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1805: Hamburger Wine

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Seed oils!
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Adam Curry, John C.
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Dvorak.
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It's Sunday, October 5th, 2025.
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This is your award-winning Gitmo Nation Media
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Assassination Episode 1805.
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This is no agenda.
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Protecting you from social alchemy.
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And broadcasting live from the heart of the
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Texas Hill Country here in FEMA Region Number
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6.
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In the morning, everybody.
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I'm Adam Curry.
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And from Northern Silicon Valley where there's no
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government shutdown.
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Everything's working.
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I'm John C.
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Dvorak.
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In the morning.
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Best thing about the government shutdown.
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Best thing.
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No chemtrails.
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It's perfect.
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It's perfect here in Texas.
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Chemtrail-free we are, I tell you.
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That's because it costs money.
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Yeah, of course.
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It costs tons of dough.
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Can't have that.
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Yeah.
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No, I mean, we won't notice anything for
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at least another week, two weeks, maybe.
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I mean, has anything really changed?
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Except for a couple of the parks here
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are closed, I guess.
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Oh, no.
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Yeah, the national parks.
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Yeah.
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You have national parks?
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What national park do you have?
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I think that Lyndon B.
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Johnson Park somehow is tied to the Park
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Service.
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The National Park Service.
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It's not the Texas Park Service.
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Lyndon B.
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Johnson Park.
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It sounds like a scam.
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Well, all of Johnson City is pretty much
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a scam.
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I'd say Johnson City was the epicenter of
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scams during the Johnson years.
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It's where Johnson had all his bag men
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to go out across the country and collect.
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You know, collect.
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So let's talk about the shutdown for a
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second.
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Okay.
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That's a good idea.
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Just so you know, I have some early
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morning stuff from the Sunday morning shows when
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you're ready, but you get going first.
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Well, I just wanted to get this out
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of the way.
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Yeah.
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There's a lot of shutdown threats.
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There's a shutdown analysis.
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Yes.
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And then there is Kennedy's little diatribe.
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I hope I have it on here.
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Yes, this is the shut down.
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Oh, okay.
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I spelled it wrong, as usual.
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But this is Kennedy going off on Alcacio
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Cortez.
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Oh, always fun.
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Basically, President Trump just said, we want you
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to take some stuff out of the budget
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that we think is wasteful.
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And we did.
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And that upset the Congress.
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She's entitled to be upset if she wants
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to.
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But that really upset the socialist wing of
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the party.
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And so we took out and here's what
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they want us to put back in.
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We found that under President Biden, they were
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spending $3 million for circumcisions and vasectomies in
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Zambia.
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We took that out.
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The Congresswoman says, we're going to shut down
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government till you put that back in.
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We found $500,000 of American taxpayer money
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for electric buses in Rwanda.
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We found $3.6 million for pastry cooking
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classes and dance focus groups for male prostitutes
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in Haiti.
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How can you not?
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Am I making this up?
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It was in the budget under President Biden.
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We took it out.
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Congresswoman Alcacio Cortez and the socialist wing, the
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loon wing of the Democratic Party says we're
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going to shut down government till you put
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it back in.
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I'll just read you a few more that
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we took out.
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$6 million for media organizations for the Palestinians.
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$833,000 for transgender people in Nepal.
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$300,000 for a pride parade in Lesotho.
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$882,000 for social media mentorship in Serbia.
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$4.2 million.
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We took out the Congresswoman and the socialist
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wing of their party says we got to
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put that back in for that open government.
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$4.2 million for lesbian, gay, bisexual, transgender,
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queer, and intersex people in the Western Balkans
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and Uganda.
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I could spend the rest of the afternoon
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here.
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We took all that out.
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It upset Congresswoman Alcacio Cortez.
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It upset the socialist wing of her party.
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And now that wing of her party and
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the Congresswoman are threatening all other Democrats and
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saying you've got to shut that government down
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until we get what we want.
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And part of what they want is to
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add this kind of stuff back in.
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And that's what this fight is all about.
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Always a good soundbite from anybody in Congress
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during these shutdowns.
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Yeah.
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I mean, this used to be more common.
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I mean, Rand Paul used to be notorious
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for doing it.
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Where is Rand Paul?
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Rand Paul, there's no soundbites from him.
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He's like not on the scene.
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He's voting against, but he's voting with the
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Democrats on this.
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Of course.
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He's the one guy.
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Because he loves the transgender stuff.
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Like that's what it's all about.
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We know that that's not true.
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That's just, you know, it's fun though.
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But those are things that benefit.
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I think all that stuff is probably from
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USAID.
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Oh, for sure.
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That's like I'm hearing him again.
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And by the way, I also suspect that
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$4 million, $3 million, all this money that
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supposedly goes to this and that is actually
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going into somebody's pocket to do something else.
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But you see, you're completely wrong.
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It's not about this at all.
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At all.
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Your buddy, Manhans Welker.
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Isn't that your buddy?
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She's the hands.
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Kristen, Kristen Welker.
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The one with the big giant black laborer,
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Manhans, that one.
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Manhans Welker.
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She knows what this is really about.
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That's only a 30 second clip.
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We can get back to yours in a
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minute.
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And as you know, many Democrats have looked
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at your move.
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They say the House is not in session
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because you don't want to swear in this
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newly elected center.
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The Congresswoman, Democratic Congresswoman from Arizona, who would
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be a critical vote to releasing the Epstein
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files.
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How do you respond?
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Yeah, Epstein.
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This has nothing to do with that.
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It's another red herring.
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The reason the government is closed is because
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Chuck Schumer and 43 of his Democrat colleagues
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in the Senate have decided now to vote
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multiple times to keep the government closed.
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We need them to turn the lights back
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on so that everyone can do their work.
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This is all so tedious and boring.
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It's the Schumer shutdown.
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It's it's Trump shutdown.
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Shit.
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Shoot.
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Shut.
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Shut.
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I think the Epstein shutdown is better.
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It's better.
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And that was right off the bat.
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That was the top of the morning from
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her.
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Yeah, we all we all know her up
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with that.
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Well, of course.
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Some writer.
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Yeah.
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What else?
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Like she has a brain.
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No, you put that in there.
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It's very funny.
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It's good.
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If you're going to have the Speaker of
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the House get in with that one right
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away.
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We all know this is about Epstein.
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We all know what's going on.
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Mike Johnson.
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Well, here's a couple of there's a couple
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of NPR clips just from yesterday.
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Shutdown threats.
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NPR.
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There's a kicker in here.
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Well, OK.
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NPR Steven Fowler joins us.
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Good morning.
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Let's begin first with the threats to fire
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for.
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Hey, hey.
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Yeah, I am sorry.
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I forgot.
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No, no, that's not what I'm saying.
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Yes, Scott.
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Yeah.
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I mean, when we have when we have
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Scott Simon, you've got to warn me so
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we can.
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I usually put SS on the in the
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clip title.
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I just forgot.
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Suffer and suck a dash.
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I'm Scott Simon.
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NPR Steven Fowler joins us.
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Good morning.
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Let's begin first with the threats to fire
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federal workers.
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Has anyone actually been let go yet?
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Well, so far, they're just threats.
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Here's White House Press Secretary Caroline Levitt speaking
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to Morning Edition yesterday.
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The president is meeting with the Office of
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Management and Budget to try to understand what
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agencies are essential, what agencies do not align
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with the administration's priorities and values.
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Here's the thing to think about, though, Scott.
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Any of these reductions in force or RIF
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efforts that would come would have to be
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from the leaders of these federal agencies.
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President Trump can't make them happen, and neither
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can Russ Vogt, the head of the Office
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of Management and Budget.
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RIF rules are pretty particular about the amount
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of time and notice they have to give
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before they can take effect.
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There's also a lawsuit that's been filed from
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federal workers unions saying that the threat of
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firing workers, especially during a shutdown, is illegal.
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This goes right back to the Doge executive
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order.
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Yes, exactly.
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And so and by the way, the threat,
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supposedly, of firing is illegal.
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Oh, the threat, not the actual firing, but
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the threat of it.
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Oh, well, that's you're paying attention to the
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words, as always.
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They said.
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Yeah, you're right.
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I think that's I think is absolutely.
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I think there's some it's I believe it's
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hate speech.
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It should be illegal doing.
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They're suing, but there hasn't been any firings,
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but they're suing anyway because of the threat.
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It's the threat.
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Yes.
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So let's go to the here's the kicker.
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Hakeem Jeffries said this in an NPR interview
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earlier this week.
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Oh, sorry.
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Trump administration has been out of control since
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day one.
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They've been laying people off since day one.
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They've been firing federal employees since day one,
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and they've been violating the law since day
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one.
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Doge's work to cancel contracts and direct agencies
9:35
to slash their workforce is an extension of
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Trump and votes long held belief that the
9:39
government should be smaller and spend less on
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things they don't agree with.
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Even as the White House has tried to
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circumvent the spending and budgeting power given to
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Congress, which Republicans have so far allowed to
9:51
happen, it's worth noting that agencies have been
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hiring back hundreds of workers they let go
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earlier this year, and Treasury data shows spending
9:58
has actually increased instead of decreased.
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What?
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Maybe.
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So we listen to all this bullcrap.
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Yeah.
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On and on.
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Oh, they're firing.
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Oh, and Jeffries goes on.
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They're firing everybody.
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We don't know what to do about it.
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We're suing them.
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And the government budget has gone up because
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they keep hiring more people.
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Are you kidding me?
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Well, the budget did go up.
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It went up for the budget.
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The ceiling went up, but the budget, this
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is ridiculous.
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They have done nothing.
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Trump hasn't backed it off even an inch
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or an iota.
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Well, Doge has done nothing.
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You're believing NPR now.
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I mean, come on.
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We know they got at least 50 billion.
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That's something.
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That's something.
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They want their money back.
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What they want is all that other stuff,
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you know, a trillion and a half dollars
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of nonsense.
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Stuff we definitely don't need.
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Yeah, I get it.
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Well, I get it.
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I get it.
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There's two more clips that would be, you
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can go do your thing.
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Let's do shutdown analysis one.
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Okay.
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Where's this from?
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Oh, NPR.
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Okay.
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The shutdown of the U.S. government.
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Since Tuesday, the U.S. Senate has taken
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up the same votes to fund the government
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temporarily with continuing resolutions.
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They still don't have the votes.
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Is there an agreement even on the distant
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horizon?
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Joined now by NPR congressional correspondent Barbara Sprint.
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Barbara, thanks for being with us.
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It's so good to have Scott back on
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the machine.
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Hey, thank you.
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The Senate yesterday failed once more to advance
11:36
competing plans to extend federal funding and end
11:39
the shutdown.
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How are those plans different again?
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Well, one is a GOP plan that has
11:45
already passed the House.
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It would fund the government through November 21st.
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Then there's a Democratic counterproposal as well.
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That would fund the government through October, and
11:55
it includes an extension of healthcare tax credits
11:57
that were boosted up during the pandemic.
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Those are on track to expire at the
12:01
end of the year.
12:02
Now, Republicans have said they'll negotiate on that
12:05
point, but only after the government is funded.
12:08
Even then, Senate Majority Leader John Thune has
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said it would not be a simple process.
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We can't make commitments or promises on the
12:16
COVID subsidies because that's not something that we
12:20
can guarantee that they're the votes there to
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do.
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There were a few Democrats who did support
12:25
the Republican proposal this week.
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Has there been any more movement or are
12:30
the numbers tightening?
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No, they are not.
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It has been the same as that first
12:35
vote where we saw two Democratic senators and
12:37
one independent joining Republicans.
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In fact, there's been so little movement on
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any kind of negotiation between the two parties
12:44
that the Senate isn't even expected to stay
12:47
over the weekend and do more votes.
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Here's Thune yesterday when asked about the possibility
12:51
of weekend work.
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Hopefully over the weekend, they'll have a chance
12:54
to think about it.
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Maybe some of these conversations start to result
12:58
in something to where we can start moving
13:00
some votes and actually get this thing passed.
13:03
Who is this woman from NPR?
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I'm not familiar with her.
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I like her voice.
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I like her voice.
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I've never heard her.
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No, no.
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She probably has a weekend substitute.
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Well, she has a slick, suave, smooth kind
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of a vocal thing going on there.
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It's not your typical vocal fry.
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It's an improvement.
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I'm just saying it's an improvement.
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Okay, well, I'll minimize these clips.
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You're offhanded way of saying they suck.
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No, not at all.
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Don't they also want NPR and PBS refunded
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of that big whopping 1%?
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Isn't that also part of this?
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Yeah, yeah.
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They have to have that money back.
13:42
Well, so shouldn't NPR disclaim and say part
13:46
of the demands are to bring us money?
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So just so you know, you know, that
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it involves us.
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They should have some kind of, what do
13:54
you call that?
13:54
Full disclaimer.
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Full disclosure.
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Full disclosure.
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Yeah, they should say that.
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I've been listening to NPR all day yesterday
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to get some of these clips.
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Oh my God, did you need to take
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Advil?
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I did.
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But the point is, is no, they've never
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said that once.
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No, no, of course not.
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Of course not.
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I mean, they'll do it when they do
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like a story about John Deere.
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They'll say something like, well, John Deere also
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underwrites the show.
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But, you know, here we're going to talk
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about it.
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But they didn't know.
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They have not done that.
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And they should have.
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You're right.
14:26
Let's go with the second part of this.
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The impasse is essentially this.
14:29
Because the Senate needs Democrats to reach that
14:33
60 vote threshold to pass this kind of
14:35
bill, Democrats, who of course have very little
14:37
power as the party in the minority, say
14:40
that demanding that there be some kind of
14:42
negotiations between the two parties is appropriate.
14:46
Unsurprisingly, Republicans do not share that view.
14:48
They say Democrats are holding the American people
14:51
hostage via the shutdown.
14:53
Of course, in the meantime, the White House
14:54
is proceeding with plans to cut programs and
14:57
spending, often it seems, in areas with lots
15:01
of Democratic voters.
15:02
What is the argument they make here?
15:04
Well, this is very much in line with
15:05
the administration's thesis when it comes to its
15:08
role in cutting programs and government workers.
15:11
Items on the chopping block include some transportation
15:14
projects in New York, the home state of
15:16
both the House and Senate Democratic leaders.
15:19
Press Secretary Caroline Leavitt told our colleague Stephen
15:21
Skeap yesterday that the administration views that as
15:24
minority leader Chuck Schumer's fault.
15:27
They can't show up to work right now.
15:28
So that project is currently temporarily halted because
15:32
of Chuck Schumer's shutdown.
15:33
So Chuck Schumer did that to himself.
15:36
He did that to his constituents in New
15:37
York.
15:38
And how do Democrats respond?
15:40
Well, Democrats have called this an intimidation tactic.
15:44
They've blasted a plan from the White House's
15:46
budget arm to fire federal workers instead of
15:49
temporarily furloughing them, which is usually what happens
15:52
in a shutdown.
15:53
Independent Senator Bernie Sanders of Vermont said he
15:56
thinks that plan will backfire.
15:58
And the idea that you have a president
16:00
who says, hey, your state voted against me,
16:03
we're going to cut funding for you.
16:05
That is not only illegal, not only outrageous,
16:08
it is unconstitutional.
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Where is your head?
16:11
Where is your head?
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These people are old and decrepit, and I'm
16:15
tired of them.
16:16
And it's fine if you say that about
16:18
me in 20 years.
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But right now, I'm tired of them.
16:20
And you know what they should do?
16:21
So the Democrats, they need something to save
16:23
face.
16:24
Here's what I would do if I was
16:26
the president.
16:27
I would say, OK, we'll give you your
16:30
circumcisions in Albania back.
16:32
We'll give you your LGBTQ pride parade in
16:35
Morocco, whatever it is.
16:37
We'll give you all that back.
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Are you happy now?
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Is that really what it's all about?
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Is that what you want?
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Give them something.
16:45
They need something.
16:47
I'm sure that the climate change stuff is
16:51
what he's thinking of giving back or something
16:53
like that.
16:55
That's the art of the deal.
16:57
The art of the deal.
16:58
He has to give up something, sometime.
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Or will he just keep it going for
17:02
a month?
17:03
I think they should just keep it going
17:04
forever.
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Well, shut down that Lyndon Johnson park.
17:10
By the way, you can still just get
17:11
in.
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It's not like, oh, you just go in
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and there's no gate guard.
17:15
You can't walk into the park.
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They have a friend of ours and her
17:21
friends that were all camping out here and
17:24
they came by last night, yesterday afternoon.
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And I said, well, was the park shut
17:29
down?
17:29
Yeah, we had the code because we booked
17:31
it before the shutdown.
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So we just had the code and went
17:33
right in.
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The code.
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They got a gate code.
17:37
Well, our ATC producers and our CBP producers...
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How about, wait a minute.
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I'm thinking, why doesn't some entrepreneurial type have
17:47
the gate code and go stand there at
17:50
the thing and collect money?
17:51
Take money.
17:52
Put on a uniform.
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Yeah, put on a hard hat and the
17:58
orange vest.
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And a clipboard.
18:00
And a clipboard.
18:01
You're on the list.
18:02
I see it.
18:02
Yep, you're on the list.
18:04
Hey, we should do no agenda meetups in
18:06
these parks now.
18:07
Yeah.
18:08
There's all kinds of good ideas.
18:11
Well, while this is going on, the president
18:12
has an interview scheduled to air tonight.
18:15
He's chosen, this time, he's chosen a different
18:18
network.
18:19
Typically, it goes for one of the big
18:20
three.
18:21
Now he's chosen OAN for his big interview,
18:26
which I think is an interesting move.
18:28
The home of Matt Gaetz, although it's not
18:31
Matt Gaetz to do the interview.
18:32
And he's got some promises.
18:35
We also might make a distribution to the
18:37
people, almost like a dividend to the people
18:39
of America.
18:40
How much are you thinking for that, sir?
18:41
Well, we're thinking maybe $1,000 to $2
18:44
,000.
18:45
Be great.
18:47
Inflation is completely stable.
18:48
It's around target rate.
18:49
And the country is ultimately taking in unprecedented
18:52
amounts of tariff revenue, more than $200 billion
18:55
at this point in time, sir.
18:57
What do you believe this extra source of
19:00
revenue can be put towards?
19:02
And how big of a game changer is
19:04
it for your administration?
19:05
Well, ultimately, because we're talking about just kicking
19:09
in.
19:09
They're just starting to kick in.
19:11
But ultimately, your tariffs are going to be
19:13
over $1 trillion a year, in my opinion.
19:16
We're going to do something.
19:17
We're looking at something where, number one, we're
19:19
paying down debt, because people have allowed the
19:22
debt to go crazy.
19:23
But with growth, with the kind of growth
19:25
we have now, the debt is very little,
19:27
relatively speaking.
19:28
And we're going to grow our way out
19:29
of it.
19:30
You grow yourself out of that debt.
19:32
It's not a question of paying it.
19:33
You grow yourself out.
19:35
And the numbers are so much bigger than
19:37
they ever were.
19:38
The numbers we have now are bigger than
19:39
they ever were.
19:40
So when you have $36 trillion in debt.
19:43
How many times have you seen- What?
19:44
Stop.
19:45
Yeah.
19:45
He has this tendency when he's- Bigger
19:47
than ever.
19:48
Bigger than ever.
19:48
When he's full of it, just to repeat
19:51
the phrase.
19:51
It's bigger than- So if you back
19:53
it up, he says, the numbers are going
19:54
to be bigger than ever.
19:55
They're going to be bigger than ever.
19:57
They're going to be bigger than ever.
19:58
He keeps saying the same thing.
19:59
And he'll say it twice, at least.
20:01
I think he's saying that the debt numbers
20:03
are bigger than ever, which is- Grow
20:06
yourself out.
20:07
And the numbers are so much bigger than
20:08
they ever were.
20:09
The numbers we have now are bigger than
20:11
they ever were.
20:12
So when you have $36 trillion in debt
20:14
a year ago or two years ago.
20:16
And you have a lot less revenue coming
20:18
in.
20:18
Then you have 37 or 38.
20:21
It's not 38 yet, but it will be.
20:24
And the numbers are so much bigger.
20:26
All of a sudden, 38, you're under levered.
20:28
Whereas for 36, you were highly levered.
20:31
We're not highly levered anymore.
20:33
Now, with that being said, we'll pay back
20:34
debt.
20:35
We're not highly levered anymore.
20:40
He should say, you know, the checks should
20:42
be giant checks.
20:44
Did you know that Publishers Clearinghouse went out
20:46
of business?
20:49
Yeah, it's been for a while now.
20:51
A couple, I think they went bankrupt.
20:53
Yeah.
20:54
And they pulled the plug on all these
20:55
people that were collecting monthly benefits.
20:57
Yes.
20:58
And some company bought them.
21:00
They're going to reinstate under a new name.
21:02
But the people who got screwed are not
21:04
going to get any money.
21:05
You're done.
21:06
Yeah.
21:06
That's why you always take the cash out.
21:08
You've got to take the cash.
21:10
So I'm listening.
21:11
They don't give you the cash out.
21:12
You can find some financial operations to give
21:16
you callers.
21:16
Get a caller.
21:18
So this is going on.
21:19
And I read on CNBC.
21:21
I thought I misread that.
21:22
Well, I did misread the headline.
21:25
I thought it said Treasury Ways minting.
21:27
I thought it was going to be a
21:28
$1 trillion coin.
21:31
Treasury Ways minting $1 trillion coin with Trump's
21:33
face for US 250th anniversary.
21:35
And then I realized it's a $1 coin.
21:37
I was excited.
21:38
I'm like, oh, the trillion dollar coin is
21:40
back.
21:43
They're going to mint a coin with Trump's
21:46
head on it?
21:46
A dollar coin.
21:48
It has his head on profile.
21:51
Liberty.
21:52
In God We Trust, 1776.
21:54
On the other side.
21:54
I thought that was like illegal.
21:56
Or it was always assumed that you didn't
21:59
do it when the guy was alive.
22:00
It's a commemorative coin.
22:01
So you can do that.
22:03
They're all, yeah, well.
22:04
Yeah.
22:04
And the other side will have the iconic
22:08
photo of him and the flag and fight,
22:11
fight, fight.
22:12
No.
22:12
Yes.
22:14
Yes.
22:14
That's corny.
22:15
It's a draft.
22:16
A draft picture.
22:17
Of course it's corny.
22:19
But, you know, is putting your opponent in
22:23
a sombrero any less corny?
22:25
Well, no, that's funny.
22:26
And it's gone out of control.
22:28
There's like, there's at least 20 new ones
22:31
out there with different sombreros.
22:32
They're dancing.
22:33
They better come out with the stable coin
22:35
gambit pretty quickly.
22:36
They got to start launching that.
22:38
I don't know.
22:38
I don't know what the plan is.
22:40
But if you want to spread our debt
22:43
to the rest of the world, you got
22:44
to get that going.
22:47
Meanwhile, Senator Tammy Duckworth was on CBS Face
22:53
the Nation with Margaret.
22:56
And this was actually kind of, I didn't
22:59
know how annoying I thought she was.
23:01
I think, you know, because you look at
23:03
her, she didn't she have, she's a veteran.
23:06
So she, I think she lost a leg
23:07
or did she lose two legs?
23:09
Something like that.
23:11
So, you know, you never really pay attention
23:13
to her because you look at her like,
23:14
oh man, I feel bad for her.
23:16
And thank you for your service.
23:18
But when you listen to her in audio,
23:20
it's like, ugh.
23:21
So she's talking about what's going on with
23:25
the guardsmen in Chicago.
23:29
So I have to ask you about what
23:30
the president announced yesterday in regard to federalizing
23:34
300 National Guardsmen out in the state of
23:37
Illinois.
23:39
We've heard this threat going back all the
23:41
way to August.
23:41
The governor says these are not needed.
23:44
Do you have any idea when they'll arrive?
23:46
Well, I believe they're going to be Illinois
23:48
National Guardsmen.
23:49
So they're not going to be coming from
23:50
out of state.
23:50
I spoke with our governor yesterday and it
23:52
looks like it's going to be about 300
23:54
Illinois Guardsmen.
23:55
She sounds a bit like Macy Hirono.
23:57
Except she talks a little bit faster, but
23:59
she has the same kind of intonation as
24:02
from Hawaii.
24:04
And probably just as dumb.
24:06
Who will be activated against the governor's wishes.
24:09
So they'll be homegrown Illinoisans.
24:11
And they're our brothers and sisters, our neighbors.
24:13
I probably served with quite a number of
24:15
them.
24:15
Certainly the leadership.
24:17
Probably not.
24:18
And, you know, they'll be home.
24:18
We'll welcome them.
24:20
It's a misuse of the National Guard.
24:22
They're not needed in this particular role.
24:24
President Trump really wanted to fight crime, then
24:27
maybe you should stop defunding the police.
24:29
He what?
24:31
This is my favorite bit.
24:32
So Trump is now defunding the police.
24:36
This is great.
24:37
And then maybe you should stop defunding the
24:39
police.
24:40
He, you know, he diverted $800 million in
24:42
crime prevention efforts away from that was appropriated
24:46
away from funding for our police officers.
24:48
So, you know, I don't know why we're
24:51
going to welcome them because they're our brothers
24:52
and sisters and we're proud of our National
24:54
Guard.
24:55
And if you look at the Chicago budget,
24:57
the number one expenditure is police, which is
25:01
kind of crazy because they're not doing a
25:03
great job.
25:04
Most people think.
25:05
And most of the anarchists in Chicago, I
25:08
know a couple, they want to defund the
25:12
police.
25:12
They hate the Chicago police.
25:14
They hate them with a passion, which kind
25:16
of reminds me.
25:18
Back in the days, was it Mad Magazine
25:20
or Cracked?
25:21
I think it was Cracked, probably.
25:23
They always had the Chicago cops always portrayed
25:26
as these horrible, you know, brutes.
25:29
Was that Cracked Magazine?
25:31
Am I thinking about the right, the right
25:33
magazine?
25:33
Don't be mad, it just doesn't matter.
25:35
Yeah, there's brutes.
25:37
But they're notorious.
25:38
I mean, I lived in Chicago when I
25:39
was a kid and then you, my parents
25:43
were from Chicago.
25:44
And you find out certain things like, for
25:46
example, on the, there's a bunch of, you
25:49
know, bribing the cops is always considered the
25:52
thing you always do.
25:53
And it's always done the same way.
25:54
You keep your driver's license in a little
25:56
cellophane pack and there's a $100 bill tucked
25:59
behind the driver's license.
26:02
And so when you get pulled over for
26:03
some, it's usually something stupid.
26:06
And it's usually, there's a good element of
26:08
this taking place on the route to the
26:10
airport.
26:13
And it's the funniest thing that's happened.
26:14
One time I was.
26:16
A new story.
26:18
Something we haven't heard yet.
26:19
I was driving to the airport and a
26:21
cop pulls me over for doing 36 in
26:24
a 35 zone or something like that.
26:26
Yeah.
26:26
You know, I was sure you were speeding.
26:28
He says, there's this driver's license.
26:29
I showed him the license.
26:30
He looked, took one look for, he took
26:32
a look and he flipped it over to
26:33
see if there was any money or anything
26:34
attached.
26:35
But then he saw it said California.
26:37
Oh, yeah.
26:38
And he figured I didn't know what the
26:39
hell I was doing.
26:40
I didn't know how to bribe him.
26:41
And so he just gives me the license
26:43
back and says, move along.
26:45
Got rid of me.
26:46
You're wasting his time.
26:48
Tina got pulled over the other night.
26:51
By a DPS, Department of Public Safety.
26:59
So I think the highway patrol falls on
27:01
the DPS, but it wasn't highway patrol.
27:03
And she got pulled over.
27:04
And I know my wife, she's, she's a
27:07
rule follower.
27:07
It's like you were speeding.
27:09
She says, no, I wasn't.
27:11
And he's shining the light in her eyes.
27:13
It's a Friday night.
27:14
So, you know, they expect people to be
27:16
drunk on the roads.
27:17
Fair enough.
27:18
He's like, yeah, you were speeding.
27:19
You don't have a front license plate.
27:23
This is a big deal in Texas.
27:25
There's this ongoing fight.
27:27
Like, we don't want it.
27:28
We don't want front license plates for some
27:32
reason.
27:33
And most cars don't really have a spot
27:35
for it if you buy them in Texas.
27:37
And so he gave her a warning.
27:40
Like, how could you prove that she was
27:42
speeding?
27:42
She had no proof.
27:44
Harassment.
27:45
Harassment of a pretty girl, of course.
27:48
So no payoffs here.
27:50
Try that.
27:51
I wonder if that'll work in Texas.
27:52
Try and pay off a cop.
27:55
I don't think that'll work.
27:57
Anyway, we continue with this lady about what's
28:02
happening in Chicago.
28:03
He has surged.
28:04
The federal government has surged agents from different
28:07
groups.
28:07
The FBI said yesterday they're sending folks in.
28:10
Tell me about these protests, because the images
28:13
look pretty intense of what has happened between
28:16
people on the streets of Chicago.
28:19
We're showing some of that video now around
28:21
immigration issues.
28:22
As I understand, yesterday, ICE authorities shot a
28:26
Chicago woman in the Brighton Park area.
28:29
Secretary Nome claimed ICE fired defensive shots at
28:33
this woman who was armed, who had appeared
28:34
in a Border Patrol intelligence bulletin previously.
28:38
She claims that federal agents were surrounded and
28:41
were threatened.
28:42
What are local authorities telling you about what
28:45
they think happened here?
28:47
Well, they lie, right?
28:49
The Trump administration lies.
28:50
We have a president who's a known liar.
28:53
And I'm questioning if this isn't Macy Hirono.
28:56
How can this be?
28:58
I mean, that's not Macy Hirono.
29:00
Macy Hirono, you're correct.
29:02
She talks slower, and she has more of
29:05
a sing-song voice.
29:08
And she is incredibly—and she just sounds dumb.
29:12
Is this a milieu, maybe?
29:13
A milieu thing?
29:15
Well, the Hawaiian accent is very noticeable.
29:18
It's also very reminiscent of various American Indian
29:22
tribe accents.
29:23
It up-talks a bit.
29:25
It can be slow and plodding.
29:28
It's a plodding accent.
29:30
It can be extremely annoying, and it can
29:34
sometimes sound stupid.
29:37
Bingo.
29:39
They've been lying about the situation all along.
29:41
And in fact, they even shot tear grenades,
29:44
tear gas grenades, I think, at a reporter
29:46
who was simply driving by with her window
29:48
open.
29:49
And so we're urging people, we're urging our
29:52
protesters, remain calm, peaceful protest, exercise your First
29:56
Amendment rights, but videotape everything.
29:59
Everybody has a phone.
30:00
Tape everything so that we actually have real
30:02
evidence of what is happening.
30:03
We know the Trump administration lies consistently.
30:06
And what I am hearing is that, for
30:08
the large part, people are being very quiet,
30:10
are being very respectful.
30:12
But ISIS is being very aggressive.
30:14
Remember that they are zip-tying children.
30:16
Children!
30:16
They are raiding apartment blocks in the middle
30:18
of the night, separating children from their families,
30:21
pulling people out onto the streets naked.
30:23
Whoa!
30:23
They are using— —exemplar tactics in Chicago.
30:27
And this is what Trump wants to do,
30:29
right?
30:29
He wants to intimidate the people of Chicago.
30:30
That's not going to happen.
30:32
And we're going to document everything and make
30:34
sure, just as the judge in Portland said,
30:38
that these requirements, these orders from the Trump
30:42
administration are not actually tied to reality.
30:44
Okay.
30:45
So I think this is really just a
30:47
lead-in.
30:48
And there is a form of get comfortable
30:51
with it, Chicago and Memphis and Oregon.
30:56
Get comfortable with it because we're going after
30:58
crime.
30:59
And I've been doing a little bit of
31:03
looking around here and there.
31:06
And I found this clip of Stephen Miller.
31:12
And it kind of fits— Stephen Miller, the
31:14
guy, the Trump administration guy?
31:16
Yeah, that guy.
31:16
He has a tick—he has Tourette's, by the
31:19
way.
31:19
Oh, he's a brother.
31:22
His tick—I can tell you what his tick
31:23
is and people can start to look for
31:24
it.
31:25
Yeah.
31:26
He has—his head will be talking to you
31:29
and then he will have an uncontrollable jerk
31:34
of his entire head down about, I'd say,
31:39
a quarter of an inch and over to
31:41
the right.
31:42
Always to the right.
31:43
His right.
31:43
Okay.
31:45
About another quarter of an inch.
31:46
So he'll do it when he gets a
31:49
little nervous, he'll start to do it.
31:51
And he can do it two times in
31:52
a row.
31:53
But it's an obvious—and I consider myself an
31:58
expert on this, having worked with somebody for
32:00
almost 20 years who has Tourette's.
32:02
Who would that be?
32:03
But also I saw that long documentary and
32:06
I've kind of considered myself an expert.
32:08
You're an expert.
32:09
But I spot this stuff and if you
32:10
see it, once you see it, you'll agree
32:12
with me.
32:13
Yes.
32:13
Well, so there's hope for me in politics.
32:15
That can have a job in the White
32:17
House.
32:18
Here's what he said.
32:19
To the Memphis Police Department, to the officers
32:21
that I see sitting in front of me,
32:23
we are about to provide you with a
32:25
level of support you cannot even imagine.
32:30
This isn't just a task force.
32:32
This is an all-of-government, unlimited support
32:36
operation.
32:37
ATF, DEA, FBI, ICE, Department of War, every
32:42
resource we have.
32:43
And they're not going to be sitting behind
32:46
a desk at a keyboard.
32:48
We are sending in real cops with guns
32:51
and badges to go out with you on
32:54
the street every single night making arrests.
32:57
These are people who have taken down drug
32:59
cartels, kingpins, the worst criminal offenders in the
33:03
United States, standing with you shoulder to shoulder
33:07
to shoulder.
33:08
All we ask from you is to show
33:10
up at roll call every single night with
33:13
your brothers and sisters in the federal government
33:15
and to go out and get the criminals
33:17
off the street.
33:19
And if you do that, I pledge to
33:20
you, we will liberate this city from the
33:24
criminal element that has plagued it for generations.
33:26
This is not just a strategy shift.
33:29
This is an attitude shift.
33:31
We are not going to live in an
33:33
environment anywhere where there is a street that
33:37
belongs to a criminal, where there is a
33:39
neighborhood that belongs to a gang, where there
33:41
is any physical space anywhere that belongs to
33:45
anyone other than the law abiding citizens and
33:48
families of Memphis.
33:49
The idea that there is a square inch
33:52
of block in this city where a citizen
33:54
doesn't feel safe is unacceptable.
33:57
This is Memphis.
33:59
This is the United States of America.
34:00
And all that bullshit is done.
34:02
It's over.
34:03
It's finished.
34:05
There's your Tourette's right there.
34:07
Bullshit.
34:08
So this is actually part of something much
34:11
bigger, I believe.
34:12
And I'm going to get to the North
34:13
Sea Nexus on this one.
34:16
We heard this mentioned a while back during
34:19
maybe one of those, I don't know, A
34:22
.G. Barbie things where they all of a
34:25
sudden, Kash Patel started talking about Operation Summer
34:28
Heat.
34:28
Do you recall that?
34:31
I think we know.
34:32
I can't keep track of all these operations.
34:34
Well, so this op has been going on
34:36
for the summer and here's Kash Patel to
34:39
bring us up to speed.
34:40
As I said, this is breaking news.
34:42
We've kept it quiet for the summer.
34:44
Operation Summer Heat was a three month surge
34:46
by the FBI with our state local partners.
34:48
We start at the end of June and
34:50
we just wrapped up at the end of
34:51
September.
34:51
And what we did was follow one theme,
34:54
crushing violent crime.
34:55
One of this administration's key priorities.
34:57
And we went into every single field office.
35:00
We have 55 field offices scattered across the
35:03
country.
35:03
And today we're going to unveil the results
35:05
of Operation Summer Heat.
35:06
And what law enforcement can do when you
35:08
let good cops be cops.
35:09
I think a quick historical analysis is important
35:11
here.
35:12
You have to recognize that there was an
35:14
explosion in violent crime and it didn't happen
35:16
in a month or six months.
35:18
It happened over the course of years due
35:20
to the prior administration's laxicodasical approach against crime.
35:24
Did he say laxicodasical?
35:26
It's a new one.
35:28
Course of years due to the prior administration's
35:30
laxicodasical approach against crime and violent criminals took
35:35
advantage of that.
35:36
So the FBI, under my leadership, we came
35:38
in and said, OK, violent crime is exploding.
35:41
Everybody knows that.
35:42
We see that.
35:42
You can't walk around these cities anymore.
35:44
People are getting shot.
35:44
Kids are getting shot.
35:45
Drugs are killing our youth.
35:47
We need to do what the FBI is
35:48
best at and crush violent crime.
35:50
So we targeted all the major cities in
35:52
the country.
35:52
You can't just walk into a city and
35:54
say, OK, there's 150 law enforcement officers here.
35:57
Let's go arrest people.
35:58
You have to build a ground game of
35:59
intelligence that takes months.
36:00
That's what we did in Memphis.
36:01
That's what we did in Chicago.
36:03
That's what we did in New Orleans.
36:04
And that's why at President Trump's direction, we
36:07
went in quietly months ago into these cities
36:09
to set phase 01.
36:12
Now we're going in with the Guard to
36:13
complete that project.
36:15
And that's the beauty of operations like Summer
36:17
Heat.
36:17
OK, so they've been at this for a
36:19
couple of months.
36:20
They've been setting it up.
36:21
And of course, this is in large part
36:24
about drugs, because that's what most of the
36:26
gang activity is related to.
36:28
And here are the results so far.
36:30
Summer Heat had 8,700 arrests.
36:33
In three months, Summer Heat had 2,281
36:36
firearms seized permanently off our streets.
36:38
Three months, fentanyl, 421 kilograms.
36:41
By the way, that's enough to kill over
36:42
50 million Americans.
36:43
50 million.
36:45
On the low end, that's a conservative estimate.
36:47
Lethal doses off that seizure.
36:49
45,000 kilograms of cocaine.
36:52
We conducted operations that led us to 2
36:56
,000 indictments and 1,400 convictions.
36:58
And the bulk of that work came from
37:00
our violent crime and gang forces.
37:02
I want to highlight that because that was
37:04
the focus of Summer Heat.
37:06
6,500 of this casework came specifically out
37:10
of that.
37:10
And here's something that's not on this chart.
37:13
Operation Summer Heat found and located almost 1
37:17
,000 child victims and returned them to safety.
37:21
Sexual trafficking?
37:22
Victims of sexual trafficking.
37:24
Victims of home abuse.
37:26
Victims of rape and violent crimes against children.
37:29
So a couple of people sent me this
37:31
Substack article about how Trump is rolling up
37:35
the drug scourge once and for all.
37:38
And it was very interesting because it points
37:40
directly back to the city of London and
37:43
really the Panama Papers, interestingly, about how there's
37:47
$50 to $75 trillion that has been made
37:51
through drug trade.
37:52
A lot of that, of course, went to
37:54
our streets.
37:56
You know, we typically, oh, fentanyl, blame China.
37:58
But if you really, and we've always looked
38:00
at the, you know, I think I've said
38:02
many times in the past, if you stop
38:05
the illegal drug trade, our country would collapse.
38:08
You know, the economy runs on drugs and
38:10
probably most, the world economy runs on illicit
38:14
drugs and to some degree on legal drugs,
38:18
certainly here.
38:19
We got everybody on some kind of drug.
38:22
And as I'm thinking about, we're also, we're
38:25
now in season six, last season of Downton
38:27
Abbey.
38:28
This is 1925 now.
38:30
You kind of look at the royal extensions
38:36
of the royal family, the British elite and
38:38
their houses are starting to crumble.
38:40
They're running out of money because they never
38:42
worked.
38:43
You know, how'd they get the money?
38:44
Well, they were all part of the East
38:46
India Company.
38:47
And of course they had the opium wars
38:49
on China, which is their favorite way of
38:51
doing it.
38:52
You know, they hooked, what was it?
38:54
40 million Chinese on opium.
38:57
They transport all the slaves to the new
38:59
world.
39:01
As an aside, very prominent in the series
39:04
is the hatred for the Jews and for
39:06
the Catholics.
39:07
Of course they were Irish Catholics and hated
39:10
the new world success, which, you know, it's
39:12
only been a hundred years.
39:13
And as I've said, I don't think that
39:15
has stopped that hatred of our success.
39:18
So they continue what they're very good at
39:20
is the drug trade.
39:21
And, you know, maybe we can screw America
39:23
this way.
39:24
And I got three clips here from my
39:26
favorite old ladies, Promethean Action, who gave us
39:29
a little rundown on the concept from the
39:33
North Sea Nexus.
39:35
And we start with a famous guy, Bertrand
39:38
Russell.
39:38
Can you give me a little background on
39:39
Bertrand Russell?
39:41
Yeah, Bertrand Russell was a, who lived to
39:46
be about a hundred and made the claim
39:49
that he didn't like eating meat because it
39:52
was eating a corpse.
39:53
Oh, I thought you meant that he'd rather
39:57
eat a corpse.
39:58
No, I understand what you're saying, yeah.
39:59
And he wrote a lot of plays and
40:05
was a top notch, one of the top
40:09
intellectuals out of the UK.
40:11
He was considered the creme de la creme
40:13
of the great thinkers.
40:15
So I could have read this, but the
40:17
Promethean Action ladies, they read it for us.
40:19
So here's a little excerpt from Bertrand Russell.
40:21
I just want to talk about three people
40:23
today, Bertrand Russell, Aldous Huxley, and George Soros.
40:28
The three of them together described the cultural
40:31
attack our nation has suffered since our elites
40:34
declared the post-industrial society in 1971 and
40:38
sold us out.
40:40
By the way, 1971 is an interesting year.
40:43
That's the year we got off the gold
40:45
standard.
40:46
I just wanted to mention that I found
40:48
that to be very coincidental.
40:50
Here's Lord Russell in 1951 in his work,
40:54
The Impact of Science on Society, describing the
40:57
future as he saw it.
40:59
I think the subject which will be of
41:00
most importance politically is mass psychology.
41:04
Its importance has been enormously increased by the
41:06
growth of modern methods of propaganda.
41:09
Of these, the most influential is what is
41:12
called education.
41:14
The subject will make great strides when it
41:16
is taken up by scientists under a scientific
41:19
dictatorship.
41:21
Sounds like Common Core and Bill Gates to
41:23
me.
41:24
The social psychologists of the future will have
41:26
a number of classes of school children on
41:29
whom they will try different methods of producing
41:31
an unshakable conviction that snow is black.
41:35
Various results will soon be arrived at.
41:38
First, that the influence of the home is
41:41
obstructive.
41:42
Second, that not much can be done unless
41:45
indoctrination begins before the age of 10.
41:48
Third, that verses set to music and repeatedly
41:51
intoned are very effective.
41:53
Fourth, that the opinion that snow is white
41:56
must be held to show a morbid sense
41:59
of eccentricity.
42:00
Sounds very familiar to me when I hear
42:03
all these things.
42:04
You know, break up the home.
42:05
I like the song thing.
42:06
I should do a little note on the
42:08
side.
42:08
Please do.
42:10
Which is, if you've ever visited, well, nobody
42:14
does, but I was at Scott Adams' house
42:16
and I noticed that he never has any,
42:20
of course, I don't.
42:21
I have, in my house, I have-
42:23
Classical music.
42:23
24-7 classical music.
42:25
I have music playing in my house, 24
42:27
-7 classical music.
42:29
And it's for various reasons.
42:31
It's good for you.
42:32
One thing, the low notes keep varmints out.
42:34
That's for one thing, especially if you have
42:35
a couple of 15-inch subwoofers.
42:36
Wait a minute.
42:37
Hold on a second.
42:38
You'll never have problems.
42:39
The low notes keep the varmints out?
42:42
Bugs or mice and rats?
42:44
Bugs.
42:45
Bugs.
42:45
So, this is a tip of the day.
42:49
That's a good tip, by the way.
42:51
Classical music will keep bugs out of your
42:53
house.
42:53
Okay.
42:53
Well, if you have, yes, but I'm using
42:56
some down thrusting 15-inch woofers in the
42:59
house.
42:59
That's what you want.
43:00
It creates a subsonic sound that the bugs
43:02
don't like.
43:03
And does it matter?
43:05
Can it be Vivaldi or does it have
43:07
to be Wagner?
43:08
We have a couple of classical streaming stations.
43:11
I just play everything, all the classical music.
43:14
And also, they can't hear the cries from
43:16
the basement, which is kind of good.
43:17
Yeah, they're very useful.
43:19
And so, Adams never has any, I said,
43:25
I don't know how it came up in
43:27
the conversation, but he says, no, it's just
43:30
all, he says, you shouldn't play music because
43:33
it's all propaganda.
43:34
He's not talking about classical.
43:35
He's talking about pop music.
43:37
People are always playing, you know, they got
43:38
their headphones on, they're all popping around.
43:40
And he's of the opinion that it's all
43:43
subconsciously designed propaganda, that you should not be
43:48
subjecting yourself to 24-7, especially, you know,
43:51
if you're going or floating around.
43:53
And that's what I think is what Bertrand
43:56
Russell said there in his commentary.
43:58
Well, especially the beats part.
44:00
I mean, listen, I mean, there's a whole
44:01
category of songs about smack your bitch up
44:04
and, you know, killing each other.
44:06
And, you know, it's called hip hop.
44:07
It's a lot of violence.
44:08
It's called modern hip hop.
44:10
It's very violent.
44:12
So, and it's definitely with beats.
44:15
Okay, so that's one.
44:16
Aldous Huxley, of course, no stranger to the
44:18
show.
44:19
Aldous Huxley was part of Russell's nest in
44:21
British intelligence, along with the same Ms. Alyssa
44:24
Crowley.
44:25
He played a huge role in the 1970s
44:28
counterculture.
44:29
Speaking to a 1961 conference sponsored by the
44:32
Voice of America, Huxley said the following, there
44:35
will be in the next generation or so,
44:37
a pharmacological method of making people love their
44:40
servitude and producing dictatorship without tears, so to
44:45
speak, producing a kind of painless concentration camp
44:49
for entire societies so that the people will,
44:53
in fact, have their liberties taken away from
44:55
them, but will rather enjoy it because they
44:58
will be distracted from any desire to rebel
45:01
by propaganda or brainwashing or brainwashing enhanced by
45:05
pharmacological methods.
45:07
And this seems to be the final revolution.
45:11
And I'd say that's spot on.
45:13
I mean, Adderall, Ritalin, the micro dosing of
45:18
ketamine.
45:20
I mean, all of this is going on.
45:23
And that kind of folds into Neil Postman's
45:27
amusing ourselves to death, you know, because now
45:30
I'd say the pharmacological piece is one part,
45:34
but we also have the doom scrolling is
45:36
another part, which kind of shifts the responsibility
45:39
a little bit.
45:40
But I just thought, yeah, OK, that makes
45:41
sense that all those Huxley would say that.
45:44
And of course, we can't leave out the
45:45
mega Brit George Soros.
45:48
George Soros' career has been sponsored at all
45:51
times by major British financiers, including the Rothschilds
45:55
and the Queen.
45:56
He's played a major public role in implementing
45:59
this policy in the US and Latin America,
46:02
along with the US and British governments.
46:04
From 1979 forward, Soros, through his Drug Policy
46:09
Institute, led campaigns for drug decriminalization and legalization.
46:14
When you hear someone say the war on
46:18
drugs is a waste of money and an
46:20
offense to personal freedom, that's the manufactured belief
46:24
this campaign created.
46:26
In addition, Soros, the National Endowment for Democracy
46:29
and USAID led campaigns throughout Latin America to
46:34
overthrow nationalist governments and support the drug cartels.
46:38
This picture showing the head of the New
46:40
York Stock Exchange embracing Raul Reyes of the
46:44
drug running FARC in Colombia speaks a thousand
46:48
words.
46:48
So if I look at the second Trump
46:50
administration's track records, you know, Department of Education,
46:54
USAID, now going after the drugs on the
46:58
street, but not just on the street.
47:00
This really hasn't gotten a lot of play
47:02
because of the shutdown.
47:03
It's gotten to play, and that's the drug
47:05
boats from Venezuela.
47:07
Admiral, I want to ask you about, in
47:08
terms of Venezuela, you've seen those attacks, those
47:11
US strikes on boats that the president said
47:14
are drug smugglers, are drug traffickers, drug cartels.
47:18
What's your take on that?
47:20
Well, we always, people think of me as
47:22
the NATO guy, but I spent almost four
47:25
years as commander of Southern Command.
47:27
I would have been in charge of those
47:29
operations.
47:29
As a commander, you're thinking, what are we
47:32
trying to do here?
47:34
I think what we're trying to do tactically
47:36
is knock down drugs.
47:38
We're trying to deter drug smugglers.
47:40
We're trying to send a pretty strong signal
47:42
to Maduro, and we're sending a larger signal
47:45
to Cuba and Nicaragua.
47:47
So I can see the impetus for all
47:50
this.
47:50
My concern would be, if I were the
47:52
commander right now, how strong is the evidence
47:56
that I'm holding in hand that can allow
47:59
me to consider these people enemy combatants?
48:03
We really haven't seen much of that evidence.
48:06
I think the administration would be wise to
48:08
release at least some of that so they
48:10
can justify these kind of extremely aggressive military
48:14
strikes.
48:14
And just quickly, if you can, the legality
48:16
of this, he says that it is an
48:18
armed conflict with drug cartels.
48:23
It's right on the edge.
48:24
And that is why, see paragraph one, let's
48:29
get the evidence out, not the sources and
48:31
methods, but what are we basing this on?
48:34
And then let's also capture a few of
48:37
them alongside the more aggressive means because you
48:39
want the intelligence.
48:41
You want to be able to interrogate.
48:43
You want to be able to hold those
48:44
drug smugglers accountable in our court system.
48:48
So it's right on the edge.
48:50
It's really interesting the amount of people who
48:52
are pushing back on this blowing up the
48:55
drug smuggling boats.
48:57
You know, oh, well, you know, Trump's just
48:59
killing people willy nilly and this can't be
49:01
done.
49:02
And I'm like, why do I find it?
49:06
Well, I find the contrast to be interesting
49:08
here is because of what Obama did with
49:10
his kill list.
49:11
Yeah, one every Tuesday.
49:13
And he would blow these guys up all
49:15
over the place in sovereign.
49:17
He wouldn't do it on the open seas.
49:19
He would be in a sovereign country, blow
49:21
up a bunch of guys.
49:22
And then he did, which was really disgusting,
49:26
was the double tap.
49:27
Yes.
49:28
Yes, exactly.
49:30
The minute they came back.
49:33
When help came in.
49:35
Yeah.
49:35
When this when the as soon as they
49:37
said they blow up a pack, what he
49:39
said was a bunch of terrorists.
49:41
And, you know, may or may not have
49:42
been.
49:43
And he decides to blow them up.
49:44
He blows them up with the drone, with
49:47
a predator drone.
49:48
And he joked about it in one of
49:50
the correspondence centers about predator drones.
49:52
Blows them up and then they wait.
49:54
Wow.
49:55
So all the all the ambulances and Red
49:58
Cross or Red Crescent, whatever comes to help
50:02
these people, then they hit them again to
50:04
kill those people.
50:05
That seems a little more extreme, especially on
50:08
a sovereign nation than blowing up a boat
50:11
on the open waters, which they're making a
50:14
big fuss about.
50:14
But let's come on.
50:15
Let's go back and be realistic here.
50:18
If we're going to be critical.
50:19
And of course, we saw some of that
50:21
in the in the videotape that Glenn Greenwald
50:26
got.
50:26
They also showed the video of the blowing
50:28
up of the terrorist cells.
50:29
Yeah.
50:30
Which, of course, was shut down real quick.
50:33
That's not talked about anymore.
50:34
Even by Glenn Greenwald, that's not talked about
50:36
anymore.
50:36
But of course, that didn't affect the actual
50:39
money, the drug money that I think a
50:43
lot of people that we're unaware of are
50:45
benefiting from.
50:47
So I was looking for some analysis on
50:48
this.
50:49
I found a report from Deutsche Welle.
50:53
We'll kick it off here.
50:54
The United States has announced that it has
50:56
carried out a new strike on a boat
50:58
off the coast of Venezuela, the fourth in
51:01
recent weeks.
51:02
This one comes after President Donald Trump declared
51:04
that the U.S. is at war with
51:06
drug cartels.
51:08
He made the designation in a notice sent
51:10
to Congress on Wednesday, which has been seen
51:12
by multiple media outlets.
51:14
It says the president determined these cartels are
51:18
non-state armed groups, designated them as terrorist
51:21
organizations, and determined that their actions constitute an
51:25
attack against the United States.
51:28
Last month, the U.S. said it carried
51:30
out three deadly military strikes on boats in
51:33
the Caribbean in international waters near Venezuela.
51:36
It alleges that they were smuggling drugs.
51:39
The U.S. has also built up its
51:40
naval forces in the area and dispatched 10
51:43
F-35 aircraft to Puerto Rico, a U
51:46
.S. territory.
51:47
It's the biggest military deployment in the Caribbean
51:50
in decades.
51:51
The strikes have raised questions about whether the
51:54
U.S. military is legally entitled to kill
51:56
alleged cartel members under domestic and international law.
52:01
By declaring the U.S. is involved in
52:03
an armed conflict with the cartels, the Trump
52:06
administration aims to provide a legal rationale for
52:09
its actions.
52:10
The attacks have also increased tensions between the
52:14
U.S. and Venezuela.
52:16
Venezuela's left-wing authoritarian president, Nicolas Maduro, has
52:20
accused Trump of a covert bid to oust
52:22
him.
52:23
The Trump administration accuses Maduro of being a
52:26
narco-terrorist and a drug cartel leader and
52:29
is offering a $50 million bounty for his
52:32
arrest.
52:33
So they bring in an expert on this,
52:35
Christopher Sabatini.
52:36
Listen to his resume.
52:39
Senior Fellow for Latin America at Chatham House.
52:42
A lecturer in discipline in the School of
52:47
International and Public Affairs at Columbia University.
52:51
Spooks.
52:52
Also on the advisory board of Harvard University's
52:56
LASPAU, the Advisory Committee for Human Rights Watch,
53:00
America's Division, and of the Inter-American Foundation.
53:05
He's also an HFX fellow at the Halifax
53:08
International Security Forum.
53:10
You could not get a better guy to
53:12
defend this.
53:14
You want to say something?
53:16
No.
53:17
Oh, here we go.
53:18
And to find out what exactly is going
53:20
on here, I'm joined now by Christopher Sabatini.
53:23
He's a senior fellow.
53:25
Yeah, let's find out exactly what's going on
53:26
here, shall we?
53:27
Let's get our information from this guy.
53:30
For Latin America at Chatham House.
53:32
That's an international affairs think tank based in
53:34
London.
53:35
Mr. Sabatini, it's good to have you with
53:36
us.
53:37
President Trump says that the U.S. is
53:39
at war with drug cartels.
53:42
I'm wondering, first, what's the point of this
53:45
notice to Congress, in your opinion?
53:47
Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover
53:50
their argument.
53:51
They're trying to demonstrate that this is a
53:54
war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians
53:59
without due process.
54:00
That whole line.
54:02
There is an interesting little milieu usage there
54:06
that I thought was interesting.
54:07
What's that?
54:08
The term that you normally use would be
54:09
legitimize, not legitimate.
54:13
Is that not just an anglophilian thing?
54:16
No, I don't think so.
54:17
There's something fishy about using that term.
54:20
Okay.
54:20
I just think it's a mark.
54:22
No, no, we'll mark it down.
54:23
I wouldn't look at it as a marker.
54:24
Marker.
54:24
Yep, marker.
54:25
Well, I don't think, I think his resume
54:27
kind of already told us.
54:29
Yeah, no, he's already marked.
54:30
But it's just another, you know, a marker
54:32
for others.
54:34
So he's actually going to push back again.
54:36
You know, so again, Department of Education, we're
54:39
getting the illegals out.
54:44
What's that?
54:45
USAID, hopefully going after the, what's the word,
54:50
democracy, the Endowment for Democracy.
54:53
Yeah.
54:54
All of these things are all bad for
54:57
America.
54:58
And so now we're going after the drugs
55:00
on the street and the supply lines, and
55:04
Chatham House is having none of it.
55:05
Well, frankly, this is an attempt to cover
55:08
their argument.
55:09
They're trying to demonstrate that this is a
55:12
war that legitimates, in their view, attacking civilians
55:17
without due process, that in which they are
55:20
the equivalent of combatants in a war zone.
55:22
Questions have been raised across the aisle by
55:25
both Republicans and Democrats that by declaring this
55:29
war on narco-terrorists, is the term they
55:31
like to use, it is in violation of
55:33
the War Powers Act.
55:35
And it is even in violation of international
55:37
norms because they're killing civilians without due process
55:40
and without them actually- Wait, wait.
55:43
I like the way he does this.
55:44
Another good one, another good bit he just
55:46
pulled, which is it's a violation of, not
55:49
in violation of international law, mind you, which
55:53
is a legitimate thing to complain about.
55:57
No, it was a violation of international norms.
56:00
Good point.
56:01
Good catch.
56:02
Which is meaningless.
56:03
Yeah, my norms.
56:04
Yeah.
56:04
Yeah.
56:04
The New World Order norms.
56:06
It's a violation of that.
56:07
We don't do that.
56:09
And then he says the War Powers Act
56:10
- But the way you couch it, the
56:11
way you couch it, it makes it sound
56:13
like it's a violation of international law.
56:15
Right, but you say norms.
56:17
But also he's full of crap because the
56:19
president sent his letter to Congress.
56:20
He said, this is a war.
56:22
These are terrorists.
56:23
Here's my executive order, who I've all said
56:25
is a terrorist, including Antifa.
56:28
And these guys are terrorists, so I'm going
56:30
after them.
56:31
So he's, I guess he has 60 days
56:33
or whatever, but he's within the War Powers
56:36
Act, which of course is super broad.
56:39
But, you know, that's beside the point.
56:40
And if they don't like it, they can
56:41
repeal it.
56:44
They don't do that.
56:46
Narco-terrorists is the term they like to
56:47
use.
56:48
It is in violation of the War Powers
56:50
Act.
56:50
And that is even in violation of international
56:52
norms.
56:53
Good point.
56:53
Because they're killing civilians without due process, without
56:56
them actually being armed threats.
56:58
So he's trying to draw this.
57:00
I think it's a very loose and tenuous
57:01
connection between drugs and armed combatants, which, quite
57:06
frankly, a number of U.S. senators, again,
57:09
on both sides of the aisle, are not
57:11
quite buying.
57:11
OK, well, we'll pay attention to which senators
57:14
are not buying it.
57:15
Just get a list of those guys.
57:16
Yes, we'd like to know who exactly is
57:18
in with the British invasion here.
57:20
So how does Maduro fit into this?
57:23
You know, at the center of this U
57:25
.S. war on drug cartels is Venezuela and
57:27
its president, Nicolas Maduro.
57:30
Can you tell us what role do they
57:32
play in international drug trafficking?
57:35
They're large international drug traffickers as a country.
57:38
They're not producers.
57:39
They're not producers at all of fentanyl.
57:41
Fentanyl, when it crosses the border in the
57:43
U.S., comes from Mexico, oftentimes from Chinese
57:46
precursors materials.
57:48
But in the case of Venezuela, what they
57:50
are, is they are a transshipment point for
57:52
cocaine that's leaving Colombia.
57:55
But they really only the cocaine that leaves
57:57
Venezuela, most of it's actually bound for Europe.
58:00
Only about 5% of the cocaine consumed
58:02
in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace
58:07
or maritime space.
58:09
Hold on a second.
58:10
This guy seems to know a lot about
58:12
it.
58:12
He has percentages and everything.
58:14
Like airspace.
58:16
Are we going to shoot down planes now?
58:18
What is this?
58:20
I think that was highly unusual.
58:23
By the way, a little bit too granular.
58:25
This is not our main supply line.
58:27
This is just a little bitty bit.
58:29
Only about 5% of the cocaine consumed
58:32
in the United States comes across Venezuelan airspace
58:37
or maritime space.
58:39
Most of the cocaine that enters the United
58:40
States comes from the Pacific or up through
58:44
the isthmus of Central America and through Mexico.
58:46
So this is really an attempt to try
58:49
to engage in another agenda that the Trump
58:52
administration has, which is to try to engage
58:55
in regime change.
58:56
To take out the Nicolás Maduro government.
58:58
They've named Nicolás Maduro and a number of
59:00
his- I love how all of a
59:01
sudden Maduro.
59:02
He's talking very much like a Venezuelan Maduro.
59:04
Associates in the government as being members of
59:07
the Carteles de los Sol.
59:08
Carteles de los Sol.
59:09
Carteles de los Sol, which is- I'm
59:12
here to collect my check.
59:13
Is a narco terrorist organization.
59:16
And they're claiming that that gives them the
59:17
license to effectively take them out.
59:19
A little detour here for the Pentagon releasing
59:22
the video of the hit.
59:24
Tonight, the Pentagon releasing this video of a
59:27
deadly military airstrike on what officials say, without
59:30
providing evidence- Without any evidence!
59:33
Was a drug boat attempting to smuggle narcotics
59:36
into the U.S. The massive explosion sending
59:39
debris raining down in international waters just off
59:43
the coast of Venezuela.
59:44
Flames shooting from the vessel.
59:47
Wow, so graphic.
59:48
The U.S. says four people were killed.
59:51
The president has directed these actions, these strikes
59:53
against Venezuelan drug cartels and these boats, consistent
59:57
with his responsibility to protect the United States
1:00:00
interests abroad.
1:00:01
Secretary Pete Hegseth saying, our intelligence without a
1:00:05
doubt confirmed that this vessel was trafficking narcotics.
1:00:08
The people on board were narco terrorists.
1:00:11
Today's strike is the fourth known U.S.
1:00:13
attack on suspected Venezuelan drug boats since early
1:00:17
September.
1:00:18
We have proof.
1:00:18
All you have to do is look at
1:00:19
the cargo that was like it's spattered all
1:00:22
over the ocean.
1:00:23
Big bags of cocaine and fentanyl all over
1:00:26
the place.
1:00:27
Big massive bags.
1:00:28
You all saw it.
1:00:30
And with the Trump administration has now told
1:00:32
Congress as rationale for the strikes that they
1:00:35
considered drug smugglers unlawful combatants with whom we
1:00:39
are involved in armed conflict.
1:00:41
But critics questioned the legality.
1:00:43
Oh, the critics.
1:00:45
Oh, the critics.
1:00:45
We'll finish up with this Maduro shill here.
1:00:48
By the same token, they've also doubled the
1:00:49
bounty on Nicolas Maduro's head to $50 million.
1:00:53
So if you happen to have any information
1:00:55
to be able to turn him over to
1:00:56
U.S. authorities, you can make yourself a
1:00:58
quick $50 million.
1:01:00
That, by the way, is more than the
1:01:01
U.S. placed on the head of Osama
1:01:03
bin Laden.
1:01:04
And it demonstrates a general trend across this
1:01:07
entire rhetoric and policy, which is hyperbolic.
1:01:11
It's unclear really whether cartel de los solos
1:01:14
actually exist as a hierarchical organized cartel as
1:01:18
it's being described by the Trump administration.
1:01:21
It's unclear what extent Nicolas Maduro.
1:01:23
He probably is very well aware of narcotics
1:01:26
trafficking, flying over Venezuelan airspace and leaving Venezuelan
1:01:30
shores.
1:01:31
But it's unclear whether this is truly an
1:01:33
organized operational cartel with him sitting at the
1:01:37
head.
1:01:38
But that's very much what the Trump administration
1:01:40
wants to portray.
1:01:41
But again, UNODC, UN Office of Drugs and
1:01:45
Crime, as well as independent investigators really questioned
1:01:48
the logic and evidence that the Trump administration
1:01:51
is putting through to make these claims.
1:01:53
Everybody's in on this.
1:01:54
They're all in on the money train with
1:01:56
this, as far as I'm concerned.
1:01:58
And what's interesting is that we've blown up
1:01:59
four of these boats.
1:02:00
It really doesn't get the same amount of
1:02:02
play on mainstream media as the shutdown and
1:02:07
Epstein, of course, that's gone down a bit,
1:02:10
Diddy, etc.
1:02:11
And online, we are obsessed with one thing
1:02:14
and one thing only.
1:02:16
Here's Nick Fuentes.
1:02:17
So who owns your mind?
1:02:19
Zuckerberg runs Meta, which is Facebook and Instagram
1:02:23
Jewish.
1:02:24
Alphabet, which owns Google and YouTube is run
1:02:27
by a couple of Jews.
1:02:28
Larry Page, Sergey Brin.
1:02:30
That's YouTube, Google, Facebook, Instagram.
1:02:34
TikTok is now owned by Larry Ellison.
1:02:37
So that's TikTok as well.
1:02:38
Those are your social platforms.
1:02:39
Out of the big media conglomerates, you got
1:02:41
Disney, which is run by Bob Iger.
1:02:43
You got NBC and Universal, which are run
1:02:45
by Jews.
1:02:46
You have CBS, Warner Bros, Paramount Studios now
1:02:50
run by David Ellison.
1:02:51
You've got the Salem Radio Network and Brad
1:02:54
Parscale working on behalf of Israel.
1:02:56
You've got Fox News, Wall Street Journal under
1:02:59
the Murdochs.
1:03:00
They're friends of Israel.
1:03:01
You've got Daily Wire, Prager University, Breitbart, all
1:03:04
run by Jewish editors, Jewish owners.
1:03:07
Are you starting to get it?
1:03:08
This is what this is so phenomenal.
1:03:12
He's on TikTok.
1:03:13
He's on YouTube.
1:03:14
He's on X.
1:03:15
He can say whatever he wants to say,
1:03:17
but somehow they're controlling your mind.
1:03:20
He goes on about the NBC and whoever
1:03:25
was he listed there, owned by Jews.
1:03:27
That's Brian L.
1:03:29
Roberts is not a Jew.
1:03:30
Is he kidding?
1:03:31
Well, he didn't mention Elon, friend of Israel.
1:03:34
And Sergey Brin doesn't run Google.
1:03:39
That's Sundar.
1:03:39
No, he hasn't been doing...
1:03:40
Actually, I take it back.
1:03:41
Roberts was born into a Jewish family.
1:03:44
Ah, there you go.
1:03:45
So once again, the Jews are...
1:03:47
Every single day, John, I get emails.
1:03:51
Are you convinced yet?
1:03:52
Well, you should.
1:03:52
You should.
1:03:53
People, get him at curry.com.
1:03:56
It's easy to remember.
1:03:57
Aren't you convinced yet that the Zionists run
1:03:59
our country?
1:04:01
Aren't you sure of it?
1:04:02
And at this point, and Nick Fuentes, I
1:04:06
mean, I don't know where he makes his
1:04:07
money or how he makes his money, but
1:04:09
that guy is some sort of an op
1:04:11
and people love him.
1:04:12
And he got Kanye in on it.
1:04:14
Oh, the Jews, the Jews, the Jews are
1:04:16
taking it all away from me.
1:04:17
And you can hate Israel.
1:04:18
You can hate the government of Israel.
1:04:20
That's fine by me.
1:04:21
That's okay.
1:04:22
But the danger is that we start to
1:04:25
all hate the Jews just like the Brits
1:04:27
do, which is why I think, you know,
1:04:28
it's my thesis, the Brits created the modern
1:04:31
state of Israel in the first place.
1:04:32
Send them all there.
1:04:33
We can blame them for everything and we'll
1:04:34
do stuff in the Middle East and get
1:04:35
our BP and all of our oil and
1:04:38
anything else we want.
1:04:39
And by the way, America has quite a
1:04:42
history of hating Jews.
1:04:43
I was watching a Dutch review, book review
1:04:47
of Mein Kampf, which was quite interesting.
1:04:51
And Hitler was a big fan of Madison
1:04:55
Grant.
1:04:56
Madison Grant wrote this book called The Passing
1:04:58
of the Great Race.
1:04:59
And he was the chair of the New
1:05:02
York Zoological Society.
1:05:07
Zoological.
1:05:08
I said zoological.
1:05:09
I started to say zoo, but then I
1:05:10
said zoological.
1:05:12
Which later and today is now known as
1:05:14
the Wildlife Conservation Society.
1:05:17
Then he, you know, which is all the
1:05:19
green agenda, which is, you know, the whole
1:05:22
green thing that's totally functional fascism.
1:05:26
And if you look at the European Union
1:05:29
with Ursula, it's basically the Nazi party dream.
1:05:33
But my point is to say that we
1:05:35
get suckered into this stuff so easily.
1:05:38
And now it's become part of the podcast
1:05:41
grift.
1:05:41
I just have to say it because now
1:05:44
you have to do stuff.
1:05:45
Listen to this.
1:05:46
Was it podcast grift?
1:05:47
Yes, podcast grift.
1:05:49
I like that term.
1:05:50
Because you got to add in there that
1:05:52
obviously Israel killed Charlie Kirk and Israel is
1:05:55
to blame for it.
1:05:56
They run our country.
1:05:58
They run Trump.
1:05:58
They run everything.
1:05:59
So now if you do a podcast, you've
1:06:01
got to say stuff like this.
1:06:03
I would never.
1:06:03
This is Theo Vaughn, by the way.
1:06:05
I would never take my own life.
1:06:07
I'm grateful to God for his grace in
1:06:11
my life.
1:06:13
I love my siblings.
1:06:16
I have so many friends and people that
1:06:18
love me and people that I want to
1:06:19
see their children grow up.
1:06:20
I'm hopeful.
1:06:21
I'm hopeful that I get to have a
1:06:22
wife and meet my and meet my own
1:06:24
children one day.
1:06:25
Like there's a ton of things in my
1:06:27
life that keep me alive and hopeful, right?
1:06:29
I want to be able to have an
1:06:30
impact in the world.
1:06:32
Those are just a few of them, probably,
1:06:34
you know, I mean, so many just moments
1:06:36
we've shared on this show that I'm like,
1:06:38
oh, I live for those things.
1:06:42
I would never take my own life.
1:06:43
I would never take my own life.
1:06:45
Okay.
1:06:46
You hear that, Israel?
1:06:50
This is what you've got to say.
1:06:51
Oh, it gets better.
1:06:53
Listen to this.
1:06:53
Here's Candace.
1:06:54
Well, Marjorie Taylor Greene has been very loud
1:06:56
about how she is against that.
1:06:59
She has grown increasingly vocal and she feels
1:07:02
the need, as she did a couple of
1:07:04
days ago, to publicly clarify that she is
1:07:08
not suicidal.
1:07:09
I mean, it's ridiculous, but we do all
1:07:11
have to say it.
1:07:11
If you have influence and you're speaking out
1:07:13
against Israel, you do have to kind of
1:07:15
make that statement.
1:07:15
We do have to make that.
1:07:16
This is why we don't make these statements,
1:07:18
John, because we're covering for Israel, obviously.
1:07:21
We're covering for the Zionists.
1:07:23
So this is the new grift.
1:07:26
I'm not suicidal when I talk out about
1:07:29
Israel.
1:07:29
Israel.
1:07:31
What is the benefit of taking this approach?
1:07:35
Because people are sucked up into hating Israel,
1:07:39
the Zionists.
1:07:40
They run everything.
1:07:40
It's rampant.
1:07:42
Dude, this has been going on for years.
1:07:44
Yeah, I understand that.
1:07:45
But what is the benefit?
1:07:47
I still don't understand the benefits.
1:07:49
I mean, besides not getting hate mail to
1:07:51
adamatcurry.com, which is, you know.
1:07:55
Well, it's audience capture.
1:07:57
Everybody wants.
1:07:58
Just go look at my x-time.
1:08:00
No, audience capture.
1:08:02
You might be right.
1:08:02
No, I'm completely right.
1:08:04
That's what it is.
1:08:05
Don't you see now that your donations are
1:08:07
going down?
1:08:08
Addicts Jones has been bleeding audience.
1:08:11
It's always the donations are going down because
1:08:14
they're not hating on people.
1:08:15
What they're saying is if you don't say
1:08:17
Israel is running everything, and we just don't
1:08:19
believe it.
1:08:20
We believe, in fact, quite the opposite.
1:08:21
And I'm going to, I think we can
1:08:23
prove that once again.
1:08:24
It's so obvious that they're not running everything.
1:08:27
They're not running anything.
1:08:28
In fact, there's a couple of clips.
1:08:29
Well, I got one more clip.
1:08:31
We'll get to that.
1:08:32
So, you know, the whole point is if
1:08:34
you don't think, if you don't think and
1:08:37
say out loud that Israel runs America and
1:08:39
all of our politicians through AIPAC, then you're
1:08:42
going to lose money.
1:08:43
So it's basically either I listen to what
1:08:45
you say and don't lose money or I
1:08:47
take money from Israel.
1:08:49
I mean, that's really the binary bullshit.
1:08:51
Where's your money from Israel, by the way?
1:08:53
Exactly.
1:08:53
Has it come in yet?
1:08:55
So Marjorie Taylor Greene, now she has a
1:08:58
good point because she is, she's, this is
1:09:02
her own grift.
1:09:03
She's playing on this in a very obvious
1:09:06
way.
1:09:07
And we know this from one of the
1:09:09
last things Charlie Kirk did with all the
1:09:11
Gen Z-ers.
1:09:12
They're all saying, look, look, we look, we
1:09:17
want, we can't pay our rent.
1:09:19
We, you know, it's a crappy situation in
1:09:22
America.
1:09:23
And why are we sending all this money
1:09:26
to Israel, which is $10 billion?
1:09:29
Let's say it's $50 billion.
1:09:30
I don't care what it is.
1:09:32
Why should we be doing that?
1:09:34
And of course, the answer is because that's
1:09:36
our military base in the Middle East.
1:09:39
Fine.
1:09:39
People can believe me or not, but that's
1:09:41
literally aircraft carrier in the sand is how
1:09:44
it was set up and what it was
1:09:45
called in the 70s.
1:09:46
We've played all the clips.
1:09:49
But if you look at the money we
1:09:50
send elsewhere, just the military in general is
1:09:53
a trillion dollars.
1:09:55
Look at the money we're sending all over
1:09:57
the world.
1:09:58
We sent 10 years worth of Israel money
1:10:00
to Ukraine.
1:10:02
Those flags drop pretty quickly.
1:10:05
So Marjorie Taylor Greene is using this for
1:10:08
votes and for popularity, which equals votes.
1:10:11
And I can't blame her.
1:10:12
And but she is doing the same thing
1:10:15
as the podcast Grift.
1:10:17
Here she is with Matt Gaetz on OAN.
1:10:18
We got to talk about APAC attacking you,
1:10:21
sending out fundraising emails saying that you are
1:10:24
not acting in the interests of our country.
1:10:27
Marjorie Taylor Greene, your reaction to APAC's fundraising
1:10:30
emails attacking you?
1:10:32
Yeah, and Matt, I'll go ahead and be
1:10:33
straight and honest about this.
1:10:35
I'm absolutely furious.
1:10:36
And as a matter of fact, APAC needs
1:10:38
to register as a foreign lobbyist because they're
1:10:41
breaking U.S. laws by by donating to
1:10:44
members of Congress and by taking them on
1:10:47
a fully funded trip to Israel every single
1:10:50
freshman member of Congress this year.
1:10:52
They just took them over just recently and
1:10:54
had them meet with the prime minister of
1:10:55
Israel.
1:10:56
But let's let's let's frame that correctly.
1:10:58
They take them over to meet with the
1:11:00
secular government of nuclear armed Israel.
1:11:04
Israel, who is in less than 400 billion
1:11:07
dollars in debt.
1:11:08
Israel, who has taxpayer funded health care in
1:11:12
college.
1:11:13
Israel is not hurting.
1:11:14
And they've already proven that they are more
1:11:16
than capable of not only defending themselves, but
1:11:18
annihilating their enemies to the point of genocide.
1:11:21
And that's what's happening in Gaza.
1:11:24
And Matt, the reason why APAC is attacking
1:11:26
me is because I dared to tell the
1:11:28
truth.
1:11:28
As a matter of fact, I've been saying
1:11:30
America first for a long time.
1:11:32
But I'm getting to the point of saying
1:11:34
America only.
1:11:35
And I'll tell you why, Matt.
1:11:36
It's because pretty much if you're under the
1:11:39
age of 40, you have no hope for
1:11:40
the future.
1:11:41
We're 37 trillion dollars in debt.
1:11:43
People can't afford to buy a house.
1:11:45
They can't afford rent.
1:11:47
They can't afford insurance.
1:11:48
They can't afford their bills.
1:11:49
And we have HB1 visas stealing all these
1:11:52
American jobs.
1:11:54
And I'm sick and tired and fed up
1:11:55
with it.
1:11:56
So listen, if APAC wants to come after
1:11:58
me and accuse me of betraying my American
1:12:02
values, APAC, you know what?
1:12:05
You can bring it on.
1:12:07
I am totally ready for this.
1:12:08
And this is a fight that I will
1:12:10
fight.
1:12:10
And I will give it my all.
1:12:12
And I can guarantee you, you're going to
1:12:14
lose because America is fed up, Matt.
1:12:17
They're fed up to here with funding foreign
1:12:20
wars, funding foreign causes, funding foreign countries for
1:12:25
foreign reasons that have nothing to do with
1:12:28
Americans while Americans work their ass off every
1:12:31
day and pay their taxes and come home
1:12:33
and they're living.
1:12:34
Paycheck to paycheck and their credit cards are
1:12:37
maxed out.
1:12:37
I don't care anymore.
1:12:39
I honestly don't care.
1:12:40
So I'll burn this bridge to the ground
1:12:42
and I will let the flames light the
1:12:44
way.
1:12:45
And because this is a fight that needs
1:12:46
to happen.
1:12:47
So she is playing into feelings that are
1:12:50
rampant online, fueled, I'm sure, by ops like
1:12:54
Fuentes to blame it all.
1:12:57
Because when you blame it on Israel, it
1:12:58
goes right to the I've seen this movie
1:13:00
before.
1:13:00
It's happened many times in history.
1:13:03
It winds up with Jews getting killed.
1:13:05
Nice people everywhere in the world getting killed
1:13:07
is just how it always winds up then.
1:13:10
But she's pretending like it's it's it's Israel.
1:13:13
No APAC funded by the American Israeli Education
1:13:16
Foundation Foundation, which is funded by the military
1:13:19
industrial complex, the very the very thing that
1:13:23
President Eisenhower warned us about.
1:13:26
Yeah.
1:13:26
Lockheed, Raytheon, they funded.
1:13:29
They're the ones that are going in there.
1:13:31
Yeah, because it's money in their pockets.
1:13:33
And they're horrible, too, because there's oh, let's
1:13:36
do it under the guise of Israel.
1:13:37
Oh, you got to do it for Israel.
1:13:39
Play on your Christian values, blah, blah, blah.
1:13:42
But at the same time, you cannot deny
1:13:44
that President Trump is now very clearly in
1:13:47
charge of the situation with this Gaza deal.
1:13:50
In fact, let me just play.
1:13:53
I have clips, too.
1:13:53
I got two clips and then I'll be
1:13:55
done.
1:13:55
Here he is.
1:13:56
Listen to who he thanks for this deal.
1:13:58
I want to thank the countries that helped
1:14:00
me put this together.
1:14:01
Qatar, Turkey, Saudi Arabia, Egypt, Jordan, and so
1:14:07
many others.
1:14:08
So many people fought so hard.
1:14:11
This is a big day.
1:14:12
We'll see how it all turns out.
1:14:14
We have to get the final word down
1:14:17
and concrete.
1:14:18
Very importantly, I look forward to having the
1:14:21
hostages come home to their parents and having
1:14:25
some of the hostages.
1:14:26
Unfortunately, you know the condition they're in.
1:14:30
Come home likewise to their parents because their
1:14:33
parents wanted them just as much as though
1:14:36
that young man or young woman were alive.
1:14:40
So I just want to let you know
1:14:42
that this is a very special day, maybe
1:14:45
unprecedented in many ways.
1:14:47
It is unprecedented.
1:14:49
But thank you all and thank you all
1:14:52
to those great countries that helped.
1:14:53
We were given a tremendous amount of help.
1:14:56
Everybody was unified in wanting this war to
1:14:59
end and seeing peace in the Middle East.
1:15:02
And we're very close to achieving that.
1:15:05
Thank you all.
1:15:06
And everybody will be treated fairly.
1:15:08
Doesn't sound like a very pro-Israeli speech
1:15:11
to me, thanking all of the Arab nations.
1:15:13
And now he's out openly trolling Netanyahu.
1:15:17
Noga, good morning.
1:15:18
It seems things are moving full steam ahead.
1:15:20
And Donald Trump is continuing to pile pressure
1:15:23
on both sides.
1:15:24
He is.
1:15:25
He has not lost interest, Alison.
1:15:27
And it is interesting to observe so that
1:15:30
yesterday, hours after he posted on his Truth
1:15:33
Social media website, a sort of another threat
1:15:38
to Hamas saying basically get a move on.
1:15:41
You don't have a lot of time to
1:15:43
release the Israeli hostages or else.
1:15:46
Subsequently, he posted—he made two posts that are
1:15:51
sure to have severely irritated Prime Minister Netanyahu.
1:15:56
In one, interestingly, he posted an image of
1:16:00
the more than 100,000 Israelis who gathered
1:16:04
yesterday in Tel Aviv, who rallied to demand
1:16:07
an end to the war.
1:16:08
This is a weekly event in smaller numbers,
1:16:11
a daily event.
1:16:12
And somehow Trump has become aware of these
1:16:15
things.
1:16:15
It's the second time he posts—and it's important
1:16:17
to—you know, Netanyahu refers to these protesters as
1:16:21
enemies of Israel, as draft dodgers, in the
1:16:25
worst possible terms.
1:16:26
So that was an interesting thing.
1:16:28
And shortly thereafter, the president of the United
1:16:31
States posted a map of the withdrawal lines
1:16:35
that he proposes for this 20-point peace
1:16:38
proposal.
1:16:39
He announced unilaterally that Israel had agreed, thus
1:16:44
removing quite a bit of Israeli leverage in
1:16:47
the discussions that are going to start in
1:16:49
Egypt, the negotiations that are going to start
1:16:51
in Egypt as of tomorrow, as of Monday.
1:16:53
So it is interesting to see him not
1:16:56
lose interest and keep pressuring both sides basically
1:17:00
every few hours since he announced this deal.
1:17:02
Sombreros are coming.
1:17:04
That's next.
1:17:06
It's obvious who's running the show here.
1:17:09
It's so obvious.
1:17:10
But OK.
1:17:12
All right, what you got on the— Well,
1:17:14
let's go with these.
1:17:14
I have some—these are from PBS.
1:17:16
And these are—this is Hamas.
1:17:18
This is the story with a bunch of
1:17:20
analysis.
1:17:21
But this is—the opener is Hamas PBS version
1:17:24
1.
1:17:25
President Trump is sending envoys Steve Whitkoff and
1:17:27
Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try
1:17:30
to nail down a deal— Oh, Kushner, another
1:17:32
Jew trying to make money off the deal!
1:17:34
Sorry, I have to give color commentary.
1:17:37
President Trump is sending envoys Steve Whitkoff and
1:17:40
Jared Kushner to Cairo this weekend to try
1:17:42
to nail down a deal between Hamas and
1:17:45
Israel to free the remaining Israeli hostages.
1:17:48
The president hopes that would be the first
1:17:49
step toward ending their war, which is to
1:17:52
enter its third year on Tuesday.
1:17:54
In Gaza, the skies were relatively calm.
1:17:57
Palestinian hospital officials say Israeli bombing has significantly
1:18:01
subsided, though not stopped entirely.
1:18:03
They said at least five Palestinians had been
1:18:06
killed.
1:18:07
Israeli officials say the IDF has shifted to
1:18:09
a defensive posture in Gaza.
1:18:12
On social media, the president said the next
1:18:14
steps were up to the Palestinian militant group.
1:18:16
Hamas must move quickly or else all bets
1:18:19
are off.
1:18:20
I will not tolerate delay or any outcome
1:18:23
where Gaza poses a threat again.
1:18:25
Let's get this done fast.
1:18:27
In Khan Younis, displaced Palestinians said Mr. Trump's
1:18:30
pressure should be directed elsewhere.
1:18:32
And he was at Luckin.
1:18:34
My message to Mr. Trump is to pressure
1:18:36
Israel for a ceasefire.
1:18:38
He is feeling for us and aware of
1:18:40
our situations.
1:18:41
This is enough.
1:18:43
Did PBS mention the post he made about
1:18:46
the Israeli protesters, the enemies of Israel?
1:18:49
They have a bit.
1:18:51
I think their analysis is better.
1:18:52
And it starts right with this next clip.
1:18:54
Aaron David Miller was a US Middle East
1:18:56
negotiator in Republican and Democratic administrations.
1:18:59
You're a former negotiated.
1:19:01
You hear the things that Israel is saying,
1:19:03
that Hamas is saying.
1:19:04
Do you get the feeling that we're on
1:19:06
our way to a deal?
1:19:08
You know, usually my sense is, is pretty
1:19:12
negative given the gaps between Israel and Hamas
1:19:14
over the last couple of years.
1:19:16
But yeah, I think we are at least
1:19:18
on the way to the release of hostages
1:19:21
in exchange, probably, probably for an end to
1:19:24
Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.
1:19:28
Beyond that, it is really difficult to say,
1:19:32
because both the yes, but from Israel and
1:19:35
the yes, but for sure from Hamas to
1:19:39
the president's 20 points basically reflect still the
1:19:44
impossibility right now of reconciling what the Israelis
1:19:48
want for an end state and what Hamas
1:19:52
does.
1:19:52
But I think, John, closer than ever, although
1:19:57
in Arab-Israeli-Israeli-Palestinian negotiations, ever is
1:20:01
a kind of a problematic idea.
1:20:04
Explain what the sticking points are on each
1:20:06
side.
1:20:06
What in the deal is Hamas not crazy
1:20:09
about?
1:20:09
What in the deal is Israel not terribly
1:20:11
excited about?
1:20:12
I think both are not excited about excited
1:20:15
about any of it, except the president is
1:20:17
the most excited, because what he is going
1:20:20
to be able to accomplish if it holds
1:20:22
is the return of all the hostages, living
1:20:25
and dead, and likely, as I mentioned, an
1:20:29
end to Israel's comprehensive military campaign in Gaza.
1:20:34
Hamas wants to survive.
1:20:36
And they will be looking for two commitments
1:20:38
that I don't think this Israeli government will
1:20:40
be willing to give.
1:20:42
I think the statehood part is the big
1:20:44
is the big carrot, which will never take
1:20:46
place.
1:20:47
Yeah, well, all Trump, it just seems, if
1:20:49
you listen to this guy, that all Trump
1:20:51
really wants to accomplish is stop.
1:20:53
Yes.
1:20:54
Stop the killing.
1:20:55
Stop.
1:20:56
And then, you know, let's just stop.
1:20:59
And so, but there's a key, but it
1:21:02
also, as it will be revealed in the
1:21:04
next couple of clips, Trump does have a
1:21:07
lot more leverage over Netanyahu than people know
1:21:10
about.
1:21:11
Withdraw all Israeli forces from Gaza and a
1:21:15
formal end to the war where the Israelis
1:21:17
will not continue to exercise the right to
1:21:20
preempt or prevent if Hamas resurges.
1:21:24
As far as Mr. Netanyahu is concerned, he
1:21:27
wanted, quote unquote, total victory as he has
1:21:30
maintained these many months, which would have meant
1:21:33
the end of Hamas as an organized military
1:21:36
organization.
1:21:37
I think he probably, these Israeli defense forces
1:21:40
have achieved that.
1:21:42
What they have not achieved, and I think
1:21:44
this is going to be extremely difficult, is
1:21:46
the end of Hamas's political influence in Gaza
1:21:49
and its existence as an insurgency.
1:21:53
So again, Netanyahu's end state and Hamas's are
1:21:57
still, in my judgment, mutually irreconcilable.
1:21:59
This is happening.
1:22:01
Yes, Hamas is under pressure.
1:22:03
It's happening.
1:22:04
Yes, the Arabs are more united.
1:22:05
But it is happening for one primary reason.
1:22:09
You have an American president.
1:22:11
I was part of administrations from Jimmy Carter
1:22:14
to Bush 43.
1:22:15
You have an administration, a president that has
1:22:18
exercised unprecedented pressure on an Israeli prime minister,
1:22:23
not since Eisenhower, who threatened David Ben-Gurion
1:22:27
with political and economic sanctions.
1:22:29
Has an American president been this tough with
1:22:33
an Israeli prime minister and actually threatened a
1:22:35
quote or else?
1:22:37
And this Israeli prime minister, since he needs
1:22:40
Donald Trump to wage a successful election campaign
1:22:45
to remain prime minister, probably in the spring
1:22:48
or maybe the fall of 2026, couldn't say
1:22:53
no.
1:22:54
Oh yeah, don't worry.
1:22:56
We'll get you in jail, Bibi, unless you
1:22:58
send the boys from Shabbat on me.
1:23:01
Which won't happen.
1:23:03
Of course not.
1:23:05
That's a good point.
1:23:06
That's good.
1:23:07
That's accentuates the point.
1:23:09
Yes, and he wraps it with less of
1:23:13
an accentuation here.
1:23:16
Is that surprising given the relationship we saw
1:23:18
between Mr. Trump and Mr. Netanyahu during Mr.
1:23:21
Trump's first term?
1:23:22
And also we keep hearing Netanyahu say Israel
1:23:25
has had no better friend in the White
1:23:27
House than Donald Trump.
1:23:28
I mean, Trump fashions himself as the most
1:23:30
pro-Israeli president in human history.
1:23:32
And the reality is during Trump 1.0,
1:23:35
I think Donald Trump created what I would
1:23:37
describe as a sugar high for the Israelis.
1:23:39
He applied no pressure, ample amounts of honey,
1:23:43
but no vinegar.
1:23:45
This time around, given the fact that he
1:23:47
wanted to claim success in not ending the
1:23:52
war.
1:23:53
Let's be clear.
1:23:53
The war between Israel and Hamas is going
1:23:55
to go on.
1:23:56
But Trump, like in Ukraine, wanted to end
1:23:59
the fighting, but not the war.
1:24:00
Here, he's going to get the hostages out,
1:24:03
most likely.
1:24:05
And he will ameliorate or diminish the comprehensive
1:24:11
military campaign that the Israelis have waged over
1:24:15
the last year, where they now occupy 75
1:24:18
to 80 percent of Gaza, where the Israelis
1:24:21
are going to withdraw to.
1:24:23
Will Hamas's weapons be decommissioned, as it says
1:24:27
in the president's proposal?
1:24:28
Is there going to be an Arab stabilization
1:24:30
force?
1:24:31
Will aid, humanitarian assistance, and reconstruction to provide
1:24:36
two million Palestinians finally with a secure source
1:24:39
of potable water, sanitation, access to proper medical
1:24:43
care, and enough food?
1:24:45
All of those issues, all of them, remain
1:24:48
to be negotiated.
1:24:50
It's the best of all scenarios.
1:24:53
Stop the killing.
1:24:54
Keep the threat of war going so we
1:24:56
can continue to sell stuff.
1:24:59
That's what we do.
1:25:00
That's why AIPAC is still around.
1:25:02
We can continue to sell.
1:25:03
I guess sign off.
1:25:04
We've got to build this.
1:25:05
We've got to do this.
1:25:06
We're doing it in Europe, too.
1:25:07
It's coming later.
1:25:08
I'm going to interject with two quick Rubio
1:25:10
clips from this morning.
1:25:12
He did all the morning shows.
1:25:14
This is Manhans Welker.
1:25:16
Mr. Secretary, I want to read point 19
1:25:18
of the president's peace plan.
1:25:20
I'll put it up so folks can see
1:25:21
it.
1:25:22
While Gaza redevelopment advances and when the Palestinian
1:25:26
Authority reform program is faithfully carried out, the
1:25:30
conditions may finally be in place for a
1:25:32
credible pathway to Palestinian self-determination and statehood,
1:25:36
which we recognize as the aspiration of the
1:25:39
Palestinian people.
1:25:40
Does the Trump administration now support Palestinian statehood,
1:25:44
Mr. Secretary?
1:25:45
Hamana, Hamana.
1:25:46
Well, look, first of all, that provision was
1:25:48
very important to the countries that signed on
1:25:50
with us and Saudi Arabia, UAE, Qatar, et
1:25:53
cetera.
1:25:53
They all really that's a very important point
1:25:55
to them.
1:25:56
I think the most important point to read
1:25:57
out of that is that you have to
1:25:59
have somebody to turn it over to, right?
1:26:01
Someone that you can hand that over to.
1:26:03
We've always said that if there's going to
1:26:04
be a two state solution, it has to
1:26:05
be negotiated with Israel.
1:26:07
It has to make sure that Israel's security
1:26:09
is taken into account.
1:26:10
And so I would argue that I wouldn't
1:26:12
say this is a new policy position.
1:26:13
What I would say is you want to
1:26:15
be able to have in Gaza a place
1:26:17
that Israel has no interest in governing Gaza.
1:26:19
They want to turn it over to somebody,
1:26:22
some organization that will govern it, that will
1:26:24
not build tunnels and sponsor terrorism and come
1:26:27
across the line and kidnap, rape and murder
1:26:30
Israelis.
1:26:31
That's who they want to turn it over
1:26:32
to.
1:26:33
And right now that doesn't exist.
1:26:34
That has to be built.
1:26:35
But Mr. Secretary, we need you to say
1:26:37
that you are for a Palestinian state.
1:26:40
But Mr. Secretary, in terms of where the
1:26:41
administration stands, yes or no, does the Trump
1:26:45
administration support Palestinian statehood?
1:26:46
That's not a yes or no question.
1:26:48
That's a process.
1:26:49
No, but that's not a yes or no
1:26:50
question.
1:26:51
That's a process.
1:26:52
Ultimately, at the end of the day, we've
1:26:52
always said this has been the consistent position
1:26:55
of this administration, of myself, and of a
1:26:57
lot of people that have watched this for
1:26:58
a very long time.
1:26:59
In order for that aspiration to even be
1:27:01
credible, it has to be realistic.
1:27:03
We can't have a Palestinian state that's governed
1:27:05
by Hamas or by some terrorist organization whose
1:27:08
stated purpose for existence is the destruction of
1:27:11
the Jewish state.
1:27:11
That would never work.
1:27:14
Until Gaza is governed by people that are
1:27:16
not interested in destroying Israel, until there are
1:27:19
no security threats emanating against Israel from Gaza,
1:27:23
forget about statehood.
1:27:24
You're not going to have peace.
1:27:25
So we have to create the conditions for
1:27:27
that.
1:27:28
That's going to take a while.
1:27:29
And that's going to be part of what
1:27:31
these negotiations are about in the days to
1:27:33
come.
1:27:33
But right now, the priority, number one, is
1:27:35
to get the hostages released.
1:27:37
If we can't even get an agreement on
1:27:38
the hostages being released, you ain't going to
1:27:40
have long-term peace here.
1:27:41
So let's get that peace done.
1:27:43
It's the most important.
1:27:44
And then we can move to phase two.
1:27:45
And it'll give momentum to the rest of
1:27:46
the effort.
1:27:47
But this is not going to be easy.
1:27:48
No one said this is going to be
1:27:49
easy.
1:27:50
We are dealing with something that's been going
1:27:51
on for a very long time.
1:27:53
Yeah, there you go.
1:27:55
That's the 20-point plan.
1:27:57
And all the Arab...
1:27:58
Where is Animas of Dogpatch?
1:28:01
Where's a dude named Mohammed?
1:28:03
We need some boots on the ground.
1:28:04
What is Iran thinking?
1:28:06
He'd give us some information.
1:28:08
He's probably floating around.
1:28:10
He's probably part of it.
1:28:11
So...
1:28:12
He's in Doha.
1:28:14
He's in Doha at the moment.
1:28:15
He's in Doha.
1:28:17
So we have...
1:28:19
I want to play this...
1:28:21
This is the NPR version of what we
1:28:23
played for PBS.
1:28:24
But I only think I have to play
1:28:26
clip one here, which is...
1:28:28
Because they decided...
1:28:30
Something came down.
1:28:31
Now, most of these operations, these large-scale
1:28:34
operations, whether it's the New York Times, the
1:28:37
Associated Press, or NPR, PBS, they all have
1:28:41
style guides.
1:28:42
And so you have to keep an eye
1:28:43
on the style guides.
1:28:44
In other words, the style guide will tell
1:28:46
you, as a writer or a reporter, what
1:28:49
terms you can use.
1:28:50
Ah, yes.
1:28:51
And how to put them.
1:28:52
That's how you get, you know, a birthing
1:28:54
person shows up, kind of thing.
1:28:57
And everyone's all of a sudden saying birthing
1:28:59
person.
1:28:59
Pregnant people.
1:29:00
Pregnant people.
1:29:02
Stuff like that.
1:29:03
Front hole.
1:29:05
Front hole.
1:29:05
So they have...
1:29:06
So the style guides...
1:29:08
And I just caught this.
1:29:10
And I...
1:29:11
See if you can catch it.
1:29:12
It's kind of a...
1:29:13
The way I edit it is kind of
1:29:15
a giveaway.
1:29:15
But I thought this was quite interesting.
1:29:17
This is the NPR one clip.
1:29:20
Reaction to President Trump's plan to end the
1:29:22
nearly two-year war in Gaza is being
1:29:24
viewed cautiously by residents there.
1:29:27
Both Israel and Hamas say they endorse Trump's
1:29:29
20-point plan.
1:29:31
But details have yet to be worked out.
1:29:33
NPR's Carrie Khan reports.
1:29:35
Residents in Gaza, like Iman Abu-Akhlain, a
1:29:38
48-year-old mother of four, says the
1:29:40
news of a deal is some relief.
1:29:45
It's like we've been bottled up so tightly,
1:29:47
and now we can take a breath.
1:29:49
Just a small one, as we are still
1:29:51
living in a nightmare, she says.
1:29:53
Israel's military says it's getting ready to implement
1:29:56
Trump's plan and has moved to a defensive
1:29:58
-only position, according to an official not authorized
1:30:01
to speak to the media on the record.
1:30:03
However, Gaza health officials say airstrikes continued overnight,
1:30:06
killing and wounding Gazans.
1:30:10
Okay.
1:30:12
Killing Gazans, not Palestinians.
1:30:15
Oh, good catch.
1:30:17
Oh, it's already shifting.
1:30:19
It's starting to shift.
1:30:21
Now, we'll see if we start hearing the
1:30:23
term Gazans.
1:30:24
Gazans.
1:30:26
Instead of Palestinians.
1:30:28
It's like saying New Yorkers.
1:30:30
Swapping it, you know, swapping out a term
1:30:33
here.
1:30:33
Oh, very good catch.
1:30:35
There's a reason for it.
1:30:35
Very good catch.
1:30:37
So, I found that to be, that really
1:30:39
stopped me in my tracks.
1:30:40
That's where I ended the clip with it.
1:30:42
Yeah, that's good.
1:30:44
There's a part two to this, if you
1:30:45
want to hear it.
1:30:46
It just kind of wraps it up.
1:30:47
Well, it was very short, I think.
1:30:49
So, yeah, of course.
1:30:50
Israel is preparing a team for face-to
1:30:52
-face talks, as the U.S. also sends
1:30:55
envoys to Cairo, according to two people briefed
1:30:58
but not authorized to speak publicly.
1:31:00
Okay, of course, sources.
1:31:02
Yeah, nothing there.
1:31:03
Meanwhile, this Gen Z color revolution around the
1:31:09
world is very interesting.
1:31:12
Yeah, I have a clip on this, too.
1:31:14
Okay, you want to play yours first?
1:31:16
Well, mine is just about specific.
1:31:18
It's a specific one of these Gen Z.
1:31:20
We picked this up when it started in
1:31:22
Nepal.
1:31:23
This is the Gen Z 212.
1:31:27
Morocco's biggest anti-government process in years turned
1:31:30
deadly this week.
1:31:31
The demonstrations are led by a coalition of
1:31:34
Moroccan youth who call themselves Gen Z 212,
1:31:38
named for the nation's dialing code.
1:31:40
The group says the government is pouring billions
1:31:42
of dollars into infrastructure for the 2030 FIFA
1:31:45
World Cup while neglecting domestic issues like health
1:31:48
care and education.
1:31:50
Demonstrations began across Morocco a week ago, and
1:31:53
some have become violent.
1:31:54
This week, three protesters were killed.
1:31:58
So the Nepal thing was actually staring me
1:32:02
in the face because, you know, I looked
1:32:03
at the map, Nepal between India and China.
1:32:06
Oh, hello.
1:32:07
They wanted to join BRICS.
1:32:09
Well, no, you're not joining BRICS.
1:32:11
You're not going to connect India and China
1:32:14
to make it a whole BRICS segment there.
1:32:16
You're not going to do that.
1:32:17
We're going to send the Gen Zs on
1:32:19
you.
1:32:20
I have a little bit longer clip of
1:32:22
Morocco, which is still going on, the Gen
1:32:24
Z 212.
1:32:26
And what's very obvious is that it's very
1:32:30
much like the BLM riots.
1:32:32
You get everybody out there for social means,
1:32:35
like, hey, you know, it's like we're spending
1:32:37
all their money to Israel.
1:32:39
We're against that.
1:32:40
We don't want that.
1:32:41
And then you send in the agitators, the
1:32:43
people with the umbrellas who start smashing the
1:32:45
windows and throwing the firebombs.
1:32:47
And then you've got a mess.
1:32:48
And then it's still the it's the Gen
1:32:50
Zs who are very upset about how the
1:32:52
government is spending money and not on them.
1:32:54
Anger has not abated in Morocco.
1:32:57
For nights on end, protesters have united against
1:33:00
the government, demanding better public services.
1:33:03
In some instances, it has turned violent.
1:33:06
Buildings have been set alight and properties destroyed.
1:33:10
Many citizens feel the isolated incidents undermine demonstrators'
1:33:15
legitimate demands.
1:33:17
We support the protests but reject the destruction.
1:33:20
If we all want to protect public freedom,
1:33:22
demand dignity and call for social justice, we
1:33:24
must understand that social justice means giving everyone
1:33:26
their rights.
1:33:29
As a Moroccan youth, I reject this ugly
1:33:32
behavior of destruction and violence.
1:33:35
Through peaceful protests, we came out demanding our
1:33:38
legitimate rights to proper health care and education.
1:33:41
The initial peaceful gatherings began on Saturday, loosely
1:33:45
organized by Morocco's Gen Z 212 group.
1:33:48
So I found it was mind-blowing on
1:33:52
this France 24.
1:33:56
Yes, they had a whole segment on Gen
1:33:59
Z, on all the Gen Z revolutions, which
1:34:02
I thought was very interesting.
1:34:04
What do all these protests have in common?
1:34:06
Yes, they are all protests across Asia and
1:34:09
Africa.
1:34:10
But there is something more.
1:34:11
Corruption, lack of jobs, poverty, block of social
1:34:14
media platforms.
1:34:15
These are just some of the problems stretching
1:34:18
from Sri Lanka to the Philippines, Bangladesh, Nepal,
1:34:21
Morocco and Madagascar.
1:34:23
Protests have been ongoing for months, all starting
1:34:26
in one main way, led by Gen Z,
1:34:29
the generation born between 1997 and 2012, and
1:34:33
organized through social media.
1:34:35
In Morocco, protests were launched by the anonymous
1:34:37
youth collective called Gen Z 212 on the
1:34:41
platform Discord, referring both to Generation Z and
1:34:44
the country's dialing code 212.
1:34:46
The more than 120,000 members demand reforms
1:34:50
in health and education and criticize the sums
1:34:53
invested in the 2030 World Cup at the
1:34:56
expense of public services.
1:34:57
In Kenya, with the hashtag Ruto Must Go
1:35:00
and the telegram group Gen Z Revo 2,
1:35:03
Gen Z has mobilized against unemployment, tax hikes
1:35:07
and high living costs, sweeping protests across Nairobi
1:35:10
and even breaching the walls of parliament.
1:35:12
Madagascar, one of the world's poorest nations, has
1:35:17
seen Gen Z group rise up against blackouts
1:35:20
and water shortages, leading to the dissolution of
1:35:22
the government, but also leaving at least 22
1:35:25
people dead.
1:35:26
In Nepal, Gen Z outrage erupted after thousands
1:35:30
of young people were posted images and videos
1:35:33
online, showing the luxurious lifestyles of politicians' children,
1:35:37
shared with hashtags like Nepal Kids and Nepal
1:35:40
Babies.
1:35:41
Despite social media ban, youth has organized mass
1:35:44
protests against corruption and inequality.
1:35:47
And the Philippines have seen the student and
1:35:49
youth network Tamana, along with others, leading the
1:35:52
recent marches in Manila over alleged corruption in
1:35:56
flood control and infrastructure projects.
1:35:59
Everywhere, the youth lead and dress, the use
1:36:01
of digital platforms for organization, the cross-border
1:36:04
inspiration.
1:36:06
These mobilizations do not necessarily or immediately result
1:36:10
in lasting reforms.
1:36:11
But it's clear that this generation doesn't want
1:36:13
to survive in a falling system.
1:36:15
They want to voice their grievances and transform
1:36:18
it radically.
1:36:19
So this is some bull crap right here.
1:36:22
Oh, Gen Z, the Gen Z is the
1:36:26
most wussy generation ever.
1:36:28
They're not starting any revolt.
1:36:30
This has op written all over and it
1:36:34
has an intelligence agency written all over it.
1:36:36
But which one and why?
1:36:38
I'm going to tell you.
1:36:40
Asia and Africa.
1:36:42
Who has the interest in Asia and Africa?
1:36:45
It's always been the British crown, Canada.
1:36:49
I'll give the North Sea Nexus a break
1:36:51
on this one.
1:36:52
So I was corrected by many people about
1:36:54
Discord, because all this, oh, it starts on
1:36:56
Discord, starts on Discord.
1:36:58
And I said, it's an open source platform.
1:37:00
I was corrected by a number of producers.
1:37:01
No, no.
1:37:02
There's a lot of open source projects that
1:37:05
are run and managed on Discord.
1:37:08
But Discord is a complete company product.
1:37:11
You get it for free.
1:37:13
Now, when you get something for free, you're
1:37:15
actually the product.
1:37:15
We know that.
1:37:16
The business model is very odd of Discord.
1:37:21
You can have a turbo Discord where you
1:37:25
can actually give the company money and raise
1:37:27
money for your Discord server.
1:37:29
You can get extra benefits and more expansive
1:37:33
features.
1:37:36
They do have some advertising.
1:37:38
I'm looking at this company, and it's founded
1:37:39
by two nerds who are gamers.
1:37:43
But if you look at their timeline on
1:37:48
their Aboot page, spring 2025, Jason, he's one
1:37:52
of the co-founders, one of the nerds,
1:37:54
announces his transition from CEO to board member
1:37:57
and advisor.
1:37:58
And Humam Sakhnini becomes Discord's new CEO.
1:38:03
Sakhnini brings deep gaming industry experience from leadership
1:38:07
roles at Activision, Blizzard, and King.
1:38:10
So I go look at this guy.
1:38:12
Well, isn't this guy very interesting?
1:38:16
He initially worked for the investment bank Nesbit
1:38:18
Burns, Canadian crown, for the Department of Finance
1:38:21
in Canada.
1:38:22
This is a London, City of London guy.
1:38:25
Participated in the 20th Annual Meeting of the
1:38:28
Canadian Economics Association in Calgary.
1:38:30
Authored three of Department of Finance's fiscal policy
1:38:33
and economic analysis branch working papers.
1:38:37
He argued in favor of pre-funding pension
1:38:40
plans.
1:38:40
It sounds like a gamer to me.
1:38:42
He later founded and co-directed the financial
1:38:45
technology group firm IS Group, which provided services
1:38:49
to mutual funds and hedge funds.
1:38:51
Let's look at his education, shall we?
1:38:56
Graduated Bachelor of Arts in Economics from the
1:38:59
University of Western Ontario before receiving a Master
1:39:02
of Arts in Economics from the Queen's University.
1:39:06
He earned a Masters of Business Administration degree
1:39:08
from Yale.
1:39:09
This guy is an op.
1:39:11
And the minute he comes in, not three
1:39:14
months later, all of a sudden Discord is
1:39:16
the platform of choice for all of these
1:39:19
Gen Z revolutions.
1:39:21
There's your op.
1:39:23
It's blatant right there.
1:39:25
Spent eight years as partner at McKinsey and
1:39:27
Company.
1:39:28
You know what?
1:39:29
This guy's absolutely a gamer.
1:39:33
He joined London-based King in April 2016
1:39:36
as Chief Financial Officer.
1:39:38
And of course, that's where he led the
1:39:39
acquisition of Activision Blizzard.
1:39:42
And you know what?
1:39:43
Well, I don't think he's an op.
1:39:45
He's a spook.
1:39:46
Well, a spook part of the op.
1:39:48
And it's clearly the Brits who are doing
1:39:50
this.
1:39:51
They have all the interest historically in Asia
1:39:53
and Africa.
1:39:55
It's like, OK, we see what you're doing.
1:39:58
And they have just as much benefit to
1:40:01
not seeing Bricks succeed as anybody else.
1:40:04
They still have the pound.
1:40:05
It's still a big deal to them.
1:40:08
So be very aware of Discord Gen Z
1:40:11
revolutions in our own country, which will be
1:40:14
a bunch of soy boys and girls go,
1:40:17
oh, what do we want?
1:40:19
We want democracy.
1:40:21
When do we want it?
1:40:22
We want it whenever you give it to
1:40:24
us.
1:40:24
Yeah.
1:40:25
And then we have a lot of Gen
1:40:27
Zers that listen to this show that are
1:40:29
more than happy to tell us what they
1:40:32
think.
1:40:33
Yes, I'm looking forward to it.
1:40:35
And calling them out as a bunch of
1:40:37
wimps is probably not necessarily 100% true.
1:40:42
I'm generalizing, obviously.
1:40:43
I'm generalizing.
1:40:45
You're generalizing.
1:40:46
Yeah, of course.
1:40:47
Obviously, I'm generalizing.
1:40:50
Meanwhile, we've got Europe.
1:40:52
But I'm with you.
1:40:54
I don't believe that there is a 212
1:40:57
thing and all the rest of it in
1:40:58
these obscure countries where you have this where
1:41:01
they're rioting.
1:41:03
And it's just obviously been co-opted is
1:41:07
the old.
1:41:07
It would get some old terms here.
1:41:09
Yes.
1:41:09
Old communist terms of co-option.
1:41:11
These guys are co-opted in some way.
1:41:13
And they've got leaders.
1:41:14
It's not leaderless, but the leader is probably
1:41:16
not Gen Z at all.
1:41:18
And the whole thing is corrupted.
1:41:20
Gen Z is a generalization by itself.
1:41:22
It's like boomer, like all boomers.
1:41:24
I mean, I'm not even officially.
1:41:25
Well, OK, I don't feel like a boomer,
1:41:28
but put me as a boomer, Gen X,
1:41:29
whatever.
1:41:31
I feel like a teenager.
1:41:34
Finally, finally an opening for the show.
1:41:36
I've been waiting for it.
1:41:37
Well, I have the sense of humor for
1:41:40
it.
1:41:40
Um, so meanwhile, let's sigh up the European
1:41:44
Union a little bit more because we still
1:41:47
need to borrow all these hundreds of millions
1:41:49
for the omnibus, for the omnibus to get
1:41:52
the drone wall implemented.
1:41:53
We need the drone wall.
1:41:54
We need more money, more money, more money.
1:41:56
I have an idea.
1:41:58
Oh, check this out.
1:41:59
Munich Airport says it is gradually resuming flights
1:42:01
after more drones were spotted early this Saturday.
1:42:05
The airport shut down Friday evening for the
1:42:07
second day in a row over drone sightings
1:42:09
with dozens of flights and more than 6000
1:42:11
passengers affected.
1:42:13
More delays are expected throughout the day.
1:42:16
Airports in Denmark, Norway and Poland have all
1:42:18
recently suspended flights due to unidentified drones.
1:42:22
Some European countries have directly blamed Russia, but
1:42:25
Moscow has denied allegations.
1:42:27
Here's Germany's interior minister.
1:42:31
We are in a race between drone threats
1:42:33
and drone defense.
1:42:34
It's a race.
1:42:35
We want to and must win this race.
1:42:37
That is why it is important to take
1:42:39
the necessary measures at the European level to
1:42:42
upgrade our technology, pool our expertise and ensure
1:42:46
that drone defense technology is also developed in
1:42:48
Europe in cooperation with partners from Israel and
1:42:53
Ukraine.
1:42:53
Ah, bring in Israel.
1:42:54
Perfect.
1:42:56
Yeah, we need the drone technology.
1:42:59
Oh my goodness.
1:43:01
Yeah, drones.
1:43:02
Yeah, we have anti-drones because that'll stop
1:43:04
an ICBM.
1:43:06
Oh, and then flights are canceled.
1:43:10
It's because of the Russian drones.
1:43:12
What a sigh up.
1:43:13
And then Ursula, the moron that she is
1:43:16
hair.
1:43:17
We're going to call her hair Ursula from
1:43:19
now on.
1:43:20
Hair Ursula.
1:43:22
As she is.
1:43:23
Well, you could be spelled H-A-I
1:43:25
-R.
1:43:26
Oh, that's a good one, too.
1:43:28
Hair Ursula.
1:43:29
She's got, you know, we're not done, Europe.
1:43:32
We're not done.
1:43:33
The race is just getting started.
1:43:36
It's not too late for us to get
1:43:38
in on this scam.
1:43:39
Too often.
1:43:40
I hear that Europe is late to the
1:43:43
race.
1:43:44
The skeptics say we will repeat the main
1:43:47
mistakes of the past and another generation of
1:43:50
European talents will be forced to leave.
1:43:52
I strongly disagree, not only because the race
1:43:58
is still warming up, but also because I've
1:44:01
seen what Europeans can do when we set
1:44:04
our eyes on a goal.
1:44:06
What has Europe done for me lately?
1:44:09
What what fantastic technology has Europe brought us?
1:44:13
Well, you know, when AI is in the
1:44:15
loop.
1:44:16
Because when AI is in the loop, we
1:44:17
reach better solutions fast, reliable, affordable, reliable, affordable.
1:44:24
It's safe and effective.
1:44:25
Some of your startups are already pioneering it.
1:44:28
I don't know of a single one.
1:44:30
Let me tell you, I'm a medical doctor
1:44:31
by training.
1:44:32
I'm amazed what AI can do in medicines.
1:44:36
AI can assist doctors in diagnosing cancer much,
1:44:40
much earlier or accelerate innovative medicines discovery.
1:44:44
The big promise of AI, innovative medicine discovery
1:44:48
and detecting cancer.
1:44:50
What she's talking about, what's it got to
1:44:51
do with Europe?
1:44:52
It's all Ellison.
1:44:53
It's all Oracle.
1:44:54
That's the promise of Stargate.
1:44:56
But you know what?
1:44:57
Europe can do it.
1:44:58
We will spare no effort to make Europe
1:45:01
an AI continent.
1:45:02
That means no expense.
1:45:07
We will spare no effort to make Europe
1:45:11
an AI continent.
1:45:13
We will spare no effort to make you
1:45:16
choose Europe because this is the great mission
1:45:20
of our times.
1:45:22
Thank you for inviting me.
1:45:23
And long live Europe.
1:45:35
My Lord, that is insane.
1:45:39
Well, at least she didn't mention quantum.
1:45:42
No, well, I haven't seen the whole speech.
1:45:44
I'm sure she did.
1:45:45
Now, before we move on, I just need
1:45:49
to stop because we have now reached peak
1:45:51
AI.
1:45:53
This is an amazing thing that is happening.
1:45:56
And this is SORA 2.
1:45:59
Have you heard of, seen it, or are
1:46:02
you aware of SORA 2?
1:46:03
JC has brought me up to speed on
1:46:05
it.
1:46:05
SORA 2, I have a two-parter here
1:46:11
of Shibesh talking to a WIRED reporter because,
1:46:17
of course, if you really want to know
1:46:18
what's going on in technology, WIRED is still
1:46:22
relevant.
1:46:23
SORA is it, baby.
1:46:25
Today, we're announcing the SORA app powered by
1:46:27
the all-new SORA 2.
1:46:29
Well, that may look and sound just like
1:46:31
OpenAI CEO Sam Altman, but it's actually a
1:46:34
video generated completely by AI using the company's
1:46:39
new app, SORA 2.
1:46:42
OpenAI says it allows people to create and
1:46:44
share AI-generated video clips featuring themselves and
1:46:48
their friends.
1:46:49
Now, the clips posted by the company online
1:46:51
show how unrealistic scenarios can look hyper-realistic
1:46:56
using this tool.
1:46:57
All right, I got to bring in Zoe
1:46:58
Schiffer, the director of business and industry at
1:47:01
WIRED magazine.
1:47:02
Zoe, these videos are incredible.
1:47:05
Tell us a little more about this AI
1:47:07
tool and what people can do with it.
1:47:10
Yeah, so OpenAI first released SORA, their video
1:47:14
generation model, about a year ago.
1:47:16
Since then, a lot of other companies have
1:47:18
kind of jumped into the space and the
1:47:21
technology has been moving really, really fast.
1:47:23
During this time, OpenAI CEO Sam Altman basically
1:47:26
directed the team to start working on an
1:47:29
app.
1:47:30
The thinking was that just like ChatGPT allowed
1:47:33
people to kind of realize the potential of
1:47:36
generated text, creating kind of a TikTok-style
1:47:40
app to watch and create AI-generated videos
1:47:44
would be like a huge unlock to make
1:47:46
people realize the potential for video generation.
1:47:49
Now, I have some analysis about this SORA
1:47:52
2 app.
1:47:52
But first, we just have to finish with
1:47:54
this WIRED reporter.
1:47:56
I think you and I universally would agree
1:47:58
that most technology reporters are whores for the
1:48:01
technology companies.
1:48:03
And when you actually say that you're not,
1:48:05
that's like a red flag.
1:48:07
Yeah, you got to wonder what some of
1:48:08
these Hollywood directors are thinking about some of
1:48:10
these videos because they look so realistic.
1:48:12
So realistic.
1:48:13
And put yourself in Avatar or some of
1:48:16
these big blockbuster films.
1:48:17
It's amazing to see what they're able to
1:48:19
do.
1:48:21
Are they approaching, though, the safety concerns as
1:48:23
this technology becomes more and more advanced?
1:48:27
I mean, there's some scary stuff that can
1:48:28
come out of this too.
1:48:29
Scary stuff.
1:48:29
Yeah, absolutely.
1:48:30
And far be it for me to like
1:48:31
act as an OpenAI spokesperson, but as someone
1:48:34
who's reported on this company pretty deeply.
1:48:37
What does that even mean?
1:48:38
Far be it for me to act as
1:48:40
an OpenAI spokesperson.
1:48:42
Why would you even say that?
1:48:47
Far be it for me, which is a
1:48:49
phrase I don't think I've ever used in
1:48:52
my life, but I've heard it.
1:48:55
Far be it for me, which is just
1:48:57
crazy if you think it was trying to
1:48:59
figure out what it means, I would be
1:49:01
an AI spokesperson.
1:49:03
To act as an AI spokesperson.
1:49:05
Yeah, it's almost like a scripted comment.
1:49:10
Well, she's been read in and she's spouting
1:49:12
the company line.
1:49:13
That's what I think it means.
1:49:15
Yeah, absolutely.
1:49:16
And far be it for me to like
1:49:17
act as an OpenAI spokesperson, but as someone
1:49:20
who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I
1:49:23
will say that I actually.
1:49:24
Which means she's got inside knowledge, which means
1:49:27
she has access.
1:49:27
Yeah, and then she uses a performative I
1:49:29
will say.
1:49:31
Yes.
1:49:31
Why don't you just say it?
1:49:32
Why do you say I will say and
1:49:34
then you say it?
1:49:34
Why don't you just say it?
1:49:36
Exactly.
1:49:37
Yeah, absolutely.
1:49:38
And far be it for me to like
1:49:40
act as an OpenAI spokesperson, but as someone
1:49:42
who's reported on this company pretty deeply, I
1:49:45
will say that I actually do think they're
1:49:48
taking these concerns extremely seriously.
1:49:50
Earlier this week, the company rolled out parental
1:49:53
controls to help parents, you know, have a
1:49:56
little more oversight into their the accounts of
1:49:58
their children and specifically their teenagers.
1:50:00
When the Sora app rolled out, they like
1:50:03
kind of baked in some of those parental
1:50:04
controls specifically to allow parents to stop their
1:50:07
kids from like doom scrolling.
1:50:08
So I think that they're trying to be
1:50:10
proactive and get ahead of at least some
1:50:13
of the major concerns.
1:50:15
And to be clear, this is an app
1:50:16
that you can use, anybody can use on
1:50:18
their phone or tablet or computer, correct?
1:50:21
Yeah, exactly.
1:50:22
So you can download it now in the
1:50:24
app store.
1:50:24
I think at least today you need a
1:50:25
code from someone that's using it, but it's
1:50:27
already kind of taken off.
1:50:29
There's a lot of people jumping in.
1:50:30
There are some restrictions.
1:50:31
Like if you try and generate a video
1:50:33
of say Taylor Swift or even like Darth
1:50:36
Vader, it'll stop you.
1:50:37
It'll say that like there are copyright restrictions
1:50:39
that are baked in and won't allow you
1:50:41
to do that.
1:50:42
Yeah, her full performative was, I will say
1:50:45
I actually do believe.
1:50:47
That's impressive.
1:50:48
That's a mouthful.
1:50:49
So this is a brilliant move by OpenAI
1:50:52
because this is going to be, I could
1:50:56
already see it, highly addictive.
1:50:58
People love it.
1:50:59
Scaramanga got put out of business in like
1:51:01
one fell swoop or possibly he can open
1:51:04
a business depending on how he manages his
1:51:07
time.
1:51:09
The whole point of this, if you look
1:51:11
at the app, what is the first thing
1:51:12
it wants you to do?
1:51:13
Scan your face.
1:51:15
This thing is fresh content for OpenAI's large
1:51:20
language models and every numbnut is going to
1:51:24
do this.
1:51:24
Oh yeah, I put myself in this movie.
1:51:27
Let me show you my face.
1:51:29
Yeah, you got it.
1:51:31
You got it.
1:51:31
Oh, look at this.
1:51:32
Of course, they're going to be sued into
1:51:35
oblivion, but by then they'll already have what
1:51:37
they need.
1:51:38
They needed fresh photographic, videographic content because they
1:51:45
know where it's going.
1:51:46
They know that this whole notion of it's
1:51:49
for business.
1:51:51
They need to be generating video and pictures
1:51:54
and they need new content and I will
1:51:58
never put my face on it.
1:51:59
I would say, I think if there's pictures
1:52:02
of us out there, I think you should
1:52:04
just fill the entire internet with slop of
1:52:06
us, but I'll never put my face on
1:52:09
it because Taylor Swift shouldn't have any more
1:52:13
protection than I have by my likeness.
1:52:19
I think this is a move that is
1:52:22
blowing everybody out of the water and Google
1:52:25
is going to try and run and catch
1:52:26
up and it's going to cost them more
1:52:28
and more and more money and that's where
1:52:30
the next trillion dollars is going to have
1:52:32
to come because we're almost there, boys.
1:52:34
We just had another trillion dollars.
1:52:36
One of our young friends, she worked for
1:52:43
an AI recruiting company in Austin, not that
1:52:47
they were recruiting AI people, but they used
1:52:51
AI to match job openings with candidates and
1:52:57
she said it was 30-70.
1:53:00
30% will be great, 70% would
1:53:02
just not work and they're about to close
1:53:05
the doors.
1:53:05
They just couldn't make it work.
1:53:07
They always kept saying to their investors, if
1:53:09
we just have a little bit more, we're
1:53:10
almost there.
1:53:11
We can almost do perfect matches every single
1:53:14
time.
1:53:15
You can't.
1:53:16
This stuff is hallucinating.
1:53:18
You can't.
1:53:19
You can't get 100%.
1:53:21
You can get maybe up to 70, maybe
1:53:23
60.
1:53:24
This is a losing proposition.
1:53:27
So Altman just extended his life, I don't
1:53:30
know, his business life by maybe several years
1:53:33
because this thing, I think it's going to
1:53:35
overtake TikTok.
1:53:39
You want to dictate?
1:53:40
I disagree completely.
1:53:42
You disagree with it's going to overtake TikTok?
1:53:44
Yeah, because it's a piece of crap.
1:53:48
I got the lecture about this.
1:53:50
I was shown all the videos and even
1:53:52
JC admits that this stuff is not watchable.
1:53:56
Yeah, it's very good.
1:53:58
I mean, you see very high resolution images
1:54:01
of something happening that doesn't exist in real
1:54:03
life and a lot of it looks like
1:54:05
this has to be a real person, but
1:54:07
it's not.
1:54:08
But it is, there were some of these
1:54:10
videos, they were 30 seconds long and you
1:54:13
couldn't watch five seconds before you were bored
1:54:16
stiff.
1:54:17
I have a different opinion.
1:54:20
A real good TikTok video of a fat
1:54:23
chick falling on her butt off of a
1:54:25
bicycle is far superior to the garbage that
1:54:29
this thing is producing.
1:54:30
But the difference is you can put yourself
1:54:34
and your friends in the movie.
1:54:36
Oh, who cares?
1:54:37
Nobody cares.
1:54:38
I think that's I'm not going to I'm
1:54:40
not interested in that.
1:54:41
And I don't think it will be.
1:54:42
No, you're not.
1:54:43
I'm not either.
1:54:44
It will be the number one app within.
1:54:46
I don't think a lot.
1:54:47
You are.
1:54:48
We have to assume that we're not alone
1:54:50
in our thinking.
1:54:53
I'm giving you my my input.
1:54:56
I'm giving you my opinion.
1:54:58
Agree with me that we're not interested in
1:55:00
putting our faces on all these sorts of
1:55:01
things.
1:55:02
We aren't.
1:55:02
We're we we you and I are in
1:55:06
the majority.
1:55:07
You don't even use a phone.
1:55:10
So you're not you're in the minority.
1:55:14
You are in the minority.
1:55:15
You don't do self.
1:55:16
I am not in the minority when it
1:55:18
comes to when it comes to not using
1:55:20
the phone or keeping it in the drawer
1:55:21
to be to be straight about it.
1:55:23
Oh, and you bring it up with anybody.
1:55:25
They fall in love.
1:55:27
Oh, my God.
1:55:27
I wish I could do the same thing.
1:55:29
I wish I wish I wish.
1:55:30
I am in the majority.
1:55:32
I just happen to be the only one
1:55:34
to follow through.
1:55:35
Oh, OK, OK.
1:55:36
You are the only drug addicts who got
1:55:38
out.
1:55:39
Yes, you are a winner winning.
1:55:43
John C.
1:55:43
Dvorak is a winner, but that is not
1:55:46
the majority of people.
1:55:47
The majority of people are losers and they
1:55:50
are addicted to their phones and now they
1:55:52
can put themselves into the movie.
1:55:54
No, this this is going to fly.
1:55:57
But we'll see.
1:55:58
We'll see.
1:55:59
I'm I'm willing to admit defeat.
1:56:02
I'll give it one month.
1:56:03
This is the number one app.
1:56:04
Everyone's talking about it.
1:56:06
Every news show, all these news, all these
1:56:09
all these.
1:56:09
Well, you know, you can make something the
1:56:11
number one app, even get these news idiots
1:56:13
to push it because everybody fall apart.
1:56:16
Ego man is ego.
1:56:18
People love themselves.
1:56:19
That's what the whole selfie thing is about.
1:56:21
An entire an entire device was created.
1:56:25
I'm not going to argue against you on
1:56:26
the selfie thing.
1:56:27
It is bothersome.
1:56:28
It's a selfie movie is what they're going
1:56:30
to love it.
1:56:35
People will love it.
1:56:36
They will love it.
1:56:37
And it's completely free.
1:56:40
How much this guy is burning cash.
1:56:43
That's why that's why they need to have
1:56:46
this be successful and they will make it
1:56:48
successful.
1:56:48
Come hook or crook.
1:56:49
Oh, there's a Jew reference for you.
1:56:51
They're going to make it successful.
1:56:53
Altman.
1:56:56
Taken over, taken over.
1:56:57
Everybody's going to be going to be psyoping
1:56:58
everybody with this or to this.
1:57:01
Right.
1:57:01
Everybody loves Israel.
1:57:03
They're going to make it the number one
1:57:05
app because he needs another couple of trillion
1:57:07
dollars to finally get to the business stuff
1:57:09
that's actually going to work, which we know
1:57:11
it just won't.
1:57:15
In the meantime, Spotify removed.
1:57:18
Well, you have to give the guy credit
1:57:19
for keeping.
1:57:21
He's got the balls in the air.
1:57:23
I give him a lot of credit.
1:57:24
He's got a bunch of plates.
1:57:25
He's spinning them around.
1:57:26
There's another one.
1:57:27
There's another one.
1:57:28
That's what you do as an entrepreneur.
1:57:30
How long does this go on?
1:57:31
Hey, as long as he can keep putting
1:57:32
plates up, he can spin them.
1:57:35
And Spotify now, now they're in trouble.
1:57:38
Spotify is in trouble because they had to
1:57:41
keep saying that, but they keep making money.
1:57:44
Well, well, that's kind of the point.
1:57:48
They had they deleted 75 million songs from
1:57:53
their catalog.
1:57:55
And they and the reason they did that
1:57:57
is because the majority shareholders of Spotify, even
1:58:00
in the public markets, are the publishing companies
1:58:03
and the publishing companies like, hold on a
1:58:05
second.
1:58:06
We can't have this.
1:58:07
We can't have every Tom, Dick and Harry
1:58:09
making our money off of this, off of
1:58:12
these AI songs.
1:58:15
So I think that you're going to see
1:58:17
some other platforms picking this up.
1:58:19
I would if I had a music platform,
1:58:21
I'd be like all AI all the time.
1:58:23
Bring it over here.
1:58:24
Make money, make money with your songs.
1:58:27
So you think that Spotify made a mistake
1:58:30
when they ran these these fake bands and
1:58:32
they ran them as legit and they were
1:58:35
found out?
1:58:36
And then, yeah, the public, the music publishers
1:58:38
making actual music.
1:58:39
Yeah, the owners, owners got very mad.
1:58:42
The owners decided, hey, wait a minute.
1:58:43
Yeah, the true owners.
1:58:45
Yeah, they got very mad.
1:58:46
Well, you know, easy money.
1:58:47
So I don't know.
1:58:48
We'll see what Apple and Amazon does.
1:58:52
But I mean, people were loving this.
1:58:55
Like, hey, I just made a song.
1:58:56
It cost me 20 bucks a month to
1:58:58
make a thousand songs.
1:58:59
And I'm making five bucks on royalties.
1:59:02
Oh, yeah, yeah, yeah.
1:59:05
Hey, you know, more trucks.
1:59:08
I'm monetizing, man.
1:59:09
I'm monetizing, monetizing my creativity, my prompting creativity.
1:59:14
Please, more of it.
1:59:15
Please fill the Internet with as much of
1:59:17
this slop as possible.
1:59:18
Keep it going.
1:59:20
Just keep it going until nothing is usable.
1:59:23
I mean, already, if you just...
1:59:25
I was looking for...
1:59:27
I was looking for a story on Nepal
1:59:30
with a Gen Z thing that included Discord.
1:59:35
Well, you have to wade through at least
1:59:37
15 AI-generated news stories to find something.
1:59:42
And even then, it's like still dubious.
1:59:45
It's filling everything up.
1:59:49
And still, the podcast, it's industrial complex.
1:59:53
We need a tag.
1:59:54
We need to tag this AI.
1:59:56
We can't have AI, AI podcast.
2:00:00
Please.
2:00:02
Why?
2:00:03
Yeah, because the advertisers are getting fleeced.
2:00:06
That's why the advertisers are getting mad.
2:00:07
Advertisers got to get a clue.
2:00:11
They will.
2:00:12
They will.
2:00:13
They always do.
2:00:13
And then they get, they drop off.
2:00:15
And of course, it does a shake out.
2:00:17
You know, Armageddon, the podcast, they all go
2:00:21
out of business.
2:00:21
The ones that try to make money.
2:00:23
And then all of a sudden, something changes
2:00:27
and the advertisers are suckered back.
2:00:29
They always get suckered back.
2:00:31
They will.
2:00:32
Look at these numbers.
2:00:36
Hey, Bob, have you seen these numbers?
2:00:40
I think we got an opportunity here.
2:00:42
And with that, I want to thank you
2:00:44
for your courage saying in the morning to
2:00:45
you, the man who put the C in
2:00:46
the one and only AI continent.
2:00:48
Say hello, my friend on the other end.
2:00:50
The one, the only Mr. John C.
2:00:52
DeVore.
2:01:02
In the morning to the trolls in the
2:01:04
troll room.
2:01:05
Stand still.
2:01:06
Let me catch you for a second.
2:01:07
There we go.
2:01:11
Dog days of summer.
2:01:13
2158 listening live.
2:01:16
And they are listening on no agenda stream
2:01:19
dot com, which should be fixed.
2:01:21
Tell your friends.
2:01:22
Tell your neighbors.
2:01:22
Everything works again.
2:01:23
They are trolling along in the troll room.
2:01:26
Troll room that I own.
2:01:27
Also, no agenda stream dot com.
2:01:29
You can use your modern podcast app, which
2:01:31
may or may not have some AI slop
2:01:33
in it.
2:01:34
But of course, the biggest downside to podcasting
2:01:37
is there's no discovery mechanism.
2:01:39
So it's also its biggest protection.
2:01:41
So there's no algo that's shoving podcasts in
2:01:45
your face all the time on the podcast
2:01:46
apps yet.
2:01:49
No, it's decentralized.
2:01:51
It's impossible to happen.
2:01:53
It's impossible.
2:01:54
It will not happen, which is good.
2:01:57
And the more slop, the more people will
2:01:59
want to hear two old dudes yacking away.
2:02:02
Oh, it feels so comfortable, doesn't it?
2:02:04
Just to hear people make mistakes.
2:02:06
Yeah, it does feel kind of good.
2:02:08
Oh, they disagree.
2:02:09
Oh, no.
2:02:09
They actually sound emotional about something.
2:02:13
Oh, oh, my.
2:02:14
Man, you and your noise makers.
2:02:17
Oh, good lord.
2:02:18
You and your noise makers.
2:02:20
I got another one here.
2:02:23
I've got the sign noise maker.
2:02:26
Modern podcast apps.
2:02:27
Go get yourself one of those.
2:02:29
It's your protection against AI slop.
2:02:31
Go to podcastapps.com.
2:02:33
Pick one up.
2:02:33
They're all pretty darn good, I would say.
2:02:35
And with that, of course, you will also
2:02:37
be alerted when we go live.
2:02:38
You can listen live in your podcast app.
2:02:40
What legacy app does that?
2:02:41
Let me think.
2:02:42
None of them.
2:02:43
And within 90 seconds of publishing, you will
2:02:46
be notified as well.
2:02:47
Which legacy app does that?
2:02:48
Let me think.
2:02:48
None of them, of course.
2:02:50
That's why you want to be ahead of
2:02:52
the times and on top of the news.
2:02:55
Wasn't that, uh, was that, uh, New York
2:02:59
Daily?
2:02:59
Was it the Daily Post?
2:03:00
No, I don't think so.
2:03:01
Ahead of the times and on top of
2:03:03
the news.
2:03:04
I didn't.
2:03:05
I lived in New York for a while.
2:03:07
I remember these things.
2:03:09
The extra E, yes.
2:03:14
Drop the extra S for savings.
2:03:16
Dial a mattress.
2:03:19
I remember that.
2:03:20
Crazy Eddie's prices are insane.
2:03:24
So, um, the 26th of October will be
2:03:27
18 years that we do in this podcast.
2:03:29
And all the, all that time, John has
2:03:31
been studying my Tourette's and he is now
2:03:32
an expert, which is amazing.
2:03:34
I am.
2:03:34
Because we've only seen each other twice in
2:03:36
the last 10 years.
2:03:37
Once is enough.
2:03:42
Ditto.
2:03:43
Right back at you, Bubba.
2:03:46
So we accept time, talent, or treasure in
2:03:48
return for the value that we provide you.
2:03:50
And we think that after 18 years, people
2:03:53
agree.
2:03:54
Four out of five doctors will say that
2:03:56
the Noah Jenner Show provides value.
2:03:58
And you can provide that back to us
2:04:00
in many different ways.
2:04:01
Monetary is the one that makes the show
2:04:03
guaranteed to continue.
2:04:04
But we also accept other things such as
2:04:07
AI slop.
2:04:08
And we get that from our Noah Jenner
2:04:10
artists who are now prompt jockeys.
2:04:12
And one day, one day, the actual artists
2:04:15
will return.
2:04:16
You can wait for it.
2:04:17
When everyone's listening to AI slop songs, eventually,
2:04:20
you know, a Ramones comes along or.
2:04:24
I think they said the same thing about
2:04:26
Photoshop.
2:04:28
Well, clip art, Photoshop, everything.
2:04:31
And it was, it was all a problem.
2:04:32
Technology is always a problem.
2:04:35
We don't want to be Luddites, but there
2:04:37
you go.
2:04:38
Hey, we had a new artist check in.
2:04:40
He'd only been a Noah Jenner artist for
2:04:41
two weeks.
2:04:42
And we liked his AI sloppiness.
2:04:45
His name is Jock10, J-O-Q-10.
2:04:49
He did the artwork for episode 1804, which
2:04:52
we titled Mucho Retardo.
2:04:57
We liked that.
2:04:58
And it was a fat general in the
2:05:00
submarine.
2:05:00
He couldn't get in or he couldn't get
2:05:02
out.
2:05:02
And people liked it.
2:05:04
And we liked it too.
2:05:05
It was an admiral.
2:05:05
Oh, is it?
2:05:05
How do you know it's an admiral?
2:05:07
Because it's a submarine.
2:05:08
Oh, thank you.
2:05:09
Good point.
2:05:11
Thank God, you know about these things.
2:05:14
Fat admiral.
2:05:15
F-A, fat admiral.
2:05:19
And of course, these were as uploaded to
2:05:21
noagendaartgenerator.com.
2:05:23
If you're having trouble uploading a piece of
2:05:25
art, you need to have the exact dimensions
2:05:28
as specified.
2:05:28
That's just a little tip for those of
2:05:32
you having trouble.
2:05:32
It needs to be the exact dimensions in
2:05:35
order to upload.
2:05:36
And let me see.
2:05:37
We looked at everything, of course.
2:05:40
There was a lot of hobbies.
2:05:43
Well, there was the battle ready from Blue
2:05:44
Acorn.
2:05:45
That was a fat soldier eating a donut.
2:05:48
I'd say that was probably a close second.
2:05:51
We had lots of stares running up and
2:05:55
down.
2:05:55
You like the John Adams bug out kit
2:05:57
for some reason.
2:05:59
Yeah, it was too small.
2:06:01
It was too small, but it included a
2:06:02
handgun, a revolver, a flashlight, a cracker.
2:06:07
I like the one cracker.
2:06:09
Like a graham cracker kit and some water.
2:06:13
Let me see what else was there.
2:06:15
A lot of sombreros.
2:06:16
A lot of sombreros, which didn't really work.
2:06:20
Again, we see people using collapsing models.
2:06:24
The mastermind, your models collapsing that you're using.
2:06:28
Yes, you have to.
2:06:29
Yes, that's right.
2:06:30
We made a point to mention him.
2:06:34
The mastermind has needs to take his pieces
2:06:37
and either put them in Photoshop or someplace
2:06:39
to to brighten them up.
2:06:41
Get rid of the you have a they're
2:06:43
dull.
2:06:46
Yeah, they're very dull.
2:06:48
And it's not a big deal.
2:06:49
You can put them in a Photoshop and
2:06:51
there's a couple of filters.
2:06:52
You can just pop, make them pop.
2:06:54
But it's just interesting to see that there's
2:06:57
model collapse, whatever you're using.
2:06:59
There's been one or two models that I
2:07:01
don't know what he's using, but it's getting
2:07:03
worse.
2:07:03
It's muddy.
2:07:04
This is the worst I've ever seen it.
2:07:06
It's getting worse.
2:07:07
And the more this is out there, that
2:07:09
getting worse.
2:07:09
It's just bad.
2:07:10
No, you are so optimistic about your.
2:07:13
I am.
2:07:13
Why don't you go live with Sam Albin?
2:07:17
I'm sure he'd love to have you.
2:07:19
Why don't you just go hang out?
2:07:20
Get a room with Sam Altman.
2:07:23
No agenda.
2:07:23
Our generator dot com is where you can
2:07:25
upload your slop.
2:07:26
And we do appreciate people doing it all,
2:07:30
to be honest.
2:07:33
I'm already looking at today's art.
2:07:35
There's plenty of opportunity to win people.
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Plenty of opportunity.
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Just typing in drone EU flag.
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2:07:43
a winning nod.
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That's not going to happen.
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As part of this value for value model,
2:07:49
we, of course, want to thank our financial
2:07:50
supporters who all they do is this.
2:07:54
You see, man, hands by blue.
2:07:57
Hold on a second.
2:07:58
No, hold on a second.
2:08:02
Let me see.
2:08:03
Man hands.
2:08:03
You're jumping ahead of the game.
2:08:06
Where's man hands?
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Oh, man.
2:08:10
That is gross.
2:08:12
That's gross.
2:08:14
That's here's how value for value works.
2:08:18
There's no levels, no subscriptions.
2:08:20
Of course, no tote bag.
2:08:22
You know, all you do is you listen
2:08:23
to the show is, OK, I like this
2:08:25
episode.
2:08:26
I got something out of it.
2:08:27
Let me send these guys some some coin
2:08:29
and whatever that value represents to you.
2:08:32
You put it into a number of people
2:08:33
like numerology in general.
2:08:34
So send this a number that is meaningful
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And we will now thank a very few
2:08:45
amount of supporters.
2:08:46
I'm sure that, you know, our lack of
2:08:49
audience capture is going to hurt us severely.
2:08:52
John's no doubt about it.
2:08:53
It happens.
2:08:55
It happens.
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Yeah, it's happened throughout throughout the eight.
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But at least we're honest purveyors of the
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That's exactly right.
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And we don't have to do stupid stuff
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like saying, oh, I'm not unhappy.
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Are you unhappy, John?
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We don't have a suicide pact.
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I'm not going to kill myself.
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claim the title as secretary general of water
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well drillers.
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It's a good one.
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As such, can I humbly request karma for
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my small water well business?
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Haas services.
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Any no agenda producers welcome to contact me
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for you.
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I would like this is our well guy.
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This is the well guy.
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I would like a little more water pressure.
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We have our own well.
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I know how it works and I know
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where the thing is buried.
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You know that the canister.
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Is there anything I can do to up
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the water pressure?
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Do I have to have that thing dug
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up in a new one?
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Put it to be put a pump in.
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You pump it up to a tower outside
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your house.
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You build a tower.
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But we have an eight.
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I should get it in before the HOA
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kicks off.
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Yeah.
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Get that tower up.
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Put some ham antennas in there.
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Curry farm on the tower.
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Put some lettering on there.
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And one of those windmills with a vein
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with one of those metallic windmills.
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Pumping.
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Yeah, it'll do the pumping.
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That's right.
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Yeah, that's a good idea.
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A little wind will pump it all up
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to the tower.
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And then the tower will provide the pressure.
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And on the tower, it's put petticoat junction.
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That'll be even funny.
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Yeah, well, well, yeah, you could do that,
2:11:25
too.
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Haas services.
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And put some dresses hanging on the thing.
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Any no agenda producers welcome to contact me
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with well questions and producers in the northern
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Illinois area can get a free service call.
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Contact information is down below.
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Currently doing some research on the new fuel
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pumps out in the wild that play ads
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all the time while buying gas or diesel.
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Interested in that.
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We need to report the fuel distributor.
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I got you.
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I use got new pumps.
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And for a while, the ads were all
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flu shot ads.
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Well, it's called remnant inventory.
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More will follow when it becomes available.
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Do have a tip of the day if
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Yeah, Haas.
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We're glad to hear from you.
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This storm will arrest you.
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Some well-deserved and overdue karma donation paying
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Gee, that's spelled G H E E.
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Love that number.
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Last time I donated, he says Adam was
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phone.
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Holy crap.
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So it's been a while.
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Yeah, man.
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When did the Windows phone get discontinued?
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Ten years ago.
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It's been a long time.
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What was the name of that phone?
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Windows.
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Well, 2007 is when it was pretty much
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wiped out.
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What was it called a while back?
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What was it called again?
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The Windows.
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Was it just Windows phone?
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Doesn't sound right.
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Yeah, Windows phone.
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It was called something.
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It's been a while.
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Long past due for another donation.
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Appreciate it much.
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And there we have Jackie Green, our guitarist.
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Jackie Green, the famous guitarist in Orangevale, California.
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Another musician that listens to the show.
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No jingles, just love and God bless y
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Oh, God bless you too, brother.
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Three thirty three thirty three.
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Even though I've been donating thirty three dollars
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and thirty three cents since Adam's first Rogan
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appearance, the sad puppy got to me.
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I'm well past knighthood, so please deduce me.
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You've been deduced.
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And I'd like to be knighted, Sir John
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of the Techni Basin.
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I'd like a ribeye and Malbec at the
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roundtable.
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It has been ordered.
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Thanks, Adam, for coming up with a possible
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identity for the they in all my conspiracy
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theories.
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Yes, the North Sea Nexus.
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Thank you, John.
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See at the roundtable.
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Janet Giles or Giles or Giles, G.I
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.L.L.E.S. It's San Marcos, Texas,
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which is just where you are.
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Three thirty three.
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She's got no note that I can find.
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And so we have to give her a
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double up.
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Karma on the way.
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You've got.
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Karma.
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And there's three hundred dollars coming to us
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from the Indy Noah gender raffle.
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We do have a meet up report.
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That's Greenwood, Indiana.
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And it's a switcheroo.
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First Sir David Killian.
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This is instant night.
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Sir David Killian actually sent a note at
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the end of this email back in twenty
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seventeen, but it was never read on the
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I sent in one thousand dollars back in
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episode four.
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Ninety eight.
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Obey the giant voice system.
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I looked it up on no agenda that
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John might remember that I was always that
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I always sent in bill paychecks with no
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note, but something in the memo.
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Do you remember this?
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Let's see.
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That was 15 years ago.
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No.
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After that, I would send in three three
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three dot thirty three every quarter for several
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years.
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So I'm at least four times night or
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a baron if the peerage committee agrees.
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I have heard nothing.
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So it sounds fine to me.
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There's your peerage committee.
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I would like to be called Baron David
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Killian of the Illinois Prairie.
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Please play Donald Trump.
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Don't just don't trust China.
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They're eating the dogs and Trump Trump.
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He's the president.
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Yes, I've actually found that one.
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I've labeled it properly this time.
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the other attendees.
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the Greenwood Fort Wayne, Indiana meetup organizer, Shannon,
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Shannon for a great meetup as well.
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Soon to be Baron David Killian of the
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Illinois Prairie.
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They're eating the dogs.
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The president.
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There you go.
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That's it.
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Then we drop down to so one loan
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Our formula is this.
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We go out.
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We hit people in the mouth.
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They're eating the dogs.
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They shut up slave.
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Shut up.
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That was pretty funny.
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John Stewart.
2:18:22
I don't have a clip.
2:18:24
I should probably get a clip from it.
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He's like he doesn't understand why Trump hasn't
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gone after him yet.
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Hey, man, come after me.
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I mean, man, I'm being ignored over here
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on Comedy Central Mondays.
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Yes, I need the attention.
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Come on, Trump.
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You hate me.
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What happened?
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You don't hate me anymore.
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It's no good.
2:18:50
I need one of those comeback shows like
2:18:52
Jimmy Kimmel had.
2:18:54
Please.
2:18:56
Pathetic.
2:18:57
That is that's pretty pathetic.
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Very pathetic.
2:19:00
As if.
2:19:01
Yeah, right.
2:19:02
I mean, the networks are just dying with
2:19:04
these late night shows and they're not making
2:19:06
any money.
2:19:07
They're high budget.
2:19:08
Hundreds of people working there and they're trying
2:19:10
to get rid of him.
2:19:11
So let's blame Trump.
2:19:13
Yeah, and even that backfired.
2:19:15
Yeah, that didn't even work.
2:19:16
So Kimmel pulled a stunt and ended up
2:19:19
still on the air.
2:19:21
And the Disney guys have got to be
2:19:22
shaking their heads saying, what do we have
2:19:24
to do to get rid of this guy
2:19:26
and do something that makes us some money?
2:19:28
Yeah, maybe he should be suicided by Israel.
2:19:32
There you go.
2:19:35
Give Israel a call.
2:19:38
Call Mossad 1-800-MOSAAD.
2:19:43
Hey, this story, and maybe I'm wrong, but
2:19:48
if I recall, isn't Chevron leaving California?
2:19:53
Was it Chevron?
2:19:57
I didn't say that.
2:19:58
No, I'm asking.
2:20:01
No, they're closing the Richmond refinery and the
2:20:07
refinery that got itself in trouble is the
2:20:12
El Segundo refinery, the big boy down in
2:20:15
Southern California.
2:20:16
Wouldn't that wouldn't that make for a perfect
2:20:18
withdrawal from California altogether?
2:20:20
Yeah, well, yeah, but it didn't really destroy
2:20:23
the refinery.
2:20:24
It just made a mess.
2:20:25
Well, if you listen to this report overnight,
2:20:27
a massive explosion at a Chevron refinery, sending
2:20:30
a massive fireball into the night sky.
2:20:33
Firefighters rushing to the scene in El Segundo,
2:20:36
California around 930 last night, trying to tackle
2:20:39
that gigantic blaze.
2:20:41
Several fires burning within the facility.
2:20:43
Yeah, we have heavy flames showing from the
2:20:46
refinery.
2:20:46
I'll need a truck company with a massive
2:20:48
frame to respond to this.
2:20:51
Towering flames and billowing smoke turning the night
2:20:53
sky red.
2:20:56
The inferno could be seen for miles.
2:20:58
That blast so strong, residents say they thought
2:21:00
it was an earthquake or a plane crash.
2:21:03
That was terrible explosion.
2:21:05
Very loud terrible house like more than any
2:21:08
earthquake ever before.
2:21:09
Terrible control for sure.
2:21:11
And we didn't know what was going to
2:21:13
happen next.
2:21:14
Those residents were told to stay indoors and
2:21:16
shelter in place after concerns about the air
2:21:19
quality.
2:21:20
There are several massive flames coming from the
2:21:22
refinery.
2:21:23
That right there appears to be the epicenter
2:21:25
of this explosion that occurred.
2:21:28
At times, it seemed like the fire was
2:21:30
under control and then it would flare back
2:21:32
up again.
2:21:33
Smoke traveling to nearby LAX, blanketing the planes
2:21:37
on the tarmac.
2:21:38
That oil refinery is the largest on the
2:21:40
West Coast, spanning two square miles.
2:21:43
It supplies more than 40 percent of the
2:21:45
jet fuel and more than 20 percent of
2:21:47
the motor vehicle fuel for Southern California.
2:21:49
Not yet clear what caused this explosion, but
2:21:52
no injuries have been reported.
2:21:54
I'm just saying if I wanted to get
2:21:55
out of California altogether and with the big
2:21:58
F.U. Like, oh, our plant blew up.
2:22:03
Get some insurance coverage.
2:22:07
Yeah, it's probably not a bad idea.
2:22:09
Just thinking.
2:22:10
It's a concept.
2:22:12
And the property is worth a lot of
2:22:14
money.
2:22:15
You could resell it.
2:22:17
You'd have to do a cleanup first.
2:22:19
Take a while, especially after years and years
2:22:22
of making leaded fuel.
2:22:24
California Riviera, baby.
2:22:26
Right there.
2:22:27
It's beautiful.
2:22:28
It's a nice spot.
2:22:29
Yeah.
2:22:30
I just thought that to be rather suspicious.
2:22:35
Yeah, this happened before there, though.
2:22:36
Suspicious.
2:22:37
They have some maintenance.
2:22:39
Chevron's always been sloppy.
2:22:41
Here's my story about the maintenance at these
2:22:44
places.
2:22:45
So I worked at these refineries and I
2:22:47
was an inspector at Chevron in Richmond, but
2:22:49
I worked at the Union Oil refinery and
2:22:52
there used to be this big thing before
2:22:53
it was taken over by the cheapies that
2:22:56
own it now.
2:22:56
When Union Oil had it, they used to
2:22:59
paint their tanks all these pastel colors.
2:23:02
It was a very pretty sight when you
2:23:03
drove through it.
2:23:04
Did you see that when you landed at
2:23:05
LAX?
2:23:06
Was that a different place?
2:23:07
No, we're talking about up here.
2:23:09
Oh, OK.
2:23:10
And it's relating to Chevron to talk about
2:23:12
their fact that they're cheap with their maintenance.
2:23:16
Yeah.
2:23:17
This is a roundabout story.
2:23:18
I don't have to tell it.
2:23:19
Yeah, you do.
2:23:20
So they used to paint their tanks.
2:23:22
And so when I started as an inspector
2:23:24
at Chevron, their tanks were all rust buckets.
2:23:27
They were just looked terrible.
2:23:29
It was an embarrassment when you looked at
2:23:31
it.
2:23:31
My God, this place is a wreck because
2:23:33
the tanks were all rusting and falling apart.
2:23:36
So I talked to one of the managers
2:23:38
about this and compared to the Union place
2:23:40
where they painted the tanks beautiful pastel colors
2:23:42
and they kept painting them and maintaining them.
2:23:45
And he said there was a cost analysis
2:23:48
that Chevron did that showed that, yes, you
2:23:51
can the tanks will stay in place a
2:23:54
longer time.
2:23:55
But the cost of maintaining them with the
2:23:57
paint actually is more expensive than letting them
2:24:01
rust, fall apart and rebuilding a new tank.
2:24:04
That sounds like the American way.
2:24:06
The American way.
2:24:08
And so and so then over time, what
2:24:11
was the irony of the whole thing was
2:24:13
that Chevron, because they were getting so much
2:24:15
grief for these ugly looking rust that rusted
2:24:18
out tanks had the perfect solution.
2:24:22
Instead of painting the tanks white and letting
2:24:24
them rust, they painted them rust colored.
2:24:30
I have to blend in.
2:24:32
It was genius.
2:24:34
Oh, that's great.
2:24:37
I'm glad you told that story.
2:24:38
That was worth it.
2:24:39
They're very pretty.
2:24:40
The rust colored tanks are really pretty.
2:24:42
So it's just like, OK, well, that works.
2:24:44
I mean, they blow up, but otherwise, well,
2:24:46
they rust out and leak and it's a
2:24:49
mess.
2:24:49
Oh, that's good.
2:24:52
That was well worth the well worth it.
2:24:54
I like that.
2:24:57
You got some other errant stuff here.
2:25:00
I got to talk about COVID, the bullcrap
2:25:03
long COVID clip.
2:25:04
Oh, let's do Diddy.
2:25:05
Let's do Diddy.
2:25:07
That's just the one.
2:25:08
Yeah, that's just a summary of what happened
2:25:09
with Diddy.
2:25:10
Sean Combs has been sentenced to more than
2:25:16
four years in prison after a lengthy hearing
2:25:19
in Manhattan yesterday.
2:25:21
The rapper, producer and businessman was convicted in
2:25:24
July on two prostitution related charges.
2:25:28
Khloe Malas has covered the Combs trial for
2:25:30
NBC News.
2:25:31
She joins us from an airport now.
2:25:34
Thanks for being with us.
2:25:35
Thanks for having me.
2:25:36
Good morning.
2:25:37
He was acquitted of the most serious charges,
2:25:39
sex trafficking and racketeering.
2:25:41
What are the two charges of which he's
2:25:42
now been found guilty?
2:25:44
Those are two counts of something called the
2:25:46
Mann Act.
2:25:46
It's transportation to engage in prostitution, and he
2:25:50
was found guilty by the jury over the
2:25:53
summer of those two counts.
2:25:55
But like you said, he was acquitted of
2:25:57
the more serious charges, which he faced a
2:26:00
life in prison sentence if convicted on those.
2:26:03
Well, tell us more about this sentence of
2:26:05
about four years, because the judge could have
2:26:09
handed down something lengthier, couldn't he?
2:26:11
So the judge could have given Combs up
2:26:13
to 10 years on each count of the
2:26:16
Mann Act, which means he could have faced
2:26:18
up to 20 years in federal prison.
2:26:21
The judge giving him four years and two
2:26:23
months is actually quite a surprise because it
2:26:27
is less than what the probation department recommended,
2:26:29
which was between five and seven years.
2:26:32
Now, it is not what Combs' legal team
2:26:35
wanted, which was 14 months.
2:26:36
I actually spoke to one of his attorneys,
2:26:39
Brian Steele, last night outside of the courthouse
2:26:43
following the judge's decision, and they said that
2:26:45
they were very disappointed in this and that
2:26:48
all they want is Combs to come home
2:26:50
and that they plan to appeal.
2:26:52
We certainly heard a lot from Sean Combs'
2:26:56
alleged victims during the trial.
2:26:59
How did they receive news of the sentence?
2:27:01
One of the first individuals to react to
2:27:03
the news of Combs' sentence was Cassie Ventura,
2:27:07
his longtime girlfriend, who was a key witness
2:27:10
in this trial.
2:27:11
And in a statement through her attorney, she
2:27:13
says that nothing can undo this trauma.
2:27:16
But basically, this is a step in the
2:27:18
right direction, that this shows the serious nature
2:27:21
of his crimes.
2:27:24
So they need to get this guy back
2:27:26
doing those beats.
2:27:27
You know, yeah, bitches, that's right.
2:27:29
You got to get some beats going on
2:27:31
to PSYOP the kids.
2:27:32
This pisses me off, actually.
2:27:35
Why?
2:27:35
My friend, the ER doctor who worked through
2:27:38
COVID as an ER doctor, who got PSYOP
2:27:42
during COVID into a Medicare scam, honeypotted.
2:27:46
Yeah, your guy, the guy there.
2:27:47
Yeah, honeypotted by the Justice Department itself, pretending
2:27:51
to be patients.
2:27:52
This guy was an ER doctor, not sophisticated
2:27:54
in scams.
2:27:56
He's serving 10 years for like a couple
2:28:01
hundred thousand dollars over several years, which he
2:28:05
legitimately did not, had no way of knowing
2:28:08
it was a scam.
2:28:09
And this guy walks with four.
2:28:12
This, this is dumb.
2:28:15
Yeah, I guess you, I think you're right.
2:28:18
I mean, that bothers me.
2:28:20
That bothers me.
2:28:21
I'm going to go visit him again in
2:28:23
November.
2:28:23
Talk to my Metallica boys.
2:28:25
They're the guards.
2:28:26
Hey boys, I'm coming.
2:28:28
So there is a, I have a series
2:28:31
of clips from, I think it's PBS.
2:28:35
I'm not sure, but it's about long COVID
2:28:38
and it's a bunch of BS, it seems
2:28:40
to me.
2:28:41
Okay.
2:28:42
And it finishes with what I call the
2:28:44
crock.
2:28:47
Long COVID.
2:28:47
So long COVID, let's just establish whatever you
2:28:50
think.
2:28:50
And by the way, you don't have to
2:28:51
email me because I guess whenever we talk
2:28:54
about long COVID, people tell me it's real.
2:28:57
And I'm not saying that it's not real,
2:28:59
that you don't feel something and you feel
2:29:01
bad or you have something, but calling it
2:29:03
long COVID is bullcrap.
2:29:06
It's a cop-out.
2:29:09
Well, it keeps, I believe after listening to
2:29:11
this, these clips and listening about log and
2:29:14
COVID over the five years, I believe it
2:29:20
to be part of a effort to keep
2:29:22
the word COVID in play so you can
2:29:24
sell more vaxxers, especially the new super spike
2:29:28
or whatever it's called.
2:29:30
Moderna's big spike.
2:29:32
A lot of people have chronic fatigue disease.
2:29:34
That's real.
2:29:36
But even one of the guys here who
2:29:40
goes to our church, he's in his late
2:29:43
forties, I think.
2:29:46
Maybe 50.
2:29:47
And he was diagnosed with, oh, it's long
2:29:50
COVID.
2:29:50
But really he had a heart arrhythmia, you
2:29:54
know?
2:29:54
And so it's like, just say long COVID
2:29:57
for everything.
2:29:57
Yeah, the COVID triggered it, probably.
2:29:59
Maybe.
2:30:00
I mean, or the vax, it triggered it.
2:30:01
No, no, no, not vax, not vax.
2:30:04
Cookies, not vax.
2:30:05
But did he ever have COVID?
2:30:09
Well, you know, a lot of people here
2:30:11
test.
2:30:12
So who knows?
2:30:13
Oh, I have COVID.
2:30:15
So I don't know.
2:30:16
Okay, well.
2:30:17
Did he think he had COVID?
2:30:18
Yeah, for sure.
2:30:21
So here we go with the long COVID
2:30:23
BS.
2:30:24
And the thing is, it's two things, keeping
2:30:25
COVID in the public brain and then also
2:30:30
money.
2:30:31
Yes.
2:30:31
It's been more than two years since the
2:30:33
pandemic ended, but millions of Americans are still
2:30:37
living with long COVID.
2:30:39
That's a catch-all term for COVID symptoms
2:30:41
lasting at least three months after testing positive.
2:30:43
Symptoms can vary from person to person, but
2:30:46
they range from mild to severe to physically
2:30:49
disabling.
2:30:50
Recently, Health Secretary Robert F.
2:30:52
Kennedy, Jr. kicked off new efforts to address
2:30:55
long COVID with a roundtable discussion with doctors,
2:30:58
researchers, and patient advocates.
2:31:00
In the past, the response to epidemics of
2:31:04
this kind has been to pump a lot
2:31:08
of money into ivory tower science to try
2:31:10
to solve the problem.
2:31:11
We've already put $1.5 billion into NIH
2:31:15
to solve long COVID, and we've got literally
2:31:18
nothing from it.
2:31:20
Ali Rogin spoke to two members of the
2:31:22
long COVID community.
2:31:24
Dr. Michael Peluso, a physician and researcher at
2:31:27
UC San Francisco, who attended that roundtable meeting,
2:31:30
and Megan Stone, the executive director of the
2:31:33
long COVID campaign.
2:31:35
So can I get the zip code for
2:31:37
the long COVID community?
2:31:38
Yeah, the long COVID community.
2:31:41
It's just south of you.
2:31:43
Yeah, community.
2:31:45
All right.
2:31:47
All right, go on.
2:31:48
Michael and Megan, thank you both so much
2:31:50
for joining us.
2:31:51
Michael, first to you, we just heard Secretary
2:31:53
Kennedy say that there's been nothing to show
2:31:55
for HHS's investment so far in long COVID
2:31:59
research.
2:32:00
What do you say to that?
2:32:01
Well, I think many of us agree that
2:32:03
progress has really been too slow.
2:32:06
There are a lot of patients really suffering.
2:32:10
A lot of disability, a huge economic cost.
2:32:14
At the same time, there's a lot of
2:32:17
commitment on the part of clinicians caring for
2:32:20
patients with long COVID, researchers really trying to
2:32:23
figure out the answers for these patients.
2:32:26
What I think we need, and what I
2:32:27
hope that this roundtable will be the beginning
2:32:30
of, is a really clear, both a short
2:32:33
-term plan and a long-term plan for
2:32:35
figuring this out.
2:32:36
We need a broader, organized strategy.
2:32:39
What would make up, Michael, sticking with you,
2:32:43
that long and short-term plan in order
2:32:46
to make this strategy work?
2:32:47
What's needed?
2:32:49
There are actually three specific things that I
2:32:51
advocated for at this meeting, and I think
2:32:53
that there was broad agreement on these things.
2:32:56
The first is real investment, real investment, real
2:33:00
investment in a diagnostics and biomarker program, both
2:33:05
to help people get a diagnosis of long
2:33:08
COVID in the clinic, but also to help
2:33:11
us identify individuals who may benefit from a
2:33:15
specific treatment strategy or for participation in a
2:33:19
specific clinical trial.
2:33:21
The second thing that we really need is
2:33:23
a rapid scale up of the number of
2:33:26
clinical trials that are happening.
2:33:29
We've seen some improvements, some increase in the
2:33:31
number of clinical trials over the last couple
2:33:33
of years, but I'd like to see a
2:33:36
dozen more clinical trials right now testing all
2:33:39
of the different possible leads for what might
2:33:42
cause long COVID and how we might help
2:33:44
people feel better.
2:33:46
Translation, we don't really know what it is
2:33:48
either.
2:33:49
It's just, it's pathetic.
2:33:52
But give me some money and I can
2:33:54
tell you what it is.
2:33:55
Money, money, money.
2:33:55
Money, money, money.
2:33:56
And then the third thing that we really
2:33:57
need to help that happen is we need
2:34:00
the pharmaceutical industry to get off the sidelines
2:34:03
and to really commit to participating in clinical
2:34:07
trials, putting their drugs up for testing, investing
2:34:11
deeply in this problem so that we can
2:34:14
get answers for people who are really debilitated
2:34:17
from this condition.
2:34:18
Megan, as somebody who is a patient and
2:34:20
an advocate, how are you feeling about the
2:34:23
commitments that have been announced recently?
2:34:25
Well, right now today, there's about 20 million
2:34:27
Americans just like me who are living with
2:34:29
long COVID and many of us were in
2:34:31
the prime of our careers and lives and
2:34:33
now are disabled and chronically ill.
2:34:36
And so the administration's announcements that Secretary Kennedy
2:34:39
made were welcome.
2:34:41
It was really good to see the HHS
2:34:42
secretary having a high-level meeting, bringing together
2:34:45
all the parts of government that we really
2:34:47
need to work together to find a solution.
2:34:49
That's really what we need to see so
2:34:52
that parents like myself can get back to
2:34:54
volunteering at our kids' schools.
2:34:55
We can go back to our workplaces and
2:34:57
patients can finally get the tests and the
2:34:59
treatments that we've been waiting over five years
2:35:01
for now.
2:35:03
I'm just going to guess that your final
2:35:06
clip should not be three minutes and 10
2:35:08
seconds.
2:35:10
Let me take a look.
2:35:12
Probably not.
2:35:13
Generally speaking, I can explain how that happens
2:35:18
once in a while, but I'm not going
2:35:19
to.
2:35:20
No, why bother?
2:35:21
I'll tell you when to cut it off.
2:35:23
It'll be around, you know, we'll see.
2:35:26
Buck 20.
2:35:27
Megan, you've been working on these things and
2:35:29
advocating for your community for these five years.
2:35:32
Based on your experience, what are your hopes
2:35:34
for what happens next?
2:35:36
And also, where do your concerns lie?
2:35:39
By the way, this is so scripted.
2:35:41
I mean, you can hear an NPR show
2:35:44
or it's PBS scripted.
2:35:46
By the way, when I play the boing,
2:35:48
it'll be over.
2:35:49
Surprise.
2:35:50
Years.
2:35:51
Based on your experience, what are your hopes
2:35:53
for what happens next?
2:35:55
And also, where do your concerns lie?
2:35:58
Like many patients, the Long COVID campaign has
2:36:00
been calling for biomarkers so that we can
2:36:03
do research and figure out if treatments are
2:36:06
going to work and hopefully get a test
2:36:07
so that people in the United States, Americans
2:36:09
who are disabled, can more easily qualify for
2:36:12
disability, that we can see insurance coverage.
2:36:15
We really want to see the FDA move
2:36:17
more quickly.
2:36:17
And we're hoping with these announcements from the
2:36:20
administration that we'll see them more rapidly approve
2:36:22
clinical trials with the endpoints that we need
2:36:24
and then work together on approving treatments and
2:36:27
therapies that families and Americans living with Long
2:36:31
COVID urgently need.
2:36:32
We didn't see the progress we needed under
2:36:34
the Biden administration.
2:36:36
And I know so many patients are ready
2:36:37
to work with this administration in an earnest
2:36:39
way to actually solve this problem.
2:36:41
And for both of you, COVID-19 and
2:36:44
Long COVID are things that many Americans have
2:36:48
quite simply moved on from.
2:36:51
And yet there are many, many more people
2:36:53
who are living with this every single day.
2:36:55
First to you, Michael, what do you want
2:36:57
people who haven't been affected by Long COVID
2:37:00
to know about this community?
2:37:02
I think it's really important that people understand
2:37:04
that this can often be an invisible disease
2:37:07
and that there are a lot of people
2:37:08
really suffering and really debilitated by it.
2:37:10
And, you know, I think that the investment
2:37:14
in addressing this problem is likely to have
2:37:19
benefits that extend beyond this problem.
2:37:23
Long COVID is a really, really challenging disease
2:37:25
to study, to research, to treat, and it'll
2:37:28
be a big problem to solve.
2:37:30
But I think that if we have the
2:37:32
resources and the strategy and the long-term
2:37:34
plan to do it, this should be a
2:37:37
problem that we can solve.
2:37:38
And Megan?
2:37:40
Americans may feel like the pandemic's over or
2:37:43
that COVID is in the rearview mirror, but
2:37:45
even in just the last few months, we
2:37:47
saw the announcement that Long COVID is now
2:37:50
the most common childhood illness in the United
2:37:52
States.
2:37:52
It even surpassed asthma.
2:37:54
So it's still...
2:37:57
What?
2:37:58
It surpassed asthma?
2:38:01
The most common childhood disease in America is
2:38:05
now Long COVID.
2:38:08
When did that happen?
2:38:10
When you're a kid, you can't even get
2:38:12
COVID.
2:38:12
It's almost impossible, but somehow it's become the
2:38:15
number one childhood disease, surpassing asthma.
2:38:20
According to these jermokes, I'd like to see
2:38:24
some data on that.
2:38:27
Give me your Taylor Swift phony story.
2:38:30
What is this Taylor Swift?
2:38:31
Okay, this is...
2:38:34
You know, they have to talk about Taylor
2:38:36
Swift on NPR.
2:38:38
Of course!
2:38:38
Because it's Taylor Swift.
2:38:41
But this is kind of...
2:38:42
I consider this, even though they kind of
2:38:44
couch it as like a positive thing, she's
2:38:46
a good marketing woman and all this and
2:38:48
that.
2:38:49
But this to me just says she's a
2:38:51
big phony.
2:38:52
Taylor Swift talks about her musical and personal
2:38:55
style in eras.
2:38:57
Researchers say those eras have also influenced how
2:39:00
she speaks.
2:39:01
Matthew Wynn of the University of Minnesota co
2:39:03
-authored a study that analyzed her speech from
2:39:06
2008 to 2019.
2:39:07
As a person moves to different cities and
2:39:10
different communities, they have motivation to change how
2:39:13
they speak.
2:39:14
While most people don't record themselves from location
2:39:17
to location, Swift's career allowed for that.
2:39:19
We have this timeline of her voice throughout
2:39:21
the years.
2:39:22
Swift was raised in Pennsylvania, then moved to
2:39:25
Nashville.
2:39:26
Wynn analyzed this clip of Swift speaking from
2:39:29
her time in Nashville.
2:39:31
My role models in country music are Shania
2:39:34
Twain, Faith Hill, Dixie Chicks.
2:39:35
Part of what it means to be a
2:39:37
country musician is to speak with that southern
2:39:40
accent.
2:39:41
And just to make sure that she was
2:39:42
welcomed into that community, maybe that was something
2:39:44
that helped that process.
2:39:46
When Swift released Red in 2012, her speech
2:39:49
seemed to change.
2:39:50
A return to her Pennsylvania accent seemed evident
2:39:52
in a live webcast in 2013.
2:39:55
A huge inspiration from my imagination.
2:39:57
She was exiting country music and entering pop
2:40:00
music, where a southern accent wouldn't have necessarily
2:40:03
fit in as well.
2:40:04
Then, after she moved to New York, the
2:40:07
pitch of her voice dropped, as in this
2:40:09
2019 interview with CBS Sunday Morning.
2:40:12
And he has 300 million reasons to conveniently
2:40:14
forget those conversations.
2:40:16
Wynn explains.
2:40:17
This was a time when she was being
2:40:19
much more vocal about social and political issues
2:40:22
and the autonomy of musicians over their own
2:40:24
work.
2:40:25
And so I think she did what a
2:40:27
lot of people do.
2:40:28
She took those issues very seriously.
2:40:30
She started speaking with a lower voice.
2:40:33
This was what university now?
2:40:37
Oh, I don't know.
2:40:38
Pennsylvania or something.
2:40:39
Taylor Swift talks about her musical and personal
2:40:41
style in eras.
2:40:43
Researchers say those eras have also influenced how
2:40:46
she speaks.
2:40:47
Matthew Wynn of the University of Minnesota, Co
2:40:50
-op, Minnesota.
2:40:51
If you go to the University of Minnesota,
2:40:53
drop out immediately.
2:40:55
They are misusing your tuition.
2:40:58
Well, this is like Harvard and having that,
2:41:00
that, that, that drag queen give a course
2:41:04
in.
2:41:05
In drag queenery.
2:41:07
Oh, what was the name?
2:41:08
She's got this crazy name.
2:41:10
Yeah, something that I guarantee that at least
2:41:13
five people in the control room will come
2:41:15
up with her name.
2:41:17
And it's a course in, it's just a
2:41:20
crazy nutball course.
2:41:21
And it's Harvard.
2:41:24
There it is.
2:41:25
There's coming.
2:41:26
Now I'm waiting for it.
2:41:30
I'm looking in there.
2:41:31
Did we have a clip?
2:41:32
No, I don't have a clip of that.
2:41:34
It's dumb.
2:41:34
So that's dumber than what I just played.
2:41:37
All right.
2:41:37
What you do have is you have a
2:41:39
podcast clip.
2:41:40
Let's end on a podcast clip.
2:41:42
I have a podcast clip podcast about Bucky's
2:41:45
noteworthy.
2:41:46
Oh, yeah, this is noteworthy.
2:41:49
That's why it's an afterthought of the noteworthy,
2:41:52
because I have a commentary about this clip.
2:41:54
This is about a podcast coming out.
2:41:56
That's going to spend an hour or two
2:41:58
talking about Bucky's.
2:41:59
All right.
2:42:00
All town in Southern Colorado.
2:42:02
There's a proposal to build a Bucky's, a
2:42:05
massive convenience store slash gas station known for
2:42:09
its beaver mascot and endless gas pumps.
2:42:12
The proposal has divided neighbors and cost officials
2:42:15
their jobs.
2:42:16
It's just all this wild human nature that
2:42:21
is erupted over a gas station and beaver
2:42:27
nuggets.
2:42:28
Why don't you just sit there and shut
2:42:30
your mouth and listen to what you say?
2:42:35
I'm Ben to Brooklyn on this episode of
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Purplish from CPR News.
2:42:40
How plans for a Bucky's travel plaza sparked
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a larger than life controversy.
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Hit the button below now to start listening.
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OK, you're noteworthy.
2:42:50
Mimi, of course, is running for office in
2:42:52
the Port Angeles area and runs into this
2:42:54
all the time, which is that the council
2:42:57
and the county commissioners and everybody in between,
2:43:00
you can present them with petitions.
2:43:02
You can have the places packed with people
2:43:05
that tell them to do this and that.
2:43:06
You see it in school boards.
2:43:08
You see it on YouTube videos.
2:43:10
And they refuse to act.
2:43:12
These local officials, for some reason, over the
2:43:15
last few decades, have not become responsive.
2:43:18
They've become unresponsive to the local communities.
2:43:22
And this Bucky's story, I'm sure, is exactly
2:43:24
the same.
2:43:24
This is completely out of control.
2:43:26
They've gotten something into their heads where they
2:43:29
don't have to listen to the public anymore.
2:43:32
Well, why would they?
2:43:33
That's why me, me, me, me, me, me,
2:43:35
me, me, me, me, for city council.
2:43:39
Thank you, Digitup.
2:43:40
The troll room is on the ball.
2:43:43
Headline, Harvard hires drag queen as visiting professor
2:43:47
in gender and sexuality studies.
2:43:49
New courses include Rue Politics, Drag Race and
2:43:54
Desire, and Queer Ethnography.
2:43:57
The name of the drag queen?
2:43:59
You ready?
2:44:02
Lahore Vajistan.
2:44:07
Yeah, a pun.
2:44:08
I'm gonna show my soul by donating to
2:44:11
No Agenda.
2:44:11
Imagine all the people who could do that.
2:44:14
Oh, yeah, that'd be fab.
2:44:15
Yeah, on No Agenda, in the morning.
2:44:21
We've got some pretty good meet-up reports
2:44:23
coming.
2:44:24
The one from Indiana.
2:44:25
Always fun to hear the ones that Damon
2:44:27
Miller puts together for us.
2:44:29
John's tip of the day.
2:44:30
We got end-of-show mixes.
2:44:31
And right now, we will thank the rest
2:44:33
of our Value for Value supporters.
2:44:35
$50 for love.
2:44:36
Very short list because, yeah, very short list.
2:44:38
Only 24 people total donated today.
2:44:41
Wow.
2:44:41
Starting with John Robinet, $100, and Steve Brown,
2:44:45
$100, and then Matthew Gill in Raleigh, North
2:44:48
Carolina, $83.38. Kevin McLaughlin's already up at
2:44:54
the top there at $8,008.
2:44:56
He's the Arstuka Luna lover of America lover
2:44:58
of melons.
2:45:01
Darius Walker in Charleston, West Virginia, $74.14.
2:45:04
Les Tarkowski in Kingman, Arizona, $6,006.
2:45:07
Steve Banstra, $59.93. I'm not sure there's
2:45:13
some meaning to that.
2:45:14
Then we have Elizabeth Barish, I think, for
2:45:19
her husband.
2:45:19
This is a switcheroo for Jeff Barish, who
2:45:22
is going to be turning some age, I
2:45:26
think.
2:45:26
Of course, he's on the birthday list.
2:45:27
His birthday's on Saturday.
2:45:31
So there you go, $55.55. Probably $55.
2:45:34
That's my guess.
2:45:36
He's turning $55.
2:45:37
Brian Furley, $55.10. Sir Selverin in Silver
2:45:41
Spring, Maryland, $52.72. You know, I always
2:45:45
thought it was Silver Springs.
2:45:47
I always thought that, too.
2:45:49
Silver Springs, Maryland.
2:45:50
I've always said that.
2:45:51
But it always comes through as Silver Spring.
2:45:53
Maybe it's wrong.
2:45:55
Maybe it's wrong.
2:45:56
I don't know.
2:45:56
Wrong.
2:45:57
James Sheremetta, Nappanoag, New York, $50.
2:46:00
And these are all 50s, the last few.
2:46:02
And very few, I would say.
2:46:04
Chris Conacher in Anchorage, Alaska.
2:46:06
Alex Zavala in Kyle.
2:46:08
Kyle or Kyle?
2:46:09
The Nick You Dead.
2:46:10
The Nick Kyle.
2:46:11
The Nick You Dead.
2:46:12
Alex or Alex.
2:46:16
Kerry Jackson in Waterton, Tennessee.
2:46:19
Walker Phillips in San Rafael, California.
2:46:24
And last on a very, very, very, very,
2:46:27
very, very short list.
2:46:28
How short is it?
2:46:30
Very.
2:46:32
Troy Funderburke in Missoula, Montana.
2:46:38
I want to thank these folks for show
2:46:40
1805, which is a good show.
2:46:43
Yeah, I think we had fun.
2:46:45
And we delivered some value.
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If you'd like to return it, time, talent,
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or treasure, go to noagendasdonations.com.
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We also have a P.O. box.
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Oh, thank you, by the way.
2:46:54
Natalie Taylor, I got your salad dressing.
2:46:56
Did you get your salad dressing?
2:46:58
Yes, I did.
2:47:00
Have you tried said salad dressing?
2:47:01
Yes, I did.
2:47:02
What did you think?
2:47:04
Well, I think that it's a well-designed
2:47:08
salad dressing, except at least for my taste.
2:47:11
It's extremely salty.
2:47:13
I thought so, too.
2:47:14
Tina wouldn't use it, wouldn't try it.
2:47:16
It has seed oils in it.
2:47:18
She looked at the back right away.
2:47:19
What's seed oils?
2:47:19
I'm not going to try this.
2:47:23
Something to be said for that.
2:47:24
But we appreciate it, Natalie.
2:47:26
Thank you very much.
2:47:26
Much to be said, but okay.
2:47:28
Seed oils will kill you, man.
2:47:30
Seed oils!
2:47:31
There you go.
2:47:33
Go to noagendasdonations.com to support the show.
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We appreciate everything everybody does.
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Thanks to our executive and associate executive producer.
2:47:42
It's episode 1805.
2:47:43
You will be in the credits.
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And again, go to noagendadonations.com to help.
2:47:52
Here she is, Elizabeth Barrett, wishing her smoking
2:47:55
hot husband, Jeff, a very happy birthday.
2:47:58
He celebrated yesterday.
2:47:59
I guess we turned 55, didn't we?
2:48:01
And Kevin McKenna, happy birthday to his daughter,
2:48:04
Aniston.
2:48:04
She turns nine years old.
2:48:06
Happy birthday, Aniston.
2:48:07
From everybody here at the best podcast in
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the universe.
2:48:21
And there he is, one of our top
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executive producers for today, Sir David Killian.
2:48:26
He comes in as Baron David Killian of
2:48:28
the Illinois Prairie.
2:48:30
Thanks to his exceptional amount of donations, four
2:48:33
times night.
2:48:34
There you go.
2:48:35
We appreciate it.
2:48:36
You are now officially on the Peerage map.
2:48:38
And now we do have, uh, one secretary
2:48:41
general.
2:48:42
All hail to the secretary generals.
2:48:46
Cause they are the ones to be hailing.
2:48:49
All hail to the secretary generals.
2:48:53
On the No Agenda Show.
2:48:57
I really wish we could get a redo
2:48:58
of that jingle.
2:48:59
People kept telling me it's wrong.
2:49:00
I know, it should be secretaries general.
2:49:02
I know.
2:49:03
Hey, John Bigelow, thanks for your support today.
2:49:06
You become a secretary general, my friend.
2:49:10
And you gave us the name.
2:49:12
The name was...
2:49:15
Let me see.
2:49:17
Secretary gen- I'm sorry.
2:49:19
Not John Bigelow.
2:49:20
My mistake.
2:49:22
You named the wrong guy?
2:49:23
I named the wrong guy.
2:49:24
I'm sorry.
2:49:24
The wrong- It's, uh, Matthew Lomar.
2:49:27
That's who I meant.
2:49:28
I'm a little confused.
2:49:29
It's Bigelow.
2:49:30
Yeah, a little confused in the control room.
2:49:33
Matthew Lomar, congratulations.
2:49:35
You shall now firmly be known as secretary
2:49:37
general of Water Well Drillers.
2:49:41
Yes, all hail to the secretary general.
2:49:44
All hail to the secretary generals.
2:49:47
Cause they are the ones to be hailing.
2:49:51
All hail to the secretary generals.
2:49:55
On the No Agenda Show.
2:49:58
There, now we got Bigelow.
2:50:00
Bigelow becomes a knight today.
2:50:02
So get out your blade for, uh, John
2:50:04
Bigelow, if you wouldn't mind, please.
2:50:05
Got it.
2:50:07
Very nice.
2:50:08
Oh, that's a sharp one, too.
2:50:10
Hey, John Bigelow, pop up on the podium
2:50:12
here.
2:50:12
You, sir, are about to become knighted.
2:50:14
You will be a knight of the No
2:50:16
Agenda Roundtable.
2:50:17
Thanks to your support of the No Agenda
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Show and $1,000, I am very proud
2:50:21
to pronounce the KB as Sir John of
2:50:24
the Techni Basin.
2:50:25
For you, we've got hookers and blow, rent
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boys and chardonnay.
2:50:28
We got a ribeye and mullbeck.
2:50:30
That's what you really wanted.
2:50:31
Along with that, harlots and howled all redheads
2:50:33
and rise beers and blunts.
2:50:35
Cowgirls and coffin varnished Ruben S.
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Women and rosé, geishas and sake, vodka, vanilla,
2:50:40
bong hits and bourbon, sparkling cider and escorts,
2:50:43
ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pabulum.
2:50:45
And as always, we've got the mutton and
2:50:48
the meat here for you.
2:50:49
Congratulations, sir.
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You go to no agenda rings dot com.
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The same, of course, goes for our secretary
2:50:54
general, Sir David, Matthew Lomar.
2:50:57
Go to no agenda rings dot com.
2:50:59
That's where you can get your secretary general
2:51:01
information.
2:51:01
And for the rings, it's a beautiful signet
2:51:05
ring, so it gives you some wax to
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seal your important correspondence with a certificate of
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authenticity.
2:51:10
Just give us the place where we want
2:51:12
to send it to and your ring size.
2:51:13
There's a ring sizing guide on the website.
2:51:16
And welcome to the roundtable, Sir John of
2:51:18
the Techni Basin.
2:51:20
No agenda meetups.
2:51:25
Well, we had a couple of parties going
2:51:28
on in the past couple of days.
2:51:30
We have a meetup report.
2:51:31
Leo Bravo out there in Los Angeles.
2:51:34
They just they never quit.
2:51:35
The Los Angelinos, they just stay there, keep
2:51:37
meeting.
2:51:38
This is flight number 67 of the no
2:51:40
agenda.
2:51:40
Yo, yo, yo, it's Leo Bravo at meetup
2:51:43
number 67.
2:51:44
The crew has things to say.
2:51:47
This is Myra from Mocholo.
2:51:48
Come join us anytime after 11 a.m.
2:51:51
This is Eric reporting from downtown Los Angeles,
2:51:54
where there's nothing happening on the streets except
2:51:57
for Comic-Con going on across the street.
2:51:59
And we're here all dressed as furries, pawing
2:52:02
our Mexican food in the morning.
2:52:05
Oh, OK.
2:52:07
Now we go to Indiana.
2:52:09
Damon always puts together a great meetup report
2:52:11
because there's always a lot of people at
2:52:13
the indie meetups.
2:52:14
This is day Maria and Sir Mark.
2:52:16
We are so happy to be back in
2:52:18
Indiana with our family here.
2:52:19
It's amazing.
2:52:21
In the morning, this is Sir Rupert of
2:52:23
the Maple, and today was a hot meetup
2:52:25
due to climate change.
2:52:26
Gary here.
2:52:27
Sorry I've been gone for the last few
2:52:28
months, but my reprogramming for Spook has taken
2:52:30
a little longer than I thought.
2:52:31
Hey, this is Emily.
2:52:32
And if we keep saying four more years,
2:52:34
we essentially have y'all at least seven
2:52:36
months into the next administration.
2:52:38
So four more years.
2:52:39
Bruce here just drinking some beers with Emily
2:52:41
the Fed.
2:52:42
Nader from Indianapolis.
2:52:43
I'm here, should not have ate that whole
2:52:45
pizza, but it's still good to see Mark
2:52:47
and Maria.
2:52:47
In the morning, this is Matt.
2:52:49
Finally driven in from the wilds of Southeast
2:52:51
Indiana.
2:52:52
Only Mark and Maria could bring me back
2:52:53
from my ranch out in the woods.
2:52:55
Dame Trinity having a great time in Indy.
2:52:57
It is great to see Mark and Maria
2:52:59
back in the States.
2:53:00
In the morning, John and Adam.
2:53:01
Sir PBR Street Gang here from Fort Wayne.
2:53:04
Loving to see Mark and Maria back again.
2:53:06
This is Ted from Batesville, part of the
2:53:08
Walking Wounded.
2:53:08
Glad to see Mark and Maria back here.
2:53:10
This is Chris from Indianapolis.
2:53:12
Newbie.
2:53:13
Just came for the free wine.
2:53:14
There's free wine?
2:53:15
Oh, this is David, and I'm from Illinois.
2:53:17
My first meetup in Indy.
2:53:19
Glad to be here.
2:53:20
In the morning.
2:53:20
In the morning, Dame Swanee.
2:53:22
I'm next to Sir David, who just won
2:53:25
the raffle.
2:53:26
I didn't.
2:53:27
Sir Vinny here, and I'm sitting next to
2:53:28
the most fabulous Dame Swanee I could ever
2:53:31
imagine.
2:53:32
In the morning, John and Adam.
2:53:33
This is Nick.
2:53:34
There's a lot of pressure for me to
2:53:35
be funny, so I'm just going to say
2:53:36
Cash Patel's eyeballs.
2:53:38
Hey, this is Brady at the Blind Owl,
2:53:40
playing crowd control over these crazy folks.
2:53:42
Maybe some of you guys can get your
2:53:43
servers to partake a little bit.
2:53:45
In the morning.
2:53:47
See you in Valhalla.
2:53:50
Okay, wonderful.
2:53:51
Hey, there's a meetup taking place on Thursday.
2:53:54
It is the Dakota Tavern in Parker, Colorado
2:53:56
on the 9th.
2:53:57
That's Thursday.
2:53:58
Thirsty Thursday at Dakota Tavern.
2:54:00
Kicks off at 5.30 p.m. And
2:54:03
coming up, we've got the Johnson City, Texas
2:54:06
meetup on October 10th, followed by the Fredericksburg,
2:54:09
Texas meetup on October 11th.
2:54:11
Going to be a lot of No Agenda
2:54:13
superstars there.
2:54:14
I'm sure Sir Dirty Jersey Whore will be
2:54:16
there.
2:54:16
I think Sir Mark the Filmmaker is going
2:54:19
to be there.
2:54:20
Tina the Keeper will be there.
2:54:21
I'll be there at the same time.
2:54:23
October 11th, Garden City, Idaho meetup.
2:54:25
Charlotte, North Carolina on the 16th.
2:54:27
Colleyville, Texas on the 18th.
2:54:29
Fort Wayne, Indiana on the 18th.
2:54:31
Columbus, Ohio on the 18th.
2:54:32
Lansing, Michigan on the 19th.
2:54:34
Los Altos, California on the 25th.
2:54:37
Camp Hill, Pennsylvania on the 26th.
2:54:38
And Berlin, Deutschland.
2:54:40
This has to be some kind of illegal
2:54:42
move.
2:54:44
They're going to do a meetup and talk
2:54:45
about things.
2:54:46
That's October 27th.
2:54:47
Send us a report.
2:54:48
Light in the Netherlands on the 31st, going
2:54:50
into November.
2:54:51
Albany, California, get John out of the house
2:54:53
meetup on the 15th.
2:54:54
And January 3rd, we already have a meetup
2:54:57
on the book Santa Rosa, California.
2:54:59
Those are just a few of the No
2:55:00
Agenda meetups which you can find at noagendameetups
2:55:02
.com.
2:55:03
Go there because you will love these meetups.
2:55:07
Connection is protection.
2:55:08
You get it at the meetup.
2:55:09
The people who will be your first responders
2:55:11
in an emergency.
2:55:12
noagendameetups.com If you can't find one near
2:55:14
you, start one yourself.
2:55:15
Sometimes you want to go hang out with
2:55:18
all the nights and days.
2:55:22
You want to be where you won't be
2:55:24
triggered or held to blame.
2:55:27
You want to be where everybody feels the
2:55:30
same.
2:55:33
It's like a party.
2:55:35
Always like a party.
2:55:37
Guaranteed to delight.
2:55:39
Time for our ISO off.
2:55:41
ISO off, ISO off, ISO off, ISO off.
2:55:44
We both have two, I see.
2:55:45
Except one of yours is named Oso.
2:55:50
Your spelling mistakes are getting better with the
2:55:53
years.
2:55:54
They're funnier.
2:55:55
I actually thought that was a different podcast
2:55:57
clip you had.
2:55:58
Like Oso.
2:55:59
Oh, it's an ISO.
2:56:00
I see.
2:56:00
It's really short.
2:56:01
I got it.
2:56:01
Okay, I'll play mine.
2:56:02
Then we'll play yours.
2:56:03
See which one we choose for the end
2:56:04
of the show.
2:56:04
Here's my first.
2:56:07
Utterly breathtaking.
2:56:08
Non-AI and utterly breathtaking.
2:56:11
Or this one.
2:56:12
This is a big one.
2:56:14
All right.
2:56:15
What do you have?
2:56:19
Those are tough.
2:56:20
Yeah, thank you.
2:56:21
Well, I have a way.
2:56:22
I don't do AI.
2:56:23
I've got ISO hosts.
2:56:25
This show gets better with age.
2:56:27
Like the hosts.
2:56:29
Not AI at all.
2:56:31
Gee, you fooled me, John.
2:56:34
Yeah, the show gets better with age like
2:56:37
the hosts.
2:56:37
This show gets better with age like the
2:56:40
hosts.
2:56:41
Okay, speak for yourself.
2:56:45
And there's the one.
2:56:47
Best podcast.
2:56:48
Best podcast.
2:56:50
I can go with this one.
2:56:51
This show gets better with age like the
2:56:53
hosts.
2:56:53
I can go with that one.
2:56:54
Yeah, of course you can.
2:56:55
That's cute.
2:56:56
Of course I can.
2:56:56
Hey, everybody.
2:56:57
Here it is.
2:56:58
It's John's tip of the day.
2:57:10
I do this about six of these a
2:57:13
year, and this is a wine tip.
2:57:15
Oh, good.
2:57:16
We love a John C.
2:57:18
Dvorak wine.
2:57:19
It's a cheap wine that I have it
2:57:20
every so often.
2:57:21
And every time I have it, I say,
2:57:22
why don't I plug this wine?
2:57:25
It's interesting because I'll give you a little
2:57:28
backstory about some of these cheap California wines
2:57:31
that are done by Gallo.
2:57:34
And they bring out this fabulous wine that
2:57:37
the turning leaf was a good example.
2:57:39
If you can remember back that far, came
2:57:41
out as a Cabernet.
2:57:42
It was like 10 bucks, nine bucks.
2:57:45
Tastes like a $50 wine.
2:57:47
And then the next year tastes kind of
2:57:49
like a $20 wine.
2:57:51
And then the next year tastes like a
2:57:52
$5 wine.
2:57:53
And then they fold it, but they made
2:57:56
lots of money.
2:57:57
I bet they did.
2:57:58
So this is different.
2:58:00
These guys have yet to have dropped the
2:58:02
quality of this product.
2:58:04
This is a screwball wine that I think
2:58:06
came out of that.
2:58:06
This came out of a bunch of purchases.
2:58:09
I actually have a bottle here that Robert
2:58:12
Mondavi did before he died.
2:58:14
Oh, Robert.
2:58:16
Robert Mondavi.
2:58:17
This is a Robert Mondavi wine.
2:58:19
And he bought a bunch of California wineries
2:58:21
all over the place to use as estate
2:58:25
taxes.
2:58:25
So he could just dump the wineries and
2:58:27
the kids would still have the main winery.
2:58:29
But it turned out that the president changes
2:58:32
whatever happened.
2:58:33
He ended up with owning these places and
2:58:34
they changed the names of them.
2:58:36
And I don't remember which one this was
2:58:38
specifically, but it's one of the Valley wines
2:58:40
from San Joaquin Valley, I think.
2:58:42
But it's sold as Robert Mondavi.
2:58:45
And I'll tell you what it says on
2:58:47
the label.
2:58:47
And it's like nine bucks.
2:58:49
Maybe up to 12 some places.
2:58:52
Can I get it at Costco?
2:58:54
Costco will have it, but all kinds of
2:58:57
places have it.
2:58:58
They make a ton of it.
2:59:01
And it's a black label wine called Robert
2:59:03
Mondavi Private Selection.
2:59:06
Which is always a giveaway for what?
2:59:08
Come on, nine bucks, 10 bucks.
2:59:10
And it's a black label?
2:59:12
Isn't it always black?
2:59:12
It's a black label wine.
2:59:13
Isn't it always black label?
2:59:15
No, Robert Mondavi has a tan label.
2:59:18
Well, this always has a black label because
2:59:20
it's not really Robert Mondavi.
2:59:22
It's not an apple wine.
2:59:23
It's not made there either.
2:59:24
But it says Robert Mondavi.
2:59:26
It just says Robert Mondavi.
2:59:28
Robert Mondavi Private Selection.
2:59:31
Bourbon Barrel Aged Cabernet Sauvignon.
2:59:34
Ooh, that's very popular.
2:59:38
And this wine for a year, I've been
2:59:40
drinking this on and off for about five
2:59:42
years as a kind of just a quick
2:59:44
wine.
2:59:44
If you want to have a dinner, a
2:59:45
hamburger wine.
2:59:47
After breakfast.
2:59:47
After breakfast, hamburger wine is good for eggs.
2:59:51
Hamburger wine.
2:59:53
It's a total hamburger wine.
2:59:55
And it is just, it's got, for a
2:59:57
California wine, it's dark.
2:59:59
It's got some Cabernet character.
3:00:01
It's got a lot of oak and it's
3:00:03
a bourbon style oak.
3:00:04
If you don't like oak, don't get this
3:00:06
wine.
3:00:06
But if you like oaky wines, this is
3:00:08
a very well-made wine.
3:00:10
I'm going to see if H-E-B
3:00:12
has it.
3:00:12
I'll talk to Matt at H-E-B.
3:00:14
And I will tell him to push it.
3:00:16
I'll say, I'll tell him to put like
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one of those, you know.
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A sticker.
3:00:20
Put a sticker on it.
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John C.
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Dvorak Tip of the Day wine.
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I'm telling you, we should have those.
3:00:25
John C.
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Dvorak Tip of the Day wine.
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There it is.
3:00:27
Find all of John's tips at tipoftheday.net.
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What a good one.
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And sometimes, Adam.
3:00:40
Created by Dana Brunetti.
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Wow.
3:00:42
I always love it when you do a
3:00:44
good wine tip.
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Especially when they're cheap, which are most of
3:00:49
your wine tips, actually.
3:00:50
No, I try to keep them cheap.
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And they have to be readily available, too.
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I mean, you just can't have, you know,
3:00:55
something up sour.
3:00:56
I can't wait.
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I'm going to go to H-E-B
3:00:58
tomorrow and say, hey man, I need that
3:01:00
Robert Maldow, the private selection black label barrel.
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Bourbon barrel.
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Bourbon barrel age.
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Yes.
3:01:06
Yeah.
3:01:06
It's very popular here in Texas.
3:01:08
The bourbon barrel age, along with Texas heritage
3:01:11
wine, whatever that means.
3:01:15
Hey, we're going to end the show.
3:01:16
Mixes from B-dubs and Jeffrey Crocker.
3:01:20
And coming up next on the No Agenda
3:01:22
streams, abs in a six pack.
3:01:25
It'll be episode number 270.
3:01:26
We need another live show after our live
3:01:29
show.
3:01:29
Where are the live shows, people?
3:01:31
Give us a live show.
3:01:32
Coming to you from the heart of the
3:01:34
Texas Hill Country, soon to be the place
3:01:36
of another meetup here at J6 or Jenny's
3:01:39
place, Fredericksburg, Texas.
3:01:41
In the morning, everybody.
3:01:42
I'm Adam Curry.
3:01:43
And from Northern Silicon Valley, where I remain,
3:01:45
I'm John C.
3:01:46
Dvorak.
3:01:47
Meet us here again on Thursday.
3:01:48
We'll do it all over again for you
3:01:50
with more media deconstruction.
3:01:53
Until then, remember us at noagenda donations.com.
3:01:56
Adios, mofos.
3:01:58
A hooey hooey.
3:01:59
And such.
3:02:04
Good evening, Mari.
3:02:05
What is the White House saying about the
3:02:07
government shutdown?
3:02:08
Tiff, good evening.
3:02:09
Yes, the White House is blaming Democrats for
3:02:11
the government shutdown, saying that it impacts active
3:02:14
duty troops, critical food assistance, and flood insurance
3:02:17
as we enter hurricane season.
3:02:20
Republicans thought that they could barrel us into
3:02:23
a shutdown.
3:02:37
He's an idiot.
3:02:42
He's an idiot.
3:02:42
What is he talking?
3:02:43
What's a barrel?
3:02:44
Oh, the Republicans are trying to barrel us.
3:02:46
They can't barrel us.
3:02:51
They can't barrel us.
3:02:58
Ladies and gentlemen, if you take a sixpence,
3:03:01
which in Deutsch is Fuhrenzwanzig Pfennig, and you
3:03:04
go on the bus upstairs...
3:03:06
The omnibuses, the omnibuses we have put on
3:03:10
the table so far will make a real
3:03:13
difference.
3:03:17
Make no mistake.
3:03:18
For our future, we have to massively boost
3:03:29
the omnibuses.
3:03:32
The omnibuses.
3:03:38
The truth is that the world of today
3:03:41
is unforgiving.
3:03:43
And it is for all these reasons companies
3:03:47
and consumers alike and the omnibuses are on
3:03:55
their way.
3:03:55
For example, military mobility or on the digital.
3:04:05
They can feel the ground shift beneath them.
3:04:13
We simply cannot wait for this storm to
3:04:16
pass.
3:04:17
The omnibuses.
3:04:20
It is for all these reasons that a
3:04:23
new Europe must emerge.
3:04:27
The omnibuses.
3:04:29
But people will love the slop.
3:04:31
Oh, this baby loves the slop.
3:04:32
Loves it, eats it up.
3:04:33
Hates the slop.
3:04:35
Born to slop.
3:04:39
Loves it, eats it up.
3:04:41
Born to slop.
3:04:43
Hates the slop.
3:04:45
There they are, pigs.
3:04:46
They want more slop.
3:04:49
Loves it, eats it up.
3:04:52
Born to slop.
3:04:53
Hates the slop.
3:04:55
This baby loves the slop.
3:05:00
Give me slop.
3:05:01
Give me slop.
3:05:01
I love it.
3:05:02
I'm a pig.
3:05:02
Give it to me.
3:05:07
Loves it, eats it up.
3:05:08
Born to slop.
3:05:10
Oh, this baby loves the slop.
3:05:15
We're like pigs.
3:05:17
We're like pigs.
3:05:18
Give me slop.
3:05:19
Give me slop.
3:05:22
Born to slop.
3:05:23
Born to slop.
3:05:24
Hates the slop.
3:05:25
Hates the slop.
3:05:32
The best podcast in the universe.
3:05:37
Adios, mofo.
3:05:38
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3:05:42
better with age.
3:05:44
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