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1130: Troll Union

Adam Curry & John C. Dvorak

2h 55m
April 18th, 2019
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Executive Producers: MFDx, Sir Delliot

Associate Executive Producers: Jason Shiffer, Christopher Eisenhart, Sir Tim of the Tunnels

Cover Art by Darren O'Neill

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Chapters

0:00
Start of Show
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0:42
Mueller Time
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8:51
Notre-Dame Fire
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50:15
Gas Tax Discussion in Alberta Election Debate
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1:02:32
Finland General Elections
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1:05:30
Neodymium
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1:06:46
Inflation
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1:08:25
The Jimmy Dore Show: What Is Modern Monetary Theory And How It Works w/Stephanie Kelton
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1:14:22
Max Keiser on the Future of Bitcoin
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1:17:18
Credits
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1:31:56
Alex Jones Appearance on Impaulsive Podcast
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1:36:40
The Meme Union
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1:40:11
Vaccines
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1:57:58
Denver Schools Closed on Columbine Anniversary After Threats of a School Shooting
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2:09:35
Michelle Obama Compares Trump to a Divorced Dad
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2:11:31
Donations
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2:24:09
Birthdays & Title Changes
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2:27:07
Gimlet Media Podcast Studios
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2:28:59
Greta Thurnberg's Address to the European Parliament
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2:38:17
Nancy Pelosi Appearance on 60 Minutes
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2:40:53
Fox News Hosts' Obama Criticism Supercut
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2:45:57
Jimmy Kimmel Live: Can You Pronounce Buttigieg?
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2:48:04
Untitled
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2:50:02
End of Show
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    this is no agenda Adam Curry and from
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    northern Silicon Valley where I'm
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    pledging sixty billion dollars for the
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    restoration of the note freedom I'm John
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    Sita for you sir are such a
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    philanthropist yes and atop them there's
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    a bunch of toppers going on is become a
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    news item especially in Canada where
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    they mock the French oh really I'm
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    celebrating here what no it's more time
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    baby
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    Oh mulch are you gonna go to Muller
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    rather than the church
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    let's do Muller yeah I don't have any
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    Muller I mean I read all the Muller
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    stuff today and I said oh here we go
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    another round of Trump bashing cuz
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    there's a there's a very slight crack in
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    in the in the mortar so they're gonna go
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    after him what crack was there with
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    cracks the crack is that when molars he
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    says in the report apparently he says
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    that Trump said oh there's the end of my
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    presidency I'm toast or something like
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    that oh okay and so then he fought then
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    he told people to fire Muller and do all
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    this stuff that he never did he never
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    did but they figured that's good enough
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    hmm I do it the one clip I guess well
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    okay play what you're doing go go what
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    what what I get what I did is I got the
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    immediate responses right after bars
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    this morning
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    attorney general bar did a press
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    conference in which he kind of
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    reiterated what he already said I guess
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    and there were a couple of questions
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    you know I was watching I was monitoring
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    all morning people all GD also geo oh
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    boy
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    oh we can't wait forever so here this
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    was this was MSNBC is the only one
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    really worth listening to because it's
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    so you'll hear it and we have was it
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    who's the the NBC liar guy who was that
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    guy yeah all of them no no no Brian
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    Brian oh Williams Brian Williams that's
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    all of them Brian Williams with Nicole
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    Wallace who is in a turn I think you see
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    attorney
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    they should make old Wallace yeah I have
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    a feeling she's in it well most of those
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    people are attorneys anyway you'll hear
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    her first with her before she thought
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    the mic was open and then Brian and then
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    you'll hear what she has to say that was
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    extraordinary
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    I'm strong we are joined here by Nicole
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    Wallace and Neil Katya all I think a
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    conservative reading of what we just
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    witnessed is at the age of 68 bill Barr
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    has decided his legacy he is fine with
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    his legacy being the AG who took one for
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    the team
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    now what was the one thing MSNBC was
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    saying over and over and over again for
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    the past two years
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    the Trump campaign and Trump colluded
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    with the Russians to - that's it you
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    don't have to say anymore just colluding
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    with the Russians all right exactly that
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    is that's exactly right any collusion he
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    is fine with his legacy being the AG who
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    took one for the team well I think it
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    also explains why we haven't seen Sarah
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    Sanders in a while the administration
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    has a new face and a new messenger and
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    one with a lot more stature he's the
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    country's attorney general the most
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    extraordinary piece of that statement
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    was was twofold one around collusion I
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    think he said half a dozen times no
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    collision no occlusion no lawyer no
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    legal presentation presents its
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    conclusion six times a political
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    messenger and I know a little bit about
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    that having a political messenger all of
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    my career underscores the central
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    message particularly a political
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    messenger which I've been all my career
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    she's supposed to be a news person of
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    some sort but what she's literally
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    saying is only political operatives not
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    news people not attorneys only political
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    operatives will repeat something
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    incessantly Wow I think he said half a
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    dozen times no collision occlusion no
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    lawyer no legal presentation presents
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    its conclusion six times a political
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    messenger and I know a little bit about
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    that having been a political messenger
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    all of my career underscores the central
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    message particularly if it's on shaky
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    ground multiple times to use that room
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    to use that podium to underscore Donald
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    Trump's refrain on his twitter feed for
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    the last two years of no clusion was
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    just an extraordinary thing to witness
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    the second was on obstruction it's like
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    as a parent if you say yeah my kid
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    vandalized the school but he was
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    frustrated by having a hard time in that
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    came out instead yes Donald Trump may
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    have been obstruction II came into
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    office they were bugging him
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    they were bugging him about Mike Flynn
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    lyin they were bugging him about all
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    those contacts with brushes he was fresh
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    it was an extraordinary excuse we
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    finally see Robert molars report again
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    it's also the fifth presentation from
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    Bob Barr about a report we still haven't
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    seen yeah okay I just thought it was
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    funny that she's just can sit there with
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    a straight face and say anyone who
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    repeats something like that is clearly a
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    political operative yes Nicole Wallace
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    correct I can't find my CNN clip but it
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    was exactly the same why did he keep
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    repeating that it's not even a thing
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    collusion here's a snippet I took from
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    the CBS report the day before with it
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    which I noted it had an interesting skew
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    because they just can't read they just
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    can't get away from it
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    you'll see a lot of very strong things
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    come out tomorrow the president's
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    personal attorneys have prepared a
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    counter report to emphasize there were
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    no charges of collusion or obstruction
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    against the President or anyone else
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    there are reports tonight the Justice
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    Department and the White House have had
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    numerous conversations about the report
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    there was no collusion and there was no
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    obstruction in a summary released last
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    month Attorney General William bar said
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    Special Counsel Robert Muller did not
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    find evidence the president's campaign
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    coordinated with Moscow to influence the
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    2016 election and Barr determined there
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    was not enough evidence of obstruction
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    of justice angering Democrats tomorrow's
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    report could shed light on president
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    Trump's efforts to thwart the
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    investigation at a heavily redacted
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    version could fuel a bitter partisan
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    feud over the public's right to see the
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    results of Muller's work yeah so I think
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    most of the news outlets have probably
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    skimmed through most of the report by
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    now and I'm just not hearing anything
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    well yeah preparing it for the
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    you know four-star that late last when
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    they print well I look forward to to
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    reading and although it's a bit busy
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    tomorrow we're moving and Saturday I'm
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    rebuilding this hey this is what I do
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    this is part of what I do on the show
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    there might be some gems in there that
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    are overlooked doubtful I'm sure there's
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    stuff that's gonna be overlooked because
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    the media is not gonna if there's
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    anything even neutral they're not gonna
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    bother with it it's just gonna bitch
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    about the redactions no no no I think
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    the the now we're moving on to his
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    conduct its conduct well it's part of
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    the Trump rotation the cons that's
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    conduct yeah that's what I'm saying
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    we're back it's cause conduct it's not
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    presidential if he just started tweeting
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    I got several messages this past week
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    when not sure Dom was burning from the
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    Netherlands and pointing to pieces in
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    the press suggesting dropping water from
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    a water tanker play water Jack what a
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    moron and meanwhile it seems to be some
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    actual consideration that they had but
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    that was the people's first response not
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    to Dom was that sweet and I said well
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    they probably aren't prepared for cuz
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    only reason we have those because we get
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    these firefighers lots of these water
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    tankers but there are these helicopters
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    that carry on a big giant bucket and
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    then I realized when looking at one of
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    the pictures that the send river is
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    right there the helicopter could go down
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    and grab a big bucket full of water and
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    within just five seconds dump it on to
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    the end of the dock that was also anyone
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    who did that made those comments it's
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    not stupid is really a fool yeah yeah it
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    is a way of putting fires out after I'm
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    reliably informed yes especially when
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    that building is so big well I do have
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    did you had my cut did you catch this
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    Pacini yes of course I did I'm I'm
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    surprised you actually want to play
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    clips from that that I course I saw it
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    all right okay why would you think that
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    let's go over this just and analyze our
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    own
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    our decision-making okay by discussing
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    alright
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    the pachán ik thing which is off the
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    rails in terms of conspiracy but that
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    said I'm reading today's National Post
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    out of Canada and there's a long article
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    on the condemnation of what's going on
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    which was my my mocking it at the
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    beginning of the show there's all these
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    rich French guys every billionaire in
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    France is upping the ante and how much
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    money they're gonna contribute to fixing
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    this place which McCrone says he can do
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    in five years it'll take five years just
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    for the committee to come to a decision
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    please yeah you know that five years
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    we're analyzing our decision making
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    process yeah but so we're analyzing our
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    decision making process and it was a it
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    was a quote in here that convinced me
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    that is probably not a bad idea to play
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    the pitch in the pitch enok piece
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    because he just got he claims that there
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    was a false flag well let me tell it and
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    explain to you why I didn't want to play
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    it I think I can I think I have some
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    interesting clips that that can lead us
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    somewhere then and and because what
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    botanic does not say don't think is why
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    he thinks it was a false flag and also
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    the minute you come out and say this is
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    a false flag I think people stopped
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    listening I think they stopped listening
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    like any of they're like oh yeah oh sure
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    yeah I don't think so yeah we don't do
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    false flag crap we put Janek is
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    entertaining well that's for sure he's
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    very entertaining and the false flag
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    assertion in this regard and it's in
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    France so nobody you know okay false
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    play in France whatever I don't think
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    people oh no they're gonna play if
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    anybody turns out I did wanted to turn
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    off this clip because botanics going off
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    the deep end on this false flag idea I
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    don't think they're normal no agenda
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    listener alright
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    I'm I think I can come to the same
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    conclusion without you know I don't know
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    oh I see what you're gonna do is do a
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    false leg around about what we do okay
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    well I would say I would suggest now we
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    play poach anak I will
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    make my comment on why I think it could
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    have been mm-hmm based on pichan XD
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    psious then I want to hear yours okay it
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    may not be different but I think I have
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    a lot more data points than Oh Jenna
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    from the very beginning I said that
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    might call and we should probably say
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    for people who are new look up Steve
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    botanics Wikipedia page and you'll see
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    that he has an incredible list of
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    credentials in specifically
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    psychological warfare so he would be the
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    one to go to for stuff like this
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    a spoiled entitled child born to two
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    doctors and one is a neurologist the
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    other ones a general practitioner
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    internist that's quite an important
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    profession in France it's much tougher
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    to be a physician in France than it is
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    in the United States I know my father
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    was trained in France but more
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    importantly this was a young man who
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    avoided the draft consciously does this
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    remind you of anybody else who did an a
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    false-flag yeah Bush this comes from the
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    wealthy family he spoiled he avoided the
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    draft he's entitled he's narcissistic
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    and guess what he lies like a banshee
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    he's a sociopath he was trained by the
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    Rothschild family and became a
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    multimillionaire without any profession
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    or any companies that he started so we
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    have a president who I told you from the
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    very beginning is inept and what
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    happened well lo and behold they were
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    yellow vest riots all over because he
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    didn't know how to manage the economy
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    and secondly he increased taxes on fuels
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    most people complain about it already
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    they pay 50 s per six percent of the
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    taxes of their income to taxes and by
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    the way his popularity was 24% before
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    the fire and guess what it was 24% after
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    the fire so this is a man who created a
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    fire why do I say created a fire because
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    number one I have property right next to
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    the North field um number two I've been
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    in an alkyl down and they totally
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    discombobulated when they running a
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    service their kids running in and out
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    and they're gypsies and the police would
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    not let me stop them thirdly this was a
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    propitious fire just before Easter
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    Sunday you had a Catholic Church go on
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    fire this is an 800 year old symbol of
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    Christianity in a country which lost its
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    Christianity during World War one - and
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    its assassination slaughter of the Hutus
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    and the Tutsis so we have here a country
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    miscreants okay I like the way cuz of a
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    country of miscreants I don't know what
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    they what did the French have to do with
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    the the Rwanda situation the friend
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    there was a French colony know when this
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    was happening
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    mmm-hmm I don't know what he's referring
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    to he also he also makes implying is
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    implying the French for behind the
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    genocide is what he's implying but I
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    could do not have any I don't but I mean
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    why I don't know we shouldn't be
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    throwing this stuff and he does this
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    sort of thing he brings in stuff like
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    when he does his little arguments he
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    does for example he says McCrone
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    approval rating was 24 and then after
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    the fire guess what it was twenty forty
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    four so what I mean I don't understand
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    his regret what he's doing but okay he
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    goes he doesn't like the French it's
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    fairly clear
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    a coozer is a country of mystery he
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    lived he grew up in France you lived
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    there for many there's a lot of people
  • 15:55
    that don't like they're sure apparently
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    doesn't like the French but let's
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    continue and then listen and hear him
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    out and then I have a one quote I want
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    to bring in from the National Post this
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    is dr. Chen ik and let me get straight
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    to the facts there's Notre Dame fire was
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    a false but this is the same clip what
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    this is this is clip two when it starts
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    with the same thing flag most of you
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    know by now what a false flag is what he
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    before the fire okay maybe maybe you I
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    don't know what you did let me see if I
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    can find a second part he could not
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    manage them so you had riots he has
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    gotta be it's got to be 158 in
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    does that mean well this clip is 232 so
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    I don't know what I did wrong here
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    yeah create a false flag and who is he
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    tree miss cranes oh here we go okay
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    country of miscreants you didn't edit it
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    right it's okay no problem here we go
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    in turn he could not manage them so you
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    had riots he had anti-muslim feelings he
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    had high anti-semitism and in short you
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    had an economy that wasn't functioning
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    what do you do you create a false flag
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    just like Bush did in order to go to war
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    a unifier country you create a false
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    flag in this case lo and behold a day
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    before the fire Kurt and by the way took
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    23 minutes before the first responders
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    came to the fire and I've lived next to
  • 17:23
    no down I believe me if you see smoke
  • 17:24
    and fire you respond very quickly but
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    remember it took 23 minutes before the
  • 17:29
    first respondent and then what what's
  • 17:30
    happening a day before the fire twelve
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    of the major pasal that were in the
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    church as well as important window
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    coverings and rose-colored glass windows
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    were taken away from the church by
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    miracle the New York Times called it a
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    miracle by a company called Sakura sa
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    CRA which is a division of a major
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    company which you have no coordinates
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    for located in what we call the doll
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    dunya so the day before you travel six
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    to eight hours with these statues that
  • 18:05
    are the most valuable statues of the
  • 18:07
    church and somehow it's a miracle that
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    they were in the blaze so in fact what
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    we have here is a false flag created by
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    what we call in French la piscine the
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    swimming pool which is an affectionate
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    name for the devil or the second Bureau
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    or the what we call the intelligence
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    support of France so they worked
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    alongside of Macomb and guess who else
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    they worked alongside they worked
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    alongside my own colleagues in military
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    intelligence and in the CIA how do I
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    know because I got an email unsolicited
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    from one of my colleagues who said you
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    know my condolences on the fact that the
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    church is burning and I couldn't care
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    less
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    let me give you a famous quote Lewis
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    Tally Hall of Perigord the famous
  • 18:53
    foreign minister said the following to
  • 18:55
    be the grand manipulator you have to be
  • 18:57
    very efficient in manipulation denial
  • 19:00
    distortion and creating of crises the
  • 19:03
    one person who wasn't was matcom good
  • 19:07
    luck and good night all right so the
  • 19:10
    assertion the way I understood it is
  • 19:13
    there was we're now into week was it now
  • 19:17
    27 28 hmm maybe 20 yellow vests pairing
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    is that long is it yeah yeah oh yes
  • 19:29
    definitely no room will let us know it's
  • 19:33
    it's it's in the 20s buying a 23 next
  • 19:36
    week will be 23 so that's how long is
  • 19:37
    really that's quite public okay that is
  • 19:40
    a quite a long time and he's losing grip
  • 19:43
    on the country and the idea is create a
  • 19:46
    a 911 type event where in this case as
  • 19:50
    far as we know no one died but shock to
  • 19:53
    the system
  • 19:54
    yeah the only problem and let's just
  • 19:58
    take this assertion I'll stay on this
  • 20:00
    the only problem is we've had a lot of
  • 20:04
    vandalism in church in churches in
  • 20:07
    France right up to right right up to a
  • 20:11
    fire that just a week ago like another
  • 20:14
    raging fire in a different Church yeah
  • 20:16
    so there's a lot of these were tweeted
  • 20:18
    there's a lot of films of the sounds so
  • 20:20
    tons of it's tons of there tons of it so
  • 20:23
    church churches and friends have been so
  • 20:24
    the problem that he had in this event
  • 20:27
    let's go on this track I like this so
  • 20:29
    it's planned it's a false flag we got to
  • 20:32
    do this that it's a globalist move so
  • 20:35
    we've got to get all our buddies they're
  • 20:36
    not in on it you can't just do this in a
  • 20:38
    vacuum because we can't has we can't
  • 20:42
    have the burning of the nuts are dumb
  • 20:45
    unify the country if it's blamed on
  • 20:47
    Muslims which by the way the other
  • 20:49
    church desecrations were not blamed on
  • 20:53
    Muslims there's very little written
  • 20:57
    saying all this has got to be Muslims
  • 20:58
    doing this now is people who hate the
  • 21:01
    you know the France is pretty secular at
  • 21:03
    this point so there's not a lot of
  • 21:05
    accusation but that had to be quelled
  • 21:08
    and you may have seen the the Shepard
  • 21:12
    Smith interview and there's a second one
  • 21:15
    that I want to play and now having
  • 21:17
    worked at an organization that was very
  • 21:18
    similar to Fox News there or MSNBC or
  • 21:22
    CNN in the regard that word comes from
  • 21:24
    down uh hi it's either whenever you say
  • 21:28
    Michael Jackson you also have to follow
  • 21:30
    that by saying the King of Pop or don't
  • 21:33
    say material girl when you're
  • 21:35
    introducing Madonna I mean these kinds
  • 21:37
    of things these memos are out there and
  • 21:39
    I have to be you there's requirements or
  • 21:42
    otherwise those people will not show up
  • 21:43
    yeah they won't come to the mid to the
  • 21:45
    award show or whatever it is and I'm
  • 21:48
    hearing that Fox News which you know
  • 21:50
    again we've said that it's certainly run
  • 21:53
    by globalist if it's Democrats is a
  • 21:55
    different thing certainly run by
  • 21:57
    globalist we even have Paul Ryan now you
  • 21:59
    know going in there on the board of Fox
  • 22:03
    things are changing Donna Brazile is on
  • 22:06
    Fox
  • 22:07
    so Shepard Smith and this was odd to
  • 22:10
    start with gets an actual conspiracy
  • 22:13
    theorists on the phone
  • 22:14
    Philippe Carson T who Shepard Smith
  • 22:18
    identifies as an elected French official
  • 22:21
    which is not true the guy actually was
  • 22:24
    barred from running in in the elections
  • 22:26
    because such he's such a crazy whack job
  • 22:29
    and he's look at his Wikipedia page
  • 22:31
    conspiracy theorist tried to run he's
  • 22:34
    never been elected yet he's introduced
  • 22:36
    as an elected official the guy starts to
  • 22:38
    go into his rap and then Shep Smith
  • 22:41
    takes over
  • 22:42
    Felipe Carson T is on the line with us a
  • 22:44
    French elected official who is in Paris
  • 22:46
    now Philippe what what have you seen and
  • 22:51
    what do you know by the way I love how
  • 22:56
    Shepard Smith thinks that you need to
  • 22:58
    pronounce it like he's Mexican Philippe
  • 23:01
    now Philippe okay
  • 23:04
    he's not from Mexico what what have you
  • 23:08
    seen and what do you know well I loved I
  • 23:12
    was close to the sphenoid happened and
  • 23:14
    no I left the place because I want to
  • 23:17
    let people work around it everybody
  • 23:19
    really understand in France I would tell
  • 23:22
    you something it's um even if nobody
  • 23:25
    nobody died I mean it's like a 911 it's
  • 23:28
    a French 911 Hill and it's it's a big
  • 23:32
    shock I mean this shirt was there for
  • 23:35
    more than 850 years and even they're not
  • 23:39
    even in there to destroy it
  • 23:42
    and you need to know that for the past
  • 23:44
    years we had churches desecrated each
  • 23:47
    and every week in France all their
  • 23:50
    friends
  • 23:50
    so of course you will hear the story
  • 23:53
    abut the politically correct political
  • 23:57
    correctness which will tell you that
  • 23:59
    it's probably an accident sir sir sir
  • 24:01
    we're not going to speculate here of the
  • 24:04
    cause of something which we don't know
  • 24:06
    if you have conservation if you have
  • 24:09
    observations or you know something we
  • 24:12
    would love to hear it I'm just telling
  • 24:15
    you something what you need to be ready
  • 24:17
    no sir we're not doing that here not now
  • 24:20
    okay not on my watch Philippe car Cindy
  • 24:23
    it's very good of you to be here now a
  • 24:25
    couple things he's saying not here not
  • 24:27
    on my watch because this came from on
  • 24:30
    high
  • 24:31
    you will not connect Notre Dom to
  • 24:34
    Muslims and I think it was set up this
  • 24:37
    way specifically with Shepard Smith who
  • 24:39
    was not in not in the loop on this he's
  • 24:40
    just been told what to do let's make
  • 24:43
    sure the message gets out bring the
  • 24:45
    conspiracy ons conspiracy theorists on
  • 24:48
    he's famous in France for this tell
  • 24:50
    Shepard Smith he's an elected official
  • 24:53
    and then let's see Shep do his job of
  • 24:56
    saying no no no not on my watch no this
  • 24:59
    is Fox News if there was a conspiracy
  • 25:01
    they'd be all over that shit no no no we
  • 25:05
    carries on until later in the day Neil
  • 25:07
    Cavuto on the phone bill we don't know
  • 25:10
    what started this we need this is
  • 25:12
    Christian League president Bill
  • 25:16
    Donoghue who know the repercussions and
  • 25:18
    what has been left as a result of this
  • 25:20
    ruins and ruins that could could take
  • 25:23
    some time to fix and make right and you
  • 25:25
    never can make it as it was well you
  • 25:29
    know if it is an accident it's a
  • 25:30
    monumental tragedy but forgive me for
  • 25:32
    being suspicious just last month a 17th
  • 25:35
    century church was set on fire in Paris
  • 25:38
    we've seen Tabernacles knock down
  • 25:40
    crosses have been torn down we don't
  • 25:47
    know that he's already jumping ahead yes
  • 25:50
    we do this has been in every mainstream
  • 25:54
    report this is not as some conspiracy -
  • 25:57
    but kabuto already he's heard the
  • 25:58
    message he knows what to do don't
  • 26:00
    because we can't connect it to anything
  • 26:02
    very dangerous we don't know that we
  • 26:07
    don't know so if we can avoid what your
  • 26:09
    suspicions might be I do want to look at
  • 26:11
    what happens now there was a very pricey
  • 26:14
    rebuilding and renovation effort going
  • 26:16
    on that involved a good deal of Catholic
  • 26:19
    fundraising campaigns I know in this
  • 26:21
    country and abroad this renovation was
  • 26:24
    paid for upfront so in other words all
  • 26:26
    the money's were there and now I'm
  • 26:28
    wondering how much more the Catholic
  • 26:30
    Church commits to this or do you think
  • 26:33
    now they first want to get to the bottom
  • 26:35
    of it
  • 26:35
    well first they have to get to the
  • 26:36
    bottom of it and they will rebuild it
  • 26:38
    there's no question about that
  • 26:39
    they certainly the Catholic Church will
  • 26:40
    come up with the money for it that's not
  • 26:41
    even a question
  • 26:42
    but I I'm sorry I mean when I find out
  • 26:46
    that the Eucharist is being destroyed
  • 26:47
    and excrement is being smeared on
  • 26:49
    crosses but we cannot make conjectures
  • 26:54
    about this so thank you mom why can't he
  • 26:57
    do that this this is Fox News how could
  • 26:59
    I've never heard them say this we can't
  • 27:02
    have any conjecture or know where Fox
  • 27:04
    News we don't do that we don't
  • 27:06
    trafficking conspiracy theories bullshit
  • 27:10
    I love you but we cannot make
  • 27:12
    conjectures about this so thank you I'm
  • 27:15
    sorry thank you very very much
  • 27:17
    just gestures this is great sorry I did
  • 27:21
    just a concept that we cannot get
  • 27:23
    gestures he wasn't talking about
  • 27:25
    conspiracies would you which is implied
  • 27:28
    but he's not talking about conspiracies
  • 27:31
    he said we cannot make conjecture what
  • 27:35
    is that you ever listen to Fox precisely
  • 27:38
    I love you but we cannot make
  • 27:41
    conjectures about this so thank you mom
  • 27:43
    I'm sorry thank you very very much I do
  • 27:46
    want to let people know and again we're
  • 27:47
    not trying to be rude or guests here
  • 27:49
    there is so much we do not know about
  • 27:53
    what he says here now he's now he's just
  • 27:56
    talking about the memo we got do you
  • 27:57
    very much I do want what people know and
  • 27:59
    again we're not trying to be rude or
  • 28:01
    guests here there is so much we do not
  • 28:03
    know about what what happened here we do
  • 28:05
    know that about four hours ago something
  • 28:08
    started here now there there are
  • 28:09
    incidents that have been raised to get
  • 28:11
    together Church a lot of popular tourist
  • 28:13
    sites certainly in and around Paris no
  • 28:15
    stranger to attacks but it is another
  • 28:17
    leap to start taking views like that
  • 28:20
    when we don't know it's just baffling to
  • 28:23
    me I watched Fox News for the conjecture
  • 28:26
    are you kidding me so that made no sense
  • 28:28
    and that kind of plays into what pachán
  • 28:31
    ik is saying as this was meant to create
  • 28:34
    some form of unity to stop everyone in
  • 28:37
    the tracks and I think it was very
  • 28:38
    shocking that in an odd way like Tina
  • 28:42
    was very she said this is devastating
  • 28:44
    and we were just there three years ago
  • 28:45
    it I didn't have the same feeling but I
  • 28:48
    know a lot of people do that really
  • 28:50
    really it hurts it hurts for them to see
  • 28:53
    this fire in a beautiful building it is
  • 28:55
    true that the the north are dumb rooster
  • 28:59
    and other statues were taken from the
  • 29:02
    spire and the New York Times doesn't
  • 29:03
    Said's it the indeed they say it's a
  • 29:05
    miracle it's a miracle they took that
  • 29:07
    just in time I don't know if those
  • 29:08
    indeed were the most valuable but I had
  • 29:10
    no reason to doubt it now let's get into
  • 29:13
    what happened and how did this start and
  • 29:16
    we still don't have all the facts of
  • 29:18
    perhaps delayed response from the fire
  • 29:21
    department but there was a I have a clip
  • 29:24
    here from a presser yes about the very
  • 29:30
    late response of the
  • 29:31
    our department and something else we had
  • 29:32
    a press conference from the fire brigade
  • 29:34
    about an hour ago and we got a little
  • 29:36
    better timing a little bit alarming but
  • 29:39
    it also explains what happened basically
  • 29:41
    the first fire truck from the Paris fire
  • 29:44
    department I didn't arrived at the scene
  • 29:46
    for a half an hour a couple of reasons
  • 29:49
    for that and the proper truck that could
  • 29:52
    handle this kind of fire a big tall
  • 29:54
    gantry truck didn't get there for
  • 29:56
    another hour so imagine it I think all
  • 29:59
    of your viewers must have seen some of
  • 30:01
    those videos 90 minutes long this fire
  • 30:04
    was raging before the fire department
  • 30:07
    here could really get a handle on it a
  • 30:09
    big explanation of that how much damage
  • 30:12
    there was in the past day too we've been
  • 30:15
    seeing more inspections of the structure
  • 30:17
    thankfully despite all the damage the
  • 30:20
    actual building is structurally sound
  • 30:22
    they think the water has seeped into the
  • 30:25
    rock the water is seeped into the
  • 30:27
    remaining wood structure and it's going
  • 30:30
    to be several more days before they can
  • 30:32
    decide whether it is stable or not and
  • 30:34
    if it is stable then the inspectors go
  • 30:37
    in something like 50 of them and they
  • 30:39
    try to figure out exactly what caused
  • 30:42
    this fire we're hearing a new word that
  • 30:45
    the renovation being done was the was
  • 30:48
    the root of it there might have been a
  • 30:50
    sort circuit involved with the workmen I
  • 30:54
    heard one comment from from a neighbor
  • 30:57
    of the note radon saying that that
  • 31:00
    person heard a pop before the fire who
  • 31:03
    knows who knows what's happening and
  • 31:05
    that's the investigation that's going on
  • 31:07
    there was an interview on France 24 with
  • 31:10
    the guy he retired at the end of the 90s
  • 31:13
    but in the 90s he was in charge of awe
  • 31:15
    of all renovation complete new circuitry
  • 31:18
    and it's in French so it's with
  • 31:20
    subtitles but it makes me used to play
  • 31:23
    clip it's in the show notes
  • 31:24
    he said we put all new wiring in all
  • 31:27
    circuitry we had a very specific
  • 31:29
    security system that would alert Fire
  • 31:33
    Department fire department officials as
  • 31:35
    to what section of the church a fire was
  • 31:38
    in we had two people 24 hours a day
  • 31:41
    always in the church to
  • 31:44
    monitor these systems brand-new system
  • 31:45
    you said short-circuit is pretty much
  • 31:47
    anything can happen but he says that
  • 31:49
    doesn't seem very likely it was all new
  • 31:51
    or with it listen you know 15 years old
  • 31:53
    and it doesn't have to be that bad
  • 31:55
    secondly he says he didn't understand
  • 31:58
    how oak could catch fire so quickly I
  • 32:01
    don't know anything about wood but he
  • 32:05
    said if you need a lot of kindling to
  • 32:07
    get oak to really burn this is true I
  • 32:09
    burn a lot of wood for various reasons
  • 32:13
    in both the fireplace but also for
  • 32:15
    barbecuing oak is a bitch to get going
  • 32:19
    it's not as bad as eucalyptus but it's
  • 32:22
    pretty hard to get going so I don't know
  • 32:24
    anything about the colors that oak burns
  • 32:26
    but we were about two blocks away with
  • 32:29
    the smoke started to billow out and at
  • 32:33
    first we didn't know how serious it was
  • 32:34
    going to be because it appeared to be
  • 32:36
    kind of like that should be smoke and
  • 32:38
    then it quickly began to intensify
  • 32:41
    within about 20 minutes so we were there
  • 32:45
    just around closing time the last one
  • 32:47
    was at 6:45 and we noticed the smoke
  • 32:50
    coming out around 655 so about 20
  • 32:54
    minutes later it really got stronger it
  • 32:56
    turned green it turned orange and then
  • 32:59
    finally a dark black smoke and it was
  • 33:01
    very difficult to breathe initially I
  • 33:03
    started to get a little bit thingy and
  • 33:06
    we couldn't our nose the surface is such
  • 33:08
    a little bit so we decided to kind of
  • 33:09
    move to a bit further away if we could
  • 33:11
    so again I don't know anything about
  • 33:13
    wood I don't know if it would brother
  • 33:15
    orange Oh green is copper the oak
  • 33:19
    doesn't burn orange I don't know what
  • 33:20
    that is I don't burns like wood and it
  • 33:23
    doesn't have any of these
  • 33:24
    characteristics it's just in fact oak is
  • 33:26
    just for smoking so it's got a pleasant
  • 33:28
    smell well very pleasant to this guy
  • 33:33
    though I don't know anything about wood
  • 33:35
    I don't know anything about fires I do
  • 33:37
    know about computer systems and when I
  • 33:40
    hear that there's a computer system in
  • 33:41
    place a system that is intended that
  • 33:44
    it's new relatively new is intended to
  • 33:46
    alert the fire officials as to where
  • 33:49
    something might be going on in the
  • 33:51
    building when I hear these kinds of
  • 33:52
    reports this is when I'm ready to
  • 33:55
    okay we have a problem and oh by the way
  • 33:57
    you're not covering the problem Savannah
  • 33:59
    good morning Frances Prime Minister a
  • 34:01
    short time ago announcing an
  • 34:03
    international architects competition to
  • 34:06
    design the new spire that will sit atop
  • 34:09
    the Cathedral behind me meanwhile this
  • 34:11
    morning a police source is selling NBC
  • 34:13
    News that a computer glitch may have
  • 34:17
    initially sent security officers to the
  • 34:19
    wrong part of the Cathedral when that
  • 34:21
    fire first broke out
  • 34:23
    perhaps costing some precious minutes
  • 34:25
    nonetheless firefighters here are still
  • 34:27
    being precious Kilian efforts to save
  • 34:31
    notre dom whenever someone says a
  • 34:34
    computer glitch it's so unacceptable to
  • 34:36
    me bully especially in this chemist in
  • 34:39
    this context it's an unacceptable
  • 34:41
    explanation and so that would be the
  • 34:44
    place I would go looking first what
  • 34:47
    glitch what happened I think that just
  • 34:50
    throne is bullcrap no I don't think so
  • 34:53
    wouldn't that be fantastic have people
  • 34:56
    go to the wrong area wrong place you've
  • 34:58
    been in that church if it's givers we're
  • 35:00
    starting to burn I think that the knob
  • 35:03
    which started to fill up with smoke
  • 35:04
    there be some it took 23 minutes at an
  • 35:07
    hour before the real trucks got there do
  • 35:13
    computers got anything to do with
  • 35:14
    anything this the the alert system that
  • 35:18
    okay look I'm not gonna argue with you
  • 35:20
    because you don't know and I don't know
  • 35:21
    all I know is glitch is not acceptable
  • 35:23
    for something possibly sent firefighters
  • 35:27
    to the wrong section of the church I
  • 35:29
    think and I'm saying I think cuz I don't
  • 35:33
    know either
  • 35:33
    you're right because we need the word
  • 35:34
    cloud think that this is just one of
  • 35:37
    these things you it's always cool to put
  • 35:39
    in a computer reference to say it was a
  • 35:41
    glitch I don't think there was a
  • 35:43
    computer or a glitch
  • 35:46
    and I'm just basing it on the reporting
  • 35:48
    the way it's being thrown out there this
  • 35:50
    is kind of this is just miss reporting
  • 35:52
    everything what I didn't read anywhere
  • 35:54
    about this glitch oh it's all over the
  • 35:57
    place everyone's talking about it
  • 35:59
    glitch literally glitch just look up
  • 36:01
    notre dumb glitch be it being it would
  • 36:04
    be you know being it but I wanna do a
  • 36:11
    subtext thing here because we're
  • 36:12
    everything you're talking about if we're
  • 36:14
    dealing with globalists the evil
  • 36:17
    globalists it all sounds like globalists
  • 36:21
    yes yeah yeah give away the last one was
  • 36:26
    we're gonna do a spire a competition
  • 36:28
    spire global but it's not just a
  • 36:30
    competition it's a global one it's an
  • 36:33
    international competition that's a
  • 36:35
    global competition yeah get everyone in
  • 36:39
    on it yes and meanwhile don't look over
  • 36:43
    here this whole thing is guy global is
  • 36:50
    written all over it
  • 36:51
    wow man I'll be keeping the keeping that
  • 36:54
    Muslim thing out of the picture which I
  • 36:56
    didn't notice but to have what you do is
  • 37:01
    clips from Fox are very revealing
  • 37:03
    yes so why do you want to keep the ax
  • 37:06
    it's always great to have Muslim
  • 37:07
    speculation as it is entertaining no I
  • 37:09
    think and the news media loves to get
  • 37:13
    people all riled up so they bite more
  • 37:15
    papers and watch more and they get more
  • 37:17
    clicks on their websites so to push that
  • 37:20
    out of the picture it'd have to be from
  • 37:22
    on high and we had to keep that out of
  • 37:24
    there for some other reasons well I
  • 37:26
    would say that the Muslims take a video
  • 37:27
    date there was a riot in Denmark I think
  • 37:30
    let's let's look at that instead if we
  • 37:32
    want to deal with Muslims now I think
  • 37:34
    that did such a tinder tinder box in
  • 37:37
    France that if that message started to
  • 37:40
    be propagated that could create now all
  • 37:44
    you need make it worse yeah I don't I
  • 37:47
    don't think that's what they were going
  • 37:48
    for they were going for hey let's calm
  • 37:51
    everybody down
  • 37:53
    you know let's get everyone in line here
  • 37:55
    stop burning Paris well it tastes it
  • 37:59
    does take pachie Anika's right it takes
  • 38:02
    pressure off because the yellow vests
  • 38:05
    thing is massive the people that are
  • 38:08
    stepping up to the plate to donate which
  • 38:11
    is a which has become an issue because
  • 38:14
    the donors list is getting bigger and
  • 38:16
    bigger they apparently couldn't get a
  • 38:17
    lot of money to to maintain the know
  • 38:20
    trade on but now to rebuild a debt
  • 38:22
    session yeah if the globalists jump in
  • 38:24
    let's do it it's all globalists yes then
  • 38:26
    the main guy that there was bitching
  • 38:28
    about is Francis richest man mmm-hmm and
  • 38:32
    as what is his name Bernard Arnault
  • 38:35
    who is the head of that LVMH yes Louie
  • 38:41
    Vuitton male Hennessy this is one of the
  • 38:42
    largest corporations global corporations
  • 38:45
    mm-hmm they have Holdings everywhere and
  • 38:48
    this is all globalist stepping up to the
  • 38:51
    plate showing that the globalist
  • 38:52
    billionaires can handle this week and if
  • 38:55
    it wasn't for globalists and a
  • 38:56
    billionaire globalist class no one would
  • 38:59
    want to fix this thing of course this is
  • 39:00
    getting to be back lashing out because
  • 39:03
    it looks like all these virtuous
  • 39:05
    globalists are all virtuous signaling
  • 39:08
    them yeah we can get more money than you
  • 39:09
    it's like one of those auctions that you
  • 39:12
    talked about a couple shows ago or the
  • 39:15
    Napa Valley wine auction where everyone
  • 39:17
    does they're not buying wine they're
  • 39:18
    showing off that they can dollars for a
  • 39:21
    bottle of that downer dollar wine yes
  • 39:23
    yeah that's what's going on this is the
  • 39:26
    globalist problem yep yep yeah it's
  • 39:32
    it's where's the Pope has you come out
  • 39:34
    and said anything yet this has been
  • 39:36
    brought up on all over the place where's
  • 39:39
    the Pope where's the Pope's been read in
  • 39:42
    and told the shut up hey Pope shut up
  • 39:46
    man
  • 39:47
    which is my guest he's also a globalist
  • 39:49
    the Pope is global it's a total global
  • 39:51
    message from Argentina Jesuit globalist
  • 39:54
    he doesn't know what to do I guess he's
  • 39:57
    just beside himself you know I can't lie
  • 39:59
    because he's the Pope hmm it's a good
  • 40:02
    one these are the donations to the
  • 40:04
    church they would be tax-deductible yes
  • 40:08
    I think some another boondoggle yeah no
  • 40:12
    this is a benefit to some people not to
  • 40:15
    the pizza not to the poor people that
  • 40:18
    want to go into Notre Dame and wander
  • 40:19
    around have you you've been in a million
  • 40:21
    I've been in a lot I've nothing in a
  • 40:22
    million times it's not for people who
  • 40:25
    feel are gonna miss out go to Chartres
  • 40:29
    just outside of Paris and there this
  • 40:31
    church is better and bigger and it's
  • 40:34
    more interesting but I went out did you
  • 40:37
    ever get to go up under the roof of the
  • 40:38
    Notre Dame I managed to do that no I
  • 40:40
    didn't do that
  • 40:40
    yeah I did it's a pain in the ass and I
  • 40:43
    want to express the experience so people
  • 40:45
    know what they're missing first of all
  • 40:47
    there's a stairway that goes up to the
  • 40:48
    roof that is about two feet wide to get
  • 40:53
    into it and the steps are huge they're
  • 40:54
    like a two feet up each one and then
  • 40:56
    people are coming up and down the same
  • 40:59
    cramped horrible stone stairway which
  • 41:03
    goes up about four stories up and down
  • 41:06
    at the same time it's it's
  • 41:08
    claustrophobic and if you get out your
  • 41:10
    fear relieved so you get out and you go
  • 41:14
    in there's an area you can wander onto
  • 41:15
    and sit on the roof and people are doing
  • 41:17
    this oh it's usually about 25 people on
  • 41:19
    the roof sitting there so you've gone
  • 41:22
    through this horrible trial to get up to
  • 41:25
    the top and then you go on the roof and
  • 41:26
    you sit there and you look out and you
  • 41:29
    think to yourself okay now what you got
  • 41:34
    to go down and you realize that you're
  • 41:36
    on the roof you can stay there as long
  • 41:38
    as you want but it's like there's
  • 41:40
    nothing to do you're just sitting on the
  • 41:42
    roof like an idiot I
  • 41:45
    full tower so you go up take your
  • 41:46
    picture like the elevators walk okay and
  • 41:55
    then you note but when you're coming
  • 41:56
    down it's actually easier because you
  • 41:58
    have to take these big steps you don't
  • 42:00
    it's just this for some reason it's
  • 42:02
    harder or I guess it would be always
  • 42:03
    harder to walk up stairs and down but
  • 42:05
    but when you're coming down you know the
  • 42:07
    you know the routine and then you you
  • 42:08
    but into people and you stick your
  • 42:10
    button their faces are going down it's
  • 42:12
    horrible it's I would do not recommend
  • 42:14
    the roof to anybody after doing it well
  • 42:17
    that's not necessarily this advice yes
  • 42:20
    it's lost very very unnecessary the
  • 42:23
    story so people don't feel bad about it
  • 42:25
    not doing it and well we'll see I mean
  • 42:29
    cathedrals this was classified because
  • 42:31
    he's a church or a cathedral what's the
  • 42:32
    difference is it a cathedral well here's
  • 42:35
    the question this is a good question and
  • 42:37
    we should probably look it up because
  • 42:39
    there's a cathedral in Auckland called
  • 42:41
    the u.s. the Oakland Catholic is the
  • 42:44
    Oakland Cathedral it's called it's a
  • 42:45
    Catholic cathedral and it's absolutely
  • 42:47
    beautiful it's one of them but prettiest
  • 42:49
    churches in the west coast it's
  • 42:51
    extremely small I think a cathedral
  • 42:56
    relates to its size at some point cos
  • 43:00
    Chapel Church Cathedral I think it's
  • 43:03
    just a bits of volumetric a decision and
  • 43:06
    I know I know Nicole there's a good
  • 43:10
    novel I think it's just a big church no
  • 43:12
    a church is a house of worship a
  • 43:15
    building in which Christians gather to
  • 43:17
    perform the rituals of their religion
  • 43:18
    and interact with one another and hold
  • 43:20
    religious functions a cathedral is a
  • 43:23
    church which is also the seat in the
  • 43:26
    bureaucratic sense more than a literal
  • 43:28
    sense of a bishop okay so there's a
  • 43:30
    bishop involved is there is was there a
  • 43:32
    bishop in this church oh there has to be
  • 43:35
    must be a bishop so then it would be a
  • 43:36
    so it's a it's a it's an HQ yeah okay
  • 43:40
    it's true it's cute that's probably a
  • 43:42
    cancer the fact that the Oakland
  • 43:43
    Cathedral is so small because there must
  • 43:47
    be a mission it's got to be a bishop
  • 43:49
    bishop is but there's a bishop there and
  • 43:51
    he probably thinks to himself I get the
  • 43:54
    smallest damn thing in the country here
  • 43:56
    why am I stuck here
  • 43:58
    and it's Auckland but these things take
  • 44:00
    forever to build I mean it's like and
  • 44:03
    they're never done well that one and
  • 44:05
    there's one still being built I think
  • 44:07
    it's for I don't know how many go do
  • 44:11
    familia that's that thing they're still
  • 44:14
    building that done expected to be done
  • 44:23
    75 years earlier than initially planned
  • 44:25
    because so many tickets have been sold
  • 44:27
    because people liked it so they could
  • 44:30
    but you know we're talking seventy-five
  • 44:32
    years and I don't know what micron is
  • 44:34
    talking with us five years of rebuilding
  • 44:36
    not if they're going to do an
  • 44:38
    international design competition yeah
  • 44:42
    well I don't know what I mean it's
  • 44:45
    Puccini might be right your might be
  • 44:49
    right I mean it's if there's a lot of
  • 44:52
    this very fishy but everything that
  • 44:54
    happens is fishy well for sure it's
  • 44:57
    being steered away from Muslims and I'm
  • 45:00
    also not so sure it's Muslims
  • 45:02
    desecrating all these churches I mean
  • 45:03
    there is not as I've found no report
  • 45:06
    that concludes that concluded that the
  • 45:09
    thing is we have to mention hmm that if
  • 45:13
    it's usually not a lone-wolf Muslim
  • 45:15
    because they usually kill themselves or
  • 45:17
    something where it happens yeah and if
  • 45:20
    it's a group a terrorist group they
  • 45:22
    always they love taking credit and
  • 45:24
    they'll take credit for something took
  • 45:26
    credit for Las Vegas shooting that
  • 45:28
    nobody wants to pay any attention to
  • 45:30
    right they said they said three times we
  • 45:33
    did we don't think you did it we did it
  • 45:37
    so they always take credit for some of a
  • 45:40
    Muslim group burnt them no trade on and
  • 45:43
    if there's you know there's some
  • 45:44
    connection the Middle East and some more
  • 45:46
    terrorism and Pakistan they would have
  • 45:50
    jumped up and said something and there's
  • 45:52
    been no reports of this so we have to
  • 45:54
    assume I'm assuming that this is a
  • 45:56
    consistent policy it's a policy that if
  • 46:02
    they didn't take credit because they
  • 46:03
    don't I guess they don't like to lie
  • 46:05
    about these things because maybe another
  • 46:07
    group did it and then they get into a
  • 46:09
    beef foot down as though every wheel
  • 46:12
    as the weeks and months passed by we'll
  • 46:14
    find out a lot we'll learn a lot about
  • 46:16
    fire we'll learn a lot about what it
  • 46:18
    just seems like you know this is you
  • 46:20
    need to get this fire started
  • 46:23
    you know the idea of a casually a
  • 46:27
    cigarette butt cast aside is ludicrous
  • 46:29
    it's just ludicrous hit a stone building
  • 46:32
    yeah it's a I read accident I know you
  • 46:37
    know no arson involved but no they can't
  • 46:40
    how can they even know takes a while to
  • 46:41
    do this right away I was watching the
  • 46:44
    first repair the French Quarter of
  • 46:46
    course and who they say that I learned
  • 46:50
    just from he listened to these reports
  • 46:52
    are you this was oak yes these beams
  • 46:56
    mm-hmm I don't know where they got that
  • 46:58
    oak from because the size of those beams
  • 47:00
    is ridiculous we use in the United
  • 47:03
    States for giant beams we use old-growth
  • 47:06
    redwood which is still being cut down
  • 47:09
    occasionally for some certain situations
  • 47:12
    and they may have to replace the oak
  • 47:16
    with redwood because you can get that
  • 47:17
    size of beam in redwood not oak it could
  • 47:21
    be an international effort California
  • 47:23
    gives its red area for you that's nice
  • 47:25
    for Idaho oh it provides a lot of the
  • 47:29
    big old growth uh but ultimately
  • 47:32
    ultimately what is going on who's
  • 47:34
    calling me stop this you're supposed to
  • 47:36
    call me during the scam likely sure
  • 47:38
    ultimately yeah it's just a building was
  • 47:45
    a symbol of a lot of I wouldn't Claude
  • 47:47
    just a building well I'm sure for
  • 47:50
    tourists a lot of buildings are symbol
  • 47:53
    these tourists when it go in - no okay
  • 47:58
    so oh I'm sorry it was just a tourist
  • 48:01
    attraction well you could say that it's
  • 48:06
    very I think it's uh glib but it's not
  • 48:12
    just a building
  • 48:13
    yeah but every muscle hold every
  • 48:16
    building has has a history or a symbolic
  • 48:19
    to somebody somehow you know and it
  • 48:21
    sucks okay now well then we'll get build
  • 48:24
    another one built
  • 48:25
    you know it's like what is it what is
  • 48:27
    what does it really symbolizes it
  • 48:29
    symbolize the end of Christianity this
  • 48:31
    is I've heard these types of things and
  • 48:33
    I'm just not agreeing with this it's a
  • 48:35
    building that burned Christianity
  • 48:36
    remains actually the building looking at
  • 48:39
    the after is all said and done it's
  • 48:41
    really only the middle that burnt out
  • 48:42
    which had the wood yeah the rest of its
  • 48:45
    pretty much intact
  • 48:46
    now although there's some worry about
  • 48:47
    the is it like pushed the thing it could
  • 48:51
    be a limestone could and by the way the
  • 48:55
    Christianity in France is pretty much
  • 48:56
    over in most of Europe yeah when I when
  • 49:01
    I was growing up in the Netherlands
  • 49:02
    there were churches everywhere people
  • 49:05
    went to church I went to church it was
  • 49:07
    normal and then it just kind of started
  • 49:10
    to fade away it went away and the
  • 49:11
    churches became schools or became you
  • 49:14
    know other types of uses so it's
  • 49:19
    symbolic in that regard I think for some
  • 49:22
    form of you know it's all symbolism it's
  • 49:26
    all symbolism so yeah there's an
  • 49:29
    artistic value - I'm just being
  • 49:31
    pragmatic you know it's like I'm sure
  • 49:32
    people like Oh duh but seriously it's
  • 49:35
    just a building that's some sad but it's
  • 49:38
    building and build another one yeah well
  • 49:42
    I'm not of that opinion meanwhile yeah
  • 49:47
    but you can't actually tell me what it
  • 49:49
    is other than a tourist attraction so
  • 49:50
    okay it's lots of buildings are tourist
  • 49:53
    attractions the capital in Austin is a
  • 49:55
    choice the trash the trash is a symbol a
  • 49:57
    symbol of what symbol of long-forgotten
  • 50:02
    past it's a historic is a historic
  • 50:06
    artifact okay now stay with that alright
  • 50:14
    we have a number of other things going
  • 50:17
    on quite a few actually they sound
  • 50:19
    played mm-hmm denoted on took over
  • 50:23
    everything to go over the new sec except
  • 50:25
    in alberta oh what's going on
  • 50:28
    canden Avia what's happening there only
  • 50:30
    this show work is gonna give this is a
  • 50:32
    major event that took place in Alberta
  • 50:35
    ah a
  • 50:38
    a new guy became the premier he'd
  • 50:41
    knocked out this woman and Kenny this is
  • 50:43
    literally just right hook knocked her
  • 50:45
    out yeah
  • 50:46
    not Lee was her name she was a and the
  • 50:49
    parties have changed as a new party the
  • 50:50
    United Conservative Party formed from a
  • 50:54
    offshoots of the Wildrose Party and the
  • 50:57
    Progressive Conservative Party Canada
  • 50:59
    has a lot of parties and so they had
  • 51:02
    this so what's happened is the L
  • 51:04
    Burton's which are suffering the most
  • 51:06
    from all this climate change the carbon
  • 51:11
    tax yes there's a carbon tax it was
  • 51:14
    imposed and well hold on let's just
  • 51:16
    remember Canada is warming up twice as
  • 51:19
    fast as the United States so you know
  • 51:21
    they really needed to do something yeah
  • 51:23
    because heaven forbid it gets warm up
  • 51:25
    there yeah we don't want it to come down
  • 51:27
    here so they're all up there all bundled
  • 51:30
    up moaning about global warming and
  • 51:34
    believe me of all the provinces Bellbird
  • 51:37
    is up there with the coldest so this guy
  • 51:40
    ran it pretty much the United
  • 51:43
    Conservative Party is a very
  • 51:44
    conservative party David even though
  • 51:47
    it's new but they're offshoots a very
  • 51:51
    consistent style conservative it's an
  • 51:53
    Alberta also the oil province yes it is
  • 51:56
    the oil and oil shale right and oil oil
  • 51:59
    sands all that stuff important context
  • 52:01
    people live off of that in Alberta let's
  • 52:04
    listen to the de pre-election debate now
  • 52:07
    I have one two three four five short
  • 52:11
    clips one of them is a little long which
  • 52:13
    was the good one wishes they get into an
  • 52:15
    argument which is cool but it starts off
  • 52:18
    with Kenny going on and on about the
  • 52:22
    taxes and I this is a very boy this is
  • 52:24
    the boringest of the clip he's to get
  • 52:26
    one and it's not until he comes back
  • 52:28
    with his other arguments that he's
  • 52:29
    interesting and I could just soon skip
  • 52:32
    that but let's just say he sits there
  • 52:34
    and bitches about his costing Canadians
  • 52:37
    you know a lot of money a year because
  • 52:40
    of this this gas taxes carbon tax it's
  • 52:43
    not even against it's actually testing I
  • 52:45
    want to do some math here and give you
  • 52:48
    some ideas of what this tax is this
  • 52:50
    taxes
  • 52:51
    I think it's 27
  • 52:52
    twenty-eight cents a leader and which
  • 52:55
    amounts to an American cents if you were
  • 52:58
    going to the pump it would be a but
  • 53:00
    before yeah I'm over a dollar yeah over
  • 53:03
    a dollar in other words one day your
  • 53:05
    gasoline is three dollars a gallon or in
  • 53:08
    case of California right now four
  • 53:10
    dollars for three dollars a gallon in
  • 53:12
    Texas there'd be shootin it's 2:35 which
  • 53:16
    is expensive here - you're at 235 weird
  • 53:19
    four dollars so now all of a sudden
  • 53:21
    you're 235 goes to 335 yeah that'd be a
  • 53:24
    problem and ours goes to five yeah you
  • 53:29
    know not everybody is you know it's just
  • 53:32
    happy with this sort of thing and so
  • 53:34
    it's caused a problem in Alberta and all
  • 53:37
    these everyone talks a big game about
  • 53:38
    global warming but then you start taxing
  • 53:41
    doing this bullcrap carbon tax which
  • 53:43
    does nothing for global warming it's
  • 53:45
    just a tax I mean what how does it what
  • 53:48
    every for every gallon of gas you buy we
  • 53:50
    don't have to we don't have to debate
  • 53:51
    the effectivity of it and more it's the
  • 53:54
    fact that it is is possibly what started
  • 53:57
    the fire in France so you know these
  • 53:59
    gasoline taxes are problematic and
  • 54:01
    that's the connection so let's skip
  • 54:04
    candy going on about what a gyp it is
  • 54:07
    which is what I just did
  • 54:08
    and go to Notley this this blonde woman
  • 54:11
    who is looks like she's just been run
  • 54:15
    through the mill because she used to be
  • 54:17
    very pretty and she's gonna do her
  • 54:19
    comeback here this is not Lea - well you
  • 54:23
    know what our plan has already reduced
  • 54:25
    greenhouse gas emissions by seven
  • 54:27
    megatons and to put that in in amounts
  • 54:30
    that people can understand that is
  • 54:31
    one-third the annual emissions of the
  • 54:34
    whole province of Manitoba so we are
  • 54:37
    taking action to phase out coal
  • 54:39
    emissions and breathing cleaner air
  • 54:41
    already now the fact of the matter is is
  • 54:44
    that mr. Kennedy's numbers on savings
  • 54:46
    actually ignore the rebates that we are
  • 54:49
    giving to families it also ignores the
  • 54:51
    fact that our plan is paying for flood
  • 54:53
    protection in the City of Calgary for
  • 54:55
    the LRT for for the Green Line and for a
  • 55:00
    growing and exciting renewable energy
  • 55:04
    industry which had been
  • 55:06
    to fail for 20 years and so we're making
  • 55:10
    incredible progress we just can't afford
  • 55:12
    to go back thank you Miss Notley mr. man
  • 55:13
    coughs so exciting renewable energy
  • 55:16
    sector so exciting so she goes on with
  • 55:19
    this bullcrap nobody's buying it
  • 55:21
    she got wiped out by the way it was a
  • 55:23
    landslide but there's two other
  • 55:26
    candidates that we're running in both of
  • 55:28
    them they they picked up no but I don't
  • 55:29
    first I can tell they picked up no new
  • 55:31
    members or anything it was just a joke
  • 55:33
    the one guy which is the next guy is
  • 55:35
    Mandel he is the Alberta party so it's
  • 55:40
    like some another Canadian party it's
  • 55:44
    localized and he actually is a
  • 55:46
    conservative in essence and he blasts
  • 55:49
    certain kind of sides with kinney I
  • 55:51
    think he helped Kenny's cause thank you
  • 55:54
    one of the challenges with the program
  • 55:55
    is it's going to take almost two and a
  • 55:57
    half two and a half billion dollars out
  • 55:59
    of the economy and it's gonna go into a
  • 56:01
    slush fund and if more money's collected
  • 56:03
    what's going to happen it's then going
  • 56:05
    to general revenues it's true reality is
  • 56:06
    it's almost except with the word you
  • 56:08
    should call it maybe a sales tax but
  • 56:10
    it's a it's a carbon tax the fact that
  • 56:13
    matter is his Albertans are suffering
  • 56:15
    right now we have one of the worst
  • 56:17
    periods of economic times we've had in
  • 56:19
    the province history and yes you give it
  • 56:21
    back to two-thirds of the people so a
  • 56:23
    third of the predator to the population
  • 56:24
    is well we're responsible for all the
  • 56:26
    carbon reduction the other two-thirds I
  • 56:27
    guess they don't care they don't have to
  • 56:29
    worry about it because they get all the
  • 56:30
    money back but what about the businesses
  • 56:32
    that have to pay there's so many
  • 56:33
    businesses problems that are suffering
  • 56:35
    they have all these additional costs and
  • 56:37
    that's where the carbon tax is having a
  • 56:39
    trend negative impacts left on this
  • 56:41
    topic thank you I want to bring mr. Khan
  • 56:43
    in first place now everybody in Canada
  • 56:47
    says fact of the matter constant really
  • 56:50
    or right now they do it'll change it
  • 56:53
    morphs over time well hopefully yeah so
  • 56:56
    then now they bring in this guy who is
  • 56:57
    the the representative the Liberal Party
  • 57:00
    this is not the same party as the NDP
  • 57:05
    which is the notley's Party NDP is a new
  • 57:09
    democrat party which is kind it's a
  • 57:12
    liberal party but it's not the Liberal
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    Party the Liberal Party is Trudeau's
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    party mm-hmm
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    and this con guy who's a what's his next
  • 57:20
    Asian what's his name he conned
  • 57:22
    something gone mm-hmm so con comes on
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    with the most out races I had to do a
  • 57:30
    sub clip because when you hear what he
  • 57:32
    has to say it was hinted at by this
  • 57:34
    other guy who says that they know you
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    yeah we're gonna collect the tax from
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    you but then you're gonna get it back
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    where you gonna get all of it back
  • 57:41
    that's the point it collecting it seems
  • 57:43
    to me but okay listen to what this guy
  • 57:45
    has to say the alberta liberal plan is
  • 57:47
    the only plan that in which we care
  • 57:50
    about the economy and the environment
  • 57:51
    that's why our plan would return all
  • 57:54
    carbon tax revenue every last cent to
  • 57:58
    consumers and businesses that are paying
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    for it so that they're not hurt but they
  • 58:02
    are still encouraged to reduce carbon
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    emissions because then they can actually
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    make money when they have tax rebates
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    and tax cuts so we're the only party
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    that's actually serious about both the
  • 58:11
    economy and the environment i think
  • 58:13
    people that were looking at mr.
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    mandela's party will be very sad to see
  • 58:17
    that they have they clearly have no plan
  • 58:20
    to reduce climate change except for
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    talking about canola producers and
  • 58:24
    hybrid cars this is not a way to address
  • 58:26
    climate change and albertans know that
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    we've got to have a plan but we want a
  • 58:31
    plan that doesn't hurt our economy that
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    doesn't hurt albertans in the pocketbook
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    but encourages people to reduce carbon
  • 58:37
    emissions and that's what our alberta
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    liberal plan is one minute left i recall
  • 58:42
    we discussed this this idea that yeah
  • 58:45
    we're levying a tax but we give it back
  • 58:47
    to you is is bizarre well listen to it
  • 58:54
    in close-up this is the con
  • 58:56
    deconstruction of that lot one little
  • 58:58
    clip that's why our plan would return
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    all carbon tax revenue every last cent
  • 59:04
    to consumers and businesses that are
  • 59:06
    paying for it so that they're not hurt
  • 59:07
    but they are still encouraged to reduce
  • 59:09
    carbon emissions because then they can
  • 59:11
    actually make money when they have tax
  • 59:13
    rebates and tax cuts
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    you can make money by paying this tax
  • 59:18
    because you can get more bad way you can
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    get more tax money back is that is that
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    the idea apparently the idea is you pay
  • 59:28
    the tax oh I see what is then you have
  • 59:29
    to do certain things like jump through a
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    hoop of fire you have to walk to school
  • 59:34
    take the take the bike and then once
  • 59:37
    you've checked off all the boxes then
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    you can get some of it back and if you
  • 59:40
    do more if you're a really good doobie
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    then you might get extra is that the
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    idea I'm I'm guessing that has I don't
  • 59:46
    know but I'm guessing what you said has
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    to be the idea cuz otherwise it just
  • 59:52
    makes zero sense but what and I think
  • 59:54
    you're right what is the point of taxing
  • 59:57
    somebody and then giving them the money
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    back it's control yeah there's control
  • 1:00:01
    control over the people say do this and
  • 1:00:03
    you'll get your money back don't do this
  • 1:00:05
    mmm so it's already a dollar and now
  • 1:00:09
    there's now that now the last clip is
  • 1:00:11
    they did the Kenny and a woman not Lee
  • 1:00:16
    Rachel Rachel the two of them get into a
  • 1:00:20
    back and forth because he throws
  • 1:00:22
    something out there that is that
  • 1:00:23
    apparently is a scheme that she's
  • 1:00:26
    denying which is that they yeah they're
  • 1:00:28
    gonna give you your money back now but
  • 1:00:29
    then they're gonna increase it another
  • 1:00:30
    67% mm-hmm there's some talk about this
  • 1:00:33
    I don't know they detail someone elbert
  • 1:00:35
    didn't listen to this show might tell me
  • 1:00:36
    and if they do that they're not gonna
  • 1:00:38
    give you any of that back so they're
  • 1:00:39
    gonna Jack the bigger to make gasoline
  • 1:00:41
    unaffordable and I mean there's no dying
  • 1:00:44
    me this was a foregone conclusion when
  • 1:00:46
    this election ran this guy was just
  • 1:00:47
    gonna knock her out of the park but
  • 1:00:50
    listen to the little back-and-forth we
  • 1:00:52
    get here is kind of entertaining his
  • 1:00:56
    plan will actually accelerate climate
  • 1:00:59
    change he wants to take the cap off of
  • 1:01:02
    oil sands emissions a plan which
  • 1:01:06
    actually many energy leaders support he
  • 1:01:09
    wants to get coal back online and extend
  • 1:01:12
    the life of coal so that our air gets
  • 1:01:14
    dirtier and our kids have more trouble
  • 1:01:16
    breathing this is not a vision for the
  • 1:01:19
    our major look where the matter is that
  • 1:01:21
    we need to be able to go forward making
  • 1:01:24
    progress on combating climate charities
  • 1:01:25
    that consolidation mister can future
  • 1:01:27
    general
  • 1:01:31
    it's about your meters will affect coal
  • 1:01:35
    production a premier I thought you told
  • 1:01:37
    us you were against the cap on the oil
  • 1:01:39
    sands because your ally Justin Trudeau
  • 1:01:41
    hadn't got a pipeline bill have you are
  • 1:01:43
    you switching back you just talked about
  • 1:01:44
    carbon oh sorry rebates premier but
  • 1:01:47
    you've announced that when you raise the
  • 1:01:48
    carbon tax by 67 percent actually not
  • 1:01:51
    really not there will be no increase in
  • 1:01:56
    spending no by the way premier we will
  • 1:01:58
    carry over things like the LRT and the
  • 1:02:00
    flood mitigation to the to the budget
  • 1:02:03
    for infrastructure but finally we will
  • 1:02:08
    ensure that no government can introduce
  • 1:02:10
    a carbon tax in the future without going
  • 1:02:12
    through Albertans in a reference so we
  • 1:02:14
    can never have this kind of dishonest
  • 1:02:17
    politics where the NDP foisted this on
  • 1:02:18
    Alberta with the Alberta that bullshit
  • 1:02:27
    doesn't just happen here huh that's good
  • 1:02:29
    to know that apparently is exactly the
  • 1:02:30
    same yeah well Finland just had an
  • 1:02:35
    election which was being touted in the
  • 1:02:39
    press as I'll read the headline here the
  • 1:02:42
    West's first climate election leaves
  • 1:02:45
    Finland deeply divided as everyone's
  • 1:02:50
    gonna have these climate elections
  • 1:02:52
    people should that's why I've wanted to
  • 1:02:54
    play these Alberta Clips yeah because
  • 1:02:56
    the are not one major news outlet in
  • 1:03:00
    this country and I and including the New
  • 1:03:03
    York Times I looked at the New York
  • 1:03:04
    Times I couldn't find it in there he's
  • 1:03:06
    discussing this and this is a major
  • 1:03:08
    major event besides the fact that this
  • 1:03:11
    kinney guy could become a prime minister
  • 1:03:13
    under he has to become a House of
  • 1:03:15
    Commons member but he could do it I made
  • 1:03:17
    this been done this is a major because
  • 1:03:21
    this is only I mean there's a lot of
  • 1:03:23
    other issues between the Conservatives
  • 1:03:24
    and the Liberals in Alberta a lot of
  • 1:03:26
    them are kind of funny including the the
  • 1:03:30
    schools requiring two out there when
  • 1:03:34
    they find this student joining that this
  • 1:03:37
    is a funny bit they if a student joins
  • 1:03:39
    the Gay Straight Alliance
  • 1:03:41
    his parents have to be told women the
  • 1:03:44
    Gay Straight Alliance what is that it's
  • 1:03:47
    some club that's the rage and kitten
  • 1:03:50
    rights contradiction in terms
  • 1:03:52
    I know it makes notes and alliance
  • 1:03:54
    between the gays I'm sorry oh it's the
  • 1:03:57
    Gay Straight Alliance and then what the
  • 1:03:58
    the parents need to be informed of this
  • 1:04:00
    if you joined the Gay Straight Alliance
  • 1:04:02
    yeah one of the high schools is you're
  • 1:04:04
    still a high schooler your parents get
  • 1:04:07
    informed to let you know that your son
  • 1:04:09
    is in the game Straight Alliance this is
  • 1:04:12
    big scandalous there one way or the
  • 1:04:13
    other I want is dumb compared to the
  • 1:04:16
    point is is dis elections about one
  • 1:04:18
    thing and it's the stupid carbon
  • 1:04:20
    everybody yeah yeah yeah we're all were
  • 1:04:23
    all in on global warming whatever just
  • 1:04:25
    work this is it this is what every
  • 1:04:28
    election is about this is what and by
  • 1:04:31
    the way I I pasted a nice run down from
  • 1:04:35
    cervando helm who lives in Finland about
  • 1:04:39
    the bullcrap of this climate election
  • 1:04:41
    which is completely untrue let's see
  • 1:04:43
    that's just made up it's not even true
  • 1:04:46
    but that's what everyone needs to hear
  • 1:04:49
    the Dutch election is coming up or well
  • 1:04:51
    we have the the the the EU election
  • 1:04:53
    that's that's what's next and everyone's
  • 1:04:55
    all in on the climate change in the dike
  • 1:04:58
    knee I follow the Dutch politicians and
  • 1:05:00
    it's the climate change versus they're
  • 1:05:02
    not climate change it's it's another
  • 1:05:04
    thing to hang people's hats on the game
  • 1:05:06
    power yes and it's just and I think you
  • 1:05:10
    can get so far with this the climate
  • 1:05:12
    change climate change this vote for
  • 1:05:13
    climate change which is dubious but when
  • 1:05:16
    you add the one dollar a gallon carbon
  • 1:05:20
    tax see what happens and that's what's
  • 1:05:22
    going on in Canada and this is I think
  • 1:05:24
    Canada is a front-runner I think this is
  • 1:05:26
    what's gonna happen everywhere once they
  • 1:05:28
    once they start extracting your money
  • 1:05:30
    well this is your beat and and as you
  • 1:05:34
    specifically a Canada as you pay
  • 1:05:37
    attention to the rollout of their
  • 1:05:42
    renewable energy industry keep a sharp
  • 1:05:45
    eye on where they're getting their neo
  • 1:05:47
    diem from for the for the wind turbines
  • 1:05:53
    which is Nitin you need for the magnets
  • 1:05:55
    now mining neo diem creates radioactive
  • 1:05:59
    waste and not just a little bit it's a
  • 1:06:04
    very it's a toxic situation didn't
  • 1:06:07
    surprise me this for making very
  • 1:06:09
    high-powered magnets which is what you
  • 1:06:11
    want it was what you need is what you
  • 1:06:13
    need yeah
  • 1:06:15
    for those looking it up any ody Mei um
  • 1:06:20
    neo diem yeah well it's the same thing
  • 1:06:25
    here there's no difference it's the
  • 1:06:26
    green New Deal it's another power play
  • 1:06:28
    by you know certain people just to get
  • 1:06:31
    something going and everyone's jumping
  • 1:06:33
    on it not even knowing what they're
  • 1:06:35
    talking about just to oh yeah we need a
  • 1:06:36
    green new deal or just give me the power
  • 1:06:39
    I'll take care of it it's so cynical
  • 1:06:42
    really very cynical so the gas price in
  • 1:06:48
    Texas has gone up by 20 25 cents so long
  • 1:06:56
    so 10% 10% in the past I'd say six weeks
  • 1:07:00
    yeah and I think it's just inflation
  • 1:07:04
    that's debt to me it's just pure
  • 1:07:06
    inflation I saw the numbers are deficit
  • 1:07:10
    we're printing money like crazy to me is
  • 1:07:14
    they oh that's got to be inflation we
  • 1:07:16
    should see the same with food we should
  • 1:07:17
    see the same with everything I think
  • 1:07:19
    we're in an inflationary issue here in
  • 1:07:21
    the United States I don't know anything
  • 1:07:23
    about it because I'm not on that d-h
  • 1:07:25
    unplugged show but what else could it be
  • 1:07:28
    it's not taxes well if it's not tax as
  • 1:07:32
    well as price of oil supposed to have
  • 1:07:34
    something to do with it but the price of
  • 1:07:35
    oils since pretty stable yeah now if you
  • 1:07:39
    take a look at and I always recommend
  • 1:07:41
    people do this inflation rate in this
  • 1:07:43
    countries around 2% and if you
  • 1:07:46
    officially thank you I don't if you take
  • 1:07:48
    a look at shadow stats calm I bet you
  • 1:07:51
    they put it closer to 7 no it's closer
  • 1:07:54
    to 10
  • 1:07:56
    well that's exactly what I said 10% in
  • 1:07:58
    six and six weeks that's an annual
  • 1:08:01
    figure the 10% but it doesn't surprise
  • 1:08:03
    me
  • 1:08:03
    we're printing money it's the new mana
  • 1:08:06
    it's new monetary theory well modern
  • 1:08:09
    monetary theory sorry I got it wrong
  • 1:08:11
    modern monetary they just print away
  • 1:08:12
    it's fine well they're not it means yeah
  • 1:08:15
    it's not money more money in circulation
  • 1:08:17
    it's just it's paperwork it's it's money
  • 1:08:22
    on it's money on the books okay well you
  • 1:08:25
    know what let's just take one moment
  • 1:08:27
    we're running late anyway I happen to
  • 1:08:30
    have Bernie Sanders economic adviser and
  • 1:08:35
    professor of economics stephanie kelton
  • 1:08:37
    and I think I got this from the Jimmy
  • 1:08:40
    Dore show and she explains modern
  • 1:08:42
    monetary theory there definitely is a
  • 1:08:45
    big divide in terms of the way different
  • 1:08:48
    economists approach you know how
  • 1:08:50
    government can be influential in the
  • 1:08:52
    economy you talked about trickle-down
  • 1:08:54
    economics this is you said traced back
  • 1:08:57
    to Ronald Reagan that is for sure
  • 1:08:58
    correct so the idea being that the tax
  • 1:09:01
    cuts go mostly to the so-called job
  • 1:09:03
    creators so you have to skew the
  • 1:09:06
    benefits to the people that we most
  • 1:09:08
    Revere the people who will go out and do
  • 1:09:11
    the big spending into the economy hire
  • 1:09:12
    workers and give that big boost Kayden's
  • 1:09:15
    tend to be I think associated more with
  • 1:09:18
    big government spending but you could be
  • 1:09:21
    a Keynesian and also be in favor of tax
  • 1:09:24
    cuts but you would want to see tax cuts
  • 1:09:26
    that are skewed like you said to the
  • 1:09:28
    people who you can put more money in
  • 1:09:30
    their pockets and they'll go out and
  • 1:09:32
    spend and a tax cut would be just fine
  • 1:09:34
    thing to do if you were putting more
  • 1:09:37
    money in the hands of the pockets of the
  • 1:09:39
    people who are the real job creators and
  • 1:09:41
    in our economy the real job creators are
  • 1:09:43
    the American consumers because that's
  • 1:09:45
    where this is interesting this this is
  • 1:09:48
    what made me understand mmt modern
  • 1:09:51
    monetary theory the idea is the people
  • 1:09:53
    who create jobs are not people who are
  • 1:09:55
    entrepreneurs and start businesses in
  • 1:09:58
    fact I think it's podcasters in our
  • 1:10:00
    economy the real job creators are the
  • 1:10:02
    American consumers because that's where
  • 1:10:05
    most of the demand comes from I said it
  • 1:10:07
    it's you it's
  • 1:10:09
    me it's regular old people who make less
  • 1:10:12
    than a million dollars a year and spend
  • 1:10:16
    virtually everything they get so if you
  • 1:10:18
    give a extra you know a bit of money to
  • 1:10:21
    those folks they're gonna turn around
  • 1:10:23
    and spend virtually all of it back into
  • 1:10:25
    the economy creating demand for the
  • 1:10:27
    goods and services that our businesses
  • 1:10:29
    produce they get swamped with customers
  • 1:10:31
    their revenues go up their profits go up
  • 1:10:33
    and lo and behold they decide I better
  • 1:10:35
    hire some more people I need to invest
  • 1:10:37
    some more because I'm swamped with
  • 1:10:38
    demand for my stuff so that's a pretty
  • 1:10:41
    Keynesian way to do it it's just I think
  • 1:10:43
    we've come to believe over time that
  • 1:10:46
    Republicans are always the party that
  • 1:10:48
    favors tax cuts and Democrats are always
  • 1:10:50
    the party that favors more government
  • 1:10:52
    spending and mmt kind of comes in and
  • 1:10:55
    says actually both would work provided
  • 1:10:58
    that you're spending on things that will
  • 1:11:01
    materially boost economic activity they
  • 1:11:04
    are not boondoggle projects you're doing
  • 1:11:06
    good types of spending into the economy
  • 1:11:08
    providing things that people actually
  • 1:11:10
    value and that will lead to some job
  • 1:11:13
    creation and if you want to do some tax
  • 1:11:15
    cuts as well that's okay too but make
  • 1:11:17
    sure the tax cuts go where they'll do
  • 1:11:19
    the most good in the economy and that
  • 1:11:21
    means to the people who will turn around
  • 1:11:23
    and spend virtually everything and not
  • 1:11:25
    turn around and pad their 401ks buy more
  • 1:11:28
    real estate buy more shares of stock and
  • 1:11:30
    the like so the idea is give more money
  • 1:11:32
    to the consumers and they will start to
  • 1:11:36
    spend that like crazy on all the
  • 1:11:38
    important things they don't need and
  • 1:11:39
    that will create jobs yes and consumers
  • 1:11:44
    like buy more junk from China and
  • 1:11:46
    there's a there's apparently no downside
  • 1:11:49
    to printing all this money yeah so
  • 1:11:51
    that's why the federal government could
  • 1:11:53
    afford to do both to spend more into the
  • 1:11:56
    economy and also provide some additional
  • 1:11:58
    tax cuts if it wants to sort of create
  • 1:12:01
    more jobs and see more activity because
  • 1:12:04
    unlike a household it can spend more and
  • 1:12:06
    take in less at the same time and still
  • 1:12:09
    end up alright whereas if you and I went
  • 1:12:12
    around
  • 1:12:13
    take fewer hours this week I'm not gonna
  • 1:12:16
    work as much I'm gonna let my hours fall
  • 1:12:18
    and my income will go down and oh by the
  • 1:12:19
    way I'm gonna spend more as well we'd
  • 1:12:21
    run into real problems but because the
  • 1:12:24
    federal government isn't like a
  • 1:12:25
    household it isn't like a city like
  • 1:12:28
    Detroit it's not like Puerto Rico it's
  • 1:12:31
    not like the state of Kansas the federal
  • 1:12:33
    government is where the money comes from
  • 1:12:35
    so because you know and everybody
  • 1:12:38
    actually deep down in their schools you
  • 1:12:40
    know this she says first of all she says
  • 1:12:45
    is not like Detroit it's not like she's
  • 1:12:48
    Puerto Rico she starts naming all these
  • 1:12:50
    failed ideas and then she chose in the
  • 1:12:53
    state of Kansas here why not I mean deep
  • 1:12:59
    down in their Court
  • 1:13:00
    they know this everyone knows that the
  • 1:13:04
    that Congress has the power of the purse
  • 1:13:06
    we use the term the power of the purse
  • 1:13:09
    and somehow he just sort of don't
  • 1:13:11
    connect the dots and come to fully
  • 1:13:13
    appreciate what that means which is that
  • 1:13:15
    they can never run out of money and we
  • 1:13:18
    can that's Bernie's economic adviser
  • 1:13:24
    yeah with this whole justice Democrats
  • 1:13:34
    operation yeah with their what are you
  • 1:13:37
    gonna do who how you gonna pay for it oh
  • 1:13:39
    we'll just pay for it just printed it's
  • 1:13:41
    no problem we do a couple that they have
  • 1:13:42
    the purse the purse is never empty they
  • 1:13:44
    don't seem to understand there is a that
  • 1:13:49
    the economic system based on capitalism
  • 1:13:50
    which capitalism capitalism ease
  • 1:13:53
    capitalism is about capital means money
  • 1:13:55
    it's a money-based economy that you you
  • 1:14:01
    have to have the money at some point