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1148: Twitter Rattling

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 50m
June 20th, 2019
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Executive Producers: Sir Therblig, Colin Preston

Associate Executive Producers: Dame Sheila the Lady of Lisboa, Sir Otaku - Baron of North East Texas and the Red River Valley, Michael Riniker

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

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Start of Show
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AC's Travel Update
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3:46
HTTP Error 451 - Unavailable For Legal Reasons
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6:52
Wine in Tube
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9:31
UK's Next Prime Minister
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12:33
Scottish National Party's MP Ian Blackford Calls Boris Johnson Racist in the House of Commons
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16:30
France 24: 'Female EU Commission President 'Long Overdue', Says Margrethe Vestager'
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20:59
Angela Merkel Shaking Visibly During German National Anthem at Ceremony
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22:38
MH17 Investigation Team Identified 4 Russian Suspects
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26:08
Iran Shoots Down US Drone
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29:35
UN Nuclear Watchdog Says Iran Has Increased Uranium Enrichment
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32:35
Deplatforming
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36:31
Cannes Lions International Festival of Creativity 2019
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40:52
Global Alliance for Responsible Media
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42:42
The Verge: 'Inside The Traumatic Life of a Facebook Moderator'
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47:35
Ending Support for Internet Censorship Act
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48:47
AC's Gab Predicition
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51:53
Apple CEO Tim Cook's Stanford Commencement Address
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54:17
Breitbart: 'Apple Bans Gab from App Development After Company Makes Antitrust Case to DOJ'
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58:50
Credits
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1:22:57
Queens District Attorney Race Contestant Tiffany Cabán
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1:30:13
Slavery Reparations
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1:44:48
Trump Announces 2020 Reelection Campaign
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1:51:16
2020 Elections
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1:56:11
United Nations Report Finds Mohammed bin Salman Should Be Investigated Over Jamal Khashoggi's Murder
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2:03:43
Donations
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2:13:27
Birthdays, Meetups & Title Changes
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2:17:37
NoAgendaSocial.com
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2:18:44
Facebook Launches Stablecoin Cryptocurrency 'Libra'
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2:29:05
JCD's Department of Social Security Spam Call
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2:29:58
UK Bans Harmful Gender Stereotypes in Advertisements
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2:33:13
Trump Suggests Iran Mistakenly Shot Down US Drone
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2:34:04
US Defense Secretary Patrick Shanahan Resigns Over Domestic Violence Allegations
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2:44:43
End of Show
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    yes thanks for the info on Tom Cruise I
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    feel so up to date now up to speed you
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    know I still hear that ground loop would
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    you like a ground loop I can send one
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    over to you send me I want a
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    sugar-coated sugar-coated ground loop
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    alright hey Here I am John in the
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    Algarve in the south of Portugal the the
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    southernmost tippy tip yeah beautiful
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    area yeah beautiful and then the day
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    that we have beautiful weather is the
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    day we do the show Brazil in some of
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    these other countries they don't even
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    start eating dinner till midnight yeah
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    but it would have been nice to catch a
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    little more Sun we had two days
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    obviously we got here Monday afternoon
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    so it was beautiful Monday afternoons we
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    have to make for the low donations while
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    you're on the road I'm leading up to
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    that why do you always blow my punchline
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    it's like I'm getting all the way Monday
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    we arrive Monday from from where were we
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    you're in Ireland yes Northern Ireland
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    that's right Northern Ireland and do we
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    we flew down here with the easyJet's
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    which was interesting because it was
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    already filled with the rowdy Brits was
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    there a soccer game going on
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    no man it's just you know how the Brits
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    they like to go to other places outside
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    of their own country and get really
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    drunk and obnoxious well they do that in
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    their own country too for mics yeah
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    they're a little extra extra bad when
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    they come to to the mainland in fact
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    it's like you it's like your theory on
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    podcasts what's that what's my theory
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    people go on to a podcast exactly that's
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    exactly what's happening yeah so the
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    that we we grabbed a cab to the to the
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    place we're staying and the first of all
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    was great this guy was 47 years old so I
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    could try out my little trivia question
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    on him I said hey were you around in the
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    80s yeah it was about 13 do you remember
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    a countdown and he does a double take oh
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    my god that's you so they do still
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    remember if the old enough now the
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    phrase is surely you know who I am but
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    he said hey when you guys go back make
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    sure that you have at least two hours be
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    at the airport two hours ahead of time
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    he says because when the Brits are going
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    back they're drunk they can't fly their
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    paperwork their passports they forgot
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    them that hold up the line he says it is
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    it's a it's a mess another travel tip
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    from your Noah generation actually good
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    tip that's a pretty good trip the big
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    problem though has been the 450 ones
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    explained error
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    51 this is an actual web server error
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    that is implemented and it involves the
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    general data protection rules so here's
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    a just a small sampling of Adam doing a
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    show prep I go to a website and we
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    recognize you are attempting to access
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    this website from a country belonging to
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    the European Economic Area including the
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    EU which enforces the general data
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    protection regulations and therefore
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    access cannot be granted at this time
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    and thanks for your patience thank you
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    for being a patron of the Dallas Morning
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    News unfortunately our site is
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    unavailable to European Union visitors
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    while we work with our partners to
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    ensure your data is protected we were
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    committed to serving our communities in
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    the eager to become technically
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    compliant to provide award winning
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    journalism to all of our readers
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    unfortunately our website is currently
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    available to in most European countries
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    we are engaged on the issue and
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    committed to looking at options that
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    support our full range of digital
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    offerings to the EU market we continue
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    to identify technical compliance
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    solutions that will provide all readers
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    with our award-winning journalism in
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    other words I would say a good 15
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    percent of what I was trying to access
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    is not legally accessible or at with for
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    non VPN users people who don't
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    understand how you can circumvent it
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    it's just not available dis just I mean
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    you must have had this and we've had it
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    before
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    no we've definitely had it before we did
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    not want to sit believing you now you've
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    done three shows from overseas I did not
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    have it in the UK it was not in the UK
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    oh really
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    and I didn't notice it so this is the
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    first one on the mainland and I'm
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    getting this non-stop oh that's
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    interesting yeah huh and I would have
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    noticed that I would have made note of
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    it yeah you would have no the way you
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    complain that you've after 11 years you
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    know I'd be complaining like a little
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    bitch I mean I should have been
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    complaining about two shows and I'm just
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    trying not to hear the ground loop yeah
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    so and and honestly I was thinking about
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    setting up the VP I could set up the VPN
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    quite easily but man it's Artie's I'm
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    amazed that we're talking to each other
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    without massive delay there's maybe a
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    megabit and a half each way on the on
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    the Wi-Fi connection here though and the
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    dongle has full bars but only 3G I can't
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    get a 4G signal so I'm sure when I come
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    out with this choice finish those songs
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    because I'll be one have any good
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    quality going through it to your site by
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    oh you sound actually you sound pretty
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    good by the way that's a timecode
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    notation thank you two things I've
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    learned well here what have you learned
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    Adam they have a new product here which
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    i think is outstanding it is fortunate
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    yes and it apparently was invented in
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    Portugal let me see if there's a there
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    so let me see if there's a name who hmm
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    I did ask about it so I know it was
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    invented here in Portugal wine in a tube
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    these tubes that are like a test tube
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    except it's the width of a bottleneck so
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    you know so that's about a big tube yeah
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    it's a sizable tube and I'd say it is
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    about mm-hmm see I'd say that's about
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    it's about five inches they want to know
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    me about seven inches
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    wait I should know it's about ten inches
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    and it's yeah the top the whole thinner
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    of of a wine bottle so the the it has a
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    twist off top and they send they sell
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    it's basically a one hit it's like you
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    pour it into your glass it's good for
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    one glass one glass you can take on the
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    ship which is it what's the milliliters
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    on that thing
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    hold on a second one one hundred
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    got it from the I got it from the
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    minibar here we go uh hundred milliliter
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    okay hundred mil make sense well this is
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    these kinds of things have been around
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    in the trade for some time as for
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    tasting for wine tasters and
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    professionals hmm oh really
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    yeah I thought it was for real
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    alcoholics because you just pop this in
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    your in your in your jacket and your
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    purse BAM you got a cocktail wherever
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    you need a little metal flask is the
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    best genuine wit bottle WI T that's the
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    registered trademark flocking wit so
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    those are the guys that I guess
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    trademarked it a registered trademark
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    but it's said that they're putting
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    everything in all kinds of wine I just
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    thought it was a genius idea wine
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    tastings would be perfect with these
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    things and it's just handy to take along
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    you know you're at school so yeah not
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    much to report but the the the
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    television coverage here has been
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    fantastic as in they got all the
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    channels you'd want Sky News CNN
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    International CNBC BBC in multiple BBC's
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    which is perfect because we have two
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    major things going on here one would be
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    the choosing of the next prime minister
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    of the United Kingdom's of Gitmo nation
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    east yeah worse well I will remind you
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    that I said it would be Boris and you
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    were like no no it's gonna be gold it's
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    gonna be that guy he's gonna be a you
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    were wrong no you said no I never said
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    no to Boris oh okay I shall get the got
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    a clip for next show I want yeah would
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    you hear this clip no I'll get a clip
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    where you will you said no it's not
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    gonna be him okay what was interesting
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    is that all of a sudden as you kind of
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    saw the flow and now the way they do
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    this is very interesting
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    they have three I think three rounds of
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    secret ballots amongst the party and
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    each time you see Boris Johnson is
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    winning he's winning is winning they
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    have to whittle that down to two
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    that's after think three rounds then
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    they send the final to the number one
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    and the closest after in this case Bojo
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    to a mail-in vote of the Conservative
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    Party across the country I mean they
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    should this is so just begging to be a
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    reality show that I don't underst I mean
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    they should have these guys doing money
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    on the bass scan you're like eating glue
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    eating shitty live bugs you know have to
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    repeal over over some angry white water
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    or something that would Boris he'll be
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    what Boris is will be fantastic and so
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    as you see the flow of this they kept
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    trying to push the the Rory guy
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    there's no good but it was like all Rory
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    oh and I think it was just like any
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    button but Boris please someone just
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    bring roar and now he got kicked out so
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    he's out so I think it'll be Boris
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    Johnson and uh I was at Hunt no oh no no
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    no Jeremy Hunt Jeremy Hunt yeah Jeremy
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    Hunt he's not even I think he'll be
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    number two I don't know yeah I think
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    that's what's going on but number two in
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    Teresa may was but well it's again it's
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    it's fun to watch and the cycle is so
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    similar to the hatred for Trump it's the
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    same thing he's racist in here he's a
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    big well you know part of that is you
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    know obviously there's some similes he's
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    a nut job
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    he's a loose cannon that my favorite of
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    course is Hitler he's hit literally
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    Hitler and there was this fantastic
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    prime minister question time the other
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    day where the
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    if the guy from the Scottish National
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    Party Ian was a black well I think his
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    name is Missy honest his name
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    Ian black guy that used to represent
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    them was his Angus character and he was
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    probably the best of the group well Ian
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    is doing pretty good because and this is
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    a this is a full two minute clip because
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    it has to go back and forth with the
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    with the speaker intervening because I
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    mean you can't just be calling a member
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    of parliament a racist in the UK you can
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    do it in America but not in the UK you
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    can't just be doing that does the Prime
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    Minister a dream with the front runner
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    set to succeed her that the Scottish
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    people are of their - race that should
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    be placed in ghettos and exterminated
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    well of course mr. speaker words matter
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    and actions matter the man who published
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    those words in his magazines the Prime
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    Minister thought was fit for the office
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    of her top diplomat that he hasn't
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    stopped there
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    he said that Scott should be banned from
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    being Prime Minister banned from being
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    Prime Minister mr. speaker this is a man
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    who is not fixed for office and so I
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    asked the Supreme Minister realize not
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    only is the member racist he is stoking
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    division in communities
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    mr.
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    the secret minister honestly believe
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    if the right honorable gentleman is
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    referring to a current member of this
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    house I don't know whether he is I don't
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    know who is talking about in the
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    language he uses he should have notified
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    the member in advance but I would urge I
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    like this
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    you can call human races as large and
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    notify him in advance I would urge him
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    to weigh his worse history and Blackford
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    and indeed and I think it would be much
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    better if for now he would withdraw any
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    allegation of races order against any
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    particular member I don't think that
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    this is the forum and the don't think
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    it's the right way to behave mr. Ian
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    Blackburn Mr Speaker I have informed the
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    member but member has called Muslim
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    women letterboxes he can't be using our
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    racist memes you can't be that's that's
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    America's racist meme the watermen of
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    watermelons my dick can't be stealing
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    that honestly believe that this man is
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    fit for the office of Prime Minister Lee
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    Prime Minister he's now the lead of the
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    SNP in this chamber for some time he's
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    be asking Prime Minister's Questions for
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    some time he might actually understand
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    the purpose of Prime Minister's
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    Questions I can write honorable
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    gentlemen that I believe I believe any
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    conservative Prime Minister in the
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    future will be better for Scotland than
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    the Scottish national so it's been
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    fabulous to watch yeah it's been great
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    you get those moments it's very
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    entertaining yeah I like it
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    I'd really discourage national parties
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    the worst but they're so sophisticated
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    over there in Parliament I just like how
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    there I think Oh about their business oh
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    yes you can call them races if you'd let
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    him know ahead of time it's thank you so
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    beautiful then we have the race for the
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    president of the EU Commission this is
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    the one that you know that this is
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    Yonkers job Juncker the drunker and
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    they're having a hard time figuring out
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    how to come to some consensus on who
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    this should be I'm hoping for the show's
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    sake that it's from steam Ramon's the
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    Dutch guy who was we we might be able to
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    get him to talk to us one day never know
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    but now the the former antique of the
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    antique competition Minister Margaret
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    Margaret the first at first at the first
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    at that she's in the running she has put
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    herself in the running yes so that's
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    interesting
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    yes let me see I have to quick heat
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    clips from her and she's playing the
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    gender card of course when you're see we
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    start with this one that has never yet
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    been a female president of this
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    institution do you think you're going to
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    be the first well that I don't know but
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    I find that it's long overdue that you
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    have
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    on this purse as well because women are
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    not a minority we are half the European
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    population half the world population
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    so I think it's about time that also the
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    Commission reflects our that fact
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    because it is important that you have
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    more diverse for us to exercise power
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    European Commission's vice-president
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    Kyle singer one of your current
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    colleagues is from the biggest group the
  • 18:05
    EPP he said it's out of the question
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    to give you the job of president what's
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    your reaction to that well that's
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    obviously his opinion the European
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    elections were outstanding because so
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    many Europeans they took the decision I
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    want to be part of our democracy more
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    than 50 percent voted and that's the
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    first and second they didn't vote as
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    they usually wrote it the EPP were
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    losing I think around 40 seats SRD were
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    losing seats as well my social liberal
  • 18:35
    family gained state so did the Greens so
  • 18:38
    there's a new dynamic in the European
  • 18:41
    Parliament and I think it's very
  • 18:43
    important to hear that call for change
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    oh yes a call for change there's twenty
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    by twenty eight members of course are
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    one for each country and she wants that
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    to be what is the term gender balanced
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    which means she wants a quota or does or
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    does she want a quota when you're in a
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    in a diverse group when you sort of
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    break uniformity in how we look very
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    often you also break uniformity and how
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    you think you gets better discussion she
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    but gets better decisions you see that
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    very much
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    in in business and you also see that in
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    political decision-making in my
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    experience so if you became Commission
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    president would you have fourteen women
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    nutritionists foreseen male
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    commissioners well you know it may be
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    fourteen women and thirteen men since we
  • 19:32
    may lose the UK I think this is this is
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    one of the the areas where we can show
  • 19:40
    Europeans that we change because a lot
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    of the changes that we're dealing with
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    they of course are slow and it takes
  • 19:46
    time to realize that things are changing
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    but do you believe in quitters well call
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    it cloture I think I don't think fifty
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    fifty years ago
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    and anyway we have accepted sort of
  • 19:58
    informal mail Kurtis of 8090 percent for
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    not even decades but for centuries where
  • 20:07
    women have not had the same access to
  • 20:09
    exercising power I think it is about
  • 20:12
    time that we get to gender balance
  • 20:14
    Commission gender balance there it is
  • 20:16
    and I can tell her it's not gonna happen
  • 20:18
    because Europe this is an old man's club
  • 20:21
    they're not gonna let any women rut come
  • 20:23
    and run the show
  • 20:24
    uh-uh can happen no no not not in house
  • 20:30
    way too early Europe is still way behind
  • 20:33
    us the u.s. on all this stuff
  • 20:36
    we have rammed it hard so fast and hard
  • 20:39
    through everything that was still the
  • 20:41
    heads are still spinning okay hmm no I
  • 20:44
    think it's just gonna be dudes you watch
  • 20:47
    well if she gets in she's gonna shake
  • 20:51
    things up yeah because there's a lot of
  • 20:54
    power it's a lot of power there a lot of
  • 20:56
    power I think that's the most powerful
  • 20:57
    spot yeah and I don't have a clip but
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    I'm sure you saw Angela Merkel man she
  • 21:04
    was with McCrone no now she was with the
  • 21:08
    Ukrainian president the new Ukrainian
  • 21:10
    president in Berlin there you go that I
  • 21:16
    mean I think that that could have come
  • 21:19
    from dehydration but it was not a good
  • 21:21
    look that that it was like it was like
  • 21:26
    she had an attack of some sorts this
  • 21:28
    reminds me of it so far it's not a good
  • 21:31
    look is concerned when George HW Bush
  • 21:33
    you puked all over the Prime Minister of
  • 21:37
    Japan Prime Minister in the past that
  • 21:40
    was not a good luck either I agree
  • 21:44
    and it was interesting that the the
  • 21:46
    Ukrainian present maybe he was really
  • 21:48
    engrossed by whatever was going he
  • 21:49
    didn't see that I didn't see that out of
  • 21:51
    his peripheral vision that's do you like
  • 21:53
    me shaking like I'm like a leaf it was
  • 21:56
    it was very odd that was sad to watch
  • 21:58
    really low blood sugar or something no
  • 22:01
    maybe maybe she was just trying to not
  • 22:04
    morph back into a reptile and I was no
  • 22:06
    she's trying to stop the fight fighting
  • 22:08
    the transformation also the outer skin
  • 22:14
    could be constricting her because there
  • 22:15
    may have been needed to know yeah she
  • 22:17
    need some time to shed and get a new one
  • 22:19
    yeah hey everybody if you've never heard
  • 22:23
    this show you're hearing it now we're
  • 22:27
    all about lizard yeah and that's kind of
  • 22:32
    what I have take it seriously that's
  • 22:34
    kind of what I have directly from a way
  • 22:37
    to do have one more thing
  • 22:38
    did you get any mh17 yes I did
  • 22:41
    I did what do you guys have one like the
  • 22:44
    clip from PBS raps it I think
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    international prosecutors charged four
  • 22:49
    men with murder today for blasting a
  • 22:52
    Malaysian Airlines plane out of the sky
  • 22:54
    over Ukraine in 2014 it happened in a
  • 22:57
    region controlled by Ukrainian rebels
  • 22:59
    who were backed by Russia the attack
  • 23:02
    killed all 298 people on the flight from
  • 23:05
    Amsterdam Dutch officials say the
  • 23:08
    suspect probably thought it was a
  • 23:10
    Ukrainian military plane and they used a
  • 23:13
    Russian missile to destroy it they saw
  • 23:17
    to it that it was brought in in the area
  • 23:19
    where they were in charge that it was
  • 23:21
    brought to the launch site and from this
  • 23:24
    land long shot beside the mh17 was shot
  • 23:27
    down and they were responsible for this
  • 23:30
    whole operation Russia and Ukraine
  • 23:32
    forbid extradition of their citizens but
  • 23:35
    prosecutors say the suspects will be
  • 23:37
    tried in absentia next March
  • 23:39
    there's a lot of weird first of all this
  • 23:43
    appears to be once again a Belling cat
  • 23:45
    analysis it hasn't changed much and
  • 23:48
    they're taking credit for it and I then
  • 23:50
    they're on the team the JIT the joint
  • 23:53
    investigation team what what I keep
  • 23:56
    hearing is
  • 23:57
    no court and international lawyers but I
  • 24:00
    don't think this is not i pc see here
  • 24:03
    they're not the the in or the ICC the
  • 24:05
    International Criminal Court this is a
  • 24:08
    court in the Netherlands that is
  • 24:11
    conducting this as far as I can don't
  • 24:14
    maybe it's a division of but it's it's
  • 24:16
    actually it's the same guys or the same
  • 24:18
    judge who prosecutors here at Vil ders
  • 24:23
    for racism for public racism if you'll
  • 24:27
    remember that yeah so it's the same guy
  • 24:30
    who is the same judge who will be again
  • 24:33
    this is just an indictment this is not
  • 24:35
    proof of anything it's an official
  • 24:37
    indictment and in March they're going to
  • 24:39
    bring it before trial which okay we'll
  • 24:42
    see and I was able to get at least one
  • 24:45
    Dutch guy to make foon of as he was
  • 24:47
    talking about how clear it is that this
  • 24:49
    has got to be the Russians men
  • 24:51
    prosecutors say they were commanding
  • 24:53
    separatists in eastern Ukraine in 2014
  • 24:55
    losing on the battlefield they phoned
  • 24:58
    senior military and government officials
  • 24:59
    in Russia desperate for weapons and
  • 25:02
    support intercepted by Ukrainian
  • 25:06
    intelligence a part of the evidence
  • 25:08
    unveiled today along with footage found
  • 25:10
    on the internet of the missile launcher
  • 25:12
    dispatched from Russia and more this
  • 25:14
    forensic that is witnesses that is
  • 25:17
    wiretap that is data analysis and where
  • 25:20
    you go through all those layers then at
  • 25:23
    the end you can say and one and one and
  • 25:25
    one is five there you go
  • 25:28
    that's how we do it in Europe everybody
  • 25:30
    Vaughn and Vaughn and Vaughn is 5 and 1
  • 25:33
    and 1 1 is 5 that's how we convicted
  • 25:35
    actually 3 that's how we can Vic which I
  • 25:41
    am submitting for the end of show I so
  • 25:44
    well I only have one say my n destroyer
  • 25:47
    which I pulled from trumps our 19 minute
  • 25:50
    speech ok Orlando where he announced
  • 25:54
    that he's running for president winning
  • 25:57
    winny I don't know I think the one one
  • 26:00
    one is five I think funny or I think I
  • 26:05
    kind of got you on that one we didn't
  • 26:08
    have breaking news just before the show
  • 26:10
    started president's offering his first
  • 26:11
    reaction now to the shoot-down of an
  • 26:13
    American drone by the Iranians last
  • 26:16
    night the president issue in one
  • 26:17
    sentence tweet saying Iran made a very
  • 26:20
    big mistake that coming just in the past
  • 26:22
    couple of minutes at the same time we're
  • 26:24
    getting information that there is
  • 26:25
    scheduled to be a meeting here at the
  • 26:26
    White House to gauge response to the
  • 26:30
    Iranian shoot down the president's tweet
  • 26:32
    I ran made a very big mistake
  • 26:33
    of course begging the question of what
  • 26:35
    the White House and what the
  • 26:36
    administration is prepared to do about
  • 26:38
    it if anything any kind of response at
  • 26:40
    all I spoke to Sarah Huckabee Sanders
  • 26:42
    the White House press secretary just a
  • 26:43
    few minutes ago she said the president
  • 26:45
    was briefed last night and has been
  • 26:47
    briefed again this morning on what the
  • 26:49
    US military knows about that shoot down
  • 26:51
    so no indication at this point of what
  • 26:53
    any potential US response would be but
  • 26:56
    the president I don't think you can call
  • 26:57
    this saber-rattling maybe just a Twitter
  • 27:00
    rattle but issuing a one-sentence
  • 27:01
    statement on Twitter here in reaction to
  • 27:03
    that shoot down guys there's a reaction
  • 27:04
    in the market crude oil is jumping on
  • 27:06
    this news WTI now up five percent no
  • 27:09
    there we go that that makes somebody
  • 27:11
    happy yeah is this a Twitter rattling
  • 27:15
    yes this is a deja vu term or a moment
  • 27:18
    for you as well as they shot down a
  • 27:20
    drone did we just go through this a
  • 27:23
    while ago they shot down a drone and
  • 27:27
    then it was like oh and they didn't they
  • 27:28
    didn't they grabbed the drone yes you're
  • 27:36
    right if you remember they were parading
  • 27:38
    it around nobody said much about it Dan
  • 27:41
    I'm shooting down the drones cost money
  • 27:44
    on Tuesday and there's also the debate
  • 27:47
    where there was over Iranian territory
  • 27:50
    well if you look at this it wasn't if it
  • 27:53
    wasn't over the territory what territory
  • 27:55
    would it be over I dispute this
  • 27:58
    international water bullcrap because the
  • 28:00
    Strait of Hormuz it's like you're either
  • 28:02
    UAE or you're I mean you gotta be right
  • 28:04
    in some very small small piece of what
  • 28:09
    do we do
  • 28:10
    when they're flying our drones come on
  • 28:12
    well we got a drone base right here off
  • 28:14
    to the Djibouti is on the other side
  • 28:16
    it's on the other side something
  • 28:18
    Djibouti yeah that's where we fly him
  • 28:21
    from but still is like come on I did get
  • 28:26
    this email on Tuesday now which is
  • 28:28
    anonymous I was staying at a hotel in
  • 28:30
    Cambridge UK on Thursday night last week
  • 28:32
    there were several pilots and co-pilots
  • 28:34
    of f-15 staying there they'd just flown
  • 28:37
    over to the UK on their way to Iran
  • 28:39
    refueling in midair four times on the
  • 28:42
    way over the Paynes planes were being
  • 28:43
    fitted out and checked before flying on
  • 28:46
    so something is probably likely to occur
  • 28:49
    over there Oh in the next few days and I
  • 28:51
    don't know if that's related to the
  • 28:52
    drone but I didn't know that there were
  • 28:54
    f-15s flying around and why didn't we
  • 28:56
    just use whatever we have on our in our
  • 28:58
    fleet can we have a whole fleet that we
  • 29:01
    sent over there with an aircraft carrier
  • 29:02
    sitting there so why are we sneaking in
  • 29:05
    f-15s in the through the backdoor just
  • 29:07
    because it would be obvious when we took
  • 29:09
    off from a carrier mm-hmm yeah the
  • 29:11
    carrier's just a decoy so we shot down
  • 29:15
    our own drone maybe just asking there's
  • 29:20
    no idea that one of the f-15s took the
  • 29:22
    drone out it was the first thing you
  • 29:25
    can't trust anything going on during
  • 29:27
    this little moment no and this is the
  • 29:31
    classic false flag moment we're just
  • 29:33
    waiting for something to happen and and
  • 29:36
    so something that happened a month ago
  • 29:38
    has now become the big news about oh
  • 29:41
    here on their 10 days away from
  • 29:44
    enriching uranium weapons-grade which is
  • 29:47
    both the 90s in here the same thing this
  • 29:51
    is such bullcrap I mean there are three
  • 29:54
    point six percent to be weapons-grade
  • 29:56
    you got to be like 70 80 percent it's it
  • 29:59
    takes a little bit longer but it's
  • 30:00
    always what NJ is designing the bomb
  • 30:03
    they haven't designed a bus we know
  • 30:04
    exactly you got to put that thing on the
  • 30:06
    rock supposed to be supposedly they're
  • 30:09
    using him
  • 30:09
    Pakistani North Korea design I have a
  • 30:13
    clip green bombs by the way are very
  • 30:16
    small this is from channel 4 in the UK
  • 30:18
    it is a crisis which arguably began in
  • 30:21
    Washington when President
  • 30:23
    labeled these Iranian Revolutionary
  • 30:25
    Guards as terrorists back in April and
  • 30:28
    tighten sanctions on their country then
  • 30:31
    the Americans sent an aircraft carrier
  • 30:33
    group and b-52 bombers to the Gulf they
  • 30:37
    said in response to an unspecified
  • 30:39
    Iranian threat
  • 30:41
    last month President rouhani announced
  • 30:44
    that Iran was ramping up its nuclear
  • 30:46
    fuel production reducing its compliance
  • 30:49
    with the deal the president Trump walked
  • 30:52
    away from a year ago and today the
  • 30:55
    Iranians chose one of their nuclear
  • 30:57
    plants as the venue to announce that
  • 30:59
    their supply of uranium will breach the
  • 31:02
    deals limit in ten days time in what is
  • 31:05
    a desperate bid to be allowed to sell
  • 31:07
    oil so desperate that a spokesman even
  • 31:11
    delivered it in English actions after 60
  • 31:18
    days they will not leave their
  • 31:21
    commitments we are not watching the
  • 31:25
    commitments we are not removing the
  • 31:27
    committee Iran's economy is being
  • 31:29
    crippled by US sanctions as the
  • 31:32
    Americans are threatening any company
  • 31:34
    anywhere which trades with Iran the
  • 31:37
    Chinese say they will defy Washington
  • 31:39
    and carry on buying oil but the
  • 31:41
    Europeans have tried and so far failed
  • 31:44
    to bypass the Americans today they said
  • 31:47
    they would keep trying amid fears the
  • 31:49
    nuclear deal will collapse so our focus
  • 31:52
    is not to enter into a blame game or
  • 31:54
    giving responsibility for a collapse or
  • 31:57
    the deal that might come our focus is to
  • 32:00
    keep the agreement in place and keep the
  • 32:04
    implementation of it now what I hear
  • 32:06
    them saying is hey Europe and Russia and
  • 32:11
    check you help us out I don't hear any
  • 32:14
    strong Iran going her--her we don't care
  • 32:18
    we're gonna build bombs no I know
  • 32:21
    there's also the element does not
  • 32:24
    explored much in these stories which is
  • 32:26
    how much oil is China buying and how are
  • 32:29
    they getting it there and how are they
  • 32:30
    paying for it well the other thing is I
  • 32:33
    have to assume I don't want to sound
  • 32:35
    like it you know
  • 32:37
    no know what to call my caster podcaster
  • 32:40
    oh I had assumed I would act like a
  • 32:42
    podcaster here and mention that the
  • 32:44
    Chinese probably aren't paying top
  • 32:46
    dollar for the best price always looking
  • 32:49
    for best price and this is probably
  • 32:53
    galling to the Iranians but the Chinese
  • 32:57
    market would suck up all the Iranian oil
  • 32:59
    if it you know if they could its and
  • 33:02
    that's portal and that's part of what
  • 33:04
    Iran was asking for is circumvent this
  • 33:07
    financial bloc which I don't like I
  • 33:10
    really despise that you know the cutting
  • 33:14
    people off advising Swift yeah thank you
  • 33:17
    cutting people off from the payment
  • 33:19
    system that's it's so mean that's that's
  • 33:20
    that's war war actions in my book
  • 33:24
    yeah Alex Jones what do you mean they
  • 33:30
    cut him off from all the jaws outlets
  • 33:32
    and PayPal won't pick him up I think
  • 33:34
    okay yeah Alex Jones Iran I think PayPal
  • 33:38
    still picks him up it was it was
  • 33:40
    Wikipedia who everybody dropped from
  • 33:43
    payments remember was it no no it was
  • 33:49
    WikiLeaks I'm sorry
  • 33:52
    yes WikiLeaks I meant WikiLeaks but I'm
  • 33:55
    pretty sure I'm pretty sure Infowars got
  • 33:58
    the platform from Payment Systems - I'm
  • 34:00
    pretty sure it could be yeah and then
  • 34:03
    the latest of course is MailChimp
  • 34:05
    oh yes yes we can't have anything about
  • 34:08
    at no anti-vaxxer stuff they gatekeepers
  • 34:11
    of society when did this happen well yes
  • 34:15
    this is exactly what they are
  • 34:16
    gatekeepers of society this is more of
  • 34:19
    our you know how we have been looking at
  • 34:23
    this deep platforming this the big purge
  • 34:26
    yeah MailChimp do they not have a well
  • 34:32
    first of all I'm sure they're used by
  • 34:34
    tons of brands and commercial companies
  • 34:36
    who use them to communicate with their
  • 34:39
    customers and they just don't want you
  • 34:42
    know any controversy connected to their
  • 34:45
    name that's what it's about we don't
  • 34:47
    want any stories about
  • 34:50
    are but we're a service their name
  • 34:52
    MailChimp is not now unless you put the
  • 34:54
    logo at the bottom here okay here we go
  • 34:57
    here we go ladies and gentlemen we've
  • 34:59
    got a headline here it seems that
  • 35:01
    anti-vaxxers are using email systems
  • 35:03
    like MailChimp to spread their message
  • 35:05
    of disinformation in a film at 11:00
  • 35:10
    that would be exactly why they would
  • 35:12
    want to take anybody who's doing that
  • 35:14
    off I don't find that very controversial
  • 35:19
    makes sense makes sense to you yes it's
  • 35:26
    it is quite interesting how many people
  • 35:29
    are mad at me for even suggesting that
  • 35:32
    that this is not Silicon Valley actively
  • 35:35
    trying to shut up people and sensory
  • 35:38
    conservative viewpoints no I agree with
  • 35:42
    you I don't think this is that as much
  • 35:44
    as it is the brand the brand say brands
  • 35:47
    safe message in fact we have well
  • 35:51
    there's a lot going on we have don't
  • 35:52
    want to be associated with that well let
  • 35:57
    me use a little background or not direct
  • 36:00
    me if you're a service company yeah
  • 36:02
    you're a service company does that mean
  • 36:04
    that the cat guys would make tin cans
  • 36:06
    you know I'd have to be this way too I
  • 36:09
    mean they make tin can manufacturing the
  • 36:10
    products FMC food machinery corporation
  • 36:14
    they're making a big line of candy bar
  • 36:17
    makers that's gonna put the totally
  • 36:19
    engineered candy bar system and the
  • 36:21
    candy bar Factory but the candy bars are
  • 36:23
    gonna be you know something that's you
  • 36:25
    know hate Obama bar well you can't now
  • 36:29
    we're not selling you our equipment well
  • 36:31
    luckily not far from here we have the
  • 36:33
    con lions festival which i think is just
  • 36:36
    close you know they'll the big parties
  • 36:38
    are tomorrow night and this is the big
  • 36:40
    advertising festival it's always on the
  • 36:43
    heels of the the Kahn Film Festival now
  • 36:46
    all the advertisers go there and they
  • 36:47
    all hang out and drink with potential
  • 36:49
    advert that well tits really the
  • 36:52
    agencies and they go you know they take
  • 36:55
    the brand and the and the media buyers
  • 36:57
    out and they fly them around the
  • 36:58
    helicopters get them laid on stinky
  • 37:00
    horrors it's it's a phantom
  • 37:03
    stick I've been there it's a fantastic
  • 37:05
    event and well here's just how to get
  • 37:09
    you into the vibe of how how the
  • 37:12
    industry thinks here's an interview of
  • 37:15
    course we had CNBC or no it's now Fox
  • 37:18
    Fox Business News money honey a Maria
  • 37:21
    Bartiromo on the scene she loves to hang
  • 37:24
    out there in con and she's talking to I
  • 37:26
    think one of the big admire guys at Olga
  • 37:29
    V huge advertising company just a little
  • 37:33
    bit about the industry a little
  • 37:34
    background err joining me right now is
  • 37:35
    Olga V worldwide chief executive John
  • 37:38
    Seyfert John great to see you thanks so
  • 37:40
    much for joining us you are also the
  • 37:43
    present for the creative effectiveness
  • 37:44
    Lions tell us more about that
  • 37:46
    it's one of the toughest lions to win
  • 37:48
    because you can't just be creative in
  • 37:50
    your work you have to show that the
  • 37:51
    creativity actually makes a difference
  • 37:52
    in the marketplace so did you grow the
  • 37:54
    clients business did you improve the
  • 37:56
    health of the brand so the standard of
  • 37:58
    market outcomes is much higher when you
  • 38:00
    look at the grouping of ads that we see
  • 38:06
    yeah but I want I want everyone to
  • 38:10
    listen to this because you understand
  • 38:11
    how these people and I've been a part of
  • 38:14
    this industry how they are completely
  • 38:16
    just into the brand and this the brand
  • 38:20
    the brand lives and the brand speaks and
  • 38:22
    the brand listens and people connect
  • 38:24
    with the brand this is why things have
  • 38:26
    to be brand safe last year what are some
  • 38:30
    of those that really stand out well I
  • 38:32
    think anything any brand that gets part
  • 38:34
    of the social conversation so a lot of
  • 38:36
    the the please pay attention to social
  • 38:38
    conversation the submissions I've seen
  • 38:41
    so far in the jury is the impact it
  • 38:44
    created through cultural conversation
  • 38:45
    did we get attention that people want to
  • 38:47
    talk about us did they want to share
  • 38:49
    what they learned from that brand with
  • 38:51
    friends and family and did it sort of
  • 38:53
    strike a chord more broadly and culture
  • 38:55
    those are those are the ones that are
  • 38:57
    really getting the most attention so and
  • 38:58
    and those really resonate because it's
  • 39:01
    about issues that we're all talking
  • 39:03
    about exactly it's all part of the mash
  • 39:05
    up of the kind of everyday life from
  • 39:06
    what I consume to what I my politics are
  • 39:09
    to how I feel about the world in general
  • 39:11
    it's all
  • 39:12
    coming together you know increasingly as
  • 39:14
    I'm speaking to chief marketing officers
  • 39:16
    this week I'm finding that it doesn't
  • 39:18
    matter if you're the most successful
  • 39:19
    brand or an emerging brand everybody's
  • 39:22
    dealing with the same issues and one of
  • 39:23
    those issues is attracting young people
  • 39:26
    attracting women how do you do it well
  • 39:28
    every brand today is trying to be
  • 39:29
    relevant and authentic to who they are
  • 39:31
    so having a strong point of view because
  • 39:33
    it's not just about selling something
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    that's a better product a lot of these
  • 39:37
    audiences want to know what you think
  • 39:39
    what you care about in the world why
  • 39:41
    should you matter to them and then how
  • 39:43
    do they matter to you so every every
  • 39:46
    brand is trying to think through how to
  • 39:47
    be more relevant and authentic and how
  • 39:50
    it engages its audience which is why
  • 39:51
    somebody like for example the NFL almost
  • 39:53
    is using their players yes to talk to
  • 39:57
    you know resonate with with viewers
  • 39:58
    because viewers don't you know they
  • 40:02
    don't necessarily react to logos but
  • 40:04
    they react to people well the one thing
  • 40:05
    we've said over and over is you can't
  • 40:07
    fake it anymore if it's not true on the
  • 40:09
    inside no one's gonna believe it's true
  • 40:14
    the people play in the game I know it
  • 40:18
    was painful I know it was painful to
  • 40:20
    listen to biggest load of crap probably
  • 40:23
    the greatest clips you've ever played
  • 40:27
    but it makes me so sick
  • 40:31
    this shows you how insane people are
  • 40:35
    about the brand and why they don't want
  • 40:38
    even MailChimp is a brand who's a stupid
  • 40:41
    chimp with it with it with an envelope
  • 40:43
    and a little mailman hat yeah people
  • 40:45
    don't want their brand associated with
  • 40:47
    anything you know thong inauthentic
  • 40:49
    that's not exactly its authenticity at
  • 40:51
    all about and so that's why here at the
  • 40:53
    Connelly on lion fest of all the big
  • 40:56
    advertisers social media have formed the
  • 40:58
    Alliance they wanted to fight unsafe
  • 41:01
    content online yes Proctor and Gamble
  • 41:04
    Facebook are now addressing hate speech
  • 41:07
    and other problems together and this is
  • 41:11
    obviously it's the Nate the and the name
  • 41:14
    of this thing is I have the actual name
  • 41:17
    of this what is this thing called this
  • 41:20
    alliance
  • 41:22
    the Global Alliance for Responsible
  • 41:24
    media and in this participating Procter
  • 41:27
    & Gamble General Mills Diageo MasterCard
  • 41:30
    Facebook Twitter alphabet Omnicom WPP
  • 41:34
    you've got all the big ones there right
  • 41:36
    there you don't need anything else and
  • 41:39
    what they want to do is they want to
  • 41:41
    have all these rules and want everyone
  • 41:44
    to to understand what is necessary for
  • 41:48
    for advertising to take place on the
  • 41:52
    Silicon Valley social companies and on
  • 41:54
    YouTube digital advertising will make up
  • 41:57
    more than half of global ad sales for
  • 41:59
    the first time this year according to
  • 42:01
    the latest forecast by Magna Global part
  • 42:04
    of inter inter public but social media
  • 42:06
    platforms have been tarred by repeated
  • 42:10
    revelations that they are hosting
  • 42:11
    political disinformation and malicious
  • 42:14
    content in one of the most recent
  • 42:16
    examples AT&T Clorox Nestle McDonald's
  • 42:19
    and fortnight publisher Epic Games
  • 42:22
    paused or halted their YouTube
  • 42:25
    advertising following reports viewers
  • 42:27
    were making inappropriate comments on
  • 42:29
    videos of young girls YouTube later
  • 42:32
    suspended comments on most videos that
  • 42:35
    feature minors so they're fighting they
  • 42:43
    are fighting and it is a full-on war
  • 42:46
    between established companies companies
  • 42:50
    maybe even who are just trying to
  • 42:51
    compete for instance Vox media which is
  • 42:54
    arguably a mainstream company were there
  • 42:57
    n-b-c investment of a quarter billion
  • 42:59
    dollars I'd say so
  • 43:01
    I am NOT a big fan of Nilay Patel
  • 43:04
    kaathal ways thought he's kind of
  • 43:06
    schwöre me
  • 43:07
    he's the it's indeed the boss over at
  • 43:09
    the verge the editor-in-chief for
  • 43:12
    something which is a Vox media property
  • 43:14
    I gotta give him big props for really
  • 43:18
    taking it to Facebook and just just
  • 43:21
    spewing in their face in their eyes with
  • 43:24
    this recent revelation they got three of
  • 43:27
    the content moderators who work for
  • 43:29
    cognizant which is a company we've
  • 43:31
    talked about many times we've had we've
  • 43:34
    had many reports
  • 43:35
    people you know looking through the
  • 43:37
    through what what you people are asking
  • 43:40
    Google to do but also pure content
  • 43:42
    moderation of uploads to YouTube and in
  • 43:45
    this case to Facebook and and not only
  • 43:48
    did they publish quite a great expose of
  • 43:52
    what really goes on and there's always
  • 43:54
    this all these poor people they're all
  • 43:56
    their mental health but screw that this
  • 43:59
    is a Direct Hit job on Facebook and I
  • 44:02
    pulled the a couple of quotes from a
  • 44:04
    YouTube it funny enough a YouTube
  • 44:07
    interview that has been published which
  • 44:09
    I actually was hard to find again this
  • 44:12
    morning when I was trying to pull the
  • 44:13
    clip from it and you'll understand
  • 44:15
    taking the awesome you'll understand why
  • 44:23
    there's a problem when this is out there
  • 44:25
    and this is what you're dealing with
  • 44:27
    content moderation is a really difficult
  • 44:29
    job you have to take Facebook's policies
  • 44:31
    which can change every day and then
  • 44:33
    apply them to decide what stays up on
  • 44:36
    Facebook and Instagram and what comes
  • 44:38
    down a couple of months ago I was
  • 44:41
    contacted by some moderators who worked
  • 44:43
    for Facebook in Tampa Florida through a
  • 44:45
    company called cognizant and they told
  • 44:47
    me that they wanted to go on the record
  • 44:49
    so they told you we're gonna put you in
  • 44:52
    a queue of content that is dedicated to
  • 44:55
    graphic violence and hate speech yes you
  • 44:58
    would get the occasional random thing
  • 45:00
    but for the most part it was always
  • 45:02
    graphic violence and hate speech because
  • 45:04
    that's all that was coming in for us
  • 45:05
    more like some of the kinds of things
  • 45:07
    that you would see that would be really
  • 45:08
    hard for you animals mostly animals the
  • 45:13
    abuse of animals I've seen them had a
  • 45:16
    puppy with a rope hanging it and I've
  • 45:19
    seen a pit of pigs and they threw fire
  • 45:21
    and you can hear the pig screaming I
  • 45:23
    don't an emotional talk about the
  • 45:25
    animals there was one where there was a
  • 45:28
    baby that was there were twin babies
  • 45:30
    from like Saudi Arabia and the mother
  • 45:32
    was dropping the baby on the ground this
  • 45:34
    is one we saw over and over again and
  • 45:36
    then choke the baby and you hear the
  • 45:38
    baby gurgling and trying to breathe
  • 45:41
    and for days it infected my mind I had
  • 45:44
    to know what happened to this baby
  • 45:46
    because I'd seen it over and over and
  • 45:48
    over again luckily the baby was ok I
  • 45:51
    just think about all the animals all the
  • 45:53
    time
  • 45:53
    and that's what I'm still thinking about
  • 45:55
    even though I left you know do you
  • 45:58
    remember the first video that you saw it
  • 46:01
    was video in a different language and it
  • 46:04
    was these two teenagers and they came
  • 46:07
    across an iguana on the street and one
  • 46:10
    of the kids grabbed the iguana by the
  • 46:12
    tail and they started to smash the
  • 46:15
    Iguana onto the ground and you could
  • 46:18
    just hear the iguana screaming and that
  • 46:23
    was one of the first videos I saw on
  • 46:25
    that queue yeah and they just they kept
  • 46:28
    slamming that you going on to the ground
  • 46:30
    the iguana just kept screaming and
  • 46:33
    screaming and then screaming stopped and
  • 46:36
    it was just a bloody pile and the kids
  • 46:39
    were just laughing at the iguana were
  • 46:41
    you able to remove that video from
  • 46:43
    Facebook
  • 46:43
    no since that video had no title and no
  • 46:47
    caption we were supposed to um send it
  • 46:51
    to a different queue for
  • 46:52
    spanish-speaking but uh I don't think
  • 46:56
    there really was a spanish-speaking
  • 46:58
    queue that was taking care of that so
  • 47:00
    this whole piece in the video which is
  • 47:03
    15 minutes long he's reiterating that
  • 47:06
    Facebook has you keep here it came back
  • 47:09
    and there was again and was reloaded and
  • 47:11
    we couldn't delete it we didn't know how
  • 47:12
    to delete and the rules say don't delete
  • 47:14
    it and if you want to get any group of
  • 47:16
    people riled up against a company make
  • 47:19
    sure it's Cruelty to Animals people
  • 47:22
    gives a shit I choked a baby
  • 47:24
    what you killed an iguana people are
  • 47:27
    gonna lose their crap over this well
  • 47:29
    done well done Vox media very very good
  • 47:34
    though no one will have to do anything
  • 47:36
    you won't have to have all these these
  • 47:38
    rules in Congress you know we're sent
  • 47:41
    out there there's no legislation you
  • 47:44
    hear about the legislation they're
  • 47:46
    proposing yes just a bunch of virtual
  • 47:48
    signaling by the Democrats are pulling a
  • 47:50
    lot of stunts at the moment reparations
  • 47:52
    I'll get to that in a second
  • 47:55
    this is this is the Holly bill and we're
  • 47:59
    Smoot
  • 48:01
    I never might have gone a few people out
  • 48:04
    there will get that joke going so the
  • 48:06
    the Holly bill essentially would have
  • 48:10
    the government appoint people who
  • 48:15
    determine what is and not is is and is
  • 48:19
    not allowed when it comes to moderation
  • 48:22
    and or algorithms that might be
  • 48:28
    performing editorial tasks and of course
  • 48:32
    this will only apply to wet you know the
  • 48:34
    social or companies that have thirty
  • 48:36
    million active users a month or at least
  • 48:39
    five hundred million in revenue every
  • 48:42
    month so it's really targeted at Silicon
  • 48:45
    Valley he's like we're safe no way safe
  • 48:49
    oh yeah totally
  • 48:51
    well no agenda so this is this is the
  • 48:53
    next thing I'll just touch on this
  • 48:54
    briefly so I truly believe that we can
  • 48:59
    just let it you don't need to regulate
  • 49:01
    this is all going to take care of itself
  • 49:03
    because advertisers the more of these
  • 49:05
    stories there are and there's plenty of
  • 49:07
    incentive for mainstream in particular
  • 49:09
    print and television and you know
  • 49:12
    mainstream guys that to keep pointing
  • 49:15
    out how evil these companies are and how
  • 49:18
    they can't handle hey I can't do it
  • 49:20
    that's finally starting people starting
  • 49:23
    to figure that out that artificial
  • 49:24
    intelligence can't weed this stuff out
  • 49:26
    and and so it's they're going to keep
  • 49:30
    shutting down all of their properties
  • 49:33
    you know just like MailChimp take off
  • 49:35
    anyone who might be talking about
  • 49:37
    vaccines being unsafe get rid of
  • 49:39
    everything until you basically have an
  • 49:43
    AOL you're going to have an AOL
  • 49:46
    situation with YouTube where people or
  • 49:49
    even Twitter or Twitter may be a better
  • 49:51
    example where you're just in this box of
  • 49:54
    safeness
  • 49:55
    and people will keep telling you about
  • 49:57
    hey you know there's this Mastodon
  • 50:00
    there's this Federation thing over here
  • 50:02
    you should check this out oh no no I
  • 50:03
    want to stay here
  • 50:04
    it was just like America Online
  • 50:06
    everyone's hey can we get a bra
  • 50:08
    to the internet no no no you can just
  • 50:10
    use your keywords you can all the
  • 50:12
    content you want here it's okay it's all
  • 50:14
    safe and then they opened it up a little
  • 50:16
    bit and gave you a crappy ass browser
  • 50:18
    and people like oh my god this is great
  • 50:20
    this is scary this is all the cool stuff
  • 50:22
    people gravitate towards that they're
  • 50:25
    not gonna want to stay in these complete
  • 50:27
    brands safe environments it's boring
  • 50:30
    so with and I'm just making a prediction
  • 50:33
    gap com is on July 4th they will become
  • 50:37
    a part of the Federation and already
  • 50:40
    we're seeing I'm getting emails now hey
  • 50:44
    are you uh are you moderating uh No
  • 50:47
    Agenda social calm are you them are you
  • 50:49
    the moderator above those lon oh yeah
  • 50:53
    well you need to block gap in advance
  • 50:55
    man we can't have that on the on the on
  • 50:57
    them we can't have that in the
  • 50:59
    Federation like Gavin it's the stupidest
  • 51:05
    thing it's like the people so they left
  • 51:08
    Twitter and Facebook because they felt
  • 51:11
    it was no fun and you know and there
  • 51:12
    were too many Nazis I don't know what it
  • 51:14
    was now now they're going to their
  • 51:16
    little safe spaces and blocking
  • 51:18
    everything you need controversy you see
  • 51:21
    this is this is what people don't get
  • 51:23
    what is it about just Twitter as an
  • 51:25
    example you need the controversy with
  • 51:28
    that you need the drugs added in the
  • 51:30
    hits you know like in the dopamine hit
  • 51:32
    like oh I gotta like I'm like me saying
  • 51:34
    that someone is a shithead I got more
  • 51:36
    followers because you know people listen
  • 51:37
    to me because I talk smack about them
  • 51:39
    and the drug element is what will keep
  • 51:41
    people going but if you remove the
  • 51:43
    controversy it's just it's not gonna be
  • 51:45
    interesting so federated AI is my
  • 51:48
    message that's what it's gonna be
  • 51:51
    that's cute here's a Tim Cook doing the
  • 51:55
    commencement speech at Stanford virtue
  • 51:57
    signaling meanwhile he has well he isn't
  • 52:00
    he hasn't created but his company is in
  • 52:02
    charge of one of the biggest components
  • 52:05
    of evil that exists today amongst social
  • 52:08
    networking from the first oscillator
  • 52:09
    built in the Hewlett Packard garage to
  • 52:12
    the iPhones that I know you're holding
  • 52:14
    in your hands
  • 52:16
    social media shareable video snaps and
  • 52:20
    stories that connect half the people on
  • 52:22
    earth they all trace their roots to
  • 52:26
    Stanford's backyard but lately it seems
  • 52:31
    this industry is becoming better known
  • 52:35
    for a less noble innovation the belief
  • 52:39
    that you can claim credit without
  • 52:42
    accepting responsibility every day now
  • 52:49
    with every data bridge every privacy
  • 52:53
    violation every blind I turn to hate
  • 52:57
    speech fake news poisoning our national
  • 53:01
    conversation the false miracles in
  • 53:05
    exchange for a single drop of your blood
  • 53:09
    too many seem to think that good
  • 53:11
    intentions excuse away harmful outcomes
  • 53:16
    but whether you like it or not what you
  • 53:19
    build and what you create define who you
  • 53:23
    are it feels a bit crazy that anyone
  • 53:27
    should have to say this but if you built
  • 53:30
    a chaos factory you can't dodge
  • 53:33
    responsibility for the chaos taking
  • 53:37
    responsibility means having the courage
  • 53:40
    to think things through yeah well big
  • 53:42
    talk Tom Collins what is it would he
  • 53:46
    become a philosopher oh please that's
  • 53:49
    all he does he's big talk for a company
  • 53:54
    that created the the the box that the
  • 53:57
    rage factory lives in the chaos machine
  • 54:00
    it's you know all right why don't you
  • 54:02
    block all access to the external XP eyes
  • 54:07
    and ways for people to spy on you using
  • 54:10
    all the little bits and bobs inside the
  • 54:12
    iPhone it's really disingenuous what
  • 54:14
    he's doing there just and and get this
  • 54:20
    gab submitted a version of the browser
  • 54:25
    that that I've been using on the desktop
  • 54:27
    which is fantastic
  • 54:28
    that's all the elements of brave that I
  • 54:30
    wanted you know all the blocking and
  • 54:32
    getting rid of tracking and you know
  • 54:34
    little VPN action there that sends
  • 54:37
    tracking URLs to the bitbucket without
  • 54:40
    all the overhead of the crypto and all
  • 54:42
    the stuff they're trying to make money
  • 54:44
    with that they've the creative version
  • 54:46
    of that for iOS and it was rejected
  • 54:49
    rejected for questionable content
  • 54:52
    it's a browser it's a browser now I
  • 54:59
    think that they may not be telling the
  • 55:01
    whole truth I think it may be something
  • 55:04
    else going on because they're their
  • 55:07
    developer account was they were locked
  • 55:10
    out of their developer account and I
  • 55:12
    don't know what else is going on but
  • 55:13
    without a doing without a doubt it's
  • 55:15
    verse you're signaling we don't want
  • 55:17
    anything would brave on our on our
  • 55:22
    devices and really always look go ahead
  • 55:25
    is also the fact and they kind of hinted
  • 55:28
    at it that the descent browser which is
  • 55:32
    what you're talking about is allows for
  • 55:39
    Independence threads outside of the
  • 55:42
    normal uh back-and-forth that you have
  • 55:45
    in comments yes yeah and and it's some
  • 55:49
    of in some instances I've run into
  • 55:51
    they're these these threads of comments
  • 55:55
    from the descent browser infrastructure
  • 55:58
    are bigger yes there you go in the
  • 56:02
    comments that exist within the normal
  • 56:05
    system it's really kind of subversive
  • 56:07
    it's a great idea that they came up with
  • 56:10
    it's like enable anyone to start a
  • 56:12
    conversation thread around any URL any
  • 56:15
    website any video anything and I think
  • 56:18
    that's probably a bigger issue it's like
  • 56:20
    oh crap is like they're taken away our
  • 56:22
    audience they're they're siphoning that
  • 56:24
    off than I using our systems and they
  • 56:27
    say that
  • 56:28
    the dissenter gab guys say that they
  • 56:30
    sent it to Department of Justice it's
  • 56:33
    probably antitrust is probably should
  • 56:35
    have gone to the trade administration at
  • 56:40
    NCC FTC commission but it is it's
  • 56:46
    noticeable what's going on it truly is
  • 56:50
    and so I think let him let it let
  • 56:53
    everyone run around do all their stuff
  • 56:55
    it's it could be five months five years
  • 56:58
    ten years I don't know what eventually
  • 57:00
    everything just has to be decentralized
  • 57:02
    there's no other way about it and the
  • 57:04
    advertising model yeah it'll last for a
  • 57:07
    long time but it's not a growth industry
  • 57:09
    it's not gonna work because you cannot
  • 57:11
    monetize the network in any fashion not
  • 57:13
    even with ads at scale because the
  • 57:17
    killing animals races right it never
  • 57:20
    ends - good luck to him good luck to him
  • 57:24
    well I've joined I was a member of gab a
  • 57:28
    guy you must be a Nazi
  • 57:31
    what you must be a Nazi I've gone on
  • 57:35
    there and it seems like Twitter to me I
  • 57:36
    don't know why what am i what am I
  • 57:39
    thinking it looks like Twitter feels
  • 57:40
    like Twitter looks like Twitter here's
  • 57:42
    what's interesting yesterday so as
  • 57:46
    everything moves towards a federated
  • 57:48
    model it will I think Twitter eventually
  • 57:50
    you'll also be able to follow someone on
  • 57:52
    Twitter from from No Agenda social or
  • 57:55
    gab com whatever that's that's I think
  • 57:57
    Dorsey actually is kind of painted that
  • 58:00
    he sees that happening but when people
  • 58:04
    who are running so mastodons dot social
  • 58:07
    is a very big note on the federated
  • 58:09
    Network and you know we've been domain
  • 58:11
    blocked because we're we were branded
  • 58:14
    quite early as because of you know one
  • 58:16
    or two people who engaged in something
  • 58:18
    with some social justice warrior then
  • 58:21
    all of a sudden we're on the Block list
  • 58:22
    and you people don't see the irony of
  • 58:25
    saying we have blocked this entire
  • 58:28
    domain this entire group of people
  • 58:31
    because they're bigots and xenophobes is
  • 58:35
    not blocking a whole group of people
  • 58:37
    based on the action of one the deaf
  • 58:40
    Nishan of bigotry and xenophobia thank
  • 58:43
    you they don't see this irony
  • 58:46
    course not it's for the better good I am
  • 58:50
    so so proud of our value for value
  • 58:53
    networking the way we've done this and
  • 58:55
    that we've been doing it for 11 years
  • 58:57
    I'm done I'm very proud of that in fact
  • 59:01
    I'm so proud that I'd like to thank you
  • 59:04
    for your courage and say in the morning
  • 59:05
    to you the man who put the C in the con
  • 59:07
    lions festival John see good morning you
  • 59:14
    mister I'm Karina motor ship see boots
  • 59:15
    on ground feet in the air subs through
  • 59:16
    our games and nights out there in the
  • 59:17
    morning to our trolls at the troll roof
  • 59:20
    they are no agenda scream calm and
  • 59:22
    they've been all over everything today
  • 59:24
    all over the all over the map but you
  • 59:26
    can join there anytime this great show
  • 59:29
    us listen to of course the No Agenda
  • 59:30
    show live twice a week on Thursdays and
  • 59:33
    but there's many many other great shows
  • 59:36
    listed to and participate in the troll
  • 59:38
    room you can sit there and you can say
  • 59:39
    something nice or troll or do whatever
  • 59:41
    you want to just be completely passive
  • 59:43
    it is where we all meet no agenda stream
  • 59:45
    comm also a big in the morning to
  • 59:49
    cesium-137 he brought us the artwork for
  • 59:51
    episode 11 47 the title of that episode
  • 59:55
    was hard and we did go back and forth a
  • 1:00:00
    few times about what we wanted to use
  • 1:00:03
    this was the I heart dad blackboard kind
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    of for Father's Day which we are we're
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    basically suckers for the traditional
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    artwork for a Mother's Day a Father's
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    Day a Christmas maybe Valentine's Day
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    when we argued about the artwork let me
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    see what else was probably mentioned
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    that once we rejected the funniest one
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    of course was oh oh Jake for glove the
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    glove cast glove cast by Mike Riley
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    especially with the blood all over
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    we felt that for Father's Day this might
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    not be the most appropriate artwork I
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    mean can you believe it we didn't want
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    to be the platform from ourselves the
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    platform but that was the I think that
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    was the best piece yeah I was very
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    London it picked the other pieces were
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    dubious there was a good
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    Father's Day by I mean there's some
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    other father's day one but none of them
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    who was quite as as jazzy yeah we it was
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    a strong ego cesium-137 which is very
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    professional-looking connects yeah make
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    anything yeah so we appreciate what
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    caesium did there and that is I just got
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    a note from someone this morning who
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    said hey keep here he's doing a project
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    for her it's like a yes what maybe he
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    didn't specify some customer and they're
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    doing podcasts and I've sold them on the
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    idea that having art changed with each
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    episode is very good yes yeah this is no
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    one's doing that I look genius by even
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    proposing that how do you do it so
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    explain to him where to what to do were
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    to change it's part of the actual then
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    then the app kind of figured I'll start
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    spontaneously by two guys yeah yeah
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    there you go
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    you just seem to do all the artwork in
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    the early days and they disappeared and
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    yeah and now yeah now we're up to what
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    we must have 11 years we have I can tell
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    you how many images we have now of
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    course we haven't used all these images
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    and many are completely inappropriate no
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    but a lot of it uses evergreens to get
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    using the newsletter there some of them
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    get used as of this measure more than
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    you think actually as if yes as of this
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    measurement thirteen thousand five
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    hundred and eighty pieces of artwork in
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    eleven year period that is not bad yeah
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    that's ten times the amount of shows
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    yeah so hallelujah anyway as a part of
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    our art the platform immunity we don't
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    have advertisers we've we chose this
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    very early on and we said to people hey
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    you want us to do this we got to get
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    paid somehow and we came up with this
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    model where you send us the value that
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    you feel you received out of listening
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    to the program and it turns out a lot of
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    people get value and they'd like to
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    thank us for it and we like to thank
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    them by reading their donations on the
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    air we like to start early in the show
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    just like Hollywood
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    oddly enough with our executive
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    producers
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    and the only notes that we are obliged
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    to read by rule are those of the
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    executive producers correct and people
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    will continue to say in the olden days
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    when we started we read everything that
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    was we didn't have that many donations
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    no we got donations and we got we had
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    enough that was but it became that we
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    started getting more donations that we
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    said that do a cutoff so we started
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    reading all the notes about fifty
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    dollars yeah and then people started
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    sending big long notes we ended up with
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    do at least two copies of war and peace
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    by a couple of the guys sending in $51
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    we got we got up that we got to update
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    we have to update that from not war and
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    peace but it has to be the entire Lord
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    of the Rings series or something we have
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    to do a little hipper than worn piece we
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    know Game of Thrones alt all three books
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    jeez anyway so we had these people
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    writing these long tomes and it was
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    getting it was taking up the show the
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    show half the show was yeah thank you
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    reading these long notes for people who
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    donate $50 so that's when we cut off 250
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    dollar notes and we wanted you gets
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    mentioned and we will read occasional
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    notes from the between 50 and 200 but
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    200 and up the notes we are we feel
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    obliged to read then we read them in
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    their entirety and some of them are
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    quite long and we don't you know we more
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    or less appreciate the shorter notes and
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    so because some people seem to have lost
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    that memo and they're writing notes as
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    they're asking for a jingle request also
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    very they're also very happy many of
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    them you know and they achieve a
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    knighthood or another status there very
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    well we don't have a problem people just
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    forget you know so it's good to remind
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    them that you know there is a show to be
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    done so try and can we have a show to do
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    and so do we do it this way we still get
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    a lot of people get mentioned a lot of
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    people get their notes read and
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    sometimes more than others we do have
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    two executive producers and two
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    associate executive producers for
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    today's show we have we have
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    gender-balanced nice it's a nice nice
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    balance we start off with anonymous it's
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    $500 gentleman your work is graciously
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    greatly appreciated if you want to
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    credit my nightly name sir sir big third
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    leg third leg hmm third leg third feel
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    free but don't mention my real name
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    perhaps I will be in town for the
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    Atlanta meet I've keep up the great
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    analysis we read this note last time
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    he's followed by a note jingles no
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    nothing come on that's followed by Colin
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    Preston in Oregon City Oregon who sent a
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    check in and in a written note so we
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    finally got a check again yeah we've I
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    got some checks so good do you think you
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    think there was some kind of a that's
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    something do you think there was some
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    some kind of blockage in the system or I
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    find it to be peculiar I don't know what
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    well you know what comic strip blogger
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    says says donations are down because you
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    blocked him
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    I'm Twitter you did a whole comic strip
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    about it he did he did a cartoon yeah I
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    gotta see it yeah I've been listening
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    I'm sure it's very flattering oh yeah oh
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    it took me to believe me I've been
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    listening saying he wonders why he gets
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    blocked I've been listening since
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    episode 10 89 33 times 33 hmm do we miss
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    that when it happened
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    33 times 33 was 1089 I'm so sure we did
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    your media deconstruction is fantastic
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    and elevates my critical thinking skills
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    you have since become my primary source
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    of news we love hearing that by the way
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    it's good for your it's good for your
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    sanity that's for sure it's not not much
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    important stuff that you hear otherwise
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    yes your idea to lease the naming rights
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    of your studio is a moneymaker but the
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    terms need to be defined would it be per
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    show per week per month highest bidder
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    knights and dames only with multiple
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    sponsors be allowed per show I am a
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    small business owner and interested in
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    this prospect as I would rather give my
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    advertising dollars to you guys than to
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    some corporate firm mmm I have one point
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    one if we did naming rights of the
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    studio it would have to be in a monthly
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    basis otherwise it's just stupid it's
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    just too I'm a little concerned that he
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    that he views the a word there I don't
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    want to be advertising I'm a little
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    concerned about that I want I want
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    people to support the show because they
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    like the work and not because it's an ad
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    well it definitely needs more discussion
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    John he writes the white stuff that
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    oozes out of salmon during cooking has
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    to do with the temperature at which the
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    salmon is cooked it is harmless
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    unappetizing looking coagulated protein
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    and it only happens if you cooked the
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    salmon too hot Oh try cooking it at 225
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    to 250 Fahrenheit instead of the usual
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    350 well doesn't the O's come out slowly
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    the farm-raised salmon though it's not
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    healthy doesn't I think that just comes
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    out slower if you
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    if you cook it at 225 I had moments
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    where it doesn't come out please plug my
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    business practical fusion comm thank you
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    I know you just did that for me
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    I appreciate it good one practical
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    fusion dot-com dad www practical fuses
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    make sense for an american-made
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    stainless steel tank ranging in size
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    from 200 gallons to 2,000 gallons all
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    made here in Portland Oregon if possible
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    I'll claim the naming rights to Adams
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    studio for this episode please send an F
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    cancer jingled to my smokin hot wife for
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    her everyone out and everyone out there
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    who needs it okay thank you for your
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    courage keep up the great work sincerely
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    Colin thank you can see Thank You Colin
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    for reminding us we need to think about
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    the naming rights but there is some
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    apprehension here is the requested and
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    always effective you've got karma always
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    gets people focusing their energy on
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    effing the cancer mortar and mortar am
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    dama Doren damodaran DeMar DeMar DeMar
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    turret isn't this is a famous famous
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    family no is it yes three four five six
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    associate executive producer forgive me
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    pod fathers it's been many months since
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    my last donation but this one will take
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    me over to Dame hood however please note
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    that I had to PayPal accounts and
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    deleted one of them so my accounting is
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    not great but it's below in any case
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    just to recap I did 13 my location she
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    tells some some numbers here I would
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    like to be titled Dame Sheila the Lady
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    of Lisbon Oh Lisbon all right miss Bowa
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    the synchronicity of Adam coming to
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    Portugal and a donation from Coimbra on
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    the last show meant I knew it was time
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    to donate again I stopped for a while as
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    the synchronicity of Adam coming oh I'm
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    sorry my hump lines I stopped for a
  • 1:10:29
    while and me and my husband have spent
  • 1:10:31
    the last year building a house in spain
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    asturias to be exact in the far
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    northwest
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    which is just the opposite of the
  • 1:10:39
    country where you are we've been living
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    in Hong Kong for many years and knew we
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    couldn't manage the project from there
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    so we moved to Lisbon rather than to be
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    a text resident in Spain hmm after many
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    years without paying taxes legally I
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    might add we were weren't ready to
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    submit to Gitmo nation euro land just
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    yet so we took advantage of the
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    Portuguese nhr scheme non habitual
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    residence yeah you can consult the book
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    of knowledge if you're interested I
  • 1:11:04
    actually got this stack sent it to me
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    it's very similar to the US if you buy a
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    house of at least half a million dollars
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    or if you invest in a second home that
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    you'll rent out for three hundred and
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    fifty thousand dollars or if you invest
  • 1:11:19
    a million dollars in the company with at
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    least ten employees then you can come in
  • 1:11:23
    and you're good to go nice yeah it is
  • 1:11:27
    pretty nice controversial United States
  • 1:11:29
    because apparently a lot of Arabs and
  • 1:11:30
    other people are just buying to do
  • 1:11:32
    building stuff in New York and Qatar
  • 1:11:34
    well the word rent like you own the
  • 1:11:36
    place the word here is it's the French
  • 1:11:37
    the French are coming all over coming in
  • 1:11:40
    to Portugal and building and buying
  • 1:11:42
    everywhere used to be the Brits now it's
  • 1:11:43
    the French interesting well the price of
  • 1:11:48
    the the value of the of the pound is not
  • 1:11:52
    making it easy yeah it's been an
  • 1:11:56
    interesting ride my Spanish ain't great
  • 1:11:58
    my husband's is non-existent so Google
  • 1:12:00
    Translate and some helpful neighbors
  • 1:12:02
    have really been about getting that
  • 1:12:04
    little speaking to these please I've
  • 1:12:11
    really been our friend it says our
  • 1:12:13
    neighbors have been our friends but
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    luckily they're very friendly and
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    Portugal's one of the great countries of
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    associate they socialize a lot they love
  • 1:12:20
    it
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    yeah but luckily the house has turned
  • 1:12:23
    out okay there's a pic below I didn't
  • 1:12:25
    see that we're planning to use it when
  • 1:12:27
    we can and rent it when we're not dad
  • 1:12:29
    I'm your note about Portugal made me
  • 1:12:30
    laugh it really is the back end of
  • 1:12:33
    Europe perched on the edge of the
  • 1:12:35
    Atlantic and feeling in many ways like
  • 1:12:37
    time has stopped
  • 1:12:39
    although the influx of foreign money
  • 1:12:41
    from various visas apparently has really
  • 1:12:43
    look like time was stopped years ago
  • 1:12:45
    which you're not witnessing mm-hmm
  • 1:12:49
    anyway Lisbon probably
  • 1:12:50
    bah-bah-bah-bah-wee like get to know the
  • 1:12:52
    city quite well in some parts of it
  • 1:12:54
    really a time warp but as a soft landing
  • 1:12:56
    back into Europe after many years away
  • 1:12:57
    it's been kind the people are friendly
  • 1:12:59
    the younger ones speak excellent English
  • 1:13:02
    this is true as John says the wine is
  • 1:13:04
    good cheap and plentiful is sunny a lot
  • 1:13:07
    although grey and rainy today and it's a
  • 1:13:09
    day drive to our house which has worked
  • 1:13:11
    out well for us although I really miss
  • 1:13:13
    good Asian food yes well you know you
  • 1:13:16
    can cook it yourself this is here we had
  • 1:13:22
    some good meals and by the way
  • 1:13:23
    everything's everything soon to be Dame
  • 1:13:27
    Sheila said and let me add wine in a
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    tube that makes Portugal with wine new
  • 1:13:33
    tube makes Portugal fantastic listeners
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    out there I'd love to arrange a meet up
  • 1:13:40
    I reached there about two or three you
  • 1:13:42
    know we have we have we have a couple
  • 1:13:44
    they've all emailed me and in fact I
  • 1:13:47
    think we've gotten some special
  • 1:13:48
    treatment at the hotel thanks to some
  • 1:13:50
    back-channeling and one of our producers
  • 1:13:52
    that's nice yes very nice very very much
  • 1:13:56
    those immutable two that yeah they are I
  • 1:13:59
    really enjoy hearing about all the other
  • 1:14:01
    meetups and a very jealous should I just
  • 1:14:03
    go ahead list one it would be so great
  • 1:14:05
    yeah you can yes this would be so great
  • 1:14:07
    to meet some other like-minded people
  • 1:14:08
    here and and no jingles for me but can I
  • 1:14:11
    have some home rental and business karma
  • 1:14:13
    so we can continue living the dream
  • 1:14:15
    thank you both for keeping on keeping on
  • 1:14:18
    your show is a rare moment of sanity in