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November 7th, 2019 • 3h 2m

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now that's what I call talent Adam curry
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John C. Dvorak this is your
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award-winning keep on Asian media
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assassination episode 1188 this is no
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agenda airport in the capital of Gitmo
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nation lowlands in the morning everybody
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by Adam Curry and from northern
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Silicon Valley where we're fogged in and
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it's gonna be kind of chilly I'm John
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Cena boring hey John bogged in 45
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degrees people airport amsterdam brainy
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grey skies and it's nighttime and at
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least it was nice how I didn't say that
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I said it's horrible is gray she said it
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was nice when did I say that
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when I first hooked up who said what ago
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you said what's the word show and I said
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gray and you heard noise oh I thought
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you said great ah certainly wasn't nice
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no you said great I said great well you
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left out to tea well drop your G like a
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millennial and I just thought you said
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meant great that's on the schedule
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that's great we will be discussing that
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on the show today
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is great however for a for a brief
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moment yesterday people my temporary
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home was the center of the universe over
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here what that news got over here I know
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I'm totally timing my clips and you just
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jumped right in I'll try again so we can
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edit it later we were the center of the
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universe good evening the world held its
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breath for hours late today after word
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of a possible airplane hijack drama
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unfolding in Amsterdam a signal
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mistakenly transmitted from the cockpit
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of a Madrid bound airplane indicating a
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hijack was in progress triggered a
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full-on military and police response and
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reminded us all that when it comes to
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aviation security there is no taking
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chances kelly cobiella starts us off at
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one of the busiest airports in the world
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tonight a major security scare planes
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stranded at gates after Dutch police got
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a hijacking alert from the cockpit of a
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plane that hadn't taken off flights
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delayed parts of the airport closed
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nearly two hours later it was over the
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airline Air Europa explaining on Twitter
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the alert was activated by mistake
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nothing has happened all passengers are
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safe and sound
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50 million travelers fly through
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Amsterdam's Schiphol Airport every year
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last-minute passengers were evacuated
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after a man claimed to have a bomb
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police arrested a 51 year old Canadian
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but found no explosives tonight Dutch
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military police tell us they're still
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investigating what sparked today's
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hijacking alarm Lester Wright kelly
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cobiella with those anxious moments
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though oh yes thanks very anxious
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moments I was not in the hotel I was at
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Christina's house in Rotterdam but taxi
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Eric was here because he's always
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driving people to and from the airport
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he said he had never seen so many blue
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lights in all the years he's worked near
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the airport he says it
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completely filled it was a mess and
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everybody wanted know what's happening
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there were reports that there were
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stabbings and there were the craziest no
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one knew anything and quite honestly I
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was sitting with Christina and Shanta
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we're smoking dope you know like you
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know whatever you know we'll figure out
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later but Eric was texting me updates
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people are sending me emails like you
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okay
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and that's always interesting how that
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goes well I appreciate it you know it's
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nice that people think of me in that way
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we got a little bit of information
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within an hour or so on CNN I'll play a
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bit of this you know there's an
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emergency involving one of its planes
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military says passengers and crew are
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safely off the plane I've taught it's
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called a suspicious situation aboard an
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aircraft emergency services had flocked
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to the airport and there was a major
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incident underway kick robertson is
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following this in London and Nick I
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forgive you that you like to enjoy of
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telling us what air europa says was the
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reason why are you Reaper says that it
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was a mistake onboard the aircraft that
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the warning that it was triggered by
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mistake of warning was triggered by
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mistake at this point that's where I'm
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tuning out I'm like okay they have no
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idea what they're talking about so I do
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know what happened and it's it's really
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it's an odd one and it's stupid but also
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odd on every aircraft that fly is
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certainly commercial you have a
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transponder and the transponder is a
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little box that has four digits on it's
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very simple and the transponder you're
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asked to set a code in there and that's
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what then radar can read that and and
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identify you by the code they just gave
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you so my plane would be you know eight
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five to nine and when you see under
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radar yes flight or flight radar exactly
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and the Box also broadcast position at
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broadcasts
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air speed altitude etc this box the way
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you activate it is you there's really
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two they're two models kind of and one
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is you'll set each number when just
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tapping up or down literally like an up
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or down button and then you press
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another button and it's activated
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there's the newer models I would say or
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just different models you really only
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have to type in the four digits and then
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when you hit the fourth one it it starts
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to broadcast with that code there are a
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couple of special codes one is seven
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thousand seven zero zero zero which is
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used pretty much universally around the
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world there's a lot of people just
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flying under visual flight rules so
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Cessnas and stuff like that and so as
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long as they can see that there's that
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there's a lot of seven thousands and
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keep them away from each other than
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everything's good so you don't really to
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know specifics about those aircraft but
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we also have 7700 which is an emergency
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so you know it's going down you hit 7700
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and as soon as you're calling on the
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radio 7600 is if you have if you can't
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communicate with your radio doesn't
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necessarily mean you have an emergency
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but then they can say okay they have a
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radio problem 7500 is hijack so the
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story that I got locally was the captain
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of Air Europa was showing an intern huh
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stuff in the cockpit which sounds really
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sketchy so if he I can just imagine the
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guy uh captain captain Mary Oprah here
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let me just show you he pressing gives
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us an emerge a Kyle show you what we do
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baby
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we just hit 7500 and he did that and it
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start broadcasting 7500 so that shows up
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on the radar and that's just you know
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there's no calling down to say hey hey
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everything okay on that hijack now
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there's none of that it's an immediate
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they go to we learned a new code here in
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Holland crisp three I've never heard of
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this is like a DEFCON three or something
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for Dutch style and they called out
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everybody and and and so purely just a
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captain showing off to some intern
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well I think
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- the writers out there here we go
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you punched that code in by accident
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with this cock-and-bull story and then
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after about 10 5 minutes or 10 minutes
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and all the cops are headed your way
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you've robbed a bank
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I should have checked the news for
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anything else going on banks were robbed
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but it is strange I did talk to a
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journalist here who I know this morning
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and he said you know it's really odd
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Adam though because we we got very
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credible reports from people who really
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know what's going on at the airport that
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there were three people arrested for
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some stabbings as you know we can't get
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any knows no confirmation or denial so
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I'll just leave that for what it is but
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you know that's like two sources
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removing is a cover-up for the stabbings
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it could be it could be I mean it's easy
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enough any button can go in and you know
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talk to the captain and say look we're
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punching these numbers in just gonna
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shut up about it but anyway that was it
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so it was it was apparent it was odd how
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that how it spread so quickly you know
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stuff happens all over the world all the
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time I don't remember the world holding
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its breath for two hours in Europe they
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did in your bed Lester Holt had it in
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Europe they held their breath did they
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broke into the news they immediately
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stopped game shows it was great like oh
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we got something besides impeach Trump
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well and I wanted to have a little
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report of what's going on I've been
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paying attention
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maybe I should first say that I'm over
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here celebrating 100 years of radio in
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the Netherlands which they celebrated
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quite quite big I mean is every station
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had some tribute or something going on
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and it was the public broadcaster who I
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originally worked for way back in the
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day who flew me in to be a part of this
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one show and I basically spent time
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hanging out with some of these older
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DJ's you know they're in their 70s I
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figured huh I hang out with them for a
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bit and then maybe when I'm an old an
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old geezer he'll come visit me so it was
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you know kind of nice to reconnect but I
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had a lot of time also to watch
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all news channels and I have to tell you
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there is not a lot of Trump news in the
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EU right now it's it's it's as if it
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just doesn't matter and it probably
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doesn't they have so much going on here
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with climate crisis that's the top news
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which of course we hear almost nothing
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about in the US well not to the extreme
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of extinction rebellion oh yeah oh no
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extinction rebellion there is a lot that
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they're talking about here couple things
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so we'll get the climate crisis in a
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moment the Dutch schools now this is a
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socialist country now it's a democracy
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with a monarchy and their socialist it's
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a fantastic combination the result is
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that it's really nothing works the big
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three it really is and I was watching a
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talk show last night and you know the
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teachers are rarely satisfied but they
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are there's a shortage right now of 6600
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teachers you know people just don't want
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to go into the into the profession
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anymore and when you heard these
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teachers talking about what the
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profession is these days I don't can't
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blame people and I had her I made a note
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of this a couple weeks ago when a friend
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of mine was in town his daughter who's
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it also a teacher she was telling me
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some of this but was nice to see the
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talk show these schools are like
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computerized zombie factories the
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teachers have to keep profiles of every
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student and have to make sure that any
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other they have two check boxes all day
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long if the student is paying attention
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or not paying attention
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they say there's so much work that they
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have to do administratively just to make
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sure the kids are okay and of course
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there's kids who are slower learning are
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forced to be in the same classroom as
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the kids who are on a normal curriculum
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and so teachers have to split their
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times it's it's a mess it's trying to
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make everybody happy at the same time
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and all this spying basically on the
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kids it's very odd so they're gonna go
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on strike they can't do it anymore
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they've classes of 50 kids and that's a
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lot
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so there's no teaching involved in the
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profession anymore no it's no the
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teaching and this is the complaint it's
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like they're really relegated to data
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input as they observe these children
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because the the testing is all comes
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from the computer they're doing all the
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scores you know everything's done
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through the computer the curriculum is
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from the computer they can't really
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deviate from the curriculum and you know
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they say well I have ideas about how I
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want to teach kids about a certain
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subject it's like no no you got to
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follow it's basically like common core
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plus wow it's really bad
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hmm so healthcare which as you know is
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kind of a version of Obamacare here
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where everything is socialized it is a
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giant Medicare but you still get your
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insurance for it very cheaply I think
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it's a hundred and thirty-five euros but
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you know per person it's a really quite
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quite cheap on a monthly basis for what
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per month per person per month it's over
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a hundred euros a month yes so it's
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$1,200 per person per per year for our
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1200 euros every year yeah
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that's not cheap it's only socialized
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medicine to me sounds like 10% of what I
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pay well not the fact that you're
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getting ripped off okay but but it is
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socialized at the where and this is what
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they're running into so first of all
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doctors are leaving I think we've talked
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about this because in order to have all
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doctors working and make it all fair or
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whatever the hell it is everybody works
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32 hours a week so but you get paid for
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32 hours a week so like and people it's
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not enough it's not enough to get by and
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now because they they buy all the
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medication centrally there's a shortage
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of masses of medicine there's like a
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pipeline problem yeah well you know we
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never want to order too much in advance
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we were negotiating in the contract and
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people can't get really simple things
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like lipitor and you know the other you
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know I didn't specifically mention blood
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pressure medication just really normal
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stuff over the counter
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it's backlogged and people can't get it
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and they go to the Appetit curry and
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it's like no sorry you didn't come back
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there's no generics no no's no brand
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names nothing
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something else people never think about
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when the government runs it what happens
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if fell a glitch occurs in their supply
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chain
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it sounds like well I think some
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governments could probably do a better
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job
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for sure the Dutch good it's just when
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you think of the Dutch you don't think
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of these types of problems then it's
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it's kind of eye-opening
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I guess the Dutch in a way to most
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countries outside of Europe you know to
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Americans certainly kind of back up
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Scandinavians yeah they look a bit like
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I'm so-and-so you don't expect that
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let's see what else oh yes wouldn't
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expect it no so then we get into I mean
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this country's has problem after problem
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so the farmers I I tell you great pains
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to understand the issues and it was and
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everyone has a slightly different
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explanation but I can give you the short
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version first which is the farmers were
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told to do everything a certain way to a
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lot of them are only making hay and
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literally just hay so it's just grass
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and they can't really mean that just be
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making hay on it for so long that the
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there's not much left to build you know
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you have to you know the whole soil is
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just poor and they've been doing that
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for you know five or ten years and then
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all of a sudden the government turned
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around and said well now we're changing
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the rules and well you've produced too
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much and I have to cut everything back
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by 50% so that's why there that's the
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basis of them being so pissed off it's
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like a when you told us what to do and
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then you turn it around and are you
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gonna chop everything in half and that's
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literally their business gets chopped in
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half according to the CEO two numbers
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that they are are not allowed to be
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producing some of the details of that is
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the way they've measured the co2 if at
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all but lots of farm lands in the
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Netherlands you've driven through the
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country highways go right through it so
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there's a lot of co2 around these areas
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because of the highway not because of
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the land use so there's that argument
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and then the construction sector and
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this is like it's as if someone in
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Holland in the government wants to bring
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the country into recession they came up
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with this crazy number of PFS now P fast
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PFA ap FAS I guess is what we would call
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hydro fluoride hydrocarbons Florek
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carbon
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life pflueger's something like that it's
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a pflueger's Lucas it's like the town
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like - come on Giggy
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what's the Teflon yeah that's the what's
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Teflon made of it's not you mention it
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Lucas
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we'll get back to it it's made of Lucas
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so you know this so that's in the ground
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everywhere yeah yeah because it's the
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Netherlands it's industrial waste you
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know in America when we have industrial
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wastes we're much smarter about it we
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buy it from the factories and then we
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turn it into pure fluoride and slap it
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into our drinking water in Holland they
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don't do that they just turn you know
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put it into the water yes
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Teflon is poly tetra fluoro ethylene
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yeah some of that stuff ATF yeah yes
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yeah PTFE so I think normally like a
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hundred micrograms per kilogram is
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acceptable and that's pretty much what
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Germany has I think that's the number I
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know that the difference is in scale
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that now the Dutch government said we
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you know you really can't do anything if
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there's zero point one microgram
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microgram per kilogram in the ground and
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if there is you can't go digging in it
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but you know apparently there's zero
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point one microgram of this stuff
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everywhere and so that is halted
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construction halted all these permits
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and so they're now talking about special
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payments for people who are out of a job
18:47
because of this decision they've made it
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sounds wack well the only way I can
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explain it is with climate change number
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first of all it's the only thing you
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hear about until pretty much what you're
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hearing about continuously throughout
19:02
the day they sure taking the concept of
19:05
climate crisis seriously well the net
19:08
see here's the thing ever since the
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European Union really came at to came to
19:14
being as an institution that runs the
19:17
show the Dutch political class and I'm
19:20
sure it's the same for the Germans in
19:22
the French etc they now no longer have
19:25
this ceiling you know you could get to
19:27
be Prime Minister and you know then what
19:29
else
19:29
now everybody they all want to be in
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Europe that's where the real power is
19:34
and so you can see how they're all
19:36
lobbying remember our guy from steamer
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mounds he was trying to become the new
19:40
Starfleet commander
19:41
that's that's they all want to jump off
19:44
of that that that springboard of Dutch
19:48
politics into Europe so they can be the
19:51
boss there and so for this reason
19:53
they're making all these really you know
19:56
climate conscious decisions but they're
19:58
going overboard for instance I didn't
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even realize it but you cannot operate
20:03
as a taxi at Schiphol unless your
20:07
battery car that's why there's all these
20:09
Tesla's I didn't realize that bid has
20:11
been in effect for almost two years so
20:14
you if you have a just a regular taxi
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and it's not electric and you can't even
20:19
park there and pick up customers that's
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one can you drop people off yes you can
20:24
drop people off but that'll be forbidden
20:25
to I mean you're already in the process
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it foregone conclusion oh yeah already
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in parts of Amsterdam you drive into the
20:31
city and it says if you have a diesel
20:33
older than 2009 you're not allowed in so
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and yeah of course they scan you and
20:40
they'll get you immediately if you do do
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it
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they are lowering well it's not done yet
20:47
but because of this crisis all of a
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sudden which really didn't seem to exist
20:51
except they made up some new numbers and
20:54
it became a crisis they're now talking
20:57
about lowering the speed limit from 130
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kilometers per hour to a hundred do you
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have any idea what this does to a
21:04
country when you say this kind of stuff
21:06
people freaked out over that it's like
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then what is the what is the equivalents
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on those kilometer per hour numbers so
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it's 1.85 so I just put it in the
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machine okay hey John put it in the in
21:23
the machine how much is 130 miles an
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hour
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homeowners an hour yeah 80 80 so they
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want to bring it back to what is it
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65 62 I'm guessing 62 63 something like
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that
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the machine is very slow 62.1 there you
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go
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it's slow but accurate yes so they want
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people to drive it basically 60 miles an
21:56
hour instead of 80 yeah that VM with the
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kind of traffic flows and how long it
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takes people to get through traffic here
22:04
anyway that's that's a definite social
22:07
conversation and now they're talking
22:09
about bringing back the car free Sundays
22:12
which I remember when I in the 70s they
22:16
had Sunday's where you weren't allowed
22:18
to drive it's just the whole country did
22:20
not it was in the paper today they want
22:25
to bring it back now here's some other
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cool numbers for the climate emergency
22:30
it'll stop climate change immediately
22:32
gone this is seriously what they're
22:35
saying and otherwise of course we're all
22:37
going to die this the number of electric
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vehicles in the Netherlands per know
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thousand people or whatever the metric
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is is more than double that of any other
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country in the EU and for this little
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country smaller than Rhode Island twenty
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five of all charging stations are of all
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charging stations in the European Union
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are in the Netherlands
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they're just doing this I can only see
23:07
it as them doing for themselves sounds
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like somebody did a great job hello Elan
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doing some lobbying or creating this
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nonsense this is what marketing is
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really all about by the way well for
23:23
people out there wondering about
23:24
marketing this is what marketing is
23:26
about well I'll tell you the people are
23:28
not liking it they are really not buying
23:31
it at all
23:32
and we'll see ya there Jack well
23:37
probably not but you know everyone still
23:41
is behind the farmers you know they all
23:43
like what the farmers did and and
23:45
there's a massive support for the
23:48
farmers rights if anyone can do anything
23:51
after all it the Dutch government
23:53
brought in the military they were so
23:55
afraid of the farmers coming to the
23:56
Hague now if anyone's gonna do anything
23:59
no then then it might be them but for
24:04
now maybe the Dutch are just docile as
24:06
ever I do have to connect to this a
24:11
couple of climate change things that
24:13
might make sense to just go into for a
24:15
moment well I'm all game we have a new
24:19
reporters out
24:22
11,000 scientists worldwide warning of
24:27
catastrophic threats to humanity 8th and
24:31
this is really a fear-mongering rotation
24:33
item what we'd really like to see though
24:35
is governments using the indicators that
24:37
we've reported in our paper the
24:39
indicators we put there are quite broad
24:41
and track all of the different things
24:43
that are interlinked with climate change
24:45
and I think these broad indicators can
24:48
help governments to paint a picture
24:49
about how they are dealing with the
24:51
threat of climate change we outline six
24:54
kind of critical key steps that we think
24:56
are necessary to reducing greenhouse gas
24:59
emissions and top of that list is a
25:03
switch or a move away from fossil fuels
25:06
to using more renewable energy sources
25:09
and also one thing that risen really
25:12
isn't considered in detail when talking
25:14
about climate change is human population
25:17
growth and we need to factor in human
25:19
population growth when thinking about
25:21
the policies and government directions
25:24
in dealing with climate change I think
25:26
we're back to eat your babies because
25:27
this is the problem there's too many
25:29
people we're back to the Population Bomb
25:33
yeah I think we've been back to I think
25:35
we were at the Population Bomb the whole
25:38
time
25:40
I really left it and I think climate
25:42
change is just another version of it
25:44
well it's it seems to be the guys still
25:46
alive pronouncing saying the same stuff
25:48
nor what net seems it seems to be the
25:51
message once again said up shut up
25:54
slaves there's too many of you and that
25:57
was the what I understood was eaters yes
26:00
that that's what I saw is the as the
26:06
yeah the main driver of this report is
26:08
it has too many people too many people
26:10
so then we have the protests of course
26:15
extinction rebellion is reasonably well
26:18
known here they have they have some
26:23
things going on in the Netherlands of
26:25
course the UK is where it's really
26:26
taking place but we do have a group in
26:28
the United States who was affiliated
26:30
trying to really get some attention for
26:32
this and they this is the fire drill
26:35
Friday's which I think I mentioned on
26:38
the previous show no I did Jane Fonda is
26:41
a member of fire drill Fridays and they
26:44
now yes and now they send out media
26:47
alerts and I have a media alert here
26:51
from you know this is what you do you
26:53
you have a can you buy these lists or D
26:57
is there a central place that you can
26:59
pay to send your media alert to John
27:01
yeah yeah there's about three or four of
27:03
them and what does a lot of companies
27:04
will do it what does that cost that
27:06
expensive to put out a media advisory no
27:09
it's not it's not expensive at all it's
27:12
actually it's pretty cheap so here's
27:14
what it came in for for fire drill
27:17
Friday media media advisory for action
27:20
action action on November 8 Jane Fonda
27:23
will risk arrest sounds like they're
27:31
trying to make her sound like Houdini
27:35
she's so brave she'll risk this is so I
27:39
think I said the last time I really like
27:42
Jane Fonda this is a ho so hard but she
27:45
went on the view to talk about this and
27:49
I just had to share this this clip to
27:52
see I mean she's all she's
27:54
we're all gonna die and then at the end
27:56
something interesting happens which I
27:58
think Oh take us into another topic but
28:01
are you are you trying to tell the next
28:02
generation coming up go as far as you
28:04
can break the law get arrested do what
28:06
you need to do well I am following what
28:09
the young people are doing I'm not
28:10
telling them they're inspiring me not
28:12
just Greta Doon Berg Berg Berg this is
28:21
the best one ever
28:22
and they're inspiring me not just Greta
28:24
dune Berg Greta doom bug doom burn
28:32
they're inspiring me not just greta dune
28:35
burn no it's doom berg there we go
28:38
that's a doom bird I'm telling them
28:44
they're inspiring me not just greta doom
28:47
berg the swedish student but the sunrise
28:51
movement the extinction movement I mean
28:54
all these young people who are leaving
28:56
school to protest their future that
28:58
we're taking from them and they're a
29:01
huge inspiration to me see these young
29:03
people carrying the burden of protesting
29:05
the fossil fuel industry I say no no
29:08
we've got to get out there and join them
29:10
and do it without breaking the law you
29:13
think of all the peaceful protests that
29:14
have led to change I worry about living
29:16
in an uncivil society oh no I agree with
29:19
you but you know something climate
29:20
activists have been doing this for 40
29:23
years we've been writing articles and
29:24
we've been giving speeches then climate
29:27
shame she says climate activists a bit
29:33
doing this for 40 years and the climate
29:36
has not change 40 years we've been
29:38
writing articles and we've been giving
29:41
speeches we've been putting the facts
29:43
out to the American public and
29:45
politicians and we've marched and we've
29:47
rallied peacefully and here comes the
29:50
fossil fuel industry is doing more and
29:53
more and more to harm us in our
29:54
environment and the our young people's
29:57
futures and so we have to up the ante
29:59
and engage in civil disobedience which
30:01
means risking getting arrested and
30:03
because it's going to require more
30:06
more and more and more people like all
30:07
of you in the streets demanding even the
30:11
scientists nerdy and neutral but even
30:17
the scientists the climate scientists
30:20
sir do you hear what I hear
30:24
but did I know what listen carefully
30:28
[Applause]
30:32
neutral but is she saying scientists or
30:35
she saying scientists I think she's
30:39
saying a guy played a couple she's
30:41
saying scientists scientists John she's
30:52
been infected Jane Fonda well she's been
30:58
infected with the T drop thing she's
31:03
she's hanging out with doom Berg and
31:05
before you know it you start speaking
31:07
like this nerdy a neutral but even the
31:12
scientists this is we're not going to be
31:17
able to turn it around we have eleven
31:19
years to avoid people just by the
31:25
millions in the streets folks out there
31:28
we only have Olivia eleven years they've
31:31
been doing this for 40 years have me
31:33
only now we have 11 left but to hear
31:36
Jane Fonda
31:39
start to drop her T's is employed well I
31:45
this is this was the most responded to
31:48
topic from the last show was we had a
31:53
lot of a lot of a lot of people I do
31:56
have one clip to add to that I want to
31:59
play this clip tell me if you can figure
32:00
out the what might be happening here
32:04
I think I cheated a little bit mm-hmm
32:08
let me find the clip just grab my clip
32:11
list here
32:13
and of course I can't find anything very
32:17
slick oh yeah I knew I'm not pulling at
32:20
you but you build up the clip and then
32:24
don't find no build up no build up here
32:28
ladies and gentlemen who build up
32:32
pal brother
32:35
no oh don't tell me you forgot it no I I
32:40
just don't see I don't think I forgot it
32:45
okay well go on with your story well you
32:47
keep looking at it maybe hey people show
32:50
up well there was some more vocal fry'
32:52
that identified and then and I would
32:54
like to share a piece a couple fees
32:56
pieces of faeces of peed back some
32:58
pieces let me guess was it unplugged
33:02
yeah that's the one I had queued up I
33:05
guessed it right does it need to set up
33:07
well this is a podcast called unplugged
33:11
and it pretty much like use a lot of No
33:14
Agenda themes and but they're a little
33:16
more or I'd say less serious generally
33:20
speaking and and there's a lot of tea
33:22
dropping on book from both the female
33:25
and the male that they've kind of flirty
33:27
with each other and they but they
33:29
dropped teas all over the place but I'm
33:31
gonna say if you can spot this one if
33:33
you think about this for a second though
33:35
if we thought this about let's say
33:38
Clinton won god forbid and we thought
33:40
that about how she was elected wouldn't
33:43
you understand their outrage like we be
33:48
equally as outraged if we had lost the
33:51
election and we had been told over and
33:54
over again or been misled to believe
33:56
that it was because Clinton was working
33:59
with Russia and Russia hacked the voting
34:02
machines to change the vote totals oh
34:03
absolutely but this one I say all the
34:07
time the the cycle this this is exam in
34:10
hand-in-glove is why psychological
34:13
warfare was important important
34:16
important that was very important
34:23
exactly so this is rampant I have one
34:27
more clip to play which is both a
34:31
millennial speak in and a vocal fry' and
34:33
a tea drop it's like it's like the
34:35
triple threat this was a the new meme
34:39
which came from I forget which actors it
34:42
came from it is self partnering and did
34:45
you hear about this fabulous Emma Watson
34:48
Emma Watson Weymouth culture the woman
34:50
you will hear this is on the BBC the
34:52
woman who will be is being interviewed
34:54
is from The Washington Post a serious
34:58
news publications winneth Paltrow came
35:00
up with the term conscious uncoupling
35:02
when she was getting divorced now we've
35:03
got Emma Watson saying she's self
35:06
partnered why this desire to come up
35:08
with a new term to describe being single
35:11
sure I think the word single sometimes
35:13
doesn't convey the richness and fullness
35:16
that can happen in a single person's
35:18
life it doesn't acknowledge the fact
35:21
that a single person might have really
35:23
healthy friendships and family thinking
35:34
about moving because she she's asked the
35:37
question and she says sure which is
35:39
another one of things that we just think
35:42
I just I there was so much I mean I just
35:44
wanted to give you a couple things to
35:45
listen to but yeah this sure was in
35:47
there as well like healthy friendships
35:49
and family and you know here at the
35:53
Washington Post a couple of years ago we
35:54
coined a term so Louis their own
36:02
fulfilling relationships beyond a
36:05
partner more euphemistic way of kind of
36:09
describing a state that I mean you're
36:12
still single at the end of the day you
36:14
know it's hard to know why Emma chose
36:17
the term is resonating with people on
36:20
Twitter and stuff sometimes in a joking
36:22
way people saying that you know they're
36:25
gonna tell their nosy relatives when
36:26
they inquire they're dating lives that
36:28
their self partnered but I think her a
36:31
chance to say like no I'm happy single
36:33
and sometimes the word single can sound
36:37
like something is lacking or that a
36:40
person is looking for a partner and
36:41
that's not always the case so plenty of
36:44
single people are happy that way and
36:47
self partnered might be a good way to
36:48
describe that yeah so that was a combo
36:51
Hummer
36:52
she's a how much although which one this
36:54
is like one she never stops making noise
36:57
and then she said she said Twitter and
37:01
stuff
37:03
yes and read about on Twitter and stuff
37:08
no that's the Washington Post for you so
37:11
we had this conversation about this tea
37:14
dropping and a lot of people wrote in
37:15
and and and here's what bothered me is
37:19
we had only just gone through this phase
37:22
of being excoriated a few years ago the
37:25
people saying I remember that it was
37:27
kind of like oh you know that's
37:28
misogynist or that remember that John
37:31
was just a brief moment where people
37:32
were pushing back on it and then it kind
37:35
of went away got pushed away and and no
37:38
one talked about it so I was very
37:39
surprised when we were called out for
37:42
being racist and misogynist because
37:45
that's pretty much what the the
37:47
linguists professor said and I wanted to
37:52
play a report that I think we might have
37:55
played from 2013 so only six years ago
37:58
not that long ago and this is not a
38:01
podcast this is CBS CBS this morning
38:04
it's mainstream television this is how
38:07
they dealt with it six years ago pretty
38:10
much the same thing we got excoriated
38:12
for just four days ago America's young
38:15
women are running out of oxygen what
38:18
else could explain why so many of them
38:20
sound like this you know motto
38:29
you know motto Kim and Chloe just don't
38:32
get it get it get it believe it or not
38:34
there's a scientific term for the way a
38:37
Kardashian speaks and it's vocal fry'
38:41
it's a low creaky vibration produced by
38:44
a fluttering of the vocal cords speech
38:46
pathologists call it a disorder that
38:48
verges on vocal abuse and here's what it
38:51
looks like
38:53
call it a quirk a trend or an epidemic
38:56
vocal fry' is everywhere I'm not staying
39:00
here tonight tonight the only reason why
39:01
I'm going is just like network network a
39:03
recent study of women in college found
39:06
that two-thirds of them use this
39:07
globalization which explains why the fry
39:10
is a sizzling topic in The New York
39:13
Times on morning TV you sound something
39:16
like this even for an NPR host it's
39:21
annoying I mean it's really annoying
39:25
when I was a tween in the early 80s the
39:29
Bali girl was born she brought us like
39:31
and up talk and there's been like a
39:33
general cultural agreement that like at
39:35
that kind of speech leaves the user
39:37
sounding air heady and unprofessional
39:39
but vocal fry' is unique because
39:43
researchers have found that women who
39:45
talk this way are seen by their peers as
39:47
educated urban oriented and upwardly
39:50
mobile you love him I need to totally
39:53
complimented you complemented you some
39:55
linguists even suggest that creaky young
39:58
ladies are evolving our culture as
40:00
linguistic innovators Tyler has a pretty
40:02
good reputation in this business
40:04
business
40:05
well metaphorically I encourage every
40:08
woman to find her voice I'm just made at
40:11
how low it can go on my sixteenth
40:14
birthday birthday I'm burned out on the
40:16
fry it sounds underwhelmed and
40:18
disengaged it's annoying to listen to a
40:22
young woman who sounds world-weary and
40:24
exactly like her 14 best friends I just
40:29
find that very interesting that this was
40:31
kind of dealt with six years ago and you
40:33
ordered everyone was complaining about
40:35
it New York Times NPR everybody said
40:39
this is dumb it makes you sound dumb and
40:41
somehow just no no no no you can't tell
40:46
anyone that's wrong that's just just
40:49
racist
40:52
so what was your favorite piece of
40:55
feedback you got from this dropping of
40:58
tea specifically the dropping of tea
41:00
almost everybody the baby my favourite
41:03
fee being just in general or people
41:05
coming and saying I've been in this
41:06
field and this is being taught as by
41:08
this I can sjw thing that's a sidelight
41:11
it's not really true linguistics weirdo
41:13
or on the side of Noam Chomsky who's the
41:16
father of modern linguistics and this
41:17
guy's full of crap and he shouldn't even
41:19
be teaching us kinda stuff you beginning
41:22
but a lot of people said they don't have
41:25
one specifically to read I do have
41:27
something that that guy wrote that I
41:29
thought was funny where he referred to
41:31
one of the wimped one of the clips of
41:34
the women that we played as a they know
41:37
I don't remember that was it and then
41:40
they refer to she they instead of she
41:50
when it's a note when it's a woman and
41:53
we would normally go along with the
41:54
pronator woman's talking the woman is
41:57
the she not of a and then to assume
42:00
there are they this makes this I mean to
42:03
say they without somebody telling you
42:06
their personal pronoun is violence very
42:09
presumptuous the violation of all of all
42:11
terms and conditions I mean you just say
42:14
she goes right across it's like I'll use
42:16
she but to took throw they and out of
42:19
the blue it seemed to me to be
42:22
presumptuous and also like just a virtue
42:26
signaling like I really was not
42:28
impressed with this guy that he's a
42:31
professor of linguistics at a
42:34
prestigious school yeah it makes it even
42:37
more did is this almost depressing and
42:41
one is here and I want to put this guy
42:44
down know naman no but well so I think
42:47
the general consensus was what he was
42:49
saying is you know this is prescriptive
42:53
and not the not defining so language is
42:57
always alive and it changes and it
42:59
morphs and and this is true there's no
43:01
doubt about it and you know you don't
43:03
hear us complaining too much anymore
43:05
about words that have completely taken
43:07
on new meaning but gay is an excellent
43:09
example you know and was in my lifetime
43:11
that definitely meant something else
43:13
yeah men happy right and and yes and so
43:17
you know but it's okay so we we go along
43:19
with a lot of things but language change
43:21
is not because someone says this is how
43:25
we're doing it shut up old white men cuz
43:27
that's the message I got was yeah it was
43:31
the message
43:31
yeah it's like you know your language
43:34
changes and you're in the way no that's
43:36
not the deal it's like the older
43:38
generation not the way it works now the
43:40
older generation gets to gets the grouse
43:42
about it and push that the older
43:44
generation is
43:45
part of the reason some of these things
43:47
never change yes yes it's our it's our
43:50
duty our civic duty I like the analogy
43:53
of human language is more similar to
43:57
fashion than it is to C++ and that kind
44:00
of resonated in my brain I think yeah
44:01
that's true
44:02
there were two other comments that I
44:05
thought were interesting and one related
44:08
not just to the the glottis I Glatt to
44:10
the glottis ization easy for you to say
44:14
that's not but two vocal fry' now one of
44:18
our producers says a friend of mine is a
44:19
former heroin user and has observed
44:22
people's voices change when they start
44:24
using heroin dropping into vocal fry' he
44:27
says he can almost instantly spot a
44:29
heroin user based on their voice and has
44:32
called out people who've confirmed that
44:33
they started using now my question is
44:37
does that go for oxy as well does it go
44:39
forward you know or does it have to be
44:41
you know your main not into heroin it
44:44
doesn't quite surprise me because they
44:46
used to be and I still have some of this
44:48
I've never done this again but I could
44:51
because I kept it there was a cough
44:53
syrup out there called ventolin mm-hmm
44:56
and I had some issues with my life some
44:59
no no this decades ago and if you take
45:02
this let me take this stuff it doesn't
45:05
only give us your vocal fry' uh-huh but
45:07
I personally sound exactly like Henry
45:10
Kissinger oh man you got it you got it
45:12
you got to do a hit the problem is is
45:15
that it takes hours and hours to go away
45:17
you are you hammered when you take it or
45:21
the fry takes hours to go away yeah the
45:24
fry takes hours to go away what comes to
45:26
really have to be completely moved and I
45:28
don't know if it has anything to do it
45:29
just my reaction to this particular
45:31
whatever chemical is in this cough syrup
45:34
but I just have like this just complete
45:40
but it's like it's like that with with
45:43
amplitude nice is the difference I can't
45:46
amplitude I can make this sound but I
45:50
can't good at high amplification which I
45:52
can't with that stuff cool and it's
45:54
distressing I'll have to try some you
45:56
breathe air maybe getting it stuck like
45:58
after tries oh oh this was the best
46:02
response and it actually struck me is
46:04
with maybe even not as he intended it a
46:07
gentlemen fantastic language segment a
46:09
minor come it I believe the dropping T's
46:12
issue is more of a neglect of ends in
46:17
reference to words of important Mountain
46:20
the real letter at issue is the N I get
46:24
I agree this is the best letter read
46:26
that yes read this
46:28
I'd guess this n neglect has something
46:31
to do with the youth regarding the nasal
46:33
aspect of the N as sounding not
46:36
sufficiently hip or to square or maybe
46:40
it's a Sybil f-for anti-french sentiment
46:43
which was that he threw in there but
46:46
these were these the words where it does
46:48
show up important and mountain and what
46:52
you what you're getting when you say
46:54
mountain and important is you're getting
46:57
a different end so when you're saying
46:59
importance if you're getting I in I
47:01
think it's actually even bigger than
47:03
that what he's discussing you're getting
47:05
that is so it's important yeah and it's
47:09
always an in or at Mount Hope again the
47:12
kind in sucking in the end point it's in
47:16
basically the word in is it suits weird
47:19
they don't want to say n in a normal
47:21
fashion by his thesis and I think
47:23
there's something to this I have a
47:25
theory what if your entire life you were
47:30
told you can say anything you want
47:35
except the n-word
47:39
could it do that that that could be that
47:45
that is stuck in people's brains to such
47:48
a degree import and even when the end
47:51
Mount and it's the same n as the as the
47:54
N word could it be that that is what's
47:57
going on
47:58
no look Elms of possibility thank you
48:06
I think this is my my theory and I'm
48:10
sticking to it
48:13
they're afraid of the n-word you say you
48:16
don't say curtain curtain curtain Chris
48:18
take Kurt and curtain curtain curtain
48:23
curtain curtain
48:25
it's her end it's a mystery is what it
48:29
is it's a dang mystery well let's think
48:33
about a few like the word important you
48:36
don't have to really say the T to get
48:38
the word out I mean it could be
48:39
important it's very important it's very
48:41
important important yeah that's the
48:44
difference okay I don't say important
48:46
I say important but not yes oh you don't
48:52
choke it up you don't choke to choke the
48:54
word out just stop it
48:56
stop it children stop it
48:59
enough this needs more discussion
49:01
obviously yeah because it's we've been
49:04
talking about that you found that old
49:06
clip thank you mm-hmm
49:07
we've been talking about obviously for
49:09
at least three or four years yeah well
49:12
no so I guess I'm vocal frying my voice
49:15
do you do come on Courtney all right so
49:20
what's going on over there you're only
49:21
eight thousand miles away you sound
49:23
pretty good for that distance the fires
49:27
are out for their continued 100% oh
49:29
really oh that's good news and it's it's
49:32
the power on fuckers on you or the
49:35
powers been on here I don't know we're
49:37
just probably still off someplace
49:41
nothing there's nothing I think they're
49:43
trying to impeach Trump
49:46
yeah you know I have not missed seeing
49:48
that 24/7 and it's just it's really been
49:52
so nice I mean it's of course you're
49:54
looking at other death and destruction
49:55
we're all gonna die but as Lisa's not
49:57
impeached Trump it's just it's
50:00
refreshing Oh some some other shit is
50:02
going on in the world yeah what do you
50:06
got any updating is preferable okay I
50:08
will say this by the way today's Zephyr
50:10
trim was only seven cars long no there's
50:13
something wrong I think so you know you
50:15
could do a stock chart forecast it could
50:21
be the Dvorak Zephyr report and based
50:24
upon how many cars the Zephyr had on
50:27
average could you could have better
50:30
economic numbers than than anyone else
50:34
in fact yes I could so I don't like
50:37
seven it was low seven is low seven the
50:39
lowest I've ever seen low count well let
50:43
me tell you what I got about the
50:45
impeachment stuff I only have two things
50:47
that that were that I caught over here
50:51
and one is about the whistleblower who I
50:56
guess we still don't know who it is or
50:58
we think we know who it is but we're not
51:00
supposed to say that drawing a name
51:02
around right but you're not allowed to
51:04
say it because the whistleblower has
51:06
protections protections here's Rand Paul
51:08
who disagrees whistleblower laws though
51:11
they do protect a whistleblower you know
51:13
it's illegal to you see you got the home
51:16
to me you should here's the thing yes
51:19
the whistleblower statute protects the
51:21
whistleblower from having his name
51:23
revealed by the inspector general even
51:25
the New York Times admits that no one
51:27
else is under any legal obligation the
51:29
other point and you need to be very
51:31
careful if you really are interested in
51:32
the news is that the whistleblower
51:34
actually is a material witness
51:37
completely separate from being the
51:39
whistleblower because he worked for Joe
51:40
Biden he worked for Joe Biden at the
51:43
same time hunter Biden is receiving
51:44
$50,000 a month so the investigation
51:47
into the corruption of hunter Biden
51:49
involves this whistleblower because he
51:51
was there at the time did he bring up
51:53
the conflict of interest was there
51:55
discussion of this what was his
51:56
involvement with the relationship
51:58
between Joe Biden and the prosecutors a
52:00
lot of questions that whistleblower
52:01
needs to know there you go so I guess
52:05
that makes him a bad whistleblower fakes
52:10
that was phony about this West
52:11
whistleblower of course but yeah
52:15
everybody's on Rand Paul's bandwagon
52:18
first oh really always he is he leading
52:20
the charge finally on so he's not
52:22
leading the charge but he that was a
52:24
importance important statement that he
52:28
made and he all the right-wing talkers
52:31
are all well ran I don't I don't agree
52:34
with everything he's one of these deals
52:35
oh yeah I don't agree with everything he
52:37
says but exactly you know what's gonna
52:41
happen is we're gonna keep doing
52:42
important and you know it's gonna become
52:45
language and then people are gonna hate
52:46
us
52:47
should be careful they're gonna hate us
52:49
anyway Samantha Power's spoke up like
52:53
why does she need wait to be heard he
52:56
rose from did she come out of her coffin
52:58
and then speak she sounds like she came
53:01
out of the coffin she sounds like a dude
53:03
do you think that Republicans and many
53:07
of them would say a quid pro quo does
53:09
not actually reach the bar for
53:11
impeachment of high crimes and
53:12
misdemeanors I think what you see from
53:14
Republicans is a kind of nervousness
53:18
acute nervousness about the facts of
53:21
what Trump did tell me if you don't
53:23
close your eyes that doesn't sound like
53:25
a dude like kind of like Stephanopoulos
53:27
height you know well doesn't it sound a
53:31
little like Jane Fonda too and therefore
53:34
more and more discussion of process it's
53:36
not fair process it's clear right that's
53:39
go open to all it's a show trial and so
53:42
there really I think trying to change
53:44
the conversation I mean he went and
53:46
noticed she says they've been trying to
53:49
change the conversation you know the old
53:51
Dutch proverb but just ask me to call
53:54
total health which means she may be
53:56
accusing people of what she's about to
53:58
do herself and so they're really I think
54:02
trying to change the conversation I mean
54:04
he went and asked a foreign government
54:06
to not dig up dirt makeup dirt in order
54:11
to show this showed up about three or
54:19
four day or actually even longer but it
54:21
I know it started creeping in where even
54:24
though you've got the transcript to read
54:26
there's nothing in there where Trump
54:28
says I would like you to make up dirt
54:30
about Joe Biden if you can't find it
54:33
make it up but that's what the left is
54:36
saying all around here does you hear
54:37
this you're starting to hear this it's a
54:39
meme now yeah yeah Trump calls the the
54:42
comedy
54:43
comedian president of Ukraine and told
54:47
him to make up dirt about Joe Biden geez
54:50
that's what everyone says yeah it's like
54:53
why yeah I'm not getting it now people
54:56
over here they they don't even really
54:59
want me to tell
55:00
what's happening but here's how it
55:02
usually starts Trump's not gonna get
55:05
impeached is he that's pretty much what
55:08
everyone has said to me not do you think
55:10
he's gonna get impeached what's going on
55:11
just like she's not gonna get impeached
55:13
is he which is interesting and no one's
55:17
working where does that coming from I
55:18
don't know no one's mad I think because
55:20
they're all so they're being hammered
55:22
about climate change and you know they
55:24
have other problems
55:26
it won't trust this day cuz he's a claim
55:28
but he's deny they don't have that
55:32
bullcrap over there at least
55:35
well we have it on and off we just don't
55:38
have it to such an extreme right because
55:40
we don't have a great leader like Greta
55:43
doomberry doom-doom Berg doomed Berg
55:47
Berg Elizabeth Warren finally defined
55:51
the middle class I was just asking about
55:53
this on the last show
55:55
I'm did you do you hear this yeah you do
55:59
if this is the same clip you played in
56:02
the last show I'll be surprised no I
56:04
didn't play this clip on the last show
56:05
no okay no this is a new clip it's a
56:08
shorty but she's asked to define the
56:11
middle class because he promised cost
56:13
will not go up for the middle class now
56:15
did we arrive at a number at the brac I
56:18
think this reporter even asked for the
56:19
bracket would do we come up with a
56:22
number as the title I thought the number
56:24
we came up with Obama's number which was
56:26
$250,000 a year is the top end of the
56:29
middle class okay well some states it
56:31
seemed an the bottom man would be
56:33
poverty right which what is what what's
56:35
poverty 25 30
56:37
I think it's 25 20 currently I'm not
56:40
sure okay so it's in that vicinity so
56:43
everybody above 250 you could be screwed
56:47
no yes you could be screwed by Warren by
56:50
Warren stacks actually no you don't have
56:52
to be worried at all
56:58
here it's 100% it doesn't raise taxes on
57:02
anybody but billionaires and you know
57:04
what the billionaires can afford an item
57:06
called a middle-class billionaire that's
57:08
where it worked
57:09
anyone under
57:14
anyone under a billion dollars pays not
57:16
a penny more you heard it there that's
57:19
your middle class is under a billion
57:21
well I this we yeah I think this is
57:23
similar to a clip you played now well I
57:27
don't know what that clip is then but
57:30
yes she made this comment this guy went
57:32
around a toe and is bullshit she never
57:34
specifically said the middle class was
57:36
anyone who makes under a billion no she
57:39
just said it now though she didn't
57:41
really say that he's asking her who's
57:44
gonna get taxed no he says what is the
57:46
middle class what's the bracket
57:49
well she yes but she didn't answer the
57:51
question if a politician I'm gonna have
57:54
to say something here
57:56
we know that politicians don't answer
57:58
the question so he can't really answer
58:01
she's answering some question that
58:03
wasn't asked
58:04
she's asking who's gonna get taxed and
58:06
he asked who's the middle class and she
58:08
didn't answer the question I don't see
58:09
that you can accuse her of saying this
58:11
when she did to her normal avoidance
58:14
behavior of not answering the question
58:16
and then sticking her with an answer I
58:18
think is unfair I think you're being
58:20
unfair to to Betsy that was her normal
58:25
name Betsy Betsy new name Betsy so I
58:32
came I bet she was her name I do I
58:35
researched her because I was saying I
58:38
saw a picture of her here's what I
58:40
thought and don't Clifton's for the
58:43
cartoon I'm saying that cuz I'm always
58:45
stumbling I'm to get to my point
58:48
where's elizabeth warren's Betsy
58:51
Warren's where's her husband what do you
58:54
mean what's his name which is OK without
58:56
looking what's what's her husband's name
58:58
Paul am I wrong what is his name
59:07
Bruce oh yeah I knew that I knew it was
59:10
a paul or a bud or something like well
59:12
she may have been shit to us but she was
59:14
married and then she got divorced and
59:15
she very Brutes
59:17
and you never see Bruce you never hear
59:19
Bruce nobody's doing profiles of Bruce
59:21
he didn't want a beer that's why she
59:24
wants a beer he said no and that was his
59:26
career over with done you're not a
59:28
camera they were actually they're
59:30
actually a kind of a for their age and
59:32
all they're cute couple and she's very
59:33
pretty when she was in high school on
59:35
and off she has a glamour shot I'd
59:37
started looking up all over her pictures
59:40
glamour shot of one at one point which I
59:44
maybe I'll run in a newsletter because
59:46
in this glamour shot she's got the
59:49
epicanthal fold you know she's good she
59:51
looks like an American Indian she's got
59:52
black hair her hair is always dark not
59:54
the blondie as she is today and so I
59:58
looked at all our pictures in grammar
59:59
school and all the rest and we read this
1:00:01
very interesting profile of her and some
1:00:03
obscure publication and she was I wanted
1:00:07
this she got skipped she was a smart
1:00:09
girl she skipped a year in school moved
1:00:12
up and she was apparently a master
1:00:18
debater
1:00:21
won the state championship for debating
1:00:24
mm-hmm and I'm thinking this would be
1:00:27
the guy I didn't like the idea of her
1:00:29
running but I although I do know she's
1:00:31
not gonna do anything and she was always
1:00:34
a Republican until she was 40 something
1:00:36
yeah just not very strange yeah I know I
1:00:38
knew that and she I would love to see
1:00:43
her in a debate with Trump I think this
1:00:46
would be fun to watch well cuz
1:00:48
apparently she was a kick-ass debater an
1:00:53
observation is that you were creeping on
1:00:56
Betsy there Betsy due diligence oh yes
1:01:01
okay due diligence no you know what
1:01:04
little defensive about her she was very
1:01:06
cute I mean everybody heard it I'm not
1:01:09
the only one who heard this okay alright
1:01:12
well I respect your your analysis
1:01:16
Bill Gates disagrees with you you
1:01:20
historically actually have been in favor
1:01:22
of a wealth tax I'm a high estate tax of
1:01:26
a high estate tax yeah so there is now
1:01:28
on the table Elizabeth Warren has a true
1:01:32
wealth tax
1:01:33
[Music]
1:01:35
well billionaires it would cost you I
1:01:38
believe close to six billion dollars
1:01:40
annually if you had to pay it ended on
1:01:43
top of what you already pay what do you
1:01:46
think of all of this so there you know
1:01:49
I've paid over ten billion in taxes I
1:01:52
paid more than anyone in taxes but I you
1:01:58
know I'm glad you know if I'd had to pay
1:02:01
twenty billion that's fine but you know
1:02:05
when you say I should pay a hundred
1:02:06
billion ok then I'm starting to do a
1:02:08
little math about
1:02:10
what I have left over sorry I'm just
1:02:13
kidding you really want the incentive
1:02:18
system to be there and you can go a long
1:02:19
ways without threatening that have you
1:02:22
ever talked that was before about and
1:02:23
I'd not would you would you want to you
1:02:26
know I'm not sure how open-minded she is
1:02:30
doing stand-up here he's just one after
1:02:34
another he's always been funny if he's
1:02:36
got a crowd going yeah they like for the
1:02:38
odd thing is bother something I mean
1:02:41
I've never I mean he's always had these
1:02:42
affectations in his in his voice but ah
1:02:45
you know who does that
1:02:47
no Ted Turner was a big ah-ha
1:02:51
before he said anything and I think it
1:02:53
might be a milieu issue well you got to
1:02:55
be careful because Ted has severe
1:02:58
dementia now he's a shadow of himself so
1:03:03
I'm sure his odds have gotten completely
1:03:05
out of control a warning sign
1:03:09
Wow you're on a roll today I am sure how
1:03:12
open-minded she is it's a nerd fry it's
1:03:20
a nerd vocal fry be willing to sit down
1:03:22
with somebody you know who has large
1:03:25
amounts of money okay so let me make it
1:03:27
complicated for you
1:03:28
you've been polite we say public about
1:03:32
your misgivings about our current
1:03:33
president if Elizabeth Warren were the
1:03:36
other candidate what would you do you
1:03:39
know I I'm not gonna you know make
1:03:42
political declarations but I do think no
1:03:45
matter what policy somebody has in mind
1:03:49
a professional approach is even as much
1:03:54
as I disagree with some of the policy
1:03:56
things that are out there I do think a
1:03:57
professional approach to the office
1:03:59
whoever I decide would have the more
1:04:01
professional approach in the current
1:04:03
situation probably will way is the thing
1:04:07
that I'll weigh the most nah yeah you
1:04:10
know I hope the more professional
1:04:12
candidate is an electable candidate okay
1:04:15
yeah wonder if it's a tell cuz he's
1:04:18
basically they're just lying his ass off
1:04:20
because he'd never vote for Trump he
1:04:22
knows that if it was warned half to vote
1:04:24
for Warren because otherwise he'd be
1:04:26
excoriated from the pedo Club yes but
1:04:31
maybe it's a tell whenever he's gonna do
1:04:32
a really big lie ah why stand it's
1:04:36
different than just the normal which
1:04:38
people you know I I do it you do a
1:04:40
little bit mm yeah we everybody does it
1:04:43
they say uh but uh is not the same as
1:04:49
approach is even as much as I disagree
1:04:54
with some of the policy things that are
1:04:55
out there I do think a professional
1:04:56
approach in the office whoever I decide
1:04:59
would have the more professional
1:05:00
approach in the current situation
1:05:03
probably will way is the thing that I'll
1:05:06
weigh the most sounds like his body is
1:05:14
all saying this is bullshit approach in
1:05:19
the current situation
1:05:21
probably will way is the thing that I'll
1:05:24
weigh the most nah and you know I hope
1:05:28
we gotta pay attention to him doing that
1:05:30
now cuz I think it's a tell it might be
1:05:34
a tell ah he does a lot yeah but that
1:05:37
was a good beginning of it the whole
1:05:39
thing he really extreme the end I like
1:05:42
it were they're different
1:05:43
it's it's a cool version of Tourette's
1:05:45
maybe it's a nerdy thing you know bill
1:05:49
supposedly has Parkinson's
1:05:54
and this is the mole is not discussed a
1:05:56
lot but I've seen absolutely zero
1:05:59
evidence in the evidence of that either
1:06:00
he's not yes and this was I think I
1:06:04
first heard about this four or five
1:06:05
years ago hmm yeah there's no evidence
1:06:08
of it so see what's not she still looks
1:06:19
like she might swoop in
1:06:20
did you see Hillary and Chelsea crash
1:06:23
the monologue on the James Corden show
1:06:27
yes I watched it I watched them do their
1:06:30
thing that's where I got to quote from
1:06:34
her saying that she did we've got to get
1:06:37
rid of the electoral college
1:06:39
Oh was this in the in the opening I
1:06:42
thought that did they do a sit-down
1:06:43
interview because I didn't oh I only got
1:06:46
when they did stand-up did you see this
1:06:48
cringe no I miss them so James Corden's
1:06:54
doing his monologue and then the
1:06:56
curtains open behind this was 17 seconds
1:07:09
of standing ovations so I cut it down
1:07:14
but people were going nuts that just oh
1:07:17
my god there they are
1:07:21
she's real she looks great
1:07:25
[Applause]
1:07:35
Wow we heard your jokes backstage and
1:07:39
felt it was our civic duty to in this
1:07:43
humanitarian now of course what happened
1:07:46
here is you know they they agreed to
1:07:49
come on the show we're gonna do
1:07:50
something different and then the writer
1:07:51
sat down and they wrote some jokes and
1:07:53
now you're gonna see two women
1:07:55
delivering jokes and hey well I'd love
1:07:58
to hear your analysis because you feel
1:08:01
the punch line coming from a thousand
1:08:02
miles and still it generates a little
1:08:05
chuckle now this there's something about
1:08:08
a lot of structured jokes you got to
1:08:10
give it to amateurs yes I am really fed
1:08:14
up with all of your Trump jokes if
1:08:21
anyone should be telling Trump jokes
1:08:23
it's me it's like that's just pandering
1:08:28
to the crowd
1:08:29
[Applause]
1:08:34
Donald Trump trying to get votes for
1:08:36
Sean Spicer on Dancing with the Stars
1:08:43
now Chelsea goes you know I can't blame
1:08:51
Trump for trying to help Sean Spicer but
1:08:57
if there's one thing we've learned is
1:08:58
that these guys really can't win the
1:09:01
popular vote sure why not spokesman Sean
1:09:15
Spicer is now on Dancing with the Stars
1:09:17
it is an improvement on his old job
1:09:20
dancing around the issues now you get
1:09:26
the idea and then she doesn't emails
1:09:29
joke and
1:09:34
you know she could have she'd hit up the
1:09:36
word dancing
1:09:38
I've around the issues and then plowed
1:09:41
through the second president he could
1:09:42
have actually been hurt her we delivered
1:09:44
prominently but now so that just shows
1:09:47
deliveries little flat for both of them
1:09:49
so that appearance shows that she's
1:09:52
still in the game and obviously we're
1:09:54
now November 7th at this is six days
1:09:56
past our self-imposed deadline of
1:09:58
reentry my self-imposed deadline you
1:10:01
never but this is the kind of guy I am
1:10:04
I'll take the bad with you bullet yes I
1:10:11
would in a heartbeat
1:10:13
absolutely I just wanna make it clear
1:10:15
that I'm the one who said well first
1:10:18
thing well I think we for being wrong no
1:10:21
I think you still have a shot and you
1:10:23
have a shot no I'm not I'm not I have
1:10:25
not thrown in the towel no you shouldn't
1:10:28
because I have another clip here this is
1:10:31
everybody's favorite money honey Maria
1:10:34
Bartiromo and she had a sit-down
1:10:35
interview with Steve Banyan known of the
1:10:39
Banyan brothers and he had the following
1:10:43
you don't think this is gonna be the
1:10:45
lineup come 20/20 on the Democratic side
1:10:47
I think if you look at the liberty and
1:10:49
justice dinner in Iowa the other night
1:10:51
Joe Biden was totally unfair
1:10:52
right and I don't think mayor peak at
1:10:54
that Obama moment he was looking for I
1:10:56
just don't believe that the centrist
1:10:58
that you know particularly the wall
1:11:00
street crowd in the Democratic Party are
1:11:02
going to sit there and think that they
1:11:03
have a coronation for Elizabeth Warren's
1:11:06
Elizabeth Warren's policies are so
1:11:08
radical the math doesn't even come close
1:11:13
this modern monetary theory you have to
1:11:15
totally change the way we've ever
1:11:17
thought about finance the way he thought
1:11:18
about money to even have some concept of
1:11:21
the radicalization of what her policies
1:11:23
are yes so I think that Bloomberg and
1:11:26
Clinton are still there as Biden's in
1:11:28
fourth in Iowa he's in second in New
1:11:30
Hampshire I think dropping a third he's
1:11:32
losing steam everywhere Bloomberg or
1:11:35
Hillary Clinton will enter this race I
1:11:37
think that they're the
1:11:38
two best representatives of what it goes
1:11:40
for today the centrist of the Democratic
1:11:42
Party
1:11:42
I believe the centrist no matter how lay
1:11:45
some time before Iowa or even come in I
1:11:47
don't believe they won't seem like
1:11:48
they're disruptors right so they don't
1:11:50
want to elbow Biden aside but as the
1:11:52
natural gravity falls out of the in the
1:11:53
first two races South Carolina yeah is
1:11:55
what's propping him up right now and
1:11:56
mayor Pete if mayor Pete does not get
1:11:58
the traction and he did not have an
1:12:01
Obama moment yeah the other day I think
1:12:03
that the centrist are gonna have a vote
1:12:05
and they're either gonna look and say
1:12:06
Bloomberg or Clinton what are the best
1:12:09
are the best shot no no the only person
1:12:13
could be done with Trump is Donald Trump
1:12:15
Trump right now there's not a candidate
1:12:16
out there that can defeat Donald
1:12:19
there you go straight from the horse's
1:12:21
mouth this guy is on the road cuz he was
1:12:25
on a couple of the right-wing talkers
1:12:27
and he's been floating around mm-hmm he
1:12:29
hasn't gotten into the high profile
1:12:31
shows yet I don't know yes that's his
1:12:34
thing if he really even wants to go
1:12:36
after that he seems to be very
1:12:38
comfortable with kind of the business
1:12:40
press he doesn't know Bloomberg you know
1:12:43
some podcasts you know I don't know the
1:12:47
guy's smart so I'm sure he's doing but
1:12:49
do you think he really wants to be like
1:12:52
in a in kind of a mainstream soundbite
1:12:55
type program and this is something we
1:12:56
got to talk for half an hour and that's
1:12:58
what he's looking for maybe he just
1:13:01
wants to talk longer and he can't do
1:13:02
that on him she doesn't care thing up
1:13:04
honey here's how he's thinking I don't
1:13:06
care as long as the no agenda boys got
1:13:08
some clips to play that's all that's on
1:13:09
his mind I understand that I'd like to
1:13:13
thank you for your courage and say in
1:13:15
the morning to you the man who put the
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Dvorak well in the morning you mr. Adam
1:13:23
Curry in the morning the boots on the
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ground feet in the air and all the Dames
1:13:29
are nice out there in the morning - are
1:13:31
trolls in the troll room which can be
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hop on over there you can listen to any
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perfect people everything's beautiful
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over there no agenda stream calm oh yes
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and if you're a troll you'll be welcomed
1:13:52
with cookies no agendas juries roll
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no agenda stream calm now then I'd like
1:13:58
to offer a big hearty in the morning to
1:14:00
Larry
1:14:00
Dane who is a I think he's never let me
1:14:04
check if we discussed this I do not
1:14:06
believe he is no it was his know is his
1:14:08
second submission and he scored the
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album art award a four-episode 1187 the
1:14:16
title that was pre deceased
1:14:19
and he had the Oxford Dictionary of
1:14:22
current English as the tea was dropping
1:14:25
off English privileged the No Agenda
1:14:28
original and it felt good to us but it
1:14:32
believes there was something we wanted
1:14:34
to critique
1:14:35
yes well the one that I thought was the
1:14:38
best piece
1:14:40
was Mike Riley you said it was up to
1:14:44
obscure you when you're gonna put up
1:14:45
with it it but this is with Jimmy
1:14:47
Garoppolo standing there and two weather
1:14:50
balloons that I'd commented that he
1:14:51
likes to date women that looked like
1:14:53
they were too weather balloons in a
1:14:54
halter top right you thought was
1:14:56
slightly amusing but what got me about
1:14:59
this he's got Jimmy Garoppolo and then
1:15:01
there's two weather balloons floating in
1:15:03
the air with stripper tassels hanging
1:15:06
from them that was the part that was too
1:15:09
obscure first of all I didn't recognize
1:15:11
Jimmy Garofalo door nor did it even
1:15:13
trigger anything in my memory because
1:15:16
you know that just died the tassels were
1:15:19
a hilarious
1:15:20
touch very funny but it really doesn't
1:15:23
just didn't translate from me not saying
1:15:26
it's bad no obviously we didn't pick it
1:15:28
no I'm just saying this is the piece I
1:15:30
like Galaga and mainly because of the
1:15:33
subtle touch of the tousled I have to be
1:15:35
I'm old enough that I've been to
1:15:37
burlesque burlesque shows the classic
1:15:39
yes I've been to a burlesque show or two
1:15:41
and they used to have these women who
1:15:45
would come out with these topless and
1:15:47
not bottomless usually but topless with
1:15:51
these tassels hanging off their nipples
1:15:53
and they could twirl and they would get
1:15:56
and they would get them spinning mm-hmm
1:15:59
through a jumping jack like exercise
1:16:02
they get them going and they're really
1:16:04
talented women if you want to call this
1:16:06
a talent now when they were jumping and
1:16:11
whatever movements there were their
1:16:12
talent were they both spinning in the
1:16:15
same direction or could they do
1:16:16
generally stop it and make them go one
1:16:20
going one direction one going the other
1:16:22
direction Wow and that was and they were
1:16:25
did they do it and like on cue and it
1:16:27
was like wow you'd say to yourself
1:16:29
talent which you're like a teenager in
1:16:31
here I can imagine you just last Friday
1:16:46
that's what I called talent I did like
1:16:49
Joe Biden with this little mr.
1:16:52
microphone I think we both found that to
1:16:53
be
1:16:54
man that was an obscure reference mr.
1:16:57
Mitas was probably unknown to most
1:16:58
people yeah and live from the
1:17:02
Netherlands now travel tip so we looked
1:17:04
at travel tips was just it was
1:17:05
functional was a Darren O'Neill piece
1:17:08
him but ultimately everyone does a
1:17:11
beautiful job and we had to pick one and
1:17:14
it's just now it's whatever it whatever
1:17:17
works for us at that moment but we
1:17:19
really appreciate all the work that
1:17:20
everybody puts in sight I also picked
1:17:23
come comic bloggers in Leu live life in
1:17:28
the Netherlands one for the newsletter
1:17:30
because I thought it fit in with the
1:17:31
news yes and of course and that's what
1:17:33
we use the images for it's not just for
1:17:35
the album art I always use one for the
1:17:37
live stream for announcing actually used
1:17:40
a comic store blogger today which had
1:17:42
1188 it's the only time allowed to use
1:17:45
numbers is for the pre stream and he had
1:17:47
them in the Dutch flag colors red white
1:17:48
and blue but actually somehow the whole
1:17:51
thing feels really Dutch so I like that
1:17:54
and some of these also go on t-shirts
1:17:56
and mugs at No Agenda shop calm and the
1:17:58
artists get a piece of the of the
1:18:00
profits there as does the show so we're
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very appreciative thank you so much to
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our artists who participate and if you
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go to nil agenda our generator calm and
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a creating account if it works sometimes
1:18:14
I might have to try twice and upload
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your your work yeah I want to comment on
1:18:21
one more piece of art sure this was from
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I think the previous show yeah we didn't
1:18:25
do a commentary I thought the waffle
1:18:28
waffle waffle by Darren O'Neill of
1:18:30
showing the Washington Post in a and
1:18:33
beloved leader dead at 56 Hitler yes
1:18:37
yeah but was really a noteworthy piece
1:18:40
but but no jokes like already been made
1:18:43
did one of jokes been made that's what
1:18:45
your complaint was yeah the jokes been
1:18:47
made but I'm not gonna put a Hitler
1:18:51
right on the oil on our album art just
1:18:55
don't think it's too advanced guys use
1:18:57
Hitler yeah we won't we won't do without
1:18:59
some thought that's for sure yeah well I
1:19:02
suppose it could be some misses but
1:19:04
we've never used Hitler before I
1:19:08
that was gonna happen but you've got
1:19:10
your artists out there you think it's up
1:19:12
to the challenge you might want to try
1:19:13
something but much it Hitler art no no
1:19:19
Hitler art does you know people take us
1:19:20
seriously when you say that don't say
1:19:22
that
1:19:22
let's do this Hitler we have
1:19:26
executive producers and associate
1:19:28
executive producers to thank today and
1:19:30
then it is a good of a very short second
1:19:32
segment yeah we didn't get a lot of
1:19:35
responses and you know I flies I fly
1:19:37
6,000 miles you know I set up I I sleep
1:19:42
for three hours I prep I set up I do a
1:19:46
show and this is the thank yous its
1:19:48
effects we can't it's okay
1:19:51
that it's it's the way the value for
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value system works is whatever it was
1:19:55
worth to you and it's always a strong
1:19:57
message to us and it's appreciated and
1:19:59
of course we have many messages of
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encouragement today well DJ Fuji starts
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us off at 500 bucks and he says well
1:20:09
gentlemen has spent about a year since
1:20:11
my first donation of my requested jobs
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karma has been outstanding on ice nation
1:20:15
brings me to knighthood and I humbly
1:20:17
request the karaoke and cocktails at the
1:20:19
round table the can you find it Andrews
1:20:21
Florida tiki hut
1:20:23
Andrew Horowitz but your permission I'd
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like to be knighted a serve DJ Fuji of
1:20:30
Jersey City I like to give very special
1:20:33
thanks to dhm plugged riddles are fun
1:20:36
but not so much as fed limericks I you
1:20:40
guys doing your head the Fed limericks
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now now that's old we didn't done that
1:20:45
we're doing brain teasers Oh sir super
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Steve and Hoboken Matt jingle requests
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pansexual men get out of my vagina can
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you see the juice look at the juice
1:20:57
beautiful YUM no way but the first one
1:21:00
is pansexual meatloaf meatloaf I'm sorry
1:21:03
what is that I don't know
1:21:07
pansexual me cuz I looked I looked for
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pansexual I look for meatloaf
1:21:14
I can't find any of this meatloaf I
1:21:18
don't remember it
1:21:19
that's not doesn't ring a bell I got the
1:21:21
other ones but um well he's gonna have
1:21:24
to wait then on the rest of them yeah we
1:21:26
got to let it anyway they finishes him
1:21:28
up he says here's hoping to several more
1:21:31
years of the best podcast in the
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university for your exit strategy
1:21:33
finally works all jingles found at phone
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boy comm slashed no agenda and then he
1:21:40
has this account ringtones and then he's
1:21:44
got some accounting so we have to go to
1:21:47
phone boy probably have the pansexual oh
1:21:53
yeah but I don't know what it is it
1:21:55
means I'm sure we have it but it just
1:21:58
how can that be what it's titled doesn't
1:22:00
make any sense it seems unlikely all
1:22:03
right that's the end of his note I can
1:22:05
do the right the other ones form I have
1:22:07
that sequence and I'll throw some karma
1:22:08
there for him and if he requested that
1:22:10
but he's gonna get it you see that juice
1:22:27
the juice the juice that comes out my
1:22:30
hand is dripping wet here because I have
1:22:32
nothing but juice
1:22:39
your side karma part of it that guy
1:22:48
going on about his being comfort people
1:22:51
remember the strangest things sir I you
1:22:57
know I've been I still tuned into that's
1:22:59
a I believe it's it's not HBO it's one
1:23:03
of those shopping channels trying to
1:23:04
catch that guy in that woman because I
1:23:06
know that they would do this again and
1:23:08
similar cuz that guy's always dramatic
1:23:10
yes it's a big giant guy and he's really
1:23:12
dramatic yeah but I have not been able
1:23:15
to catch another clip like that for a
1:23:17
couple of years now talking about well
1:23:20
yeah a fascinating story yesterday a
1:23:22
girl of America's heartland of Saudi
1:23:24
Arabia's 333 bucks yes for risotto we
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please preload the following jingles
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dogs for people to that's true gentlemen
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good day donating today in honor of our
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beloved mutt Charles Bartholomew FUBU
1:23:39
Zotoh the third junior junior who passed
1:23:42
away a couple of days ago he's been sick
1:23:44
for a while so we knew he'd probably
1:23:46
won't
1:23:47
he wasn't long for this world but
1:23:49
passing was still something of a shock
1:23:51
Damon's melody and Isabella and I are
1:23:54
hanging in there but we would appreciate
1:23:56
some service goat Karma for our family
1:23:58
and all those who have experienced this
1:24:00
loss it was a wonderful 10 years with a
1:24:03
very good boy we're going to miss that
1:24:06
mongrel thanks very courage sir Dave
1:24:11
Earl of America's heartland in Saudi
1:24:12
Arabia we and we make a lot of jokes
1:24:14
about dogs but if there's one reason I
1:24:16
really really don't want pets anymore is
1:24:19
that I hate it when they die this is
1:24:22
like and that you remember that so much
1:24:24
more than when you got them the first
1:24:26
day
1:24:34
you've got karma sir sander in Zaandam
1:24:44
on Hill 296 20 is in Holland hi guys I
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always remember the remember that
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remember that fifth of November is my
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twin daughter's birthday
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I heard birthdays if it's twin
1:25:01
daughter's birthday is it twin daughters
1:25:02
birthday or twin daughters birthdays
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it's them or it's them's birthday
1:25:08
them's birthday today we celebrate them
1:25:12
becoming teenagers whoo-hoo
1:25:15
trot this is a hashtag total fucking die
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hashbrown trots trot evader Trotter Josh
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the Raider throat's a father
1:25:28
which means matzo father I wasn't
1:25:31
thinking it was induction with this
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donation I gained my Earl status please
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change my current status from Baron of
1:25:43
the Alps to Earl of the Swiss Alps
1:25:45
because Alps an area that covers eight
1:25:50
different countries is too difficult to
1:25:52
put on the no agenda peerage map I think
1:25:55
oh I do not get it ready I did not get
1:25:58
it registered with no agenda maps
1:26:00
anyways going on and then he's got
1:26:03
something about the Alps or Wikipedia
1:26:05
link thanks to both to both you curry to
1:26:08
both your curry throats the father means
1:26:18
proud dad and that's the translation of
1:26:21
that hashtag okay but otherwise yeah I
1:26:24
think he kind of got got hi there
1:26:26
halfway through Dutch things we do that
1:26:30
you know let me bang out an email hold
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on oh yeah Alps thank you sir cylinder
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will change your title momentarily and
1:26:42
of course dr. Fuji will see you on the
1:26:44
later as well
1:26:46
sir Donnell broski our buddy from
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supposed to tell he's actually his
1:26:55
tightest actual title is Sir Donald of
1:26:57
the fire bottles count of Worcester
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Eastern Washington state he sent a note
1:27:02
in on United Federation of Planets
1:27:04
letterhead but she didn't have to
1:27:06
because he's already donated enough
1:27:08
money to get all notes read once again
1:27:11
time has gotten away from me so here is
1:27:12
my donation for October and November
1:27:14
which is two times one two three four
1:27:17
five or two hundred forty six dollars
1:27:19
and ninety cents I include an article
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from Car and Driver about people pushing
1:27:24
back against self-driving cars Cheers
1:27:27
Sir David okay all right did he want any
1:27:30
jingling he has no Chinglish or anything
1:27:34
listed so we're something but get my
1:27:36
karma exactly you've got karma and so
1:27:46
here we go here is our buddy
1:27:47
sir compost arranger and Grand Canyon
1:27:50
Arizona $200 oh yeah we referred to him
1:27:54
recently
1:27:54
uh-huh
1:27:56
first off it's been several months since
1:27:58
I've donated so I humbly requested e
1:28:00
douching deduced I've been a bit busy
1:28:07
lately and I've been catching up on the
1:28:09
fast pew it fast pew episodes I saved
1:28:12
the last two in my phone and look
1:28:14
forward to listening to them while I
1:28:15
around the Grand Canyon for work hikers
1:28:18
invariably still presume I'm listening
1:28:21
to a douchey TED talk as they burst out
1:28:24
laughing yeah there you go
1:28:27
in fact we should just have all our
1:28:29
album art to say TED talk talk light
1:28:42
TEDx I am confident that I have people
1:28:45
say why don't you do a TED talk and what
1:28:47
you do they pay no no is your answer but
1:28:54
it's a TEDx it's for the community yeah
1:28:57
for somebody's making money how am i
1:28:59
doing something for a non-profit or
1:29:01
somebody's not making it somebody
1:29:03
starving it is like this show right
1:29:07
somebody's walking away with millions
1:29:09
and creating this huge industry I'm not
1:29:11
gonna pay me this ridiculous I'm
1:29:13
confident it's fine I'm confident
1:29:16
they're bemused smiles would disappear
1:29:18
from their faces that they're thinking
1:29:19
this a TEDx talk TED talk the instant
1:29:22
they learn I'm actually listening to two
1:29:24
old white guys anyhow in response to
1:29:28
John's question a few episodes ago
1:29:29
whether I can still accommodate
1:29:31
producers who wish to visit the Grand
1:29:33
Canyon unfortunately I no longer have
1:29:36
the apartment I had when I initially
1:29:38
made the offer because I moved to
1:29:40
Glacier National Park in 2018 to shoot
1:29:45
to shoot Prato to shoot problem grizzly
1:29:48
bears with green bags and rubber bullets
1:29:50
for the summer when I returned to Grand
1:29:53
Canyon a year ago the Park Service put
1:29:55
me up in a haunted old hospital room
1:29:58
that has been converted into a very
1:30:00
Spartan living quarters I'm no longer
1:30:02
able to help out that's too bad
1:30:05
you can probably give us a tour well hey
1:30:08
I'd like to shoot some bean bags and
1:30:10
some Grizzlies that sounds like a a plum
1:30:12
job cut until the Grizzlies go after you
1:30:17
this shows have been remarkable
1:30:19
phenomenal recently and I'm patiently
1:30:22
awaiting the hovering Killary to finally
1:30:25
swoop in and enter the ring of
1:30:27
professional wrestling keep up the great
1:30:30
deconstruction and know that your
1:30:32
analysis is deeply appreciated miles
1:30:35
into the inner Canyon at some bunkhouse
1:30:38
where there's no Wi-Fi cable or any
1:30:41
radio reception
1:30:42
I request jobs karma for all and a China
1:30:46
is asshole sir Campos range are always
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lovely to get a note from you jobs jobs
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and jobs let's vote for job you've got
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karma and that's the end of our list of
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associate executive producers and
1:31:06
executive producers for sure 1188 I want
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1:31:17
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1:31:30
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1:31:32
you're gonna get hired these days I've
1:31:33
learned now all these job sites is
1:31:35
bullcrap
1:31:36
you gotta put stuff on your LinkedIn
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profile fill that out that's where
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people are finding jobs it's much I just
1:31:42
happen to know this from some recent
1:31:43
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our next show on the second Thursday of
1:32:00
the week also known as Sunday is go to
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1:32:07
predict everything like Hillary our
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formula is this we go out for your
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people in the mouth
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my gosh can you see that cute
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1:32:29
just fit it in there just got it in the
1:32:32
hole good shot so I want to play us
1:32:37
something to take a little side trip
1:32:38
here and do a little something a little
1:32:41
intellectual oh why I wanted to play
1:32:45
back day to kick the kick drugs okay
1:32:48
let's try it this is there's a guy out
1:32:52
there who's a very famous historian he
1:32:54
talks mostly about the Peloponnesian
1:32:56
wars and things like that his name's
1:32:58
Victor David Hansen honestly I've seen
1:33:00
these marine area die character he did a
1:33:05
book recently called the case for Trump
1:33:07
oh yeah he's total Pro Trump he's a
1:33:10
trump er yeah and and he manages to get
1:33:14
by an academia I was looking at some
1:33:15
stats recently this year in the social
1:33:18
sciences or even the history department
1:33:19
the ratio of Democrats or Republicans
1:33:21
it's like 50 to 1 mm-hmm but he is so
1:33:26
good that nobody cares but he was on
1:33:27
this show that the Stanford Hoover
1:33:31
Institute does right okay your question
1:33:34
yes what exactly is the Hoover Institute
1:33:37
who's behind it what's the deal who's
1:33:39
financing it well the Hoover Institution
1:33:42
around forever and I started off I think
1:33:44
with an endowment from Hoover himself to
1:33:47
Stanford and it became this Institute
1:33:49
and who's currently financing it is I
1:33:52
don't know but I'm sure it's a bunch of
1:33:53
writers it's a part of Stanford
1:33:55
University yes it is
1:33:57
so but he's not kinda they load up with
1:34:00
visiting professors mm-hmm and people
1:34:03
who are over there to write books while
1:34:05
they're there and they have meetings
1:34:07
here in nation but this is a Stanford
1:34:10
isn't that a liberal Lefty yes College
1:34:14
the Hoover Institute David the way they
1:34:16
see it the Hoover Institute is like
1:34:17
there we're balanced like that okay yeah
1:34:27
I hear you got you make sense look at
1:34:33
the Hoover Institute in the cage over
1:34:35
there we're balanced okay he did a
1:34:41
couple of historical and now
1:34:43
seas of World War two and I thought that
1:34:45
these I picked a couple of clips up just
1:34:47
very three of them and I wanted to play
1:34:50
and probably us in the order let's start
1:34:53
with Victor Hansen on Japan in World War
1:34:56
two Japan Japan was strange because as I
1:35:00
said they were the most vicious they
1:35:02
killed seventeen million people in China
1:35:04
and yet they lost three million quite a
1:35:07
lot we burned down 40% of their urban
1:35:10
through the b-29 in sendiri raids and
1:35:12
Hiroshima and Nagasaki but we never
1:35:15
invaded their land as we had done Italy
1:35:18
in Germany so they had not seen a battle
1:35:20
on their own turf I know they've been
1:35:23
bombed but when they unilaterally then
1:35:26
surrendered they never quite accepted
1:35:29
that the American marines or army could
1:35:32
get face to face with when they never
1:35:33
came to deal with her past as they do
1:35:35
today and if you don't believe me they
1:35:37
just put their big first big carrier you
1:35:39
see it they just launched it you know
1:35:42
what the name of it was the kaga you
1:35:44
know what the cargo was it was the
1:35:45
leading carrier of Pearl Harbor
1:35:47
huh and those yeah this is recent this
1:35:52
speech he did
1:35:54
this yeah this was a speech it was in
1:35:56
the interview uh this was probably about
1:35:58
three years old okay I ran into it I
1:36:00
thought it had good stuff that I'd never
1:36:01
heard before I didn't know that I didn't
1:36:05
know that either
1:36:05
it's kind of the only reason for the
1:36:07
clip it's not piece of obscure
1:36:08
information for trim it so on it's kind
1:36:11
of rude
1:36:11
you think yeah I mean how come not worse
1:36:14
Trump calling him out on this well I
1:36:17
think it was during the Obama team so
1:36:18
that explains it okay got it now let's
1:36:21
talk about a peas bit a little bit this
1:36:23
was good in 1932 1933 the Oxford
1:36:29
debating society a very famous debate
1:36:32
said for king and country I shall not
1:36:35
fight at the same time they were already
1:36:39
trying to violate the Tennis the
1:36:41
Versailles Treaty in Germany Mussolini
1:36:44
was already planning to go into Ethiopia
1:36:46
the Japanese had been fighting for two
1:36:48
years so there was the sense of
1:36:50
appeasement which is a good word at that
1:36:52
time that you were ready ready to listen
1:36:54
soft power lead from behind that's what
1:36:57
it was but it meant that they sacrificed
1:37:00
their material advantages because the
1:37:03
people in it were not willing to fight
1:37:05
in other words they weren't they lost it
1:37:06
turns because they were not willing to
1:37:08
lose a few thousand soldiers so they
1:37:11
wouldn't lose 60 million people in a war
1:37:13
and that translated on the battlefield
1:37:15
as a bf109 was no better than a french
1:37:19
fighter mark three tank was no better or
1:37:22
worse than a shark tank but five
1:37:25
missions for BF 109 per day - for a
1:37:30
french fighter french tanks ran out of
1:37:33
gas
1:37:34
germans did not
1:37:38
so he's making the point that there was
1:37:41
no German advantage insofar as armament
1:37:45
this was concerned it was just
1:37:47
enthusiasm
1:37:50
yeah they were you know if there's one
1:37:53
thing I can say about those Nazis they
1:37:55
had enthusiasm to were enthusiastic very
1:37:58
enthusiastic about the mission yes yeah
1:38:01
good point from the professor there
1:38:03
mm-hmm now so again this speech took
1:38:06
place during the Obama administration so
1:38:08
this is his last little clip I thought
1:38:09
was interesting he's talking about the
1:38:11
UK and it's something we never consider
1:38:15
in fact we don't even consider the fact
1:38:17
that Russia is largely responsible for
1:38:19
winning World War two
1:38:20
well we draw you and I do with you and I
1:38:23
do in a few people listening to show do
1:38:25
and some other people that are sensible
1:38:27
to realize this but a lot of people
1:38:29
don't and they don't care one way or the
1:38:31
other but this part about the UK is not
1:38:34
discussed and it's probably just as
1:38:36
important as recognizing the Russia for
1:38:39
helping beat Hitler and it's kind of
1:38:42
more interesting because it's even more
1:38:45
ignored Britain waged a brilliant war it
1:38:49
was the only country to fight the first
1:38:50
day of the war and the last day of war
1:38:52
September 1st of September 2nd six years
1:38:54
no other country fought the entire war
1:38:56
no other country went to war think of
1:38:58
this for the principle of an ally we
1:39:01
only went to war when they attack the
1:39:02
Soviet Union only went to war when they
1:39:04
attacked us Germany attacked people
1:39:06
Italy attacked people Japan not Britain
1:39:08
it went through a war for principle they
1:39:11
were brilliantly led they put 40 percent
1:39:15
of their investment in land and sea air
1:39:17
and naval power they avoided this Psalm
1:39:20
that Verdun they lost the fewest of all
1:39:22
the major 425 less than half what they
1:39:25
had lost in World War one and they
1:39:26
fought a much more ambitious war into
1:39:28
that being said they Mobil I think we
1:39:33
mobilized they mobilized to a degree
1:39:35
that was unprecedented
1:39:36
so in terms of per capita investment
1:39:40
than the United States or Soviet Union
1:39:42
and they were flat broke when the war
1:39:43
was over and then unfortunately because
1:39:46
of the deprivation they began to
1:39:48
socialize their rails their healthcare
1:39:50
system
1:39:51
transportation their iron their steel
1:39:54
industries or power and lo and behold
1:39:56
within ten years the countries that were
1:39:58
flattened like Japan and Germany were
1:40:01
industrial powerhouses turning out
1:40:03
Mercedes and Honda's & Toyota's and
1:40:05
Britain's car industry take one example
1:40:07
was over with so they had a very tragic
1:40:09
and they also gave up their empire
1:40:12
willingly so but there there's was a
1:40:14
tragic experience it makes me very mad
1:40:19
when I hear Obama saying they're gonna
1:40:20
get back at the queue they were the most
1:40:22
admirable and idealistic of all the
1:40:25
allies and they fought way above what
1:40:27
they people thought they were capable in
1:40:29
every single category munitions except
1:40:32
one year of planes they out produced the
1:40:34
Third Reich that had all of occupied the
1:40:36
EU of today under its power huh well of
1:40:41
course it's true I mean even when we had
1:40:43
our office in London it was still in
1:40:45
shortage you know which was being
1:40:47
rebuilt as the hipster place to be but
1:40:49
there were still bombed out buildings
1:40:50
there yeah they they took they took it
1:40:53
hard but you know what they had an
1:40:55
enthusiastic guy
1:40:58
they had Church they had a motivational
1:41:00
speaker yeah well this is what's
1:41:02
interesting is Burchill both countries
1:41:04
had motive motivated enthusiastic guys
1:41:09
including Hitler if you're writing about
1:41:12
World War two for a paper at school
1:41:15
you can just say Adam uncle Adam and
1:41:17
uncle John said these were really
1:41:19
enthusiastic guys
1:41:22
now just a little world war ii tit but
1:41:25
which i feel bad about because i'm
1:41:29
watching the documentary cuz p QED PBS
1:41:34
or logo PBS station has fallen prey to
1:41:36
the History Channel's kind of
1:41:40
programming ideas and they have this
1:41:42
series called Nazi mega weapons oh
1:41:45
that's a good one
1:41:46
I like that what they have like a
1:41:49
mile-long cannon and stuff no they were
1:41:51
talking about the v1 in this game okay
1:41:53
right there v1 story on Nazi mega
1:41:56
weapons is it's like riveting it's very
1:41:59
interesting and I did not realize all
1:42:01
these years being a baby boomer all
1:42:07
these years that the v1 attacks on
1:42:09
London when they really started sending
1:42:12
the V ones over that I finally got the
1:42:14
thing to work yeah all took place after
1:42:17
d-day oh I didn't know that either huh
1:42:20
so I always thought there was just
1:42:22
something that was going on on d-day
1:42:24
second today yeah done all right we're
1:42:27
good to go
1:42:27
ha no so when d-day after d-day was well
1:42:31
underway well underway not just the day
1:42:34
after we're well underway they start
1:42:35
that's when they did the attack on
1:42:37
London with it with the v1 smile so huh
1:42:41
that was news to me that's the and I
1:42:43
felt like an idiot you know they still
1:42:45
dig one of those up from time to time
1:42:46
here and in Holland they're draining
1:42:49
some water yeah because they do that
1:42:52
like reclaiming reclaiming some land and
1:42:54
all of a sudden they'll be the v1 Oh
1:42:57
surface unexploded of course stuff like
1:43:00
that shows up all the time
1:43:01
dude was it's the interesting thing
1:43:02
about this v1 that really got my
1:43:05
attention I'd like to see at this
1:43:06
machine I like to see there was a little
1:43:09
device they rolled out that was the size
1:43:10
of like a v8 engine with a bunch of big
1:43:14
pipes and weird stuff cooked to it and
1:43:17
it was it was some sort of a steam bomb
1:43:20
and they would hook this thing to the
1:43:22
the v1 would be strapped to this rocket
1:43:25
launcher device so would get it going
1:43:27
hmm
1:43:28
and they did this thing generated this
1:43:31
little device it was very small I was
1:43:33
moving I wasn't like a ramjet type deal
1:43:35
they had going on
1:43:36
there yeah but the ramjets a real
1:43:38
problematic cuz you can't make them
1:43:40
actually do anything until they're going
1:43:42
at high speeds it's a it was a ramjet
1:43:46
huh but they had to get it launching
1:43:48
into the air it at high speeds to get it
1:43:51
to start really working and then it took
1:43:53
off it like the ramjet it wasn't flew
1:43:55
across the channel but they had to
1:43:57
launch it with something and they didn't
1:43:59
have like rocket launchers or any way to
1:44:01
get in to go into anything would want to
1:44:03
use a spring or anything they had this
1:44:05
little device and they showed it and it
1:44:07
was like it created a steam bomb and
1:44:10
they'd wrap it onto this they did latch
1:44:13
it onto the back of the launching
1:44:16
platform and it would be hooked to them
1:44:18
to the rocket and then they clamp it
1:44:20
down with a bunch of these levers and it
1:44:22
would then they turn it on it would
1:44:23
generate this apparently like
1:44:27
unbelievable amount of steam and then
1:44:30
they release it and it would go push
1:44:33
this rocket up and if you see any
1:44:35
launches of a v1 if you're gonna look
1:44:37
them up on YouTube all that smoke and
1:44:40
crap is actually the steam explosion and
1:44:43
then they roll the thing back and use it
1:44:45
again what was this thing is there a an
1:44:49
equivalent for rockets for train fo Murs
1:44:54
I think you hit the nail on the head -
1:44:58
the more you know in the mornings
1:45:00
[Music]
1:45:12
that's right everybody we're looking at
1:45:14
glitches bitches that's right hit me now
1:45:19
yes there's been some glitches in the
1:45:21
news that I'd like to highlight from
1:45:23
time to time because sometimes they
1:45:25
affect your life which unless you're OTG
1:45:28
and you're careful with what you rely on
1:45:31
for your life but sometimes it can be a
1:45:33
really interesting thing and not
1:45:36
necessarily a negative such as the
1:45:38
latest glitch in the Robin Hood trading
1:45:42
app some tricky Robin Hood users were
1:45:44
able to get extra leverage on the
1:45:46
training app they did this by the way
1:45:48
this audio is what CNBC broadcasts I
1:45:50
didn't have anything to do with that at
1:45:52
over modulated traps you leverage on the
1:45:54
training app they did this through
1:45:55
margin training which is perfectly
1:45:57
common very legal a lot of brokerage
1:45:59
firms do that so users are able to put
1:46:01
down a small percentage of the train and
1:46:04
then a brokerage firm acts as a lender
1:46:06
the glitcher though was that users
1:46:07
overstated the amount of money that they
1:46:09
had in their accounts to borrow and
1:46:11
we're able to sort of cheat the system
1:46:13
here so it's discovered on reddit you
1:46:15
can think of this similar to a sort of
1:46:17
video game hack where users were helping
1:46:19
each other out and outlining a step by
1:46:21
step process so other people could
1:46:23
repeat this they were calling it like
1:46:25
you said infinite leverage or the
1:46:27
infinite money cheat code one trader was
1:46:29
claiming on reddit that he took a 1
1:46:31
million dollar position was only four
1:46:34
thousand dollars worth of deposits
1:46:36
another claim that he got 25 times
1:46:38
leverage and fifty thousand dollars
1:46:41
worth of buying power to buy some stock
1:46:43
to Robin Hood technology in the glitch
1:46:45
and that this happened a spokesperson
1:46:46
telling CNBC they're aware of the
1:46:49
isolated situations and are
1:46:50
communicating directly with customers I
1:46:53
kind of like this glitch which you know
1:46:57
it about it you can call it a glitch or
1:46:59
you could just say major boo-boo bad
1:47:03
code my goodness so yes so somehow you
1:47:05
able to hack around in the app so that
1:47:07
it gave you unlimited leverage you could
1:47:10
borrow as much as you needed for your
1:47:12
trades oh my god how those trades were
1:47:15
were handled in the after all's said and
1:47:19
done they have to I wonder if they wind
1:47:21
him back mom they might wind him back I
1:47:23
don't know but then they also have to
1:47:24
wind back the one person I saw who
1:47:26
posted something that they they did a
1:47:28
big leverage thing in their app and they
1:47:30
were down 22 grand
1:47:31
I wonder if you get that back to not
1:47:34
only the prophecy okay probably don't
1:47:37
get that back
1:47:39
then there was this is one of my
1:47:41
favorites we go to Australia and that of
1:47:43
the hardest part of the day and it
1:47:45
really is if you are some of the drivers
1:47:46
out there safely getting tens of
1:47:48
thousands of people out of flemington
1:47:50
Jade Vinson is on Ballarat Road Jade
1:47:53
just absolute bumper-to-bumper bedlam
1:47:56
over where you have a look at the cars
1:48:00
as you say bumper-to-bumper here on
1:48:01
Ballarat Road these are mostly uber
1:48:04
drivers trying to get into Flemington
1:48:06
Racecourse to pick people up who are
1:48:08
desperately trying to get home and this
1:48:11
is all because of a major technical
1:48:13
glitch we out today so the pickup zones
1:48:16
inside the racecourse have been shut
1:48:18
down while uber tries to work to fix the
1:48:21
problem race goers tens of thousands of
1:48:23
race goers who were planning on you
1:48:24
using uber to get home we're told that
1:48:27
they need to walk streets away from
1:48:29
Flemington to book an uber or find an
1:48:31
alternative mode of transport
1:48:34
uber did apologize for the inconvenience
1:48:36
and released a statement saying
1:48:38
unfortunately technical issues have
1:48:40
meant that we are currently unable to
1:48:42
connect all drivers and riders at the
1:48:44
dedicated uber signs oh brother this is
1:48:49
just the beginning
1:48:50
you know taxis aren't that much more
1:48:52
expensive or if they even are and they
1:48:55
want you to jump in a cab and get out of
1:48:56
it a lot cheaper in this case because
1:48:58
because of the glitch they had so many
1:49:00
people that they went into there what is
1:49:04
their overdrive their surge surge price
1:49:07
yes sir surge pricing so is like 30
1:49:12
bucks which is twice as much as a cab
1:49:14
that's Australian dollar adieu so you
1:49:16
know nothing basically pennies pennies
1:49:18
are driving for around there
1:49:22
very strange so just a few few other
1:49:25
things that are happening oh yeah oh
1:49:28
this I got a good couple things you want
1:49:29
to let's do this this is a little site
1:49:32
thing this is when Steve Hilton attacked
1:49:33
it Maria you know about this yeah I was
1:49:36
just gonna do have to more edgy things
1:49:38
but if you want to move away this call
1:49:39
way off the great well if you're gonna
1:49:40
do off-the-grid do more off the grid
1:49:42
because I think I may have something
1:49:43
oh good well I just have two stories one
1:49:47
is Google apparently now finally killing
1:49:50
off URLs if you look at not everyone has
1:49:54
it but a lot of people who are now
1:49:56
getting search results you just get the
1:49:59
result with a link and it doesn't give
1:50:01
you the URL anymore
1:50:04
which is doesn't it still show up in the
1:50:08
a12 invariably I've seen it twice
1:50:12
although in Netherlands so I don't know
1:50:14
what I'm hitting here twice it showed up
1:50:16
where I didn't see them and now I just
1:50:18
of course when talking about it it does
1:50:20
show them but they're experimenting with
1:50:22
it and it's been going on forever yeah a
1:50:25
lot of people think well I think it's a
1:50:27
hijack personally they want to do
1:50:29
keyword exactly that's exactly what
1:50:32
they're going for keywords and then this
1:50:34
latest experiment which I didn't realize
1:50:37
was possible I mean would take quite a
1:50:39
bit to actually use this as a hack but
1:50:44
it turns out when you have these talking
1:50:48
tubes or spy spy devices as we like to
1:50:51
call them such as Amazon Alexa and the
1:50:54
Google home now they use the MEMS
1:50:56
microphones which is a microphone array
1:50:58
what is what does MEMS stand for do you
1:51:00
know what that is John MEMS yab you the
1:51:02
micro electronic mechanism something
1:51:05
like I don't have the exact term but
1:51:07
these are these are micro mechanical
1:51:11
devices that are for example if you have
1:51:14
a Kindle
1:51:17
that's a MEMS display and so it's that's
1:51:20
why so just semi-permanent when it comes
1:51:23
on mm-hmm it's because you're actually
1:51:26
looking at little things that flip did
1:51:30
microscopic levels oh well that makes
1:51:32
sense then MEMS are also used in modern
1:51:37
these crazy scales you can buy at Costco
1:51:39
they don't have anything this spring
1:51:42
snow spring is you stand on the scale
1:51:44
and the MEMS that are on the four feet
1:51:47
oh okay interesting they can do weights
1:51:51
they can mmm technology which there's
1:51:53
taken over mostly by the Europeans has
1:51:55
not been emphasized much in this country
1:51:57
because we kind of fell behind in the
1:52:01
technology most of Europeans do it and
1:52:04
then it was taken over by the Japanese
1:52:05
and the Chinese so well this yeah
1:52:07
there's a pretty cool hack and now I
1:52:09
understand why the hack works because it
1:52:11
works with Google Assistant Amazon Alexa
1:52:14
Facebook portal and Apple Siri
1:52:17
what the tet what the hack is is
1:52:20
modulating a laser then in the
1:52:24
demonstration is just you know like a
1:52:25
laser pen they modulated it with okay
1:52:29
google open the garage door in the and
1:52:32
they point the laser through through a
1:52:36
window onto the microphone of and the
1:52:39
the demo I saw was Google assistant and
1:52:42
the laser activates the MEMS and then
1:52:45
the garage you know it goo GLE home
1:52:47
actually said okay opening the garage
1:52:49
door not hearing anything but activated
1:52:52
by the light
1:52:55
Wow how cool is that this is another for
1:52:59
you writers out there looking for a
1:53:00
storyline you imagine how much damage
1:53:04
you could do if if you can you can
1:53:07
control everything through or a lot of
1:53:10
things I like to hear more about this
1:53:12
because if the ma'am microphone which
1:53:16
I've always wondered why I haven't seen
1:53:18
more of these things if that it can be
1:53:21
it's generally they're pretty specific
1:53:24
on how they work and if it could be
1:53:26
activated by a pulsating laser and I'm
1:53:30
skeptic well they have a YouTube video
1:53:32
of it it's in the show notes at any show
1:53:34
notes com
1:53:35
it looks legit and in fact they even use
1:53:37
the telescope that's how far away they
1:53:40
were to folk to be able to see if they
1:53:42
were focusing on the device itself and
1:53:44
it worked
1:53:46
I like the idea that I'd cast it I'm
1:53:52
very skeptical of this story well I
1:53:54
thought it was very cool and then I
1:53:56
learned a little bit about what because
1:54:00
there's a lot of people here who I know
1:54:02
who I'm being sketchy I know who review
1:54:06
stuff for search companies and their job
1:54:11
is to check to see if what someone said
1:54:14
when they asked ok Google whatever the
1:54:18
question was you know there's a I guess
1:54:20
there's a random selection and these
1:54:23
worker people who are you know minimum
1:54:27
wage are paid to to make decisions if
1:54:31
this is something that if did they get
1:54:33
the right result from the search engine
1:54:35
and I've learned two important standards
1:54:38
because I'm always interested in the
1:54:40
guidelines you know well woody what are
1:54:42
you supposed to do what are you supposed
1:54:43
to to be looking at well you know we
1:54:46
have two phrases that are embedded into
1:54:49
our brain one is eat expertise authority
1:54:53
and trustworthiness so if there's a
1:54:56
search and the search is asking for some
1:55:01
expertise or some for instance should I
1:55:05
take the flu vaccine then they have to
1:55:08
look at the answer based upon expertise
1:55:11
Authority and trustworthiness and you
1:55:14
can only imagine that yes is always
1:55:16
selected because you know these people
1:55:19
then go searching around for the answer
1:55:22
and then they get what they think fits
1:55:24
in the expertise authority and
1:55:26
trustworthiness or the eat section and
1:55:30
the next thing is
1:55:33
escalate anything that is your money or
1:55:36
your life so if they see something and
1:55:39
you're asking for a certain thing about
1:55:41
a bank transfer or anything that could
1:55:44
then this could come back to vaccines I
1:55:47
guess immediately you have to escalate
1:55:49
it your money or your life that's an
1:55:50
escalation and everything else is eat
1:55:52
expertise authority and trustworthiness
1:55:54
so I was interesting you have some terms
1:55:56
to what they're doing you're getting
1:56:00
this there's some locals some local guy
1:56:02
that's a mole yep for you yep yep good
1:56:05
same person who told me that the number
1:56:07
one search during rush hour in the
1:56:10
Netherlands Google search so someone's
1:56:13
talking into their phone and asked and
1:56:16
these are old guys we don't know
1:56:17
anything else other than they sound old
1:56:19
in their car asking for porn with black
1:56:23
women
1:56:25
I know it's very disturbing to think
1:56:28
about that in the nether Holland yes and
1:56:32
that is a common search term during rush
1:56:35
hour people talking to their phones
1:56:38
requesting this while they're in their
1:56:40
car
1:56:43
but wait a minute this they're talking
1:56:46
about for day one where's the porn gonna
1:56:48
show up or the guys just somebody on the
1:56:50
screen they free didn't have it if you
1:56:52
if you're in the car you just say to
1:56:54
your phone ok Google show some porn with
1:56:57
black women yeah and then what well then
1:57:02
it'll take you to a page and it'll and
1:57:04
you're driving
1:57:05
hello yes I understand your surprise yes
1:57:12
they're driving when they ask these
1:57:14
questions yes I guess they just want to
1:57:16
see it while they're driving or maybe
1:57:17
they're stuck in traffic they're bored
1:57:21
brother it's always terrible I just
1:57:28
thought that's a great statistic
1:57:30
yeah well it's one of those trade
1:57:33
secrets yeah I guess the point being
1:57:37
that there's a lot of people who are
1:57:39
marginally qualified making decisions
1:57:41
about what is right for you to see or
1:57:44
not it's certainly not any smart is no
1:57:48
I'll go around doing it for you
1:57:53
all right well I accept looking for my
1:57:56
off-the-grid thing I got nothing oh
1:57:58
great
1:57:59
so we can go to listening to Steve
1:58:02
Hilton the tech oh no no then I can I
1:58:05
can do something else for you before you
1:58:07
go I do want to hear the Steve Hilton
1:58:09
thing I know you're all you know Gitty
1:58:11
about it I'm all jacked up about it but
1:58:13
there's something else going on do you
1:58:15
remember when we talked about Google's
1:58:18
sidewalk project for Seattle this is the
1:58:22
project where you have a replicant and
1:58:25
they build a whole profile about you and
1:58:29
where you stopped and so they have
1:58:31
everyone thought it was creepy when we
1:58:32
played it they build us still have the
1:58:35
old clip no I'm sure I have it somewhere
1:58:38
yeah let me see yeah it'll creep people
1:58:40
out again okay well you want to play the
1:58:43
whole thing but we'll play a little bit
1:58:45
here we go
1:58:46
replica is made up of two parts a
1:58:49
replica activity table a database
1:58:51
representing all the trips and
1:58:53
activities so this is the smart city and
1:58:55
it's not just in Seattle but this this
1:58:57
particular older clip is about Seattle
1:58:59
and the smart city this this Google
1:59:02
project it has sensors and monitors
1:59:04
everywhere in the streetlamps you know I
1:59:07
guess it was a dish in Toronto I believe
1:59:09
yesterday on toe is my next clip but we
1:59:11
start with the with the Seattle and
1:59:13
here's the creep they're gonna bring on
1:59:15
your life
1:59:16
right people in an area and explore an
1:59:18
easy-to-use interface for querying the
1:59:21
data and creating maps and charts first
1:59:24
let's look at how a replica activity
1:59:26
table is created we use cell phone
1:59:29
location data covering a small
1:59:30
percentage of the population to learn
1:59:33
about travel patterns and create a
1:59:35
travel behavior model basically a set of
1:59:38
rules that represent how a person makes
1:59:40
choices on where when why and how to
1:59:43
travel the location data is collected by
1:59:46
third party mobile apps with all
1:59:48
identifying information like names and
1:59:50
phone numbers removed so shortly we use
1:59:53
aggregate census information and other
1:59:56
sources to create what planners call a
1:59:58
synthetic population this is a virtual
2:00:01
population that is statistically
2:00:02
representative of the real population
2:00:04
you remember all this
2:00:07
yes SimCity exactly so creepy obviously
2:00:14
and there's some talk in there about oh
2:00:16
yeah it'll just be anonymized data and
2:00:18
we won't know anything don't worry about
2:00:20
that big news out of Toronto where they
2:00:23
are planning and the late planning
2:00:26
stages of exactly the same project
2:00:29
the Toronto sidewalk project from
2:00:33
sidewalk labs which is 100% owned by
2:00:36
Google here's the news why did you
2:00:38
decide to resign this this is the
2:00:41
privacy expert who was brought on to the
2:00:43
project her name is Anne kabuki and I
2:00:46
think and she quit she stood up and quit
2:00:50
the other day I was hired by sidewalk
2:00:52
labs to embed privacy by design into all
2:00:56
of the smart city operations I developed
2:00:58
privacy by design years ago it's a
2:01:00
framework of proactively embedding much
2:01:02
needed privacy protective measures into
2:01:05
the design of the smart city now
2:01:07
normally that would involve obtaining
2:01:09
the positive consent of the residents of
2:01:12
the city but we know that's not possible
2:01:14
here because the data will be collected
2:01:17
automatically by sensors and other
2:01:19
technologies so the opportunity for
2:01:22
consent doesn't exist so what do we do
2:01:24
about that my comment was you must be
2:01:27
identify all the personally identifiable
2:01:29
information at source meaning at the
2:01:32
time it's collected by the sensor you D
2:01:35
identify it right then and there using
2:01:37
very strong D identification protocols
2:01:40
that will print resist re-identification
2:01:42
attacks that's essential and sidewalk
2:01:45
Labs has committed to that but recently
2:01:48
on on Thursday at the meeting they
2:01:51
indicated to Waterfront Toronto that
2:01:53
they want to create this new Civic Data
2:01:55
trust which is great a number of bodies
2:01:57
will participate and make decisions
2:01:59
relating to the use of the data but that
2:02:02
they could only encourage the D
2:02:05
identification of data not make it
2:02:08
mandatory and when I heard that that's
2:02:10
when I knew I had to resign you can't
2:02:13
the Civic data trust this is how they're
2:02:18
gonna do it as they say well you know we
2:02:22
we think it should be anonymized but we
2:02:25
feel it's important we put it into the
2:02:27
Civic data trust which is what all these
2:02:29
cities want these cities don't just want
2:02:30
Google to have all the information they
2:02:33
want the information so what I'm hearing
2:02:36
this privacy lady saying is that it's
2:02:40
really I think it's really not even
2:02:42
Google who's evil in this case I think
2:02:44
it's the city itself they want this data
2:02:47
they get the opportunity sure yeah you
2:02:50
need this data vault so that's what we
2:02:53
can do I know but everything where
2:02:55
they're walking how do they identify
2:02:56
somebody walking down the street your
2:02:59
phone your father would they identify me
2:03:03
facial recognition there's gonna be all
2:03:05
all of it's gonna be all over the plaza
2:03:07
you don't need the phone
2:03:08
no but phone is is great oh yeah I
2:03:11
should mention the the reviewers for the
2:03:14
search engine they also see what other
2:03:19
apps you have on your phone
2:03:22
and the their interface shows you where
2:03:25
you are when you ask the question it'll
2:03:27
say car living room bedroom they didn't
2:03:30
have a map of your house life is great
2:03:39
get that shit out of your house get it
2:03:41
out of your house now
2:03:44
before you know what it's all gonna be
2:03:46
in a civic data vault nobody listens to
2:03:49
you of course not
2:03:51
they just think I'm the old white guy
2:03:54
with the we are crackpot there's an
2:03:56
antique iPhone what is that thing what
2:04:00
is that thing damn it
2:04:01
you crazy old coot
2:04:04
hey anything happened with Steve Hilton
2:04:08
yeah he got on there one of the Fox
2:04:11
shows like it goes to clip I have is of
2:04:14
them cutting him off but I'm not got
2:04:17
least cutting Murray off but he's on the
2:04:20
show with just some straightforward
2:04:23
stuff I thought it was just reasonable
2:04:24
but it's funny how you know you can say
2:04:29
something like well hunter Biden who has
2:04:33
no experience in this industry this and
2:04:35
that and he took a $50,000 a month board
2:04:39
member I mean beginning paid $50,000 a
2:04:42
month to be on a board is ludicrous to
2:04:44
begin with Elissa throwing money away or
2:04:46
some scheme I mean that's I mean I've
2:04:49
never heard of those amounts that any
2:04:51
board that I've ever interacted with I
2:04:54
haven't either that's $1,000 a month
2:04:56
they're being on a board
2:04:57
I mean shares you they might get
2:04:59
warrants perhaps yeah well there was
2:05:01
none of that and he was sitting in a cup
2:05:04
in the country and the UK in Ukraine
2:05:06
where nobody's where they speak
2:05:08
Ukrainian you don't speak Ukrainian you
2:05:10
know nothing about the business but
2:05:11
you're on the board somehow and this
2:05:13
isn't apparently suspicious his proof of
2:05:17
nothing oh nothing Boyka so that's what
2:05:21
Marie harf says not Marie harf she is
2:05:25
she was the spokes hole for the State
2:05:29
Department for a while yes no bombs oh
2:05:32
and she's also the Bandcamp girl does
2:05:33
she not
2:05:36
think maybe Oh in this one time at band
2:05:39
camp I stuck a flute in my pussy yeah I
2:05:41
think that's her
2:05:42
that's my being that this or but here we
2:05:44
go and this is just a casual
2:05:45
conversation one of the Fox shows you
2:05:48
know where they're all sitting around
2:05:49
just yakking and she takes great offense
2:05:53
and lashes do you hear laughing a lot in
2:05:55
the background when every time he makes
2:05:57
some assertion and I just found the
2:06:00
whole thing to be offensive let's use
2:06:02
their tongue which is resistance let's
2:06:05
remember that about a year ago someone
2:06:08
wrote an anonymous op-ed saying there's
2:06:10
an organized resistance within the
2:06:12
bureaucracy to President Trump we are
2:06:14
fighting against him that person on top
2:06:17
of all these transcripts their book is
2:06:18
coming out in a couple of weeks these
2:06:20
people in the bureaucracy hate President
2:06:23
Trump they can't believe he's the
2:06:25
president they've been working against
2:06:27
him from day one you combine that with
2:06:29
the Democrats trying to overturn the
2:06:31
election from day one and that's what
2:06:33
you have now that's why we shouldn't
2:06:34
take it seriously and further these
2:06:36
people inside the bureaucracy the other
2:06:38
thing they're doing is protecting Joe
2:06:40
Biden because the only real corruption
2:06:42
allegation here is against Joe Baier he
2:06:45
was in charge of Ukraine policy he
2:06:47
supervised billions of dollars of aid
2:06:49
that went from the US taxpayer to
2:06:51
Ukraine much of that went to BIR yzma a
2:06:54
gas company that was paying his son how
2:06:57
much money did Joe Biden channel to his
2:06:59
son's business that's the corruption
2:07:02
allegation no one wants to explore that
2:07:04
these people are protecting against that
2:07:06
there's a further element of corruption
2:07:08
that needs to be looked into and again
2:07:09
something that Ukraine should
2:07:11
investigate which is John Kerry's
2:07:13
corruption he was Secretary of State at
2:07:15
the time he was also involved in
2:07:17
channeling money to Ukraine his former
2:07:19
chief of staff was hired by a Purisima
2:07:23
soon after hunter Biden went on the
2:07:25
board
2:07:26
they hired John Kerry's former chief of
2:07:29
staff while he was Secretary of State
2:07:30
paid him money from Burr yzma could have
2:07:33
come from the US taxpayer that money is
2:07:35
circled back to Democratic senators who
2:07:37
then write to the administration calling
2:07:39
for more money to be sent to Burr yzma
2:07:42
all of that needs to be investigated
2:07:43
John Kerry's evidence that anything you
2:07:46
bytes that I just I know
2:07:49
Department you're covering up the
2:07:51
corruption to it defending are you
2:07:53
that's billions of you talking about the
2:07:58
news please don't accuse me of covering
2:08:00
something up you want because we're
2:08:01
saying there's no effort it's not just
2:08:02
fair to political banker and why'd they
2:08:05
just cut them off right there boom done
2:08:07
yeah boom done
2:08:11
and that's what the thing is there's no
2:08:13
evidence
2:08:15
there's no evidence how can you say
2:08:17
there's okay there's no I don't know
2:08:19
what evidence are looking for but it
2:08:21
just seems a little fishy that some guys
2:08:24
making fifty thousand dollars a month to
2:08:27
attend a couple of board meetings of her
2:08:29
companies they knows nothing about
2:08:31
nobody thinks that's even worth looking
2:08:33
at it's beyond me I'd like to see an
2:08:36
analysis of what board members get paid
2:08:40
now I think I know the answer but I
2:08:42
think that would be an interesting
2:08:43
analysis someone could do but the State
2:08:46
Department is this is what I've come to
2:08:48
learn really it's such a machine and the
2:08:51
people inside the State Department it
2:08:53
must be tens of thousands of people who
2:08:56
work inside that machine you know and
2:08:59
they have been there for several
2:09:00
administrations many of them they really
2:09:03
believe that they're there the
2:09:06
government they do stuff it's they do
2:09:08
what they're what they really kind of
2:09:10
want to do and this is a deep state with
2:09:14
yes and this has no spook agency that
2:09:17
nobody knows well how many people are in
2:09:18
the spook agency the State Department's
2:09:21
crazy the network but and nobody can
2:09:24
tell you how many are in it because it's
2:09:25
a big secret but what they but what I'm
2:09:28
that's what's so puzzling is that they
2:09:31
are telling the through the media
2:09:33
actually the media is telling us this I
2:09:35
got to get some clips of this like it's
2:09:36
ridiculous and how would you why would
2:09:39
you fire an ambassador these are the
2:09:41
people who are doing the great work it's
2:09:43
like no ambassadors are you know
2:09:45
political appointees I mean it was the
2:09:48
Ambassador to Japan isn't it still the
2:09:50
kennedy kennedy girl come on come on
2:09:53
until she's been kissing powder got her
2:09:56
when Trump got in office he said all the
2:09:57
ambassadors everybody has to quit yeah
2:09:59
and everybody quit pretty much except
2:10:03
for that one woman to the to Ukraine why
2:10:05
didn't she quit this is the story that
2:10:07
needs also and she needs to be grilled
2:10:09
about this why does she hang around she
2:10:13
just said I'm staying and they had to
2:10:15
finally get her out of there but why was
2:10:17
she staying what was she there to burn
2:10:19
papers at the Embassy I mean what was
2:10:21
she staying there for the whole thing
2:10:23
makes no sense Brit Brit Hume who is the
2:10:28
old coot there on Fox I I think he's
2:10:30
pretty fair oh he's balanced when he's
2:10:33
not drinking so he's drinking it just
2:10:37
looks like it looks like a guy who
2:10:38
drinks he was tweeting about Lieutenant
2:10:42
Colonel Alexander vind Minh this is uh
2:10:46
you know this is the the guy that is
2:10:48
gonna sink Trump apparently and he said
2:10:50
he was deeply troubled this veeneman guy
2:10:53
was deeply troubled by what he believed
2:10:56
were President Donald Trump's attempts
2:10:58
to subvert u.s. foreign policy by you
2:11:05
know firing the the ambassador
2:11:10
it's the whole point that Brit Hume is
2:11:12
making is the president doesn't subvert
2:11:15
foreign policy I think the Constitution
2:11:18
actually states that he's the author of
2:11:20
foreign policy yeah he is foreign policy
2:11:24
and that is you know want to talk about
2:11:26
Constitution which seems to be some
2:11:28
people pick up a lot and the president
2:11:31
determines the foreign policy you have
2:11:33
nothing to do with it
2:11:35
but they're telling the American people
2:11:37
that Trump is nuts because he's firing
2:11:39
these Smarties who run the show and he's
2:11:45
subverting our foreign policy yeah he's
2:11:48
subverting their foreign policy for sure
2:11:51
gibbous not their policy to have exactly
2:11:55
exactly the state department does not
2:11:59
create foreign policy in the face of a
2:12:03
president for example who might be a
2:12:05
peacenik who wants to get us out of a
2:12:07
war right which he promised to do and so
2:12:11
the public votes him in to get us out of
2:12:13
these wars and the State Department all
2:12:15
of a sudden takes it upon itself to like
2:12:17
Wow well this is no good we want to be
2:12:20
in these wars what's that guy doing stop
2:12:24
mucking around in our business over here
2:12:26
exactly
2:12:28
I know it's one of the podcast took the
2:12:31
clip that you developed on Brennan on
2:12:34
c-span
2:12:34
yeah and used it with full credit to us
2:12:38
including a shot a screenshot of our oh
2:12:40
really over show art which is nice the
2:12:43
way they did it they just mentioned this
2:12:45
thing we master the the Brennan you're
2:12:48
guilty thing
2:12:49
no the Brennan no no not that at all
2:12:52
the Brennan we're the deep stage we
2:12:56
should do and we run in the show yeah
2:12:59
that was that you included you
2:13:01
complaining that that the CIA is not
2:13:04
supposed to have any domestic bonsai yes
2:13:06
there's this clip you have to agree that
2:13:09
not totally the impeachment inquiry is
2:13:11
underway sparked by a complaint from
2:13:14
someone within the individual needs the
2:13:18
president's concern and often use term
2:13:21
about a deep state being there to take
2:13:24
you know thank God for the deep state
2:13:28
that was actually mcLaughlin but then
2:13:30
Brennan does chime in later
2:13:32
he's also former CIA chief yeah well in
2:13:38
page
2:13:40
I thought the the news of the day for me
2:13:43
was and not for the reasons people might
2:13:45
think was this amy robach saying the
2:13:48
project Veritas got ahold of about
2:13:51
Epstein this pot Mike although wasn't
2:13:54
really a hot mic I mean she did she not
2:13:56
know there was a camera on her face it
2:13:58
looks like she was in kind of a camera I
2:14:00
think the way I perceived it yeah they
2:14:04
were just kind of as some explanation
2:14:05
she was definitely a hot mic but I don't
2:14:07
know that she knew it was on or that it
2:14:09
was recording and right yes yes but who
2:14:15
then snuck it out somehow
2:14:17
but she I thought was just having a
2:14:20
casual conversation with one of her
2:14:21
newer producers who was asking about
2:14:24
this and they wanted today were doing it
2:14:26
back if I do it would be nice that we
2:14:27
had the other side of the conversation
2:14:28
but we didn't and I thought it was just
2:14:33
one of those things that happens all the
2:14:34
time in these studios that's how they
2:14:35
caught Trump coming out of the bus
2:14:37
talking about grabbing by the pussy
2:14:39
right there's somebody in the control
2:14:41
room there's people that are in the
2:14:43
engineers the type of sound engineers
2:14:45
that we have are not too far away from
2:14:49
being there oh the microphone nerd they
2:14:52
they're of a certain ilk that like to
2:14:55
collect things dude the guy at MTV Rick
2:14:59
Kalman who did audio and I was hanging
2:15:02
out in the audio booth say do ya i did i
2:15:04
do did you because an mtv story here
2:15:06
comes empty he dude that makes sense
2:15:09
dude and he had a whole collection of
2:15:13
guests going to the bathroom it was
2:15:15
pretty funny because he'd my c'mon he'd
2:15:20
Michael he had everybody yeah you know
2:15:23
passing wind all kindest custom not a
2:15:27
lot of people I don't know I don't know
2:15:29
where it is I wish I had them labeled
2:15:32
get them labeled and everything
2:15:34
I'd love to collect outtakes - oh yeah
2:15:38
yeah all the app ties man so I mean
2:15:41
that's where the thing would be sigh
2:15:43
stop the hammering well that was on set
2:15:46
I mean there was somebody recorded it
2:15:49
and kept it and they saved it and it was
2:15:51
a part of a collection
2:15:52
so it's like Bill O'Reilly going nuts
2:15:54
we'll do it same thing these guys are
2:15:59
dangerous design sound engineers oh man
2:16:03
where's that O'Reilly cliff that is too
2:16:06
funny guys the control poor not to be
2:16:09
trusted
2:16:12
damn it anyway so they they get this
2:16:17
woman and here's the thing that bothers
2:16:18
me about the clip she is angry not
2:16:23
because three years ago she had all the
2:16:27
goods on Epstein and maybe could have
2:16:29
saved other women from abuse no no no
2:16:32
she's angry because they wouldn't let
2:16:35
her broadcast it I've had the story for
2:16:37
three years I've had this interview with
2:16:39
Virginia Roberts we would not put it on
2:16:41
the air first of all I was told who's
2:16:43
Jeffrey Epstein no one knows who that is
2:16:45
this is a stupid story then the palace
2:16:47
found out that we had her whole
2:16:50
allegations about Prince Andrew and
2:16:52
threatened us a million different ways
2:16:54
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2:16:55
we were so afraid we wouldn't be able to
2:16:57
interview Kate there's will think oh
2:16:59
that we think that also quashed the
2:17:01
story and then and then Alan Dershowitz
2:17:05
was also implicated in because of the
2:17:07
plane so she told me everything she had
2:17:09
pictures she had everything she was in
2:17:11
hiding for 12 years we convinced her to
2:17:13
come out we convinced her to talk to us
2:17:15
it was unbelievable what we had Clint
2:17:18
and we had everything
2:17:21
I tried for three years to get it on to
2:17:24
no avail and now it's all coming out and
2:17:26
it's like these new relevant revelations
2:17:28
and I freaking had all of it I I'm so
2:17:31
pissed right now like every day I get
2:17:33
more and more pissed cuz I'm just like
2:17:35
oh my god we it wasn't what we had was
2:17:38
unreal other women backing up Hey yep
2:17:43
right Edwards the Attorney three years
2:17:45
ago saying like on like we there will
2:17:48
come a day but we will realize Jeffrey
2:17:50
Epstein was the most prolific pedophile
2:17:51
this country has ever known years ago I
2:17:55
had it all I had it all I could have
2:17:57
been a pulitzer contender damn it I had
2:18:00
it all I had the award winning
2:18:01
journalism I had the interviews very
2:18:05
very very very disappointing I am NOT on
2:18:10
your side on this oh you think that she
2:18:12
means it differently no she means
2:18:15
exactly what she said and I don't have a
2:18:17
problem with that that you don't get to
2:18:19
that position and especially in the
2:18:21
network without having that kind of an
2:18:24
attitude which was I had the scoop is
2:18:26
very common in journalism and it and to
2:18:29
think it's not is is not I'm not gonna
2:18:31
say as naive but it's not right it's I
2:18:35
had the scoop they screwed me out of it
2:18:39
I wasn't gonna pull like what's-his-name
2:18:41
you know the Sinatra kid
2:18:44
Ronen that broke the story Ronan Farrow
2:18:48
Farrow he went and quit his comp quit
2:18:51
goes to another company and you found
2:18:53
somebody who take the story all the way
2:18:55
here's a little more of the idealist he
2:18:58
wasn't gonna put up with getting his
2:18:59
scoops buried so he went out and sold
2:19:02
that she doesn't have that didn't have
2:19:04
that opportunity she was too she's too
2:19:07
high up to do that she's that she's at
2:19:09
the high levels of the Dutchman oh she
2:19:11
is she's not a slouch know she's bigshot
2:19:14
and so she's worked about one thing and
2:19:17
one thing only she probably thinks about
2:19:20
what you were thinking about but her
2:19:22
real concern is that hey I'm I am here
2:19:26
for the money
2:19:27
all right and I got screwed out of a
2:19:29
scoop that could have gotten me an award
2:19:31
and more money you're thinking is
2:19:34
proving my point
2:19:35
I
2:19:35
she ate it no I'm not gonna say I'm not
2:19:37
proving your point is correct but I
2:19:39
think you're being adamant about being
2:19:41
worked about it or being nasty to hurt I
2:19:43
think is mistaken she this is what she
2:19:46
does and she does a great job of it I
2:19:47
think she's one of the best of these
2:19:49
interviewers out there and she could go
2:19:51
she'll be eventually be really big she's
2:19:54
kind of a I guess she's where she from
2:19:57
George or someplace you moved around the
2:19:59
country quite a bit I looked into her
2:20:02
background and but I've always liked her
2:20:04
stuff
2:20:05
well she's best she was the scoop scoop
2:20:10
scoop scoop is like a big deal damn it
2:20:13
well she made a statement after the fact
2:20:16
of course she was not let go or is not
2:20:19
pursuing interests outside of the the
2:20:21
company or wants to be with her family
2:20:23
no as a journalist as the Epstein story
2:20:25
continued to unfold last summer I was
2:20:27
caught in a private moment of
2:20:28
frustration I was upset that an
2:20:31
important interview had conducted with
2:20:34
Virginia Roberts didn't air because we
2:20:36
could not obtain sufficient
2:20:37
corroborating evidence to meet ABC's
2:20:40
editorial standards about her
2:20:42
allegations and this is what I thought
2:20:44
was interesting my comments about Prince
2:20:46
Andrew and her allegation that she had
2:20:48
seen Bill Clinton on Epstein's private
2:20:51
island were in reference to what
2:20:53
Virginia Roberts said in that interview
2:20:55
in 25 2015 I was referencing her
2:20:58
allegations someone made a phone call
2:21:00
someone got a nasty phone call not what
2:21:03
ABC News had verified through our
2:21:05
reporting the interview itself while I
2:21:07
was disappointed it didn't air didn't
2:21:09
meet our standards in the years since no
2:21:12
one ever told me or the team to stop
2:21:13
reporting on Jeffrey Epstein and we have
2:21:15
continued to aggressively pursue this
2:21:17
important story but wait the best one is
2:21:20
now ABC also released a statement
2:21:22
remember this was not good enough for
2:21:26
ABC's standards so they have a media we
2:21:30
see the memes that came out of that
2:21:32
concept so we go on so we have a meeting
2:21:34
what are we gonna do with this I mean we
2:21:37
got this real problem how do we bury
2:21:39
this shit what can we do oh I know hear
2:21:42
hear
2:21:42
write this down here comes a statement
2:21:44
statement at the time not all of our
2:21:48
report
2:21:49
our standards to air but we have never
2:21:52
stopped investigating the story ever
2:21:54
since we've had a team on this
2:21:56
investigation and substantial resources
2:21:58
dedicated to it let me think how I'm
2:22:02
gonna bury oh yeah I know what to do
2:22:03
here we go lessons this work has led to
2:22:08
a two-hour documentary in a six-part
2:22:10
podcast that will air in the new year
2:22:18
alright I got a boss no problem
2:22:21
there you go your important reporting
2:22:24
hey guess what we got two pieces of news
2:22:26
for you well you're gonna do the story
2:22:29
oh great it's gonna be a podcast oh how
2:22:34
do you think she feels now
2:22:36
well she well she probably feels after
2:22:40
that they put a gun to her head she
2:22:42
might as well be in North Korean with a
2:22:43
gun to her head
2:22:45
condemning America so she they put a gun
2:22:48
to her head at ABC and tell her to write
2:22:50
this well you know I what didn't mean
2:22:52
this I didn't mean that and I only
2:22:54
referenced Andrew cuz there's a name
2:22:55
that came to mind or whatever that thing
2:22:57
said it don't cry yes she has to be more
2:23:00
about that she will be she will be
2:23:02
shopping her talents no no I'm serious
2:23:06
yeah of course
2:23:09
she's gonna think to herself and she's
2:23:11
got a good gig at ABC she's got through
2:23:13
she's on GMA she's got her own little
2:23:15
show she's got a whole bunch of stuff
2:23:17
going on she they give her some plum
2:23:18
plum interviews and she's gonna be act
2:23:22
about having to make those comments
2:23:23
because this she was caught off caught
2:23:25
off guard by somebody somebody talking
2:23:31
to the audio guy obviously it's always
2:23:33
the guy who asked her out or wanted a
2:23:35
date or something like the guy that
2:23:45
could show up thinking like a control
2:23:47
room guy the guy that control him you
2:23:48
know I always you know maybe love-hate
2:23:51
sir and then who knows but this just
2:23:52
decided to pull this thing out of the
2:23:54
blue and drop it on the public good work
2:23:57
get doctor like getting caught you're
2:23:59
gonna you're gonna throw shade on me
2:24:00
girl okay watch this it's exactly how it
2:24:05
goes no I've never heard any stories
2:24:07
about her on the set she might be a not
2:24:10
likable because it makes she treats the
2:24:12
crew poorly well she's your beat now
2:24:14
since she said she might be dateable I
2:24:17
think that's a great one what do you
2:24:29
think of her she might be dateable
2:24:30
mm-hmm yes that's and that's how we talk
2:24:34
in the control room just so we're doing
2:24:35
the control room this is not that is the
2:24:40
control room talk right there I kid you
2:24:41
not all right this will take us into our
2:24:45
break this is good because it makes
2:24:46
sense
2:24:47
I guess Jack Dorsey's not going to do
2:24:49
anything
2:24:50
use anymore so that everyone's desperate
2:24:52
to get something about it something
2:24:54
about Twitter so PBS gets ahold of EV
2:24:58
Williams Eva's not quite trained you
2:25:01
know the way the have had yes I've had
2:25:05
maybe he's a billionaire I think he is
2:25:08
he's done two lucky shots he's the one
2:25:10
who started blogger blogger I got got
2:25:12
bought and then he sold that to Google
2:25:14
and then he started even long with four
2:25:17
other guys or five other guys they
2:25:18
started Twitter well that was o dó and
2:25:20
then it became Twitter what yes they've
2:25:25
had this idea and they've kind of caught
2:25:28
on there people try to compete with
2:25:30
nothing did pounce was a good example
2:25:32
and they never could and they somehow
2:25:35
they when they went public he walked
2:25:37
away it's like two billion dollars again
2:25:39
and loads but he saw he's always been
2:25:41
kind of a Jewish kind of a kind of a
2:25:45
prick in my opinion I didn't get that
2:25:48
impression yeah he might be known I got
2:25:50
it free cuz he was on silicon spin once
2:25:52
he might be dateable he might be
2:25:55
dateable he so he was asked about you
2:25:59
know how how it really works and you
2:26:03
know how the money's made he was also
2:26:04
pushing medium of course that's his
2:26:06
that's his his prized pet project medium
2:26:08
so he is kind of he's trying to explain
2:26:12
the difference we actually does a good
2:26:13
job of the advertising model versus the
2:26:19
subscription model and I thought it was
2:26:21
interesting particularly the advertising
2:26:23
part cuz it really just lays out what is
2:26:24
happening and why it's happening and why
2:26:26
social media is such a mess period that
2:26:29
is that advertising especially
2:26:32
advertising online is the selling of
2:26:35
attention almost all content on the
2:26:37
Internet is paid for by advertising and
2:26:39
the way these systems have evolved is
2:26:42
the the most attention for the least
2:26:45
dollars is what advertisers buy for the
2:26:47
most part and by that if you want to pay
2:26:51
for the creation of something with
2:26:52
advertising the formula becomes how
2:26:55
little can I spend to get the most
2:26:57
attention even I get clickbait you make
2:26:59
a cat standing on a piano yeah and you
2:27:01
make it it goes
2:27:02
- yelling fire in the theater tonight if
2:27:04
you got paid for yelling fire in the
2:27:05
theater people in there no consequences
2:27:08
you would do that that in many ways is
2:27:10
what the Internet has become and
2:27:12
algorithms and advertising are all
2:27:14
reinforcing this this system where
2:27:16
whatever gets the most attention wins
2:27:18
and as cheaply as you can create that
2:27:20
most attention
2:27:21
that's what rewarded and I assume the
2:27:23
flipside is that a subscription model
2:27:25
means you got to produce something of
2:27:27
value or people won't pay for it found a
2:27:29
value yeah the subscription model is if
2:27:31
we produce something good you pay for it
2:27:33
it has to be valuable enough to the
2:27:36
person receiving it to pay for it if
2:27:38
it's not they stop paying that's the the
2:27:40
whole basis it's it's a much more direct
2:27:43
and it keeps us honest yeah thank you
2:27:46
for explaining our model almost
2:27:48
perfectly ev except we don't force
2:27:51
people to pay for something they don't
2:27:54
know if it's valuable yet well it's also
2:27:56
some
2:28:00
disingenuous nough cements about
2:28:03
advertising and medium medium really
2:28:06
relies on the writers paying his medium
2:28:11
that's the subscription because you can
2:28:13
get sent out a link to most medium
2:28:15
articles and you the link will worker
2:28:17
won't work like for example I have
2:28:19
something written on there and I noticed
2:28:20
I've never paid him a nickel and so if I
2:28:23
send a link out some people who are part
2:28:26
of the system can see the thing other
2:28:28
people just won't even get it but if
2:28:31
you're like a full time all-in writer
2:28:33
and you're paying you're paying money to
2:28:36
beyond there your stuff can be
2:28:38
distributed pretty widely so what you're
2:28:40
so it's you're saying that the medium is
2:28:42
kind of a vanity press is a it's a
2:28:45
big-time vanity press probably one step
2:28:49
up from and then this guy is the kind of
2:28:51
guy that can analyze this stuff cuz he's
2:28:53
got he thinks in social media terms this
2:28:56
is one step up from HuffPost which is
2:29:00
largely a vanity press but you don't
2:29:02
have to pay to be in HuffPost
2:29:03
you just have to have a name or
2:29:05
something like that and you can use
2:29:07
submit articles the Huff Post and then
2:29:08
they run them as though that you're a
2:29:10
writer there when you're not have most
2:29:13
people that you find their byline and
2:29:15
Huff Post they they're writing for free
2:29:18
yes embarrasses yes I'm well and medium
2:29:21
is like the next generation of that
2:29:24
you're not only writing for free you're
2:29:26
paying to be published and distributed
2:29:29
so this is nonsense what he said about I
2:29:32
mean he's what he said about advertisers
2:29:33
is correct but that's not the way his
2:29:35
system works I don't like his system I
2:29:37
don't want to pay no we've to be paid
2:29:44
you're supposed to be paid yeah paid
2:29:46
this is supposed to be paid this is like
2:29:48
the same thing this all started I
2:29:49
believe maybe I can blame it all on Ted
2:29:51
and TEDx he's bone has to go yeah okay
2:29:55
and use there's some great horror
2:29:58
stories about people who gave a speech
2:30:00
there and then they besides not getting
2:30:02
paid you have to do you have to show up
2:30:04
at cocktail parties and you got to do
2:30:06
all these things for the benefit of the
2:30:08
people who pay five thousand bucks or
2:30:10
whatever it is to sit through your
2:30:12
speech
2:30:13
a few other species that are can't be
2:30:15
more than 18 minutes long and you're
2:30:17
gonna be coached on how to deliver them
2:30:19
and you have to wear this headset and
2:30:21
you have to do this and that and you're
2:30:22
not getting paid this is ludicrous this
2:30:25
is the second time you brought up the
2:30:27
Ted thing are you yeah this is something
2:30:29
you want to talk about are you mad about
2:30:30
how I brought it up as a as a no but
2:30:32
this is I didn't bring it up the first
2:30:34
time you did no you said Ted a TED talk
2:30:39
Oh doc I brought it up but he was sure I
2:30:43
was triggered
2:30:44
yeah why are you triggers you have a
2:30:47
problem because this one of these things
2:30:49
were somebody's making millions and
2:30:51
millions of dollars and people are
2:30:53
giving their time away to help the guy
2:30:57
make millions and they're not getting
2:30:59
paid a nickel it's not fair in this
2:31:01
earth so yes I agree and that's why we
2:31:04
came up with the value for value model
2:31:06
it's simple
2:31:07
did you get any value out of what we
2:31:10
were just telling you about the things
2:31:12
we explored the media we deconstructed
2:31:14
if you did translate that into a number
2:31:17
and send it to us by donation to know
2:31:21
again imagine all the people who could
2:31:23
do with us oh yeah
2:31:24
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2:31:31
I'm sure I'd feel a lot differently if
2:31:34
we were making millions and millions of
2:31:35
dollars we'd be like yeah that's great
2:31:38
I'll go on that any time I mean to go to
2:31:40
visit us he attend talk you're paying
2:31:43
more than anyone any single donor has
2:31:46
ever given this show and one shot $5,000
2:31:49
I think the most one time where you got
2:31:52
something like high threes ones yeah
2:31:57
it's a room full of people that paid
2:32:00
$5,000 yes it's uneven men they're
2:32:02
talking like a dancing monkey uh for
2:32:07
free it's just it's just beyond me this
2:32:12
is beyond me I just I'm I'm
2:32:13
flabbergasted this goes on but I even
2:32:15
admire Anderson for me pulling it off
2:32:19
yeah Chris yes of course the nice guy
2:32:22
I've met him say I had dinner with him
2:32:24
once there's the rub okay you had dinner
2:32:29
with him once and then something
2:32:31
something stuck no no I like the guy
2:32:33
it's just a model I never liked yeah
2:32:36
they never invited me so I never asked
2:32:39
me have you ever asked you axed
2:32:43
not that I know but you don't you had
2:32:46
ground about we know I have been asked
2:32:48
to do it a TEDx talk yeah right that's
2:32:52
gonna I haven't even gotten that request
2:32:55
so be a little more thankful starts us
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from the New Jersey music donation from
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this is the New Jersey meeting the
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accumulated funds from the Jersey meet
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up nice uh it's a small token of our
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appreciation in fact we have to figure
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with photo ITM Stephanie when and Gary
2:33:29
Jaron Carolina uh edita I think so Colin
2:33:35
and will yes I did see the report thank
2:33:38
you I did see the photo that was very
2:33:40
nice made to make sure you put it on no
2:33:41
agenda meetups calm so other people can
2:33:43
see it just a spot there you can put
2:33:45
your meetup report yeah yeah bike so
2:33:49
they can't find it but you can put it in
2:33:51
your you can edit it your your meetup
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and then add stuff to it I think
2:33:57
by count Craig of Georgia Craig Kutner
2:34:00
in Atlanta
2:34:00
69 60 and I would drop off quick on
2:34:03
today's show celebrating a birthday for
2:34:05
me because I can and so he's on the list
2:34:08
uh Chuck Schulz in Anniston Alabama 69
2:34:13
69 he needs an F cancer karma can we do
2:34:16
at the end sure can uh Jeffrey Sewell in
2:34:21
San Jose California whose newbie six
2:34:24
eight seven eight
2:34:26
give him a D douching I did yeah I would
2:34:28
take him in as a check and I think his
2:34:30
first one he's ever done go tawheed a
2:34:37
fifty two thirty
2:34:39
5432 michael gates 5280 edward posh in
2:34:44
omaha nebraska 51 51 another birthday
2:34:47
boy uh with a birthday present to
2:34:50
himself no lady butters lady butters in
2:34:54
Tiverton Rhode Island my dad would have
2:34:58
been 50 on eleven seven why don't we put
2:35:01
him on the list he's not I don't know my
2:35:04
dad would have been fifty on there will
2:35:05
be today and his honor this is for the
2:35:07
Dame drive towards the to kick ass
2:35:09
ladies at the Boston meet up and have a
2:35:12
meet up report in a moment karma
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requested for all the wicked awesome
2:35:16
people from that night including my
2:35:18
beloved sir knives lady butters so very
2:35:21
nice so do I put it on the list
2:35:24
dad butters yeah dad butters on on the
2:35:28
list and would have been butters would
2:35:33
have been fifty today that's nice nice
2:35:35
to celebrate him that that way Jason gay
2:35:38
and Nora northglenn Colorado the
2:35:42
following people are all fifty dollar
2:35:43
donors were that far already
2:35:45
he needs to be deduced he says I was
2:35:47
turned on to the show by my boy Stryker
2:35:50
that's a cool name it's a good day hey
2:35:54
everybody its Stryker gay I'll be with
2:35:59
great character name for all your
2:36:05
writers out there know this is a disc
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2:41:22
people here and they were like wow that
2:41:23
sounds really cool well you know we have
2:41:25
them in hot one too like really so yeah
2:41:27
and we got one coming up the end of the
2:41:29
month come yes well that's what I always
2:41:33
tell everybody here's the No Agenda
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Boston meetup report in the morning pod
2:41:37
fathers this is the report for November
2:41:38
2nd 2019 leading up to the event itself
2:41:41
were several last-minute changes which
2:41:44
thankfully in the end totally were
2:41:46
totally worked out from one place that
2:41:48
closed seasonally the last-minute change
2:41:50
to Union Oyster House changed one last
2:41:52
time two Hennessy's but it was on the
2:41:54
same street long story short both Union
2:41:57
oyster and Hennessey's are separated by
2:41:58
this one store on each side of this
2:42:01
building between them are two red 33s
2:42:03
okay picture attached so huge thanks to
2:42:06
Hennessey's for being such gracious
2:42:07
last-minute hosts they treated us great
2:42:09
we had Stick 'less heads violation of
2:42:12
protocol we had sticklers heads of Adam
2:42:15
and John nametags a guestbook to sign
2:42:17
and a collections envelope where we
2:42:19
collected 700 plus dollars from the
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Boston Meetup overall we had 22
2:42:24
participants for our inaugural Meetup
2:42:26
while 22 that's a great showing
2:42:29
that's a good one already we have a
2:42:32
follow-up meeting coming soon keep an
2:42:34
eye out for that and what Bill burr
2:42:35
calls the nicest outer suburbs of Boston
2:42:37
at Castle Island brewery in Norwood in
2:42:39
the coming months everyone had a great
2:42:41
time and got along super well and we
2:42:43
were all looking forward to meet up
2:42:44
meeting up again and have even more of a
2:42:46
fellow producers and no agenda royalty
2:42:48
join us we had so many great people it's
2:42:50
impossible to say how great everyone was
2:42:52
and how well everyone got along and how
2:42:54
interesting each person there turns out
2:42:56
to be
2:42:56
indeed sir Nathan Lee reporting on the
2:42:59
no agenda Boston meetup November 2nd
2:43:01
Hennessey's thank you very much for that
2:43:02
and thank you everybody for for a great
2:43:06
time yeah I'd love hearing that that's
2:43:08
really fantastic just a couple of the
2:43:11
meetups on the horizon for today this
2:43:14
evening 7 o'clock in Myrtle Beach at the
2:43:16
sneaky Beagle Orange County this will be
2:43:19
the second meet up there the Revenge of
2:43:20
the meet up that's at the boss cat
2:43:23
kitchen and libation starts at 6 o'clock
2:43:25
tomorrow the Nelson BC meet up 7 o'clock
2:43:29
at torchlight Brewing Saturday North
2:43:31
Charleston South Carolina at raka
2:43:33
Belleek also on Saturday Auburn
2:43:36
California the Sierra Foothills that'll
2:43:38
be at 2 p.m.
2:43:40
try though Charleston's 1 p.m. and the
2:43:41
Sierra Foothills is 2 p.m. that will be
2:43:44
a Moonraker brewing and Saturday as well
2:43:46
Southwest Ontario Canada Navia 7 o'clock
2:43:50
and that will be at the refined fool
2:43:53
Brewing Company and burgers from burger
2:43:55
rebellion that's a mouthful and of
2:43:58
course on Sunday we will tell you all
2:44:01
about the meet ups for the next week and
2:44:03
please go and visit no agenda meetups
2:44:07
comm find a meet-up near you if you
2:44:10
can't find one well lordy go start one
2:44:12
yourself administrative duties exactly
2:44:21
so I think we do need to mention the six
2:44:24
week cycle since it passed by its kind
2:44:27
on offers on six weeks anymore but
2:44:29
another disgusting sting from the FBI
2:44:33
now read the the affidavit and once
2:44:35
again you read this stuff and you know
2:44:38
this is one minute reports I'll play it
2:44:40
in a minute always the same boilerplate
2:44:43
boy the place like some some guy is
2:44:45
found online saying something radical
2:44:48
like it put name here
2:44:50
yeah put name here I want to kill Jews
2:44:52
okay that's when you send someone to
2:44:55
talk to him in my mind if someone cuz
2:44:58
they'd someone reported it
2:44:59
so one reported it and the guy you see
2:45:02
the guys picture he looks like he looks
2:45:03
you know like him he maybe not smart
2:45:09
yeah and when someone's posting I want
2:45:12
to kill Jews the obvious response is hey
2:45:15
let's go talk to this guy see what he's
2:45:16
doing yeah I want to blow him up let's
2:45:18
go talk to this guy no no no not if
2:45:20
you're the FBI hey I'm gonna play like
2:45:23
I'm a chick and I'm all into killing
2:45:25
Jews let's see if we can get this guy
2:45:28
crazy and then we'll give him some fake
2:45:30
bombs and then we'll arrest him because
2:45:32
that's much scarier now to a terror
2:45:34
arrest in Colorado the FBI taking a 27
2:45:38
year-old in the custody accusing him of
2:45:39
plotting to bomb a synagogue the FBI
2:45:42
saying he admitted planning the attack
2:45:44
as part of what he called quote a racial
2:45:47
holy war and good morning to you Robin
2:45:49
temple Emanuel is the second oldest
2:45:51
synagogue here in Colorado built in 1900
2:45:54
now at the center of a domestic
2:45:56
terrorism plot authorities say a
2:45:58
suspected white supremacist 27 year old
2:46:01
Richard Holt sir caught the attention of
2:46:03
the FBI after using multiple Facebook
2:46:05
accounts to spread his hatred of Jews
2:46:07
and his desire to blow up this synagogue
2:46:10
now on Friday undercover agents say they
2:46:12
provided the suspect with replica pipe
2:46:15
bombs and dynamite they were harmless
2:46:17
but the FBI says his intentions were
2:46:19
real Holt sir is now in custody charged
2:46:22
with a hate crime and could face 20
2:46:24
years in federal prison as for this
2:46:26
synagogue they say nowadays they have to
2:46:28
take security very seriously and they
2:46:30
are quite grateful that this was stopped
2:46:32
before it went too far John why are we
2:46:34
the only people that bring this up time
2:46:38
and time again that I mean what does the
2:46:40
FBI doing do they get more money do they
2:46:42
get a bonus if they collar someone at a
2:46:45
hate crime which they facilitated I
2:46:48
understand I just terrorism is only
2:46:53
recently become hate crimes because if
2:46:55
you can do a hate crime
2:46:57
based on a white supremacy hating white
2:47:01
supremacist unlike a white supremacist
2:47:04
like ben shapiro wizard you somehow he's
2:47:07
a white supremacist by the course of
2:47:10
course but but you have a you switched
2:47:16
over from Terrans doing the white
2:47:17
supremacist because white supremacist is
2:47:19
associative you think of Trump because
2:47:21
he's accused of being one and more he's
2:47:24
supported by them or people you know
2:47:26
that are white supremacist like Trump I
2:47:28
don't know but you want to do to make
2:47:30
that change in the FBI is involved in
2:47:32
getting rid of Trump part of the whole
2:47:35
so you think that's a part of it it's
2:47:36
just a little mind fuckery going on oh
2:47:38
yeah but I think it's unfair it's just
2:47:44
unfair what I'm sharing this is
2:47:46
ridiculous is gonna be it's either gonna
2:47:47
be you get there's gonna be something
2:47:50
it's gonna be some dumb dummy that's
2:47:52
it's just gonna be a dummy that they
2:47:54
said oh they're always dummies and they
2:47:57
get them take the egg come on
2:48:00
and instead of saying hey man you are
2:48:02
plotting to kill somebody we got to stop
2:48:04
this I mean you got to bring you in and
2:48:06
talk to you and you know and just talk
2:48:08
to you what the hell is going on no no
2:48:11
we got to get oh how we got him to get
2:48:13
the phony bombs
2:48:14
oh this will look great when we did the
2:48:16
press announcement it's disgusting you
2:48:19
scare people at the same time we could
2:48:21
just take care of this quietly get it
2:48:23
done the guy needs help obviously some
2:48:25
kind of help maybe needs to be taken off
2:48:27
the street you know there's rules about
2:48:30
threatening to I mean you can't just be
2:48:31
going around someone to kill people can
2:48:34
you know won't they take him off for
2:48:36
that yeah they can I think they can't
2:48:38
have it they don't they take it one step
2:48:39
further and set him up to be a worst
2:48:41
character and while we're on I you know
2:48:43
I'm wondering by the way this started so
2:48:45
this has been going on since our show
2:48:48
mm-hmm and I'm wondering if there's been
2:48:50
some study or something because I was
2:48:52
watching a dr. Phil is in they had with
2:48:56
yes yeah Mimi and I were watching a dr.
2:49:00
Phil for some reason it was on and he
2:49:02
was interesting because there's this
2:49:03
white kid who sound like a black kid and
2:49:05
he's 16 17 he's got five felonies in
2:49:09
there and he's a punk he's just
2:49:11
Punk and his mom lets him do everything
2:49:12
his dad wants to beat the crap out of
2:49:13
him but the mom runs the roost and feels
2:49:17
going and talking to this kid who's got
2:49:19
the head cocked and he says I'm not
2:49:22
afraid of prison and I'm a tough kid and
2:49:24
all the rest of it and at some point you
2:49:27
at least me me and I agree that I don't
2:49:29
care what they can talk to themselves so
2:49:30
they're blue in the face this kid is
2:49:32
just bad news and he's gonna do what
2:49:35
he's gonna do and it's like there used
2:49:38
to be a TV show called crime story where
2:49:40
these guys made so much money in Chicago
2:49:43
they moved to Las Vegas and they could
2:49:45
start all these businesses start a
2:49:46
casino and they were all gonna be legit
2:49:48
but then they went right back into crime
2:49:50
because the one guy says the other why
2:49:52
do we do this why we wouldn't be legit
2:49:54
but we're doing this I guess it's just
2:49:56
because we're criminals okay so I think
2:50:01
maybe they just figured this guy's gonna
2:50:03
do something bad I mean I have to give
2:50:05
them the benefit of the doubt with these
2:50:07
people hmm
2:50:08
the guy's a loose cannon and he's gonna
2:50:10
do this anyway we might as well do it
2:50:12
under controlled circumstances and get
2:50:14
him off the street I'm done taking the
2:50:16
side of the FBI
2:50:17
yes very unpopular
2:50:20
oh I took it so we have Trump in a quid
2:50:26
pro quo and the media doesn't seem to be
2:50:28
interested but an actual quid pro quo
2:50:31
and I can prove it right here you know
2:50:33
it's you know he's didn't ask to make up
2:50:36
dirt on Joe Biden but it's a quid pro
2:50:38
quo and the quid was hey guys can you
2:50:44
stop can you reverse your gas pipelines
2:50:48
so you can take our liquid put liquid
2:50:51
natural gas and then pump it through
2:50:54
everyone else into Europe so that you
2:50:56
know you're not reliant upon Russian gas
2:50:59
can you guys do that if you do I'll put
2:51:02
you in the visa waiver program so Poland
2:51:05
is a country great people we gotta
2:51:08
polish Americans living in the United
2:51:10
States I've just signed I will soon be
2:51:14
signing and signed certain preliminary
2:51:16
applications we will be giving a full
2:51:19
visa waiver to Poland that means that
2:51:23
people from Poland can easily travel
2:51:25
there and people from here can easily go
2:51:28
back and forth they can each people from
2:51:31
the US people from Poland can very
2:51:33
easily go back and forth between the
2:51:36
United States and Poland so they've been
2:51:38
trying to get this for many many decades
2:51:41
and I got it for the Polish people in
2:51:45
honor of the Polish people in the United
2:51:47
States and had fallen so I'm very happy
2:51:49
with that yes there's your pro quo
2:51:54
well what are you gonna do no nothing
2:51:56
well I'm waiting for some peach
2:51:59
I'm waiting for the fallout I mean I you
2:52:02
know that the Jews in Congress are
2:52:04
unhappy with this move because they were
2:52:06
thwarted a decade world with you yeah
2:52:10
because they feel that the the the the
2:52:12
poles killed the Jews in the
2:52:13
concentration camps and there's there's
2:52:15
a lot of organized people who did not
2:52:17
want this to happen I haven't heard any
2:52:19
fallout yet I don't think there will be
2:52:22
hmm I think it's all a bluff I do have a
2:52:25
it's probably one of the clips I have
2:52:28
the where I got this I so from but since
2:52:29
you played Trump I'm gonna play this
2:52:31
this isoh possible and to show I so okay
2:52:35
let me grab that's great what was that
2:52:42
from his recent Mississippi or where was
2:52:44
that from no is the Kentucky speech no I
2:52:47
like it
2:52:47
where he actually lost out in fact they
2:52:49
have a rundown of all those things but
2:52:51
before we do that I'd like to play
2:52:53
something that's been lurking me because
2:52:57
it was like a forgotten part of the
2:53:00
Obama administration when Robert Gates
2:53:01
wrote his you know the ex Defense
2:53:04
Department guy and I think spook
2:53:06
wrote his book we're in the book and
2:53:10
this was early on before they Baldy
2:53:12
candidacies we can it became apparent in
2:53:15
the book he says that Biden every
2:53:17
foreign policy decision by never made
2:53:19
and as a vice president was wrong
2:53:25
believe it yeah so apparently on Face
2:53:30
the Nation that woman brought gates on
2:53:34
to the show to grill them about this and
2:53:37
this is quite a kind of an interesting
2:53:39
clip reading your memoir before we sat
2:53:42
down to talk and you said in your memoir
2:53:44
Joe Biden is impossible not to like
2:53:48
quote he's a man of integrity incapable
2:53:51
of hiding what he really thinks one of
2:53:53
those rare people you know you can turn
2:53:55
to for help in a personal crisis still I
2:53:58
think he's been wrong on nearly every
2:54:01
major foreign policy and national
2:54:02
security issue over the past four
2:54:05
decades what he'd be an effective
2:54:08
commander in chief I I don't know I
2:54:11
don't know I I think I stand by that
2:54:14
statement he and I agreed on some key
2:54:17
issues and the Obama administration we
2:54:19
disagreed significantly on Afghanistan
2:54:22
and some other issues I think that the
2:54:26
vice president has some issues with the
2:54:28
military so how he would get along with
2:54:30
the senior military and what that
2:54:33
relationship would be I just I think it
2:54:36
would depend on the personalities at the
2:54:37
time where was this where did he say
2:54:40
this just not Face the Nation okay
2:54:43
recent show yeah so he still won't he's
2:54:47
not on board why would why would he be
2:54:49
no no no no no no he's the stats deepest
2:54:53
that's where he is so let's play a
2:54:57
couple of the impeachment sorry I'm
2:54:59
sorry I thought you would want to end
2:55:01
after three hours you want to keep going
2:55:02
oh you're we done but it's three hours
2:55:05
we're and we still I don't want to if
2:55:11
you want it's a podcast no I don't want
2:55:14
to drag it out but I would like to at
2:55:16
least get this this well no you know
2:55:18
this can move with today's today today
2:55:22
so Sunday still fresh so this will still
2:55:25
be fresh you'll be fresh I believe so
2:55:28
I'm looking at these over and yes I see
2:55:30
nothing that needs to be run except for
2:55:34
the 13 year-old homicidal maniac clip me
2:55:36
no no let's do the search in your old
2:55:38
new way now I need a homicidal maniac to
2:55:40
end this show that's not a way to end
2:55:42
this is a perfect way to end this show
2:55:44
okay go okay
2:55:46
thirteen-year-old homicidal maniac we
2:55:48
turned out to that urgent hunt tonight
2:55:49
for a fugitive charged in two murders
2:55:51
and he's just 13 he escaped from a
2:55:54
holding room after a court appearance
2:55:55
getting away barefoot and in leg
2:55:57
restraints authorities tonight are now
2:55:59
warning the public and here's ABC's
2:56:00
Steve osunsami
2:56:02
in North Carolina authorities tonight
2:56:04
have helicopters in the air and police
2:56:06
on the ground all searching for the
2:56:08
fugitive 13 year old who for now they're
2:56:11
only identifying as Jericho w even
2:56:14
though he's a juvenile they're taking
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the unusual step of releasing his
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booking photo after he escaped from the
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custody of state law enforcement
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officers Tuesday while returning from
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juvenile court in Lumberton state
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officials say he was wearing leg
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restraints and no shoes when a guard
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opened a door and he ran police say he
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was being held on serious crimes accused
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of the fact we Marcus robbery was
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detained say what
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disguise in chin leggings and he's
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barefoot and he open the door he takes
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off in the fat guard couldn't chase him
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now sobbing death are you fat shaming
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the guard here this is guard oh no it
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may not even be fat maybe he's too thin
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he can't run I don't know just I find
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this to be ludicrous generalizing the
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guard population now and he ran a big
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forgiveness he held on serious crimes
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accused of two counts of first degree
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murder and robbery with a dangerous
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weapon they explained they have a high
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degree of concern for the safety of both
2:57:16
the juvenile and the public due to a
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prior history of assaulted and
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unpredictable behavior his family
2:57:23
members say they've struggled with the
2:57:24
boy for years and tonight or blaming
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authorities we don't know if he's going
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to return to us dead or alive the county
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spoke and they should have to pay for it
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police are now warning residents who
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live in the search area that they may
2:57:41
hear low-flying helicopters through this
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evening oh wow so the kids gone he sees
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Ferrell yeah with leggings and bare feet
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and he's on his way
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the this is housing another candidate
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for the dr. Phil show well I think it's
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just this a sign of things to come feral
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humans are in our future I'm pretty sure
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of that get used to him they still have
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chains
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that is our show for today extra long
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double the flavor and we love
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deconstructing for you we'll do it again
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on Sunday I will be back in the
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opportunity zone 33 looking forward to
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be back with the keeper I'm very lonely
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and she is too and coming to you from
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just off runway two-seven here at
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Schiphol Airport in the Gitmo nation
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lowlands also known as Amsterdam where
2:58:37
you cannot buy weed with a credit card
2:58:39
that's against the law in the morning
2:58:42
everybody I'm Adam curry what yeah first
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northern Silicon Valley being stunned by
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the new fact I'm John C Devorah it pays
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to listen all the way to the end of the
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show of people coming up next on our
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agenda stream comm we got hogs story 49
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enjoy that and we return on Sunday
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remember us at Dvorak org slash a and a
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and until then adios mofos secret agent
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Paul and Chris Wilson end of show mixes
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when this trend is long
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so what
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yourself
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shaming Jews
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there's a Starbucks hating on black guys
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they tried to have a meeting but had no
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intent to buy there's a Starbucks one of
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these but guys he tried to use a
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bathroom but they said he was tonight
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oh well they were asked to exit but they
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both possessed and so they got arrested
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adios mofo for at dot org slash and a
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