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1187: Predeceased

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

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November 3rd, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir Francis of SRQ, Earl of SW Florida, Peter Riedel, Melissa Fitzpatrick, Dude Named Ralph

Associate Executive Producers: DrDr, John Lipps, Matthew Anderson

Cover Art by Larry Dane

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  • 0:00
    that's an important ma and Adam curry
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    Jhansi Dvorak media assassination
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    episode 11 87 this is no agenda in the
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    morning everybody Adam Curry and from
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    northern Silicon Valley where we're
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    throwing our support debate Oh
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    O'Rourke I'm John see dvorah mean you're
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    throwing your support he's gone he's
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    toast
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    eighty-six out of here you're out what
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    you know one of our producers did an
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    analysis of his expenditures and it
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    appears that he stayed in the race even
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    with his 3% polling numbers whatever
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    that means we don't have to trust him
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    for an extra couple of months in order
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    to pay everybody including himself
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    it takes a salary for this job of his oh
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    yeah oh yeah yes he paying himself do we
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    know I think it was $400,000 well now
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    it's not exactly clear from the FEC
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    filings but that's the extrapolation one
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    of our producers made and it would make
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    sense you know payroll payroll taxes
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    there's tons of stuff that that was paid
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    over the past couple of months but not
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    many other expenditures but there also
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    some consultants it's what you do I mean
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    when you're losing you want to keep
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    everybody cut here you're important
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    people kind of going I guess
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    yeah why not yeah so I mean I do have I
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    do have a couple of clips I'm not ready
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    for that I got too much that's a debate
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    Oh we'll get to bait oh he's toast okay
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    well I but don't forget don't let me
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    miss beta I will remember you know I'm
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    disappointed that he dropped out yes
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    long trip yes I took a trip Saturday
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    afternoon left Austin via Houston to
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    Amsterdam the Netherlands Austin
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    Amsterdam flight oh that doesn't start
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    until May
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    that's the KLM direct flight four
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    flights a week but it's not there yet so
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    you know you still have to transfer
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    somewhere and I'm here at the invitation
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    of a Dutch TV show as they're
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    celebrating 100 years of radio in the
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    nether
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    I thought you say 100 years of the NFL
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    yeah yes yeah they love the NBA here too
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    so which is really nice although they
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    flew me on United and United's idea of
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    premium economy is row of 32 at the
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    exits and it even says on my ticket
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    window there's no window I love the very
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    few seats but there are always a couple
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    that have no window it was nice and you
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    know to have the exit row because the
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    seats did actually recline but it was
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    not Economy Plus was economy no window
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    is what it was but this is interesting
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    you just sleep not very much very hard
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    to sleep nights no no I got into the I
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    stay at the I like staying at the
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    airport hotels I've learned through many
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    many years of traveling and I think
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    probably influenced by you a good idea
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    especially the Amsterdam Airport because
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    they got everything here
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    you need you need some shampoo no
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    problem you need a battery you know
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    hearing a batter no problem you need a
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    recliner to share you know in fact yes
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    at the Amsterdam Airport you can buy
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    furniture too people come if you will
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    come here to shop on the on the the land
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    side not the air side obviously but
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    check this out
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    ten years ago I went to Houston
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    to get my Global Entry slash pre-check
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    and I know it was 10 years ago because
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    as I was filling out my known traveler
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    number on my itinerary I noticed that it
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    expired in September it's been ten years
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    since I did the the interview and they
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    did my fingerprints and took my picture
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    and I think I paid four hundred dollars
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    at the time I don't know if it cost that
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    anymore
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    more or less
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    and I still got PreCheck
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    even though it's expired so I am very
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    excited for the No Agenda test when I
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    arrived back in Austin I will go
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    straight to the Global Entry kiosk and
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    see if it accepts me for I have a hunch
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    seeing as I got pre-check I have a hunch
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    that the you know when you when you come
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    to the customs area you can that if you
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    have kiosks for everybody now but you
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    have the Global Entry which is a
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    separate line it's you know just it's
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    kiosks for the privileged few who have
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    the Global Entry they may not be much
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    can I guess what you're gonna say yeah
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    go ahead
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    they don't update the database that's
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    what I'm thinking and it may even be by
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    design that someone said hey you know so
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    we got this kiosk here the same kiosk is
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    over there but this is supposed to no
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    only have people in Global Entry but you
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    know we we swap out all its we gotta use
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    it for maintenance we got to put a drive
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    into that one I gotta fix that one so
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    it's all jumbled up what much work slap
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    a sticker on it say Global Entry so I
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    can't wait to see if it accepts me upon
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    my return and then of course it does we
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    will need another producer who has never
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    had any Global Entry - just go ahead and
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    go straight to the Global Entry kiosk
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    think of the amount of time this could
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    save our producers yes and nothing but
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    travel tips on the show yes Travel Tips
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    the reason I like the hotel at the
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    airport not necessarily all the time but
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    but like in Paris it's inconvenient but
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    it's great especially it's like I'll
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    check into that hotel today or a couple
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    days before the flight out because
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    you're getting back to the airport
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    nowadays is always risky and if you're
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    at the airport when you wake up cost
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    beautiful especially for that 8:00 a.m.
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    flight you just roll down the escalators
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    6 a.m. flight yeah no matter yeah it's
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    it's really good and it's quiet because
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    everything's so soundproof and
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    especially Amsterdam if you're on one
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    side of this city and you need to go to
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    the other side it will take just as long
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    as
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    am going back to your hotel at the
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    airport the airport's very accessible in
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    in most cases it's pretty well
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    calculated you know it's always 30
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    minutes from the from wherever you need
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    to be always in fact this we stated we
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    stayed at the airport hotel on your
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    wedding in Austin in Austin which which
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    hotel in Austin I can't really there's
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    two of them at the airport and I can't
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    for the life of me remember which one
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    the one we stated I think was probably
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    not the one the stadium was had an
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    easier entrance but it was closer to
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    your house than it would be if I stayed
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    in Austin it's it's the airport is eight
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    minutes from our house still were able
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    to show up an hour and a half late that
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    was fantastic I don't know how you do it
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    I was misinformed yes anyway it's been
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    fantastic to be I did sleep a couple
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    hours and then started you know started
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    to prep and set up the studio and
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    everything no three and a half hours
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    sleep was fine but so nice to see
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    Deutsche Welle france24 Sky TV ITV BBC
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    the Dutch knew it's so diverse compared
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    to what we have in the United States
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    it's fantastic not it's all bull crap
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    but it's still fantastic to get a
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    something different you know actual you
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    know variety of news stories and because
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    it's Sunday a lot of these stories are
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    repeats so I was able to get a couple of
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    them online since I don't have any gear
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    to to Jack into the TV system and record
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    and I need to play this these three
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    clips up front because this is so no
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    agenda and so so Europian at the same
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    time because there is no freedom of
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    speech it's all lies it's even though
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    they have all these great news channels
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    it's propaganda and the Guardian
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    and this was an interview that I caught
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    The Guardian has made changes to their
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    style guide when it comes to climate
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    change and Simba and I think it's
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    important for us to I'm sorry important
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    for us to play this because it really
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    embodies everything that we point out
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    and have been pointing out for 12 years
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    with a little twist because the style
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    guide is not just for the written word
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    it's also for the photo journalists and
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    they are changing stuff over at the
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    Guardian yeah well it was really
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    prompted in the first instance by the
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    fact that the Guardian felt we needed to
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    change our language around the way we
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    were talking about these stories and it
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    seemed that our environmental
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    journalists were reporting a much more
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    kind of serious level of tone from
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    scientists so we discussed that what we
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    were kind of dealing with really was not
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    just climate change but actually a kind
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    of a catastrophic crisis so what we
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    realized was it was no longer
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    appropriate to have quite kind of benign
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    or passive images that went with this
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    kind of serious change in tone so you
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    know kind of historically we had perhaps
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    used pictures of polar bears on melting
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    icebergs etc and you know that the
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    picture of the polar bear feels like
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    something that's quite remote and
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    doesn't necessarily affect you know the
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    human being reading the story at home
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    and so what kind of images did you feel
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    would be I would have a bigger effect if
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    you would use okay well it really is
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    about human engagement and so the
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    effects of the climate change and the
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    climate crisis on on human beings became
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    a more sort of appropriate way of
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    illustrating these stories so it is
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    about the kind of the direct effect on
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    human beings so what we what we started
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    to show in that case was you know kind
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    of people who were sort of suffering
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    from the effects of desperate pollution
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    or the detriment of people who did lock
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    their homes in
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    wild forest and and and it just kind of
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    gives the you know the illustration are
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    much more of an immediate effect and
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    it's much more it's much more active I
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    would say I find this so fascinating
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    that this woman is she's the earthing
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    editor-at-large that she actually feels
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    that you have a story about climate
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    change and then you put a random picture
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    of people suffering from wildfires and
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    that's journalism that's what she's
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    calling it that's not journalism
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    photojournalism is here's a village that
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    get bombed showed the village that got
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    bombed
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    no talk about a cup of coffee my man
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    well wait until you hear the changes in
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    language so you want them to have more
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    of an emotional impact indeed yes yes I
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    mean getting the journalism let's get an
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    emotional impact emotional tone right is
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    absolutely critical how does this
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    compare to or how does this complement
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    what you what you've changed in the
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    style guide of the Guardian so the the
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    the language that we're using is is much
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    more active I would say and again you
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    know it's it's um it's less benign it's
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    less passive the phrase climate change
  • 12:44
    is quite passive compared to a
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    catastrophe for Humanity or a crisis we
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    also changed the phrase global warming
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    again which is sounds quite cozy to
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    global heating which is a bit more sort
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    of severe and sincere so it did feel
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    that to kind of use pictures of you know
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    very appealing creatures was not
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    entirely appropriate with this kind of
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    change in tone sounds more like
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    editorial to me than journalism it may
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    just be me
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    I maybe insist on which there's a joke
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    about this some I don't know decades ago
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    cuz there was a couple of magazines who
  • 13:27
    would talk about droughts and they'd
  • 13:29
    always have the cattle skull exactly
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    like you always have to have a shot of a
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    single tennis shoe next to a match now
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    surprisingly and this I think is kind of
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    a European thing the interviewer
  • 13:51
    actually said hey isn't this propaganda
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    I was floored well as well intentioned
  • 13:57
    as this might be at what point does this
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    cross from cross the line from
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    journalism to propaganda counter I think
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    is probably quite an extreme an extreme
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    accusation I guess I guess because of
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    using using emotional images in order to
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    provoke a certain effect would be how
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    propaganda would work with the
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    you want to say advocacy what what point
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    do you cross the line away from
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    journalism to to advocacy propaganda or
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    whatever word you might want to use well
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    I think what we have to do is stay
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    really close to what the science is
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    telling us and how our journalists are
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    interpreting that and if we do that then
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    we are being kind of accurate and
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    appropriate in the in the images that we
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    select what we need to do is kind of be
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    accurate in you know and sincere about
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    the the tone of say of the journalism so
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    when you use catastrophe for Humanity
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    instead of climate change you feel that
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    that is being more accurate as opposed
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    to being sensationalized I think
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    honestly that our origin is here do you
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    believe that this is a catastrophe and
  • 15:07
    this is why we've changed the language
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    and it's also been described as a
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    climate crisis by the United Nations
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    secretary-general so it's becoming a
  • 15:18
    kind of an accepted theme but again it
  • 15:23
    is based on you know the science that's
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    you know their origin and lasar
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    interpreting John as a journalist it
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    does a journalist interpret science is
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    that how a journalist reports period she
  • 15:37
    said interpret multiple times in that I
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    know she said interpret a lot I mean
  • 15:42
    there's no what she's talking about I
  • 15:43
    mean maybe the new maybe the new style
  • 15:46
    is that way as possible things have
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    changed it's now it's I don't know well
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    know what she's talking about personally
  • 15:53
    I know that she said do believe instead
  • 15:55
    of believe yeah well there's some
  • 15:57
    element there of security yeah it's but
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    it's important it's important that we
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    were an important it's important that
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    that we realize this I mean I am
  • 16:09
    susceptible to it all the time you don't
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    really think about now what's that image
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    on that website that I'm reading this
  • 16:14
    bullcrap story but those images they
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    speak a thousand words it's you know
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    it's the Gurgel way
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    well that was the most disgusting clip
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    you could possibly come up with I'm not
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    I'm not even gonna consider for a clip
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    of the day cuz it's so depressing I'm
  • 16:30
    sorry that's what's going on that's why
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    people need their No Agenda show I think
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    which I well yes that is an element
  • 16:41
    that's for sure yeah so since we I
  • 16:44
    wanted to do my bait Oh clips yes I you
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    know I'm gonna sleep on trophy move on
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    because this will be funnier because
  • 16:52
    instead of playing instead of playing
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    the announcement that bado quit which I
  • 16:58
    think I have a couple of versions of
  • 16:59
    that but it's not important it's not
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    important let's just go let's just go to
  • 17:05
    Trump making the announcement for us
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    two-parter okay so this way now he's in
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    Tupelo Mississippi yes regaling the
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    crowd a massive crowd audience of course
  • 17:21
    this isn't in the face of the top
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    stories that you do talking about the
  • 17:26
    diversity of news over there top story
  • 17:28
    wherever you go candidate a nice as you
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    looked at Google News the top stories
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    always poll half of voters have already
  • 17:35
    decided against Trump in 2020
  • 17:37
    oh no I've seen that here I think they
  • 17:39
    have it at 51% here we've tipped it over
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    in the in the Europe's good
  • 17:45
    well here's Trump living it up in his
  • 17:47
    dying days as a president regaling the
  • 17:52
    crowd with stories of bado you hear they
  • 17:55
    debate oh did you hear better oh that
  • 17:59
    poor bastard poor pathetic guy he was
  • 18:02
    pathetic
  • 18:04
    remember the arms are flailing so
  • 18:07
    remember that you know he ran against
  • 18:12
    Ted Cruz Ted Cruz won he spent almost a
  • 18:16
    hundred million dollars and Ted Cruz and
  • 18:19
    I helped Ted and I we campaign together
  • 18:21
    and it was good but I used to watch him
  • 18:24
    then when he came on to the really big
  • 18:26
    stage this crazy stage I noticed he was
  • 18:29
    flailing with the arms and he was
  • 18:31
    standing on tables he was standing on
  • 18:33
    counter tops I said does he ever like
  • 18:36
    sand on the floor and speak but he's
  • 18:39
    waving his arms and going crazy and I
  • 18:41
    said what the hell is he doing what is
  • 18:43
    he on and you remember he made the
  • 18:46
    statement that he was born for this
  • 18:49
    anybody that says he was born for this
  • 18:52
    they're in trouble you know I used to
  • 18:55
    have guys come into my office
  • 18:57
    sir I'm the greatest salesman nobody can
  • 19:00
    see you know the truth is anybody that
  • 19:02
    says they're great salesmen usually
  • 19:04
    they're not a very good salesman that's
  • 19:06
    true
  • 19:06
    it's those sneaky ones in the back that
  • 19:09
    don't talk but you don't know about
  • 19:12
    they're the ones but bado was nasty
  • 19:16
    and he said that he was born for it like
  • 19:20
    he was born from heaven he came down and
  • 19:23
    if that's the case some really bad
  • 19:26
    things happen because he made a total
  • 19:28
    fool out of himself it was interesting
  • 19:31
    how many people took took exception to
  • 19:34
    it from calling Beto a bastard and and
  • 19:40
    I'm like did you because you know Trump
  • 19:42
    is he's I by coincidence I went back and
  • 19:45
    I saw Letterman interview from 2013 I
  • 19:51
    saw a Jay Leno interview from 98 and
  • 19:53
    Trump has always been I for an eye and I
  • 19:57
    think actually went pretty pretty easy
  • 19:59
    on bado cuz better called Trump a racist
  • 20:01
    you know over and over again it was over
  • 20:05
    white supremacists
  • 20:06
    I'm sure he threw in some KKK there so
  • 20:10
    yeah you know that's what you get and I
  • 20:12
    thought I thought it kind of came off
  • 20:14
    this humorous this
  • 20:16
    this is eclipse' from this they cut out
  • 20:18
    the part about the salesman and him
  • 20:20
    coming down from heaven and all the rest
  • 20:22
    I've noticed that this is right from
  • 20:23
    their speech I'd like so I'd like to add
  • 20:25
    something to the salesman I think you
  • 20:27
    agree with me that if someone is looking
  • 20:31
    for a sales job you always got to check
  • 20:33
    their shoes
  • 20:36
    great great salespeople wear brown shoes
  • 20:39
    always
  • 20:42
    that's a good point well yeah that's a
  • 20:44
    fact yeah they do
  • 20:45
    it's a fact well so let's listen to part
  • 20:48
    2 where he summarizes and gets gets not
  • 20:50
    here there's a shorter clip he came out
  • 20:52
    of Texas a very hot political property
  • 20:56
    and he went back as cold as you can be
  • 21:00
    so he was a nasty guy but he had a
  • 21:06
    couple of policies that don't work well
  • 21:08
    in the state of Texas right he was
  • 21:10
    against religion he was against you
  • 21:14
    having a gun
  • 21:19
    whoops and he was against oil so you
  • 21:23
    come from Texas
  • 21:24
    you don't like religion you don't like
  • 21:27
    oil and you don't have guns I don't know
  • 21:29
    that's not a good combination the state
  • 21:32
    of Texas that's not good in Mississippi
  • 21:36
    that I don't know is that could that go
  • 21:39
    in any way now he went back home to
  • 21:42
    Texas and hopefully we won't be hearing
  • 21:45
    about him for a long time and I think he
  • 21:50
    was unelectable after all the gun stuff
  • 21:52
    and that that just doesn't fly in the
  • 21:55
    United States I mean it's been tried
  • 21:57
    many times it just doesn't work it does
  • 22:00
    not work do you have anything on on
  • 22:03
    Elizabeth Warren because I have a
  • 22:05
    comment on on her electability at this
  • 22:07
    point do you have any don't have any
  • 22:09
    clips but I have a comment I don't think
  • 22:10
    I have any Warren clips for this show
  • 22:12
    well so she came out and she said all
  • 22:15
    right you've badgered me enough and by
  • 22:17
    the way it was mainly mainstream media I
  • 22:21
    saw a MSNBC kept badgering her and they
  • 22:24
    have their own reasons for that how are
  • 22:25
    you gonna pay for this because I guess
  • 22:27
    she got it she got it down to only 52
  • 22:29
    trillion over - over a ten-year period
  • 22:32
    which is you know about twice as much as
  • 22:36
    we actually bring in and in tax receipts
  • 22:38
    as though at the moment and you know
  • 22:41
    there's all this oh she's gonna do like
  • 22:43
    this and it'll be and we'll get this
  • 22:45
    from that and over here and the New York
  • 22:47
    Times is breaking it down but I just
  • 22:49
    want to ask two very simple questions
  • 22:50
    cuz we've looked at this before first of
  • 22:53
    all she said two things she has said
  • 22:57
    I'll I'll get I'll get it from the top
  • 23:00
    1% they'll be paying tax to the top 1%
  • 23:05
    and I guess that's based upon salary I'm
  • 23:10
    not quite sure no it has to be based on
  • 23:13
    wealth but I'm talking about what she's
  • 23:16
    saying okay she's not saying wealth
  • 23:19
    she's saying top 1% and that has to be
  • 23:22
    earners but that really varies I mean in
  • 23:25
    in in Kansas the top 1% salary is you
  • 23:31
    know starts at 370
  • 23:32
    five thousand dollars whereas in
  • 23:34
    Mississippi it's a hundred thousand
  • 23:36
    dollars less is that just for one person
  • 23:40
    or is that is it household income if
  • 23:43
    you're filing jointly you know that's
  • 23:45
    not explained but the one that gets me
  • 23:47
    every single time and this is why I kind
  • 23:49
    of brought it up because I remember us
  • 23:51
    researching this when anyone says I
  • 23:54
    won't raise taxes on the middle class I
  • 23:58
    say please define middle class we did
  • 24:02
    this with Obama there is no definition
  • 24:05
    of middle class there is no salary range
  • 24:07
    there's nothing that is set in stone as
  • 24:11
    an economic indicator of what is middle
  • 24:15
    class
  • 24:17
    do you remember we looked at that yeah
  • 24:20
    we did and it's a and I knew that but
  • 24:22
    the middle class has been his head
  • 24:23
    bracket creep but what is the middle
  • 24:25
    class mean to me the middle classes it's
  • 24:28
    pretty much everybody who's not living
  • 24:30
    on the street that's the way it's seen
  • 24:33
    there's no cut offs that there's no
  • 24:35
    number is it is it 35,000 is that the is
  • 24:40
    that the working poor is that where I
  • 24:42
    think that Obama kind of kind of defined
  • 24:45
    it as anyone making up to $250,000 but I
  • 24:50
    think we went through this bracket creep
  • 24:52
    discussion the last time we did this
  • 24:55
    explain it again well what happened well
  • 24:59
    there was a thing I ate it I should have
  • 25:01
    put it in the newsletters a a 1971 sign
  • 25:06
    of the cost of goods or a list of the
  • 25:08
    cost of goods were milk milk was like 25
  • 25:12
    cents and there's you could buy it with
  • 25:15
    McDonald's hamburgers for 15 cents
  • 25:17
    everything was about 1/10 than what it
  • 25:18
    is today and in 1971 you know your
  • 25:23
    average salary of the person making it
  • 25:25
    was $10,000 a year it was average and so
  • 25:29
    as we've gone since the 70s we had this
  • 25:33
    this huge issue with inflation most of
  • 25:38
    what the numbers if you look at the
  • 25:39
    numbers from the 70s or even go back
  • 25:43
    earlier where gasoline was 25 cents a
  • 25:45
    gallon everything kind of went up by a
  • 25:48
    factor of 10
  • 25:49
    but the brackets the tax brackets didn't
  • 25:52
    change so if you're making $10,000 a
  • 25:55
    year in paying taxes on $10,000 a year
  • 25:58
    at the old IRS bracket system you are
  • 26:02
    now making $100,000 a year and you are
  • 26:04
    paying now you're paying rich man's
  • 26:06
    taxes so you're being overtaxed and this
  • 26:08
    is one of the reasons that these tax
  • 26:10
    structures have changed so drastically
  • 26:12
    where they used to come at all the rich
  • 26:14
    people used to always pay 90% but their
  • 26:17
    debt type of rich is is mega rich today
  • 26:21
    and they're still paying a lot it made
  • 26:23
    the whole thing it's just all screwed up
  • 26:25
    because of inflation and the way the
  • 26:27
    system works and that's what's called
  • 26:29
    bracket creep where you're
  • 26:31
    still living the same exact standard of
  • 26:34
    living right
  • 26:35
    but you've crept into upper brackets in
  • 26:39
    your so far as income taxes concerned
  • 26:40
    and so you're actually losing out right
  • 26:43
    also your your burger is going to go up
  • 26:46
    in 50% and cost with the impossible meat
  • 26:49
    craze you know you pretty soon won't be
  • 26:52
    able to get a regular burger no the pew
  • 26:55
    from the Pew Research defines the middle
  • 26:58
    class as those earning between 2/3 and
  • 27:01
    double the median household income the
  • 27:03
    pew classification means the category of
  • 27:06
    middle income is made up of people
  • 27:08
    making somewhere between forty forty and
  • 27:11
    a half thousand and one hundred and
  • 27:13
    twenty two thousand I don't think that's
  • 27:17
    right why I think forty thousand is I
  • 27:22
    don't think your middle class at forty
  • 27:24
    thousand Mississippi well another good
  • 27:28
    point
  • 27:30
    it depends on where you are in Austin
  • 27:33
    40,000 is tough
  • 27:36
    well so it's also tough in New York and
  • 27:38
    San Francisco I know but it's awesome
  • 27:43
    hello there's no reason yeah well Austin
  • 27:45
    isn't there's an it is an outlier but
  • 27:48
    that's you know so how do you define the
  • 27:51
    middle-class you can do it by state but
  • 27:52
    by idiom did the Austin is different
  • 27:54
    from Houston Houston is different from
  • 27:57
    East Texas yeah I know but I don't know
  • 28:01
    why you're so preoccupied with this
  • 28:03
    because you can't just make a blanket
  • 28:04
    statement that I won't tax you if you're
  • 28:07
    middle-class if you don't know what
  • 28:08
    middle-class is you can you can make a
  • 28:11
    blanket statement you can make it but
  • 28:13
    when it comes down she's she's doing a
  • 28:15
    numbers game that's my point here's how
  • 28:17
    I'm gonna pay for it and she has all the
  • 28:19
    numbers except with the middle classes
  • 28:21
    who are you talking about now Elizabeth
  • 28:23
    Warren how she's going to double crap
  • 28:26
    artists of all the candidates I'm just
  • 28:28
    pointing out that are you stunned by
  • 28:30
    this no what I'm trying to say is that
  • 28:33
    everyone's on the New York Times and
  • 28:35
    Wall Street Journal everyone's all in
  • 28:37
    the numbers and we'll get this and we'll
  • 28:38
    lower that where's the the elephant
  • 28:41
    isn't in the room is the definition of
  • 28:43
    who she's going to raise taxes on that's
  • 28:45
    my point
  • 28:46
    climate crisis but I'm sure she has a
  • 28:48
    plan for that anyway I think she's
  • 28:50
    completely unelectable when you put a
  • 28:52
    fifty-two trillion dollar number on the
  • 28:55
    table you're not going to get elected
  • 28:58
    don't you think well Biden was on PBS
  • 29:05
    with Judy mm and I was hoping to get
  • 29:09
    something decent out of it there's a cut
  • 29:11
    there's they got one good clip I mean I
  • 29:13
    got four clips one of them's decent okay
  • 29:16
    but it's Biden going on and he's talking
  • 29:19
    about you know her about Warren's plan
  • 29:22
    and let's see if we can find it in here
  • 29:26
    let's go with the biting on PBS and I'm
  • 29:29
    sorry that this DS this is gonna be a
  • 29:31
    minute and 30 seconds 37 seconds that
  • 29:34
    you will never you never get back with a
  • 29:37
    phrase you always use yeah no it's
  • 29:39
    alright I'll tell you after we play it
  • 29:41
    let's start with impeachment this is an
  • 29:43
    historic week of the house vote you are
  • 29:46
    one of the few people who was around for
  • 29:48
    both a Nixon impeachment and the Clinton
  • 29:51
    impeachment you know the seriousness of
  • 29:54
    this so my question is do you believe
  • 29:56
    that the focus should narrowly be on
  • 29:59
    Ukraine and the conversation about you
  • 30:02
    investigating you or should it be
  • 30:04
    broader to include the Muller report
  • 30:07
    potential financial impropriety I think
  • 30:10
    it has to include at all look this is a
  • 30:12
    as you know the an impeachment is a
  • 30:15
    difficult thing for a country to go
  • 30:17
    through even the impeachment process
  • 30:19
    it's not like you look forward to that
  • 30:21
    but you know there are potential
  • 30:24
    significant violations of constitutional
  • 30:26
    responsibility and the house has no
  • 30:30
    choice but to move forward and I think
  • 30:31
    it has to look at all the things that
  • 30:33
    they said they're going to look at
  • 30:35
    because I said at the outset all the
  • 30:37
    things all the things yes I mean the
  • 30:40
    financial impropriety
  • 30:41
    you know the actions of well what
  • 30:45
    they've laid out I think they have an
  • 30:46
    obligation to do that under the
  • 30:47
    Constitution and it could be difficult
  • 30:50
    but I think they have no choice as the
  • 30:52
    Constitution requires it so that's
  • 30:55
    different from the house approach right
  • 30:56
    now they're saying narrowly Ukraine so
  • 30:59
    well clarification whatever they decide
  • 31:02
    to do is for them to decide to do but
  • 31:04
    there
  • 31:04
    other there are other areas that he has
  • 31:06
    stonewalled the administration of
  • 31:08
    stonewall including them all of
  • 31:09
    importand possible conflicts over
  • 31:12
    Florida their job is to do their take on
  • 31:15
    the Constitution responsibility my job
  • 31:17
    if I'm nominated to beat him
  • 31:19
    oh that's the minute 37 seconds of my
  • 31:21
    life we'll never get back again that's
  • 31:23
    what you're looking for but actually
  • 31:24
    there was it was it was actually pretty
  • 31:27
    good you know
  • 31:28
    well yes glad you thought so I looked at
  • 31:31
    the factor one of our producers put a
  • 31:34
    little cheat sheet together for me for
  • 31:36
    this resolution that they passed and it
  • 31:40
    now this may be exactly the same as when
  • 31:43
    Republicans were impeached or I mean
  • 31:45
    Democrats were in preached impeached I
  • 31:47
    don't know the people say it is I
  • 31:49
    haven't had the time to look at it but
  • 31:51
    in this process in this this this
  • 31:55
    resolution which is not law it's not a
  • 31:57
    bill it's just it was an agreement on
  • 31:59
    and it was an agreement because all the
  • 32:01
    Republicans voted against it so it was
  • 32:03
    you know completely partisan but here's
  • 32:06
    how it will and will not work the
  • 32:08
    executive branch as the president will
  • 32:10
    not be permitted to participate in the
  • 32:12
    open hearing his lawyers will not be
  • 32:15
    permitted to question witnesses in open
  • 32:17
    hearings the ranking member so that's
  • 32:20
    the on the Republican side thinks Nunez
  • 32:26
    yes he he will have subpoena power which
  • 32:30
    means he can force someone to come and
  • 32:31
    testify but that is subject to
  • 32:34
    pre-approval by Chairman Adam Schiff he
  • 32:38
    doesn't have right which means he
  • 32:39
    doesn't have subpoena power of course he
  • 32:41
    doesn't he'll only have it if if he
  • 32:43
    comes down if a shift says yes but
  • 32:45
    here's the one that caught my eye the
  • 32:48
    Chairman now B Schiff can allow
  • 32:50
    contracted legal staff to question
  • 32:53
    witnesses as part of the ninth part of
  • 32:55
    his 90 minutes of available questioning
  • 32:58
    so he'll bring in contracted counsel
  • 33:02
    from the lawfare Institute now these
  • 33:05
    guys we've talked about them before but
  • 33:08
    it's a long time ago I don't know like
  • 33:11
    two and a half years they're the ones
  • 33:13
    who have always been behind this legal
  • 33:15
    strategy
  • 33:17
    of with the Muller report and and I
  • 33:20
    think they're at it again here these are
  • 33:22
    very very tricky mofos this law fair
  • 33:26
    group which they knew they for over a
  • 33:29
    couple years I've been reading about the
  • 33:30
    law fair strategy but it's the law Fair
  • 33:32
    Institute and I think it's Kramer Levin
  • 33:35
    neft Alice and Frankel and there's also
  • 33:38
    Brookings Institute and this guy norm
  • 33:42
    Eisen who was former ethics counsel to
  • 33:44
    President Obama
  • 33:45
    so it's a very slick group of lawyers
  • 33:48
    who will be so forget these idiot
  • 33:52
    representatives they're going straight
  • 33:54
    to the shark lawyers who are going to be
  • 33:56
    be doing the examination that's a change
  • 33:59
    that's what they tried to do with them
  • 34:01
    with Kavanagh I think which kind of fell
  • 34:04
    flat the Republicans tried it and then I
  • 34:07
    bid turn into a stupidity match and we
  • 34:10
    had that that lawyer woman or the
  • 34:12
    prosecutor who asked the questions could
  • 34:14
    had to be sensitive yeah Begley well
  • 34:19
    that's why a lot of people are refusing
  • 34:20
    to go in and they don't have to yet
  • 34:23
    because it's not or they don't have to
  • 34:25
    or do the MS it's a bluff wait no wait
  • 34:28
    don't they so here's a question if it's
  • 34:31
    not an actual impeachment are the
  • 34:34
    subpoenas enforceable by law no not not
  • 34:37
    according to that's what I thought yeah
  • 34:39
    the Giuliani's and of the world so so
  • 34:43
    trustworthy that's where those other
  • 34:49
    guys great of course of course yes so
  • 34:54
    said all right let's do some more Joe I
  • 34:57
    can handle it I'm surprised all right
  • 35:01
    well let's go on with Joe now by the way
  • 35:03
    I will mention he says fact of the
  • 35:04
    matter is ezel but but mostly look look
  • 35:10
    look look and he's saying look so much I
  • 35:14
    mean I only caught a piece of this the
  • 35:16
    whole thing I didn't clip the whole
  • 35:17
    thing because you'd get sick of it after
  • 35:19
    a while look look look look so let's go
  • 35:23
    to this is a shorty this is a 17-second
  • 35:27
    could this is a but part to the the
  • 35:29
    phone call between the
  • 35:30
    president President Trump and the
  • 35:32
    president of Ukraine now that there are
  • 35:34
    White House aides saying that there were
  • 35:36
    there was material left out of the
  • 35:39
    transcript of that call do you believe
  • 35:41
    the president is involved in a cover-up
  • 35:44
    yes all right we got that on record yes
  • 35:50
    good all right
  • 35:52
    on two three look you have look somewhat
  • 35:55
    finest people in the administration
  • 36:01
    feeling they have to come forward and
  • 36:03
    say exactly what they heard and what
  • 36:05
    they knew the idea that someone would
  • 36:07
    invite a foreign power into our election
  • 36:12
    and in the process withhold apparently
  • 36:16
    the allegation from some within the
  • 36:19
    administration who heard the
  • 36:21
    conversations withhold vital aid
  • 36:24
    military aid voted for by the Congress
  • 36:27
    while Ukrainians are dying in the dom
  • 36:31
    boss that is the eastern ukraine in
  • 36:33
    order to take on russians who are there
  • 36:37
    still killing them killing these people
  • 36:39
    is just i it's one of the things that no
  • 36:45
    president that I'm aware of has ever
  • 36:46
    ever thought of doing yeah whatever I
  • 36:52
    saw this you know George Webb he does
  • 36:55
    those videos that if you don't follow
  • 36:57
    along you know you have to go back
  • 36:59
    thirteen hours to figure out what the
  • 37:01
    hell he's talking about
  • 37:02
    and he's really good but I just don't
  • 37:04
    have the time in my life to watch every
  • 37:07
    video he does every day but he's making
  • 37:10
    connections between this Alejo Nate VIN
  • 37:12
    Minh the decorated soldier and who has a
  • 37:18
    twin brother by the way who is in in
  • 37:21
    high finance and in fact so high that
  • 37:25
    his firm was has been fined over a
  • 37:30
    billion dollars for improper financial
  • 37:33
    transactions but the more I look at it
  • 37:36
    he
  • 37:37
    crane appears to be and I'm just taking
  • 37:39
    this this George Webb information in
  • 37:42
    with it you have to go look and I put it
  • 37:43
    in the show notes but yeah I mean you
  • 37:45
    really have to go back and focus and we
  • 37:48
    and this goes all the way back to Putin
  • 37:50
    coming in and fighting on the eastern
  • 37:54
    Ukraine front and then taking
  • 37:59
    repatriating a part of of Ukraine it
  • 38:04
    seems that all of the scams that we saw
  • 38:08
    in the Middle East and I mean all of
  • 38:10
    them we're talking Libya we're talking
  • 38:12
    Syria Afghanistan
  • 38:16
    probably even African regions as well
  • 38:20
    but that they were running they I will
  • 38:23
    say they and that would be mainly the
  • 38:25
    State Department they were running guns
  • 38:28
    for drugs most likely through Ukraine
  • 38:32
    and it's exactly like iran-contra and I
  • 38:36
    haven't I don't have a lot to base this
  • 38:37
    on other than them do what just what
  • 38:39
    I've put together of thinking about what
  • 38:40
    I'm hearing people say and it makes so
  • 38:43
    much sense it was so important when
  • 38:45
    Putin put one foot into Ukraine the
  • 38:48
    State Department went apeshit they went
  • 38:50
    in they put snipers in they killed
  • 38:52
    people they installed a whole new
  • 38:54
    government they did it I mean they they
  • 38:56
    named the people they Viki Newlands they
  • 39:00
    put the people in Joe Biden came over to
  • 39:02
    Midwife the deal was all you know the
  • 39:05
    Victoria Nuland phone call and the money
  • 39:10
    it seems or as George Webb would call
  • 39:12
    the ratlines
  • 39:13
    was it was coming for anyway they have
  • 39:16
    weapons going into all these different
  • 39:18
    places where we wanted strike we wanted
  • 39:21
    the Arab Spring we wanted shit to happen
  • 39:23
    we funded groups like in Syria with Isis
  • 39:27
    and in return drugs came back and maybe
  • 39:30
    that's part of the fentanyl crisis I
  • 39:32
    don't know but Ukraine for some reason
  • 39:35
    take it back to the crowds the origins
  • 39:37
    of CrowdStrike
  • 39:38
    what Trump was asking the new Ukrainian
  • 39:42
    president about with corruption
  • 39:45
    I think Ukraine is ground zero for a lot
  • 39:49
    of shenanigans
  • 39:52
    well I can see that but I think you're
  • 39:54
    old thesis which would have been oil
  • 39:56
    pipelines
  • 39:58
    well no but ultimately that's that's
  • 40:00
    what the result is why do you want the
  • 40:02
    strife for the oil and for the pipelines
  • 40:04
    more for the oil I'm saying before that
  • 40:06
    just to get this everything going and
  • 40:09
    Syria is the moat is in most recent
  • 40:12
    memory
  • 40:12
    we had to fund a group in there and that
  • 40:15
    turned into Isis but that was to to stop
  • 40:19
    the Iran pipeline and give preference
  • 40:22
    over the Qatari pipeline I mean this is
  • 40:25
    it it's all there and just seems like
  • 40:28
    everything flow through Ukraine you you
  • 40:31
    well it's a right butted up against yeah
  • 40:34
    it would be a major it's like a it's
  • 40:37
    like a choke point yes yeah now that's
  • 40:43
    going to finish off this indictment will
  • 40:48
    prove what I'm saying John by the way
  • 40:54
    before you play that clip mm-hmm I just
  • 40:56
    want to make an announcement
  • 40:57
    I want the fact checkers to jump all
  • 41:00
    over this because I know they won't they
  • 41:02
    would if it was Trump but they won't say
  • 41:04
    anything about the the bullcrap that
  • 41:07
    continues from Joe Biden look you have
  • 41:11
    some of the finest people design station
  • 41:18
    feeling they have to come forward and
  • 41:20
    say exactly what they heard and what
  • 41:22
    they knew the idea that someone would
  • 41:25
    invite a foreign power into our election
  • 41:29
    and in the process withhold apparently
  • 41:33
    act out the allegation from some within
  • 41:36
    the administration who heard the
  • 41:38
    conversations withhold vital aid
  • 41:41
    military aid voted for by the Congress
  • 41:44
    while Ukrainians are dying in the dom
  • 41:48
    boss that is the estream in the same
  • 41:50
    clip well I'm glad you figured it out
  • 41:53
    after 30 seconds I'm sorry well I I'm
  • 41:55
    just so happy to hear him say look I'm
  • 41:58
    sorry let's go to clip 4 by George
  • 42:00
    Washington what is that through the
  • 42:01
    future presidents if we have another
  • 42:03
    person like Trump
  • 42:05
    give a green light the one thing George
  • 42:07
    Washington in fact warned us about and
  • 42:10
    his farewell address was Publix fall
  • 42:14
    because of intervention from foreign
  • 42:17
    powers foreign powers in our electoral
  • 42:20
    process well he finally corrected
  • 42:22
    himself and said farewell address
  • 42:24
    instead of inaugural address
  • 42:30
    although yeah I'm trying to think what
  • 42:32
    he did discuss it never mentioned report
  • 42:35
    by the way republic washington ever said
  • 42:37
    republics fought we were like the only
  • 42:39
    republic really did have any any
  • 42:42
    importance at the time even in the fit
  • 42:48
    was it wasn't the fair where i have to
  • 42:49
    go back and no no no it was because I
  • 42:52
    remember very well there's only a couple
  • 42:53
    of shows ago he was talking about his
  • 42:55
    inaugural address and then you had me
  • 42:57
    put in the show notes his inaugural
  • 42:59
    address Washington's all right there's
  • 43:01
    no mention of it it may correct and now
  • 43:03
    he's farewell address he didn't put it
  • 43:05
    like that well no but it's it's popular
  • 43:10
    to say the founding fathers our founders
  • 43:14
    and they they put their lives on the
  • 43:17
    line for this constitution and then
  • 43:20
    inviting inviting a foreign government
  • 43:22
    what it will does anybody take this
  • 43:25
    seriously and the Democrats side yes
  • 43:27
    they do what didn't I listen to the Lib
  • 43:29
    Joe's somehow Ukraine really which is if
  • 43:33
    anything is a podunk country compared to
  • 43:36
    ever like in almost any Eastern European
  • 43:39
    country what are they gonna do they're
  • 43:41
    gonna come over here they're gonna set
  • 43:43
    up shop
  • 43:45
    okay let's why is everyone so upset
  • 43:48
    about this military aid which I think in
  • 43:51
    this case was just money it's not always
  • 43:53
    mentioned in the call at least of course
  • 43:55
    they could buy more stuff who will hold
  • 43:58
    on a second was it was it I haven't seen
  • 44:03
    the actual purchase order maybe it was
  • 44:05
    money that was owed to them for shit
  • 44:07
    they did for the elites in the State
  • 44:09
    Department
  • 44:10
    maybe that's why everyone's all pissed
  • 44:11
    off or crap we need that money basically
  • 44:14
    they can get their money so they could
  • 44:16
    yes this part of the system there was a
  • 44:19
    payoff and Trump was holding it up they
  • 44:21
    don't care about Ukraine they care about
  • 44:22
    themselves I have nothing to base this
  • 44:25
    on other than it sounds a hell of a lot
  • 44:28
    like fast and furious iran-contra we
  • 44:33
    have a history of this
  • 44:36
    we other way but by the way by the way
  • 44:39
    by the way so I just want to make sure I
  • 44:41
    did have a Trump ISO for the after I did
  • 44:44
    that thing on bado I want to check it
  • 44:46
    out see if it's used okay I will check
  • 44:48
    it out now
  • 44:48
    what is your done is good it's already
  • 44:53
    in the final slot can't go wrong with
  • 44:57
    that perfect I did pick up a Joe gaff
  • 45:01
    that's a shorty I take exception with
  • 45:03
    something else other than what he says
  • 45:05
    you may have seen this what Joe is
  • 45:07
    trying to tell you is that the the Paris
  • 45:10
    climate Accord is very important and we
  • 45:12
    should reenter that but what comes out
  • 45:27
    way from 1917 no no the 1973 the the
  • 45:32
    Peace Accord Vietnam I had a biting
  • 45:54
    gaffe that was he where he says he's in
  • 45:57
    Ohio and he's in Iowa we put the
  • 46:00
    promises it was the same sound problem
  • 46:02
    sound like he was in a bucket it's one
  • 46:05
    channel and this it's art one channel
  • 46:07
    and it's over modulated but either he's
  • 46:10
    got to back off the mic if someone's got
  • 46:12
    it I mean who is running that show some
  • 46:15
    drunk remember we had the video where a
  • 46:19
    chip-in appeal which was it sounded like
  • 46:21
    he was in the Home Depot bucket on an
  • 46:23
    iPhone shot in the corner somewhere this
  • 46:26
    is not a serious campaign apparently not
  • 46:29
    it's not it's not now where's Hillary
  • 46:35
    I'm getting a little tired now of
  • 46:37
    waiting uh-huh I don't think it's gonna
  • 46:40
    happen well uh she's only has a few days
  • 46:44
    left before she can't file for a couple
  • 46:47
    of these primaries and you I think you
  • 46:49
    said on show 1177 which is a gamer till
  • 46:54
    November 1st November 1st like a
  • 46:56
    prediction yeah you did give us a
  • 46:57
    November 1st day you're gonna hold on
  • 46:59
    until the 7th
  • 47:01
    yeah just she's she's gone into silent
  • 47:06
    running I mean it's like just in the sub
  • 47:09
    or something I mean what happened is she
  • 47:11
    had a faint net well she had the spell
  • 47:15
    got the vapors she's still doing the
  • 47:17
    round she was on Trevor Noah show The
  • 47:21
    Daily Show and Trevor Noah did everyone
  • 47:25
    quite a service I feel and I appreciated
  • 47:28
    what he did and I thought he was it was
  • 47:30
    very funny and good that he brought that
  • 47:32
    out Hilary I have to ask you a question
  • 47:34
    that is been plaguing me for a while how
  • 47:37
    did you kill Jeffrey Epstein but you
  • 47:47
    have all the power I really need to
  • 47:51
    understand how you do what you do
  • 47:53
    because you seem to be behind everything
  • 47:56
    nefarious and yet you do not use it to
  • 47:58
    become presidents well Trevor
  • 48:06
    by the way if you watch this interview
  • 48:09
    and you should watch it the lighting is
  • 48:12
    so bad for her you can see the surgery
  • 48:16
    and what she has from the the toll the
  • 48:20
    issues has those kind of puffy cheeks
  • 48:22
    that is all filler it's you can see the
  • 48:27
    incisions the filler goes from under
  • 48:29
    that puffy cheek all the way back to her
  • 48:31
    ear on both sides and you see you can
  • 48:35
    actually see the line where it's either
  • 48:38
    part incision or it's it's injected and
  • 48:41
    it's swollen and it looks red and the
  • 48:45
    lighting was not good for her but what
  • 48:47
    does it feel like being the boogeyman of
  • 48:50
    the right spot well it's it's a constant
  • 48:54
    surprise because the things they say and
  • 48:59
    now of course it's on steroids with
  • 49:01
    being online are so ridiculous beyond
  • 49:05
    any imagination that I could have and
  • 49:08
    yet they are so persistent in putting
  • 49:11
    forth these crazy ideas and theories
  • 49:14
    honestly I don't know what I ever did to
  • 49:17
    get them so upset but a lot of them live
  • 49:22
    to come up with these conspiracy
  • 49:26
    theories and you know I've gotten kind
  • 49:29
    of used to it it's been going on for a
  • 49:30
    number of years now many people saw this
  • 49:33
    clip and you probably didn't hear the
  • 49:35
    first part you just saw the little the
  • 49:37
    little meanie part which is funny and
  • 49:39
    then of course what goes out in
  • 49:41
    right-wing conservative circles is well
  • 49:44
    she laughed she laughed
  • 49:46
    of course the whole thing was a joke and
  • 49:48
    a set up but you never heard what what
  • 49:50
    Chelsea said as Chelsea said something
  • 49:53
    is she's sitting right next to her
  • 49:54
    usually she doesn't say anything but she
  • 49:56
    had her own little Clinton body count
  • 49:58
    story it's because it is effective like
  • 50:02
    I'll never forget reading an article
  • 50:03
    after the 2016 election listen to her
  • 50:06
    talk you're gonna love this I'll never
  • 50:09
    forgot never really miserable after the
  • 50:13
    2016 election where the reporter
  • 50:15
    interview
  • 50:16
    someone who had been an undecided voter
  • 50:18
    and he said you know he thought my mom
  • 50:20
    would won all three debates matter and
  • 50:34
    yet he just kept reading that she had
  • 50:37
    murdered more than 50 people and he said
  • 50:39
    somewhat nonchalantly like I don't think
  • 50:42
    that she's like constant erosion of of
  • 50:50
    truth and sanity uh-huh I think that's
  • 50:54
    very fair what the guy said dad I'm
  • 50:55
    about 50 but - yeah goodbye - and the
  • 51:00
    cool thing is now then this is
  • 51:02
    everywhere
  • 51:04
    the meme is loose you know for a while
  • 51:08
    Howard Stern he has a Gary Dell'Abate
  • 51:11
    his producer and it became in the 80s
  • 51:15
    and 90s it became a thing for people to
  • 51:18
    call in to television shows talk shows
  • 51:21
    radio shows and then somewhere you just
  • 51:24
    had to throw in Baba Booey and then it
  • 51:26
    was funny and then then Stern would play
  • 51:28
    it and so people would get onto all
  • 51:30
    these talk shows very serious questions
  • 51:32
    and then just started throwing Baba
  • 51:34
    Booey in and everyone get all pissed off
  • 51:36
    and hang up and you know well now this
  • 51:38
    is happening with Hillary this is waters
  • 51:41
    world on Fox and I think it's the
  • 51:44
    military guy with a military dog is that
  • 51:46
    to your left there and I'm sure he's
  • 51:48
    ready to go out on the next mission and
  • 51:50
    he can't wait so thank you and thank
  • 51:52
    nero for your service i appreciate it
  • 51:55
    absolutely if I could could I throw a
  • 51:57
    PSA out real quick real quick just the
  • 52:00
    the remarkable nature of these dogs and
  • 52:03
    them being highlighted in the news
  • 52:04
    creates a huge demand by people that
  • 52:07
    frankly shouldn't have them if if you
  • 52:09
    see the the coverage and you decide I
  • 52:11
    want one of these dogs either by a
  • 52:13
    finished trained you know fully trained
  • 52:16
    and finished dog from a professional now
  • 52:18
    or just just don't get one at all
  • 52:21
    Maddon Epstein didn't kill himself
  • 52:24
    okay thank you for that commentary all
  • 52:26
    right before I go
  • 52:32
    Epstein didn't kill himself you're just
  • 52:33
    gonna throw that in there it's great
  • 52:35
    yeah I think it's fair that's the thank
  • 52:37
    you welcome back America we're funny
  • 52:39
    again and I'm liking that I'm liking
  • 52:42
    that that's cute
  • 52:44
    yeah well the Hillary thing is
  • 52:46
    disconcerning and I will take a look at
  • 52:48
    that because lighting you know you
  • 52:51
    professional lighters can do anything
  • 52:54
    they want with you you have to it's like
  • 52:56
    one of the group it's one of the groups
  • 52:58
    of people in in broadcasting you have to
  • 53:01
    make friends with oh yeah lighting and
  • 53:03
    sound lighting a sound look like crap
  • 53:09
    Joe didn't talk to the sound guy didn't
  • 53:11
    make nice with him
  • 53:13
    I don't know it doesn't sound like he's
  • 53:15
    even got a sound guy mr. microphone mr.
  • 53:21
    microphone I got some RadioShack gear
  • 53:26
    out of business it's called the
  • 53:32
    realistic other brand Radio Shack's
  • 53:37
    other brand yet realistic they had to
  • 53:40
    brand they've got somebody in the chat
  • 53:42
    room will know yeah well maybe the
  • 53:43
    trolls will know yeah troll room sorry
  • 53:46
    yeah by the way okay go on
  • 53:50
    no go ahead I'll come back to Tandy
  • 53:53
    Tandy and then there was no there's no
  • 53:56
    Tandy was the leather company they're
  • 53:57
    not they owned it right but then but
  • 54:00
    they had another brand on their stereos
  • 54:05
    no I can't think uh okay well uh yeah
  • 54:08
    they did because they had some speakers
  • 54:10
    with this name on it like it was Optimus
  • 54:12
    or something along those lines worse
  • 54:14
    really i realistic was it no it was
  • 54:17
    there hi there hi you know that you know
  • 54:27
    that just going back to the impeachment
  • 54:28
    resolution Nancy Pelosi came out and it
  • 54:33
    bothered me and I couldn't I couldn't
  • 54:35
    quite figure it out and I looked it up
  • 54:37
    on the plane United does have Wi-Fi go
  • 54:39
    figure not all the planes
  • 54:42
    well the okay but Delta doesn't so they
  • 54:46
    don't have that so she came out and you
  • 54:49
    know she did her spiel like everybody
  • 54:51
    else did but they told you think on last
  • 54:54
    year she came out with an easel and then
  • 54:57
    the guy turned the board around and it
  • 54:58
    was an American flag and it bothered me
  • 55:01
    and I in it and I couldn't figure it out
  • 55:02
    and I went back and looked this thing I
  • 55:04
    mean I don't know if there's actual
  • 55:07
    rules but it was disgusting what she did
  • 55:10
    if you think about standing there I'm
  • 55:13
    all about the Constitution the rule of
  • 55:15
    law you know Viva America the flag had
  • 55:19
    15 stripes had a almost one to one ratio
  • 55:24
    instead of the approved 1 to 5 ratio you
  • 55:28
    should really take a look at this I mean
  • 55:30
    I don't it's you know it's a minor
  • 55:32
    nitpick but if you're gonna put a flag
  • 55:35
    next to you why not make it look like
  • 55:37
    the American flag it had a white border
  • 55:41
    at the top a white border at the bottom
  • 55:42
    which was the same height as all the
  • 55:44
    stripes it's supposed to have 13 stripes
  • 55:46
    but at 8 so it had 15 at least it looked
  • 55:49
    like it with one stripe above the stars
  • 55:51
    even and it was a one to one it wasn't
  • 55:54
    one to five huh let's did you stay and I
  • 55:59
    don't know if that's just a dumb mistake
  • 56:00
    because visually it's jar you know how
  • 56:02
    it's the flag has a certain look to it
  • 56:06
    and you're familiar with the with the
  • 56:08
    dimensions and it wasn't and why not
  • 56:11
    just use a flag
  • 56:13
    to be a printed thing it was strange I
  • 56:15
    know if there's some subliminal message
  • 56:18
    to it or not but I just wanted to say I
  • 56:21
    didn't like it it didn't so I want to
  • 56:23
    play this clip that says we're just
  • 56:25
    before we completely leave bite in
  • 56:27
    behind mmm so hunter Biden showed up
  • 56:32
    on GMA Good Morning America and they one
  • 56:37
    of the the women one of the women
  • 56:39
    they're the one that with the real with
  • 56:41
    the jaws uh I can't remember her name
  • 56:44
    she's good interviewer and she went and
  • 56:47
    interviewed him kind of in she did kind
  • 56:48
    of a guess it was a nasty interview she
  • 56:51
    was very skeptical I don't have the
  • 56:54
    whole interview I just have the part
  • 56:55
    where he where she interviews his wife
  • 57:00
    Mellisa calling a south african woman he
  • 57:03
    married his reason oh she's a hottie too
  • 57:06
    yes they what are you doing I don't
  • 57:13
    think so she's well I saw photogenic but
  • 57:20
    when you see her and listen to her and
  • 57:21
    especially she's not she's not telling
  • 57:24
    Jenna that's for sure and she's not a
  • 57:26
    hottie by any means and she is extremely
  • 57:28
    elite in the way she speaks and both her
  • 57:32
    and it was very noticeable both her and
  • 57:36
    Hunter Biden's teeth were so white phony
  • 57:40
    white they were blue you know where you
  • 57:45
    go beyond white pick up less ultraviolet
  • 57:50
    tone like that one time Ross on friends
  • 57:52
    yes we all know exactly what you're
  • 57:54
    talking about yeah it's like what
  • 57:57
    happened I'm sorry yeah play it play
  • 58:01
    things have nothing easy
  • 58:03
    externally the 33 year old filmmaker
  • 58:05
    from South Africa stepping into the
  • 58:07
    spotlight for the first time in this
  • 58:09
    exclusive interview
  • 58:11
    they've been harder than most people
  • 58:12
    could ever even imagine but internally
  • 58:14
    things have been amazing and it's only
  • 58:17
    tested our bond could just solidify how
  • 58:22
    strong the bond really is what is the
  • 58:25
    truth about hunter he's wonderful and
  • 58:28
    caring and kind and he very much cares
  • 58:32
    about his country
  • 58:35
    and just family yeah goes on and on like
  • 58:41
    this I honestly look into her tea she
  • 58:43
    talks to her teeth yeah I read about her
  • 58:47
    and about how they met and it sounded to
  • 58:49
    me and I'm just throwing it out
  • 58:51
    allegedly etc but it sounded kind of
  • 58:54
    like they were coke buddies kind of like
  • 58:57
    that's kind of how they met
  • 58:58
    well she well the interviewer from GMA
  • 59:02
    she did confront Hunter about this and
  • 59:05
    he really got worked fucked about her
  • 59:08
    and she stayed with it she stayed what
  • 59:10
    about the cocaine yeah well you don't
  • 59:13
    know she says you've been in rehab like
  • 59:15
    70 times then they come back and forth a
  • 59:20
    little bit it was quite good price
  • 59:23
    ecliptic but I was more interested in
  • 59:27
    this earnest woman a talk stir of teeth
  • 59:30
    and with this very elitist kind of thing
  • 59:34
    a bond and they're bonded but isn't she
  • 59:36
    like a TV producer or I mean documentary
  • 59:40
    and yeah documentarian exactly exactly
  • 59:43
    documentarian oh well I think the less
  • 59:48
    Hunter says the better off everybody is
  • 59:50
    probably I will say this is you can tell
  • 59:52
    it he's one of those charmers
  • 59:57
    okay and he's got the Joe Biden smile
  • 59:59
    yeah and he's a charmer he is we can
  • 1:00:01
    probably he's probably pretty good at
  • 1:00:04
    sales check the shoes make sure they're
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    brown you know we made some fun of
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    impartment of dropping the t's I got a a
  • 1:00:18
    note from an anonymous linguistics
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    professor from a well-known university
  • 1:00:24
    on the west coast who asked to be kept
  • 1:00:29
    anonymous
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    and now it was kind of interesting from
  • 1:00:33
    a linguistic jeez at a university has to
  • 1:00:35
    be anonymous yeah of course he does he
  • 1:00:38
    doesn't want to get in trouble I think
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    he's pretty young too he's only been
  • 1:00:41
    only had his PhD for a couple years but
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    he says that well he was he was trying
  • 1:00:49
    to give us a warning and he did start
  • 1:00:52
    right off by saying hey just so you know
  • 1:00:54
    he's not intended as accusations or
  • 1:00:56
    attacks but it has a background of a PhD
  • 1:00:59
    in linguistics I'd be happy to follow up
  • 1:01:01
    we did have we did have a back-and-forth
  • 1:01:02
    but he said that I'll actually I'll read
  • 1:01:05
    from it no agenda deals so much with
  • 1:01:09
    language I thought it would send a note
  • 1:01:11
    of caution regarding how certain types
  • 1:01:13
    of speech are ridiculed / highlighted on
  • 1:01:16
    the show oh yeah blanket what oh yeah
  • 1:01:22
    languages change and evolve inevitably
  • 1:01:25
    what dialect is correct standard or
  • 1:01:28
    prestigious is related to political
  • 1:01:30
    sociological factors and are not an
  • 1:01:32
    objective standard of correctness now
  • 1:01:35
    and I'm gonna pause here for a second
  • 1:01:36
    because I did go back and forth with him
  • 1:01:38
    he was he thought that the way I
  • 1:01:40
    responded that I was defending an attack
  • 1:01:43
    and I was pissed off which I wasn't
  • 1:01:44
    because he said right it's up front it's
  • 1:01:46
    not an attack but what I was concerned
  • 1:01:49
    about is here is a linguistics professor
  • 1:01:51
    who listens to no agenda who is stating
  • 1:01:55
    these things as fact and that's what
  • 1:01:57
    he's been taught and that's what he's
  • 1:01:58
    he's studied on so I just disagree with
  • 1:02:02
    everything he said he goes on the reason
  • 1:02:06
    I'm a bit concerned is that most of the
  • 1:02:08
    speech that is targeted for ridicule
  • 1:02:10
    is generally associated with female or
  • 1:02:14
    non-white speakers and of course he says
  • 1:02:18
    immediately I do not believe that you
  • 1:02:19
    are sexist or racist at least no more
  • 1:02:22
    than any of us are that pissed me off
  • 1:02:25
    most of these attitudes about language
  • 1:02:27
    are subconscious but still present and
  • 1:02:30
    he says stop don't stop to read but I
  • 1:02:33
    want to stop sure right away because for
  • 1:02:36
    example in today's show we have been
  • 1:02:38
    ridiculing someone who says look all the
  • 1:02:41
    time who is it
  • 1:02:43
    why you no no was that a female I made
  • 1:02:46
    this point to him and I'll tell you what
  • 1:02:48
    he came back with but I want to continue
  • 1:02:49
    because the learning what he's been
  • 1:02:52
    taught is in his original note he says I
  • 1:02:56
    don't think much of this humor will age
  • 1:02:58
    well in the next few years which by the
  • 1:03:00
    way is kind of insulting to say that
  • 1:03:04
    that's what you when you go back and say
  • 1:03:06
    well this tweet age drill yeah okay I
  • 1:03:11
    don't think much of this humor will age
  • 1:03:13
    Wellman next few years as people become
  • 1:03:15
    a bit more aware of the science in other
  • 1:03:19
    words not and I like this guy because he
  • 1:03:23
    we went back and forth I'm fine with him
  • 1:03:25
    I'm not angry at him I'm sad about what
  • 1:03:27
    he's been taught what he thinks his sigh
  • 1:03:29
    or what he's been told I don't know I'm
  • 1:03:30
    not a professor but it's according to
  • 1:03:32
    him in science I think that that type of
  • 1:03:35
    commentary might be alienating or
  • 1:03:37
    offending more people than you think or
  • 1:03:40
    at least I predict it will become more
  • 1:03:42
    salient in the near future making fun of
  • 1:03:45
    a non-native English speaker who is
  • 1:03:46
    Dutch is very different than making fun
  • 1:03:48
    of a non-white immigrant in the US or
  • 1:03:50
    elsewhere for the hypothetical yeah well
  • 1:03:53
    you know like I do the Dutch thing so I
  • 1:03:55
    know that but I don't see if one's not
  • 1:03:57
    offensive why why is one offensive
  • 1:04:00
    exactly like many of the topics you
  • 1:04:03
    discuss on the show oil media etc
  • 1:04:05
    language is a major tool of power
  • 1:04:08
    Internationa this this isn't this is
  • 1:04:10
    important like many of the topics you
  • 1:04:12
    discuss on the show language is a major
  • 1:04:15
    tool of power internationally and
  • 1:04:17
    English plays a role it is a completely
  • 1:04:21
    unequal playing ground linguistically
  • 1:04:24
    Lindt language is one of the last ways
  • 1:04:26
    people can get away with discrimination
  • 1:04:30
    in the real world without being called
  • 1:04:32
    out this I guarantee you what's gonna
  • 1:04:36
    happen next John speaking English is
  • 1:04:39
    racist it's coming and and it is part of
  • 1:04:44
    the patriarchy you speak English you
  • 1:04:46
    have an unfair advantage
  • 1:04:50
    while I think there is far far more than
  • 1:04:52
    enough evidence to discourage it out of
  • 1:04:54
    human kindness and empathy I think that
  • 1:04:56
    the direct societal repercussions are
  • 1:04:58
    coming
  • 1:05:01
    for example you got your prediction for
  • 1:05:04
    examples of specific linguistic features
  • 1:05:07
    that are discussed on occasion on No
  • 1:05:09
    Agenda our vocal fry and tea dropping
  • 1:05:12
    while not exclusively a female feature
  • 1:05:15
    vocal fry is associated with younger
  • 1:05:18
    female speakers no the first time we
  • 1:05:21
    played it was the Berkeley Hummer
  • 1:05:25
    and we as we called it the Berkeley
  • 1:05:27
    Hummer Jill Abramson who by far is young
  • 1:05:30
    right she is not young how old is Jill
  • 1:05:33
    she's in her 60s yeah so that's where
  • 1:05:36
    seventies and I think we we said that
  • 1:05:41
    this is more of a milieu issue that
  • 1:05:43
    anyway I'll continue yes we do Billie by
  • 1:05:46
    the way you should stop right there
  • 1:05:48
    and remind people that that's what we're
  • 1:05:51
    dealing with here is milieu yes not any
  • 1:05:55
    sort of social economic anything its
  • 1:05:58
    milieu you have a bunch of people
  • 1:06:00
    together and they all vocal fry' in the
  • 1:06:03
    up talk and they have that screwy use or
  • 1:06:06
    go weird Cadence's like everybody in the
  • 1:06:09
    Obama administration we noticed the case
  • 1:06:10
    and everybody in the administration had
  • 1:06:13
    it was a dengue bangbang kind of a sound
  • 1:06:15
    or the one you just pointed out with
  • 1:06:17
    Chelsea these are all millou's that
  • 1:06:20
    we're dealing with which apparently the
  • 1:06:21
    linguistic Department doesn't give a
  • 1:06:22
    shit about and it's the same with like
  • 1:06:24
    Trump and Johnson dropping sentences the
  • 1:06:28
    non sequiturs it's also milieu of
  • 1:06:32
    nutjobs in their own way and we make fun
  • 1:06:34
    of that too so again on one hand yes too
  • 1:06:40
    many listeners it can sound annoying I
  • 1:06:42
    personally I think it's funny but there
  • 1:06:45
    are also social political and power
  • 1:06:47
    issues related he does a lot of /i
  • 1:06:49
    should have read every single - I don't
  • 1:06:51
    know if this is a university thing but
  • 1:06:55
    mail you yes exactly
  • 1:06:58
    I'll read the slashes because he uses
  • 1:07:01
    that all the time as if and maybe I
  • 1:07:03
    should choose I don't know if he's if
  • 1:07:05
    you're linguistics professor shouldn't
  • 1:07:06
    you use the language again on one hand
  • 1:07:10
    yes too many listeners it can sound
  • 1:07:11
    annoying but there are also social /
  • 1:07:13
    political / power issues related to /
  • 1:07:16
    driving / underlying the change
  • 1:07:20
    asking ourselves why is that feature
  • 1:07:23
    annoying but the other one isn't is a
  • 1:07:25
    worthwhile exercise I find it all
  • 1:07:28
    annoying
  • 1:07:28
    similarly with tea dropping it is simply
  • 1:07:31
    an ongoing change and not in correct
  • 1:07:33
    speech if you better stop
  • 1:07:38
    we have when we first started commenting
  • 1:07:41
    on the tea dropping important Putin is
  • 1:07:44
    the first person that really caught our
  • 1:07:46
    attention now the woman did that quit
  • 1:07:48
    because she hated by the way word for
  • 1:07:50
    shouldn't we all try to pronounce people
  • 1:07:53
    we try to pronounce people's names in
  • 1:07:55
    their native pronunciation isn't that
  • 1:07:58
    the idea I've never heard a Russian say
  • 1:08:00
    pour pool no so especially with names
  • 1:08:06
    it's just that is incorrect but okay I
  • 1:08:10
    digress by the way so I'm watching Ted
  • 1:08:13
    okay I would like let me get back to
  • 1:08:15
    where where was I going I was headed to
  • 1:08:16
    the Dro yes dropping the t's yeah very
  • 1:08:19
    early on when we started to drop in the
  • 1:08:21
    t's situation and we we try to catch it
  • 1:08:25
    or we can't cuz it's funny Mountain I'm
  • 1:08:28
    gonna go through the top of the mountain
  • 1:08:30
    because it makes you sound like a moron
  • 1:08:32
    but we got another comment from a
  • 1:08:36
    different guy who was like I don't know
  • 1:08:37
    if his linguistics or what but he said
  • 1:08:39
    the same exact thing so this is being
  • 1:08:41
    taught someplace that this is a
  • 1:08:44
    progression that somehow dropping the T
  • 1:08:47
    this we were told this but over two
  • 1:08:49
    years ago when I first got when
  • 1:08:51
    what's-her-name wheeler or whatever her
  • 1:08:52
    name was quit it wasn't we there's that
  • 1:08:54
    other you quit the RT show yeah I think
  • 1:08:56
    it was we were you ng and it was oh no
  • 1:09:02
    you're just you're just making fun of
  • 1:09:03
    somebody as it's Han going it's ongoing
  • 1:09:06
    people are all gonna be dropping the t's
  • 1:09:08
    in the future there's some there is
  • 1:09:10
    something being taught in the
  • 1:09:11
    universities and I believe that dropping
  • 1:09:13
    the T is actually code it's like this
  • 1:09:15
    unknown unbeknownst code you are you are
  • 1:09:19
    putting yourself into a pursuer you're
  • 1:09:21
    categorizing yourself
  • 1:09:23
    well what's interested why why is it
  • 1:09:26
    like we had in the last oh why is summit
  • 1:09:29
    it's a vocal coach dropping her T's
  • 1:09:32
    because a vocal coach and that's what he
  • 1:09:34
    was responding to he was responding to
  • 1:09:36
    here on Thursday show you played a clip
  • 1:09:38
    of a voice coach and were concerned
  • 1:09:40
    because they were not speaking properly
  • 1:09:42
    you were probably thinking of a speech
  • 1:09:44
    therapist as a voice coach generally
  • 1:09:46
    helps people with the quality of their
  • 1:09:48
    voice
  • 1:09:49
    not the content
  • 1:09:51
    well here's here's what I would like to
  • 1:09:53
    say what women he said I think it might
  • 1:09:57
    be good to stop and ask why something
  • 1:09:59
    sounds weird and if it is actually
  • 1:10:01
    annoying for dialects slash pragmatic
  • 1:10:04
    reasons examples repetitive um x'
  • 1:10:07
    hedging etc yeah we harp on that all the
  • 1:10:09
    time in fact we're the hardest on
  • 1:10:11
    ourselves about speech about stupid
  • 1:10:13
    things we say but or smacking our we're
  • 1:10:18
    saying
  • 1:10:20
    no yes but here's here's the thing
  • 1:10:24
    why are is it okay and does he not even
  • 1:10:27
    make mention and again I have no problem
  • 1:10:29
    with the guy I'm happy he's a producer
  • 1:10:31
    and he's hitting people in the mouth
  • 1:10:32
    this is why he's saying I'm having
  • 1:10:33
    trouble because people are pushing back
  • 1:10:34
    they hear how you make fun of this of
  • 1:10:36
    them obviously and then they don't want
  • 1:10:38
    to listen anymore but he's saying it's
  • 1:10:40
    not incorrect speech and it's it's a
  • 1:10:44
    speech changes and language changes but
  • 1:10:48
    are we not allowed to push back I mean
  • 1:10:51
    if there's if changes are afoot and if
  • 1:10:54
    things happen and and and language of
  • 1:10:56
    course changes it's that's documented
  • 1:10:59
    all the time but that doesn't mean you
  • 1:11:00
    have to go okay I accept the way you say
  • 1:11:02
    it why can't we just push bags and I say
  • 1:11:05
    it this way why why is it always someone
  • 1:11:08
    else who's changing it that has to be
  • 1:11:10
    right and ahead
  • 1:11:13
    anyway Adri what why is someone changing
  • 1:11:17
    it like saying important that's an
  • 1:11:20
    important MA and what why are we
  • 1:11:25
    supposed to okay where we're gonna start
  • 1:11:27
    saying it that way too so we can sound
  • 1:11:29
    really stupid you know it's like I got
  • 1:11:33
    over the ax thing and that's mainly
  • 1:11:35
    because of Mo yeah most has ax I wanted
  • 1:11:39
    we had we had the definitive clip on
  • 1:11:42
    this where it's actually it's it's
  • 1:11:43
    correct dick in during Dickens Iran or
  • 1:11:47
    North Chaucer or I think it was Chaucer
  • 1:11:49
    it was okay to use that term that that
  • 1:11:52
    that usage that doesn't mean you have to
  • 1:11:55
    like it
  • 1:11:56
    no but I'm over it you know and if and
  • 1:11:59
    if my friend well I don't care one way
  • 1:12:01
    or the other but but if somebody on
  • 1:12:03
    television this is where where that
  • 1:12:05
    comes from
  • 1:12:06
    when ya Miche else Endor who is on
  • 1:12:11
    network PBS newshour a plum job that
  • 1:12:16
    many a black person would love to have
  • 1:12:18
    when she says axe instead of ask unless
  • 1:12:23
    she's a Syrian and some sort of a
  • 1:12:26
    student of the language I take offense
  • 1:12:28
    to it
  • 1:12:29
    and that and you should be able to and
  • 1:12:31
    you should be able to make fun of it but
  • 1:12:33
    that's not allowed anyway from all this
  • 1:12:36
    and from my exchange with the professor
  • 1:12:38
    and again I'm I'm not angry I just
  • 1:12:41
    disagree and I'm surprised that this is
  • 1:12:44
    his thinking because that's what he's
  • 1:12:46
    been taught at am I really surprised no
  • 1:12:48
    but I came to a realization we are too
  • 1:12:52
    literal and this has a reason for the
  • 1:12:56
    past five but I would give it 10 years
  • 1:13:00
    human communication this also explains
  • 1:13:02
    the success of podcasts like ours
  • 1:13:04
    human communication has been relegated
  • 1:13:07
    or degraded to text only we what's a
  • 1:13:13
    poor text our friends our family we we
  • 1:13:17
    make our opinions known in well it used
  • 1:13:21
    to be a hundred and forty now two
  • 1:13:22
    hundred and eighty characters you have
  • 1:13:25
    no idea
  • 1:13:26
    what the context is of what someone's
  • 1:13:29
    saying I can say well that was a piece
  • 1:13:32
    of shit or wow that was a bit yet it's
  • 1:13:35
    two different ways that's why we had to
  • 1:13:36
    invent emojis so people could put some
  • 1:13:39
    emotion we are we have no idea what we
  • 1:13:42
    mean anymore and in fact I assert that
  • 1:13:45
    when you read something your state of
  • 1:13:48
    mind is going to change that into the
  • 1:13:50
    tone of voice that you're reading into
  • 1:13:52
    it and it could be completely different
  • 1:13:54
    for somebody else and that's why he
  • 1:13:57
    misinterpreted your first go-around you
  • 1:13:59
    said yes you're not offended I have to
  • 1:14:05
    eat mochi is when emojis first started I
  • 1:14:07
    would give a little background from the
  • 1:14:09
    1980s the they were originally they were
  • 1:14:12
    emoticon motifs ons right and emoticons
  • 1:14:15
    were and people would use them they
  • 1:14:18
    would write something and then they
  • 1:14:19
    would put an emoticon because the tone
  • 1:14:22
    was never part with new unless you're a
  • 1:14:25
    professional novelist who has to really
  • 1:14:30
    write a lot to get the tone in there so
  • 1:14:32
    you really understand what they're
  • 1:14:34
    thinking and how they're saying yet but
  • 1:14:36
    just in one or two sentences you can't
  • 1:14:38
    do it I don't care how good of a writer
  • 1:14:39
    you are you have to use it you have to
  • 1:14:41
    use emoticons even though there's a lot
  • 1:14:43
    of people during that emoticon or oh
  • 1:14:45
    they use the emoticons you can't do that
  • 1:14:48
    it's horrible stupid you should be able
  • 1:14:50
    to say what you mean without using
  • 1:14:52
    emoticons no you can't that was the
  • 1:14:55
    point and to this day it's a problem
  • 1:14:58
    most people and most people aren't
  • 1:15:00
    professional writers to begin with but
  • 1:15:02
    by a lot
  • 1:15:04
    well almost impossible and even
  • 1:15:06
    professional writers use it because you
  • 1:15:08
    have to it do ye what you can't I'm just
  • 1:15:11
    kidding here you don't see all this crap
  • 1:15:14
    out because we've lost the art of
  • 1:15:16
    writing and writing to a degree where
  • 1:15:20
    you can actually explain what you're
  • 1:15:22
    feeling that has much because if you
  • 1:15:24
    remember when you used to write you'd
  • 1:15:26
    have it in there in the handwriting and
  • 1:15:28
    it would also be lengthy that's the
  • 1:15:31
    difference but not not yeah of course we
  • 1:15:34
    got compressed by Twitter we and and we
  • 1:15:38
    got crutches like
  • 1:15:40
    emotionless email predated Twitter and
  • 1:15:43
    email became the problem because email
  • 1:15:45
    is very always terse and are you making
  • 1:15:49
    my point for me
  • 1:15:50
    in the workplace you do have context the
  • 1:15:53
    work when workplace emails take place
  • 1:15:56
    you have some context as what you're
  • 1:15:58
    communicating with your colleagues and
  • 1:16:00
    it's not just email it's slack it's
  • 1:16:02
    asana it's all the things everybody's
  • 1:16:04
    using but outside of that we've totally
  • 1:16:07
    lost the ability to interpret and
  • 1:16:09
    communicate which is why I think when
  • 1:16:12
    people hear two individuals discussing
  • 1:16:15
    something on a podcast it's very nice to
  • 1:16:17
    listen to because people don't have that
  • 1:16:19
    anymore in their lives they don't talk
  • 1:16:22
    anymore with friends and family it's all
  • 1:16:24
    app this app that check my graham butter
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    butter butter butter bean butter boo and
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    it's destructive
  • 1:16:33
    timecode and with that I'd like to thank
  • 1:16:38
    you for your courage and say in the
  • 1:16:39
    morning to you and the man who put the C
  • 1:16:40
    in context ja reg well in the morning to
  • 1:16:45
    you mr. Adam curry I'm John C Dvorak oh
  • 1:16:50
    I'm sorry and in the morning to boots on
  • 1:16:52
    the ground feet in the air subs in the
  • 1:16:53
    water dames the nights out there in the
  • 1:16:56
    morning to the trolls in the trollee you
  • 1:16:57
    like that trolls didn't shit yeah they
  • 1:16:59
    like that a lot
  • 1:17:00
    in the morning to the trolls in the
  • 1:17:02
    troll room that is no agenda serene calm
  • 1:17:05
    24 hours a day 20 said 24 24 24 seven
  • 1:17:10
    days a week there's always something
  • 1:17:12
    going on at No Agenda stream calm and
  • 1:17:14
    it's fun to go in there with the trolls
  • 1:17:16
    and troll away at whoever's live it's
  • 1:17:18
    the most fun because we got a chatroom
  • 1:17:20
    there because I'll just go and just hang
  • 1:17:22
    out with people and talking it's a good
  • 1:17:24
    place to be no agenda stream calm and I
  • 1:17:28
    also would like to thank the artists
  • 1:17:32
    that we had for episode 11 86 1186
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    episodes we came up with a title
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    Baghdady
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    oh yeah this was our Jennifer Buchanan
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    coming soon on Netflix from the No
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    Agenda animated Studios he saw she did
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    and did you see the Baghdady
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    video she did yeah I've seen them all
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    that's fantastic
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    the Baghdady one was quite good it's
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    very good and now thank you people are
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    sending me or at least posting on
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    Twitter good pieces from previous shows
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    with time codes and episode numbers and
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    I am astounded how anyone can find any
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    of this stuff or how they know it's
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    beyond me I don't know what I did
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    in the last show let alone that someone
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    and or make people have patience but I
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    think we're going to come up with enough
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    material for a damn good pilot
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    know for sure for our exit strategy
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    it would be an exit strategy because you
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    can't quit the show ever
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    oh you're right strategy when it goes
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    into syndication and reruns it's a
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    money-making strategy
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    oh well it's I guess it's not an exit
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    strategy damn it you're right well we
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    can be pretty damn topical I'm amazed at
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    the speed at which she gets stuff done
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    that's fantastic
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    it's just it's I'm blown away well we
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    have to I'm blown away by some of our
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    producers an executive producer
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    associate executive producer 1187
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    okay let's thank them and I'm gonna
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    thank them starting with Sir Francis of
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    SRQ the Earl Earl of Southwest Florida
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    it's not Arcadia yes 792 bucks
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    whoo and when it closes little he knows
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    a little window that pops up the Skype
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    window the shitty sky behind oh yeah and
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    you like click it and goes away then it
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    shows up again it comes back I know it's
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    like white like bad Mexican lunch it's
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    just a yam gents ablated Congrats on 12
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    years of superb media deconstruction I
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    believe oh stop I'm sorry I needed to
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    thank the artist I just a great piece of
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    work I didn't say it was comic strip
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    blogger you know that would be a problem
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    all right thank you sure it wasn't csb
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    his competitor Thank You comic strip