Cover for No Agenda Show 1599: Drop the Op
October 15th, 2023 • 3h 7m

1599: Drop the Op

Transcript

The transcripts of No Agenda are automatically generated and therefore, not fully accurate. Discretion is advised.

Click the text to start playing from that position in the show. Click the timestamp to copy a direct link to that position to your clipboard in order to propagate the formula.

0:00
Adam Curry: Spread invading Adam curry Jhansi Devorah for 1520 23
0:05
This is your award winning combination media assassination
0:08
episode 1599 This
0:10
Unknown: is no agenda and we're
0:13
Adam Curry: partying like it's 1599 and broadcasting live from
0:17
the heart of the country here in FEMA Region number six in the
0:20
morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry
0:22
John C Dvorak: in from Northern Silicon Valley where we're all
0:25
wondering where How and why did Pete Davidson become a sex
0:30
symbol? Jhansi Dvorak?
0:35
Adam Curry: Wow, man, you guys in California preoccupied with
0:38
the wrong things? Nobody cares about Pete Davidson anymore.
0:44
John C Dvorak: Taco Bell does.
0:49
Adam Curry: Really? Is his air commercial.
0:52
John C Dvorak: Oh, a.
0:54
Adam Curry: How do you How are you? What are you watching that?
0:55
You get Taco Bell commercial? I haven't seen Washington
0:58
television
0:59
John C Dvorak: to look for Eclipse. Mm hmm.
1:02
Adam Curry: So we had to speaking of Eclipse we had the
1:04
Eclipse yesterday. Yeah, we had
1:07
John C Dvorak: it too, though. You had it too. Oh, yeah. We had
1:10
the was the 95% It wasn't full like yours down there. But, boy,
1:14
I know your show isn't quite 100% full but you got one coming
1:17
in April. That's 100% And it's gonna be in Texas. Yes.
1:20
Adam Curry: Yes. The 1% 100% Well, the one yesterday was a
1:24
was judgeship was a total Jip
1:30
John C Dvorak: wasn't cool. No, no, it wasn't cool. You know
1:32
what Chip is?
1:33
Adam Curry: Now we gotta we gotta Ring of Fire. Okay, now,
1:36
that arc was what what, what, what? What are you What are you
1:40
hiding from, but we had
1:41
John C Dvorak: cloud cover through a bunch of fog. You got
1:46
to read it not only didn't get dark, you wouldn't know it
1:49
didn't even happened.
1:51
Adam Curry: So Fredericksburg was full. It wasn't like what we
1:54
expect for the full eclipse in April. But it was full. And I
1:58
know it was full because we had dinner with some new friends.
2:05
Remember, I told you I had my birthday dinner? And this guy
2:08
bought us bought our dinner?
2:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, the guy from across the room. It won't
2:14
get Yeah.
2:15
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Anyway, so they had they he has a ranch
2:22
like in Midland or something. And he lives in Austin, but they
2:25
always come to Fredericksburg on their way to the ranch. And, and
2:29
that's how we how we met them. And they could they had to stay
2:32
at the Comfort Inn and we're lucky to get a comfort in room,
2:35
which is almost a step below LaQuinta everything was full,
2:39
but it wasn't over full crazy. And you know, but people all I
2:42
ever do
2:42
Unknown: all. Ah ha. Ah,
2:49
Adam Curry: I just don't get it. Why are people so fascinated by
2:54
it? By the Eclipse? What is it that
2:56
John C Dvorak: the knives I've seen a couple of them? I've seen
2:59
a lot of debate boys, and moon and sun. And I did fun. It's
3:05
interesting. It was always interesting. When you have a
3:08
full Eclipse, it actually literally gets about 10 degrees
3:11
colder. Right on the spot. Yeah, that didn't happen yesterday,
3:14
either. No, it didn't happen here either. But normally, you
3:18
get this and as you can feel it's like Oh, and by the way,
3:21
when that happens when everyone out there gets to experience
3:24
this, like 10 degree drop in temperature when the sun gets
3:26
fullest Eclipse for just a few seconds. Thank yourself. Ah, the
3:30
sun has nothing to do with global warming.
3:33
Adam Curry: Sure. Okay, well speaking of that. So this new
3:38
friend, we're gonna call him Paul, the tycoon oil tycoon.
3:44
John C Dvorak: So we had this new friend of yours, it has to
3:46
be named in code.
3:48
Adam Curry: B, I haven't discussed with him yet. And I
3:53
don't want to ruin my new friendship just yet. So he had a
3:58
very successful Oil Company, which he took public, and then
4:02
they sold it. And then he had a year that he couldn't do
4:04
anything. They started a new one. So it was no new oil
4:07
companies worth one and a half billion dollars. You wouldn't
4:09
know looking at the guy. So this is like, Oh, how interesting.
4:12
John C Dvorak: Texas billionaires. They're all like
4:14
that. Yeah, exactly.
4:15
Adam Curry: And it's real. Like he's a guy that has, you know,
4:17
like drills on the ground and oil comes out. Yes. He's not a
4:24
wildcatter.
4:26
John C Dvorak: So wildcatters wildcatter.
4:29
Adam Curry: And he says, and so we're, you know, we're yapping
4:32
away and ESG comes up, he says, ah, oh, gotta tell you about ESG
4:38
All right, says Guess who the and this company is not yet
4:41
public. Guess what the number one investor is in my in my my
4:46
company my oil spurting out of the ground company. You get one
4:50
guest jump
4:57
John C Dvorak: I wouldn't have a clue of what who to guess. I
4:59
mean, yeah. Microsoft I mean, I don't know
5:01
Adam Curry: No, no. Did you talk by in the troll room got it
5:03
right right off the bat, BlackRock, BlackRock,
5:07
John C Dvorak: 50, blank row. They're interested in everything
5:09
and it will count down, but
5:10
Adam Curry: they're the guys who started the ESG program. This is
5:15
This is Larry Fink's baby. And it's like all we owe, you know,
5:18
if you're, if you don't have a high ESG score, then you're on
5:21
investable. And so he explained the mechanics, he said, he
5:25
backed off on it, by the way recently, yeah, a little bit,
5:28
but the ESG score hasn't gone away. And if you have a low and
5:32
environmental, social government governance, if you don't have
5:35
oh,
5:35
John C Dvorak: yeah, he's an oil company. You should be low
5:38
score, you should
5:39
Adam Curry: be zero negative score. So 50 million already in
5:43
another 50 million coming from BlackRock. And my new friend
5:47
Paul, the oil tycoon says, the ESG is phenomenal. It's great.
5:54
Because whenever they tell us all bow climate change,
5:58
whatever, you got to close it, well, boom, price goes up, we
6:02
make out like bandits. He says it's a whole the whole thing.
6:08
It's a scam. He says when we had the public company, it was
6:12
phenomenal. Oh, boy, we have to close it well, oh, it's a
6:15
problem. Boom, stock price rockets. To this whole thing is
6:21
a scapegoat. When
6:22
John C Dvorak: I look at the evidence of this, take a look at
6:26
the chart for Exxon. And first look at where Joe Biden was
6:34
elected and look at the stock price then and look at it. He
6:36
also said
6:37
Adam Curry: specifically, he says look, I don't like it for
6:40
our country in the world. But Democrats are good for business
6:44
use. Whenever a Democrat in the White House is good for us.
6:49
John C Dvorak: Tell it tell it to the 90s that's when Clinton
6:52
was in Iraq and
6:53
Adam Curry: yeah, why don't you soak in that for a bit? I love
6:58
saying that marinate in that once you put that in your pipe
7:03
and smoke it I don't know about you but there's nothing but
7:07
disinformation everywhere. The whole world is full of
7:09
disinformation so all disinformation everywhere.
7:11
disinformation. Now we have reports about disinformation.
7:14
Just disinformation. It's crazy. It's happening everywhere.
7:18
Hallie Jackson has to
7:20
John C Dvorak: report this information. Miss Sally jelly
7:23
Adam Curry: who has all kinds of weird sound effects on her show.
7:26
New into
7:26
Unknown: NBC tonight research. And by the way at work
7:29
John C Dvorak: she mugs she has a weird mugging face she's
7:33
mugging cow it constantly. She's getting she's I don't know. I
7:38
find her annoying. Uh, well,
7:40
Adam Curry: hello is joined the Halle annoying club. Yeah. And
7:44
this one her eyes roll. She's all bug eyed. Because Whoa,
7:47
misinformation is a huge problem.
7:50
Unknown: This new into NBC tonight a research group
7:53
uncovering a network of dozens of accounts, formerly known as
7:57
spread.
7:58
Adam Curry: Did you know that x is formerly known as Twitter?
8:01
This, you know be outlawed this? Why do they keep saying this?
8:06
When is it just going to be x?
8:08
John C Dvorak: But you can do what I do. I don't use x I say
8:11
twitter.com. No,
8:13
Adam Curry: I'm just I'm just saying x still twitter.com
8:17
Unknown: and dozens of accounts on apps formerly known as
8:19
Twitter. spreading, spreading,
8:22
Adam Curry: spreading dating. Oh, this is cool. What how did
8:24
she do that? How do you come up with spreading?
8:27
John C Dvorak: Spreading dating?
8:29
Adam Curry: She said spread dating. What is that all of us
8:31
spread what disseminating and spreading? That's okay.
8:35
Spreading dating. I think it should be it should be entered
8:37
into the dictionary. I like it. It's
8:39
Unknown: of accounts on apps formerly known as Twitter spread
8:41
knitting was spreading rather which believed to be coordinated
8:44
posts with distinct,
8:46
Adam Curry: coordinated. Oh, it's believed to be coordinated
8:49
posts and videos
8:50
Unknown: that have been viewed millions of times. X started
8:53
suspending some of the accounts after they were contacted by NBC
8:56
News but didn't otherwise have any comment. It's something
8:58
we've seen a lot of over the past few days. Oh, yeah.
9:02
Militants started a new airstrike on Israel. You see
9:06
that? That's that video that is actually from a video game. No,
9:09
no, that's not even really to the exact same video posted to
9:12
YouTube hear you
9:13
Adam Curry: there's an obvious conclusion to what they're doing
9:15
here. You and you know what's coming.
9:17
Unknown: And there was this post claiming Israel bombed and
9:19
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox Church in Gaza. It has something
9:22
like 3 million views.
9:24
Adam Curry: It has something like 3 million. What kind of
9:25
news report is that? And how many views that it have not
9:28
something like that's something like
9:30
John C Dvorak: $3 million. The number is right there. You can
9:32
read it.
9:33
Adam Curry: Now she sounded like a high school girl. It's
9:34
something that had something like 3000 3 Million Likes now.
9:37
Unknown: And there was this post claiming Israel bombed and
9:39
destroyed an old Greek Orthodox Church in Gaza. It has something
9:42
like 3 million views, but the church itself said it hasn't
9:46
been touched that any other news is false. Now have disclaimers
9:50
on the bottom if you go to F and look at the posts, but they're
9:52
not taken down and some of them are posted from verified users,
9:56
making it harder for people to know what's real. NBC News tech
9:58
correspondent Jake Ward Joining us now and Jake these are just a
10:01
couple of examples of this these posts containing misinformation
10:04
disinformation very difficult especially in a moment like this
10:08
when people are frankly desperate for information
10:11
turning to social media platforms just there's not a
10:13
clear cut picture that desperately is
10:15
not a clear cut picture Holly the past few days, this vivid
10:19
lesson in the fact that you literally cannot trust what
10:22
social media is. Even more difficult is the surprise turn
10:28
of events which means that legitimate sources of
10:31
information are slow to react because they were taking just as
10:33
surprised as so many people were across Israel. So a very, very
10:38
difficult moment but as you look for raishin of of misleading
10:42
content, and when it's not just made up as in the case of the
10:45
video game clip you're showing there a middle it's out of
10:48
context or out of time Oh, it trust us legitimate sources.
10:53
It's even hard for us people trust legitimate sources.
10:57
John C Dvorak: And when you're going on this route, because I
11:02
have a series of misleading clips from provided by PBS I
11:10
love that which is beyond like misinformation. It's a it's a
11:15
it's a lie.
11:16
Adam Curry: Well, let me set it up. Let
11:17
John C Dvorak: me set it up with keep no I want to hear more of
11:19
this.
11:20
Adam Curry: Yeah, another misinformation clip. This is
11:22
from CBS a term fake
11:24
Unknown: news is a controversial one controversial. It's often
11:28
used to falsely claim that the facts someone doesn't like or
11:31
just made up. But actual fake news takes on a new tone when
11:35
it's used as a weapon of war when misinformation has already
11:39
cropped up in abundance in the current conflict in the Middle
11:41
East. Jolene Kent has the story
11:44
Adam Curry: you see a similarity here the M five and what they're
11:47
saying.
11:48
Unknown: Oh, as the wound was real in Gaza
11:51
good start
11:54
John C Dvorak: there trying to use misinformation and a random
11:56
explosion Yeah, how
11:57
Adam Curry: should we start this report about misinformation? I
12:00
don't know blow something up. Good one
12:02
Unknown: as the war in Israel in Gaza plays out in real time on
12:05
social media. Experts say bad information and propaganda are
12:09
spreading on X formally, Twitter Oh,
12:12
Adam Curry: it's x again. Formerly known as Twitter I
12:15
there's a pattern here it's group
12:17
Unknown: aleafia detected a network of at least 67 accounts
12:20
that posted false content about the war faulty Russians millions
12:24
of views by now. excluding these mistranslated videos of Russian
12:30
President Vladimir Putin and Foreign Minister Sergei Lavrov,
12:34
you manipulated to falsely say that Russia will support
12:37
Palestine if the US supports Israel. Why are 67 accounts so
12:43
powerful in their influence? And why do they not
12:46
Adam Curry: know they are? No they are they're very powerful.
12:48
This is Elon his home business model is now being attacked.
12:51
This is this is the point of this
12:53
Unknown: and why do they matter? It matters whether or not people
12:56
believe that and the more times that people are able to view
12:59
content of a similarly, the more opportunities an actor has to
13:04
convince somebody of something that may or may not be for
13:07
Adam Curry: an actor George Clooney was doing this. What
13:10
actor actor Brad Pitt This
13:12
Unknown: comes after Elon Musk, the owner of X laid off much of
13:15
the team responsible for monitoring. The European Union
13:22
sent this letter to the billionaire asking Musk to
13:24
immediately remove illegal content and disinformation.
13:28
Adam Curry: My name is God but at all I have a habit bug it in
13:30
my book.
13:31
Unknown: Otherwise, penalties can be imposed. How does this
13:34
disinformation impact the war? And what we know about it
13:38
when we flood people with this sea of unvetted information,
13:43
much of it deceptive, is we're throwing away the goodwill of
13:47
our citizens. And we're opening the door to a variety of people
13:51
that want to manipulate their goodwill.
13:53
Do you anticipate seeing more of this kind of activity as the war
13:57
continues? Oh, yes,
13:58
Adam Curry: of course. Yes.
13:59
Unknown: We do anticipate that in the coming days that this
14:02
information sphere is going to get updated and that more actors
14:06
will be weaponizing information.
14:10
Adam Curry: More and more actors.
14:13
Unknown: What our history as
14:14
Adam Curry: she did it again, did she just do again x formerly
14:17
known Twitter
14:18
Unknown: X. Formerly Twitter has said as of Monday, they've
14:21
already removed several 100 accounts, including those that
14:24
are Hamas affiliated. Meantime, we've been pressing the other
14:27
social media companies about this. And Snapchat, Tik Tok and
14:30
Facebook all say they've increased their resources to
14:33
fight disinformation.
14:35
John C Dvorak: Oh, please.
14:36
Adam Curry: So before, before we get to your clips, I'm very
14:38
interested in those two things. One, this is confirmed all right
14:42
now I don't have I don't have to have the TIC tock app. People
14:45
send me tic TOCs all the time and I open them in the browser.
14:48
And so what I do then every single time after that tick tock
14:52
is done that one video, the same. Horrific, violent clip
14:58
pops up from some Israeli kid being killed at the at the at
15:04
the at the rave and my my buddy Dave
15:07
John C Dvorak: he says it must be your cookies
15:08
Adam Curry: no he didn't get it well okay but I'm two people in
15:13
two different states are seeing the same thing so I there's
15:18
those misinformation different from from different from
15:20
Michigan now before we get before we get into it before we
15:23
go any further with this talking about this conflict what's
15:26
happening in the Middle East
15:27
John C Dvorak: Adams gonna read his email by area fine there's
15:32
the old clip
15:34
Adam Curry: it's called a cigales from the gym
15:36
Unknown: who's gonna read his email
15:39
Adam Curry: on the no agenda. That's not tedious. I want to
15:47
remind everybody that when we deconstruct these things, same
15:52
with COVID lockdowns you, Ukraine. It is it is masks, it
15:59
is bad for business. It is not a great business model that we
16:05
have. It's not like people go oh, yeah, this is great. No,
16:10
people walk away from the show. They go,
16:13
John C Dvorak: Oh, I've been I bought in hook line and sinker
16:16
and they're telling me I'm wrong. You guys suck.
16:19
Adam Curry: I has been listening to your show no agenda for two
16:24
to four years. That's Wait, wait
16:27
John C Dvorak: two to four years.
16:28
Adam Curry: That's an interest. Very interesting range. Never
16:31
heard to two to four years and I've always enjoyed it. However,
16:37
your coverage of the atrocities by the monstrous Hamas,
16:42
including the beheading of innocent babies, babies torn
16:46
from their mother's bellies is so appalling. So I, I don't
16:53
recall babies torn from their mother's bellies to new one.
16:58
There is indeed ample footage pictures to prove what happened.
17:02
And your glib laughter was one your glib laughter with John,
17:07
well, there are no words, you're excused that you're just
17:12
evaluating the media coverage is cheap, and not even believable.
17:17
To say I'm disappointed and disgusted would be an
17:19
understatement.
17:22
John C Dvorak: I want to remind people out there who have these
17:24
kinds of complaints, send them to Adam because he'll read him
17:27
on the air.
17:31
Adam Curry: You know, it's it's taken on a whole new level, you
17:33
know, the mid curry.com. You know, the, you know, that dude
17:37
who was so mad about when we started talking about trans
17:41
Maoism.
17:42
John C Dvorak: Tim Poole now? No,
17:45
Adam Curry: I iron iron hide. 1970 Mike Ironhide 1972 He was
17:51
it was he was putting pictures up on Norwegian art generator
17:54
that we suck. It was your post? Oh,
17:56
John C Dvorak: yeah, we I think we bounced him that way.
17:58
Adam Curry: I died. I mean, Paul, pocket two are bouncing
18:02
from that. But they showed up in the troll room last show. So now
18:06
I get an email from one of our producers who happens to also
18:12
own the venue where he's organizing the a meet up. It's a
18:17
burger joint. And the email he received which I'm sure many
18:22
John C Dvorak: the hater, you're talking about organizing a
18:23
meeting? No, no, no, no.
18:25
Adam Curry: One of our producers who's organizing a meetup who
18:28
organizes one regularly who has a venue he owns the venue in
18:32
this case, as the venue owner, he received an email from the
18:36
hater. Okay, letting you know that a group from the no agenda
18:40
podcast will be at your establishment on October 14 at
18:44
5pm this group follows a very homophobic and transphobic
18:49
podcast. I would use all caution when serving these people.
18:56
John C Dvorak: Wow.
18:59
Adam Curry: That was a good wow. That was a very good wow,
19:02
John C Dvorak: that's a very good while because that's a wow
19:04
moment. Yeah, so this prick that's calm where he is.
19:09
Besides, he doesn't like to show for whatever reason. Oh, noes
19:14
are after the venue for the meetup. But coincidentally, the
19:18
venue is owned by the guy organizing the meetup. So he
19:21
sends the mail right on to us, which you just read. That is
19:25
unbelievable. That guy is a true a whole I wish these people
19:30
wouldn't even listen to the show. They get better things to
19:32
do. There's other shows that can go to well, this I harass us,
19:37
because they're white trying to ruin a good meet up. I mean,
19:40
come on. That's sick. I actually
19:41
Adam Curry: tried to talk him off the ledge when this first
19:43
started and I was emailing him personally and then he decided
19:46
that the prick Yeah, then he then he published all my emails.
19:51
I'm like, Dude, I pray for him. I go, I forgive him. I forgive
19:56
him. He has issues I forgive him. I hope it works out for
19:59
him. All right now won't now on to your your disinfo clips from
20:05
NPR which I'm very excited for PBS it was our I'm sorry I mean
20:09
NPR PBS I mean
20:11
John C Dvorak: yeah what diverse is a second let's
20:13
Adam Curry: do it let's do it right
20:15
Unknown: elitist voices of America this is NPR or PBS
20:22
Adam Curry: doesn't matter
20:24
John C Dvorak: so a couple of these I got some intro ones that
20:27
we can go into which is the Brooks and K part.
20:31
Adam Curry: Oh Mike you know, I'm gonna have to start banning
20:34
these these these clips because I'll blame me Oh, but nobody
20:37
watches this anymore. They have zero traction. They don't they
20:42
still think it's Brooks and Dunn
20:47
Unknown: never was Brooks.
20:49
Adam Curry: That's a country duo. What's what's Brooks
20:53
John C Dvorak: Garth Brooks? What's the other guy? A key part
20:58
before before
20:59
Adam Curry: before K part who was at the shields? Oh, Brooks
21:02
and shields see we don't even remember the old guys
21:04
John C Dvorak: I remember.
21:05
Adam Curry: Oh, okay. Okay some point all right, let's go but
21:09
what are we
21:09
John C Dvorak: examples I'm gonna lead into the into the to
21:13
the egregious re edited clip. I'm sorry. They used to become a
21:19
gassed and pissed off. And it's ridiculous. But let's firstly
21:23
get us in the mood by listening to these two boneheads in the
21:26
mood in the mood. This is start I'm gonna start with Brooks
21:30
Putin Hamas.
21:32
Unknown: For I thought this was one of Joe Biden's best weeks as
21:34
president. You know, he was a was a moral clarity.
21:38
Adam Curry: That's great. Right there. He's better. He said,
21:42
Hey, I've seen proof of the babies decapitated. It's true.
21:45
It's right. It's certified verify? Oh, I'm sorry. No, the
21:48
President was confused.
21:49
Unknown: He was one of the early voices to remind everybody that
21:52
what Hamas has become looks like ISIS sort of a death cult. He
21:55
did in the face of divisions on the left. There are a lot of
21:58
mainstream liberals who are appalled by what happened there
22:00
more progressive voices, many who think this is a legitimate
22:04
part of decolonization. And yeah, Joe Biden has knows
22:07
Israeli history. He knows the Palestinians. He's been doing
22:10
this for a long time. And he knows that this is a case of
22:14
someone who wants to have a group that wants to destroy
22:16
Israel and push the Jews into the sea. And so he said that it
22:21
is also making the case which I think Solinsky is a little ahead
22:23
of him on Ukraine and Israel, the Morgans Tomas and against
22:28
Putin are joined their wars against barbarism.
22:31
Adam Curry: What? Yeah. What did he say
22:36
John C Dvorak: that Putin in Hamas are the same? Ukraine and
22:42
Israel is the same. Wow. Wow. Okay. Yeah.
22:46
Adam Curry: It's the same. It's the same except the reverse, but
22:49
John C Dvorak: we can't actually say it's the same. It's the same
22:52
Hello. So
22:53
Adam Curry: you have a big country like Russia is just like
22:55
Hamas? The big country and the big country, the big the big
23:00
elephant in the fight? Okay. All right. Okay, good.
23:03
John C Dvorak: Let's go Brooks to K part two.
23:06
Unknown: And I think he sees that clearly. And so I just
23:09
think it was it was just a marvelous display, moral
23:11
clarity, and real storytelling. For a guy who stories grand
23:15
narrative storytelling, and rhetoric is not always the great
23:18
gift, but I just thought magnificent
23:20
moral clarity and grand storytelling. What's your
23:22
assessment of the administration's response?
23:24
I agree with with David 100%. President, it's the Secretary of
23:29
State who spoke from the heart next to Prime Minister Netanyahu
23:35
and Secretary of Defense Lloyd Austin being there earlier in
23:40
the day today also showing solidarity but i What happened a
23:46
week ago, tonight or tomorrow is really it's beyond disturbing.
23:52
And I I just feel compelled. You know, as an African American, I
23:57
understand the ancestral pain and terror felt by my Jewish
24:05
friends and Jews around the world by what happened this was
24:09
not what Hamas did was not the usual Middle East back and
24:14
forth. This was barbaric.
24:17
Adam Curry: This is literally what you get called out for. If
24:20
you say I have a black friend. You know, that's, that's a raw
24:25
take. No, but you can see I have a Jewish friend but oh, that's
24:28
Dr. Jewish friend. Okay.
24:30
John C Dvorak: Another Jewish friend.
24:30
Adam Curry: I got Jewish friend. Oh, man. That's not so
24:35
John C Dvorak: they're pushing this barbaric thing. So, of
24:37
course, so they are building up to this and now I'm going to
24:40
take us into the to the egregious editing of a Trump
24:44
clip to make him say stuff he didn't say and I have the
24:47
original clips. I dug them up. Okay, the way we do Yes, and I
24:51
want to compare one to the other but let's start but it's also
24:54
the reaction first they edit it clip, and then they react to it
24:58
even though the clips of fake If they react to it and they go
25:02
out, they go off the rails with how bad Trump is as a person.
25:05
This is the the intro to this clip and this is Brooks Trump
25:09
edit intro as we
25:10
Unknown: talk about the Biden administration's response and
25:13
response his predecessor Donald Trump drew why criticism and
25:16
condemnation this past week for faulting Netanyahu for calling
25:20
Hezbollah very smart in his remarks.
25:23
Adam Curry: Oh, it's another it's a new very fine people is
25:25
the very smart people. Now this is good. This is good. Okay,
25:30
where do we go now?
25:32
John C Dvorak: Okay, so first of all, he makes a mention he that
25:35
that's the host guy, the black guy, postgame he mentions the
25:41
Netanyahu and then he mentioned that, that Trump says Hezbollah
25:47
is very smart. And now we go to they take the clip of a butcher
25:52
a clip, and they don't even have it from the same feed. So it's a
25:55
mess. And I tried to even clean it up with Adobe. But to hell
25:59
with it. Let's leave the mess with the way it is because Adobe
26:02
actually doesn't work on Trump. No interest. Very, I've noticed
26:06
this before. Adobe does not work on Trump. They hate Trump. He
26:12
must. So they probably do. Silicon Valley. So let's go to
26:16
this is the Brooks Trump and this got the edited clip this is
26:19
to Okay,
26:21
Unknown: I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
26:25
was a very terrible thing. I will say that it is a GI Oh, PES
26:29
Villa desert attacks on the north, because that's the most
26:33
vulnerable status.
26:40
And we can contrast that to what Ron DeSantis and Nikki Haley had
26:43
to say,
26:44
Israel has a right to defend itself. And that means do that
26:48
to the hilt. You have to uproot the terrorist infrastructure,
26:51
these networks, and Hamas needs to be no more this is sick, and
26:56
we
26:56
have to treat sick people the way they deserve to be treated
26:58
and eliminate them.
26:59
Your response to what Donald Trump had to say.
27:02
The clip you showed is exhibit number, whatever it is, of why
27:09
he should never ever again be entrusted with the power and
27:13
responsibility that comes with sitting in the Oval Office. I am
27:17
happy to be wrong about the reaction from the Republican
27:21
presidential field. I thought they would follow form and not
27:26
criticize Trump at all for fear of engendering rage of their
27:31
base. But Governor Haley, Governor DeSantis, Governor
27:37
Christie, former Vice President Mike Pence, most of them
27:42
criticize Trump, and I applaud them for that. But there's no
27:45
way that guy should be President of the United States, again, by
27:49
back clip alone.
27:50
Adam Curry: So you know, when we deconstruct clips, and we're
27:53
looking at the media and we get another kind of feedback I read
27:57
earlier, these a holes are just politicizing it for their own
28:00
for their own ego, whatever it is, oh, whatever it is, let's
28:04
keep Trump out. That's That's disgusting.
28:10
John C Dvorak: waiting to hear their original Trump clips. I
28:12
can't wait. We can also play I think Brookes reaction to this
28:16
same edited little clip where he says Netanyahu, first Trump
28:20
brings in Netanyahu then he says Hezbollah smart. And this says
28:25
they're gonna attack from the north or something. It's a very
28:27
confused, it's a really screwed up edit. And then they bring in,
28:34
as you heard DeSantis talking about a Hamas, which is not what
28:37
Trump was talking about. And then Nikki Haley saying it's
28:40
these people are sick, kind of indicating that Trump
28:43
Adam Curry: is sick, which is not what that was about at
28:45
John C Dvorak: all. That was not what that was about. So this is
28:48
a real real hack job hack job. Exactly. And here's the follow
28:54
up by Brooks.
28:55
Unknown: It's also a reminder of how Donald Trump's isolationist
28:59
views have really realigned the Republicans approach to foreign
29:02
policy.
29:03
It's stunning. I mean, it well, first that Donald Trump clip,
29:06
everything is about Donald Trump, like 1000 People get
29:10
murdered, and it's all about Donald Trump. And the party has
29:13
you know, it was the party of, of anti communism. It was the
29:17
party of American led world order. It was the party of
29:21
containment against Russia against the Soviet Union. And
29:24
now it's very much the opposite. And as I look at the Republican
29:26
Party, I just want to make sure they're gonna fund Ukraine
29:34
John C Dvorak: so now, these are two guys that are supposed to be
29:36
arguing with each other to give people perspective when they
29:40
watch the PBS NewsHour, right. And but no, there are two guys
29:42
that are in total agreement. Neither one of them are
29:45
representative of anything other than one lone pro Ukraine view,
29:50
but just go back to that clip that they butchered and listen
29:53
to Trump's actually this is a long clip, but you need to hear
29:57
the whole thing in context. The six This is actually a good
30:01
sorry, this isn't good. This is good quality. This is the Trump
30:03
unedited comments regarding Hezbollah being smart
30:07
Unknown: for $6 billion was a tremendous amount of money, but
30:10
nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that
30:14
Biden allowed them to make and oil and other things, hundreds
30:17
of billions that became a rich nation in three years. That's
30:21
why they're doing this f so much money. They don't know what to
30:23
do with it. They had no money, they were broke. And then there
30:27
was the inevitable attack four days later, which I predicted.
30:31
And then two nights ago, I read all of Biden security people,
30:35
can you imagine National Defense people? And they said, Gee, I
30:39
hope Hezbollah doesn't attack from the north. Because that's
30:43
the most vulnerable spot. I said, Wait a minute. You know,
30:46
Hezbollah is very smart. They're all very smart depressant, like
30:49
when they say, you know, I said that President Xi of China, 1.4
30:53
billion people, he controls it with an iron fist. He said he's
30:56
a very smart man. They killed me the next day. I said he was
31:00
smart whenever I get a say. But his was diverse. And they have a
31:05
national defense minister or somebody saying I hope Hezbollah
31:10
doesn't attack us from the north. So the following morning,
31:13
they attacked, they might not have been doing it. But if you
31:15
listen to this jerk, you would attack from the north because he
31:20
said that's our weak spot. Whoever heard of official saying
31:24
on television that they hope the enemy doesn't attack in a
31:27
certain area. Now unless it's a con job. But you know what a con
31:32
job is you're waiting. They're ready. You want them if you want
31:35
to, but they weren't ready. They weren't ready. You know, say
31:38
what you want. Israel was not ready. This was a big surprise.
31:41
This was a terrible thing that happened. They weren't ready.
31:44
But if you wanted them to attack because you've got a million
31:47
people there with guns and you're gonna blast to hell, then
31:50
you do exactly, but they didn't have that. They didn't have that
31:54
Biden's National Security Adviser Jake Sullivan, even
31:57
bragged just days before the attack that the Middle East
32:01
seems to be quite quiet. That was good. They really, they
32:04
really, honestly what they've done. It's a shame.
32:09
John C Dvorak: Yeah. Okay, now, what couple of things about
32:13
that, oh, this is all in context. It's fine. What he
32:16
said, Whoa, he's not complimenting Hezbollah, like
32:20
they also like to imagine, but what did you notice? There was
32:23
no mention of Netanyahu in that entire
32:25
Adam Curry: letter. They edited that together. So that and it
32:27
was in the intro piece. It was two different pieces of audio.
32:31
That's the first thing I noticed. Yeah,
32:33
John C Dvorak: it was they did a botch job. I mean, they could
32:36
have had good quality because it was all from the same speech. In
32:38
fact, I have the Netanyahu piece, and the Netanyahu piece,
32:42
which they just pulled out of context and dropped it in as a
32:45
cheat as a as a sleazy lowest form of journalism thing you
32:50
could possibly do, which they did on PBS. I have the Netanyahu
32:55
piece, which actually stand alone is very interesting and
33:00
could have been used as a jumping off point for a big
33:03
discussion. And I'm surprised that they didn't do that because
33:06
it's more interesting than what they did, which was just Trump
33:09
batch. But listen to this. This is Trump on on Netanyahu. It's a
33:14
backgrounder. That's kind of interesting.
33:16
Unknown: The savage attacks on Israel happened for three
33:19
reasons Biden loosen might
33:21
Adam Curry: not the grudge clip. This is the regular live show. I
33:24
John C Dvorak: used to grudge clip.
33:27
Unknown: I did have a bad experience with Israel, though.
33:29
When we took out Soleimani. It was us at Israel working as a
33:33
group. And we knew where he was. We knew how he was coming in. We
33:38
knew the plane. We knew everything. We worked on it for
33:41
weeks for months, actually. But we worked on it for weeks. The
33:45
night before? Nope, I didn't I don't think this has ever been
33:48
told. They'll say oh, it's classified information. Well,
33:51
maybe it is. But I don't think so. Israel was going to do this
33:55
with us. And it was being planned and working on it for
33:58
months. And now we had everything all set to go. And
34:02
the night before it happened. I got a call that Israel will not
34:07
be participating in this attack. Let's do it. And he came on the
34:12
plane and we follow them right from the Situation Room. We
34:15
followed the whole thing and about 15 seconds later it was
34:20
all over. And we did it but I'll never forget. I'll never forget
34:26
that Bibi Netanyahu let us down that was a very terrible thing.
34:30
I will say that we were disappointed by that very
34:33
disappointed but we did the job ourselves and it was absolute
34:36
precision. magnificent, beautiful. And then maybe tried
34:41
to take credit for it. That didn't make me feel too good but
34:45
that's all right. So they gotta strengthen themselves up.
34:49
Adam Curry: Wow, that's that is a little piece of info we didn't
34:52
know about.
34:53
John C Dvorak: We had no idea but he noticed a little part in
34:56
that clip versus BB let us down is the little piece they took
34:59
out They chopped it from that and put it on the front end of
35:03
the other.
35:04
Adam Curry: Let's play that intro again,
35:06
Unknown: as we talk about the Biden administration's response
35:08
response, his predecessor Donald Trump drew wide criticism and
35:12
condemnation this past week for actually the beginning because
35:14
it's too hard to
35:15
Adam Curry: I'm sorry. Yeah,
35:16
Unknown: I'll never forget that Bibi Netanyahu let us down. That
35:20
was a very terrible thing. I will say that and they said gee,
35:24
I hope Hezbollah doesn't attack from the north.
35:26
Adam Curry: Wow, that I mean, you should you should be fired
35:31
from journalism for doing that.
35:33
John C Dvorak: They should all be fired from PBS should PBS
35:37
should take a knee for for this is the one of the most egregious
35:41
examples of editing. And false it's this is misinformation,
35:47
misinformation.
35:48
Adam Curry: Yes. Blatant, blatant on your national
35:52
treasure PBS or NPR. So I'm one of those two, same thing.
35:56
John C Dvorak: So those are the original clips and you can see
35:58
that they they totally, this is a lie. And Brooks and K part
36:03
should be ashamed of themselves for going along with it. And
36:06
then making a big fuss about what a jerk Trump is.
36:09
Adam Curry: Unbelievable. It's not unbelievable. It's
36:11
believable. It's totally booked. No, it's
36:12
John C Dvorak: not unbelievable, because it's happened
36:14
believable. Yeah. So that's good. Good presentation.
36:19
Adam Curry: I like it. I like it. Well, of course, we were
36:23
told
36:23
John C Dvorak: and I want to say it again. Do not send your money
36:26
to these people send it to us. Yes,
36:29
Adam Curry: we don't have tote bags, but we can use the money,
36:31
that's for sure. So of course everybody was all riled up about
36:35
the Day of Rage this
36:36
Unknown: morning law enforcement officers across the country on
36:39
heightened alert after Hamas has called for a Global Day of Rage.
36:44
The Los Angeles County Sheriff's Office is pulling personnel from
36:47
specialized units to increase visibility. In New York
36:54
congregates from dozens of synagogues prayed for peace as
36:58
helicopters watch for suspicious vehicles from above
37:01
and boats with radiation detectors patrolled the waters.
37:04
The NYPD telling its officers to prepare for 12 hour shifts.
37:09
We have directed the NYPD to surge additional resources to
37:13
schools houses of worship to assure that they are safe.
37:20
John C Dvorak: So as far as I know, they got some day I got a
37:22
Day of Rage clip. Okay. What's his? Well,
37:28
Adam Curry: there's always something going on in the world.
37:30
Yeah, there's something
37:30
John C Dvorak: that's why I think this is a good example.
37:32
This is the various 13th which is the de river Okay, right.
37:36
stabbings.
37:37
Unknown: A Jewish teacher in France is reportedly dead after
37:41
a knife attack to others have been injured and asylum seeker
37:45
reportedly went on a stabbing spree attacking various people
37:49
screaming
37:49
Adam Curry: alone notice notice we've gone to asylum seekers now
37:53
which is the it's the word they use in Europe. We're going to
37:55
use it everywhere. It does be using this for years asylum
37:58
seeker. Asylum Seeker
38:00
Unknown: reportedly went on a stabbing spree attacking various
38:03
people screaming Allahu Akbar, France's President Emmanuel
38:07
Macron visited the school on Friday afternoon. Also a staffer
38:12
at the Israeli embassy in China was stabbed on the sidewalk in
38:16
Beijing for the chose the diplomat being stabbed multiple
38:19
times by a man and white
38:23
Adam Curry: so that was your Day of Rage not very successful, but
38:25
they got us all riled up I think kind of everybody
38:28
John C Dvorak: get me riled up. Somebody riled up didn't get
38:31
riled Oh, would you must have a clip
38:32
Adam Curry: no agenda, people don't know no agenda. People
38:34
don't get riled up. We just don't get riled up. We don't
38:37
because we know we know what they're doing to us. Now, I want
38:41
to talk about the military industrial complex. A lot of
38:43
people benefit from this, this crisis in the Middle East. I
38:46
just got an A message, I should say, from Sir Brian of London,
38:51
boots on the ground. Who, you know, there's this funerals this
38:56
guy's attending. He is right in the middle of it, though, and
39:00
I've been back and forth with him for days and he's having a
39:03
rough go of what's happening. And, and he sent a video and he
39:09
has on his and I take his credibility quite high. He's
39:12
He's a night that Israel is now using the laser iron beam. Not
39:20
Iron Dome, but the iron beam. And it's cool that they have a
39:25
laser now shooting things out of the sky. Yep, yep.
39:28
John C Dvorak: Okay, there's a couple of things before you go
39:30
into these clips. Did you see the Richard angle clip that's
39:34
going around showing how the Iron Dome supposedly works? You
39:39
see these missiles flying into the air and then they're taking
39:41
a right turn and going in the opposite direction. Have you
39:46
seen those clips? Well, I've
39:47
Adam Curry: seen it I don't know if it's the one you're talking
39:48
about. I've seen
39:49
John C Dvorak: similar probably. I just don't understand what's
39:52
going on with these clips because there was always the
39:54
iron Iron Dome at work. Missile going up and then turning around
40:00
Ronnie going the other way I thought the Iron Dome was was
40:03
Patriot missiles that were shooting these things out of the
40:05
sky.
40:06
Adam Curry: That's what I thought, well not but now they
40:08
have, you can see laser beams. In fact, Jewish laser beams. I
40:13
mean, it's a little crazy. But I'm sure they're ours. But these
40:17
have directed energy weapons now they're using which is it's
40:21
quite like whoa, okay, I didn't expect to see that. Anyway, we
40:25
need to go to the military industrial complex, which the
40:29
both of these people are part of it in some way. Catherine
40:31
herridge, of course, the pixie girl who was read in on all
40:35
things, military and intelligence and John Bolton who
40:38
is just a huge moustache aihole. And just a quick couple of clips
40:42
here because you know, you don't hear from this guy for years,
40:45
and he's off the stage. But he's back
40:47
Unknown: earlier today I spoke with former national security
40:50
adviser to President Trump Ambassador John Bolton about the
40:53
situation in the Middle East. As we head into the weekend as a
40:57
former national security adviser, what indicators are you
41:00
going to be watching?
41:01
Well, I think the big unknown question at this point is what
41:04
happens with Hezbollah in the north? I think the evidence is
41:08
clear beyond real dispute here that the signal caller in this
41:12
operation is Iran. They armed and prepared Hamas. I think they
41:17
unleashed him at a time they thought it would be beneficial
41:19
to Iran in the Iran issue is Rod part of the strategy that
41:24
they're following is to get the Israelis sucked into Gaza in a
41:28
very heavy way, militarily, and then to unleash Hezbollah from
41:32
the North. I think there are some signs along the northern
41:36
border. Nothing conclusive, but I think that's the main point of
41:39
danger at this point. Yes. Okay.
41:41
Adam Curry: Um, thanks. I mean, my my sister in Italy could have
41:44
gone on on your show and said that. Let's go a little deeper
41:49
into that.
41:50
John C Dvorak: Bring her on next time. She's,
41:52
Adam Curry: yeah, get on Catherine herridge. Let's get
41:54
this. Let's get John Bolton, you're so interesting.
41:56
Unknown: Let's take that a step further. Given the scope and the
41:59
sophistication of the Hamas attack. Do you believe that
42:04
another shoe is going to drop
42:06
Adam Curry: Oh, another shoe is gonna drop?
42:08
Unknown: I think it's very likely. And I think Hezbollah is
42:10
the most likely implementer of that. But there may be terrorist
42:14
attacks around the region. Friday has been declared a day
42:17
of jihad in the region and around the world. And so this
42:20
this really could be the beginning of a much longer
42:23
process here. What that will entail, but I think anybody who
42:28
thinks hold on to the over in a few days, unfortunately,
42:31
mistaken nothing happened. Bolton
42:33
Adam Curry: Yeah, nothing. He's such a prognosticator
42:36
John C Dvorak: genius. Oh, as a jihad day. Yeah.
42:41
Adam Curry: Take a long time. We're gonna need some money and
42:43
start printing some money. We need money. We mean money.
42:46
Unknown: What does it mean here at home, law enforcement
42:49
officials have been telling CBS News and other media outlets
42:52
that they're seeing no signs of a specific or credible threat.
42:55
Adam Curry: This is so much fun to play that after the global
42:57
day at rage.
42:58
Unknown: I think at the moment the main threat area is in the
43:02
Middle East. I think it's Israel. It's the target, but I
43:05
think it's almost certain that having wow wow,
43:11
John C Dvorak: wow, what a genius.
43:13
Unknown: Look at my moustache. I think it's almost certain that
43:17
having missed this attack to begin with, not just Israeli
43:20
intelligence. But but our own intelligence community, whatever
43:26
evidence there was, they didn't draw the right conclusions. You
43:29
know, the next question you should ask is What else have we
43:32
missed? What
43:32
Adam Curry: else have we missed? Oh, we need more spy gear was
43:36
not good. You know, I just as a as a little side note here. This
43:43
is fantastic story which checks out and I'm not gonna say it's
43:46
related to it per se. But you've heard of Pegasus. The spyware
43:52
Pegasus, the company Pegasus? I think so. So Pegasus was, you
43:56
know, that's the Israeli spyware that's on everybody's phone and
44:00
they've sold it all around the world. Our our US agencies were
44:03
using a Pegasus is great. You can be track everybody. You got
44:07
to phone Pegasus is on it. So when, when Trump came in, and
44:13
the Obama Biden administration left the Blinken and who is the
44:21
assistant deputy director of CIA Avril Haines, I think is her
44:27
name Haidee something could be they all started a lobbying firm
44:33
called West executive. And they started lobbying for a competing
44:38
firm. And that firm was also with a P. O a second
44:47
John C Dvorak: that Palantir
44:48
Adam Curry: No, no, no, no, no, no, this is all follow up
44:50
topology Palantir now they started lobbying of course it's
44:54
great when when you lobby you know, as a former
44:58
administration, prepare Gone Paragon was was call and they
45:03
started loving all Paragon we gotta get you got to have
45:05
Paragon and and you know this is no good this this Pegasus
45:10
software. And coincidentally, if you recall the big stink about
45:16
Khashoggi was that it was Pegasus software that the
45:21
Israeli Pegasus company had sold to Saudi Arabia that got him
45:26
killed. You remember that? Remember that?
45:28
John C Dvorak: Vaguely remembers it?
45:31
Adam Curry: Yeah. So that was probably planted by these guys
45:33
because they get back in with Biden. And in March of this
45:37
year, Biden writes up this huge executive order on prohibition
45:41
on use by the United States government of certain commercial
45:44
spyware that poses risks to national security. And when you
45:48
know, that was written precisely to outlaw Pegasus, and have this
45:53
other software be the software and they haven't sold it to
45:56
Saudi Arabia. So it's just a little side note. But when you
46:00
have the Israeli government highly relying on one software,
46:06
for spying on anybody with a phone, and that's Pegasus, and
46:12
all of a sudden, it's no good and everyone has to have Paragon
46:15
and that company starts to bleed employees bloat bleed clients,
46:19
that may have contributed in some way to some lapses in
46:24
security. I have no proof for that. But I just thought that
46:27
was interesting that Sullivan and all these eight holes,
46:30
including Ehud Barak, they were all involved in in this lobbying
46:34
firm, and then they get in and boom, there you go. They get rid
46:37
of that company. And this new company is supposed to be it and
46:40
I don't even know if the Israelis are using it. Now, just
46:43
a little side note. So when Bolton says, oh, yeah, baby
46:49
lapse and security, maybe our lap, maybe it was a shitty
46:51
software you brought in
46:52
Unknown: why are the
46:54
John C Dvorak: US or no lapse in security? That also possible?
46:57
Unknown: What are the US government's best options to
47:01
secure the release of the hostages bomb Iran?
47:04
Well, I think at this point, unfortunately, given how caught
47:09
by surprise we were, that it's going to take rescue efforts
47:12
under extraordinary extraordinarily difficult
47:15
circumstances. I mean, I think the administration is correct to
47:18
seek a diplomatic approach they're in gutter today. I just
47:22
don't think Hamas is in a mood to bargain I think they've got
47:25
a gutter he said gutter he didn't say cutter
47:30
which they're in gutter today. Yeah, gutter is in a mood to
47:34
bargain. I think they've got very valuable bargaining chips
47:38
that they're going to get a much higher price for at least that's
47:41
what they think. I think the hostages are in grave danger and
47:44
I think therefore any further time that goes by before rescue
47:49
efforts begin puts their lives in even greater danger than it
47:52
is already All
47:53
Adam Curry: right. So Bolton is that just asking anybody to come
47:56
on who's connected to anything Think Tank anything money
48:01
anything hateful, these are all just horrible people who would
48:04
just talk him out of there but but the best by far the best
48:08
person the best representative of the military industrial
48:11
complex on mainstream M five M. Television is definitely Lindsey
48:17
Graham. Lindsey Graham is rocking it. And he is making
48:22
very sure we understand that Iran is in our sights, boss
48:28
Unknown: in the last hour announcing it's going to begin
48:30
to execute hostages and post video evidence online for every
48:35
Israeli airstrike. your sights on this moment, Senator?
48:41
Well, for every Israeli or American hostage executed by
48:46
Hamas, we should take down and Iranian oil refinery. All the
48:51
way you got to keep this for from escalating is to hold Iran
48:55
accountable.
48:55
Adam Curry: The only way you keep the war from escalating is
48:57
by bombing another country? Yes. How
48:59
Unknown: much more death and destruction do we have to take
49:03
Adam Curry: by creating more Lindsey
49:05
Unknown: from the Iranian regime? I am confident this was
49:08
planned and funded by the Iranians. Hamas is a bunch of
49:11
animals who deserve to be treated like animals. So if I
49:16
was Israel, I would go in on the ground. There is no truce to be
49:19
had here. I would dismantle Hamas. This is the best
49:23
opportunity Israel has to destroy Hamas. Take it to the
49:27
Iranians. If you harm one American in Syria by using your
49:31
Iranian militia against us in Syria, to escalate an area
49:35
urging Hezbollah to attack Israel in the north, if Hamas
49:39
kills one American Israeli hostage, we're going to blow up
49:43
your oil refineries and put you out of business. It is now time
49:46
to take the war to the ayatollahs backyard.
49:49
Adam Curry: I mean, he's channeling Bush now.
49:51
John C Dvorak: They know he made handling McCain.
49:54
Adam Curry: Well, but yeah, of
49:55
John C Dvorak: course if and if you remember, I wish we could
49:57
find a clip where we can. Of course, of course We have
50:00
Barbara and sewing as bom bom bom bom bom Irfan
50:05
Adam Curry: I'm sure we have it
50:07
John C Dvorak: we do have it is this God knows what it's called.
50:10
Yeah no this is all
50:12
Unknown: bomb bomb Iran bom bom bom bom bom I
50:19
Adam Curry: think it's our own version. I like it.
50:28
Unknown: Bom bom bom bom bom Moran. Yeah.
50:35
John C Dvorak: So the ghost of John McCain.
50:38
Adam Curry: He's still with us. He's
50:38
John C Dvorak: still with us. And he's being channeled through
50:41
Lindsey Graham now if you
50:43
Adam Curry: think that was good and who is his buddy and just as
50:46
an aside, this is exactly what we talked about this has always
50:49
been on the radar. This is pure evil that exists in the West,
50:54
not even one group of people is just evil that is taken over.
50:58
And they these people don't actually care about dead
51:01
Israelis or dead Palestinians. They don't care about any of
51:04
that. They don't care about you. They don't care about me. They
51:06
just care about the programming they have in their brain to just
51:11
bomb stuff more money getting into the markets, we need stuff
51:15
to happen. This is what we live for.
51:17
Unknown: What I would do is I would bomb a Ron's all
51:20
infrastructure, the money financing terrorism. This is on
51:24
CNN now comes from Iran. It's time for this terrorist state to
51:28
pay a price for financing and supporting all this chaos. Yes,
51:33
if you're the Iranians, if we're up to me, this war escalates.
51:37
I'm coming after you.
51:38
I think this is what I'm trying to clarify here. Because I'm
51:41
wondering, listen,
51:43
Israel, US and Israel, is
51:44
the United States. Crystal clear The United States. Let me just
51:50
let me just understand you.
51:53
John C Dvorak: What was the point of that he
51:55
Adam Curry: has no he he's telegraphing that we aren't
52:00
going to do it. It's US and Israel, Israel, Israel, but
52:03
okay. And the telegraphing is we're going to give them all the
52:08
stuff, Bibi is going to pull the trigger, someone's going to pull
52:11
there's not going to be us. Now we want Israel
52:17
John C Dvorak: to throw that in because he forgot to do that
52:19
earlier. Yes. You
52:20
Unknown: forgot, drill us in Israel, the United States.
52:24
Crystal clear in the United.
52:25
Adam Curry: Let me just let me join operations. That was
52:28
exactly what Trump was talking about when when Bibi pulled out
52:32
of the joint operation. Isn't that interesting. But he's
52:35
clear. It's clear. Now I
52:36
Unknown: understand you. Just to be clear, you're saying that you
52:39
would want the United States and Israel to bomb Iran, even in the
52:43
absence of direct evidence of their involvement in this
52:47
attack? Hey, yeah, so
52:53
Adam Curry: what evidence, evidence Come on? Everybody
52:58
knows this. Yeah.
53:02
Unknown: If there's an escalation, Abby, there's
53:05
people's throats being cut on television, as Israel goes into
53:10
Gaza.
53:11
Adam Curry: She's already telling us what the what the
53:13
nightly programming is going to be. It's as if he knows Oh, if
53:18
we start seeing people's throats getting slit on television, wow,
53:22
tick tock, maybe television really, really, they haven't
53:25
shown much on television, or shown anything. Please don't
53:29
email us. We've seen that we've seen
53:31
John C Dvorak: Okay, now we got to telegraph account. Don't
53:33
worry about we have a telegraph but
53:36
Adam Curry: he is telegraphing. He is telegraphing what we're
53:40
going to see.
53:40
Unknown: Yeah. So if there's an escalation, Abby, if there's
53:45
pappy throats being cut until How is
53:47
Adam Curry: people's throat being cut on television
53:49
escalation of anything, but the mainstream media is not an
53:53
escalation of the atrocities? No, I mean,
53:58
John C Dvorak: no, I know exactly what you mean. He's
54:00
just, he's gotta be he's got a script. He's going by I don't
54:03
know where it came from who's delivered it? But it's always
54:07
well, of course, again, I like I'll say it again, it came.
54:11
We're behind. we're way behind on that. On that on the west
54:16
Clarke seven. Yep. And things are time is running out on this
54:21
Iran deal. So they're either going to have to do they got to
54:23
take action now because this is the last bit and if Trump comes
54:26
back in office, which is possible, not gonna happen,
54:28
won't happen. Not gonna happen. So they mean something will
54:31
happen. But we will be that which
54:33
Adam Curry: is exactly why Brooks and Dawn are over there
54:35
saying, oh, it'd be horrible if Trump came back in Oh, no,
54:39
because then we won't be able to bomb Iran. So I know Iranians,
54:44
by Iranian friends.
54:47
Unknown: If there's an escalation Abby, if there's Pam
54:51
throats being cut on television, as Israel goes in Gaza, and
54:56
they're threatening to kill the hostages of Hezbollah, As
55:00
unleashed on Israel in the north, it will be because Iran
55:04
is supporting that. If you don't get the connection between Iran
55:09
and this terrorist activity by Hamas and Hezbollah, you're
55:12
missing a lot. This is a terrorist state that has
55:15
American blood on its hands. It is now time to dismantle the
55:19
financing system of terrorism. If this war escalates, yes, I
55:24
would do to joint military operation joint I tell the
55:27
Iranians today, if the war escalates, you will pay a price
55:30
you will be out of that all business want to be crystal
55:33
clear? And if we don't,
55:34
Adam Curry: that's interesting. You'll be out of the oil
55:36
business, the oil before business, are they still in the
55:40
oil business?
55:41
John C Dvorak: Or did they trip up, though tripped the clip by
55:44
played from Trump starts off with him talking about the fact
55:49
that they went from nothing to let allowing him to produce oil
55:53
to the tune of 80 to $100 billion in profits war in Iran.
55:59
All day, I would like you to play the just the beginning of
56:03
this again, because this is the
56:06
Adam Curry: which one is that which is the clip.
56:12
John C Dvorak: I think it's the BB background. But no, it's the
56:16
unedited comments just right. The very beginning. He's talking
56:19
about Iran
56:20
Unknown: for $6 billion was a tremendous amount of money, but
56:23
nothing compared to the hundreds of billions of dollars that
56:26
Biden allowed them to make and oil and other things hundreds
56:30
and 1000s it became a rich nation.
56:32
Adam Curry: Oh, yes. Yes, yes. Yes. Yes. Good catch. Trump's
56:37
John C Dvorak: blaming it on Biden. Yeah. More because they
56:40
loosened up some restrictions, of course, sanctions.
56:44
Unknown: If the war escalation will pay a price, you will be
56:47
either all of this.
56:48
Adam Curry: Do we? Did we ever get those hostages back, by the
56:51
way, which was the ones that we paid $6 billion for? Have they
56:57
been interviewed? Or have they been on 60 minutes have been
57:00
this would be a big deal? I mean, these are each person's
57:03
about a billion bucks. Should we be talking to them
57:06
John C Dvorak: to remember there was hostages involved in this
57:09
deal? Yeah, that's
57:10
Adam Curry: guess the $6 billion was to get hostages back from
57:14
Iran.
57:16
John C Dvorak: Iran? Oh, that's right. There was a few
57:18
prisoners. Yeah,
57:19
Adam Curry: prisoners. Alright. Do we do we? Do we know even who
57:21
that what their names are? If they'd been on television? I
57:24
mean,
57:25
John C Dvorak: their names or their CIA names? Thank you.
57:27
Unknown: If the war escalates, you will pay a price you will be
57:30
either or business. Want to be crystal clear on that? And if we
57:33
don't do that, what do you expect to happen in the future?
57:36
Do you expect Israel to forgive and forget? Biden did mention
57:41
one word about Iran today and I want to support the president.
57:44
I'm supporting the Saudi Israel peace deal. Israel made peaceful
57:48
several Arab countries through their Abraham Rickroll course. I
57:52
want to help the Palestinians we can do business with as part of
57:55
a Saudi Israel peace deal, but I'm tired of letting Iran I
58:00
think they did this to stop the Saudi Arab peace negotiations.
58:04
The Iranians, I don't want to reward them I want to punish
58:07
them.
58:08
Adam Curry: Now that he says that I think that's bull crap,
58:11
too. But this month Oh, they did this to stop the peace
58:14
negotiations really? Really think that Iran just I mean, is
58:19
it true Iran just wants death and destruction?
58:24
John C Dvorak: Bring back a tweet I mentioned in the
58:25
newsletter somebody posted which was about it seems a little
58:31
weird. That on the 50th anniversary of the famous Yamba
58:37
Kapoor award, the 50th anniversary debt the debt Israel
58:42
let down their guard.
58:44
Adam Curry: Yes, see? Seems like we you know, did you remember
58:47
odd? Did you read Seymour Hersh his
58:50
John C Dvorak: piece? No, no, I didn't know what he did. What'd
58:53
he say this time so
58:54
Adam Curry: it was also the Sukkot celebration. But yeah, so
58:58
I'm gonna reading verbatim from his just reading a paragraph or
59:01
two. The so called celebration near Palestinian village, known
59:04
in Hebrew is how it should need would need extra ordinary
59:08
protection given the tension over the latest violence and the
59:11
local Israeli military authorities with the approval of
59:13
Netanyahu ordered two of the three army battalions each with
59:17
about 800 soldiers that protected the border with Gaza
59:20
to shift their focus to the so called festival that left only
59:24
800 soldiers the insider told me to be responsible for guarding
59:28
the 51 kilometer border between the Gaza Strip and southern
59:31
Israel. That meant the Israeli citizens in the South were left
59:35
without an Israeli military military presence for 10 to 12
59:39
hours. They were left to fend for themselves. And that is why
59:42
Bibi is finished. It may take a few months but he's over. Now.
59:45
I'm jumping ahead because I want to get to that because I have
59:47
some other things that play into that. But first we need to
59:51
listen to Lindsey Graham. He's just I mean, you could do a
59:56
super In fact, I'll probably get a super cut. So now he got I was
1:00:00
done with crystal meth and he lays out this plan.
1:00:02
Unknown: Listen to me now and listen to me good. We should,
1:00:06
without lubricant, go into Gaza from behind. I know it sounds
1:00:10
brutal, but we need to penetrate them blow our loads. And then
1:00:14
subsequently Plowshares ai i love it. Actually, if we stay
1:00:21
inside for an extended period of time because we need to make
1:00:24
sure that the deed is done. I have been an expert on this
1:00:29
subject for many years. And I think now is the time to act.
1:00:33
Adam Curry: That's AI obviously, but I thought it was fun fun to
1:00:36
play.
1:00:36
John C Dvorak: It is was the AI is getting funnier. Yeah. The
1:00:39
problem, of course, is that if you don't listen to our show,
1:00:42
and you don't know or super skeptical about everything, you
1:00:47
will be susceptible to some AI shenanigans. But
1:00:51
Adam Curry: the whole point of good AI is that you catch on and
1:00:55
it's funny. I mean, otherwise it just no good.
1:00:57
John C Dvorak: Most people can't do that and lizard kind of
1:01:00
training. You have trained ears. I don't believe that 90% of the
1:01:05
people that would hear that 90 wouldn't buy into it.
1:01:10
Adam Curry: No, come on. It's like yeah, we gotta
1:01:12
John C Dvorak: say that, but
1:01:16
Adam Curry: that's fine. That's fine. Now before I get to the
1:01:19
Netanyahu bid, just one more just as its global, the whole
1:01:22
Iran focus, as we suspected, yea perhaps predicted is everywhere
1:01:28
as let's go to the European arm of the CIA propaganda machine
1:01:33
toyed chavalla with some think tank aihole
1:01:36
Unknown: for its incursion, Hamas has used 1000s of drones
1:01:39
and rockets and carried out cyber attacks. The conflict has
1:01:42
raised questions as to how the group is able to finance these
1:01:46
complex attacks.
1:01:48
Adam Curry: They've done cyber attacks. This is news to me.
1:01:52
Every cyber attack is always Russia. Now Hamas has done North
1:01:57
Korea. Now Hamas has done cyber attacks, very complex seems
1:02:01
unlikely. Well, it's the CIA come on these or whatever
1:02:06
Unknown: questions as to how the group is able to finance these
1:02:09
complex attacks. Israeli retaliation also has enormous
1:02:13
costs for the economy of the Gaza Strip, which is under Hamas
1:02:16
rule. Joining me for this conversation is Matthew Levitt.
1:02:20
He's the director of the program on counterterrorism and
1:02:22
intelligence at the Washington Institute for Near East Policy.
1:02:27
Adam Curry: Oh, goodness, I mean, you know exactly what this
1:02:30
is. We need a gig like that. I want to be at the National
1:02:33
Institute for terror Near East Institute,
1:02:37
John C Dvorak: something up like that, and probably do as well as
1:02:39
we're doing for the show, or better
1:02:40
Unknown: East policy, has been using drones, cyber attacks and
1:02:45
rockets against Israel. Where is it getting the funding for these
1:02:50
weapons from
1:02:51
Adam Curry: a where's it getting? Hello, hello, Think
1:02:53
Tank guy, Hamas and Hezbollah things in the background? Why
1:02:57
what I'm just out of curiosity, do you have any idea where
1:03:03
they're getting the funding for these cyber attacks? Could you
1:03:07
Could I'm at a loss, what could it be
1:03:10
Unknown: moss is funding streams have changed over the years in
1:03:13
particular, in 2007, when Hamas took over the Gaza Strip by
1:03:18
force of arms, pointing its guns not at Israel In that instance,
1:03:22
Israel had already withdrawn but against Palestinians, once it
1:03:25
controlled territory, it was able to tax some might say
1:03:28
extort the local population. And that is its primary source of
1:03:34
income right now. The second most important source of income
1:03:39
and this is something that has been consistent over decades
1:03:42
since the founding of Hamas in the late 1980s. US government
1:03:45
estimates that Iran provides some us somewhere between 70 and
1:03:49
$100 million a year, probably additional funds and moments of
1:03:54
crisis like this. And that has been constant. That is money
1:03:58
that is in kind that is weapons there is on top of that
1:04:01
training, intelligence support, etc.
1:04:04
Adam Curry: Okay, so it's clear who we need to go after because
1:04:06
Iran is the problem. It's not a bunch of nut jobs known as
1:04:10
Hamas, who are just blood thirsty. We don't even have to
1:04:13
talk about the genesis of that. We've done that. But it's all
1:04:17
her right. It's all about Iran. It's all about Iran. Now. We get
1:04:20
to Bibi Netanyahu and another player that we haven't really we
1:04:23
haven't played paid any attention to this woman. So my
1:04:28
initial and I think yours will be one of the initial who
1:04:31
benefits from this. Well, you know, Biden benefits as a war
1:04:34
president Hunter Biden benefits the NGOs who are flowing asylum
1:04:41
seekers into every Western country in the world. They
1:04:45
benefit don't look at our border. Look at that one. Look
1:04:48
at that. 51 kilometer. Now, look at that board. That board over
1:04:50
there that board, don't look at Ukraine. Don't look at any of
1:04:53
this stuff. So a whole bunch of people the end machinery
1:04:58
benefits and the military industrial comp everyone
1:05:00
benefits benefits benefits Wall Street's gonna benefit everybody
1:05:04
the oil guys are gonna benefit are benefiting my friend paid
1:05:07
for dinner so I know he's benefiting but but Netanyahu had
1:05:13
this huge problem and I think we need to revisit this it's
1:05:16
controversial because we have understood this from many people
1:05:20
boots on the ground no agenda producers that the Supreme Court
1:05:25
I'm just I'm just gonna use the simple version Supreme Court of
1:05:28
Israel, Israel Israel they have precedence over the parliament
1:05:34
but over the government they can say, you know, we don't like
1:05:38
this law or this run of the blue, they can do it whenever
1:05:41
they
1:05:41
John C Dvorak: will slightly different than our Supreme Court
1:05:43
which has to have it presented to them through the court
1:05:45
system.
1:05:46
Adam Curry: Yes. And then here, it's just um, yeah, we don't
1:05:48
like what you did.
1:05:49
John C Dvorak: Key Exactly. Yeah, it's pretty. And it's
1:05:52
really
1:05:52
Adam Curry: also filled with an app going on a limb because I'm
1:05:56
not really schooled in it. But in Israel, you have Ashkenazi
1:05:59
Jews and Sarfati I think is Sephardi Jews, which would be
1:06:02
like my 40 Sephardic, like my buddy Benco Han, who wouldn't go
1:06:07
dark all have dark skin, then and in the Supreme Court is
1:06:10
pretty much all the white Jews, the Ashkenazi Jews and their
1:06:14
leaders and their woke stirs. And they're just like, the
1:06:17
liberal, the nut jobs here in the United States.
1:06:21
John C Dvorak: Yeah. And,
1:06:22
Adam Curry: you know, they're like, Yeah, you know, everything
1:06:24
LGBTQ, you know, everything's all good. It's all beautiful.
1:06:27
You know, we could you know, you know, don't just the whole
1:06:29
thing, everything is It's identical. And Bibi Netanyahu,
1:06:33
who I've always considered to be very sketchy guy, I said, sketch
1:06:38
them very sketch says, I'm gonna retract that. I'm both. I've
1:06:42
always been skeptical about the guy. He's like, Yeah, go it. But
1:06:45
we've been programmed to think he's a criminal. He's a
1:06:48
gangster, he's no good. He's a war monger. He was voted in by
1:06:52
Democratic vote, if you trust elections, to change with one
1:06:56
mandate to change the judicial system, so that the people of
1:07:01
Israel would feel like they actually have a say, and not
1:07:04
just this star pushed around by the judiciary. Yes, this
1:07:08
Starfleet Command. And so what happened was, and this is Sir
1:07:12
Brian of London has said these riots that were ongoing that had
1:07:17
been going on since his election, and all of these, all
1:07:21
of the accusations and their, they hate gays, and they're
1:07:26
corrupt, and they're horrible people, he says is pretty much
1:07:30
identical to Trump and Black Lives Matter. And that these
1:07:34
protests are, you know, and so all professional signs and
1:07:37
people are getting riled up and the military is getting
1:07:40
involved. But it was it's been led by a very interesting woman
1:07:45
named Sheikh my Bressler thinks she's 4142. Good looking. She
1:07:52
actually started the Black Flag protest earlier, which is much
1:07:56
more black lives matter related, but she led this protest. She's
1:07:59
a physical that a particle physicist from CERN. But somehow
1:08:04
she got drafted into the to being the leader of this
1:08:08
protest. And I could not find it. But she apparently somewhere
1:08:14
along the line said, you know, this Netanyahu, you better give
1:08:17
it up. Something bad's gonna happen. end of September, I've
1:08:20
been looking for that quote. Because that would kind of that
1:08:22
would close the loop. But she was interviewed by The Times of
1:08:27
Israel. And I just pulled a couple of clips because I have a
1:08:31
feeling that this protest cannot be isolated from what happened
1:08:38
by the lapse in security, as certainly maybe the lack of
1:08:42
response from the military. And the fact that Seymour Hersh, who
1:08:46
we I hold him pretty in high regard. Seymour Hersh says this
1:08:50
guy's finished, he's done. This might have been a plan to get
1:08:56
rid of Netanyahu that perhaps they misjudged, and it went too
1:09:00
far. Here's a little bit of this interview with Schick, my
1:09:04
Bressler so she come
1:09:06
Unknown: I asked you What matters now. Maybe it will sound
1:09:10
a bit dramatic. But what matters now is really to
1:09:14
Adam Curry: say I'm sorry, I should say this interview is
1:09:16
from March of this year. Just coincidentally, the same time
1:09:20
Biden did that executive order with the security change, but
1:09:23
I'm not necessarily connecting those two, it'd be actually
1:09:27
Unknown: sound a bit dramatic. But what matters now is really
1:09:31
to save the Israeli democracy to save the state and nation of
1:09:34
Israel. I as part of my duties and job in Weitzman and being
1:09:39
part of a huge international collaboration. I do talk to many
1:09:43
people from abroad. And what is clear to me is that people do
1:09:48
not aware of the dramatic things that are happening these days in
1:09:53
Israel. And the fact that if we will discuss it in a month from
1:09:56
now we could be already beyond the point of no return for What
1:10:00
people need to take away out of this conversation and not wait
1:10:04
to the end of it is to understand that we are now these
1:10:06
days facing a yield curve in the sense that if we are not able to
1:10:13
stop what is going on at the moment, in a couple of weeks,
1:10:17
days, maybe Israeli will no longer be a democracy. And then
1:10:22
once the point of no return has passed, it will take decades to
1:10:27
get back from this point. And maybe it will not even be
1:10:30
possible. And I know it sounds dramatic, but it is dramatic.
1:10:34
But this is the circumstances, this is what matters now. I
1:10:39
think that people are not really digesting, fully digesting what
1:10:42
is going on. And it is dramatic. And it's happening now.
1:10:46
Adam Curry: The only thing she didn't say was existential
1:10:48
crisis. That's the only thing that was missing from that. And
1:10:51
by the way, it's
1:10:51
John C Dvorak: very similar to the Trump is a threat to
1:10:55
democracy somehow.
1:10:56
Adam Curry: Yes. And I realized that my sources are limited. But
1:10:59
I'm just giving you this. My view may be different. On
1:11:03
Thursday, it'll
1:11:03
John C Dvorak: develop Don't
1:11:05
Adam Curry: worry, yeah. But people like
1:11:10
John C Dvorak: that kind of same guy.
1:11:11
Adam Curry: So. So then, in this next bit from the interview, she
1:11:16
says something that catches my ear, and my ears perk up,
1:11:19
because I've heard this somewhere else, listen to this.
1:11:22
Unknown: How could you just to play devil's advocate? How could
1:11:25
you possibly when the government coalition will pass the overhaul
1:11:30
builds? Because it can, it's in power, it will do that? So what
1:11:35
is a win for you? So first of all, some extent we are already
1:11:39
a winning maybe we are winning a battle, but not the entire
1:11:43
world. But you have to understand it's a try. If you
1:11:45
look at the the changes that opened in Hungary in the last
1:11:50
decade, and you when you make the new when you compare it to
1:11:54
what is being done here, they try to do what Obama did in a
1:11:57
decade in Hungary to do here in two months. As I said, it's not
1:12:01
just one law that they are trying to pass, but it's more
1:12:05
than 120 loads that are being really ambushed on on us. And
1:12:12
this will probably not happen the way that they want they
1:12:15
start to tell going to you know, to do this legislation and they
1:12:19
will be done with it in no time. No no defense. And then now they
1:12:25
need to change that. So they're calling back a lot of they're
1:12:30
seeing and only focusing on this committee for the election of
1:12:34
judges, which is the core thing if you go back again to hunger
1:12:37
you will see is that this is how all been started by taking
1:12:41
control over the judicial the courts and the judges so they
1:12:46
are focusing on that. So when
1:12:48
Adam Curry: I heard this I'm like what Orban committed a coup
1:12:53
in Hungary and overthrew the judiciary and the country's calm
1:13:00
and orderly and people seem to be happy there. Did I miss
1:13:06
something that he's a dictator
1:13:10
John C Dvorak: may have been pushing the Orban being a
1:13:13
dictator the left has for at least the entire
1:13:18
Adam Curry: or ban the guy who would not mandate vaccines who
1:13:21
would not eat
1:13:23
John C Dvorak: or Bond started the problem by blocking the
1:13:27
didn't do initial wave of refugees from the Middle East.
1:13:30
Yeah, back 10 years ago yes. Or Bond threw up defenses and said
1:13:35
no.
1:13:36
Adam Curry: And the people of Hungary have seem to be happy
1:13:39
with him. I have seen protests.
1:13:42
John C Dvorak: I don't want to say you know, bring this guy
1:13:45
into the picture but it's as you recall, Tucker went there and
1:13:50
hung out with him and Jed tried to look around for some sort of
1:13:53
problem and could find nothing Orban did take on the judiciary
1:13:58
which did have an issue that with the I don't know this is
1:14:02
like nuts. Okay,
1:14:04
Adam Curry: so when this triggered me I went whoa, hold
1:14:06
on a second hold on
1:14:07
John C Dvorak: or bonds anti globalist Yeah, obviously this
1:14:10
woman is globalist and this is the word this what we're dealing
1:14:14
with now somehow.
1:14:15
Adam Curry: So now three weeks ago, 60 minutes does an
1:14:19
interview with three Israeli IDF soldiers they're in uniform. One
1:14:26
is a helicopter pilot one is and that's the she was always sexy.
1:14:32
female combat chopper pilot lesbian. Does it get any better
1:14:36
than that? The other one is special forces. And I forget
1:14:40
what the third was. And they're just talking about how horrible
1:14:44
Netanyahu is. It's the same topic three weeks ago. Listen to
1:14:48
this
1:14:48
Unknown: head of national security has had multiple
1:14:51
convictions, including supporting terrorism against
1:14:55
Arabs. The finance minister is a self described fascist.
1:15:00
homophobe. As for Netanyahu, he is in the midst of three
1:15:04
separate trials on charges of corruption. The protesters say
1:15:09
that laws his government has introduced over 200 of them
1:15:14
would not only weaken the courts, but control the press
1:15:17
and diminish individual rights. And that this is how democracies
1:15:21
like Hungary became autocratic.
1:15:24
What's happened in Hungary and Poland will not happen here.
1:15:28
There is a trend and it's going against you. Around the World.
1:15:33
We'll be the first to stop it. You're all determined.
1:15:37
We are not joking. We are really trying to stop it and we will
1:15:42
succeed.
1:15:43
One of the big worries is that without a strong Supreme Court,
1:15:48
the ultra orthodox block and the government could turn Israel
1:15:52
into a theocracy where biblical laws prevail.
1:15:57
Our Supreme Court is our last line of defense. And this is our
1:16:00
last safeguard. We need them empowered. We need them
1:16:04
independent, that what we fight for
1:16:07
what is at stake for women, Shira,
1:16:09
that will be sitting in the back of the bus. Literally,
1:16:12
literally. Are you married? I'm married to a woman, a doctor. We
1:16:19
have a daughter, she's one year and eight months.
1:16:22
Her fear of an assault on women's and gay rights is well
1:16:26
founded. A government member said the gay community is more
1:16:31
dangerous than ISIS and Hezbollah.
1:16:33
Adam Curry: Oh crap. For some reason. I must have cut out the
1:16:36
bit worse. They talk about Poland Hungary. No, I heard it.
1:16:41
Oh, it was in there. I completely missed it. Hello.
1:16:44
Sorry. I just thought it came. You know,
1:16:45
John C Dvorak: they mentioned both countries as as autocratic
1:16:48
countries. Yes. Polar. I'm giving you a clip of the day for
1:16:51
digging that baby out of the woods.
1:16:57
Unknown: ever done? Oh, no,
1:16:58
Adam Curry: no, no. This is by this is truly mine. It's not
1:17:02
coincidence. I know who gave it to me. I know who does this.
1:17:06
It's It's Supernatural. So I get this clip. And I'm like, Whoa,
1:17:12
this is the same talking point. Poland Poland. same
1:17:15
John C Dvorak: talking points. I exactly. And it's interesting,
1:17:18
because it kind of parallels the queers for Palestine movement.
1:17:22
Yep. Which I, which I highlighted in the newsletter,
1:17:25
and people should go read the newsletter and click on the
1:17:28
link, or just go to Google or duck duck go, which is what I
1:17:33
use at queers for Palestine and start reading what's going on in
1:17:37
Israel with the game movement there. And the symbiosis with
1:17:42
Palace Steen and the fact that they're all you know, they, it's
1:17:46
just very strange. And I think it's part of that I think with a
1:17:50
clip you just played is part of queers for Palestine.
1:17:54
Adam Curry: So the problem is that they said, We're not going
1:17:57
to let it happen, we will do what it takes. And then here go,
1:18:03
but going back to schema, the leader of this movement,
1:18:06
Unknown: so I think that if, as I said, if this laws will pass,
1:18:11
by definition, the Israeli court system will be underneath the
1:18:18
political system, the government, by definition, it's
1:18:21
not a Democratic democracy anymore. And then we'll have to
1:18:26
you know, we will wake up one day for something completely
1:18:29
different than what we were used to, I think that then then what
1:18:33
we will see here is that the country conditions fall, you
1:18:36
know, goes down quickly, you you we heard yesterday, large groups
1:18:42
from the reserve army unit saying that if this happens,
1:18:46
they will not they will not they will not serve a dictatorship,
1:18:50
they will only that we are here we all took our oath to protect
1:18:54
the democratic a Jewish democratic country and not a
1:18:57
dictator. I think that we see it already we will be affected
1:19:02
economically, very dramatically will be affected basically, in
1:19:05
every aspect, it may not be happening in one day, but But
1:19:10
again, if you look at countries that went down the throats or
1:19:13
condition, and then it will be a huge and a long battle, which
1:19:17
will which you know, we will all be losing, but but it will be it
1:19:24
will be awful, to be awful.
1:19:26
Adam Curry: So she says right there, that reservists army will
1:19:30
not defend a dictator. They will not defend, I presume Israel.
1:19:37
And I'm just putting a couple things together here. It was
1:19:41
like, Do you think it's possible that that they thought, well,
1:19:45
you know, we'll let some we'll let some terrorists come in and
1:19:48
do a little
1:19:48
John C Dvorak: one. They tore down that fence with bulldozers
1:19:52
and nobody did anything or even took a shot at them. That was
1:19:56
extremely suspicious if you asked me They bring bulldozers
1:20:01
up to the fence, and just night the fence over when nobody does
1:20:05
it. And when you have
1:20:06
Adam Curry: when you have the crowd, just like Black Lives
1:20:09
Matter when you have the crowd program, this is an existential
1:20:12
crisis. You don't know what people are capable of doing or
1:20:17
not doing. So if everyone's been this, I mean, you don't see it
1:20:21
much on M five M here. But in this research, I've been looking
1:20:25
at some of the video these protests, you know, getting
1:20:28
pretty rowdy.
1:20:29
John C Dvorak: So there are and monstrous or monstrous protests.
1:20:33
Adam Curry: And so if if there's like, Okay, this is existential
1:20:37
to the democracy and the survival of us here in Israel,
1:20:42
Israel L, then it's, it's not unthinkable that this could have
1:20:48
been, at, at minimum, just let go. And then they underestimated
1:20:56
how ready or how bad it would be Hamas was or how bad it would
1:21:01
be. I mean,
1:21:02
John C Dvorak: they could have estimated how they
1:21:05
underestimated how bad would be, which but if we take this line
1:21:09
of thinking, which nobody wants to do, no, because it's very
1:21:12
unpopular and very busy gonna get more letters to Adam, that
1:21:15
he has to read on the next show. Horrible letters. But if you
1:21:20
take that line of thinking and take it to its logical extreme,
1:21:24
Iran is not involved.
1:21:26
Adam Curry: Very possible, very possible, and Hezbollah
1:21:29
John C Dvorak: won't come down. I mean, we already played the
1:21:32
clips from the last show on that on the Hezbollah's as presented
1:21:35
by LG zero, which is a representative cutter. So you're
1:21:39
gonna get something that's, you know, cutter, and these other
1:21:42
Arab niches don't want to make this into a big deal because
1:21:45
they're gonna get killed. And so the Israelis have shot into
1:21:52
Lebanon from that area where Hezbollah would come in, and
1:21:56
there's no evidence that they're going to come in and they
1:21:58
probably won't.
1:22:00
Adam Curry: They don't have to, for us to go bomb them.
1:22:03
John C Dvorak: Don't have to not if you got Lindsey Graham,
1:22:06
Adam Curry: that's you got him on your side. So I my my eyes
1:22:10
are on schema Bresler. She's, it's baffling, baffling, that
1:22:15
they pull this physical partisan particle physicist from CERN
1:22:21
into this and she becomes this hero. I mean, I'm almost
1:22:24
thinking, Is she going to be the next prime minister? Do we have
1:22:28
a new goldmine? Err on our hands?
1:22:31
John C Dvorak: Who is this woman? I'm looking at her wiki
1:22:33
page. I've looked at looked her up. Who is she? Who is behind
1:22:37
her? You don't she didn't do this on her own. I don't care
1:22:41
what anybody would like to think.
1:22:43
Adam Curry: Well, she's at the Weitzman Institute of Science.
1:22:48
And I've been searching to find out I mean, she was married to
1:22:53
the guide died. Eight ton vert Heimer, which I haven't, it's
1:22:58
very hard to find information on her. She's in that regard. It
1:23:03
was a little like, huh, let me see. You billionaire
1:23:06
businessman. Okay. He was one of Israel's wealthiest men. Okay,
1:23:11
here we go. He died in 2022. Did he? Seven years old. One of
1:23:20
Israel's wealthiest men after us tycoon Warren Buffett bought a
1:23:24
controlling share in his company. Oh, now this makes for
1:23:28
a little more interesting.
1:23:32
John C Dvorak: Read on
1:23:33
Adam Curry: as a philanthropist Wertheimer was an ardent
1:23:35
supporter of Israeli Palestinian businesses and peace
1:23:38
initiatives. He founded Erez college in the northern town of
1:23:42
Shlomi and the experimental school of toughen industrial
1:23:46
park that's all I have on this particular article. So she is a
1:23:53
probably loaded and she comes from the fear in urine you're on
1:24:00
that level. Then you know you've got you're connected. She just
1:24:05
connected she's connected. Me see this car metalworking sold
1:24:12
it to Buffett for 6 billion. Hmm, I don't know. What is this?
1:24:19
Oh, he was an IDF. I know that. I mean, this is where I got
1:24:22
stuck. This is this is what you look at Chick Ma. M she's got
1:24:26
leader written all over her. Neo lib tard leader but she's got
1:24:30
leader
1:24:31
John C Dvorak: reminding me because of the nature of the
1:24:35
jobs woman.
1:24:37
Adam Curry: Oh, yeah. Yeah.
1:24:39
John C Dvorak: You know, he's got a wife and Lauren. Lauren.
1:24:42
Adam Curry: Lauren. What's
1:24:44
John C Dvorak: your jobs?
1:24:45
Adam Curry: Lawrence? Their middle name. That's important.
1:24:47
We
1:24:48
John C Dvorak: forgot anyway, she ends up inheriting Disney.
1:24:52
She basically runs she owns the Disney Corporation for all
1:24:56
practical purposes, the major shareholder, and all this other
1:24:59
end Just nothing but money and and stock. And she's I don't
1:25:05
know what her background is but she was she Powell Jobs Lauren
1:25:08
Powell Yeah. Lauren Lauren Powell Jobs. She was she's super
1:25:14
ultra super, I would say naive liberal. And she puts all her
1:25:18
money toward liberal causes and pushes things in that direction,
1:25:21
which is nothing jobs would have done this is interesting.
1:25:25
Adam Curry: March 23 2020, stays around the same time this
1:25:28
interview the same month of the change of the technology
1:25:31
Bressler was detained by police during one of the many Dave
1:25:34
disruption protests held across Israel, Israel. She was later
1:25:37
released former minute Prime Minister and protest leader Ehud
1:25:40
Barak, part of the West exec lobbying firm that brought in
1:25:46
the new software tweeted the Breathless arrest was
1:25:49
dictatorship and action. There's too many connections here. I
1:25:54
mean, I'm just I need some red yarn, people. I need to connect
1:25:59
this on my wall.
1:26:01
John C Dvorak: So we've got plenty of Arabs that listen to
1:26:05
the show. There are plenty of spooks that listen to the show.
1:26:10
I'm sure plenty of military guys to listen to the show. Can
1:26:13
someone share? Share besides Seymour Hersh, who probably is
1:26:20
digging into his into this as we speak? Yeah, I think there's
1:26:25
something going on. As
1:26:30
Adam Curry: as usual. As usual, yes. Then, of course, here in
1:26:35
the United States, everyone loses their crap. And it's very
1:26:40
similar. What happened here, particularly amongst the
1:26:43
universities was interesting. There is such a I mean, everyone
1:26:49
jumping on the end, it's all around the world actually.
1:26:52
Jumping on the pro Palestine where is Roger Waters I keep
1:26:55
waiting for him to leave. He's the guy that's always been anti
1:26:59
Israel Pro. You know, boycott divest and been another be Meo.
1:27:06
Why Why don't the interview him? It's the guy I want to hear from
1:27:09
right now. I want to hear what he thinks.
1:27:12
John C Dvorak: Yeah, well, it'd be nice. I have two clips I want
1:27:15
to play. This is about US citizens stuck in Gaza. And the
1:27:19
reason I want to play these two clips because there's a kicker
1:27:21
at the end a clip to
1:27:23
Unknown: the State Department says the number of US citizens
1:27:25
killed in the Hamas attack on Israel has risen to at least 29
1:27:30
with 15 people listed as missing. This is Israel prepares
1:27:33
for unexpected ground incursion into Gaza, as dozens of
1:27:36
Americans there are trying to get out. They had hoped to
1:27:40
evacuate today, but they along with more than 2 million Gazans
1:27:43
without us passports remain trapped. Israel has imposed a
1:27:47
complete siege on Gaza, meaning no people, supplies or food are
1:27:51
allowed to come in or out. And here's Nina krupinski, has more.
1:27:55
Massachusetts resident of Budo Cole and his family waited at
1:27:59
the Rafah border crossing for hours Saturday hoping Egyptian
1:28:02
authorities would open the gate to let them out. He and other US
1:28:06
citizens trapped in Gaza were told by the US State Department
1:28:09
that the gate may open between noon and 5pm local time that
1:28:13
window has passed and the crossing remains closed. It's
1:28:16
just extremely frustrating. Oh call his wife and their one year
1:28:19
old baby will spend another night in Gaza
1:28:23
Adam Curry: was interesting little
1:28:24
John C Dvorak: sound. This is not about Americans in Israel.
1:28:28
This is about him. This whole piece was about his buck from
1:28:31
NPR by the way. This whole piece is about Americans in Gaza. Yes.
1:28:37
It was. I guess there's a ton of them there. And there's a kicker
1:28:41
at the end of this one which had me somewhat baffled
1:28:44
Unknown: US officials had been negotiating with Israel and
1:28:46
Egypt to open the border for Americans.
1:28:51
John C Dvorak: For Americans
1:28:52
Adam Curry: Yeah, screw the screw the power to everybody
1:28:55
John C Dvorak: else, which which is a sign of our as a nation of
1:29:00
our empire. And our empathy. The well they empathy screw that we
1:29:05
have empire and it's like you got that border down there. Open
1:29:10
it up for Americans Yeah. You can be sure that we're putting
1:29:16
pressure on the Egyptian Government to open that Southern
1:29:19
crossing that southern accent from Gaza for Americans let them
1:29:28
get let our Americans get out and then you get bombed you
1:29:30
humbled Hold on.
1:29:31
Adam Curry: That will in fact well as we heard from Lindsey
1:29:33
Graham is going to be slitting throats. Americans throats will
1:29:36
be slit an escalation of the violence and escalation anyway
1:29:42
so back back at home man you probably people in America
1:29:45
probably heard about the university signing statements
1:29:49
and me oh we hate Israel. We're all pro pro Palestinian cuz it's
1:29:56
crazy. Here's something from ABC Mrs. from Boston
1:29:59
Unknown: digital billboard parked right outside Harvard
1:30:01
University is attracting a lot of attention. The names and
1:30:04
faces of Harvard students, which we have blurred are displayed
1:30:09
under the title Harvard's leading anti Semites. The
1:30:12
students are allegedly those who signed on to a statement by the
1:30:15
student group Palestine Solidarity Committee, which read
1:30:18
in part, we hold the Israeli regime entirely responsible for
1:30:22
all unfolding violence, we're merely amplifying their message.
1:30:25
The man claiming responsibility for the truck says the Harvard
1:30:28
community should know who the students are, if
1:30:31
they're ashamed of what they did and want to apologize, we'll
1:30:33
remove them. If they're proud of what they did. They should thank
1:30:36
us don't
1:30:36
put these people on this screen because it puts them in danger.
1:30:39
But students like Jeremy Ornstein believe the trucks
1:30:42
message is only Adding to the tension on campus, Harvard Hillo
1:30:45
has already condemned this, the Jews of Harvard have already
1:30:48
condemned this and make clear it doesn't bring anything to the
1:30:50
discussion. And it actually brings greater harm and danger
1:30:53
to a lot of human beings who
1:30:54
are here at Harvard University increasing patrols in light of
1:30:58
the divide in an email to students, the school says we do
1:31:01
not condone or ignore intimidation, we do not condone
1:31:04
or ignore threats or acts of harassment or violence.
1:31:07
I know some of the fellow students on this camp on this
1:31:09
campus. And it just hurts my heart. Just see my fellow
1:31:12
friends going through this when they're just standing up for
1:31:14
what they believe that
1:31:15
this issue is very sensitive. And this is a very insensitive
1:31:19
way to portray these Harvard students.
1:31:21
Adam Curry: I don't believe I don't believe this for a second
1:31:23
that these people these anybody certainly in the United States,
1:31:27
certainly not at University has any context any knowledge, any
1:31:31
historical background in in what is happening.
1:31:34
John C Dvorak: Yes, particularly that particular group was
1:31:36
exposed by a couple of documentaries that there's two
1:31:40
groups and they're in they're paid directly from that 100
1:31:43
million dollar slush fund from Iran. And they are I think
1:31:48
there's 300 of them in the country at different
1:31:51
universities including Cal Berkeley, and it they I don't
1:31:57
know whether they know anything or not but they are paid to do
1:32:00
this and that's what they're doing
1:32:01
Adam Curry: and what happens is just like Black Lives Matter
1:32:04
without thought without investigation without any
1:32:07
critical analysis. Oh, I better do it. I better do what everyone
1:32:12
else is doing. You know, I bet this is the problem. Oh Rob, you
1:32:18
know it looks like everyone is off I bet I don't want to be the
1:32:21
guy on the on the wrong side of this argument then everyone's Oh
1:32:25
yeah. No classes let's go No, but that's that's really what's
1:32:33
happened these are sadly our our higher education institutions
1:32:38
have become a
1:32:39
John C Dvorak: well it's a higher educate the higher
1:32:41
educated you get the more boosters you get to so I don't
1:32:43
know if that tells you anything. Yeah, I do have one more
1:32:46
Palestine clip. I want to play more boosters, more boosters
1:32:51
more as you get a PhD, you get all of them. Okay. Speaking of
1:32:56
PhDs, but first let's play Palestine update. Okay.
1:33:01
Unknown: The day old truce between Israel and Hamas
1:33:03
militants appears to be holding after 11 days of fighting. Egypt
1:33:07
has provided a delegation to Israel in an effort to shore up
1:33:11
the truce. Martin Indyk is a former US Special Envoy for
1:33:15
Israeli Palestinian negotiations. Now with the
1:33:18
Council on Foreign Relations. He's not sure either
1:33:23
Adam Curry: party really wants Oh, did you edit that in?
1:33:29
Unknown: Now with the Council on Foreign Relations, he's not sure
1:33:34
either party really wants a peace deal.
1:33:37
on the Palestinian side. It's very hard to see how we could
1:33:40
work towards a final status agreement and on the Israeli
1:33:44
side. There looks like they're going into a fifth election.
1:33:48
They have a caretaker government. Netanyahu was trying
1:33:51
to
1:33:52
John C Dvorak: stop the clip. Oh, I'm sorry. This is a two
1:33:55
year old. I accidentally got put into my pile.
1:34:00
Adam Curry: An old classic no agenda gag. You got me. You got
1:34:04
me. You got me. You got me.
1:34:07
John C Dvorak: All right. Yes, this is from May 2020. Yeah, I'm
1:34:12
sorry. I apologize.
1:34:14
Adam Curry: In an odd way. I just want to play two more clips
1:34:16
and then we need to talk about higher education and PhDs.
1:34:20
There's this woman Esther Perell. And she is she has an
1:34:26
actual title here homeless seconds. She is here we go. Also
1:34:34
younger than she sounds that she's Belgian American
1:34:37
psychotherapist known for her work on human relationships. And
1:34:44
she sounds kind of like a woowoo person you have to Oprah. Oprah
1:34:48
loves her. But she attended the Hebrew University in Jerusalem.
1:34:54
And she's another cutie she could also have she could be in
1:34:58
that in that girl.
1:35:00
John C Dvorak: Amen. You're on to the Jewish cuties today,
1:35:02
Adam Curry: well she's not who she Jewish. Yes. Oh, she's the
1:35:06
daughter of two Polish Jewish Holocaust survivors. I must have
1:35:11
been. Okay. All right. So she shows up on my favorite hate
1:35:15
lists and pivot,
1:35:16
John C Dvorak: which she lists her name again.
1:35:18
Adam Curry: Esther Perell, p e r e, l, okay. And she shows up on
1:35:23
Pivot, my favorite hate listen. And she has a concept which I
1:35:28
kind of like, which is AI is artificial intimacy. Which I
1:35:33
liked, I liked I thought it was it was a good guy. And so I want
1:35:37
to first a minute on the artificial intimacy. And then
1:35:39
the clip that I think is pertinent to what's happening in
1:35:42
the universities and
1:35:43
Unknown: modern loneliness. The masks itself has hyper
1:35:47
connectivity. And so people have easily 1000 virtual friends that
1:35:53
no one can ask to feed their cat. And that loneliness that is
1:35:57
really a kind of depletion of the social capital is extremely
1:36:03
powerful. It's more to men than to women, but it's quite
1:36:06
generous. It's very important. I've been very interested in
1:36:10
talking about modern loneliness as it connects to the rise of
1:36:13
the other AI, artificial intimacy. How often do you find
1:36:17
yourself working the whole day on your laptop, then you can't
1:36:20
wait to close the screen, then you go home, but you're too
1:36:23
tired. And all you do is watch TV. Then while you watch TV,
1:36:26
you're also scrolling on your phone. Then while you're
1:36:28
scrolling on your phone, you lift your head and you see that
1:36:30
two people in the room are doing the exact same thing. This is
1:36:34
modern loneliness. This is artificial intimacy. I am there
1:36:37
but I am not present. And then I talk to you about something that
1:36:41
really matters to me. And your answer goes.
1:36:43
Adam Curry: Uh huh. Uh huh. All right. So again, you don't
1:36:48
criticize don't criticize yet because it's
1:36:51
John C Dvorak: your lead me and you're leading me into two
1:36:53
clips.
1:36:54
Adam Curry: Good. We'll get to that in a moment. So this is the
1:36:58
second and only other clip. So as it pertains to what by
1:37:02
John C Dvorak: the way, stop. She's You said she sounds
1:37:05
younger. Yo, sounds good. She's 65 She's not a young woman.
1:37:10
Adam Curry: Really? And the unreal wiki page she she doesn't
1:37:13
I didn't look at her age really? Now, let me say she is it right.
1:37:20
Now. She looks good. Then for 60 Oh, I just zoomed in okay to now
1:37:24
she looks like Victoria knew she looks
1:37:25
John C Dvorak: like she's 65 It looks like
1:37:28
Adam Curry: I really need to click on those pictures. You
1:37:31
gotta
1:37:32
John C Dvorak: yet get
1:37:36
Adam Curry: busted. Okay. Anyway. So this next clip, this
1:37:41
whole the whole thing was because Kara and Scott, you
1:37:44
know, it's so difficult to talk about the conflict and and she
1:37:52
brings in a little bit here about you know, because of
1:37:57
course, you know, no one can sleep you're scrolling all these
1:37:59
pictures is very bad for you artificial and intimacy. And
1:38:03
then she drops this little nugget, which to me explains
1:38:07
exactly why you're seeing protests, which I think are
1:38:10
completely disingenuous. It's just, let's just be for
1:38:15
something that everybody else is for the new new things
1:38:19
Unknown: is changing something in the world, not just in the
1:38:22
Middle East, the 10, it's not sure that the image is really
1:38:25
the right image. And it really tells the story that it pretends
1:38:27
to tell it's a total mindfuck. There is, it's a little bit like
1:38:33
911, with 10 people titrate, don't just watch it over and
1:38:37
over again, you will not sleep, you literally will not sleep, I
1:38:41
am not sleeping. And I didn't watch much. I just talked to
1:38:45
people. And that's enough. So what you do after that, when you
1:38:49
feel like the tide is rising inside of you. And you just feel
1:38:53
like you don't know what to do with all of this is the most
1:38:57
important thing is to come together with others to
1:38:59
experience collective trauma collectively, to understand that
1:39:04
this is changing something in the world, not just in the
1:39:07
Middle East, and to read poetry, to talk about what's happened to
1:39:13
ask people where they are. I think ally ship is extremely
1:39:16
important in a moment like this. And all of those who missed the
1:39:20
ally ship of Black Lives Matter will understand it even more. So
1:39:23
now that when somebody writes to you just to say, I know you have
1:39:27
an attachment to that place, or I know you know people there or
1:39:30
I know you know if you were there recently or something that
1:39:34
says I know I see you there's nothing else for me to say and
1:39:39
you answer this means a lot you thought of me I exist in your
1:39:43
collective awareness and that is a lot
1:39:47
Adam Curry: over socialized under under educated ally ship
1:39:52
needing nut jobs.
1:39:55
John C Dvorak: That's what I think you've been on that for a
1:39:58
while. I think you're right but where did you get This
1:40:01
Adam Curry: Pro I told you from pivot when? Friday
1:40:07
John C Dvorak: this is an up so why do I say that?
1:40:13
Adam Curry: Why do Why do you say that? What do you say? It's
1:40:15
not because
1:40:15
John C Dvorak: they just ran it lowliness bit. Yeah, you know a
1:40:19
complete feature on NPR. Loneliness. Yeah, I just picked
1:40:25
it up on Friday.
1:40:27
Adam Curry: Ah another up uncovered. Wow. Okay, is I
1:40:37
played these clips.
1:40:38
John C Dvorak: Yeah, let's go loneliness one NPR, the United
1:40:41
States is experiencing an epidemic of loneliness WoW
1:40:44
Report from the US Surgeon General says about half of
1:40:47
adults claim they have experienced loneliness.
1:40:49
Unknown: So for some advice on how to make friends, we turn to
1:40:52
some young experts.
1:40:54
I make friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class.
1:40:59
Adam Curry: Where is this person 12.
1:41:02
John C Dvorak: More like eight,
1:41:04
Unknown: it's a little hard in a little easy. You could play with
1:41:08
them or they can play with you
1:41:10
John C Dvorak: stop right there. You know, now, as you mentioned
1:41:12
that they use these kids as foils for this for this feature
1:41:15
that they're doing on loneliness. And I'm thinking
1:41:18
that they're kind of put in the position where they have to do
1:41:22
this because there's some op going on about loneliness, John,
1:41:25
we get
1:41:26
Adam Curry: our producers to have their children say the most
1:41:28
horrible things I know. I mean, you can get the kids to say
1:41:33
anything.
1:41:34
John C Dvorak: Right. But so they put these kids because I
1:41:36
think they're trying to push back against the app. But oh,
1:41:39
let's continue
1:41:40
Unknown: friends by sitting next to them at lunch or in a class.
1:41:45
It's a little hard and a little easy. You could play with them
1:41:49
or they can play with you.
1:41:51
Adam Curry: According to the troll room. Bill Maher also
1:41:54
talked about loneliness epidemic on his show on Friday on Friday.
1:42:00
Hey, everybody, we dropped the OP on Friday.
1:42:03
John C Dvorak: And Friday was the day of the of the 13th the
1:42:07
raid global day every day. Ah,
1:42:11
Unknown: so you should ask them nicely. Try to be nice, because
1:42:15
usually people don't want to be your friends. If you're mean to
1:42:19
them. Oh, that's
1:42:21
Liliana Beckwith Collins a dusky and Liliana is brother, Owen
1:42:24
Beckwith. The fear of rejection sometimes holds people back from
1:42:28
making friends.
1:42:30
When you assume people like you, you are friendlier, you are
1:42:32
warmer, you're more open, you take more initiative,
1:42:35
that is University of Maryland psychologist Marisa Franco.
1:42:38
She's the author of Platonic how the science of attachment can
1:42:42
help you make and keep friends. And she says, paying attention
1:42:46
to people can help you connect with them.
1:42:48
Adam Curry: Wow, do they at any point say if an older person
1:42:52
comes to you, you can trust them to be your friend.
1:42:56
John C Dvorak: No idea what the point of this op is. But the
1:42:59
fact that we have three things going on simultaneously on the
1:43:02
same day, which you'd think they'd spread it out a little
1:43:04
bit. I know, it's very suspicious. Now that they kind
1:43:08
of demeaned the whole thing here on this NPR report. But in the
1:43:10
second half, it's kind of the second clip. It's kind of funny
1:43:16
because the woman who's doing the Who's, who's the presenter
1:43:20
has to demean herself I think at the very end and the whole thing
1:43:25
I believe falls apart, but you know, it continues.
1:43:28
Unknown: If you're just like, present, and you're just like
1:43:32
interested in people like That's enough, you don't have to charm
1:43:37
people.
1:43:38
Having someone to confide in can also affect the way your body
1:43:42
deals with stressful situations. Research shows strong social
1:43:45
connections can reduce the risk of heart disease dementia and
1:43:48
improve your overall well being. Yeah, just as four year old
1:43:51
Edith wintech when I'm with my friend and makes me feel happy.
1:43:57
Okay, so a you don't have any trouble making friends. Am I
1:44:01
right?
1:44:02
No, I do because I don't want any new friends. I describe
1:44:06
myself as friendly not social. So in order to make new friends
1:44:10
you kind of have to be social and I don't want to do that.
1:44:14
So can I be your friend?
1:44:16
I thought we were what do you do audition now is
1:44:20
just checking I was just making sure because you know we're all
1:44:24
we're both nice
1:44:25
Adam Curry: this is this has got to be binary is this something
1:44:28
else coming to this
1:44:30
John C Dvorak: I believe I believe you're right something's
1:44:32
up there How about a new dr. strange and by the way I was
1:44:36
gonna be a good lead into the no agenda meetup section because
1:44:40
into this a you have you have you start making new friends you
1:44:42
you're happier. This
1:44:43
Adam Curry: is correct. And I was planning on doing that
1:44:46
because well I will do it again. But before we even get to the
1:44:49
meet up section, we need to talk about the PhD.
1:44:56
John C Dvorak: Yes, here's my here's what we're doing for the
1:44:58
CIT show. 16 103 Through the 16th anniversary, and probably
1:45:02
and I
1:45:03
Adam Curry: don't even know the entire deal here. So this is new
1:45:06
for me is we're gonna you
1:45:07
John C Dvorak: know, most you know, 99% of it,
1:45:09
Adam Curry: I'd say 80%
1:45:12
John C Dvorak: We're going to do a no agenda is going to be
1:45:15
certificated and recorded, put on a website, and we're not
1:45:20
going to do it forever, we're going to do it for a month, at
1:45:22
most, because this work that Jay is going to have to do.
1:45:27
Adam Curry: Talking about getting your kids to do
1:45:29
something nice, and
1:45:30
John C Dvorak: she's going to charge us for it. So it's gonna
1:45:32
be Oh, it's not frozen. So not so funny is so we're going to
1:45:39
grant the show itself is going to grant a PhD in media
1:45:45
deconstruction. And we're going to do it in a in a in a, in a
1:45:49
way it's done it. Everyone does it the same way by charging you
1:45:53
money.
1:45:55
Adam Curry: Just like a reel of institutions, just like a real
1:45:58
college, will it be $500,000 for a four year education, which
1:46:03
John C Dvorak: is by is a bargain by comparison is going
1:46:06
to be $1,000. It's not a cumulative bull thing. It's
1:46:11
$1,000. Straight up, you will get a knighthood and an
1:46:14
executive producer, but it's not that you can say well, I've
1:46:18
already contributed 500 to my knighthood, here's 500 Give
1:46:21
Adam Curry: me let me let me ask you a question. Can you name
1:46:23
your doc Can you say I'm now a doctor of deconstruction? Or can
1:46:27
you say I'm a Doctor of something else? Do you get to
1:46:29
name your your PhD or your field?
1:46:31
John C Dvorak: You You can do whatever you want. Now, on the
1:46:33
PhD it says Doctor philosophy for Media Studies. Exactly. You
1:46:39
would if you put it on the wall, it would pass by and say
1:46:42
Adam Curry: you have oh, you have a you have a p at European
1:46:44
HD? Yeah. Is it just as valid as any other PhD?
1:46:50
John C Dvorak: depends on your perspective?
1:46:52
Adam Curry: Okay, like, like a knighthood or an executive
1:46:55
producer ship?
1:46:56
John C Dvorak: Yeah, was definitely as valuable as a
1:46:58
knighthood. Is it as $1,000 Straight up, that's it. It's not
1:47:02
$1,000 plus or minus anything? $1,000 or more, you get a
1:47:08
knighthood, a PhD and an executive producer ship all in
1:47:11
one.
1:47:11
Adam Curry: Let's put this just as valid as Joe Biden's PhD. Am
1:47:17
I right?
1:47:18
John C Dvorak: As far as I'm concerned.
1:47:20
Adam Curry: All right. And when we kick this off on the next
1:47:23
show on 1600 are on Yeah, we kick
1:47:26
John C Dvorak: it off, or you can kick it off. Now actually,
1:47:27
today, we have a high donation of 3000. And this person will
1:47:31
retroactively if he wants the, if he wants to PhD, we'll give
1:47:36
it to him because it would be unfair to not give it to
1:47:39
somebody who donated that much the day before we announced the
1:47:42
donations. So that's a retroactive when we can do that.
1:47:46
But from from now on, it's $1,000 that's what it's gonna
1:47:49
cost we figure I figure we'll get 10 or 20 people to do
1:47:52
Adam Curry: i mean i i spent three months in college I have
1:47:55
nothing to show for it. It's you will have a PhD and a hoodie and
1:47:58
I will not have a PhD you know what I'm gonna
1:48:00
John C Dvorak: wait wait if you give $1,000
1:48:04
Adam Curry: DON I want
1:48:06
John C Dvorak: you get a PhD as because you're signing the beard
1:48:09
your signatures on
1:48:12
Adam Curry: that I'd like to thank you for your courage in
1:48:14
the morning to the man who put the seeds in the Doctor of
1:48:17
deconstruction by this gentleman Hello my friend Mr. Johnson
1:48:26
John C Dvorak: in the morning, do you miss random cranium
1:48:27
O'Neill's chips and see boots on the ground feed yourselves in
1:48:30
the water names and nights out there
1:48:32
Adam Curry: hello trolls in the room if you don't mind would you
1:48:35
please put your hands up I want to I want to catch that
1:48:42
people are interested in us 2381 Trolls listening live right now.
1:48:47
That's not That's okay. It's low no it's not
1:48:51
John C Dvorak: low would be 2400 Sunday.
1:48:54
Adam Curry: Yeah, but that was Sunday. Sunday and I just Sunday
1:48:57
night your low some of you leaked out some of you some you
1:49:01
crept out what are you doing? Anyway we need more trolls
1:49:05
trolls if you want to join us I you know who you are. You know
1:49:07
you're a trophy or troll you know who you are. Join us a
1:49:10
troll room.io Or get a modern podcast app. Trust me you're
1:49:14
gonna want one of these. When when the fake news is
1:49:18
everything's coming down. Everything's gonna
1:49:21
John C Dvorak: stay good. Yeah. Yeah, that guy has sent a note
1:49:24
to the hamburger place owners gonna have to meet up Yeah. Do
1:49:28
you have his email? Should we Doc's him?
1:49:30
Adam Curry: No, no, in fact, I emailed him you want to know
1:49:36
what to email me? Yeah. Second. Yeah. Because I he's because it
1:49:40
came through an email to him. Where is it here? I think I have
1:49:45
it here. Not going to Doc's. Anybody you kidding me? Susan
1:49:53
idea. No, you are you're a troll. Get in the troll room
1:49:57
right away. Here it is. I said. So I forwarded the email that I
1:50:04
got from the burger joint guy. And I said to this, Troy said, I
1:50:08
forgive you for doing this. AC and he replied, Go fuck
1:50:12
yourself. Okay? That was basically it. I'm like, No, man,
1:50:18
I forgive me. You
1:50:19
John C Dvorak: don't want to Daxing me or use email. No, I've
1:50:21
Adam Curry: when I forgive. I forgive. It's done. It's um, I'm
1:50:25
not keeping that on me. It's fine. I'm okay. It's all right.
1:50:28
We know that our bad guy
1:50:30
John C Dvorak: is a real creep is really amazing that they find
1:50:33
our show.
1:50:33
Adam Curry: Well, he's, he's got something stuck in his craw
1:50:37
about that. What can I tell you? Anyway? Because I'm sure he'll
1:50:42
be emailing apple and in every other place like oh, what get
1:50:46
these guys off there homophobes at transphobes. So that's why
1:50:51
you want a modern app from podcast apps.com. And these apps
1:50:55
also alert us
1:50:56
John C Dvorak: in the guy had his nuts cut off.
1:51:00
Adam Curry: When we go live, you get an alert, you can listen to
1:51:03
the stream live. It's really It's quite amazing what we're
1:51:06
doing over there to podcasting. 2.0 So do that, or just follow
1:51:10
us? By no agenda. social.com John C. Dvorak. No agenda
1:51:14
social.com. Adam at no agenda social icon. Well, no, I'm not
1:51:16
posting anymore. I'm kind of done. I'm reading I am reading
1:51:20
but I'm not posting I'll repost something. Now it's too
1:51:23
polarized. Everyone's got an opinion. Everyone's I got no
1:51:26
time for it. It's just as bad as any other social network that
1:51:30
you started it. I did. And now it's like, it's our home curry.
1:51:36
What do you think you are? It's our home. Anything it's becoming
1:51:42
it's becoming like no agenda forums?
1:51:45
John C Dvorak: No, nothing. When they start starting their own?
1:51:49
No idea. What's it no agenda social podcast, then? Yeah.
1:51:54
Okay, then you got some.
1:51:55
Adam Curry: Now see, that never works. Because people quickly we
1:51:59
saw that we saw that when it was like the kind of the anti no
1:52:03
agenda podcast and they couldn't keep up because it takes a lot
1:52:06
of work and dedication to do a show twice a week. And they
1:52:10
couldn't even deconstruct our deconstruction, they got tired
1:52:12
of it. Like
1:52:15
Unknown: it's too much work too much
1:52:16
Adam Curry: work to keep up with these guys. Now. One of the main
1:52:21
reasons we're still here 16 years you heard it right there.
1:52:25
Almost 1600 episodes a very interesting confluence of, of
1:52:30
numbers that cross this month is because we haven't relied on
1:52:34
advertising. If we relied on advertising, sponsorship,
1:52:37
underwriting, whatever you want to call it, we would have been
1:52:40
long gone, because it wouldn't have wouldn't have been able to
1:52:43
sustain ourselves with it, which we need, then we can't do this
1:52:47
work as everything full. It's a full time job. You're always all
1:52:51
everything we do is prep. Yeah, go out to dinner with a friend
1:52:54
show prep. Yeah. There's a there's a, I'm here in
1:52:58
Fredericksburg, there's an eclipse show prep. Everything is
1:53:01
show prep. And then just the incoming I've been busy, at
1:53:05
least after filtering the 115 emails in the morning. And then
1:53:10
throughout the day, another 100. And I read it all I read it all
1:53:13
I have to, because there's always going to be that one gem
1:53:16
that you miss if you don't feel like hey, man, can your
1:53:20
assistant reply to me? No, there's no assistant. Donations
1:53:25
are not that good. I wish. I wish. So we all we asked for his
1:53:30
time, talent, treasure, and we so appreciate the talent and the
1:53:35
time that people put into making the show great, such as our
1:53:39
night Daniel, who does no agenda meet ups.com now more important
1:53:42
than ever, as we just heard, because you need to get rid of
1:53:46
the artificial intimacy and get some real intimacy. Look in
1:53:49
people's eyes when you talk to them and not have to be worried.
1:53:52
Because even if you have a completely different opinion
1:53:54
from another no agenda producer, no one's going to vilify you say
1:53:57
well, I don't agree with you. Because we're normal amygdalas
1:54:01
here, normal size. One of the great talents that we receive,
1:54:07
every single show is from our no agenda artists, we appreciate
1:54:10
them so much. They do such great work. And the artwork we had for
1:54:15
episode 1598 titled that one guardrails was an anomaly and
1:54:20
people notice it right away. They said, Oh my God is like an
1:54:23
upside down stamp. Curry Dvorak is not on the artwork, which is
1:54:28
a pretty much a prerequisite. But we laughed so hard when we
1:54:32
saw this from Matt Boisvert. We just had to chuckle when, when
1:54:38
we saw the terror leader one leg one I missing right here living
1:54:44
in a cave answer to the name of Lucky foundries.
1:54:48
John C Dvorak: It's an old guy, right? Have an old joke.
1:54:50
Adam Curry: It was great. And it was. I mean, there was one other
1:54:54
stuff that we Well, I kind of
1:54:56
John C Dvorak: I want to mention somebody. We noticed that was
1:55:00
No, I did that there was no curry Devorah icon there. So it
1:55:03
wasn't like it slipped by us. It was one of those artworks that
1:55:07
we made an exception.
1:55:09
Adam Curry: Yeah, it happens. Yeah, we make it we make
1:55:13
exceptions. We do the I like the The Spy Who Loved Iran and which
1:55:21
I thought was a pretty piece and you correctly said and by the
1:55:24
way you can follow along no agenda art generator.com Dred
1:55:27
Scott also puts these pieces of artwork into the show notes so
1:55:31
you can see what we're talking about. If you look at your
1:55:33
modern app right now you can see it in the chapters. And you said
1:55:37
correctly Well, if you don't really know what's going on just
1:55:39
looks like a James Bond on LSD. I'm like, Yeah, okay. It was
1:55:44
pretty though. But it wasn't as funny as the terror leader. You
1:55:48
know, we're not going to do Stars of David you know, what
1:55:53
else the you use it for the newsletter the peanuts
1:56:00
John C Dvorak: that I did? I thought you did. Yeah. Yeah, I
1:56:03
didn't use that penis. Ah, why do I have the newsletter? I
1:56:06
think I can tell you what I use. No, I use the the
1:56:10
Adam Curry: the yes, the P of war calendar. You laugh? Yes.
1:56:13
Yeah. But I look at that and like that's it was commerce or
1:56:16
blog or AI generated so not stolen? Totally stolen. That
1:56:20
I've seen that from that's
1:56:21
John C Dvorak: totally stolen. I don't care if it's aaj if you
1:56:23
can generate Peanuts characters. That's a copyright viral
1:56:28
violation. I don't care if it's done by AI. But it's that stolen
1:56:32
art that is never going to get used You thief.
1:56:37
Adam Curry: Oh, the so the the faux diddly had a do the math.
1:56:43
And I actually sat with a calculator and we're trying to
1:56:46
figure out
1:56:47
John C Dvorak: like oh no, we gave up after two rounds.
1:56:50
Attempts. It's like
1:56:51
Adam Curry: I can't this what is this artwork about what? I'm
1:56:54
hoping 33 pops out somewhere but no.
1:56:57
John C Dvorak: So that was my if you do do whatever he wants to
1:57:00
do, I'm
1:57:00
Adam Curry: not sure I don't know how to do
1:57:02
John C Dvorak: it. Right numerological tricks
1:57:04
Adam Curry: every odd it didn't work at all for us the math yeah
1:57:09
so and there were other good looking pieces for sure. Good
1:57:12
looking pieces. But nothing quite like the terror leader who
1:57:17
we have who has not emerged as a meme yet so maybe
1:57:19
John C Dvorak: we it's possible that you're all you're going to
1:57:21
be wrong on this one I might be
1:57:23
Adam Curry: Yeah, Muhammad de F it's the right kind of guy but
1:57:28
now
1:57:28
John C Dvorak: he's got all the he's got the all the elements
1:57:32
Adam Curry: He's got everything we need he's we don't know where
1:57:34
he lives. Got one I missing a leg. I am this perfect. But no.
1:57:40
So far no good.
1:57:43
John C Dvorak: Again, we're so far ahead of the game on this
1:57:46
deconstruction stuff that we can do
1:57:48
Adam Curry: months from now does happen it does happen so thank
1:57:50
you very much. Matt for Matt boys word for boys. Ver I wonder
1:57:55
how you pronounce it. We really appreciate the work of all of
1:57:58
the nogen artists we get such a kick out of it every single time
1:58:01
and we just love that we're arguing over real work real
1:58:06
input from people and remember you're not doing it for us
1:58:08
you're doing it for no agenda nation you do it for your
1:58:10
brothers and sisters. That's what's going on here. I mean in
1:58:14
that regard, yes. No agenda socialists also that's you're
1:58:16
doing all that for each other. That's That's all fine. So
1:58:20
that's your time and talent. The treasure portion is of course
1:58:24
critical to keeping the show going. Then the good showing
1:58:28
today in no small part thanks to our top executive producer I
1:58:33
didn't even see this I mean, I'm really look at the I have no
1:58:37
time in the morning to read the whole the whole spreadsheet but
1:58:40
this is from some earthling in Houston in Woodlands Texas
1:58:45
$3,000 Now I'm blown away I'm blown away by this Adam leaves
1:58:50
the note Adam and John thank you for not only wading through the
1:58:53
much each week to the I think it means the muck each week to
1:58:57
provide us with much NO I may be much might be too much to
1:59:01
provide us with the treasure you find but for truly doing it with
1:59:04
your independent approach the NA ecosystem and culture rocks and
1:59:08
we cannot thank you enough for creating it. Thank you again for
1:59:12
truly helping us scour so many sources searching for the truth
1:59:15
Yes you do. You do. Clips, boots on the ground all kinds of great
1:59:19
your own personal experiences all part of the system. That's
1:59:22
why you're all producers, not listeners or fans. Most of all,
1:59:26
thank you for being such an inspirational example of
1:59:29
independence, the V four v and other things y'all do, to remain
1:59:33
free of influence etc is incredible. Honestly, I want to
1:59:37
write a novel to you both just exploring these two principles
1:59:40
but I will refrain for now thank you. Simply put, what you do and
1:59:44
have done is appreciated more than you can know your prayers
1:59:47
karma in Sudha insert how you view it will be appreciated as
1:59:50
well. You got it. I'll give that to you. I would love to pick
1:59:53
your brains with either if you'd be open to a short interview I
1:59:56
may be in I may even be in order to come to Fredericksburg. If
1:59:59
that's In the cards, I'll meet you, brother, or sister, or
2:00:03
sling, some Earthlink, or sling or sling. You can't use the
2:00:07
actual alien, you come to Fredericksburg. Of course, Dad,
2:00:10
I'll take you out to lunch.
2:00:13
John C Dvorak: He's the woodlands. So it's
2:00:14
Adam Curry: not. It's not just a drive. It's a couple of drive to
2:00:19
a couple of thank you so much. And, and congratulations on now.
2:00:23
Are these PhDs numbered?
2:00:26
John C Dvorak: No, but they're listed they're going to be
2:00:28
listed in a an archive.
2:00:29
Adam Curry: Okay, they will be an online Well, you were the
2:00:32
first one to receive
2:00:33
John C Dvorak: like, an official like, well, you actually think
2:00:35
about it, you know, that would be the number and number them
2:00:40
one slash 100 It would be more of an artwork you're getting but
2:00:46
no, we're not doing that.
2:00:48
Adam Curry: You could have just said no, but thanks for the long
2:00:50
day.
2:00:52
John C Dvorak: Thinking about it. The problem is you got to be
2:00:54
thinking about it.
2:00:55
Adam Curry: Some earthling Thank you very much. Here's the karma
2:00:58
your requests I shall pray for you. You've got karma.
2:01:04
John C Dvorak: He well. Was good news from the no agenda shop in
2:01:07
Fayetteville, Georgia. They have our cut of the action $14.18
2:01:12
Since ITM guys the shop is still alive as the shop you should go
2:01:17
visit because they got cool stuff to do. And here although I
2:01:22
think is I think the website it could be easier to find some of
2:01:26
the cool stuff. Here's your cut artists have been paid as well.
2:01:30
If anyone is looking for recommendations check out my
2:01:32
tequila review podcast at still chillin.com and wherever find
2:01:39
podcasts are heard, take you for encouragement all you do.
2:01:42
Adam Curry: And again this is a perfect example of time talent
2:01:45
and treasure no agenda shop they can do whatever they want to do
2:01:50
we have no agreements no contracts, run with it. And we
2:01:53
have we have one restriction don't put our heads on anything.
2:01:56
They work out a deal with the artists who are all nodes in our
2:01:59
generator and then whenever there's something leftover
2:02:01
whenever they feel this right that send a donation. And there
2:02:05
you go. And we've we've we've never even met them in person.
2:02:10
John C Dvorak: And what's cool is that we don't do shirts they
2:02:12
do. We don't do hats they do and people that do shirts and hats
2:02:16
and all the rest that's a business separate from
2:02:19
podcasting to an extreme. We'd be losing $814.18 Euro
2:02:27
Adam Curry: Yes, we would exactly what happened and we'd
2:02:30
have to have meetings. Oh god no great lusty is in Tomahawk
2:02:36
Wisconsin. 477 dot 77 Interesting. Oh, I see driving
2:02:42
1077 miles from Tomahawk, Wisconsin. For the thirsty Third
2:02:47
Thursday meet up in Charlotte, North Carolina. See what well
2:02:50
with three douchebags in Tao in tow. Wow, that's some
2:02:54
dedication. And yeah, and it will pay off. You will love it.
2:02:58
Great, lusty? Send us a report. Send this report.
2:03:03
John C Dvorak: Anonymous in Biloxi, Mississippi. Four.
2:03:08
Three. Biloxi is a really nice place. By the way. I've been
2:03:11
guys first time donating well forgiving me pod father, but I
2:03:15
just wanted to express my appreciation for the show,
2:03:18
especially during COVID. I was an avid Joe Rogan listener when
2:03:21
COVID first started, and I listened to the episode with
2:03:25
that lunatic Michael Osterholm and him saying a million people
2:03:29
are gonna die
2:03:31
Adam Curry: 1,000,003 million.
2:03:32
John C Dvorak: Yeah, he says a million in the note. Yeah, he
2:03:35
said 3 million. And it's going to get really bad. Really bad it
2:03:42
actually had. Oh, it actually had me freaking out a little
2:03:45
bit. And I consider myself a very rational person. But I went
2:03:48
back and listened to Adams episode. And luckily he plugged
2:03:52
the show that plugging the show helps works, even though when
2:03:59
Adam was talking about people getting rings and nice things so
2:04:02
it was a little weird at the time, but I'll check it out. And
2:04:07
ever since I haven't missed an episode. Yeah, I can see how by
2:04:12
not listening to the show and only watching the M five M I
2:04:16
could have easily been one of those people double masked up
2:04:19
driving around in my car by myself and with my fifth jab by
2:04:24
now. But I just wanted to express my sincere appreciation
2:04:28
for both you during that time and today for keeping us sane
2:04:31
for two to three $3.33 I'm
2:04:33
Adam Curry: gonna give him a deducing because didn't ask for
2:04:35
it. But it's the first donation so
2:04:38
Unknown: you've been de Deus. I'll do the next
2:04:41
Adam Curry: to him. Because Earl Christopher in Marshfield,
2:04:44
Wisconsin out of Wisconsin today for some reason. I've always
2:04:49
Wisconsin clip coming up later. The huh Misko why you won't be
2:04:54
disappointed. Says No jingles no karma 333 33 Thank you also 333
2:05:00
dot 33 from Josh Konings acre Kooning's Ekor which will be
2:05:06
Konings acre I guess in Dutch but he's not from Dutch land
2:05:10
he's from packet South Carolina do i pronounce it that way?
2:05:13
Packet packet a packet it in the morning idea there in the
2:05:17
morning Adam and John for many months I've been a faithful
2:05:19
listener but a douchebag. With this donation of 333 33 offer V
2:05:24
for B for the hours of information and amusement you
2:05:26
offer me each week. I appreciate your perspective and enjoy your
2:05:29
back and forth but my favorite part is still Adams delivery of
2:05:33
your award winning Gitmo nation media assassination. If I might
2:05:37
ask my ask for three things one detachment if
2:05:41
Unknown: you've been de deuced
2:05:45
Adam Curry: was really easy to I want to jobs karma for my
2:05:47
fledgling business. Bronze, Bronze Age, ceviche Bronze Age
2:05:55
shaving code.com. Bronze Age shaving koat.com. For fine
2:06:04
American made safety razors and shave soaps, promo code no
2:06:08
agenda for 15% off. I might try. What are you drinking?
2:06:13
John C Dvorak: My last can of polar? Eileen seltzer since you
2:06:17
Adam Curry: never asked. I'm drinking a Waterloo watermelon.
2:06:20
Huh? How is it? I don't taste any watermelon at all. Could you
2:06:27
please give me my favorite jingle rub Eliza thank you for
2:06:29
your courage. Josh Konings zikr in piglet South Carolina
2:06:35
Unknown: in the standby 333 33 Eliezer our
2:06:44
jobs, jobs, jobs and jobs.
2:06:52
John C Dvorak: De Fuca zotoh Our buddy in Gladstone, Missouri,
2:06:55
Dave and oh, they do go everywhere.
2:06:58
Adam Curry: Duke of America's heartland and the Arabian
2:07:01
Peninsula.
2:07:02
John C Dvorak: Happy 16 116 years getting in before the mad
2:07:05
rush. Here's hoping is a good donation spree to keep you all
2:07:09
in the chatter. Please give my pop a birthday shout out he's on
2:07:14
the list and a healthy healthy dose of South Carolina scream
2:07:19
karma. Keep on keeping in.
2:07:22
Adam Curry: Dave scre Oh, South Oh, hold on a second. I didn't
2:07:25
have that one lined up five. Yes, we have it here. You've got
2:07:37
now this next one, I recognize the name and I don't see a note
2:07:41
but I know that the note was posted to my timeline. On no
2:07:46
agenda social. I do want to pull this up for a second because
2:07:50
it's from Jason rich. And he's a member of the beef initiative on
2:07:56
a second let me see if I could find Yeah, and it was his first
2:08:00
time donating so I don't know how we maybe thought by posting
2:08:03
it on the on the origin the social that it Well, some
2:08:07
John C Dvorak: people I've seen people do that. I have no idea
2:08:10
why they're doing that. Well,
2:08:11
Adam Curry: he's you know, it's his first time so now I guess.
2:08:14
Oh, we go. Jason rich just donate for the first time. It
2:08:18
was great to sit on the porch. And by the way, what did he
2:08:20
donate? What was his amount here? 33333. It was great to sit
2:08:24
on the porch with you and slim at White Oak pastures. That was
2:08:27
Georgia when we actually did the show from there. Thanks for
2:08:30
everything you've done for the beef initiative for anyone in
2:08:32
Colorado looking for grass fed and finished beef. We are the
2:08:36
hookup they can find us on Twitter at Jason rich WR ich
2:08:40
this Monday the 16th will will be my 45th trip around the sun.
2:08:45
My wife and I just purchased the neighboring ranch and are fixing
2:08:48
it up for Airbnb and wedding or conference venue. Yeah, all
2:08:52
right. So I gotta put Jason rich on the on the Birthday Calendar
2:08:57
cause he's not there. Well, thank you very much brother. It
2:08:59
was Believe me it was a lot of fun hanging out with you there
2:09:03
as well. And I'll give you a DD
2:09:08
Unknown: D deuced.
2:09:11
John C Dvorak: Give me the put some flank stakes aside, though
2:09:14
game Cheryl Wetzel in Pineville Wyoming 33333 She sent an actual
2:09:20
physical note and check in and you can tell because
2:09:26
Adam Curry: Yep, makes no no.
2:09:28
John C Dvorak: Oh Jensen pintail, Wyoming happy 16 years
2:09:31
loving to show thank you for highlighting the absurdity of
2:09:33
the world that we now live in. So many discussions are so sad
2:09:37
but your voice has helped to lighten the burden of the
2:09:39
insanity. I happen to have some knowledge of rapid test kits and
2:09:43
it is beyond shocking. Beyond Shocking. Shocking, that it is
2:09:49
now okay to willy nilly extended an expiration date without going
2:09:54
back to the FDA to prove that it gets still works absurd. Since I
2:09:59
do not believe that Cove to even exist These kits are most
2:10:03
certainly crap. Even before expert exploration. I would dare
2:10:09
say they are designed to be designed to be an accurate Yes,
2:10:13
I suppose as long as the internal control is working, the
2:10:16
test must be right. Right. The promotion is that these kits
2:10:19
work best on the fourth day is genius. Because of the dingbats
2:10:24
that I know, most of which are no better good. We'll test all
2:10:28
four days because the primary symptoms for COVID is now I
2:10:31
don't feel right.
2:10:34
Adam Curry: My nose is running.
2:10:39
John C Dvorak: The kiss must be flying off the shelves. Final
2:10:42
note that recently a colleague announced that she was COVID
2:10:46
positive at just after her recent flu shot. Isn't that
2:10:49
interesting? She didn't have any symptoms other than fatigue, you
2:10:53
know? She just didn't feel right. She is waiting for PCR
2:10:57
confirmation can't do good work. Good. Thank you for your courage
2:11:00
Dame Cheryl cowgirl of the Wind River Range wa oming does she
2:11:04
want any? She wants the F 35 Scream? Oh, she also
2:11:07
Adam Curry: wants the F 35 scream Oh, one second. Sounds
2:11:12
like you got COVID
2:11:13
John C Dvorak: Yeah, I don't feel right.
2:11:23
Unknown: Karma.
2:11:24
Adam Curry: Nothing is a winner. That's a winner. Jennifer Davies
2:11:28
is in Bethlehem, Pennsylvania. And she also has a note which he
2:11:31
sent in and I have that note here. And Hi, John and Adam.
2:11:35
This executive producer donation is in honor of my smokin hot
2:11:37
husband Oh switcheroo Jonathan's 50th birthday on October 16.
2:11:42
He's been listening to your show for a long time. caps. And I
2:11:46
figured it was time to make an honest podcast listeners out of
2:11:49
him. I can't think of a better birthday gift for his 50th time
2:11:52
around the sun than an executive producer credit for the best
2:11:55
podcast in the universe. Please dee doo
2:12:00
Unknown: dee doo sched
2:12:03
Adam Curry: That is very cool. It's a great birthday cake. You
2:12:05
should also probably just give them a flame thrower or
2:12:07
something like that. It's also cool 50 year old guys like that.
2:12:10
Jonathan is a hard working man, faithful husband and amazing dad
2:12:14
to our for human resources. He hit me in the mouth a few years
2:12:17
ago, and I have to be honest, at first, I thought it was getting
2:12:20
corrupted by the show. Wow, was the marriage on the rocks. But
2:12:29
when I actually started listening, my eyes were opened
2:12:32
and my amygdala expanded. I'll always be grateful. Thanks for
2:12:37
all you do. Please play China's as Whoa, it's true. Oh, I didn't
2:12:40
get the it's true part. I missed that. I just thought it's true.
2:12:43
That's true. Whereas it's worthy. It's true ladies. And we
2:12:49
had no been asked for that one in a while.
2:12:53
John C Dvorak: Because it's gone out of favor.
2:12:55
Adam Curry: It's true. I got Donald Trump it's true. What is
2:12:59
John C Dvorak: run into a number of people who said that they
2:13:01
couldn't listen to the show because they felt it was
2:13:03
corrupting them.
2:13:05
Adam Curry: Really? Really now? Yeah. corrupting them in what
2:13:10
way? I don't know.
2:13:17
I can't find this anymore. What is this? It's true. That's not
2:13:21
the right one. Where's the ladies? It's true. Oh, it's not
2:13:25
it's true. It's That's true. That's true. See? They messed me
2:13:29
up there you go. There you go. Yes, I got you ladies right
2:13:33
here. Okay. Don't trust China. China is as Hoh.
2:13:41
John C Dvorak: ESP ICT All right, there you go. And I'm
2:13:45
gonna go to our Associate Executive Producer Ryan de
2:13:48
Blasio in Fishers Indiana. To 2222 A row of ducks. From the
2:13:55
artwork to the end of the show mixes and everything in between.
2:13:59
Show 1598 was superb. Thank you, Ryan de Aza, Zo.
2:14:06
Adam Curry: Anna, you're welcome. Anonymous is an
2:14:08
Amsterdam with a row of ducks. two to two. Hi, John Adams has
2:14:11
been a while since I donated so here take my money. I'm a
2:14:14
painter from Amsterdam who likes to sneak his politics into his
2:14:17
paintings. Whoa. Ooh, I got Oh, he was gonna
2:14:21
John C Dvorak: look him up. I didn't. He has been he's
2:14:23
anonymous in he can't read the name of his website because he's
2:14:27
not anonymous anymore. So we can't plug his stuff.
2:14:29
Adam Curry: Well, really, because it's just an Instagram.
2:14:32
It doesn't doesn't have his name on there.
2:14:35
John C Dvorak: Well, it's up to you if you want to violate his
2:14:37
desires to be anonymous. And he says sometimes I know use it
2:14:41
into notes. So
2:14:43
Adam Curry: now I'm conflicted. Some Well you tell me tell me if
2:14:47
it's worth showing first. Sometimes the show inspires me
2:14:50
for a painting title like the green leap forward. Thanks for
2:14:54
that one. Adam. Federal listeners who like art from
2:14:57
outside of the lefty plantation can find my He wants it can find
2:15:01
my work on my Instagram account on the Insta pet Rex art p e t r
2:15:07
e x AR T pet Rex art. PS I made that Grumpy Old Men artwork a
2:15:12
few shows ago of course. I know you don't like your faces on
2:15:15
there the artwork was titled Just for fun surprise. You
2:15:18
didn't catch that. Love the show. No jingles no karma you
2:15:21
check it out.
2:15:23
John C Dvorak: It tried. I think it's cut way back. What we do I
2:15:29
didn't know. I said I didn't check it
2:15:31
Adam Curry: out. Oh, I'm checking. Oh,
2:15:33
John C Dvorak: this is cool. See you on his website.
2:15:35
Adam Curry: Yeah. On the on his Insta. On his gram. Yeah, I can
2:15:40
see what he's doing here. Oh, it's very, very, very different.
2:15:46
It's kind of cool. Kind of cool. All right.
2:15:50
John C Dvorak: You got to say good.
2:15:51
Adam Curry: I think so. Okay. Yeah. I mean, I'd hang it on my
2:15:55
wall. Not the one with the devil's horns. But the other
2:15:59
ones. Yeah, some good stuff. Oh,
2:16:01
John C Dvorak: yeah. James Shea's up. Definitely. He's in
2:16:05
Brewster Mills, West Virginia, to 1001 donation note email and
2:16:12
I do have it. Oh, good because I forwarded I don't know why you
2:16:16
had to. Somehow so why didn't didn't show up. I decided to
2:16:24
send a bank check this time because John says that's the way
2:16:27
to go. So hopefully you can match this note up with a check
2:16:31
when it comes in. And you find out I saw this note too. I you
2:16:35
know, I didn't forward it to to Jay though. I had to stop being
2:16:40
a freeloader. I hadn't donate in a long time because the fuzzy
2:16:44
cows in the 10 for newsletter got to me it was good. A lot of
2:16:49
people love those fuzzy cows I love the cows. Your show
2:16:53
deserves more support. And we know we need to recognize that
2:16:58
and step up Please play the Emperor Hillary clip that I sent
2:17:04
you years ago that never gets played No There you go. Oh I
2:17:10
have because I am holding on to this dream that she will run
2:17:15
again solely for the value it bring to the show. I would like
2:17:20
some goat karma please. Lastly, I would like to change my night
2:17:24
name to sir. tip, tip theology and certificate. Search Oh
2:17:31
certifiably insane, certifiably got it is you can you put him on
2:17:36
the upgrade list is not on there, I'm sure. Clear thanks,
2:17:39
fellas for the hard work you do every week to bring us the best
2:17:42
podcast in the universe. Denise goat Carmen and upbraiding name
2:17:47
Adam Curry: and this Hillary Emperor clip from 2017 which I
2:17:50
found immediately
2:17:51
Unknown: by bidding my masters this year on my birthday every
2:17:55
American gets a cupcake. Yes, my master
2:18:00
you've got
2:18:06
Adam Curry: Sir Go T Fisher. Winter Springs, Florida. 201 dot
2:18:10
33 Switcheroo okay. Hey John, Adam, Adam and John. Actually, I
2:18:14
wore my no agenda University t shirt out on the town Friday
2:18:18
13th And ended up at Ellen's wine room in Sanford, Florida
2:18:22
and organically created a fantastic impromptu meet up. We
2:18:26
had many people in the wine room discussing no agenda after
2:18:28
sirloin and I hit people in the mouth. The T shirt was an
2:18:31
amazing conversation piece. Everyone should go to the no
2:18:35
agenda shop and buy their own T shirts and enjoy the great
2:18:38
responses they create. Please de Deus longtime listener Eric
2:18:44
Unknown: de Deus,
2:18:46
Adam Curry: owner of the wine room Her name is Ellen
2:18:51
Unknown: de deuced
2:18:54
Adam Curry: please contribute this donation to my keeper of 36
2:18:57
years and they never had a fight Trish Holland do you do church
2:19:02
you've been de deuced and give her and you know producer
2:19:07
credits that's the switcheroo way I just did it to you got it.
2:19:11
I am also sending in a meet up report as well. Yes received
2:19:14
gold scream love is lit karma. Well, I'm not quite sure exactly
2:19:18
what that got goats Reman karma. You got it man. Thank you very
2:19:20
much. You've got karma.
2:19:28
John C Dvorak: Mark Bognor, our buddy in Los Angeles,
2:19:30
California. hudl Mark Bognor $200.33. I humbly request to
2:19:36
John's my chair gently squeaks jingle
2:19:50
Unknown: t shirt The
2:20:06
World Wide
2:20:14
Adam Curry: squeeze. It is a classic from Darren O'Neal.
2:20:21
Beautiful. Glad we could play a little bit of that. Earl Pennell
2:20:25
p&l is in Ohio Youngstown, Ohio 200 ollars Associate Executive
2:20:30
producer credits are real people. ITM John Adam, new
2:20:33
listener spot on evaluation of the war in Israel. Hopefully
2:20:37
this donation makes up for any listener that was lost. Can I
2:20:40
get some good karma? Thank you, you've got karma.
2:20:48
John C Dvorak: And finally, we got Linda Lou patcon, who's in
2:20:51
Lakewood, Colorado, I'm gonna give her a jet UniSA jobs Garma
2:20:55
I'm gonna give her a different read this time for a resume that
2:20:57
gets results. I say go to Image makers inc.com For all your
2:21:03
executive resume and job search needs, that's image makers Inc
2:21:08
with a k.com. Or just find Queen Linda Lubetkin under the show's
2:21:13
producer, list jobs,
2:21:15
Unknown: jobs, jobs and jobs, for jobs.
2:21:22
Adam Curry: Thank you all very much. All of you, our exec or
2:21:25
Associate Executive producers, all of you receive a title one
2:21:28
that is completely real. It can be used anywhere where the where
2:21:32
any type of title is recognized. And we suggest you put on your
2:21:37
LinkedIn, your resume or go to imdb.com. If you don't have an
2:21:40
account that you probably don't, but you do now, you'll see lots
2:21:43
of heavy hitters in Hollywood even who have credits. And I
2:21:47
would send you to our donation page for other people to learn
2:21:50
how you can become an Executive Associate Executive Producer, I
2:21:54
believe you you didn't demoed a beta version of the new donation
2:21:58
page.
2:21:59
John C Dvorak: Yeah, no agenda donations.com with a plural
2:22:04
plural.
2:22:04
Adam Curry: How are we going to we ended up going to stop or
2:22:06
divorce act.org/and? A?
2:22:08
John C Dvorak: No, I'm keeping the other one alive for a year.
2:22:11
Adam Curry: You don't have the credentials to even do anything
2:22:13
with it. That's the problem. Just do it.
2:22:16
John C Dvorak: Why don't you.org I can take do anything I want. I
2:22:20
got a Why don't you? Why don't you for ft. I will but I there's
2:22:23
a couple of things that need to be done to it first. Yeah.
2:22:25
Adam Curry: Like like find the password. I know what's going
2:22:28
on. You can't fool me. Keep it alive for a year. You know, I'm
2:22:34
going to remember this.
2:22:36
John C Dvorak: I still have I still have people using the the
2:22:40
legacy account, which is a decade or maybe longer, too old.
2:22:46
And I've talked to pay pal about this because we now have an
2:22:49
account executive because you know, that calls once in a
2:22:52
while.
2:22:53
Adam Curry: Or they say like, Hey, what's this weird donation?
2:22:56
Are you guys terrorists?
2:22:58
John C Dvorak: Now they never do they have done that. Oh, and so
2:23:00
the guy calls and I said, you know, and he says, Well, I don't
2:23:02
know what we need, because he would they have programs, you
2:23:05
know what get you on this great deal. It works. Yeah. So I said,
2:23:09
Well, you know, we don't need that. Okay, well, I explained
2:23:11
the business model and everything to the guy and I
2:23:13
said, but the one thing you guys could help with? And he
2:23:16
certainly, you know, it's not really my job to do this. But he
2:23:19
says I'll give it a shot and see if I can get it done. Which is
2:23:22
to move the the legacy account all the people over to the
2:23:28
regular account and then get rid of that thing.
2:23:30
Adam Curry: No, they can't do that. They're gonna try, they
2:23:34
can see, you know, a friend of mine lost the email that he had
2:23:41
his ex account registered to when it was still Twitter. That
2:23:45
email address went away and they cannot reset your password. If
2:23:51
you don't if you don't believe what they can't do. It's just
2:23:54
not possible. He was lucky enough to buy the domain back
2:23:58
and set up an email address to get it back. But it's it's
2:24:02
impossible. It's crazy. It's unbelievable what they can't do
2:24:06
what they can't do. Thank you all execs and Associate
2:24:10
Executive producers. We have some meetups we've got I think
2:24:13
we have a 92 nice things coming up. We got some birthdays and
2:24:17
John will take us through the 50s with people who came in and
2:24:19
just this week.
2:24:22
John C Dvorak: Phil Barnett starts us off in Brentwood,
2:24:24
Tennessee 15999 Sir Gregory in Cincinnati, Ohio 12121. Sir
2:24:31
Jonathan in St. Louis, Missouri 1010 170 threes que es zero IHT
2:24:38
70 threes, Julia Saavedra in Madison Heights Virginia. 100.
2:24:46
Lucas Williams and Roswell guy in Roswell. I think we have a
2:24:50
couple of people we
2:24:50
Adam Curry: got we got goodies from Roswell. I got a flying
2:24:52
saucer. Do
2:24:53
John C Dvorak: you ever get the driver's license from the alien
2:24:56
driver's license, dude? Sure. Did. I use it? I use it all Last
2:25:00
time I gave it I was at the bank and to do a no me No.
2:25:06
Adam Curry: Yeah. And they accepted it. No.
2:25:12
John C Dvorak: But they get the biggest kick out image. First
2:25:16
day look at it like it's real. That's hilarious. They look at
2:25:20
it and they go and they look and they have a big funnel look for
2:25:24
what and then they figure out it's a big joke. So
2:25:27
Adam Curry: so and so when you go to the bank, which is a small
2:25:29
little bank, and you know, they're all sitting there. Tears
2:25:33
that old queued again. Borax coming in with checks.
2:25:39
John C Dvorak: Yeah, pretty much. But just so I throw this
2:25:42
I've used it a couple of times and he's always gets a chuckle.
2:25:45
Lucas Williams in Roswell, New Mexico comes with 100 Clara,
2:25:50
Sierra Clara, Sierra, Sierra, and Charlotte, North Carolina
2:25:53
this year Morris 100 Happy birthday to her talented, smokin
2:25:58
hot boyfriend. There we go. Got him on the list? Yes
2:26:01
Adam Curry: Are SCOBY sure he's been around. So Scott and
2:26:03
John C Dvorak: Clayton, California 100 Nisa de douching.
2:26:08
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:26:10
John C Dvorak: Stephen Shevlin. And Southampton Massachusetts.
2:26:14
Nein. Nein, nein, nein. Kevin McLaughlin. There he is.
2:26:17
Concord, North Carolina. Lover American boobs. Duke of Luna 808
2:26:23
Breast Cancer Awareness save the twins save the trends. Gary
2:26:28
blatten Wayne Pennsylvania 777. David Jarman in North Turramurra
2:26:35
New South Wales Australia 75 Katyn Clifford. Bridge Ontario,
2:26:43
Canada 69 and 69 I got hairy legs because what he says sure
2:26:48
did. Kevin McLaughlin in Concord North Carolina 606 Again, Breast
2:26:54
Cancer Awareness Month save the coconuts. Christopher dektor in
2:27:00
it 5678. Varun it and Dane and the dame of Puget Sound and some
2:27:06
Manish buy for five forget a birthday call out it's on the
2:27:10
list. Sir subterranean Shizen in Saskatoon at the Paris of Canada
2:27:17
30 to 69. We put a birthday biscuit because the birthday
2:27:22
here at the end. He also
2:27:26
Adam Curry: also wanted a posthumous mothership boarding
2:27:28
pass for his friend Tanya's next journey. All right, that's
2:27:31
virtual and you got it.
2:27:33
John C Dvorak: John Kraddick in Stafford, Virginia 52 Sir
2:27:39
Kelsey, and he's on a birthday list, sir recalcitrant crazy
2:27:42
Steve in Santa Rosa. 5150 get John out of the house meet up
2:27:49
coming up on October 21. And you'll be there. I will. I'll be
2:27:54
there. It'll be our it'll be the prelude to the 16th anniversary
2:27:58
show. And if you're going to donate to the show, bring an
2:28:03
envelope. Christopher Myers in Dallas Texas 51 If you can even
2:28:09
see me in this dark bar. Will Sherman in spring Texas 5033
2:28:14
Adam Curry: needs a D Do
2:28:17
Unknown: you have bad deed deuced
2:28:20
John C Dvorak: economic sir. barons are economic hitman and
2:28:23
Tomball, Texas 5001. And now we got the $50 donors and I'll wrap
2:28:27
this up with starting with Jared yaw in Nashville, Tennessee real
2:28:32
real deals now in San Antonio, Texas. You want a real deal now.
2:28:38
Brandon Savoie in Port orchard, Washington. Dane Patricia
2:28:42
Worthington in Miami. Thomas fans low in Livonia. Christian
2:28:51
Christian Freeman in San Marcos, Texas Kevin deals in
2:28:54
Huntersville, North Carolina William McFarland in Manassas,
2:28:58
Virginia and that's a birthday Anna de douching.
2:29:03
Unknown: You've been de deuced
2:29:05
John C Dvorak: Diane Shrawan it back in johnsburg, Illinois, big
2:29:11
papa productions Minneapolis Minnesota, Kelly MacDill and
2:29:16
Mission Hills Kansas. Easy landscapes in North Stonington
2:29:20
Connecticut, easy peasy Philip blue in Louisville Kentucky is
2:29:25
Michael Thompson in new brown fells Texas. Chris Lewinsky sir
2:29:30
in Sherwood Park, Alberta, Michael Pirot parrot in Salem,
2:29:36
Oregon, Michael wind down in Matawan New Jersey James powers
2:29:42
in Carnegie, Oklahoma and last on the listeners spot the mighty
2:29:46
in Marietta, Georgia plus, Sir Jerry William Roth in Saugus,
2:29:51
California want to thank these people for making the prelude to
2:29:55
Show 1600 Show 5099 success thank you Oh
2:30:00
Adam Curry: yes thank you all very much. Also if you came in
2:30:02
under $50 For reasons of anonymity, I see you there 4999
2:30:06
Or if you're on one of our sustaining donations we thank
2:30:09
you very much for those those always get us through the
2:30:12
tougher times you can make one up yourself we have a lot of
2:30:15
different ones and for a while stocks last you can still find
2:30:18
all that information on this website vorak.org/in A and thank
2:30:23
you once again for supporting episode 1599 of the best podcast
2:30:27
in the universe
2:30:28
Unknown: formula is this. We go out we had people in the mouth
2:30:52
Adam Curry: and we've got a list that we will work through right
2:30:54
now Baron and dame of Puget Sound was shut Tim White a happy
2:30:58
birthday turned 54 Yesterday, John Craddick is turning 52
2:31:02
today Jason wrench will be 49 years old tomorrow. Jennifer
2:31:06
Davies says Happy Birthday to her smokin hot husband Jonathan.
2:31:09
He turns 50 years old tomorrow, William McFadden. Celebrating on
2:31:14
the 18th or subterranean chitosan wishes Landon C.
2:31:17
Johnson Happy Birthday CR Morris Happy Birthday to a smokin hot
2:31:21
boyfriend to SCOBY of the Piedmont and Dave focus odo that
2:31:25
is our Duke of American heartland and the Arabian
2:31:27
Peninsula wishes his pop a happy birthday Happy birthday,
2:31:30
everybody. Here's the best podcast in the universe. Two
2:31:35
night notes to read because they came in at lower amounts but
2:31:38
they be they will be knighted today and the first one is from
2:31:41
Kirk stroke or stroke. Since he's from Iowa and not from
2:31:44
Holland, I'm a dude named Ben named Kirk from whole Iowa I
2:31:48
decided to check my paypal history today and took the
2:31:51
sustaining donation subscription I've been on since at least
2:31:53
2018. To my surprise, I've reached knighthood and a third
2:31:58
more please Knight me sir Kirk of Su land protector of things
2:32:01
with power cords if I may, please have protein bars and
2:32:05
Diet Mountain Dew with the roundtable Ooh, breakfast of
2:32:08
champions. No jingle no karma and no jingles no common unless
2:32:12
you have one for people who found no agenda by searching for
2:32:15
what happened to cranky geeks. It works Keep up the great work
2:32:20
and of course staining donation to keep the show going Thank you
2:32:24
very much Kirk. You're on deck for a knighting in a moment and
2:32:28
we have a note from Chris gentleman It was a long haul but
2:32:30
please see the attached accounting which allows me to
2:32:32
Don seriously uncomfortable body armor while sipping something no
2:32:36
agenda social name the dangerous clams at dangerous underscore
2:32:40
clams at no agenda social icon please note me as sir Christo of
2:32:44
the Black Mountain roundtable tacos and Diet Dr. Pepper Oh we
2:32:47
got some health nuts here today thanks guys don't stop what
2:32:50
you're doing from Chris and both of you can get ready because
2:32:54
here's a blade John has a sword here you go oh nicely unsheath
2:33:02
car can Chris pop up on the podium here both of yours long
2:33:07
row but doesn't matter it's just as valid get him here by very
2:33:11
proud to pronounce the k d s sir Kirk of Su land protector of
2:33:15
things with power cords and Sir Christos a Black Mountain for
2:33:19
you we've got hookers and blow for rent and rent boys and short
2:33:22
names. We have the protein bars and Diet Mountain Dew and tacos
2:33:26
and Dr. Died pepper why? I don't know because we also have cow
2:33:29
girls and coffin foreigners Rubenesque woman and Rosae
2:33:32
geishas and sakeI vodka, Manila buckets and bourbon, sparkling
2:33:35
cider escorts ginger ale and gerbils, breast milk and pablum.
2:33:38
It is breast cancer awareness month. But of course you will
2:33:41
always want to try out our mutton and meat it's top notch
2:33:44
and you can surf on over to norgine earrings.com checkout
2:33:47
are those beautiful night rings you will be receiving one of
2:33:50
those along with wax to seal your important correspondence
2:33:53
with because they are Signet rings and you'll get a
2:33:56
certificate of authenticity just send us your ring size and your
2:34:00
address which is all available there in the handy form and
2:34:03
thank you so much for supporting the no agenda show the best
2:34:05
podcast in the universe No one
2:34:17
don't fall into the trap of artificial intimacy attend a no
2:34:21
agenda meetup you heard it you heard it smart people are
2:34:23
telling you this is a real thing. And we have a solution I
2:34:27
mean when I say we I mean the producers have no agenda this is
2:34:30
an adjacent program adjacent to the the podcast itself supported
2:34:34
by listeners just like you and people like to send us meetup
2:34:38
reports. Here's that to Ellen's wine room meet up report which
2:34:40
was impromptu
2:34:44
Unknown: Hey, no agenda nation. This is Jeff sir goatee from
2:34:49
Fisher of the Space Coast here at a impromptu meet up and
2:34:54
Ellen's wine room here in Sanford Florida.
2:34:58
This is Tristan you You think keeper, love it. Hey, this is LM
2:35:06
from Ellen's wine room in Sanford, Florida. I just learned
2:35:10
about no agenda and Jeff and John. Awesome. Love it.
2:35:16
Yeah, this is Eric soon to be ex douchebag. It's Oviedo. They may
2:35:21
not be Oviedo although follically perhaps it looks that
2:35:24
way but it's Obito. Danger out here.
2:35:30
Certainly not New Smyrna Beach circ shallows and surrounding
2:35:34
seashores cup of coffee in the big turn boys. show better meat
2:35:42
lovers
2:35:45
Adam Curry: All right. Oh Vito will never remember. But thank
2:35:47
you for for correcting us on that Denver had a meet up every
2:35:51
day you're not
2:35:53
Unknown: at a meetup. You should think of the old Dutch saying so
2:35:58
Noblesville tucked in on his Oh,
2:36:00
wow. So yeah, something else
2:36:02
we're arguing about who the Three Musketeers were Jim from
2:36:06
Denver filling in for Rasputin in the morning.
2:36:09
This is Sir our I think I'm maybe dark Canyon. It's not the
2:36:13
bad guy.
2:36:15
All right. Love is lit. Come on out.
2:36:17
Mile High meetups and we're out
2:36:19
Adam Curry: and that was not even touch when he spoke that
2:36:23
was funny. I liked it. Right now as we speak there is a meetup
2:36:26
underway at Sol mill in Albuquerque New Mexico. That's
2:36:29
sir Jeff was out there. I told you go go that meet up ask him
2:36:33
about his scars. Hopefully he'll have report for us. Also today
2:36:37
casting for Gaston kicked off at two o'clock and Charleston South
2:36:41
Carolina. That's a Gaston Manor. Dame Jennifer organizing you
2:36:45
know there's going to be Drayton Manor Gaston you know there's
2:36:50
gonna be an awesome meet up report from that one. Especially
2:36:53
from Dame Jennifer. Dave Jennifer just so much good
2:36:56
stuff. We have the spooky October meetup, which kicks off
2:37:01
just started at prodigy Burger Bar in Indianapolis, Indiana.
2:37:06
them tomorrow Oh Monday night bowling night in the Ozarks
2:37:09
enterprise Park Lane Springfield, Missouri seven
2:37:12
o'clock on Thursday. Our next show day North Idaho Sandy
2:37:15
brigade they've been meeting for years and years five o'clock at
2:37:18
Selkirk Abbey, and that's in Post Falls, Idaho. North Georgia
2:37:23
monthly six o'clock at Cherry Street brewing in Alpharetta,
2:37:26
Georgia on Thursday and finally Charlotte's thirsty Third
2:37:29
Thursday seven o'clock at Ed's tavern, Charlotte North Carolina
2:37:33
there's a ton of them the whole calendar is filling up all the
2:37:36
way through December no agenda meetups and we say connections
2:37:39
protection It's true you protect yourself from artificial
2:37:43
intimacy if you have never been to a meet up now is your time
2:37:48
you will notice the difference it is good for your health you
2:37:50
heard it the OP has been dropped no agenda meetup.com You can
2:37:54
find one near you start one yourself some
2:38:00
Unknown: day days you won't be triggered you wouldn't be saying
2:38:14
is like
2:38:16
Adam Curry: no, I know I did my ISOs first last time so now you
2:38:19
have to start
2:38:20
John C Dvorak: you know I think you're right about this binary
2:38:22
nature this loneliness up.
2:38:24
Adam Curry: Oh, there's something come and maybe it's a
2:38:25
drug you think it's a drug? Maybe? Or?
2:38:28
John C Dvorak: I don't know they can do something that will be
2:38:31
Adam Curry: a new survey. How about a government run social
2:38:35
network? That's better for your health.
2:38:38
John C Dvorak: When it happens, we'll be the first one we'll
2:38:40
Adam Curry: know. We'll know. We'll know. Yeah,
2:38:42
John C Dvorak: I have to. To one of his kind of funny I don't
2:38:47
know if it's a good enough showcase but it's funny is ISO
2:38:49
8010 80%
2:38:51
Unknown: of structures have been decimated.
2:38:56
John C Dvorak: So long, long 80% of structures have been
2:38:59
decimated just Yeah. Interesting. All right. Well, I
2:39:03
try this one dystopian nightmare. Guess Tolkien
2:39:07
Adam Curry: nightmare. I like it nothing like a good Amy I so let
2:39:10
me see what
2:39:11
John C Dvorak: I've got. She's got vocal fry in it too. I get
2:39:13
bonus vocal fry. It is bonus
2:39:16
Adam Curry: Tolkien nightmare. Yeah, yeah, it's a bonus. It's a
2:39:19
bonus. Let's see what I got. The things I do for this show. is
2:39:26
too long is too long.
2:39:27
Unknown: It's funny though.
2:39:28
It feels wrong but it's actually right.
2:39:33
Adam Curry: And then my favorite here's the ringer. I swallowed a
2:39:36
bug Come on.
2:39:41
John C Dvorak: You know it's really good. dystopian
2:39:46
nightmare, like reflects the show. Yeah. But I would go with
2:39:51
that. But if you want to use it's up to you, you just use
2:39:54
your choice are you because I know you love I swallowed a bug.
2:39:59
Adam Curry: I'm gonna I'm gonna look at the troll room. Alright
2:40:01
troll room. Here we go first one I swallowed up. And the second
2:40:07
Unknown: limit trolls. Tolkien nightmare.
2:40:10
John C Dvorak: They're going to pick the bug because the troll
2:40:13
room now
2:40:13
Adam Curry: I get bug bug bug. Bug bug bug Amy bug. Yes AMI AMI
2:40:20
AMI bug bug bug. Bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug bug? Nightmare
2:40:25
bug? Wow, no toss it. Let's do that. I'm gonna do dystopian
2:40:31
nightmare. I'm with you. It's it. It's reflects the show that
2:40:35
can always play the bug.
2:40:37
John C Dvorak: How about this?
2:40:38
Adam Curry: No, don't make me combo it.
2:40:41
John C Dvorak: I swallowed a bug followed by Nestopia. Now
2:40:44
Adam Curry: it has to be three seconds or less. That is the
2:40:47
rule. That's the rule. That's the rule. But because I give you
2:40:50
that I will get the next clip. Did you know In the world of
2:40:55
podcasting that Rob Lowe has a podcast
2:41:01
John C Dvorak: course why would I know? I don't know that.
2:41:03
There's no way I would know that. I didn't know it
2:41:05
Adam Curry: either. Rob Lowe has a podcast. It's pretty
2:41:09
interesting. He had Arnold Schwarzenegger on his podcast.
2:41:13
And this is a clip that's been doing the rounds because it's
2:41:16
quite entertaining.
2:41:17
Unknown: Okay, let me ask you this. And I asked people this
2:41:19
all the time. David Dreier, good friend of ours. Yes. And good
2:41:23
man. served for many, many, many years. He used to have the
2:41:27
greatest what makes me a Republican and he had I think
2:41:30
four or five things I think was in no particular strong
2:41:34
military, low taxes, less government, more personal
2:41:39
freedoms. There might have been one a COVID but it makes sense
2:41:44
to know strong law enforcement strong law on the person and
2:41:47
then I'd like to know what the I was asked Democrats what it
2:41:51
means to be a Democrat in that way and I think whatever anybody
2:41:54
would say is boy that what this what would they say
2:41:59
to this? What's that room you sit on your city? Sob about
2:42:04
ruining the cities? You know, the fuck up every city in
2:42:07
America? That's what seems to be the theme right now. Why is
2:42:12
that? I have no idea. I
2:42:17
Adam Curry: thought that was dynamite. is funny. You don't
2:42:21
hear Arnold dropped the F bomb. Of course. He said screw your
2:42:24
freedom. We haven't forgotten that you don't get a pass. You
2:42:27
don't get a pass because you're funny here Arnold. But that was
2:42:31
funny. I thought that was pretty good.
2:42:33
John C Dvorak: I want to give ourselves some kudos for picking
2:42:38
up on something somebody accidentally said. And here's
2:42:41
the kudos clip. Second carrier group is on its way and
2:42:44
Secretary
2:42:45
Unknown: of Defense Lloyd Austin says the US will send a second
2:42:47
carrier group will west as Dwight D. Eisenhower to the
2:42:51
eastern Mediterranean to help to tour the widening of the war
2:42:54
between Israel and Hamas. This carrier joins the Gerald R Ford
2:42:58
Carrier Strike Group which arrived earlier this week.
2:43:02
Adam Curry: You know, all the vets are all worried about was
2:43:04
it the Phoenix that Israel attacked?
2:43:10
John C Dvorak: Liberty back in the day? No, it was at Liberty
2:43:12
at Liberty, the USS Liberty that the Israelis killed a bunch of
2:43:16
American soldiers. They're covered guys. Yeah.
2:43:19
Adam Curry: The Libya. Yeah. They're all worried about it.
2:43:22
Like this is not good. This is very dangerous.
2:43:26
John C Dvorak: Well, they still don't trust anybody after that
2:43:28
Liberty experience. And that thing is still been covered up.
2:43:30
It's it's been suppressed to this day.
2:43:33
Adam Curry: Yeah. Yes. Yes. Well, it's on the wiki but still
2:43:38
kind of not know. Alright, since we're doing kudos, bow just give
2:43:43
kudos to myself for calling this one a long time ago.
2:43:46
Unknown: The president is expected to arrive later this
2:43:48
afternoon. We know among the topics we'll be discussing is
2:43:52
the Mid Atlantic hydrogen hub, which the White House expects
2:43:55
we'll bring about 40,000 jobs to our region. Take a look at this.
2:43:59
Here's what we are expecting. You know, the President will be
2:44:01
here with the energy secretary. They're announcing seven
2:44:05
regional clean hydrogen hubs that were selected to receive $7
2:44:09
billion in funding to accelerate the domestic market for low cost
2:44:12
clean hydrogen. According to the White House hydrogen, which is a
2:44:16
clean fuel helps the US reduce emissions while creating jobs
2:44:20
and building healthier communities. Now we know that
2:44:23
mid atlantic hub will be in Pennsylvania, New Jersey and
2:44:26
Delaware again, creating 1000s of jobs. We will have the latest
2:44:30
on that announcement when it happens.
2:44:32
Adam Curry: Clean Energy clean hydrogen. This scam is here now.
2:44:38
Clean hydrogen $7 billion
2:44:44
John C Dvorak: for good news story. I didn't know this was
2:44:45
happening. You know they're throwing money at this 7
2:44:48
Adam Curry: billion. Yeah, that's a lot. $7 billion for
2:44:52
clean hydrogen. Crazy. All right. I promised the story
2:44:56
about Wisconsin.
2:44:57
Unknown: Now is time for our friends now. was initiated.
2:45:02
Adam Curry: Yes, trans Maoism continues just because there's
2:45:05
that we do have a war and it's covering up a lot and but we
2:45:09
still will stay on the stories that matter. This is a video
2:45:14
that is from Canadian Broadcasting Corporation kids
2:45:17
news, CBC kids news. Kids do kid's news and it is being used
2:45:23
in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders. It is animated kind of
2:45:27
like, no agenda animated, no agenda, that style a little,
2:45:32
little more purposeful. Both kids are brown. The mom looks
2:45:37
Asian, the dad looks Mexican or Latin X. The baby in the story
2:45:44
is white. So it's a very, it's a very polarizing visuals. And we
2:45:49
can stop it anytime you want. But I think it's worth listening
2:45:52
to the entire thing again, this is for children's CBC kids news.
2:45:56
You can find it right there on YouTube. They broadcast it on
2:45:58
television, and now in Wisconsin schools for fourth graders.
2:46:05
Unknown: Oh,
2:46:07
Hi, baby. Are you a boy or girl? Funny you should ask Syd. One of
2:46:12
the first things they check when a new baby is born is what kind
2:46:16
of body parts they have. They do that to determine a baby sex.
2:46:20
Most of the time, it's easy to determine. And sometimes it's
2:46:24
more complicated. This one has a penis. Boy, this one has a
2:46:29
vulva. It's girls.
2:46:31
Adam Curry: I gotta stop it right there. Why do they use
2:46:34
vulva instead of vagina? What is the reasoning behind that?
2:46:39
John C Dvorak: Well that now that you stopped it because I
2:46:41
would have said well I'm gonna dumb thing to say. I have to.
2:46:46
I'm glad you stopped it because now we have to discuss this.
2:46:49
Yes. Here's the reason there's these things are not done
2:46:52
without
2:46:53
Adam Curry: cola troll room. Not Volvo, Volvo Volvo I love being
2:47:03
childish. 15 forever, right? But why? Why? Why? Why?
2:47:09
John C Dvorak: The vulva is the global term that describes all
2:47:13
of the structures that make the female external genitalia. The
2:47:17
components of the vulva, or the mons pubis, labia majora, labia,
2:47:23
minerale, clitoris, okay, this bigger vulva, Deborah, blah,
2:47:28
blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, whole bunch of
2:47:30
stuff and the and the vaginal opening. So this is a new one
2:47:35
that they're trying to push.
2:47:36
Adam Curry: It's only the external stuff. It's only the
2:47:39
stuff you can see on the outside what it
2:47:41
John C Dvorak: says. Interesting. Yeah, just the
2:47:43
external.
2:47:44
Unknown: It's more complicated. This one has a penis. Boy, this
2:47:49
one has a MOBA girl. Congratulations. Oh, let's hit
2:47:55
the brakes. People. The way your body looks on the outside is
2:47:59
only part of the story. One, stay with me gang. This is
2:48:05
important. I live. Your six refers to your physical body
2:48:10
parts, remember, but there is also something called Gender,
2:48:13
which is how you feel inside your body and who you know
2:48:16
yourself to be and your gender. How you feel on the inside.
2:48:21
doesn't always match the sex you recalled when you were born.
2:48:25
Okay, let's say you were born with a penis and you feel like a
2:48:28
boy inside. In that case, your sex and your gender match? Well,
2:48:32
what if you were born with a penis? And you know your girl
2:48:35
inside? It's not a boy, then your sex and your gender don't
2:48:38
match? Wait, what's those know your girl inside mean anyway?
2:48:42
Does that mean you have to love pink things and princesses?
2:48:45
Nope. Sometimes people refer to things as girl things and boy
2:48:49
things but this is just how people sometimes classify
2:48:52
things, usually to make it easier to sell stuff to kids and
2:48:55
their parents.
2:48:56
Adam Curry: So so the reason why we call boys boys and girls
2:49:02
Girls is for people to ease make it easier to sell stuff. That's
2:49:09
an interesting take.
2:49:12
John C Dvorak: It's just how does that work in a communist
2:49:15
country? Or, or tribal organization where this was
2:49:18
capitalism doesn't apply if there's no capital. So are they
2:49:21
saying that? I'm just guessing here? Are they saying that? It
2:49:27
this is the problem? Capitalism is causing this issue? Because
2:49:30
if there was no capitalism, you wouldn't have this? Yeah. Then
2:49:32
then we wouldn't have confusion if there's no capitalism.
2:49:35
Correct. I don't see where that's going.
2:49:39
Unknown: Close toys and games are for everyone. You don't have
2:49:42
to be a boy or a girl to like a certain thing. Said, has anyone
2:49:47
ever told you that you shouldn't say with something or wear
2:49:49
something because you're a boy will? Yes. The body parts you
2:49:54
were born with don't always dictate who you are, how you
2:49:58
feel or what you like to play with. That's such a relief
2:50:03
gender, how you feel? tells you who you are. And there are a
2:50:09
whole bunch of possibilities. Figuring out what feels right
2:50:13
for you is just part of growing up. Fine little cutie. You might
2:50:20
want to change that diaper sooner than later.
2:50:25
Adam Curry: Yeah, there you go. Hello, Canada. Good work. Good
2:50:29
work up there. And of course that that results and leads to
2:50:34
new stories like this to Italy
2:50:36
Unknown: now where a whole bunch of transgender men are entering
2:50:40
the miss Italy pageant after a pageant rep said transgender
2:50:44
women can't compete. Alright, let me lay this out for you.
2:50:47
Here. It's a little complicated. The organizer of the miss Italy
2:50:50
pageant said the pageant only allows people who were assigned
2:50:54
a female gender at birth to be in the competition, meaning
2:50:58
transgender women, men who became women would be excluded.
2:51:02
One transgender man named Frederico saw this and thought,
2:51:06
Well, hey, I was born female. So he decided to enter the pageant
2:51:11
under his birth name Frederica, even though he identifies as a
2:51:14
man now, that moment, then turned into a movement. One
2:51:17
LGBTQ group shared his entry on Facebook, encouraging other
2:51:21
transgender men to apply. And now more than 100 trans men have
2:51:26
entered the pageant, with some even being called to the next
2:51:29
stage of the competition.
2:51:32
Adam Curry: Jesus come quickly, this world what I find
2:51:39
fascinating is that no point does anyone state the obvious
2:51:43
that the whole idea of beauty contests is is crazy. No, no,
2:51:50
they don't see they don't see that.
2:51:52
John C Dvorak: Well, that used to be the thing. Yeah, they use
2:51:54
all your beauty competitions. And I mean, I'm sure you
2:51:57
remember, like 25 years ago? I sure do. Let's say everyone's
2:52:02
bitching and moaning about beauty contest. And we used to
2:52:04
do a review of all of them on this show me you know, recently.
2:52:07
Oh, yes. Yeah. Real. Yeah, we stopped doing it. Yeah. And the
2:52:11
main complaints, objectified women and a lot of out of out of
2:52:16
a bag. And then that died down for some unknown reason. Now we
2:52:21
got this. Yeah.
2:52:23
Adam Curry: It's, the whole thing is sad. Alright, I have a
2:52:28
John C Dvorak: two parter. It says you're on the transgender
2:52:30
thing that's played by visiting me dragging along this tick tock
2:52:34
clip is called tock tock tick, tock. transphobia, you have to
2:52:42
look it up from the last couple of shows. Oh, hold
2:52:44
Adam Curry: on. Talk, yes, I got it.
2:52:49
Unknown: If you are told that something you're doing is
2:52:51
transphobic. It is not your job to try to prove that it's not,
2:52:55
you are going to mess up. It is guaranteed. If you are told
2:52:59
information and you immediately reject and go, nope, that
2:53:01
doesn't fit my view of what transmits means you're not going
2:53:05
to be able to show up as an ally, because all you're worried
2:53:07
about is what you think and you feel abundant experience that's
2:53:11
not yours, it's going to be uncomfortable, it's going to be
2:53:13
confusing. And it's going to mean that you are going to have
2:53:16
to evaluate how gender is seeped into society, how it has
2:53:20
affected and shaped your life, how sis heteronormativity has
2:53:23
affected your life. And just because we're existing in front
2:53:26
of you does not mean that you get to ask or say whatever you
2:53:28
want. And that's supposed to be taken as a compliment. Questions
2:53:31
can be transphobic, compliments can be transphobic. And so
2:53:35
that's where it comes in, where a lot of the work with being an
2:53:39
ally, actually has to do with our own individual reflections
2:53:43
on how transphobic society has shaped the way that we think and
2:53:47
live and treat people. We don't need allies who are trying to
2:53:50
prove how good they are or who were asking for a pat on the
2:53:53
back or who are trying to seem nice, or who are worried about
2:53:56
what they look like. We need allies who are willing to stand
2:54:00
up for trans people and learn how to do that the
2:54:03
best that they can.
2:54:05
John C Dvorak: Yeah, by shutting up.
2:54:07
Adam Curry: You know, I gotta mention this. Do you remember
2:54:11
the podcast conference that I went to Podcast Movement? And I
2:54:15
do and they wanted? They wanted me on a panel. I said Who else?
2:54:17
Oh, it's this one, this one. And but you know, we can't have just
2:54:22
all white guys on the panel. So we invited this woman who knows
2:54:25
nothing about the topic because she's bipoc and that woman
2:54:29
because she's American descendants, but they didn't
2:54:32
know anything about the topic. And if they're not appropriate
2:54:36
for this topic here, we can't have four white guys on the
2:54:38
panel. I said, Well, you know what, you can have three because
2:54:40
I'm out. I'm not a part of this. So those very same guys, one of
2:54:45
them had, like a a, like a mini podcast conference, sold tickets
2:54:55
to it. It was in in Europe and Um, they got canceled. I mean,
2:55:02
they the events still went on but some black lesbians, who, as
2:55:07
it was described to me started calling up speakers they had
2:55:10
contracted and saying, there's no there's not enough black
2:55:13
people on this stage, not enough LGBTQ, you shouldn't go there.
2:55:18
And these were people who work for companies guess what, about
2:55:21
10% had to cancel. So the very people who are trying to protect
2:55:27
the, you know, the, the sensitivities of LGBTQ bipod
2:55:34
people were now being cancelled by those very same people.
2:55:37
They're great. What this what they never understand. It's like
2:55:41
it's going to be used against you. So you might as well take a
2:55:45
stand now, because it's going to come back to bite you in the ass
2:55:49
eventually. My final two Mom, I have a funny one. But on my
2:55:54
final two clips are COVID. Related, specifically,
2:56:00
vaccination, adverse events. Dr. Drew, who I we've played Dr.
2:56:07
Drew throughout the COVID period, the COVID years. I think
2:56:11
we both trust him. He's not always been in line with our
2:56:14
thinking we still have always played his his opinions because
2:56:17
he is a doctor. Well, boy, he had there's a new study out that
2:56:20
he read and he's kind of upset about it
2:56:22
Unknown: because the article came out this week in
2:56:24
circulation, which is a very fine high end. A cardiology
2:56:28
journal is called circulation. I've been throwing I've been
2:56:30
sending it around to people. And it showed it took my breath
2:56:34
away. I was I was shocked at how how what an indictment it was.
2:56:38
It showed that myocarditis was not that common and not that
2:56:41
uncommon in young males. Certainly more common than
2:56:45
severe COVID in that group, okay? So myocarditis more common
2:56:50
than severe COVID. So you're putting people at risk and
2:56:53
taking away little problems, okay? All right, the and then
2:56:58
you've heard all this it just myocarditis, as you might use it
2:57:01
for itself limited somebody myocarditis throughout my career
2:57:04
as a medical emergency. And now this article showed for the
2:57:09
first time that about half of the kids, these are adolescent
2:57:12
males who got myocarditis are going to have lifelong cardiac
2:57:18
dysfunction, which means a significant percentage are going
2:57:22
to end up in heart failure, hopefully at an advanced age,
2:57:25
but if not, on the transplant list.
2:57:28
Adam Curry: So this comes the very same week that the Nobel
2:57:32
Prize for let me see what the actual title is. Physiology and
2:57:38
Medicine is given to the inventors of mRNA. Yeah. And so
2:57:45
there's a Chinese journalist at this, this little event, asks a
2:57:49
question about long term effects of mRNA. I'm going to tell you
2:57:51
what she said, because she's a little difficult to hear, then
2:57:54
we will hear the answer from the first scientists receiving this
2:57:58
Nobel Prize. And then the second one
2:58:01
Unknown: was AC sizing media from China, and waste the mRNA.
2:58:06
We don't know the long term effect yet. So do we have any
2:58:10
concern over that?
2:58:14
Record? Would you like to respond to that question?
2:58:21
Yes, of course, you know, mRNA vaccines have only been given
2:58:25
for a certain amount of time, which begs the question, having
2:58:28
said that, of course, the mRNA vaccine that is given is very
2:58:32
transient, and the fact that 13 billion people have gotten the
2:58:36
virus, vaccine virus. And oops, I mean, the the amount of side
2:58:42
effects noted today, it is extremely limited. So I don't
2:58:47
think it's a it's a major concern.
2:58:49
Adam Curry: So first, this guy gaffes, it says, Oh, 13 billion
2:58:52
people have been known. What do you say he's having with him
2:58:55
crazy amounts have been given. I mean, given the virus, I mean,
2:58:58
virus, I mean, the vaccine, let's ask the other guy. And
2:59:02
when asked to that, or that's fine. Oh, yes. I think that's
2:59:07
yeah, say so.
2:59:08
Unknown: Well, it can't be integrated into the nucleus into
2:59:12
the net. And that's, you know, a safety precaution. The adverse
2:59:17
effects, that's been noted is mostly mild. My court it is
2:59:24
apparent myocarditis, mainly affecting young males. But that
2:59:31
normally resolves without any short term effects.
2:59:36
Adam Curry: Oh. So these guys are getting a Nobel Peace Prize
2:59:40
while the tonale a Nobel Prize. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. I'm sorry.
2:59:47
Thank you for correcting me. The outrage is still there. They're
2:59:50
getting a Nobel Prize for this technology and they sit there
2:59:54
stone cold face and as just limited. It resolves itself well
3:00:00
The top publication says this is horrible. And Dr. Drew says this
3:00:05
is you're going to be in the transplant list. What is wrong
3:00:10
with the world?
3:00:13
John C Dvorak: But there seems to be a disconnect between
3:00:17
something and something. And I think one of those symptoms is
3:00:20
money.
3:00:22
Adam Curry: Yeah, yeah. Unfortunately for the love of
3:00:25
money is the root of all evil does seem to hold true. Unless
3:00:31
you've got something,
3:00:32
John C Dvorak: let me take one quick look and see if there's
3:00:34
anything that's is I got one kind of an odd ball clip, which
3:00:38
maybe is worth playing. Gotta military gotta synced Biden,
3:00:43
succinct comments on NPR is always a good way to go out. And
3:00:49
then I have a weird Mexican education deal, which is like
3:00:51
what
3:00:52
Adam Curry: what? Well, you tell me which one you want.
3:00:56
John C Dvorak: I would say this play the weird Mexican
3:00:59
educational deal. And you tell me what's going on here.
3:01:02
Unknown: under a new law low income mesco Mexican residents
3:01:05
living near the California border can now go to some state
3:01:08
community colleges at in state tuition levels. The law creates
3:01:13
a pilot program for some Mexicans who want to attend
3:01:15
certain community colleges in Southern California and we'll
3:01:18
run through 2029. The law is designed to help low income
3:01:21
Mexicans who live within 45 miles of the California border
3:01:25
to get an education and prepare for jobs. Under the new program
3:01:29
students would pay $46 A unit in state as opposed to $307 a unit
3:01:34
out of state. That's according to a legislative analysis.
3:01:37
Similar tuition programs are available at least 24 states
3:01:40
including Texas, Arizona, and New Mexico.
3:01:44
John C Dvorak: Due to literally Mexicans, New Mexico.
3:01:50
Adam Curry: I don't know what's going on. And meanwhile, do you
3:01:54
know what the most emailed clip is that I've received this week?
3:01:57
Can you even it's 12 I don't want to get 12 seconds of it.
3:02:00
It's a little longer but can you just imagine what people are
3:02:03
asking me as an audio expert?
3:02:07
John C Dvorak: Oh, they're asking you this AI are asking if
3:02:09
it's to be edited. Yep.
3:02:11
Adam Curry: And it's the same clip. Do dude, listen to this?
3:02:16
Did AOC fart on camera
3:02:19
Unknown: and to ensure that horrors do not happen in the
3:02:23
names of victims who do not want their tragedy used to justify
3:02:29
further violence and injustice?
3:02:32
Adam Curry: Wow, she farted on camera. This is the number one
3:02:36
email clip
3:02:37
John C Dvorak: guess what everyone cares about
3:02:40
Adam Curry: them this is why we're never going to be rich.
3:02:45
Ever, ever, ever ever. All right. We got a little bit of
3:02:50
Iran stuffs ended up with we got Billy Bones Billy Bones with a
3:02:55
live show mix. We got what else we got here we got some C is
3:03:04
Donald Winkler as the other one. And the classic classic that you
3:03:09
heard earlier in the show. If you are listening that is you
3:03:11
might have heard that coming up next on no agenda stream we've
3:03:15
got behind the scheme's always special guests Graham from
3:03:21
primerica There you go. Keep it here, draw room.io Or keep
3:03:25
listening in your brand spankin new podcast and coming to you
3:03:29
from the heart of the Texas hill country here in FEMA Region
3:03:32
number six in the morning, everybody. I'm Adam curry.
3:03:35
John C Dvorak: And from Northern Silicon Valley. I'm John
3:03:38
Cedarburg. We return
3:03:39
Adam Curry: on Thursday, which will be episode 1600 get your
3:03:44
PhD until then remember us at DeVore act.org/na We'll see you
3:03:50
then everybody adios mofos such
3:04:04
Unknown: we need to kill them we need to kill them bomb them bomb
3:04:13
them bomb them and bomb them again
3:04:36
we need to kill them we need to kill them bomb then bomb them
3:04:47
and bomb them again a bomb them again a bomb the bomb them and
3:04:56
bomb them again a bomb them again. plomin
3:05:06
Kill them bomb them and kill them bomb them again. on them
3:05:22
again we need to kill them off them again on them again we need
3:05:31
to kill them and bomb them again.
3:05:36
Thank you so much for being here and please be safe
3:05:38
John C Dvorak: this is the stay safe medley one of the I think
3:05:41
MSNBC host and this is what she does.
3:05:44
Unknown: Thank you so much for being here tonight. And please
3:05:46
stay safe
3:05:47
John C Dvorak: because it was just a matter of course and
3:05:49
again I'm reminded of people's reminding people to
3:05:51
Unknown: Colorado Secretary of State Jennifer as well thank you
3:05:54
so much for being here tonight. Please
3:05:56
John C Dvorak: think of miles Gibbler
3:06:01
Unknown: NBC News correspondent Thompson thank you so much for
3:06:04
being here tonight. And please stay safe. Stay safe and
3:06:09
journalists out there. Thank you so much for your time tonight.
3:06:12
Please stay safe. HMS was Timothy O'Brien thank you so
3:06:16
much for being here tonight. Please to save
3:06:19
John C Dvorak: life secret. Representative Jeremy Gray. I
3:06:23
want to thank you for your time tonight. And please stay safe
3:06:26
file handler Hitler enough John, stay safe. Child Hitler. Hitler
3:06:41
and please
3:06:45
Adam Curry: stay safe.
3:06:47
John C Dvorak: Kyle Hitler
3:06:48
Unknown: bomb bomb bomb bom bom bom Iran. Bom bom, bom
3:07:07
bom Mofo vorak.org/in. a dystopian nightmare.
0:00 0:00