind sees the 2014 World Cup
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    winners tumble down into the league's
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    Division two we have players with
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    exceptional technical experience and
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    also Conference speed we know why we won
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    against German invades valve and why we
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    won against France on Monday they play
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    at home with only pride at stake just a
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    draw would be enough to see Ronald
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    Cummins team advance to each other group
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    winners next June so this is the the
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    UEFA nations League competition this is
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    a big deal in Europe and the Netherlands
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    have not only trounced Germany but they
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    beat the world cup holder France to zero
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    - no - to nil with the fight with the
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    final goal being a penalty a panenka now
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    if you ever heard this term so bright it
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    that right at the whistle right at the
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    very end of all time you know there was
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    a foul occurred the guy takes a penalty
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    which is just the last second of the
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    game and you know typically with soccer
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    you know the goal he's gonna choose a
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    side he's gonna you know dive toward and
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    the kicker is going to choose a side and
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    if those two match up the goal usually
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    has it but there's this one now yeah
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    there's this one move called the panenka
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    and that and that is you don't really
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    kick the ball just kind of scoop it with
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    your foot and lob it right in the middle
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    so the kiss of the goalie is on the
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    ground in the corner he chose and the
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    ball goes hoobledoop and kind of poops
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    right in so it was a total shit
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    very last second they scored the second
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    goes that changed the outcome of the
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    game no it was just for the humiliation
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    they was sure the humiliation of it but
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    here's my question in the United States
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    of Europe where nationalism is a bad
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    word where because no nations no borders
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    why do we have all of our guys in each
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    country dress up in a color and go fight
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    for our nation in the nations league
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    surely this atrocity must stop I say
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    they had to put an end to it I mean it's
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    it's when you think about it make up
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    your mind people when you think about it
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    it's like wow I have to say though
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    all of the online dictionaries in the
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    past week maybe two weeks but I'd of
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    course I didn't check them all how many
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    times have we gone into an online
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    dictionary and have we looked up the
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    definition of nationalism at least three
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    for every as the show is seen with a
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    different dictionary well all the
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    dictionaries have now done a switch
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    where the second or third definition is
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    now the number one definition here's
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    merriam-webster which I know we read
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    previously when looking up the
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    definition of nationalism the number-one
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    definition as of today
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    nationalism excessive favoritism towards
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    one's own country
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    they drop the word excessive in there
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    yeah and synonym what would it what is
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    favoritism to one's own kind is that the
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    word excessive so you know how the
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    dictionary has that that definition and
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    then under it it has a little line so it
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    says excessive favoritism towards one's
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    own country and then little Asterix
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    nazism 'he's almost epic nationalism
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    appealed to downtrodden germans still
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    suffering the humiliation of being
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    defeated in World War one
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    so they're really bringing the Nazi
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    thing right into it right off the top
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    shameless why I'm okay I'm okay with it
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    now like okay finally you change the
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    dictionary I guess we all agree there
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    was a meeting somewhere and I'm sure
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    what happened is all the dictionary
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    people were going damn and look at how
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    they're defining nationalism not just a
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    while wait a minute that's macron oh
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    there's Trudeau holy crap we better
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    change it and they did that's pretty
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    much well there's out there's activists
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    with it within the companies no wars of
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    course because number two makes a lot of
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    noise okay okay okay what we're gonna do
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    well here's the number two definition
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    which used to be number one love and
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    support for one's country American
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    nationalism is often most visible during
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    4th of July celebrations anyway as I was
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    looking at all the online dictionaries I
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    I realized the word that we used to use
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    maybe even just a couple years back was
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    jingoism that I think is more accurate
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    but we never really know it was a word
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    for a while I don't know if it was
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    during work because it did show up and
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    nobody got it so they stopped using it
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    yeah but it wasn't us using it um
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    I remember during what and I don't know
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    if it was the second Obama election or
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    if it was more recent I just remember I
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    mean I get it I did no research on it
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    but somehow in the back of my mind I
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    remembered jingoism was actually I
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    remember you explaining what jingoism
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    was that's the possibility I did that
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    but it wasn't worse that you or I you
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    know no no no no because I have to add
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    the minute I said jingoism I think of
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    Jenga and it just doesn't feel right
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    it's the word war onward for me anyway
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    one more sports story John from Gitmo
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    nation the lowlands we have with the
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    huge Darts championship yes bonus story
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    huge dart championship the Dutch are
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    very good at darts and they very good it
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    with ours you've had some well this is a
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    big deal in Europe you can scoff but I'm
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    here I'm reporting on what's important
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    darts I'm reporting on what's important
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    you're good at darts yeah 100
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    you get a lot of those well there was
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    the final match the Dutch guy lost but
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    he had a very peculiar reason he was
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    extremely distracted by something that
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    happened and he blamed his co finalists
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    I think as a Scot now you're gonna have
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    to try and focus your ears to listen to
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    what I think The Scotsman I think was
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    discussing what he's saying here but
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    this was the it's now called well
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    there's a name for it she spoke to
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    Wesley and besides that he said you were
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    a class player and can you let him alive
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    in the first session he said that it was
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    smelly on the stage
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    I thought where's that factor on stage
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    today no no I think he thinks you did it
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    you can put your finger up large so we
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    must know yeah I thought he had shit and
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    I might start it it was bad it was bad
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    it was bad it was I think I thought it
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    was him and he started putting bathtub a
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    muscle needed to get some one day yeah
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    and he thought it was you
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    oh no hands up sweet on my kid's life so
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    help me God nothing closed so this is
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    now what's known as fart gate yes it was
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    so it smelled so bad that he was
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    distracted and he that's why he lost the
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    game and the other guys say no no I
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    think he did it
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    so they're actually blaming each other
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    for the losing fart gate no one really
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    knows it's snitch and that is the top of
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    the news well you nailed it for sports
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    news we should get a show I need a
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    little jingle sports news I need you to
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    appreciate my sports topics entertaining
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    I think you dug him up just because of
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    that content the newsletter yes the
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    newsletter did make me do it of course
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    we have the big Black Pete controversy
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    the holy man st. Nicholas arrived on his
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    steam boat with his black Petes
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    yesterday but we've been tracking this
  • 9:38
    story and the No Agenda show for five
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    years where does the steamboat go but
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    after it what it comes from Spain
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    what route does it take oh it did it
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    just up the coast
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    it goes around and comes around it
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    doesn't go up any bunch of canals
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    through France and all that it comes
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    which I think you can get from France
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    through the canal system up the road he
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    does not it's a rather big ship setting
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    up and he's got a horse on it you know
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    anyway the horse doing ship oh he so he
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    doesn't have a sleigh and eight tiny
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    reindeer he has a white horse and he's
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    on he who comes he's on the ship on the
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    horse on the top of the deck he's on a
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    white horse he looks like the Pope with
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    his you know with his hat and is his
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    staff and all that this is very old
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    tradition we've been tracking for the
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    past five years
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    this controversy no I looked it up with
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    I find clips that we had from five years
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    ago here's the thing a reminder that
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    this really only started when I forget
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    the woman's name from the United Nations
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    Human Rights office whose sole job is to
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    get reparations
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    paid to mainly islands such a well you
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    look at Indonesia and Haiti and you know
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    anywhere where slaves were were created
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    and grown and taken away by the evil
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    West it don't need you qualifies but
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    Haiti for sure I think the Dutch had a
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    lot of stuff going on in Indonesia oh
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    you may want to look that up some Dutch
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    thing as possible that's why I know that
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    they stole the cuisine from Indonesia
  • 11:29
    yes well that's why they're you know
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    this was happening in the Netherlands in
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    particular and it was just just to get
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    money and it started this whole this
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    whole conversation it really it here's
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    how bad it got where the night before
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    the Saint was supposed to arrive and I
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    might want to remind everybody this is
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    it this is just now you're talking today
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    or yesterday no you know yesterday the
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    day before yeah so the evening before
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    yesterday in the Netherlands whenever
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    you know it's it's December and the the
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    November December and then he's coming
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    and all the kids are gonna be all
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    they're excited because it's the real
  • 12:02
    reason you stayed there's because you
  • 12:04
    really like to reminisce about this
  • 12:06
    character it's very interesting from a
  • 12:08
    social standpoint what's happening here
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    and the there so what I'm trying to get
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    to is that at seven o'clock we have the
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    news on the Dutch public broadcasting
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    stations as three stations three
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    channels and they do the news at the
  • 12:24
    same time on one of the stations that
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    for these few weeks they replace the
  • 12:28
    news with the Sinterklaas you're now so
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    it's the st. Nicholas news and you know
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    the kids all gather round they watch it
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    and you know it's of course it's a fairy
  • 12:37
    tale about these condo there is we see
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    the steamboat for the first time ever
  • 12:41
    the ratings the ratings of the sinter
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    Klass show now the fake news about a
  • 12:48
    fake guy on a coming from Spain was
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    significantly larger than the people
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    watching the actual news report and this
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    has become a national discussion where
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    if you don't agree that this is racist
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    you are of course a racist I mean it's
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    just like the u.s. it's a different
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    topic but the racist words is being
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    thrown around very easily and here's
  • 13:15
    what's even more interesting as I was
  • 13:17
    looking back through all past five years
  • 13:19
    of this controversy there was more
  • 13:22
    actual physical fighting and protesting
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    five years ago than this year even
  • 13:29
    though the the topic was the top of all
  • 13:33
    news and every industry at the front of
  • 13:35
    every newspaper everybody has an opinion
  • 13:37
    but I think it's just everything's
  • 13:39
    online it's all on Twitter and TV talk
  • 13:42
    shows pretty much the real protest
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    wasn't too bad they arrested people and
  • 13:45
    you know there were people on one side
  • 13:47
    yelling kickstart kick outsmart the
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    Pete's literally they have an
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    organization here kick out smart to Pete
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    and the other side it's parents go on
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    Ruth and the kids are walking in the
  • 13:56
    middle and it's just it's it's horrible
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    what's happening well yes it is this is
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    why I like to talk about it so it's just
  • 14:08
    it's been nuts but as you know the high
  • 14:11
    court said no problem can do whatever
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    you want
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    the it's not racist and you know this is
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    a tradition
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    and I have to say I mainly saw I didn't
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    see a lot of the rainbow Pete's or the
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    came down the chimney Pete was only know
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    as he scuffed black because it was just
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    from the chimney all these other
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    politically correct ideas heats Pete's
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    yes politically correct Pete's so it's
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    it's interesting to see how the outrage
  • 14:36
    has grown online grown in the media of
  • 14:39
    course that feeds each other but in real
  • 14:41
    life people didn't really get up and go
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    protest people didn't really get up and go
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    which if you think about it is it lorry
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    phenomenon this is the phenomenon of the
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    internet mm-hmm where people if they
  • 14:53
    blow off some steam on the internet they
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    think they've done their job yep that's
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    my conclusion come through this for
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    years and years we've seen all these
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    ideas all don't let this this is gonna
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    ruin the net if they put this law
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    through let's protest and people you
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    know they don't write letters they just
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    bitch and moan online and then it goes
  • 15:12
    through anyway so we tried as hard as we
  • 15:14
    could right I see that I think that's
  • 15:17
    the same that's going on in the US more
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    of the vitriol and the anger and the
  • 15:22
    hate is all on online and it's just
  • 15:25
    really not spilling over and I think
  • 15:27
    people get tired of it too and you can
  • 15:29
    just turn it off you walk away like okay
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    I got my my frustration out I'm done so
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    it may be a good thing in a way well I
  • 15:38
    think it's a good and a bad thing yeah
  • 15:40
    you have to take action for somebody
  • 15:42
    else have to take action for somebody
  • 15:43
    that is important
  • 15:46
    you're not gonna do it you're just gonna
  • 15:48
    promote online is in whatever you know
  • 15:50
    as California is the perfect example of
  • 15:52
    that the high-tech state that it is they
  • 15:53
    just overrun by Democrats get in their
  • 15:56
    own way
  • 15:56
    and it's so different than for example
  • 16:00
    France I have a clip and I'll put it
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    just play the step on the gas tax in
  • 16:06
    France oh yeah I was hearing about this
  • 16:08
    one last second yes in France at least
  • 16:12
    one person is dead and dozens injured
  • 16:13
    after protests against the country's
  • 16:16
    increasing gas taxes the demonstrators
  • 16:19
    wore yellow vests and blocked roads
  • 16:21
    across France in an effort to send a
  • 16:23
    message to President Emmanuel macron a
  • 16:24
    woman trying to make her way through the
  • 16:27
    crowd in a car panicked hitting the
  • 16:29
    group she's now in custody McCrone
  • 16:31
    implemented the taxes to decrease fossil
  • 16:34
    fuel consumption protesters argue that
  • 16:36
    attack his taxes placed an undue burden
  • 16:39
    on poor citizens and in fact the taxes
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    due to create an undue burden for
  • 16:46
    citizens in the United States especially
  • 16:47
    in California we have a lot of poor a
  • 16:49
    lot we have a lot of poor and but nobody
  • 16:53
    cares the Democrats put it through for
  • 16:56
    the same two purposes I mean for fixing
  • 16:59
    roads even though the told taxes were
  • 17:01
    for fixing roads but they they stole
  • 17:07
    this money too but these for fixing
  • 17:09
    roads and to keep people from using cars
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    in the first place which is more subtle
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    and everyone know yeah there's no good
  • 17:19
    we got to repeal the gas tax and then it
  • 17:21
    got passed anyway I have nobody wants to
  • 17:23
    I'm gonna really have a little more
  • 17:25
    exciting clip about the same topic over
  • 17:27
    200,000 protesters have blocked roads
  • 17:29
    and motorways across France causing many
  • 17:31
    accidents and one death
  • 17:37
    the interior ministry said 227 people
  • 17:41
    were injured in clashes with the police
  • 17:43
    and as drivers tried to get around the
  • 17:45
    blockades the grassroots protest
  • 17:48
    movements dubbed the yellow vests
  • 17:50
    targeted motorway slip roads tunnel
  • 17:53
    entrances and airport access roads 38
  • 17:57
    people were taken into custody the
  • 17:59
    protesters were angry as higher fuel
  • 18:01
    taxes and Preston's Emmanuel macron
  • 18:03
    economic policies which they say made
  • 18:06
    them poorer it was kind of a ruckus
  • 18:09
    there too
  • 18:11
    yeah or they showed the ruckus on CBS
  • 18:14
    but they didn't make it as exciting I
  • 18:16
    would like to put it no sir it is that
  • 18:18
    one which had more sound effects and
  • 18:20
    yeah it was sweet I just read about a
  • 18:28
    scam the IRS is pulling which I was very
  • 18:32
    surprised by this they've changed the
  • 18:35
    way they calculate inflation for the
  • 18:37
    2019 tax regulations or whatever yeah
  • 18:41
    it's not a law it's just the IRS
  • 18:43
    determining something and by changing
  • 18:45
    the way you calculate the inflation and
  • 18:51
    this goes to you know certain deductions
  • 18:53
    like the was it the one general
  • 18:57
    deduction you can takes twenty four
  • 18:58
    thousand if you're if you're a couple
  • 19:00
    what is that
  • 19:01
    hey dressing the wrong guy okay what's
  • 19:05
    the number the standard deduction I
  • 19:07
    think is what's called the way the way
  • 19:09
    they have done it is that because it's
  • 19:11
    based upon inflation and you know how
  • 19:14
    much you made and I'm not I'm not the
  • 19:16
    right guy either but the conclusions
  • 19:18
    this article which I put in the show
  • 19:19
    notes is that because they changed the
  • 19:21
    way they calculate inflation you
  • 19:23
    actually wind up paying more tax in
  • 19:25
    about a year and a half as you know this
  • 19:27
    this form this magic formula starts to
  • 19:30
    make it all groovy for the IRS it's like
  • 19:34
    a hidden little tax they put in there
  • 19:35
    just by simple math change they gouge
  • 19:38
    the public with that you know that's
  • 19:40
    that's messed up
  • 19:44
    I know I was surprised I know of course
  • 19:46
    but I'm just saying my goodness I can
  • 19:51
    say people I can see people bitching and
  • 19:53
    moaning online and then there's nothing
  • 19:55
    changes mm-hmm-hmm that's true
  • 19:58
    well I see a little uh brexit background
  • 20:02
    or so I'll just kind of blow through
  • 20:05
    some European news was the man who sorry
  • 20:08
    no I was just gonna say I do I actually
  • 20:10
    have the report from Canada I've did
  • 20:13
    I've added CBC which Amaya to my work
  • 20:16
    that's what I have here you're done hold
  • 20:18
    on why are you adding CBC when I've
  • 20:21
    already added CBC to my mix I've never
  • 20:24
    never noticed one CBC clip from you oh I
  • 20:28
    play them all the time it's just I don't
  • 20:30
    tell me the man who began this chaos
  • 20:36
    today me the man who began this chaos
  • 20:36
    Dominic robbed the terms proposed to the
  • 20:39
    cabinet yesterday I think had two major
  • 20:42
    and fatal flaws the first is that the
  • 20:45
    terms being offered by the EU threaten
  • 20:47
    the integrity of the United Kingdom and
  • 20:48
    the second is that they would lead to an
  • 20:50
    indefinite if not permanent situation or
  • 20:52
    we're locked into regime with no say of
  • 20:54
    the rules and the laws being applied
  • 20:56
    with no exit mechanism what would it
  • 20:59
    take for Teresa mais critics to actually
  • 21:02
    unseat her well it would take 48 letters
  • 21:06
    of no-confidence from Tory MPs according
  • 21:08
    to the rules of the ruling Conservative
  • 21:11
    Party they need letters of no-confidence
  • 21:13
    from 15% of sitting MPs and right now
  • 21:15
    that number stands at 48 it doesn't look
  • 21:17
    like they have that number yet but they
  • 21:19
    may yet and get there Theresa May
  • 21:21
    despite all this turmoil still showing
  • 21:23
    up the House of Commons today to defend
  • 21:24
    her plan here's what she said choice is
  • 21:26
    clear we can choose to leave with no
  • 21:29
    deal we can risk no brexit at all or we
  • 21:33
    can choose
  • 21:34
    [Applause] choose
  • 21:39
    Oh or we can choose to unite to support
  • 21:44
    the best deal that can be negotiated
  • 21:46
    this deal now there is an EU summit
  • 21:50
    planned for later this month to discuss
  • 21:51
    this deal with the 27 other EU member
  • 21:55
    states but with all this turmoil here at
  • 21:57
    home it's not at all clear whether
  • 21:58
    that'll happen to animals and will just
  • 22:00
    add to some local color
  • 22:02
    pretty much everything I've been
  • 22:04
    watching on TV news wise here so that's
  • 22:06
    the Netherlands France Belgium Germany
  • 22:08
    the UK except for the UK in the in the
  • 22:11
    EU part everyone's like wow you know
  • 22:14
    this looks pretty good nothing we're not
  • 22:16
    too excited it's gonna be all great yeah
  • 22:18
    yeah there's no one's freaking out they
  • 22:21
    don't really care one way the other just
  • 22:22
    doesn't seem to be a big deal here
  • 22:26
    well that's Kizuna in Poland now there's
  • 22:30
    something she said in there that I
  • 22:32
    thought was peculiar mm-hmm she had
  • 22:35
    three choices
  • 22:37
    we can do No Deal yeah we can do heart
  • 22:43
    get about it and just stay in the EU no
  • 22:47
    brexit yeah which was choice number two
  • 22:49
    and the turbos take this deal which is
  • 22:51
    the best deal she says much is that 528
  • 22:54
    or 545 page doctor right no but a No
  • 22:58
    Deal brexit is different from do nothing
  • 23:03
    the No Deal brexit was choice one the
  • 23:08
    second one was to take our chances and
  • 23:10
    stay and not do the brexit yes correct
  • 23:13
    how is that a possibility
  • 23:17
    you see when you slip it in then people
  • 23:20
    don't think about the fact that they had
  • 23:22
    a referendum about it you know you just
  • 23:24
    slip those words envy you guys oh that
  • 23:26
    seems like a choice who knows I think
  • 23:31
    they're gonna try to do then why would
  • 23:33
    you put that in as an option when it's
  • 23:34
    not really an option unless the whole
  • 23:36
    thing is a scam in other words the the
  • 23:38
    brexit vote means nothing you know and I
  • 23:42
    mean I can see that second option
  • 23:44
    well week I guess we can't do that
  • 23:46
    because of the brexit vote let's do the
  • 23:48
    brexit vote again right so that's the
  • 23:49
    only way to do a we have a we hit what's
  • 23:51
    in March its March we got like
  • 23:55
    three four months before March comes
  • 23:57
    around we can here we go I would do over
  • 23:59
    easy in that time yeah mm-hmm you know
  • 24:05
    that well my I got the Canadian report
  • 24:07
    okay that good one interesting little
  • 24:10
    tidbit in there okay hold on I want it
  • 24:12
    nice shoes
  • 24:13
    hold on one sec I see at least three
  • 24:15
    clips that you have that I have from CBC
  • 24:20
    so the only thing I'm gonna ask you is
  • 24:22
    did you get these emailed from a
  • 24:24
    producer because I did no I got him
  • 24:27
    straight from the CBC I have a deep I
  • 24:32
    was just approached with the three are
  • 24:34
    I'm curious well I have the the kilogram
  • 24:37
    and so I had this one and there must be
  • 24:42
    another one was the third one I can't
  • 24:45
    find right now yeah this couple it's
  • 24:47
    alright I just want to grab one I
  • 24:49
    thought was just a filler but is the
  • 24:52
    Canadian view of brexit and they have a
  • 24:53
    bunch of stuff and what's in here that I
  • 24:55
    thought was interesting was the bookies
  • 24:57
    have dropped the bet yes I absolutely do
  • 25:04
    I'm also looking forward to continuing
  • 25:06
    to work with all my government
  • 25:07
    colleagues colleagues in Parliament in
  • 25:08
    order to make sure that we get the best
  • 25:09
    future for Britain and on radio this
  • 25:12
    morning may again insisted that's
  • 25:15
    exactly what her plan will do I believe
  • 25:18
    this is true to believe this is the best
  • 25:19
    deal for Britain alright so how's it all
  • 25:21
    going down with the British public who
  • 25:23
    decided all this in the end Thomas Degla
  • 25:25
    took to the streets of London with that
  • 25:27
    brexit plan in hand to ask people what
  • 25:30
    they think no one said it would be light
  • 25:32
    reading this is the document that has
  • 25:35
    offended British politics Theresa Mays
  • 25:38
    fully detailed brexit plan approved in
  • 25:41
    cabinet all 585 pages of it it sure is
  • 25:45
    causing a fuss in the government but
  • 25:47
    what about on the street have you
  • 25:50
    actually held it and to see how heavy it
  • 25:51
    is yeah how much do you think
  • 25:56
    politicians actually know about what's
  • 25:57
    in here yeah probably probably very
  • 26:00
    little here yeah probably probably very
  • 26:01
    how do you feel the Prime Minister is
  • 26:03
    handling this oh well I don't know I
  • 26:06
    don't know how anyone could handle it
  • 26:08
    you could argue about the pros and cons
  • 26:10
    of the detail I think she has handled
  • 26:13
    herself amazingly she can at least
  • 26:15
    expect loyalty from her fellow party
  • 26:18
    members they're just waiting to stick
  • 26:20
    the knife in hoping to briefly escape
  • 26:22
    that Tory infighting the prime minister
  • 26:25
    turned to ordinary Brits on a radio
  • 26:27
    call-in show the first caller demanded
  • 26:33
    she quit I respectfully ask you to do
  • 26:36
    the right thing enough interested stand
  • 26:37
    down to allow someone from the brexit
  • 26:39
    counter take the lead to the premises
  • 26:40
    instead Mae pledged this decisions on
  • 26:43
    things like who could come into this
  • 26:45
    country will be taken by us here in the
  • 26:47
    UK and not by Brussels and that's
  • 26:49
    exactly what the deal I've negotiated
  • 26:51
    delivers so there's no question she is
  • 26:54
    resilient facing down internal revolt
  • 26:56
    time after time the bookmakers had
  • 26:59
    stopped taking bets on Mays demise but
  • 27:02
    now they say the odds are she could
  • 27:05
    survive news coming out of Westminster
  • 27:07
    seems to suggest that if there was a
  • 27:09
    fight of no-confidence she may well just
  • 27:12
    squeak over the line her job and the
  • 27:15
    future of the country go hand in hand
  • 27:18
    brexit will shape britain and the final
  • 27:20
    deal will define brexit you know what I
  • 27:24
    like about these reports is everyone
  • 27:26
    talks about 500 pages and oh my goodness
  • 27:30
    but they never talk about what's in it
  • 27:32
    I'm not even one little bit really
  • 27:36
    seriously I mean there's a just wait dad
  • 27:40
    I need a big binder giant binders you
  • 27:43
    pass it around what they should do is
  • 27:45
    they should say hey look here's the
  • 27:47
    Lisbon Treaty you idiot signed it was
  • 27:49
    2,000 pages gee this is so I have a I
  • 27:54
    have an ISO from that particular
  • 27:58
    in particular this is do not know how
  • 28:01
    anyone could handle it I saw you want to
  • 28:03
    play then see if it's a qualifier oh
  • 28:05
    well I don't know I don't know how
  • 28:07
    anyone could handle it wait until you
  • 28:11
    hear my ISO later on then we'll make a
  • 28:12
    final decision oh I got another one -
  • 28:15
    it'll be a different story
  • 28:17
    I have a brexit for dummies that I got
  • 28:19
    in Dutch and I can just give you some
  • 28:21
    highlights because it seems to be
  • 28:23
    there's nothing that we've been talking
  • 28:25
    about in this and this agreement has
  • 28:27
    really changed you know the the this
  • 28:31
    will have the northern the Ireland
  • 28:33
    border issue then they have a they
  • 28:36
    finally determined it'll be 21 months
  • 28:38
    that they will remain a tu member so you
  • 28:42
    know that's so that's almost two years
  • 28:44
    they go back to the same fishing thing
  • 28:47
    which they still have to come up with a
  • 28:48
    deadline before you know the who's
  • 28:50
    fishing from whose water waters have
  • 28:54
    been given over to the EU yeah so that
  • 28:57
    won't change until the 1st of July 2020
  • 29:00
    that's when they still have to this I
  • 29:02
    mean it says here they still have to
  • 29:03
    flesh that out now they will yeah flesh
  • 29:06
    it out
  • 29:07
    well don't worry but we'll give us
  • 29:08
    something to do hey I'll tell you what
  • 29:11
    sign the contract and then we'll work on
  • 29:13
    the details later I'll tell you what
  • 29:25
    just sign it
  • 29:26
    and then we're working under get the
  • 29:28
    lawyer we'll work on it after you sign
  • 29:30
    it no I've had contracts where it said
  • 29:32
    it said that in the contract we'll work
  • 29:35
    on the details later after you sign this
  • 29:38
    sure the details later after you sign this
  • 29:39
    oh those are great contracts always turn
  • 29:42
    0 since the three million EU citizens
  • 29:47
    who were in the United Kingdom will be
  • 29:49
    able to stay but guess we talked about
  • 29:52
    the 40 billion euros that they'll have
  • 29:54
    to pay they still have not let me see
  • 29:59
    they they agree to come up with a trade
  • 30:03
    agreement I mean really they have
  • 30:04
    nothing as just a lot of agreement
  • 30:06
    agreements to an agreement to agree to
  • 30:08
    some stuff and in which he was entering
  • 30:11
    Cyprus stuff and in which he was entering
  • 30:13
    was the thing with Cyprus
  • 30:17
    hmm the thing with Cyprus
  • 30:19
    there's something weird about Seif and
  • 30:21
    Gibraltar so that's really the two other
  • 30:23
    we got to look at alters the problem
  • 30:26
    yeah yeah they okay gibraltars that is a
  • 30:29
    problem because you know it's considered
  • 30:31
    British because you know it's considered
  • 30:33
    yeah that will say it doesn't really
  • 30:35
    again it's just like we'll agree on
  • 30:37
    stuff it says nothing I can I just quote
  • 30:39
    Van Jones and say it's a nothing burger
  • 30:41
    no it's nothing burger mAb I don't see
  • 30:46
    much in it just don't let's talk about
  • 30:51
    the campfire for a moment first we have
  • 30:53
    to correct ourselves um as you asked me
  • 30:58
    where campfire the name came from I said
  • 31:01
    someone who said it came from a campfire
  • 31:03
    or no you said it came from a campfire
  • 31:05
    but that was verified as far as I'm
  • 31:08
    concerned by somebody on one of our
  • 31:10
    local news stations that said it came
  • 31:12
    from a campfire that was originating
  • 31:17
    that was the start of the fire and then
  • 31:19
    it was doubled up by some other element
  • 31:22
    either arson or the PG&E lines and
  • 31:24
    they're trying to get away from the PG&E
  • 31:26
    lines because of the liability issue so
  • 31:28
    they're just faking the news on that
  • 31:30
    well look a lot of people said that this
  • 31:33
    was called canna fire because it started
  • 31:35
    at Camp Creek Road
  • 31:37
    yeah Kent wasn't it called the camp
  • 31:39
    Creek fire I'm not gonna belabor the
  • 31:42
    point I just can't Creek Road fire
  • 31:46
    I'm I'm not saying we're here in there
  • 31:49
    here nor there
  • 31:50
    I mean a lot of people were like you
  • 31:52
    guys the litany now there's no people
  • 31:55
    everybody is all of a sudden out of the
  • 31:57
    blue has become the camp Creek Road fire
  • 32:00
    correct has become the camp Creek Road fire
  • 32:00
    I'm sorry camp fire starting on Camp
  • 32:03
    Creek Road which the way I've been
  • 32:06
    around this state forever and I know
  • 32:07
    that nomenclature is the way they name
  • 32:09
    things and they would they usually would
  • 32:11
    call it camp Creek fire not the camp
  • 32:14
    fire but okay whatever we got a lot of
  • 32:18
    notes because everybody who reads the
  • 32:20
    same news reports and it says it was
  • 32:23
    started on Camp Creek Road and the
  • 32:25
    corner of camp Creek and some other
  • 32:27
    place and fine so the latest in the
  • 32:30
    blame game which everyone likes to play
  • 32:32
    seems to be a story about a woman who
  • 32:36
    received an email from Pacific Gas and
  • 32:38
    Electric a day before the fire started
  • 32:40
    here's the report under otherwise pitch
  • 32:42
    black skies zigzagging flames caught a
  • 32:45
    terrifying picture in the Feather River
  • 32:47
    Canyon the camp fire will soon enter its
  • 32:50
    seventh day we're not pronouncing it
  • 32:53
    right it's the camp fire it's not camp
  • 32:55
    fire it's the camp fire a streak of
  • 32:57
    destruction that apparently started
  • 32:59
    somewhere near Betsy Kelly's doorstep
  • 33:01
    here I did receive an email from PG&E
  • 33:03
    and they said that they were coming out
  • 33:06
    here to do work on Wednesday on a power
  • 33:07
    line 3/4 in the mile away and that they
  • 33:11
    would need to come back and do another
  • 33:12
    on a power line on my property
  • 33:15
    Kelly hopes to organize a class action
  • 33:17
    lawsuit against PG&E as she grieves for
  • 33:20
    her friends in nearby Codd cow those
  • 33:22
    people lost everything ten years ago too
  • 33:26
    and no one's talking about him tonight
  • 33:30
    PG&E responded to this story telling NBC
  • 33:33
    Bay Area quote based on our initial
  • 33:35
    review the email correspondence but the
  • 33:37
    customer in question was about future
  • 33:39
    planned work on a different transmission
  • 33:41
    line in the area that line had
  • 33:43
    previously been de-energized and was not
  • 33:45
    operational when the camp fire started
  • 33:47
    PG&E also told us they're cooperating
  • 33:50
    fully with the investigation on a cause
  • 33:52
    though with Con Cal and many other
  • 33:54
    neighborhoods decimated calls for more
  • 33:57
    information winger and PG&E if this is
  • 34:00
    their fault they need to be held
  • 34:01
    accountable and they need to do more
  • 34:04
    than just jack up their rates and they
  • 34:06
    need to they need to help more there you
  • 34:10
    go to they need to help more there you
  • 34:10
    everyone is looking at PG&E which could
  • 34:14
    be the culprits as I would eat pockets
  • 34:18
    yeah as I was going through some stories
  • 34:21
    this was a you know one of those the
  • 34:23
    truth always comes out type deals and no
  • 34:26
    matter what you do the truth will just
  • 34:28
    slip out and you won't even notice it
  • 34:29
    yourself nor will your colleagues at the
  • 34:31
    news desk President Trump when he was in
  • 34:35
    France had something to say about the
  • 34:36
    wildfires devastating California this
  • 34:38
    weekend he wrote there is no reason for
  • 34:41
    these massive deadly and costly forest
  • 34:43
    fires in California except that forest
  • 34:45
    management is so poor he accuses
  • 34:47
    officials of mismanaging by the way
  • 34:49
    you're gonna want to listen to the guy
  • 34:50
    at the end not her she's just important
  • 34:53
    for the set up the force an adze quote
  • 34:55
    remedy now for no more fed payment I
  • 34:59
    want to get Tom Seder in here from the
  • 35:01
    CNN severe weather center and Tom some
  • 35:03
    west coast via Weather Center
  • 35:05
    firefighters had an answer for the
  • 35:07
    president I want to read part of it to
  • 35:08
    you the head of the Pasadena Fire
  • 35:10
    Association writing mr. president with
  • 35:12
    all due respect you are wrong the fires
  • 35:14
    in SoCal are urban interface fires and
  • 35:17
    have nothing to do with force management
  • 35:20
    come to SoCal and learn the facts and
  • 35:22
    help the victims Tom a strong statement
  • 35:25
    there from the California firefighters
  • 35:28
    fact-check president Trump's tweet for
  • 35:29
    us okay you know I enjoy being in the
  • 35:32
    weather department because it's neutral
  • 35:34
    you know with the exception of climate
  • 35:35
    change issues but or neutral
  • 35:42
    except for the issue of climate change
  • 35:46
    dad is clip of the day I was loving it
  • 35:49
    so much the reason is clip of the day is
  • 35:55
    because you're right it would just go
  • 35:57
    yeah we're in neutral except for this
  • 35:59
    meaning you're not neutral about climate
  • 36:02
    change it is so it but since they're all
  • 36:05
    in on on the whole thing they can't even
  • 36:09
    see it themselves that he said that
  • 36:11
    there's fact-check president Trump's
  • 36:12
    tweet for us okay you know I enjoy being
  • 36:15
    in the weather department because it's
  • 36:17
    neutral you know with the exception of
  • 36:18
    climate change issues but just listen to
  • 36:23
    the guy you know you continues these
  • 36:25
    don't even think about it but holy crap
  • 36:27
    it's so true so true now being outside
  • 36:32
    of the US you have different filters
  • 36:35
    when stuff is coming in comes in
  • 36:36
    different times of the day and it's to
  • 36:38
    me very enjoyable it's just you know
  • 36:40
    just so refreshing different kinds of
  • 36:42
    news sports news fart gate I mean come
  • 36:44
    on I'm having a great time over here but
  • 36:47
    there's something that happened
  • 36:48
    surrounding the fire and a quote from
  • 36:51
    Trump and man we really got to watch it
  • 36:53
    because this is happening more and more
  • 36:56
    often where there's a little quote from
  • 37:00
    the president which it turns out is you
  • 37:03
    know it doesn't just happen with Trump
  • 37:04
    it turns out with you know this should
  • 37:05
    be the defending Trump said I need a
  • 37:07
    jingle for this items gonna defend Trump
  • 37:15
    [Music] for this items gonna defend Trump
  • 37:20
    so I would you know Twitter explodes in
  • 37:23
    front of my very eyes what an ad what a
  • 37:25
    moron what G I've got people I pretend
  • 37:29
    this is just our producers not even
  • 37:30
    Twitter man this is just people who we
  • 37:32
    know yeah we've got guys from Finland
  • 37:35
    what an idiot doesn't even know that
  • 37:37
    does not to say we don't have the same
  • 37:39
    climate droids you're gonna rake
  • 37:41
    everything into safety and when you hear
  • 37:45
    the segment which is out of context of
  • 37:48
    the entire affair
  • 37:49
    yeah it sounds kind of stupid this is
  • 37:52
    actually the longest version I was able
  • 37:54
    to find most of them were 37 seconds
  • 37:56
    this is 43 seconds long but you'll see
  • 38:00
    quickly why it sounds like the president
  • 38:02
    is it is it blubbering moron
  • 38:05
    Gavin's committed we'll all committed
  • 38:07
    I'm committed to make sure that take
  • 38:13
    care of the floors
  • 38:14
    you know the floors of the forest is
  • 38:16
    very important you look at other
  • 38:18
    countries where they do it differently
  • 38:21
    and it's a whole different story I was
  • 38:24
    with the president of Finland that he
  • 38:26
    said we have much different we're a
  • 38:29
    forest nation he called it a forest
  • 38:30
    nation it sounds like he just launches
  • 38:50
    into well you know we got to rake the
  • 38:52
    floor just like Finland does cuz you
  • 38:54
    know we all know they have the same
  • 38:55
    climate and that is real dementia
  • 39:00
    thinking it's when you're completely
  • 39:03
    stuck if you watch this whole news
  • 39:05
    conference and there was Gavin Newsome
  • 39:09
    President Trump and Governor Brown all
  • 39:13
    next to each other with a significant
  • 39:15
    distance between Trump and Braun they
  • 39:18
    were not standing really right next to
  • 39:20
    each other and Trump yet for the whole
  • 39:23
    East news Newton Newsome oh yeah we had
  • 39:25
    a lot of coverage of that here Newsome
  • 39:26
    was right actually Newsome was chatting
  • 39:29
    away as much as he could because he
  • 39:31
    knows he has to work with Trump yep at
  • 39:33
    some point in California some huge
  • 39:35
    trouble and he knows he's got to make
  • 39:37
    himself look good if he wants to run in
  • 39:38
    2024 and cuz he is that's his goal in
  • 39:42
    life and Brown is just a grumpy old man
  • 39:45
    he's just standing back there he doesn't
  • 39:47
    even know what happened so Brown was
  • 39:49
    standing there Trump thanked everybody
  • 39:52
    calling out guys off-camera who you
  • 39:54
    don't know
  • 39:55
    everybody except Jerry Brown and every
  • 39:58
    thanked everybody how what a great job
  • 40:00
    they were doing and so I skipped a lot
  • 40:03
    of that I'm just gonna play you know
  • 40:05
    this is about a minute forty five of
  • 40:08
    what he was really talking about then it
  • 40:11
    goes to brown and when Browns talking
  • 40:13
    man you've got to see this video Trump
  • 40:15
    crosses his arms he backs off and you
  • 40:17
    know he's doing like a like one of those
  • 40:19
    stances with his head kind of cocked
  • 40:21
    looking over to the left like what do
  • 40:22
    you want to say jerk off it's very
  • 40:24
    aggressive but when you put it all into
  • 40:27
    context what he's saying it's not that
  • 40:29
    crazy and there's a reason why the
  • 40:31
    United States logger Association agrees
  • 40:33
    with him what he said but that's out of
  • 40:36
    context he sounds like a dick from the
  • 40:40
    federal government notice the PC man
  • 40:58
    power woman power after a terrible
  • 41:08
    tragedy so it's basically people that
  • 41:11
    are right here he's clearly saying
  • 41:20
    nothing he's just blabbering
  • 41:22
    so expertise together is there any way
  • 41:28
    to prevent this from happening again mr.
  • 41:30
    president it's a important question is
  • 41:32
    there any way to prevent this from
  • 41:34
    happening again mr. president well we've
  • 41:36
    been talking about that on the ride over
  • 41:38
    and I think we're all on the same path
  • 41:41
    we do have to do management maintenance
  • 41:44
    and we'll be working also with
  • 41:47
    environmental groups they've really I
  • 41:49
    think everybody's seen the light and we
  • 41:53
    I don't think we'll have this again to
  • 41:55
    this extent we're gonna have to work
  • 41:56
    quickly but a lot of people are very
  • 41:59
    much there's been a lot of study going
  • 42:02
    on over the last little while and I well
  • 42:04
    I will say I think you're gonna have
  • 42:06
    hopefully this is going to be the last
  • 42:07
    of these because this was a really
  • 42:11
    really bad one
  • 42:12
    and I know Gavin's committed we'll all
  • 42:15
    committed I'm committed to make sure
  • 42:17
    that all of this cleaned out and
  • 42:20
    protected all of this cleaned out and
  • 42:21
    take care of the floors you know the
  • 42:23
    floors of the forest is very important
  • 42:25
    you see when you hear now in context it
  • 42:28
    makes a lot more sense
  • 42:32
    you know the thing about this of course
  • 42:34
    particulars won't happen again as a joke
  • 42:37
    as we we have nothing but these fires
  • 42:40
    every year and it's been going on since
  • 42:42
    I was a little kid and but in the olden
  • 42:45
    days they used to do brush burn offs and
  • 42:47
    there's we had a couple of people write
  • 42:48
    us some of our producers saying that
  • 42:50
    they've been mismanaging the they
  • 42:52
    stopped doing a lot of stuff they used
  • 42:54
    to do burn bad sure we used to when I
  • 42:57
    was at the air pollution district they
  • 42:59
    used to have these they used to burn
  • 43:01
    these Ducks Unlimited had a huge it had
  • 43:04
    a kind of an unlimited permit to do all
  • 43:06
    these burns and they do these massive
  • 43:08
    burns in these areas that were very
  • 43:10
    flammable to really Ducks to come in and
  • 43:14
    that haven't seen that for 20 years yeah
  • 43:17
    I had the fact that half the stuff that
  • 43:19
    used to go on when I was at the air
  • 43:21
    pollution district it was all done for
  • 43:23
    management purposes the mostly burn off
  • 43:26
    Sandburg controlled burns all over the
  • 43:28
    California I don't even do controlled
  • 43:31
    burns anymore that said I think it's
  • 43:32
    just an accumulation and we've been
  • 43:34
    lucky until now because in the month of
  • 43:39
    October usually especially up there
  • 43:40
    where that fire was there's always had
  • 43:43
    at least a week of rain that would just
  • 43:46
    soak everything down and there's no way
  • 43:48
    it's gonna catch on fire but we've been
  • 43:49
    dry up there right for the whole time
  • 43:53
    and then this thing catches on fire and
  • 43:54
    goes nuts
  • 43:55
    and and after that is the current if it
  • 43:57
    wasn't for that they would have kept
  • 43:59
    going but they need to get back to their
  • 44:00
    old policies more job of controlled
  • 44:03
    burns all over the state they don't do
  • 44:05
    them and then you add to that that
  • 44:07
    because they're not really clearing
  • 44:08
    things out and not doing the same amount
  • 44:10
    of logging they used to that there's all
  • 44:12
    these trees are competing for the same
  • 44:13
    water and that just makes it drier
  • 44:18
    I wouldn't argue against that well
  • 44:20
    that's what the the loggers say I'm
  • 44:22
    gonna see where is this loggers were
  • 44:24
    right yeah it's the you see what's the
  • 44:26
    name is loggers organization
  • 44:30
    and loggers don't like this any more
  • 44:34
    than any but as they lost a lot of logs
  • 44:36
    yeah why did they stop logging I don't
  • 44:40
    understand that at all
  • 44:45
    no logging organizational augers Council
  • 44:47
    a coalition of state and regional
  • 44:49
    associations that represents independent
  • 44:51
    contract loggers Vega so they they agree
  • 44:58
    and so you have a disaster like this is
  • 45:01
    a bunch of dead people there's not the
  • 45:02
    over a thousand still missing that's the
  • 45:04
    latest name yeah it's pretty bad
  • 45:07
    a day wrecker I would say yeah and
  • 45:12
    there's no emergency system that tell
  • 45:14
    people I'm initiative Benna but they
  • 45:17
    never thought of something like this
  • 45:18
    happening it's never happened before in
  • 45:19
    this area
  • 45:20
    no and look how much greener use it is
  • 45:24
    than usual oh it's kind of brown now but
  • 45:27
    okay I'm just don't worry about it let's
  • 45:30
    talk about our sunlight yes
  • 45:33
    now go on no no I was gonna move to
  • 45:35
    another topic so go ahead oh well let's
  • 45:39
    talk about Assange oh ok good yes I have
  • 45:42
    been reading I'm glad you have something
  • 45:44
    because I don't really have an Amy clip
  • 45:47
    and I think she probably puts it as well
  • 45:49
    as anybody because they're big Assange
  • 45:50
    supporters but this is the Assange
  • 45:53
    indited whoops clip King the Justice
  • 45:58
    Department has inadvertently revealed
  • 46:00
    and has prepared an indictment against
  • 46:02
    WikiLeaks founder Julian Assange in an
  • 46:04
    unusual development language about the
  • 46:07
    charges against Assange were copied and
  • 46:09
    pasted into an unrelated court filing
  • 46:11
    that was recently unsealed in the
  • 46:14
    document assistant US attorney Kellan
  • 46:16
    Dwyer wrote due to the sophistication of
  • 46:19
    the defendant and the publicity
  • 46:21
    surrounding the case no other procedure
  • 46:24
    is likely to keep confidential the fact
  • 46:26
    that Assange has been charged unquote
  • 46:29
    the news broke Thursday night just hours
  • 46:32
    after The Wall Street Journal reported
  • 46:33
    the Justice Department was planning to
  • 46:35
    prosecute Assange okay so this was some
  • 46:40
    intern or some low paid millennial and
  • 46:43
    blaming the bodies the boilerplate but
  • 46:51
    they didn't cut and paste the
  • 46:52
    boilerplate they cut and pasted this
  • 46:54
    information shows where's our checks and
  • 46:59
    balances damn it
  • 47:01
    so so they also had on the lawyer bahala
  • 47:05
    what does this mean because I really
  • 47:07
    haven't followed the story what what
  • 47:08
    does it mean for Assange what is
  • 47:11
    happening with him I mean it did this
  • 47:14
    didn't help me understand his what it
  • 47:16
    means is that all these lies that we've
  • 47:19
    been hearing aestheticized was and his
  • 47:23
    lawyers were right that the United
  • 47:24
    States was out to get him right now
  • 47:26
    normally this right so that means what
  • 47:30
    he stays where he is or haven't died and
  • 47:33
    charged him even though they denied it
  • 47:35
    because they didn't want him to get wind
  • 47:37
    of it because and he's gonna dunk her
  • 47:38
    down longer and now they gonna have to
  • 47:40
    put pressure on the Ecuador he has to
  • 47:42
    get him out right right and they're
  • 47:43
    willing to do that but there's a lot of
  • 47:45
    stories that I don't believe half of
  • 47:48
    them is like well apparently the sauce
  • 47:50
    doesn't BAE then he's stinking up the
  • 47:52
    embassy political asylum ejected for
  • 48:06
    being smelly come on
  • 48:09
    so let's play this WikiLeaks Pompeo
  • 48:12
    Jennifer Robison retort to the clip well
  • 48:15
    Pompeo statements is the head of the CIA
  • 48:17
    demonstrate the the fervor within the
  • 48:21
    CIA and certainly to be seeking
  • 48:22
    wikileaks prosecution but to say that
  • 48:24
    published receiving and publishing
  • 48:26
    information in the public interest is an
  • 48:28
    attack on Western values is frankly
  • 48:30
    wrong and a dangerous statement becoming
  • 48:32
    from the head of the CIA and someone
  • 48:34
    who's been very senior in the Trump
  • 48:35
    administration been very senior in the Trump
  • 48:36
    this is cuts at the heart of
  • 48:38
    constitutional protections for free
  • 48:40
    speech it is protected under the US
  • 48:42
    Constitution to receive and publish
  • 48:44
    information that's in the public
  • 48:45
    interest even classified information and
  • 48:47
    that any publisher including WikiLeaks
  • 48:49
    could be called a hostile non-state
  • 48:51
    intelligence agency when media
  • 48:53
    organizations around the world all the
  • 48:54
    time including the New York Times
  • 48:56
    including the Washington Post receive
  • 48:58
    classified information and publish it
  • 49:00
    when it's in the public interest to say
  • 49:02
    that that is an attack on Western values
  • 49:04
    is a very dangerous statement from the
  • 49:05
    head of the CIA that ought to be
  • 49:07
    investigated yeah what about press
  • 49:09
    freedom yeah what about press
  • 49:11
    I know it makes us think that actually
  • 49:13
    should have been part two of this of
  • 49:14
    this clip which is the original Pompeo
  • 49:17
    quote WikiLeaks Pompeo quotes let me go
  • 49:20
    to Secretary of State Mike Pompeo last
  • 49:23
    year just after he became CIA director
  • 49:27
    and Pompeyo his first major address he
  • 49:30
    blasted WikiLeaks it's time to call out
  • 49:33
    WikiLeaks for what it really is a non
  • 49:36
    state hostile intelligence service often
  • 49:38
    abetted by state actors like Russia in
  • 49:40
    reality they champion nothing but their
  • 49:42
    own celebrity their currency is
  • 49:44
    clickbait their moral compass
  • 49:46
    non-existent their mission personal self
  • 49:49
    aggrandizement through destruction of
  • 49:51
    Western values so that was Pompeo of
  • 49:55
    course this certainly went against what
  • 49:59
    his boss President Trump had said I
  • 50:02
    believe in the campaign in a month or
  • 50:05
    two he raised WikiLeaks praised
  • 50:08
    WikiLeaks well over a hundred times
  • 50:11
    let's go to one of those moments let's
  • 50:22
    just review for a moment because it
  • 50:26
    first if they're gonna do anything with
  • 50:28
    Julian Assange they also need to arrest
  • 50:30
    Glenn Greenwald as you know it was Glenn
  • 50:33
    Greenwald who actually broke all the
  • 50:36
    stories and past as we reported on many
  • 50:38
    times past each time they were going to
  • 50:41
    report on something they sent it to CIA
  • 50:44
    to the White House and said here's what
  • 50:46
    we're going to report do you have any
  • 50:47
    comments anything to be taken out and
  • 50:49
    they would either say nothing or I don't
  • 50:52
    think there was any case where they
  • 50:53
    really said you can't leave that in but
  • 50:55
    they knew about it and grin Glenn
  • 50:57
    Greenwald was right they're publishing
  • 51:01
    and this is the people fork ahead but
  • 51:03
    this is insane
  • 51:05
    press freedom
  • 51:07
    yeah then they go into all this thing
  • 51:09
    then they're making a big fuss about Jim
  • 51:11
    Acosta you know press pass even though
  • 51:14
    apparently according to at least some
  • 51:16
    sources there's about 40 of them that
  • 51:18
    have been issued to CNN and different
  • 51:20
    people and this is one guy and they make
  • 51:23
    a big fuss about that and where is the
  • 51:25
    media on this where are the protests
  • 51:27
    where is the petition like the petition
  • 51:29
    that came out the University of
  • 51:29
    California condemning the White House
  • 51:32
    this is the University of California
  • 51:33
    Berkeley and so which we've associated
  • 51:36
    with the CIA
  • 51:37
    especially the Graduate journalism
  • 51:39
    Department which is where this came from
  • 51:41
    and to remind people why we do that is
  • 51:45
    because so many people have been
  • 51:46
    cropping up from that up from that group
  • 51:49
    the graduate school in various weird
  • 51:52
    spots and you remember the the two
  • 51:54
    Chinese girls that were up in North
  • 51:57
    Koreans into the country and then were
  • 51:59
    captured and Clinton had to go rescue
  • 52:01
    him Bill Clinton had to go fly over
  • 52:03
    there yeah those two were from the
  • 52:06
    Graduate School of Journalism at Cal yes
  • 52:09
    and then they this crazy group of three
  • 52:12
    people that were somehow walking through
  • 52:15
    the minefield
  • 52:16
    there were hikers they were hikers they
  • 52:19
    Rock border and wandered into Iran for
  • 52:23
    some unknown reason on their hike
  • 52:25
    through the minefields and they were all
  • 52:27
    captured let me well they were all from
  • 52:29
    the graduate school yeah they were
  • 52:31
    captured and by the way they were all
  • 52:33
    captured and charged as spies they're
  • 52:36
    both in North Korea and Iran and so now
  • 52:39
    this same group comes up bitching and
  • 52:41
    moaning about Jim Acosta get you having
  • 52:43
    your license bill but where are they
  • 52:44
    where is the protest from any of the
  • 52:46
    journalists in the entire country the
  • 52:48
    big-name journalists which probably work
  • 52:52
    on somebody else's payroll where are
  • 52:54
    they where's the bitching about shutting
  • 52:55
    down WikiLeaks where is it
  • 52:58
    press freedom baby and press freedom
  • 53:01
    give me one example press freedom so
  • 53:05
    what is a great source I was just
  • 53:07
    looking at it the other day there's all
  • 53:08
    kinds of cool stuff we can classify this
  • 53:10
    on the WikiLeaks pages well you know
  • 53:12
    we're in a complete alternative
  • 53:14
    dimension right now when it comes to the
  • 53:15
    mainstream media m5m is just they're off
  • 53:18
    but let's get back to Jim Acosta for a
  • 53:20
    second let's get back to Jim Acosta for a
  • 53:21
    here is this I mean if you ask anyone if
  • 53:24
    you even look at any newspaper articles
  • 53:26
    here it is
  • 53:27
    you know big win for the First Amendment
  • 53:29
    trump is unconstitutional had no I would
  • 53:32
    an idiot what a moron oh it's your trump
  • 53:35
    defense segment the judge the judge did
  • 53:40
    not rule on the First Amendment the
  • 53:43
    ruling is not saying what Acosta did was
  • 53:46
    right thing or the wrong thing the judge
  • 53:49
    ruled the president can't revoke his
  • 53:50
    credentials without due process and
  • 53:54
    that's all because of prior prior
  • 53:57
    procedures etc the judge himself even
  • 54:00
    says here was it wait not to go up
  • 54:09
    higher yes it's the New York Times
  • 54:14
    people have to behave and the ruling was
  • 54:16
    significant I want to emphasize the very
  • 54:18
    limited nature of this ruling the judge
  • 54:20
    said saying it was not meant to enshrine
  • 54:23
    journalists right to access
  • 54:26
    I have not determined the First
  • 54:28
    Amendment was violated here so this is
  • 54:31
    very important but that's not the story
  • 54:33
    the story is we won and Jim Acosta who
  • 54:37
    knows very well this had nothing to this
  • 54:39
    was not a First Amendment case as he's
  • 54:42
    coming in to work at the White House
  • 54:44
    again here his colleagues are all ready
  • 54:47
    to interview the big King Jim Acosta and
  • 54:50
    he is I mean he is actually spreading
  • 54:53
    fake news at this very moment in this
  • 54:55
    piece where he says great day for the
  • 54:58
    First Amendment and press freedom
  • 55:08
    you guys want to ask a question hey I'm
  • 55:10
    important one asked me a question hi hi
  • 55:16
    I just want to say that I'm very
  • 55:18
    grateful for what happened today and
  • 55:21
    grateful for my colleagues in the press
  • 55:23
    who stood by us this is just any other
  • 55:38
    day here at the White House I'm a
  • 55:39
    regular Joe for me I would like to get
  • 55:42
    back to work and so should you
  • 55:45
    so go back to work and we'll keep on
  • 55:49
    keep on doing our jobs journalists need
  • 55:51
    to know that in this country their First
  • 55:54
    Amendment rights freedom of the press
  • 56:00
    again nothing the judge ruled is about
  • 56:04
    the First Amendment and you know
  • 56:07
    throughout all of this I was confident
  • 56:10
    and I felt that this would be the result
  • 56:12
    at the end of the day that our rights
  • 56:15
    would be protected to continue to cover
  • 56:17
    our government and hold our leaders
  • 56:18
    accountable I can go on for another
  • 56:20
    minute and a half of him just saying how
  • 56:21
    great this was for the First Amendment
  • 56:23
    but this guy's a douchebag hasn't this
  • 56:26
    is the definition of fake news he is
  • 56:29
    standing there as if there was a First
  • 56:31
    Amendment case it just wasn't had
  • 56:33
    nothing to do with the freedom of the
  • 56:35
    press which he loves to call press
  • 56:37
    freedom it's despicable it's pretty
  • 56:42
    funny besides no agenda show and the
  • 56:48
    thing is it's right there in writing and
  • 56:52
    it's black and white all this is in the
  • 56:54
    New York Times you know which is the
  • 56:55
    paper of record and all you have to do
  • 56:57
    is just read it it says right there this
  • 57:00
    has nothing to do with First Amendment
  • 57:02
    the judge says there's nothing to read
  • 57:03
    the First Amendment it's just about
  • 57:04
    process and by the way this is this
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    lawsuit is not over there will be a
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    judgment about a lot more there's other
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    issues you know so will be the touching
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    of the intern all this other nonsense
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    but I don't think we're actually seeing
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    a First Amendment case here
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    but this is again it's the new speak of
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    freedom of the press which means the
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    press or really nice freedom
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    yeah but freedom of the no in the
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    Constitution freedom of the press means
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    the press can print whatever they want
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    they have the freedom to say whatever
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    they want that's their freedom this has
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    now been translated to press freedom
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    which is not the same thing and somehow
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    even as even though the judge literally
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    said this is not about access
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    - somehow everyone thinks that the the
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    press freedom means they deserve I mean
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    I want my press freedom let's go sit in
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    the White House we'll do a show from the
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    White House from the from the briefing
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    room we have press freedom we have the
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    right to be there you certainly do
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    you're a journalist
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    I'll go there tomorrow I know you're all
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    over it appreciate it
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    no it's pathetic and attentive this you
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    know I don't know but he's you know it
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    cost us
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    I think that you know Scott Adams did an
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    analysis of this guy and I have to give
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    him kudos on this one because he I think
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    he's right
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    he Scott everyday you know this is
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    whatever he does an hour before he five
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    minutes of you talking to a camera so he
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    goes on about he says that he says that
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    Trump is this trumps whole thing his
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    showmanship and it's designed to just
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    get a lot of attention and it's a lot of
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    it's nonsense
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    he says Acosta is the it's the best
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    example of the news media doing the
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    exact same thing he's just being Trump
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    yeah and and he says he's gets the Junos
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    attention if she draws attention to
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    himself off and he's not completely
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    convinced that the two of them are in
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    cahoots that's an interesting concept
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    that's an interesting idea
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    I think cuz Trump clearly doesn't know
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    how to handle him he has not figured out
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    yet what the what the right way is other
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    than crossing his arms and doing his
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    Mussolini gut you know is chin jut yeah
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    what's in the fish he says the cost is
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    just it's just pulling a trump and he's
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    really making hay with it and he is he's
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    doing he's doing a good job of that
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    Adams isn't concern as the Newsies doing
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    it but that is what he's doing it
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    because of cos it doesn't seem like that
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    he seems like a just a egomaniac but why
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    doesn't Trump just know I'd never call
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    on him that would work
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    I don't know it's it's not that
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    important to me
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    it was it was just it's just fun I
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    consider it it's important to the show
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    cause it because it allows us to play a
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    theme that you are not playing anymore
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    which is distraction of the week and I
  • 1:00:08
    think that their cost of things totally
  • 1:00:10
    a distraction of the week and with that
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    I'd like to thank you for your courage
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    and say in the morning to you John yes
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    in the morning to everyone in the troll
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    room who came upon there beckoning with
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    the bat signal which we flip on just
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    before we go live every Thursday and
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    Sunday morning no agenda stream comm
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    good to see you guys here thank you very
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    much it's it's always even especially
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    when I'm thousands of miles away it's
  • 1:00:55
    like a warm bath having you guys on the
  • 1:00:57
    industro room with me and in the morning
  • 1:01:01
    - Darren O'Neill brought us the artwork
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    for episode 1086 the title of that one
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    was shark hole and although we even got
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    one of our long-term producers yelling
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    at us for use if we're having the
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    audacity to choose a a cover art that
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    contained President Trump
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    we could not we just couldn't help
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    ourselves with him with the umbrella hat
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    what's that thing called the umbrella
  • 1:01:30
    hat umbrella we fought it out what is
  • 1:01:34
    called umbrella hat and I think there's
  • 1:01:35
    a name for it I don't think so we just
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    looked at it we were both cracking up he
  • 1:01:42
    had the right expression on his face
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    we always go for the cheap yes oh yes
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    you are
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    the cheap gag that has a little
  • 1:01:50
    dimensionality to it always will always
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    work that's the tip from Adam and John
  • 1:01:55
    cheap laughs are always the way to go
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    yeah achieve it the better yes all right
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    well let's thank a few people for
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    producing executive producing and so
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    associate executive producing show tens
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    87 sir Alex at the top of the list 333
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    dollars I sent resent him a news I
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    resent one of the newsletters out
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    because people work didn't open oh
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    really I was this date interesting
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    because you can use a function in
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    MailChimp where you can say who didn't
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    open his newsletter send it to him again
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    oh it gets a little convoluted
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    embarrassing us that may be a good way
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    to at least get to purge the list
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    did ya I won't comment on purging list
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    anyway rescinding the newsletter works
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    he says seven hours of windshield time
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    today no agenda kept me sane
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    oh he's driving mm-hmm Adam your crazy
  • 1:02:54
    dutch buddy wanting to change his legal
  • 1:02:56
    age has it all wrong you don't want to
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    identify as younger I want to identify
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    as a 67 year old give me my social
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    security benefits now I'm officially
  • 1:03:04
    retired yes that came up with a
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    conversation Billy interestingly because
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    this is not a done conversation in the
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    Netherlands of course people think that
  • 1:03:12
    that's the strongest part of his
  • 1:03:14
    argument he's saying well he's actually
  • 1:03:16
    trying to not take the the benefits from
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    from the community that's kind of a good
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    idea the community that's kind of a good
  • 1:03:25
    he's 69 so he's already eligible yeah so
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    collecting it's kind of the opposite
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    that's just a point of interest knitters
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    Ino jingles no karma Thomas Larry 222
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    dollars and 22 cents from Oslo Adam and
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    John first of all I'm feeling guilty for
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    the absent of absence of further
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    contributions to no agendas coffers for
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    this I apologize and as such request at
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    D douching yes let me bring up the
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    douche bucket here we are in order to
  • 1:03:59
    put things right I'm donating
  • 1:04:01
    tu-tu-tu-tu-tu-tu to support the show
  • 1:04:02
    the following is not a criticism but an
  • 1:04:04
    observation regarding the show's length
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    almost exclusively I listened to the
  • 1:04:10
    show in segments while commuting to my
  • 1:04:12
    job as I am sure many of your listeners
  • 1:04:15
    do however when you put out three hour
  • 1:04:17
    shows I'm often unable to take in the
  • 1:04:20
    show's full content before the next show
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    is released it's topicality after all is
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    what sets the show's apart from others
  • 1:04:29
    may I either suggestion
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    oh here we go I'm sorry I can't help but
  • 1:04:36
    laugh here we go I'm sorry I can't help but
  • 1:04:37
    may I suggest either a two-hour cutoff
  • 1:04:40
    or three shorter shows per week I have
  • 1:04:43
    another option how about you get a
  • 1:04:46
    different job
  • 1:04:48
    with a yak with a longer commute home
  • 1:04:52
    while doing the dishes you can listen
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    while making love I mean there's all
  • 1:04:55
    kinds of things you can do while you're
  • 1:04:58
    listening to our show just that last
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    idea yes may I suggest you the two or
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    three hours it's not gonna happen
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    would the show that lets well let me
  • 1:05:06
    finish this note thank you for keeping
  • 1:05:08
    me sane
  • 1:05:09
    I had already keep me ahead of the game
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    kind regards Thomas Larry a millennial
  • 1:05:13
    Norwegian hybrid British hybrid in Oslo
  • 1:05:16
    it's no touching now thank you
  • 1:05:23
    I've let Adam try to explain this and
  • 1:05:25
    out then I'll explain it myself as I
  • 1:05:27
    look up in Conklin's email why is the
  • 1:05:30
    show as long as it is Adam why is the
  • 1:05:34
    show you produced the show so why is it
  • 1:05:37
    as long as it is how did it get to this
  • 1:05:39
    length oh how did it get to this length
  • 1:05:44
    well the show in general okay the
  • 1:05:49
    internet made it the internet made it so
  • 1:05:51
    for a number of reasons when we started
  • 1:05:53
    the show 11 years ago the internet was
  • 1:05:56
    much much slower we did not have social
  • 1:05:59
    networks the news flow was just not so
  • 1:06:04
    vast as what is available now we didn't
  • 1:06:07
    have such incredibly divided divisive
  • 1:06:10
    comprar conversations going on okay can
  • 1:06:13
    I take it no and then as we started to
  • 1:06:17
    do as we grew with the bandwidth
  • 1:06:19
    available which is not just data but
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    information we went to a second donation
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    segment and that I think is what made
  • 1:06:26
    the show inherently longer is by
  • 1:06:28
    sticking to the second donation segment
  • 1:06:30
    which we needed because we were also
  • 1:06:32
    receiving more support
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    hmm here's what happened we started off
  • 1:06:40
    the show us 45 minutes or 30 minutes and
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    we didn't know there was gonna be talked
  • 1:06:44
    a little longer we said it was it was a
  • 1:06:46
    evolution it didn't have much to do with
  • 1:06:49
    the bandwidth or the donations that a
  • 1:06:50
    nation segment was part of cutting back
  • 1:06:53
    the time not extending it because the
  • 1:06:56
    time was getting too long wish we could
  • 1:06:58
    finally got to her like it became 2
  • 1:06:59
    hours and we figured all like this is
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    about right we do 2 hours a week and
  • 1:07:03
    then we at some point about a year and a
  • 1:07:05
    half and we added a second show thinking
  • 1:07:07
    that we could maybe even add a third
  • 1:07:09
    show and then we got to 2 hours of show
  • 1:07:12
    and then it went to these you can just
  • 1:07:13
    look at the list of the archives and you
  • 1:07:15
    see it just creeps up it crept up longer
  • 1:07:18
    and longer and longer and that now the
  • 1:07:21
    the donations segment was actually it
  • 1:07:24
    was separated into two for the show he
  • 1:07:26
    put the particular producers aside but
  • 1:07:28
    what really happened to that segment was
  • 1:07:31
    people were writing long noted donated
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    but yeah yeah and they write a two-hour
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    note it's like you know a good scroll
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    and scroll and scroll and it was we just
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    cut off all these notes low-end notes
  • 1:07:43
    because there's everybody to get their
  • 1:07:45
    two cents worth in it we could have done
  • 1:07:47
    a whole show of just reading comments
  • 1:07:49
    from from the listeners and so we have
  • 1:07:52
    it so we changed no hold on I'm ending
  • 1:07:54
    the show here John it's time to go then
  • 1:08:06
    we had the two of us after the show we
  • 1:08:08
    started going on and on about we got to
  • 1:08:10
    cut the show down and we tried to make
  • 1:08:12
    it two hours and 45 minutes period and
  • 1:08:14
    we'd still drift into three hours often
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    if we were given we noticed cuz we did a
  • 1:08:19
    seven hour show once remember
  • 1:08:23
    and we did it a seven and a half to be
  • 1:08:25
    exact and we did it without it without a
  • 1:08:27
    problem we yeah no one's lost their
  • 1:08:30
    voices we could do an eight-hour show
  • 1:08:32
    twice a week we ain't no pussies
  • 1:08:36
    I'm just doing a diamond and pearl with
  • 1:08:37
    you go ahead we exactly we could do
  • 1:08:42
    longer and longer stop growing the shows
  • 1:08:45
    length because it's annoying to people
  • 1:08:47
    like yourself and everybody else
  • 1:08:48
    annoying but I think this is knowing
  • 1:08:51
    what it gets to try for I'm just do I'm
  • 1:08:53
    just doing the the got myself yeah yeah
  • 1:08:56
    you gotta be Louie get him word to twing
  • 1:08:58
    okay I'll try but so we've decided to 45
  • 1:09:03
    is our length 40 vote usually that's
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    right no three to 45
  • 1:09:08
    but that's rusty three that's right
  • 1:09:11
    basically that we're just falling down
  • 1:09:13
    by two hours and 45 minutes we're just
  • 1:09:15
    tired and I think we're also done
  • 1:09:16
    talking to each other honestly
  • 1:09:20
    yeah yeah I do you have any Conklin's a
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    note yes I do
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    okay that's right uh-huh let's go back
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    to our spreadsheet and finish this
  • 1:09:36
    segment off that's it it's actually M
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    Mason Conklin I have no idea why it went
  • 1:09:42
    through PayPal was an N 214 dollars and
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    33 cents and he writes a former
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    associate producer an ex executive
  • 1:09:51
    producer giving value where value is do
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    forgive me pod fathers it has been oh oh
  • 1:09:54
    I'm getting that you've got a little
  • 1:09:57
    upgrade there here's my last donation I
  • 1:10:01
    don't get I don't always get the news
  • 1:10:03
    but when I do I get it from No Agenda
  • 1:10:05
    life is so much better without the
  • 1:10:07
    Talking Heads spewing from the boob tube
  • 1:10:09
    or the car speakers I'd much rather have
  • 1:10:12
    your take on Trent transmitted directly
  • 1:10:14
    to my ears via bluetooth listening to
  • 1:10:17
    the history of podcasting took me back
  • 1:10:19
    to my dissertation writing days the
  • 1:10:21
    topic of the dissertation was musical
  • 1:10:22
    performance and anxiety in virtual
  • 1:10:25
    performances hmm that's interesting i
  • 1:10:29
    hypothesized that performances that were
  • 1:10:31
    recorded in private for a podcast
  • 1:10:33
    audience would produce elevated levels
  • 1:10:36
    of performance anxiety
  • 1:10:40
    if so that would allow exposure therapy
  • 1:10:42
    through podcasted performance to lead to
  • 1:10:44
    extinction for insight anxiety in the
  • 1:10:47
    public performance situation
  • 1:10:48
    short answer nope I still got my PhD
  • 1:10:51
    though very interesting theory huh
  • 1:10:56
    because anybody just sits there and
  • 1:10:58
    tries to do what is especially a video
  • 1:11:00
    podcast just to nobody
  • 1:11:03
    it's like you know how do you do that
  • 1:11:06
    what do you mean Adam Scott Adams Gus
  • 1:11:09
    does he starts off his thing do to do to
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    do he seems his little touch song yes
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    simultaneous sip then he has a