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January 6th, 2019 • 2h 44m

1101: Tippie-Top

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as you said like a Lebanese merchant
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Adam curry Johnson 1101 this is no
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agenda Silicon Valley where it's raining
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it's raining its global warming I'm John
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Steed abour oh boy it's raining oh my
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goodness what are you gonna do in
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California I don't know there's water
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pouring out of the skies it's the end of
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global warming's apocalypse oh wait look
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we know since the 18-49 people have been
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writing about the hellhole that is
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California yep nothing new nothing new
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and we missed the Zephyr holy bash
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second show thee of the year already
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missing the Zephyr
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I hear that too for coming and it's
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rolling round the bend
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you've inspired people John inspire
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people
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hello hello I said you inspire people
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and you were just very quiet I was
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laughing who was it with the Johnny Cash
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flow that's who do you think it is it is
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it is our drunken Chris yes because I do
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that voice man he did a whole end of
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show song for us and see Matt did this
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one
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you know long after we are gone these
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songs will still be floating around the
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internet they won't know or know why wow
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man
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2019 back in the day those guys were
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weird weirdos what is this zephyr they
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keep talking about come on let's get
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back in my flying car yeah that'll be
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the day is yes before we start we have
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travel advisories from the United States
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State Department travel warning for
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Americans going to China be careful but
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also travel advisory for Italy terror
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advisory no less yeah terrorist groups
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continue plotting possible attacks in
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Italy terrorists may attack with little
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or no warning
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that's how it works massive terror
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attack in Italy that affected the
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tourists I think I you know I sent this
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to Willow who lives in Florence that's a
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actually Thea's oleh outside of Florence
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and she said oh this is because of our
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art a whole government they're putting
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fear into everybody and somehow that's
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trickling up or through or whatever
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that's what she said
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says it makes no sense they make sense
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at all but I do like how the State
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Department formulates it terrorists may
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attack with little or no warning really
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this is a revelation yeah they gave lots
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of warning told people with the
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neighborhood is gonna be and they were
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when they were gonna attack how they
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were gonna attack and what day they may
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be targeting tourist locations transit
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transportation hubs marketing or
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shopping malls markets or shopping malls
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local government facilities hotels clubs
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restaurants places of worship parks
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major sporting and cultural events
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educational institutions airports and
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other public areas when was the last
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time in Italy that any of those places
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were targeted by terrorists I don't know
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I don't know
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never mm-hmm no they've had stuff go on
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in Italy they've had problems that's
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usually that's damn blown up a church
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hmmm places of worship yeah maybe a
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mosque
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yeah well that's also a place of worship
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yeah well I mean that me that would be a
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target for some of the terrorists who
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hated the other sect but I'm not buying
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it huh well I found this week - or this
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weekend to be a little tougher even than
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Christmas as people still were just
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really weren't quite back and you know
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there was I think there's a lot of
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people on furlough and to pull out to
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the post office to get the mail there's
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like five pieces there said the usual
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tan 115 cows that were suffering again
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yes checks and but I mean it comes
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Avenger let me let me just get this
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right so the furlough or the partial
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shutdown as it's called is hurting the
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show directly
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yeah I think so because people get do
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our people that listen to this show
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that's dead donate yep
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they get a check in fact we probably
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when we probably have more government
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listeners than we realize probably and
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probably more of them not donating than
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we realize that probably is a little bit
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but I think we don't think it's just a
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direct connection I think a lot of it's
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just a the overall connection because of
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the slowed down of everything and
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they're trying to snap out of the
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holiday season and all that sort of
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thing right yeah DC girl who would know
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says payroll goes in on the 9th and
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payday is or is not the 11th so that's
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that's when that's the real date when it
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starts to get difficult for people
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I I must say Oh Trump says it could go
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on for years that's not exactly what he
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said I watched his I watched his Rose
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Garden appearance which I thought was
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one of yours I thought when it was it
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was one of his better appearances he was
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very calm he was reasonably coherent he
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didn't have a lot of the a world thing
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but me didn't have a lot of that Bob
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took questions did another one of those
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fun hey you know shall I keep asking me
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one you got more questions so I keep
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this going a little bit you guys like it
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even through a question to that
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what's-her-name from the the black radio
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network
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I have no you're not Anna Navarro but
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the other one you know what I'm talking
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about yes you do enjoy
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no no she's MSNBC no from the the April
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Ryan oh god the work yes and she had an
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okay question and he's a no good
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question he was like he was happy
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everyone was nice and and he was kind
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although as I'm watching some watching
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it I'm thinking in my head he's bringing
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in so first of all we just kind of
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change the wall to Bay can be steel it's
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American steel area area but steel so be
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good for American companies okay
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interesting and then he brings dhaka
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back in he literally said I want people
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to come in and have a pathway to
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citizenship we need the people he said
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all these things and I'm thinking maybe
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this wall maybe this five point six
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billion five billion is just is just
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kind of a no maybe he's going for a full
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immigration deal
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who knows they just it just kind of hit
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me like just going for something bigger
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I was gonna now analyze it correctly
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whatever he's up to he in his rose
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garden statement he did make it very
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clear he has a he has his fallback
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position yes good so first let me know
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when you get tired I'm not have you
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considered using emergency powers and to
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grant yourself authorities to build this
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wall without congressional approval and
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second guess I have to go you have yes I
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have and I can do it if I want so you
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don't need congressional approval to
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build no we can use them absolutely we
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can call a national emergency because of
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the security of our country absolutely
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no we can do it I haven't done it I may
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do it I may do it but we can call a
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national emergency and build it very
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quickly and it's another way of doing it
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but if we can do it through a negotiated
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process we're giving that a shot so is
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that a threat hanging over the Democrats
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I never threaten anybody
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hmm alright the only promise since when
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but the best part and if I had had a
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beverage in my in my between my lips it
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would have been spewing throughout the
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throughout the common-law condo and it
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kind of fits in with this Trump the
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stock whisperer because whenever he says
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oh well you know you might want to buy I
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don't know I think it was just a glitch
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in the system it's yeah the market went
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up a thousand points the marked the
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trading day after he said that do you
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recall he was saying he was pissed off
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about the price of oil he'll he's done
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that a number of times well he did heat
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address this specifically in his Rose
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Garden speech now all of this stuff is
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changing now this is a fair deal this is
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a good deal for Mexico frankly oil
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companies and other companies have an
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incentive now to go to Mexico and take
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away lap and that's why we're keeping
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gasoline prices so low you look at
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what's going on with gasoline prices
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I mean it's rather incredible if you
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look back four months ago oil hit 83
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dollars
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eighty-three it was heading to a hundred
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and then it could have gotten to a
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hundred and twenty-five you want to see
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problems let that happen after I made
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some phone calls to OPEC and the OPEC
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nations which is essentially a monopoly
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all of a sudden it started coming down
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I'm very happy with what's happened and
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I'm very happy that people are paying a
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lot less in many cases than $2 a gallon
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for gasoline you look at what's
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happening everyone's talking about
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didn't happen by luck it happened
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through talent and I believe it in this
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case I totally believe that I believe
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whatever talent he has he pulled it
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together and said I had
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this whole cash OB thing let's start by
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lowering the price that's written us
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down a bit you guys are pissing me off I
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just thought was funny talent I got it I
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got to learn how to say that myself the
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show isn't just good because it's
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because talent yeah it's hard to pull
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off he does it in the way he does it
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it's like you know it's just like
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they're just like a kicker at the end of
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it at the end the end of an Origin the
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clip is a good clip it was very very
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funny did you have any wall clips you
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have anything I got a couple related
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wall clips you know it's just the wall
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was tedious more house action so he
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started he started this mmm on brightest
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Friday and did it his first ever
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appearance in the briefing room first
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ever appearance in the briefing room
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ball he divided want to point something
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out this was I think I may have a clip
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about that but this was pointed out by
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every this is more important than
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anything that these these networks and
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democracy now and the rest of them all
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the same it's like all I got is the
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first appearance ever ever and I think
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he'd I don't believe that's true but
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okay let's say it is and then they said
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he just he just told the press what he
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wanted to tell him he's he called the
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briefing and he told him what he wanted
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to tell him and then he didn't take any
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questions what kind of a briefing is
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that it's a briefing all right that was
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the first appearance of President Donald
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Trump so significant for that factor
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however he also he did not take
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questions I want to discuss this with my
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panelists members of this Union the
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national of national Border Patrol
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Council which endorsed him in during the
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campaign so these are current and
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retired Border Patrol agents right these
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represent Border Patrol agents not the
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Border Patrol we're and he has them
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behind him but it's just pulling the
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spotlight back to the White House and to
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his point of view but it's he didn't
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even take questions oh no it doesn't
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really explain I think if the Democrats
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can make their point and it was
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there they also say they bill kristol
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this guy has fallen so low to be sitting
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on the panel discussing whether the
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president's have this we have a
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continuing resolution for the Department
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of Homeland Security for a month we will
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debate the border issue meanwhile we
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have these six other agencies of the
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federal government that you are closing
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down and holding hostage and we're
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willing to pass bipartisan
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appropriations bills for those I think
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it's a very hard argument for some
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consistent by not addressing it right
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and we need a wall thank you to be clear
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this is basically this is a stunt I mean
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this isn't a briefing so we thought
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there was going to write a briefing is
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questions a briefing is questions you
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heard it here first briefing is
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questions why are you arguing with Bria
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Brie on don't argue with her
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she's the worst a briefing is questions
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you don't even know who she is
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am I wrong here's my question regarding
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this if it's Bria free if so much of the
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country is really up in arms about this
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it really really wants this wall may or
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may not be true but before you go on
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before you I want to stop and and read
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you the definition of a brief word
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briefing hmm does it include questions
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no Oh a meeting for giving information
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or instructions that's one to the
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actions of informing or instructing
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someone has nothing to do with questions
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and answers press conference nothing
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like that it's a briefing and everybody
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including that clip you have was up in
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arms about this a last minute briefing
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that that was done a briefing right a
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briefing is questions yeah no so that's
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all they could argue about is whether it
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was a briefing or not was really
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interesting but I'm thinking if people
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really want this we apparently
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the capability in America to mobilize
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millions of people with pussy hats and
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you know we can get people on the
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streets and they go down to DC how come
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this doesn't happen for something as
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incredibly as important as the wall why
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isn't that happening I see that's almost
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my question I mean is it only the left
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with pussy hats who can organize is the
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right that left is the ones who go on
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the streets
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well why doesn't the right do that if
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it's if it's life or death
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right when the right does that as and
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case in point would be the tea party
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they actually would go out into the
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street they tend to be elderly or older
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yes and there are young ones in that
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group but then they started usually go
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on the street with any sort of signs
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that are need to even reflect mirror
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reflect the kind of signage that they
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have on the left they're called a bunch
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of Nazis and that's why they don't want
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to cut it down so they can't go do
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anything hmm but the left are then
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called an anti fob by the right and then
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you can make an article those anti far
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you're right well I just think if its
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life or death people would take to the
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streets I'd hope they would but they're
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not so you just gotta wonder right
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actually do it when they're
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conservatives right the old farts and
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everybody else takes to the streets for
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over something it's not gonna be pretty
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but this wall issue is is about two
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things one is just not giving Trump what
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he campaigned on that's definitely part
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of it and the other leverage for 2020
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and it's it's also leverage for a real
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immigration deal which includes some
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pathway to citizenship which the
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Democrats desperately want that's that
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is that's what that's their position and
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Trump was talking about this in his
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speech he's saying look well first of
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all put more money into the into the
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regular ports of entry where people are
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overstaying their visas which I hope
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would mean an exit stamp which is what
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every country in the modern world has
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the track of people ever left
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yeah and he's talking about pathway to
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citizenship I think something much
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bigger may come out of this and I don't
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know who this person is Cheri Bustos
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she's apparently congresswoman from
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Democrat for Illinois even heard of her
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I've never heard of her
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well she is also the chairperson of the
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DCCC and she explains what that is in
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this clip and just listening to her I
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think there's a lot of room and I think
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they may be further down the path than
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the press wants us to know where is the
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room for a deal well the room for a deal
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is that there's got to be some
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give-and-take it's I worked in the
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private sector my entire career before
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coming to Congress in fact I was a
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journalist for 20 I almost cooked almost
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20 years almost AIDS
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why don't we know where if she was a
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journalist for 20 years this is bugging
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me well look looking and then we're just
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under 10 years but as you know when
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you're not on camera when you're working
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with your producers and your
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photographers and all of that you know
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you got to have a little give-and-take
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and if we are unwilling to do that we
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will not improve the way this place I'm
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standing in the US Capitol right now we
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will not improve
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the way Congress functions and you know
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with or up to me I would go into a room
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I'd lock the door and say we're not
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going to leash until we open up the
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government again it is not that hard and
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I think one of the point worth making
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the the wall that President Trump has
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talked about now for many years because
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this was a defining theme when he was a
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candidate it is nothing more than a
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symbol if you look at it from this
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perspective if we have a partial wall if
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we have fencing if we have technology
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used to keep our border safe all of that
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is fine but it has just become this
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symbol that the president is not having
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any give or take when it comes to this
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five billion dollars so you said there
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needs to be give-and-take and then you
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said that you are supportive or at least
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open to the idea of a partial wall
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fencing technology is that the give here
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are you willing to give some additional
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funding beyond the 1.3 billion for a
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partial wall fadna I hadn't even heard
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this 1.3 billion number yet that
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Schumer's number he said that's what
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he'd be willing to give for the wall or
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fencing but none of us for the wall it
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was for border security now I think or
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technology well keep in mind I'm not
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sitting at that table doing the
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negotiating I mean I'm running the
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Democratic Congressional Campaign
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Committee it means I have a seat at the
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leadership table but you have a vote in
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Congress and you are a member of
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Democratic leadership and people are you
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know you've got four votes for Speaker
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and I don't mean to diminish that people
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listen here's what is this four votes
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for Speaker
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fifteen members of the House refused to
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vote for Nancy Pelosi the votes okay got
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scattered around I got things are you
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saying that that is where you believe
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Democrats should give I believe that
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when we are looking at many issues
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whether it pertains to rebuilding our
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country and passing what I hope will end
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up being a trillion dollar
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infrastructure package to rebuild our
19:51
roads or bridges I roads and bridges and
19:53
water how about that what if we fold it
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into the infrastructure bill
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well sure lot of wiggle room with a
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trillion dollar mark well she's talking
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to I does she bring that up in
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relationship to this in rural broadband
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or whether it has to do with lowering
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the cost of health care including the
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exorbitant prices of prescription drugs
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whatever it is what I'm saying is we can
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have a starting point that we go in
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there and we say this is ideally what we
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would like to see happen but in the end
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we might have to give or take a little
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bit it's just the way the world works
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its way the way our families work I'm a
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mother of blah blah blah
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I think there's room there and she's
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signaling this yeah maybe
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I'm not saying she's not Pelosi the one
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who really calls the shots
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she worked at the Quad Cities times as
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the nightshift police reporter wow
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that's a gig and she actually got a
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master's in journalism from University
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of Illinois to get the gig
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yeah well that in those days I'm gonna
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hold she is but in olden days you'd get
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you come out of college 57
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yeah you come out of college and you if
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you had any journalism chops whether you
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were the editor of the school paper or
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you were taking journalism courses you
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get offered these sorts of gigs around
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the country when they had real
21:16
newspapers and they was always starting
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off as always a good some cop beat you
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had for the police department and that's
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it they actually kind of made the the
21:28
reporters a little more street savvy
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because they actually know we're out
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there yeah they they get getting some
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real information yeah
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those days are over oh yeah alrighty
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think we're done with the wall I just
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thought it was interesting that you know
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how'd that it just seems like
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something's something's going on this I
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did I think we will get to something
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some better be going on well it has to
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yeah well they talk about this a little
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bit on democracy now let me let me give
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you an example here is a Amy Goodman is
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gonna talk about they're gonna talk to
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very detailed information about the wall
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and some of the things that went on that
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are going on in the various
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administrations let's play this this is
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Amy regarding shutdown as the government
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shutdown moves into its 14th day with
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800,000 federal workers either being
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forced to work without pay or on
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furlough and they won't be paid we go
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now to Capitol Hill where we're joined
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by Democrats what do you mean not true
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give everybody back pay for being put on
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furlough that's way they blood of him
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like going on furlough and then why is
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she lying to us I'm wondering myself
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because I think she knows the the
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reality of it there must be somebody
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that's that's not gonna get paid I'm not
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sure what the point of that comment was
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but and they won't be paid we go now to
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Capitol Hill where we're joined by
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Democratic Congress member Judy Chu of
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California she's the chair of the
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Congressional Asian Pacific American
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caucus Congress member Chu is also a
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member of the Committee on ways and
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means along with Democratic Senator Jeff
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Merkley of Oregon she's introduced the
23:13
shutdown child prison camps act a recent
23:17
piece for the Pasadena's I want you to
23:19
get your pencil because there's gonna be
23:21
so many details this is already
23:24
interesting the title of this act yeah
23:27
it wasn't but you'd now you're gonna
23:29
hear all the really important stuff so
23:31
really start writing down notes news his
23:33
headline shut down Trump's child prison
23:36
camp Congress member Judy Chu welcome to
23:40
shutdown
23:41
Trump's child prison camp is that
23:43
seriously what I just heard yeah all I
23:46
got to back it up for the title of that
23:47
act he's for the Pasadena Star News his
23:50
headline shut down Trump's child prison
23:53
care Congress remember Judy Chu welcome
23:55
to Democracy Now congrat
23:57
Galatians on your swearing in yesterday
24:00
along with the most diverse Congress and
24:03
US history your thoughts being in that
24:05
room and the comparison of the diversity
24:08
in color religion ethnicity sexual
24:13
identity on the part of the Democrats
24:15
versus the Republicans oh it was just so
24:19
incredibly exciting to be there with the
24:23
now majority in Congress you could see
24:27
the stark difference just when you
24:29
entered the room as the proceeding
24:31
started and that is on the left side of
24:33
the room where the Democrat sit there
24:35
was tremendous diversity we have a
24:38
record number of women in Congress now
24:41
there are over a hundred women in
24:43
Congress but most of them are on the
24:46
Democratic side but there is also
24:48
tremendous diversity we have the
24:50
greatest number of Latinos African
24:53
Americans and let me also say we have
24:55
the greatest number of Asian Pacific
24:57
Islanders elected to Congress now we
25:00
have gone from 18 to now 20 agen Pacific
25:03
Islander members of Congress but it is
25:06
so exciting that we have now the first
25:10
two Native American women in Congress
25:13
and the first two Muslim American women
25:17
in Congress right United Colors of
25:19
Benetton it's beautiful hey hey where's
25:22
this from it what are they talking about
25:24
just sitting there patting yourself on
25:25
the back yeah there's a bunch of more
25:30
women these people reelected it's not
25:33
talking about qualifications or what any
25:35
of them are any good they haven't even
25:36
been in office for ten minutes but
25:38
they're just all well useless know if
25:46
you look at how the Democratic Party
25:48
runs and what issues they run on its
25:50
diversity and they said we're gonna get
25:52
make it more diverse and they did they
25:54
didn't say they were going to get anyone
25:55
right for the job and they may very well
25:57
be I don't know but they said they were
25:59
going for diversity they delivered on
26:00
their promise let's go with part two the
26:04
first day was to be able to change the
26:09
rules so that we have great
26:10
transparency in Congress and it was also
26:13
to pass bills that would end the
26:16
government shutdown on the rules issue
26:19
yes and unfortunately since the last few
26:23
congresses since Republicans took over
26:24
we have had a lack of transparency so
26:27
our whole goal was to change it so that
26:29
for instance we could have a bill 72
26:32
hours before it's voted upon so we can
26:35
actually read it and contemplate yeah
26:38
we'll hold you to that one don't worry
26:41
this woman wasn't this Obama's promise
26:45
when he first became president at all
26:46
and it's gonna be everything's gonna be
26:48
on c-span and you can read the bills and
26:51
all the rest of it yeah that didn't work
26:53
either
26:53
that wasn't Nancy Pelosi one says we
26:55
gotta pass this bill so you can read it
26:57
to see what it says yes yes that's
26:59
correct in other words she just fully
27:05
crapped like the rest of them with this
27:07
nonsense
27:08
no no they put out a bill 72 hours in
27:11
advance before they even bring it to the
27:13
floor and in fact I'll read from it in a
27:15
minute so they did that they're working
27:17
on it they're getting better that we can
27:21
have an end to these conflict of
27:23
interests so for instance members of
27:25
Congress cannot be on corporate boards
27:28
and also so that we can have greater
27:31
diversity amongst our members that board
27:40
thing they're not talking about the real
27:42
conflict of interest stuff which is a
27:44
defect that stock trades can do stock
27:47
trades based on what the legislation is
27:49
gonna be in advance legally and they
27:52
have to report it it's only but it's
27:54
available only in the basement of the
27:56
Library of Congress not not kidding no
27:59
cops no copies can be made and leave the
28:02
premises no electronic equipment you
28:05
have to bring pencil or a great memory a
28:09
greater - wait wait so they they make it
28:12
they lately let that slide but they talk
28:14
about this board member thing knowing
28:16
full well that none of these diversity
28:19
folk or anybody on our boards on
28:23
boards except maybe some public you know
28:26
some Soros boards which don't count
28:29
there tell my corporate boards of
28:31
money-making companies so Rossum only
28:33
applies to one half of Congress so they
28:36
can still be on this on a board of a big
28:39
NGO well I'm pretty sure that's true I'm
28:43
not not looking to that that's
28:45
interesting that's interesting
28:47
if that can be shown then you can see
28:50
that this is just a bigoted
28:52
anti-business kind of thing let's hear
28:54
the word diverse guys should be on
28:57
boards of corporations of course not but
29:00
if you're gonna start limiting things
29:01
you're better limited evenly yes
29:04
get some diversity we can have greater
29:07
diversity amongst our members allowing
29:13
religious headgear on the board so those
29:16
were our rules never religious headgear
29:20
always reminds me of the braces I had
29:22
with the headgear my hat I hated those
29:25
things had had wear him to school had to
29:28
do three notches on the right two
29:29
notches on the Left that's headgear on
29:32
the floor so those were our rules
29:34
packages but the most important thing
29:37
was that we do not continue the
29:38
suffering of these federal workers these
29:41
800,000 federal workers who either will
29:44
not be paid or will be paid later and do
29:48
not have a paycheck now you want to hear
29:50
the bit from the bill that they brought
29:52
out before they bring it to the floor
29:53
the 72-hour bill yeah it's from sarbanes
29:57
put it in yo sarbanes from
29:58
sarbanes-oxley sarbanes-oxley one of the
30:03
worst laws in effect ever episode he put
30:07
out the for the people act of 2019
30:11
producer Todd caught this and pulled out
30:13
a couple of things this is to you know
30:17
more transparency rectify the elections
30:19
get our elected lecture system in order
30:21
and a couple of points page 39
30:25
the voting age shall be lowered to 16
30:28
makes sense
30:31
any citizen will be able to request a
30:33
MyVoice voucher worth $25 so this is a
30:36
voucher you get to even out money in
30:38
politics and you can spend that 25 it's
30:41
federal money you can spend that $25 on
30:44
any party or individual you want
30:47
colleges can automatically register
30:49
students to vote but are not required to
30:52
ask if they are US citizens according to
30:54
the bill there's a number of triggers
30:57
for automatic voter registration
30:59
non-citizens who are registered to vote
31:01
cannot be charged with the crime unless
31:02
they knew they were violating the crime
31:04
Sosa get out of jail free card there
31:08
within six months of an election people
31:10
cannot use the cross state registration
31:12
database to find people who are
31:13
registered to vote in more than one
31:15
state because that's voter suppression
31:20
that's a Republican tactic you see to
31:23
find corruption is it is is right-wing
31:26
craziness oh my god that's a that's
31:30
unbelievable voting rights will be
31:32
restored to convicted criminals as long
31:34
as they are not in jail on Election Day
31:36
and all states must allow early voting
31:39
and polling locations must be moved
31:41
within walking distance of bus stops
31:45
let's back up
31:48
this is in that bill that's supposed to
31:50
yeah the for the people act for the
31:54
people act
31:57
it's pretty good right
31:59
yeah it's a scam as usual yeah slipping
32:03
one by but right what so what does the
32:06
media say about this they must have read
32:08
this over and said this notice these
32:10
these anomalies uh yeah I have a clip
32:12
right here if you know what I mean of
32:20
course they don't say anything about
32:21
that come on you know the answers it's
32:25
just it's just shameless thank you thank
32:32
you our thanks to our producer for yeah
32:33
digging this out that's what we do on
32:35
this show yeah and put the I put the
32:36
whole PDF in the show notes any show
32:39
notes calm you can go find it there but
32:41
it's pro oh by the way from the future
32:44
time for if we can just deviate or do
32:46
you have more on the diversity diversity
32:50
buddy got diversity or on the 20/20 no
32:54
do one we see five again 2020 hold on
32:57
before we do anything yes
33:02
so who do we still have running the
33:04
three B's
33:06
Beto Biden and bingo who's a third be
33:10
that oh by Bernie Bernie
33:14
we have Kamala Harris and I think that
33:17
CNN has really decided to cut Biden out
33:20
of the three B's and is and they brought
33:23
in Sally cone everybody's favorite to uh
33:27
to take him down and let everyone know
33:29
that yeah Sally cone besides being a
33:31
journalist I think she's good
33:33
although incredibly biased you know I
33:36
think she has ties to the Democrats that
33:39
are deeper than the surface may show I
33:41
always think she has inside info so
33:43
here's Sally :
33:45
let's turn the page and I know it's so
33:47
early but Senator Dianne Feinstein says
33:52
she would back Joe Biden if he ran in
33:55
2020 of you guys heard this and not only
33:57
is it interesting Sally to you that
34:00
she'd say something like this so early
34:03
but also just keeping in mind senator
34:05
Kamala Harris is her fellow California
34:07
senator what do you think I mean good
34:11
honor I have to respectfully disagree
34:15
look when someone says I want to
34:19
respectfully disagree what do they say
34:22
that
34:24
oh well that's a good question to
34:27
analyze because people say it a lot
34:29
listen I I just respectfully I disagree
34:31
I think it's haughty it's I think it has
34:36
bad connotations I think it means you
34:39
you think the person is full of shit
34:41
yeah you don't want to say it like hey
34:44
you're so stupid you're so wrong I'm
34:47
gonna tell you how it is I think you're
34:48
right that's kind of that's kind of what
34:49
it means another one good on her good on
34:56
her is that even mean you know I'm
34:59
hearing having haven't grown up in
35:02
Europe growing up with the Germanic
35:03
languages I'm hearing descent and
35:06
sentence structure certainly between
35:07
Dutch or German and English everything
35:09
is reversed so instead of saying what do
35:12
you say you literally say what say you
35:15
and I'm hearing this coming up now what
35:17
say you in something in certain
35:19
circumstances people use this and to say
35:21
good on you it's good for y'all you know
35:25
it's like a Germanic thing that's coming
35:27
in it's very odd to me where I hear
35:29
these sentence structures that are
35:30
different from the traditional English
35:32
usage
35:36
good on you good on her good on her if
35:39
you don't say it with the right intent
35:41
intonation sounds stupid like oh well
35:43
good on her yeah that sounds nasty yeah
35:47
it doesn't sound right
35:49
I mean good honor have to respectfully
35:55
disagree look I think it's the prelude
35:57
to fu has name recognition people like
36:02
him and in fairness he's the most sort
36:05
of populist seeming of a long legacy of
36:09
centrist corporate Democrats right he
36:11
talked - he's from Scranton he talks
36:13
about that all the time and so he sort
36:15
of seemed like the most popular bearing
36:19
in mind he's from the great banking
36:20
state of Delaware but but he kind of he
36:23
earned that reputation but in fairness
36:26
the country yeah corporate centrist
36:30
Democrats but certainly in this moment
36:32
that is so tone-deaf and out of step not
36:36
only was what the country needs but with
36:38
what the American people across the
36:40
aisle what and and it turns out we're a
36:44
fundamentally more progressive inclusive
36:48
populist country that wants things like
36:52
higher taxes on the rich climate change
36:56
and corporations and big business to be
36:58
held accountable and we need Democratic
37:00
candidates who I don't know actually
37:02
sided with the majority of Americans not
37:04
to mention the majority of Democrats as
37:06
opposed to siding with big business in
37:08
Wall Street
37:09
Uncle Joe just got shoved in The Wall
37:12
Street way to go south she had Hillary
37:17
she's there already - yeah she runs a
37:19
think-tank that she found it Sally she's
37:22
only sometimes a commentator
37:26
only a stooge for the Democrats yeah
37:29
she's Democrats now she mentioned the
37:32
higher taxes and I'm gonna bring it
37:34
right back to what I said earlier
37:36
AOC who I and I'm sorry have the AOC
37:40
clip yeah I have it too okay let me see
37:44
how long has your clip yours is oh you
37:48
have 142 we're going with your clip your
37:50
talk about zero carbon emissions no use
37:53
of fossil fuels within 12 years that is
37:56
the goal its ambitious yeah I know that
37:59
posture of everybody happening to drive
38:00
an electric car it's going to require a
38:04
lot of rapid change that we don't even
38:07
conceive as possible right now what is
38:10
the problem with trying to push our
38:14
technological capacities to the farthest
38:18
extent possible this would require
38:19
though raising taxes there's an element
38:21
where yeah there people are gonna have
38:23
to start paying their fair share in
38:25
taxes tax rate you know you look at our
38:28
tax rates back in the 60s and when you
38:31
have a progressive tax rate system your
38:34
tax rate you know let's say from zero to
38:38
$75,000 may have been 10% or 15% etc but
38:43
once you get to like the tippy tops on
38:46
your 10 millionth dollar
38:48
sometimes you see tax rates as high as
38:50
60 or 70% that doesn't mean all 10
38:53
million dollars or taxed an extremely
38:56
high rate but it means that as you climb
38:57
up this ladder you should be
39:00
contributing more what you are talking
39:03
about this big picture is a radical
39:05
agenda compared to the way politics is
39:08
done right now well I think that it only
39:12
has ever been radicals that have changed
39:15
this country Abraham Lincoln was a
39:17
radical decision to sign the
39:18
Emancipation Proclamation Franklin
39:21
Delano Roosevelt made the radical
39:23
decision to embark on establishing
39:26
programs like Social Security that is
39:28
radical do you call yourself a radical
39:30
yeah you know if that's what radical
39:32
means call me a radical I really like
39:36
this girl she is going places I know you
39:38
think
39:38
it's to me I don't like her in the least
39:41
I think she's I do think she's stupid
39:44
and she's an idealist and a goofball
39:50
I think she's something of a goofball I
39:51
just do not see what you see I know what
39:54
you're thinking did he shoot six shots
39:57
or only five oh I'm sorry no it's
39:59
different no I'm going on record as Pro
40:05
AOC I think she could do things that I
40:07
like listen here's I have some things to
40:11
say about this first of all what
40:13
happened to the actual green New Deal
40:16
black-on-white her own paper says we're
40:19
going to print the money
40:19
I hope we're gonna print the money for
40:21
this green New Deal which we only have
40:23
12 years to do really only ten before we
40:26
die children know it that you ask any
40:28
child particularly if they just got into
40:31
college was happening with with climate
40:32
change we're gonna die
40:33
so let's just bear that in mind children
40:36
believe this she believes this I think I
40:38
think so she said it was going to be
40:41
done by printing up money just the way
40:43
we did the bailout in 2008 so she's
40:45
changed
40:45
this is the question pooper should have
40:47
asked instead she brings up a
40:50
progressive tax system which we've had
40:52
all my life and yes is even today if you
40:56
make X amount you pay only so much over
40:58
the first $25,000 50,000
41:02
and you get into the tippy-top as she
41:04
calls it at iffy job which is Scott
41:07
Adams would say persuasive gets into the
41:10
tippy-top
41:11
and that's where you may wind up paying
41:13
more and I went back and I looked
41:15
throughout the 50s the 60s and the 70s
41:17
up until 1981 the tippy top tax rate in
41:21
United States was over 70% Tesla it was
41:25
it's not it's not crazy but go back into
41:30
that era and the tippy top top tax rate
41:33
at 71 percent did exist but there were a
41:37
million ways to lower your tax liability
41:41
through all kinds of R&D deals and
41:44
there's certain kinds of investments and
41:46
write-offs this way and write-offs that
41:48
way and very few people that made that
41:51
kind of money
41:52
they made the 10 million plus a year
41:54
ever paid those tax rates because they
41:56
had been putting the money here and
41:59
putting the money there these were
41:59
called the loopholes that were closed
42:01
and once they started closing the
42:03
loopholes and they had to start lowering
42:05
the tax rates because it was a it was a
42:07
one to one ratio so this is really
42:11
misconstrued this is a specious
42:15
commentary that she's making it's
42:17
bullshit that may be true I'd the only
42:23
thing I'm saying is it's not crazy to
42:26
have that upper tax rate in a
42:28
progressive system and people shouldn't
42:30
immediately be uh however a more
42:35
importantly if that's all it would take
42:37
to get the green New Deal going to save
42:40
our lives
42:41
I expect every person who is a
42:44
democratic voter or a democratic
42:46
operative or politician to agree to this
42:49
idea to save the world
42:54
I bet we won't but it's not it's I'd
42:57
like people like Nancy Pelosi and the
43:01
real movers and shakers in the party buy
43:05
into any of the we're all gonna die
43:08
nonsense no but of course but that's how
43:11
I can make my point if they don't buy
43:13
into it if they don't say hey you know
43:15
okay make it 60% make it an even 50 what
43:19
whatever you gonna do that's the way we
43:22
typically do things with raising money
43:23
if it truly is the most important thing
43:26
in the world because we're all going to
43:28
die then they should all be pushing for
43:30
it they won't because it's not true
43:32
we're not going to die my point is about
43:35
the science of climate change and the
43:37
hood that's been pulled over everybody's
43:39
eyes
43:41
so how'd everybody know but the people
43:43
who are advocating for those suckers the
43:45
people who are advocating for the we're
43:47
all gonna die climate change don't deny
43:49
Sciences in they should be all in on at
43:52
least this idea I agree and I think a
43:54
lot of them are we'll see I bet not a
43:59
single one of them supports this idea
44:02
not a single one a single one of who is
44:05
at Congress members yes the Democrats
44:08
who say we're going to die from climate
44:09
change them yes oh well maybe by the way
44:14
this think there's more than a single I
44:15
think there's a few this was all
44:17
predicted the newbies that just came in
44:18
did you see the the article that now you
44:21
know the orbit of the the earth is
44:23
changing slightly and therefore and
44:27
that's not therefore climate change you
44:29
know it it may end by itself or not oh
44:31
they're looking for the out to look for
44:33
the exit strategy for the bullish listen
44:36
so this this actually appeared in 1961
44:41
November 17th in an episode of The
44:44
Twilight Zone
44:46
the word that mrs. Bronson is unable to
44:48
put into the hot still sudden air is
44:50
doomed because the people you've just
44:52
seen have been handed a death sentence
44:54
one month ago the earth suddenly changed
44:56
its elliptical orbit and in doing so
44:58
began to follow a path which gradually
45:00
moment by moment day by day took it
45:02
closer to the Sun
45:04
and all of man's little devices to stir
45:06
up the air and now no longer luxuries
45:08
they happen to be pitiful and panicky
45:10
keys to survival the time is 5 minutes
45:13
to 12 midnight there is no more darkness
45:16
the place is New York City and this is
45:18
the eve of the end because even at
45:20
midnight it's High Noon
45:22
the hottest day in history and you're
45:25
about to spend it in the twilight zone
45:28
so that's the setup but in the show
45:30
itself this is what happens there was a
45:33
scientist on the radio this morning he
45:35
was trying to explain what happened how
45:37
the earth had changed its orbit and was
45:39
starting to move away from the Sun and
45:41
that was in 1 2 or maybe 3 weeks at the
45:44
most
45:44
there wouldn't be any more Sun we'd all
45:47
freeze nothing ever changes remember
45:55
that episode it's pretty funny you
45:57
remember oh that's great let's go back
45:59
to 1988 for the upcoming election hold
46:02
on 1988 hello John oh yeah I was having
46:09
trouble with my Segway obvious yes yes
46:11
it ran off a hill gore is running he's
46:16
one of the main candidates this is the
46:19
the election against the George HW Bush
46:23
the first time he after right after
46:24
Reagan's eight years and so we have a
46:27
few things here including let's just
46:30
play these two gore clips from 1988 just
46:33
pre-election so just before the election
46:35
when he was one of the five candidates
46:37
Dukakis won this thing he didn't but he
46:40
had a few things to say that he's kind
46:41
of stuck with but I see that he's kind
46:43
of edited down his complaints let's
46:46
start with gore free on the other five
46:50
candidates in the race and later in the
46:53
campaign I'll be doing the same thing on
46:55
on domestication it's a cool way to
46:57
different you've heard these guys and we
46:59
all have for about six months you know
47:00
what you believe for the last ten years
47:01
so where do you think the differences
47:03
are gonna be education social well I
47:05
think there gonna be some differences
47:07
in education in in in this in
47:15
Environmental Protection and in a number
47:19
of other issue areas I'm the only
47:21
candidate to talking about the need for
47:24
a completely new approach to
47:26
environmental protection as an example
47:29
I'm chairman of the largest
47:30
environmental protection group in the
47:32
Congress I chaired the first hearings
47:35
ever held on the problem of hazardous
47:37
chemical waste and pollution of
47:40
groundwater some ten years ago I was one
47:43
of the principal authors of the
47:46
Superfund law I've been active in issues
47:50
from clean air and clean water to
47:51
protection of the upper atmosphere and
47:53
the rain forests and ocean pollution
47:56
management of public lands and the
48:00
positions I've articulated I'll give you
48:03
an example did you see at any point
48:05
mentioned that he invented the internet
48:07
the internet later oh when I announced
48:12
my candidacy I talked about the threat
48:15
to the ozone layer among many many other
48:18
issues and some of the other campaigns
48:21
said sort of hooted at that and said
48:25
this is really a kind of an unusual
48:29
issue that the voters will not respond
48:32
to I find a tremendous response from the
48:35
voters I find Americans all over this
48:38
country actively concerned about the
48:42
impact of our civilization on the global
48:44
environment and the next president must
48:47
not only understand that impact but must
48:50
be prepared to offer strong innovative
48:53
leadership nationally and
48:55
internationally to stop that damage the
48:58
recent treaty incidentally on the ozone
49:02
depletion accomplishes a 35% reduction
49:06
in in in the production of these
49:10
chemicals called chlorofluorocarbons or
49:13
CFCs and yet the
49:15
evidence shows that there must be an 85%
49:19
reduction just to stabilize the amount
49:22
of damage being done in other words
49:25
under this treaty the damage will not
49:27
only continue it will accelerate fairly
49:30
dramatically throughout the balance of
49:31
this century that's unacceptable now
49:34
there may be some market developments
49:36
that have helped us deal with the
49:38
problem in the treaty may accelerate
49:40
those market trends
49:42
well this is his whole thesis word for
49:46
been running for anything is to scare
49:48
the crap out of the public have these
49:50
assertions like we would like by the
49:52
year 2000 apparently according to him
49:54
there were the whole was gonna get
49:55
bigger when it got smaller and all this
49:58
sort of thing but the next one which is
50:00
the second clip has an assertion with an
50:02
actual time and date no date that it
50:06
should be noted yes okay yeah because
50:10
it's it's he says it and I do the
50:13
calculation and I didn't happen but but
50:16
there are many other challenges climate
50:18
change is an issue that again wow this
50:20
is is out in front of the domestic
50:23
consensus on what the agenda of the next
50:26
president ought to be but the next
50:28
president needs to provide leadership
50:30
there as well destruction of the
50:32
rainforests we're losing rainforests in
50:34
the world today at at the rate of one
50:37
Tennessee's worth every year an amount
50:40
of land equivalent to the size of the
50:43
state of Tennessee every single year by
50:44
the year 2010 it'll all be gone it's
50:51
gone gone it's gone is it gone
50:54
did you check yeah I did she's gone it's
50:57
not gone mine looks as if there's not
51:00
even close to being gone just they you
51:03
can look at you know rain forests and
51:06
the Wikipedian you can see them all
51:08
they're still there it's just not done
51:09
but going to him it's not ever gonna be
51:11
gone by 2010 alright let's come back a
51:20
couple of things we've talked about that
51:21
are coming that are coming true
51:25
yes that are panning out a while back we
51:28
identified that the excessive use of
51:31
cuss words amongst leftist liberals
51:34
Democrats was increasing
51:38
and this increased signal something to
51:40
me it signaled a severe frustration and
51:43
I said it's only going to get worse
51:45
you're hearing it on podcast everywhere
51:47
people who would never use any kind of
51:49
profanity are using the f-word
51:52
excessively now I have Tourette's so you
51:54
got to give me a little slack you
51:56
actually give you some you use the S
51:59
word today you rarely even do that now
52:01
they're saying that was the BS word I'm
52:03
not even saying that you're a leftist
52:05
but it came it came true I mean it is
52:08
they are this is a break in the
52:10
psychology in the psyche of people who
52:14
typically are left but who hate Trump
52:17
people love you you one bullies don't
52:24
win baby they talk because we're gonna
52:26
go in there and impeach the motherfucker
52:37
this is just getting worse this was an
52:41
example but I think a lot of it has to
52:43
do with education to people that are
52:45
typical truck drivers who wouldn't
52:47
really know this woman's not a truck
52:51
driver you Larry that's big enough to
52:52
handle just not using F what this
52:56
woman's not a truck driver and by the
52:57
way truck drivers aren't stupid they
52:59
have vocabulary no but they don't date a
53:01
lot of truck drivers getting just a
53:03
milieu I'm sorry okay he was all right
53:05
that's more fair yes the milieu of truck
53:07
have certain working classes is involves
53:11
a lot of cussing the this woman to me is
53:16
this is a important especially the way
53:21
it was handled this is an important
53:22
situation because this can't be
53:26
tolerated by Nancy Pelosi exactly she
53:30
and if she can't control these new
53:31
people that are coming in there she's
53:33
gonna have to take him one by one she's
53:36
gonna have a mess on her hands I feel a
53:39
dirt I'm sorry I think I think it's
53:41
already done they brought in all the
53:43
diversity and that's the mess
53:45
yet diversity is the mess yeah whether
53:48
Nancy can organize it at her age not to
53:52
be an ageist an already insulted our
53:55
truck drivers I don't think she can do
53:59
it I think the whole Democrat party is
54:00
gonna fall apart it's gonna be it's
54:02
gonna be an embarrassment as the those
54:04
key sorts of things that that woman did
54:05
she's the new she's a Muslim by the way
54:08
mm-hmm
54:09
from Michigan I think she's the Michigan
54:12
woman Shh that is going to really turn
54:15
off the American public insofar as
54:18
Democrats are concerned I agree you're
54:21
right I think it is signaling something
54:22
that's a much bigger problem totally
54:26
agree
54:27
I have a clip well here it is this is
54:32
diversity and Pelosi regains gavel this
54:36
up from Democracy Now that discusses a
54:38
little bit of this incoming members of
54:40
the hundred sixteenth Congress made
54:42
history Thursday is the most diverse
54:44
group of lawmakers ever sworn in over a
54:48
hundred women now serve in the house
54:50
along with the most LGBTQ black and
54:53
Latino members in history meanwhile
54:56
Democratic Congress member Nancy Pelosi
54:58
of California was officially elected
55:00
Speaker of the House again regaining the
55:03
gavel she lost after the 2010 midterm
55:06
elections brought eight years of
55:08
Republican control to the house nation
55:11
is an historic moment two months ago the
55:14
American people spoke and demanded a new
55:17
dawn upon the beauty of our Constitution
55:21
our system of checks and balances that
55:24
protects our democracy
55:26
remembering that the legislative branch
55:29
is article 1 the first branch of
55:32
government co-equal to the presidency 15
55:38
Democrats including some freshman
55:40
lawmakers defected against Pelosi
55:42
speakership either voting for an
55:44
alternative candidate or simply voting
55:46
present as a first order of business
55:48
house Speaker Pelosi and House
55:50
Democratic leaders sought to end the
55:52
partial government shutdown passing a
55:54
package of spending bills that would
55:56
reopen the federal government without
55:58
meeting Trump's demand for five billion
56:00
dollars for expanding the wall on the
56:02
us-mexico border
56:07
so Pelosi's got this she has some
56:09
defectors which is she punished those 15
56:13
but she's also gonna punish the few that
56:15
threatened to not vote for it but did
56:20
they voted for anyway but they're
56:22
sterile marked all beyond the you know
56:24
the barbers committee for sewage
56:26
treatment and marked and these were some
56:29
of the words you know farm animals she
56:32
was that she was also kind of washing
56:35
her words her bitch like I think she's
56:37
got denture sound like she does thank
56:42
you for your refit befitting yes
56:51
retooling maybe I got a double up on you
56:54
listen to tell me if you can spot the
56:55
aim the ami hey this is actually a
56:57
double flub okay see if you can spot
57:00
both of them this is about the Google
57:01
story where you know Google apparently
57:03
is dodging taxes big shocker no but
57:07
listen the Seabees find the two double
57:10
flubs and they're not necessarily
57:12
mispronouncing things it's what she says
57:15
newly revealed tax filings show Google
57:17
shifted 23 billion dollars to accounts
57:20
in Bermuda in 2017 as part of a complex
57:23
tax avoidance scheme that saved the tech
57:25
giant billions of dollars in revenue the
57:28
scheme involved funneling money through
57:29
Google Ireland holdings and a Dutch
57:32
shell company based in Bermuda where
57:34
corporations pay no income tax the
57:37
scheme known as the double Irish Dutch
57:38
sandwich is legal although Ireland's
57:41
government has said it will close a
57:42
loophole allowing the arrangement in
57:44
2020 okay first of all is the double
57:47
dutch is never a double Irish that's
57:50
just stupidity and I think she also said
57:52
it would save the millions in revenue
57:54
which is not yes it was mistake number
57:56
one yeah it's not true billions in taxes
57:59
yes but not on revenues revenues or
58:02
whatever we revenues our revenues it
58:04
doesn't save you any revenue there's a
58:05
Dutch just that wrong the Dutch just
58:07
called they want their their other part
58:09
back don't play the second one in there
58:12
and I forget oh really besides that
58:14
there's one o newly revealed tax filings
58:16
show Google shifted 23 billion dollars
58:19
to accounts and
58:19
muda in 2017 as part of a complex tax
58:23
avoidance scheme that saved the tech
58:25
giant billions of dollars in revenue the
58:27
scheme involved funneling money through
58:29
Google Ireland holdings and a Dutch
58:31
shell company based in Bermuda where
58:34
corporations pay no income tax the
58:36
scheme known as the double Irish Dutch
58:38
sandwich is legal although Ireland's
58:40
government has said it will close a
58:42
loophole allowing the arrangement in
58:44
2020 allowing the arrangement
58:47
yeah weird now I just can't lift out the
58:51
second one okay anyway I have something
58:55
much I have something much more
58:56
important from the future we are huh of
59:00
course wherever Ebola shows up we always
59:03
expect the US military to follow now you
59:07
wouldn't know it from the American news
59:09
or if you dare I say even any news in
59:12
the Western in the Western world now but
59:15
if we go to Africa today the United
59:18
States has deployed so just to Kabul on
59:20
in anticipation of possible violent
59:23
demonstrations that Democratic Republic
59:25
of Congo after its presidential election
59:27
u.s. president Donald Trump told
59:29
Congress on Friday the first batch of
59:32
about 80 military personnel arrived in
59:35
Gabon on Wednesday their mission will be
59:38
to protect US citizens and diplomatic
59:40
facilities should avail as break out in
59:43
DLCs capital Kinshasa Trump said
59:46
additional forces may be deployed to
59:49
Gabon
59:50
if necessary no notice no mention of
59:52
Ebola is completely off the map we don't
59:54
care we got what we needed a we get them
59:56
in one way or the other troops in the
1:00:00
DRC
1:00:01
just a matter of time but how'd you get
1:00:04
dead that was a good clip oh it well
1:00:07
Reuters actually reported on it they did
1:00:09
do a news release about the US troops
1:00:13
being deployed but it wasn't it was not
1:00:15
mention I need I was looking for a clip
1:00:17
and this is all I could find I found a
1:00:18
million clips with some shit music and
1:00:21
titles you know those those are the
1:00:23
worst
1:00:23
I'll go assemble pieces of crap you're
1:00:26
like oh I got a cliff no I don't so yeah
1:00:29
and then I just went back to the well
1:00:31
off the riccati fact at the mainstream
1:00:34
news media including the CNN and MSNBC s
1:00:37
of the world spent all this time about
1:00:40
this briefing the definition of briefing
1:00:42
instead of some idealist stories like
1:00:45
this just slide who cares that's why
1:00:48
we're going to be great this year
1:00:50
what you think it's gonna get worse oh
1:00:52
the the the mainstream news CNN MSNBC
1:00:55
Fox all three of them are going to do
1:00:58
20/20 all day all night long it will be
1:01:01
nothing else that it's decided that
1:01:05
they're doing it it's like the mh17 it's
1:01:07
they're just gonna go it's only you know
1:01:09
it's only two years they don't care you
1:01:13
might be right I'd hate to see it
1:01:15
because the public doesn't care about
1:01:19
20/20 they won't care about 20/20 until
1:01:22
2020 what you're seeing is a total
1:01:25
withdrawal you're seeing withdrawal
1:01:27
people just not interested anymore
1:01:29
they're turning off the television it's
1:01:30
just it's only going to go downhill to
1:01:34
predict this one easy so you know now
1:01:38
for us we're just gonna deconstruct
1:01:40
other new sources you know still if you
1:01:42
go to RTE or Sky News you get different
1:01:44
things at least get something from a
1:01:46
different country that seems to be
1:01:47
casually looking at CBC this week we
1:01:51
need to take a break though before we go
1:01:53
into another another segment okay but
1:01:57
we'll be doing CBC News after I thank
1:01:59
you for your courage and say in the
1:02:00
morning to you John
1:02:05
in the morning to you mr. Adam curry
1:02:08
also in the morning to all the boots on
1:02:10
the ground the feet in the air the
1:02:11
substance of all the Dames of the nights
1:02:12
out there in the morning to the troll
1:02:14
room you can find them and join their
1:02:16
legions of trolls at No Agenda stream
1:02:19
dot-com and it's good to see everybody
1:02:21
there Aloha nice to see you've got your
1:02:24
troll poles also in the morning
1:02:26
Darren O'Neill he brought us the artwork
1:02:27
the album artwork for episode 1100 this
1:02:30
was the flash beat up which we need to
1:02:32
hear about and he had just a nice piece
1:02:36
of the tachometer or speedometer it had
1:02:39
33 is the only indicator and 1100 on
1:02:43
what would maybe be the odometer it was
1:02:44
just a nice piece particularly because
1:02:47
it was our 1100 episode and we thank
1:02:50
Darren and everyone who submitted
1:02:51
artwork and continued to do as a part of
1:02:53
our value for value system where you
1:02:56
give back the value that you get out of
1:02:58
it and for a lot of people they put in
1:03:00
their artistry and we appreciate what
1:03:02
they do no agenda art generate
1:03:03
calm thank you again Darren O'Neill
1:03:07
we have a funny situation here that I'd
1:03:09
not absolute that I haven't straightened
1:03:11
it out oh but there's there's a Sir
1:03:14
Scott and there's a serve Richard okay
1:03:17
and and I don't believe that this is
1:03:20
this may or may not be the same person
1:03:22
but neither one of them wants to be
1:03:25
mentioned to set their name so Scott or
1:03:27
Sir Richard allegiances for Richard on
1:03:30
the note
1:03:32
and that both of the numbers were a
1:03:35
one-two-three four-five-six
1:03:37
well I don't see you sir Scott on the
1:03:38
list well sir Scott someone I've been
1:03:40
going back and forth with because of
1:03:42
this this okay so I've got you sound
1:03:46
throttling what you sound troubled I am
1:03:51
troubled the
1:03:52
cuz I have not be able to figure out why
1:03:53
let me go get the know hold on a second
1:03:55
okay play a little rambling scroll male
1:04:00
music okay rambling squirrelmail music I
1:04:05
don't know how to do that man I need to
1:04:09
make that easier to find ya
1:04:17
here we go
1:04:23
will he find it he's looking for the
1:04:27
donation now run it over to the printer
1:04:31
back already
1:04:32
I gotta do the whole song took you
1:04:35
longer to get it then it took me to get
1:04:36
this note okay so this donation is to
1:04:41
say thank you for the fine product you
1:04:42
deliver twice a week for myself as some
1:04:44
simple jobs karma the original pelosi
1:04:47
no-trump Sir Richard and it's one two
1:04:51
three four five six yet
1:04:56
Scott Scott sir Scott head sent in one
1:05:02
two three four five six
1:05:06
and it was its it can only match the
1:05:09
same exact check but
1:05:13
I really have no idea what you're
1:05:15
talking here's the real problem I'm
1:05:18
gonna have the fuck to do some more
1:05:19
emailing oh I see okay now thank you
1:05:27
what is happening I get it now
1:05:29
sir Scott who is a sir wanted to be
1:05:33
called Sir Richard initially but then
1:05:36
when we went back forth of the email
1:05:37
because this check was a week late oh he
1:05:41
forgot about that part because he wanted
1:05:42
to be super anonymous so he became now
1:05:45
he's two guys that's pretty anonymous
1:05:48
yeah okay okay I got it cuz it's the
1:05:50
same that I'm saying that it's the same
1:05:52
guy Scott and Richard because they're
1:05:55
both in Louisville Kentucky you weren't
1:05:56
given you weren't listening to you are
1:05:58
listening to Rihanna again were you know
1:06:01
I should have been maybe that's the
1:06:02
problem
1:06:04
shows a box for me but anyway let's go
1:06:08
on and then we want to thank sir Scott
1:06:11
Richard for his Scott a Richard it's a
1:06:15
good name
1:06:16
show business name he just wanted a job
1:06:18
Nancy jobs jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's
1:06:24
vote job karma okay well at least we
1:06:30
figured it out yeah sure
1:06:32
all right so we onward but that's it
1:06:34
that's our executive producer
1:06:36
oh and luckily he came in at all well
1:06:39
but it's nice we appreciate that sir
1:06:41
Scott Richard thing and such sure
1:06:44
Richard Scott and for Richard sky what a
1:06:46
great name Sir Richard Scott and such
1:06:49
that's his new name Sir Richard Scott
1:06:51
and yes Robert Warner in Chicago two
1:06:55
three five three five and I look for a
1:06:58
note no no I don't have one either
1:07:00
Jim Watts - 33 33 this is a test of the
1:07:04
no agenda karma system world cup lose
1:07:09
racing karma needed for human resource
1:07:11
number and okay normally we do not do
1:07:13
sports
1:07:14
Carmelita karmas but since it's a
1:07:17
relative it's a human resource number
1:07:19
one
1:07:21
you give it a shot so this is so Jim's
1:07:25
human resource number one is a World Cup
1:07:29
luge racer yeah top that any other
1:07:37
podcast is what I mean who else has
1:07:42
World Cup lose racers participating in
1:07:46
our program no zero is that falls under
1:07:49
the jobs banner dealer's choice karma
1:07:52
please do you think we should make that
1:07:55
a jobs karma I think it is a I think I
1:08:00
think we're gonna go for the job karma
1:08:02
for human resource number one let's give
1:08:03
it a shot jobs jobs jobs and jobs let's
1:08:08
vote for job
1:08:11
karma all right well let us know how
1:08:14
that goes Jim very curious now again
1:08:17
this is not something we encourage and I
1:08:21
think for relatives and in looking at it
1:08:24
from the jobs perspective I do think
1:08:27
it's it's possible that that this is on
1:08:29
the up-and-up you do think I do think
1:08:41
further humiliating me oh come on it's
1:08:44
just a show
1:08:45
ah great okay Jay Sir Geoffrey meter now
1:08:50
this is another note no note I got a
1:08:52
Jeffrey guy with this with his
1:08:53
accounting but it's not this Jeffrey
1:08:58
this is Jeffrey do fields let me look up
1:09:01
fields I'm not gonna do that whole
1:09:05
squirrel mail I have nothing from mr.
1:09:09
fields mr. field WC Fields no I have
1:09:12
nothing from him I have Ellison fields
1:09:16
Anthony Tom no no I get not even close
1:09:20
so we got nothing but so that's we got
1:09:24
him as an associate executive producer
1:09:26
with $200 let's combine our missing
1:09:29
Robert Warner and Jeffrey fields and
1:09:32
give them a joint Karma did you got it
1:09:35
you've got Karma pretty much okay all
1:09:41
right well this is our value for value
1:09:44
system and the way and we make it work
1:09:46
in a number of ways first of all is we
1:09:48
know how the the network cannot be
1:09:50
monetized ads doesn't work that's Laura
1:09:53
Ingram how it works having ads if you
1:09:55
want to say whatever you want to say
1:09:57
yeah
1:09:58
her radio show she really got kicked off
1:10:00
because of advertiser pressure yeah I
1:10:04
think she's on one of the networks that
1:10:06
you can't monetize but she was on one of
1:10:09
them well know that if that is a
1:10:10
monetized network because that's a
1:10:12
closed loop yeah well you know to get
1:10:16
kicked off yeah that's exactly it the
1:10:18
Internet is what I like about this is
1:10:20
what I enjoy about D I I kind of enjoy
1:10:23
watching these these happens these
1:10:25
things happening because it's like oh
1:10:28
yeah good support from your you know you
1:10:32
you've been there you've been making the
1:10:34
network money because they're not
1:10:35
putting you up for free and people like
1:10:37
your show some people I guess I don't
1:10:39
know I've always found it should it be
1:10:40
not quite as I like your TV shows better
1:10:43
but she's making money for me this is
1:10:46
just a little cry little there's one
1:10:49
little complaints a couple of the
1:10:50
advertisers bailout and you take her out
1:10:53
you throw her out in the baby with the
1:10:54
bathwater
1:10:55
you just get boost give or kick around
1:10:58
on her but she bouncing on her on her
1:11:00
butt right at the studios I know what
1:11:02
kind of operations are these my name is
1:11:05
you can operate for their people
1:11:06
now of course why would they they're
1:11:08
money-making operations oh no way I
1:11:11
do it either she'd be gone in a
1:11:12
heartbeat if I was running the place
1:11:13
well you're a heartless no that's your
1:11:16
job as a corporation oh it's not yes it
1:11:20
is
1:11:20
it doesn't have to be K all righty then
1:11:24
how many corporations have you run
1:11:27
I've actually run a couple but they're
1:11:29
all like me and man me me as I reviewed
1:11:32
I've run a public company you don't care
1:11:35
I didn't like the job very much I'll be
1:11:37
honest but you don't care it's just you
1:11:40
can't are plenty of CEOs of big
1:11:42
corporations who do care okay I know in
1:11:47
the information business in the you got
1:11:52
the platform from PC Magazine over one
1:11:55
article in your 35 year history would
1:11:58
that I agree with I know their word era
1:12:00
douchebags for doing that but but let me
1:12:02
give you an example of how the
1:12:03
newspapers used to be run you start
1:12:05
attacking some guy and threatening the
1:12:07
newspaper the disfavored go after it's
1:12:09
not an it's not a newspaper this is an
1:12:12
information outlet and it could go after
1:12:13
the advertisers that's what Limbaugh has
1:12:15
been doing every time somebody threatens
1:12:17
to pull advertiser from Limbaugh he
1:12:20
tells us his census ditto heads out to
1:12:23
make their lives miserable that's what
1:12:24
you do there's a difference between Rush
1:12:28
Limbaugh and Laura Ingraham but here's
1:12:33
what I wanted to point out besides all
1:12:35
that is that we we recognized early on
1:12:40
the only way to pull this model off is
1:12:43
to open up two things one donation
1:12:46
amounts make them people can personalize
1:12:49
them and also it's the value you
1:12:51
determine it's like if if we're worst
1:12:52
five bucks worth 5 bucks fine this is
1:12:54
perfect doesn't matter so we left that
1:12:57
open we didn't we didn't say you have to
1:12:59
do this or have to do that whatever you
1:13:00
think is valuable second thing we do
1:13:03
everything ourselves there isn't you
1:13:05
cannot have producers that you that you
1:13:08
hire and put on a payroll because it
1:13:10
just there's not enough money in in the
1:13:12
value Network I don't think it is for
1:13:14
any system really and I'm always stunned
1:13:16
by the podcasts that have maybe three
1:13:19
people taking part and credit a credit
1:13:22
roll guy on the board a producer a
1:13:27
Booker I mean they maybe have six seven
1:13:29
people working there and it's like that
1:13:31
is like five or six too many so the
1:13:36
first one of the first things we did is
1:13:37
or early on as we said our audience are
1:13:41
not listener
1:13:41
they're not slubs just sitting around
1:13:43
they know stuff we figured it out pretty
1:13:46
quickly as we got every three-letter
1:13:48
agency cherlene in in the United States
1:13:50
was sending us information like oh we
1:13:52
listened to you guys about the CDC I
1:13:53
think was the first like we're laughing
1:13:56
about you guys but you're more right
1:13:57
than you're wrong and here's what we
1:13:59
think about X Y & Z so we said these are
1:14:01
our real producers and the production
1:14:03
work they do is the value that it's
1:14:05
returning the value they get from the
1:14:07
show they don't have to support us
1:14:08
financially
1:14:09
so that worked very well we also that
1:14:12
I've made incessant that this is the OCD
1:14:15
thing of mine is to keep it all
1:14:17
contained hope all production that we
1:14:19
can just do it ourselves
1:14:21
and I see these networks I did I sing I
1:14:24
think I sent you this article this is
1:14:26
the wsd G this is the outfit that builds
1:14:30
Studios they yeah used to be exclusively
1:14:32
recording studios do a lot of broadcast
1:14:35
studios yeah and they did the the gimlet
1:14:39
media yeah yeah yeah in 20,000 square
1:14:44
foot Brooklyn facility dedicated there's
1:14:48
your overhead dedicating 2,700 square
1:14:51
feet to one studio and they have they
1:14:55
got delet system so they can you know
1:14:57
copy edits back and forth between their
1:15:00
12 podcast studios including a full
1:15:05
music product recording studio these
1:15:08
guys are insane today oh I wish they
1:15:12
would just say hey how did that work out
1:15:13
when you guys did it what didn't you
1:15:16
can't do this it doesn't work that way
1:15:18
anymore oh my goodness I put that in the
1:15:22
show no she got a seat the facility in
1:15:25
my apartment donation amounts a very so
1:15:38
much because there's you know people can
1:15:39
choose their own we have to remember
1:15:41
that we kind of picked up it was it was
1:15:43
actually again in the early days but it
1:15:45
was the producers that could come up
1:15:47
with these crazy numbers you know you
1:15:50
know they would have some number then we
1:15:52
spend may have to show decoding what is
1:15:54
this
1:15:55
number meaning and I guess you know it's
1:15:57
that's a square root it became a thing
1:15:59
yeah I became a thing and if you make it
1:16:01
a Fibonacci I mean what mm-hmm that's
1:16:04
important to people so don't be so
1:16:06
stringent anyway what I'm saying is for
1:16:09
those who have been with us for eleven
1:16:10
years we've been with us for eleven
1:16:11
minutes thank you you clearly understand
1:16:13
how it works and we really appreciate
1:16:15
the value you return to us cuz we can
1:16:17
keep doing it this way and we're not
1:16:19
splitting not spit on 2700 square foot
1:16:22
studios in a 20,000 square foot Brooklyn
1:16:25
facility and that's all VC money they're
1:16:28
not making enough to sister's throwing
1:16:32
money away theses are idiots I wish I
1:16:34
wish if someone lives in Brooklyn can
1:16:37
you just be on the standby because when
1:16:39
they fold I want you to be able to go in
1:16:40
and put your stickers on the equipment
1:16:42
we could use some of that we wouldn't
1:16:44
mind buying some of that I'll be an OSU
1:16:46
so you use the equipment and in the
1:16:49
meantime you can also consider
1:16:50
supporting us for our next show in which
1:16:53
I'll probably have is the Golden Globes
1:16:55
tonight it was I think is to not excuse
1:16:59
tonight someone's tonight well have a
1:17:01
report on Globes are tonight yes sure
1:17:03
we'll have a report please support us at
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Vollrath org slash n a so now you know
1:17:08
all about the value for value model go
1:17:10
up there propagate this information our
1:17:12
formula is this we go out we hit people
1:17:17
in the mouth
1:17:31
while on the subject of the Golden
1:17:34
Globes clip because everybody's now you
1:17:40
know they've changed the way these shows
1:17:41
are because the women just don't get up
1:17:43
to look pretty they have to make a
1:17:45
statement so they read this is the clip
1:17:48
is politicizing the awards power in the
1:17:51
form of fashion okay and generations
1:17:56
that is at the forefront of Milan I have
1:18:00
two of these clips play that play the
1:18:02
CBC clip first Hollywood's awards season
1:18:04
has arrived beginning Sunday with the
1:18:06
Golden Globes the stars will be there
1:18:09
steps in on the red carpet and with much
1:18:11
of the world watching these sorts of
1:18:13
things are always an opportunity for
1:18:14
fashionable drama except now the
1:18:18
question you're more likely to hear
1:18:19
perhaps may not be who are you wearing
1:18:21
but why are you wearing that the
1:18:24
Hollywood red carpet seems to have
1:18:26
become the fabric of a very political
1:18:29
message no first there were the black
1:18:36
dresses at last year's Golden Globes to
1:18:38
show solidarity with sexual harassment
1:18:40
and assault survivors then the orange
1:18:42
pins at the Oscars to protest gun
1:18:44
violence and a few months ago at the
1:18:46
Emmys Jennifer Lewis's Nike outfit in
1:18:49
support of Colin Kaepernick lately red
1:18:52
carpets have been less about fashion
1:18:54
statements and more about political ones
1:18:56
this is a new form of currency is
1:18:58
activism and Carla Welch is at the
1:19:01
center of it in between celebrity
1:19:03
fittings here at her la studio for
1:19:05
clients like Sarah Paulson and Elisabeth
1:19:07
Moss the Canadian stylist posts social
1:19:09
media messages on immigration voting and
1:19:12
indigenous issues she dressed actor
1:19:15
Tracee Ellis Ross in an array of black
1:19:16
designers at the American Music Awards
1:19:18
and worked behind the scenes to support
1:19:20
the times up movement Welch has become
1:19:23
one of the most sought-after stylists
1:19:25
among Hollywood's elite not despite her
1:19:28
views but because of them yeah starts to
1:19:32
make you sick yes remember when the
1:19:36
Dixie Chicks and Michael Moore told
1:19:39
George Bush he was an a-hole and the
1:19:42
left one
1:19:43
oh you can't do that
1:19:48
that was in my lifetime yeah that's
1:19:52
changed quite a bit yeah now that your
1:19:55
MF and yes MF or her yes MF for yeh so
1:20:01
that no they've gone out of off the deep
1:20:03
end so let's finish this up there's
1:20:05
parts part two and generations that is
1:20:07
at the forefront of breaking the mold
1:20:09
politically active 18 year old actress
1:20:11
Yara Shahidi
1:20:12
wore a skirt covered with the face of
1:20:14
African American activist Angela Davis
1:20:16
to a high-profile event in April
1:20:19
stranger things started on their own
1:20:21
were the names of parkland shooting
1:20:23
victims on the back of her shirt Kids
1:20:25
Choice Awards the rise in social media
1:20:27
has allowed celebrities to be a little
1:20:29
bit more open about who they truly are
1:20:31
that the election has made a lot of
1:20:34
people feel like look I'm not willing to
1:20:36
just be quiet
1:20:37
even something also recognize the power
1:20:42
of speaking up
1:20:43
fourteen-year-old Brown credited Calvin
1:20:45
Klein for the design of her shirt to her
1:20:47
18 million Instagram followers and
1:20:49
chahee DS Angela Davis skirt was made by
1:20:52
product I think that the days of just
1:20:54
being like oh I look pretty in a dress
1:20:56
which I love we love celebrating fashion
1:20:59
we love wearing beautiful clothes but
1:21:01
they're coming a little bit to a close
1:21:03
and I think it's a good thing that
1:21:04
there's different ways of using power
1:21:06
power in the form of fashion
1:21:10
why do you do this to me why this to me
1:21:13
enough I do it because I know it makes
1:21:16
you as sick as it makes me well you
1:21:18
listen to the clip and I said oh my god
1:21:20
I'm getting sick I've got to put this on
1:21:22
the show cuz i Adam deserves to be just
1:21:25
this sick well you're gonna regret it
1:21:26
with what I have for you next then this
1:21:29
is we're gonna stay with award shows the
1:21:31
Kevin Hart drama now instead of talking
1:21:34
about you know elections in the Congo
1:21:36
and sending troops there which i think
1:21:39
isn't that kind of a thing these days
1:21:40
where we have or don't have troops now
1:21:42
don't report on that now let's get into
1:21:44
Kevin Hart's tweets and this was this
1:21:47
was kind of it I don't think we even
1:21:49
talked about it's a little issue that
1:21:50
originally managed to avoid yeah we did
1:21:52
but then Ellen invited Kevin Hart on as
1:21:56
a to create a bridge between Kevin Hart
1:22:02
and the Academy so he can host the
1:22:03
Academy Awards again well let's listen
1:22:06
let me help a little bit by backing this
1:22:09
up
1:22:09
Kevin Hart was initially announced by
1:22:12
the Academy Awards group to host the
1:22:15
show and then somebody came up with so
1:22:17
he apparently had some he's gonna decide
1:22:20
anti-gay tweets from some not know 10
1:22:23
years ago around the time of his special
1:22:25
where he had similar jokes in the
1:22:27
special yeah it was pretty much just
1:22:28
jokes as tweets and so somebody brought
1:22:32
this up is it all by god this is
1:22:34
terrible in heartwood before it even
1:22:36
became a scandal quit he said I'm not
1:22:38
gonna do the show yes he said I've
1:22:40
already apologized for those tweets and
1:22:42
I'm not gonna do it again just to be
1:22:43
able to host the show otherwise it'll
1:22:45
keep coming back I think it was right
1:22:46
about that
1:22:47
yes and then Ellen wanted to build the
1:22:51
bridge and I didn't
1:22:52
yes go ahead I believe I do believe I do
1:22:56
believe that somebody there's something
1:23:01
they can't get a hose for the ABC it's
1:23:04
ABC Ellen's on ABC hello yeah hello with
1:23:06
ABC ABC said you got a patch this up
1:23:09
Ellen make it happen because we won't
1:23:10
have any ratings every year this show
1:23:13
comes out the ratings go down we look
1:23:15
like doofuses we've got to get this guy
1:23:19
he's at least entertaining is maybe he
1:23:21
could pull it together because we've had
1:23:22
good luck in the past
1:23:24
you know with other black guy with other
1:23:27
black hosts yeah and comedian hosts and
1:23:30
this guy's the top of his game as a
1:23:31
comic you got it get him I could we
1:23:34
can't nobody else to do it we can't get
1:23:35
anyone that we want
1:23:37
so this was a something of a scam
1:23:40
and was it not who was that the Ellen
1:23:46
show that had the had the Vegas Massacre
1:23:52
security guard on
1:23:55
yeah which was something of a scam
1:23:57
something of a scam because she has
1:23:59
deals with the she's got slot machines
1:24:01
and everything was at The Ellen Show I
1:24:02
think it was a lunch oh yes it was
1:24:04
because there's there is a slot machine
1:24:05
called the Ellen yes so yeah so she is
1:24:09
all in on the corporate structure and
1:24:11
she is doing whatever she wants or
1:24:13
there's a big big business and and I've
1:24:15
learned a lot about Ellen I watched her
1:24:17
special on Netflix and that was quite
1:24:20
good and she's got an interesting
1:24:21
background I've learned some things I
1:24:23
didn't know about her career she's a San
1:24:25
Francisco comic and
1:24:29
oh so she's clearly all in with the
1:24:32
system and I think she made a big
1:24:34
mistake by trying to patch over the
1:24:40
homophobic nature of Kevin Hart's past
1:24:43
that's how it's categorized I don't
1:24:46
think he's a homophobe I think he's just
1:24:47
making jokes and ten years ago you could
1:24:50
make different jokes I think she's going
1:24:53
to she and I or do you see evidence of
1:24:55
it she's being excoriated by the
1:24:56
community which i don't believe exists
1:24:59
but okay there's supposed to be some
1:25:01
LGBTQ or to be precise LGBTQIA APK
1:25:05
community and this came true just the
1:25:09
other night as Don Lemon
1:25:12
the overnight sensation on CNN schooled
1:25:15
Kevin Hart and more and he did this in a
1:25:19
10-minute soliloquy ten minutes of
1:25:23
validly leave this guy on the ten
1:25:25
minutes of valuable overnight airtime so
1:25:29
I brought it just by cutting out the
1:25:30
pauses which I did this morning it was
1:25:34
four minutes
1:25:34
that's how long his pauses were
1:25:39
then I cut it down almost in half again
1:25:41
to be able to share on the show so I'm
1:25:43
saying right off the bat it is not a
1:25:45
true representation of what he said
1:25:47
because of all
1:25:50
the very
1:25:53
long pauses yeah but I Matic pause but I
1:25:57
learned a lot about the black community
1:26:00
and I learned a lot about community I
1:26:03
just I'm using don LeMans words the
1:26:05
black community and the LGBT community
1:26:09
and it is an eye-opener Kevin if
1:26:14
anything this is the time to hear other
1:26:16
people out to understand why they might
1:26:19
have been offended and I don't see any
1:26:21
meaningful outreach to the LGBT
1:26:24
community and now you want the
1:26:26
conversation to end but many of us
1:26:28
really need to keep the conversation
1:26:30
going
1:26:31
it's life or death and someone like a
1:26:34
Kevin Hart with one of the just you know
1:26:36
life or death now we're talking about a
1:26:37
comedian and the Oscars life or death
1:26:39
biggest megaphones in the war can be a
1:26:42
leader
1:26:43
the ultimate change agent can help
1:26:46
change homophobia in the black community
1:26:48
okay this is where I wouldn't homophobia
1:26:50
in the black community you're telling me
1:26:52
that that people of a different color
1:26:55
are different this does not sit well
1:26:57
with me Don something Kevin's old
1:27:00
Twitter jokes addressed but in the wrong
1:27:02
way
1:27:03
so take the tweet where he said that he
1:27:05
would break a doll a doll house over his
1:27:08
son's head if he found him playing with
1:27:11
it
1:27:12
he said that's gay by the way if you'd
1:27:14
look at this is so egregiously shitty of
1:27:16
Don Lemon to do he takes a tweet that is
1:27:19
a joke with a punchline and he removes
1:27:22
the punchline and says oh yeah if you
1:27:24
were gay
1:27:26
you know I say he doesn't literally read
1:27:28
the tweet which is a joke not of maybe
1:27:30
funny one but he pulls it apart and
1:27:32
makes it sound like he would hit the kid
1:27:34
over literally hit the kid in the
1:27:36
doghouse if he was because it's gay that
1:27:38
was a joke to Kevin
1:27:40
but the truth is that is a reality for
1:27:43
many little boys in the United States
1:27:45
somewhere a black dad is beating his
1:27:48
black son okay now you've got my
1:27:50
attention Don Lemon he's talking about
1:27:53
violence in black not unless a community
1:27:56
says it all the time he's saying black
1:27:58
Americans beat their children the same
1:28:00
way it happened to my friend
1:28:02
oscar-nominated director Lee Daniels who
1:28:05
through his TV show Empire portrayed how
1:28:09
as a little boy his dad threw him in a
1:28:13
trash can for wearing heels and now
1:28:16
somehow we've magically transformed from
1:28:18
being gay to wearing heels and I don't
1:28:21
think it's a prerequisite that you are
1:28:23
gay as a child that you wear heels but
1:28:25
okay Don I'll take your word for it took
1:28:27
him out of the house and threw them in
1:28:29
the trash cans that's a reality for a
1:28:31
lot of little boys those views of the
1:28:34
LGBT people within the black community
1:28:36
have consequences so think of this okay
1:28:39
we're about faculties a news
1:28:41
organization the Center for American
1:28:42
Progress says at 40 we're did you hear
1:28:45
that
1:28:45
we're a fact based organization let me
1:28:47
just get some facts for unity have
1:28:49
consequences so think of this okay we're
1:28:52
about facts here this is a news
1:28:53
organization the Center for American
1:28:54
Progress says that 44% of homeless gay
1:28:58
youth are black that's huge
1:29:01
remember black people only make up 12%
1:29:03
of the US population
1:29:05
I'd like how he uses this statistic
1:29:07
because when it's about violence let's
1:29:10
just take one against police officers
1:29:13
getting killed or if it's about crime
1:29:19
when someone says hey man the black
1:29:23
population in America is only 12% yet
1:29:26
they're responsible for more X Y Z then
1:29:29
you're a horrible bigot and an a-hole
1:29:31
and you can't say these things
1:29:34
but now Don can use the statistic this
1:29:37
guy hasn't even used the statistic he
1:29:39
uses the the derivative which is very
1:29:41
mislead stream homeless gay youth are
1:29:45
black that's huge
1:29:47
remember black people only make up 12%
1:29:49
of the u.s. population
1:29:50
those kids were likely kicked out of
1:29:52
their homes or had to run away because
1:29:55
of who they are and because of how our
1:29:57
community treats them now when he's
1:29:59
saying community he means black
1:30:00
community he's telling me that black
1:30:03
Americans are more homophobic than white
1:30:06
than any other color Americans I find
1:30:09
this to be a real outrage and we have to
1:30:12
talk about outreach Ellen a trailblazer
1:30:15
and respected leader in the LGBT
1:30:17
community she really is she almost lost
1:30:20
her entire career for coming out for
1:30:21
being a trailblazer doing it first
1:30:23
she gave Kevin the opportunity to tell
1:30:25
his story on her show that is an olive
1:30:27
branch if I have ever seen one she says
1:30:30
that she forgives Kevin and thinks that
1:30:32
he should host the Oscars but honestly
1:30:34
Ellen doesn't speak for the whole
1:30:36
community Oh Oh big mistake Ellen you
1:30:40
don't speak for the whole community and
1:30:44
this is where DOM is finally going to
1:30:46
tell us that there is no such thing as a
1:30:48
community and he's full of crap we need
1:30:50
to speak up for the young black people
1:30:54
especially young black men kids in the
1:30:57
LGBTQ community I'm a gay black man I
1:30:59
don't know what it's like to be a white
1:31:02
lesbian what what aren't you in the same
1:31:04
community you're telling me that you're
1:31:07
in the same community as a black gay man
1:31:10
and you don't understand what it's like
1:31:12
to be a lesbian white woman what kind of
1:31:15
a community is that there's much black
1:31:17
men kids in the LGBT community I'm a gay
1:31:21
black man I don't know what it's like to
1:31:22
be a white lesbian I don't know if
1:31:26
someone called me and they had an issue
1:31:27
whose - hey Don you don't know what it's
1:31:29
like to be a lesbian you don't know what
1:31:30
it's like to be a white man you don't
1:31:31
know what it's like to be a woman I
1:31:32
would listen to them so I'm saying these
1:31:35
issues need to be addressed especially
1:31:36
when it comes to black youth in our
1:31:37
country because they need to know
1:31:41
righteous oh yeah he's the kid he's the
1:31:44
king of the gays now
1:31:46
that's how he's portraying himself in
1:31:48
the king of the community and it's okay
1:31:50
to be who they are really in the
1:31:53
african-american community I'm sorry
1:31:55
he's the king of the blacks now we have
1:31:57
to stop low-key co-signing homophobia it
1:32:02
is not cool
1:32:04
so how man is this true is this true
1:32:08
that it goes something deeper than skin
1:32:10
colour that or that it is just black
1:32:13
black Americans are more homophobic than
1:32:16
the rest is that what he's saying
1:32:19
that's what a me might be saying is what
1:32:22
it sounds like to me I'd say so it
1:32:24
sounds like what he's saying but I don't
1:32:26
know how you can make that assertion he
1:32:27
doesn't even know how a white lesbian
1:32:29
thinks how did you know how a white
1:32:31
anybody else thinks so how can he make
1:32:34
that that generalization he's doing no
1:32:37
this is the 20 minute 20 seconds left
1:32:40
and we won't tolerate jokes that tell
1:32:43
those youth otherwise oh so we can't
1:32:45
have jokes now because apologizing and
1:32:47
moving on does not make the world a
1:32:49
better place for people who are gay or
1:32:51
people who are transgender being an ally
1:32:53
does so Kevin no one is against you no
1:32:55
one said that you should be fired or any
1:32:57
of that what they want for you is to
1:33:00
bring light to this to be an ally so it
1:33:02
is your chance right now to do the right
1:33:04
thing to change minds and possibly save
1:33:08
lives okay Don thanks for counting on a
1:33:10
comedian to save lives but why is it
1:33:13
that all I hear is it's white alt-right
1:33:17
people who hate gays that's all I hear
1:33:19
and here's Don Lemon in ten minutes
1:33:21
saying that it's it's worse with blacks
1:33:27
I have no answer for all of this but it
1:33:29
just worked me apparently
1:33:33
she's generalizing a whole bunch of
1:33:36
things here and that is not cool Don
1:33:38
Lemon that is not cool generalize
1:33:44
well they had Chris Rock on as the host
1:33:47
twice in a row cuz he liked him yeah I
1:33:50
don't know why they just don't bring him
1:33:51
back no I you know I listen to the don't
1:33:55
do we talked about this last time I
1:33:56
listen to the louis c.k one of his
1:33:58
recent stand-ups and i got to tell you
1:34:01
something broke he's nothing he says is
1:34:03
funny it's a bit societal yes it's
1:34:08
broken well is that here's a good
1:34:10
example
1:34:14
you can find one of these old thousand
1:34:16
funniest jokes but I'm not talking about
1:34:19
buying one off the shelf at a bookstore
1:34:21
I'm talking about going to a used
1:34:23
bookstore and buying the thousand
1:34:26
funniest jokes or any of the Bennett
1:34:28
Cerf books where he collects all these
1:34:31
jokes mm-hmm and these are all pretty
1:34:33
I'm talking about once printed in the
1:34:35
50s and 60s pull those books off the
1:34:37
shelf and tell me if there's any joke in
1:34:39
the book that's funny you won't find one
1:34:43
no they're just not funny anymore this
1:34:45
is not funny but I may have to say was
1:34:48
it funny then it probably was I know you
1:34:51
say hidden here's the now here's another
1:34:53
problem I have I did take the folklore
1:34:56
classes from Alan Dundas at the
1:34:57
University of California and a lot of us
1:34:59
focused on jokes the problem I have with
1:35:03
the thesis about these timing the
1:35:05
timeliness of jokes is is the folklorist
1:35:08
named legmen who did the rationale of
1:35:12
the dirty joke volumes 1 & 2 rationale
1:35:16
of the dirty joke is dirty jokes and
1:35:19
probably dirty jokes from the starting
1:35:24
in the 1920s 30s 40s 50s that these are
1:35:28
all old jokes because he goes back to
1:35:30
the original joke that made this
1:35:34
particularly at aghori what it was and
1:35:37
he has all these different categories
1:35:38
joke categories you don't even have
1:35:40
anymore like jokes about American
1:35:41
Indians you can read many of these jokes
1:35:45
and I would say mmm not all of them but
1:35:47
at least half of them are still funny
1:35:49
the dirty jokes
1:35:51
yeah the dirty jokes I can see that
1:35:54
so I'm skint baffled by you know what is
1:35:57
the non dirty societal jokes that are
1:35:59
talking about new daily life why is
1:36:03
louis c.k not funny anymore I don't know
1:36:06
but he just wasn't I think it's also you
1:36:10
know you can make comebacks in America
1:36:11
we're great at it we everyone gets at
1:36:13
least one comeback shot but when you
1:36:16
when you come back you gotta eat pie man
1:36:20
you gotta eat humble pie you gotta just
1:36:22
refuse this you got to make fun of
1:36:24
yourself he doesn't the first thing out
1:36:26
of his mouth is I lost 35 million
1:36:28
dollars how is your day going yeah
1:36:30
it's wrong and I think that because I
1:36:33
that's your opening joke no no good a
1:36:37
joke to get much sympathy from me now
1:36:39
buddy now so he's screwing up the great
1:36:41
American tradition of the of the the
1:36:43
comeback kid and it's over now for him
1:36:46
in my book
1:36:48
well he's you know the combat can be
1:36:50
re-engineered as possible I'm not from
1:36:53
the looks of it I'm not seeing it
1:36:56
unfav to stay on this path of being
1:36:59
adamant I mean his his attitude is look
1:37:03
I talked about these things that I've
1:37:06
been accused of in my material it's not
1:37:09
like news to anybody that I'm like a
1:37:11
masturbator uh and so he resents the
1:37:16
fact has turned back on him yes and
1:37:19
instead of seeing what was wrong what's
1:37:22
wrong with this picture and doing what
1:37:25
he's supposed to do which he doesn't
1:37:26
know how to do that's probably just
1:37:28
worked yeah which that makes it most
1:37:31
comics who are act like they're not
1:37:34
funny they're not gonna be funny right
1:37:38
oh well
1:37:41
pay attention people this is how to do
1:37:43
watch the Kevin Hart L&T what came of it
1:37:46
it's nothing
1:37:48
who cares nothing's coming up until I
1:37:51
get to do this show no I think Ellen
1:37:53
wants to do the show I think she's
1:37:54
Mayans wars before
1:37:55
yeah she would want to go back that's
1:37:57
what I'm thinking but I don't know more
1:38:03
importantly I really really don't care
1:38:05
well you cared enough to do a segment
1:38:08
that was different this dawn LeMond are
1:38:09
you kidding me he's the king of all
1:38:12
blacks and gays of the communities all
1:38:14
right let's go back to some of the clips
1:38:16
from 19 2009 these are now I realize
1:38:20
what this bit is these are clips from
1:38:22
2009 but the within the clip it could be
1:38:25
something older like the 2000 or the
1:38:27
1988 Al Gore thing right and for example
1:38:32
a good example of 2009 clip is the
1:38:34
Taylor Swift clip which used to be a
1:38:36
classic on the show when John first
1:38:41
identified the talent other than very
1:38:45
young Taylor Swift straited but Taylor's
1:38:47
strive for perfection only makes the
1:38:49
people who work with this young star
1:38:51
respect her that much more
1:39:00
there's been times where I've played a
1:39:01
solo and then just say well can you kind
1:39:03
of do this and she'll sing me and melody
1:39:05
I'll incorporate that and and that's
1:39:07
very impressive for someone her age
1:39:15
the problem that I was having with the
1:39:18
solo is that it like it's getting a
1:39:19
little noodley I'd rather it be like
1:39:36
less notes that would be great let's try
1:39:41
it again I remember this and I remember
1:39:45
being very skeptical of your adoration
1:39:46
of the young Taylor and how wrong I was
1:39:50
yeah I saw this coming that brought chop
1:39:54
slouched you were so right on the money
1:39:59
can I bring us back - no don't bring us
1:40:02
back we have one more okay and that way
1:40:03
we don't have to go back again oh good
1:40:05
this was our one of the early this is
1:40:09
one of the early jobs karmas Oh from
1:40:13
2009 where we had or we had the Nancy
1:40:17
Pelosi thing incorporated with an old
1:40:19
Dick Powell clip from one of the old
1:40:22
Broadway musicals that was turned into a
1:40:24
TV show or to a movie Dick Powell March
1:40:29
rhythm to it yes I have I have something
1:40:32
about a forgotten man
1:41:03
that's right is that is that the clip
1:41:06
you edited back then yeah that's that's
1:41:10
fantastic yeah I was doing good work
1:41:12
yeah what happened this is I have a
1:41:21
presentation a couple of clips it's very
1:41:25
much for us now but I think in looking
1:41:28
at tomorrow the brexit movie will be
1:41:32
released in the UK it will be aired on
1:41:35
channel 4 and it also I believe it drops
1:41:39
in the US on HBO this is a propaganda
1:41:43
piece it has big names in it it's a
1:41:45
propaganda piece to tell everyone that
1:41:49
the algos ripped them off in the brexit
1:41:52
vote and the timing could not be more
1:41:54
perfect because today again we read that
1:41:57
everybody wants a do-over something that
1:41:59
predicted from day one because that's
1:42:01
the way it works and so it looks like
1:42:04
they're just pushing and pushing and
1:42:05
pushing
1:42:06
now comic strip bloggers he was posting
1:42:11
in no agenda social calm which is our
1:42:13
mastodons federated nude by the way as
1:42:17
an aside I figured out what why
1:42:20
mastodons it has doesn't have the
1:42:23
toxicity of Twitter it's it hit me all
1:42:26
of a sudden okay and this is something
1:42:29
that was not in the original Twitter
1:42:30
design
1:42:32
the ability to retweet with a comment so
1:42:36
you can boost a post on mastodons but
1:42:39
you can't add a comment so you know so a
1:42:41
true boost like on a retweet on Twitter
1:42:45
which is a user demanded function by the
1:42:48
way people were doing originally know
1:42:51
the users demanded it they were they
1:42:52
were using some people well there was an
1:42:55
element of that but at the same time the
1:42:56
users are going RT yep and then cutting
1:43:01
and pasting another but somebody else's
1:43:03
tweet like and Twitter felt that was
1:43:06
giving the users too much personal power
1:43:08
and so they came up with a retweet
1:43:11
button and that actually made things
1:43:14
worse because now you retweet it shows
1:43:17
up as a tweet on your timeline not a
1:43:19
reply replies don't usually show up that
1:43:21
quickly it shows it shows your followers
1:43:24
a retweet and you could add any snarky
1:43:26
comment or whatever comment you want and
1:43:28
that is what starts the virality this
1:43:32
does not exist within the mastodons
1:43:34
system and the the guy Gargan whatever
1:43:38
in his name he says I'm not putting it
1:43:39
in so I'm not putting it in because that
1:43:41
is exactly what ruined Twitter and I
1:43:43
think it's a very astute observation I
1:43:45
think could be the artis with comment is
1:43:48
to blend anyway so comic store bloggers
1:43:50
in there and you know he's an expert in
1:43:52
machine learning now so he claims now
1:43:55
I've known this guy since early early
1:43:57
early daily source code days I mean way
1:43:59
before the show huge orig og regional
1:44:03
Fuji and I have no idea what he does
1:44:06
yeah I know he doesn't make money on his
1:44:08
cartoons and it hit me all of a sudden
1:44:10
he's my handler I think about it he
1:44:17
always wants you like you don't say
1:44:18
anything about Poland and it gets all
1:44:21
pissed off but he stays 20 years almost
1:44:25
he stays I think yeah if you look back
1:44:28
in his history I think he was in the
1:44:31
tech end I think it was probably some
1:44:32
kind of agent and then Microsoft kicked
1:44:35
him out because he was you know telling
1:44:37
the dude too many things to their system
1:44:39
and I think whoever he works for if it's
1:44:41
the Russians or whoever you know
1:44:43
Interpol I don't know who he works
1:44:45
but he clearly got demoted and they said
1:44:48
here do this podcast guy he's your
1:44:51
target now cuz he stays doesn't you know
1:44:54
he'll get pissed off about something
1:44:56
it's always something in the show quit
1:44:58
that we do he can't if we I am his
1:45:00
target I am loud to quit he's not
1:45:02
allowed to quit so anyway he now he says
1:45:05
he's always silly as it sounds it's not
1:45:07
that silly it's a possibility really
1:45:10
could be he's he like the guy that
1:45:12
couldn't handle the big job so they gave
1:45:13
him me that guy Jason all right so it
1:45:20
doesn't matter I like that he's a part
1:45:22
he's a part of our experience and I
1:45:24
appreciate him for that that's some good
1:45:25
art he does some great arts he's a great
1:45:27
contributor and sometimes he's right but
1:45:29
he handler so he's posting about though
1:45:32
this proves machine learning but and I
1:45:34
kind of misunderstood what he was saying
1:45:36
cuz he he posted a video of Dominic
1:45:40
Cummings at some kind of marketing
1:45:43
conference Dominic Cummings is the Brad
1:45:46
parce qu'elle of brexit this is the guy
1:45:48
who did all of the vote leave campaign
1:45:52
and you know the Facebook campaign and
1:45:55
he explains exactly how he did it and we
1:45:58
like this stuff it's interesting because
1:46:00
you know these days Facebook and other
1:46:04
social networks are seen as high it's
1:46:06
you know it's it's both a fantastic tool
1:46:08
because you can get stuff done you can
1:46:10
change the electrics thinking
1:46:14
at the same time the Russians could use
1:46:16
it and change the electorate's thinking
1:46:18
so is a very it's very it's mysterious
1:46:22
and it's scary and what do we do with it
1:46:25
and for us I think is just as
1:46:27
interesting as listening to how the
1:46:30
digital campaign for Trump ran as to
1:46:32
hear what he did and his conclusions
1:46:34
this Dominic Cummings for the brexit
1:46:36
campaign and I thought you'd be
1:46:38
interested - yeah okay so we'll start
1:46:42
off with the messaging so we worked out
1:46:47
essentially what I call out by the way
1:46:49
the guy it has a bit of Tourette's and
1:46:52
he's a stutterer so you know it's after
1:46:55
that I cut well because otherwise we'll
1:46:57
just be gone in this case we got to
1:47:00
listen to him um so we worked out
1:47:04
essentially what I call message would be
1:47:06
and I had it was very simple had
1:47:09
arguably say five elements to it the
1:47:14
first was the theme of take back control
1:47:16
note the word Mac of triggering loss
1:47:21
aversion the feeling that something has
1:47:23
been lost and we can regain what what
1:47:26
we've lost with which I think was
1:47:29
interesting and it worked on different
1:47:33
levels it wasn't it was the most obvious
1:47:35
level Wars we got to take back control
1:47:36
from Brussels but it was also and I
1:47:39
think David Cameron and George Osborne
1:47:40
didn't quite appreciate this it was also
1:47:42
about taking back control from of the
1:47:46
system itself
1:47:47
it was for a lot of people take my
1:47:49
control made them think yeah these are
1:47:52
the guys who screwed up the economy you
1:47:54
drove off a cliff in 2008 whose mates
1:47:57
are all the Goldman Sachs bankers and
1:47:58
hedge fund bazan massive bonuses uh
1:48:00
smokes on pa pa ye but the ones paying
1:48:03
paying the bills for this will show
1:48:05
those guys will take back control from
1:48:07
new law in London and I think that was a
1:48:10
that was a powerful feeling so there you
1:48:13
go taking it back this is just marketing
1:48:16
this is nothing special by the way
1:48:17
taking it back was the message take it
1:48:20
back and that was what they decided upon
1:48:22
early on and they liked it but then they
1:48:24
went to some academics
1:48:26
and found persuasion studies persuasive
1:48:31
usage of words and tactics that had
1:48:35
actual formulas attached to it so again
1:48:38
nothing really crazy if there's tons of
1:48:42
focus groups done on what persuasive
1:48:45
tactics work marketing is persuasion and
1:48:47
so they brought in the guys who done
1:48:50
some studies so he had to do things in
1:48:52
mistake risks and we had to do things in
1:48:56
a slightly new way so one of the basic
1:48:59
things that I did was I brought in a
1:49:01
team of physicists who essentially
1:49:04
looked at campaigning from complete
1:49:07
first principles and what they did was
1:49:09
they went they simply stand around the
1:49:10
world and they said what studies have
1:49:13
been done on issues of turnout and
1:49:15
persuasion if I actually have good maths
1:49:18
behind them to support and have been
1:49:20
replicated and we can actually have
1:49:22
confidence in and they basically
1:49:23
filtered all when through filtered them
1:49:25
all out and came back to me in the team
1:49:27
and said here is a small selection of
1:49:30
things actually high quality or
1:49:33
reasonable quality work which you can
1:49:36
rely upon and here are the principles
1:49:38
that you can see in these studies that
1:49:40
have been replicated with randomized
1:49:41
control trials and whatnot in the States
1:49:43
we basically created a checklist of what
1:49:46
these things were and we built the
1:49:48
communications team around trying to
1:49:51
exploit each of these elements which the
1:49:54
which the which the physicists found
1:49:57
they also construct two models to help
1:50:01
direct resources on the ground campaigns
1:50:05
to where to actually send your activists
1:50:06
and the digital campaign how do you
1:50:09
actually do that in a in a scientific
1:50:10
way and essentially you had streams of
1:50:14
data coming in from all sorts of
1:50:16
different ways the website email on the
1:50:18
ground canvassing a social media pop law
1:50:22
all of this stuff is a traditional
1:50:24
polling all of this stuff coming in and
1:50:26
you had the data science people sitting
1:50:29
at the heart of the operation and
1:50:31
essentially taking our core messages and
1:50:34
just learning experimentally a whole
1:50:36
bunch of different things on Facebook
1:50:38
and asked
1:50:38
and then figuring out what what fees
1:50:40
work and what things don't work we
1:50:41
started off with a few small amounts of
1:50:43
money just to run this experimental
1:50:45
process so there's your a be testing he
1:50:48
had a small a small data set of proven
1:50:51
persuasion techniques and what I found
1:50:53
interesting which comes back in a minute
1:50:54
is he was also getting feedback from the
1:50:57
the campaigners on the ground this is
1:50:59
never mentioned but people with boots on
1:51:01
the ground who would go door to door and
1:51:04
they and this is the only time machine
1:51:06
learning was used they changed the way
1:51:09
and this is important they changed what
1:51:11
they used as polling data and he
1:51:13
explains would you have you kind of
1:51:15
polling so I'm sure all of you know the
1:51:18
polling methodology used throughout the
1:51:22
world is essentially the same system
1:51:23
that was invented in the late 1930s and
1:51:25
the idea of it is yo you take roughly
1:51:27
speaking a thousand person sample and if
1:51:30
it's random and representative then you
1:51:32
can rely on the mathematics of the
1:51:34
normal distribution and the famous bell
1:51:35
curve and you that should give you a
1:51:37
pretty accurate picture of what people
1:51:39
think for various reasons that is
1:51:41
becoming harder and harder to do happy
1:51:43
to answer questions about why that is
1:51:45
but leaving that aside what the
1:51:47
physicist said was this is actually not
1:51:49
the way that you would invent polling if
1:51:50
you were going to invent polling now the
1:51:53
way actually to do it is take massive
1:51:55
samples of hundreds of thousands of
1:51:58
people ideally actually millions of
1:52:00
people but say hundred thousands people
1:52:02
and then use machine learning and you
1:52:05
will actually have a system which is
1:52:07
faster cheaper more accurate and never
1:52:11
has nothing to advantage which we
1:52:12
exploited which is that if you do these
1:52:14
very large sample surveys you then have
1:52:17
subsample you can define the
1:52:18
demographics that you interrogate
1:52:21
yourself and what we did was we
1:52:23
basically used the exact same categories
1:52:25
in the demographics that Facebook uses
1:52:27
for its digital advertising platform so
1:52:30
we sucked in data on the precise same
1:52:34
basis that Facebook marketing allows and
1:52:37
then we had therefore large sub samples
1:52:41
of the overall polling samples which you
1:52:43
could actually rely on and then you
1:52:45
could take that data and plug it
1:52:47
straight back into Facebook so you could
1:52:49
say for example we will target
1:52:52
women between 35 and 45 who live in
1:52:55
these particular geographical entities
1:52:58
who don't have a degree or who do have a
1:53:00
degree or whatever
1:53:01
that's after cetera because you've got
1:53:03
very large samples you can actually get
1:53:05
useful information on those kind of
1:53:07
relatively small breakdowns
1:53:10
now I'm no marketing expert but this
1:53:12
sounds just like regular old
1:53:13
cross-indexing to me
1:53:16
yeah yeah I guess you could say that I
1:53:19
think it's right I mean you say that I
1:53:21
mean my shrink machine learning in this
1:53:22
case just machine learning it's bullcrap
1:53:24
yeah that part we know it just nothing
1:53:27
it's just uh just there is no such thing
1:53:29
as machine learning the machines don't
1:53:30
learn anything it's just the ability to
1:53:33
cross-reference cross-index these
1:53:35
categories disregard sorter so he
1:53:38
exactly so this is what that resulted in
1:53:44
so we did all this and we as I said we
1:53:48
essentially ran a whole series of
1:53:50
experiments based on what we found in
1:53:52
the conventional polling in the focus
1:53:53
groups out in digital world and then
1:53:55
filtered what what worked and then we
1:53:58
held back almost all of our budget and
1:54:00
then we basically dumped the entire
1:54:01
budget in the last ten days and really
1:54:06
in the last three or four days again
1:54:08
exactly what the Trump campaign did held
1:54:11
back and then just blew millions in the
1:54:14
last week in the last few days based
1:54:16
upon weeks and weeks of a be testing
1:54:19
this is exactly what the media does not
1:54:23
want to be passed around exactly and we
1:54:27
aimed it exactly but I think roughly
1:54:30
about seven million people saw something
1:54:34
like I think a billion in our heart one
1:54:36
and a half billion digital ads over a
1:54:41
relatively short short period of time
1:54:44
and in parallel to that you had the
1:54:46
whole ground operation which will also
1:54:47
to begin with they were quite skeptical
1:54:49
about this what the hell is some guy who
1:54:50
babbles on about quantum mechanics what
1:54:53
does he have to tell people who like me
1:54:54
have been going out to leaflet on
1:54:56
doorsteps for thirty years so people are
1:54:59
very skeptical but they do all the
1:55:01
ground you know if you've been doing
1:55:03
that job you actually respond well to
1:55:05
things that work so very quickly they
1:55:07
came back and said actually these
1:55:09
boffins have sent us to the right place
1:55:10
it's unbelievable these these are our
1:55:12
people so quickly that kind of trust
1:55:15
issue was sorted out inside the
1:55:18
organizer it's like the organization and
1:55:20
the ground team were happy to go where
1:55:22
the data suggested that there that their
1:55:23
efforts will be most useful do I think
1:55:25
this ground team is undervalued in the
1:55:28
overall scheme of
1:55:29
because they were basically saying
1:55:31
here's where the people live go knock on
1:55:32
their doors and they were getting good
1:55:34
results to a one major item that is no
1:55:39
longer discussed as a part of the brexit
1:55:42
vote and that was the I think was a Jill
1:55:44
Dando who was murdered was that her was
1:55:45
this the wrong one I don't I don't know
1:55:49
yeah it's the the murder the woman who
1:55:51
was murdered
1:55:54
she was a puller no no she was a
1:55:56
politician wasn't a joke ox I'm sorry
1:55:58
Joe Cox yes sure of the Labour Party she
1:56:01
was killed and and this is no right time
1:56:03
on the UK in the UK yes Jill Dando was a
1:56:06
different killing now this was Jill Cox
1:56:08
and she was killed on June 16th and that
1:56:11
was what just a few weeks before the
1:56:12
before the brexit vote and that changed
1:56:15
things dramatically but the elites they
1:56:18
had a different view as to what the rest
1:56:20
of the country had and this guy of
1:56:21
course saw that in his mass polling data
1:56:26
um and our campaign took a bunch of it
1:56:29
we know we all pushed on I'm sorry hold
1:56:30
on this is why did this happen was it
1:56:34
just immigration no it wasn't just
1:56:37
immigration giving people a chance to
1:56:39
vote for the NHS as well as voting
1:56:42
against the EU without that then the
1:56:45
economic scares or the establishment
1:56:47
would have been - you powerful and we
1:56:49
would have lost could we have won
1:56:51
without immigration absolutely not
1:56:52
the reality of it is that those three
1:56:55
big forces that I talked about created
1:56:57
the conditions in which we could win but
1:56:59
then you had the government making a
1:57:01
series of big mistakes and you had our
1:57:04
team which which managed to exploit it
1:57:05
and their mistakes essentially were
1:57:07
their renegotiation was a disaster
1:57:09
unlike inmate 75 when Wilson pulled the
1:57:12
same trick there he persuaded people
1:57:14
that the relationship had changed and
1:57:16
therefore the polls moved this time no
1:57:18
one believed what come and came back
1:57:19
with and in particular
1:57:21
Cameron never understood the danger for
1:57:23
him of coming back and saying
1:57:25
essentially nothing had changed on
1:57:26
immigration they also I think run it by
1:57:29
campaign they relied on people or M&C
1:57:31
Saatchi and various big advertising
1:57:33
agencies who did a fairly rubbish job
1:57:36
and they and they lived in the bubble
1:57:39
and you could see that in the last 10
1:57:40
days after the terrible murder they
1:57:43
essentially chained ditched their whole
1:57:46
campaign and stopped talking about
1:57:48
economic risks and turned the whole
1:57:50
thing just into a wig the good people
1:57:52
and your the bad people because that was
1:57:54
the self-reinforcing culture that you
1:57:56
heard in London whereas in fact as soon
1:57:58
as you went outside the m25 and did
1:58:00
market research the rest the country had
1:58:01
a totally different reaction to the
1:58:02
murder then then then people better
1:58:06
educated which of people living in
1:58:07
London did so without the fear of the
1:58:10
immigrant fear without the NHS fear that
1:58:14
you'll be paying 350 million extra a
1:58:16
week or whatever it was in your health
1:58:18
care it never would have worked but they
1:58:21
also completely misjudged the Joe Cox
1:58:23
murder and to wind it up he's going to
1:58:25
shoot a big middle finger to the media
1:58:28
the people who are supposed to know
1:58:29
better and know how these things work
1:58:31
and our campaign took a bunch of it we
1:58:33
know we operated on we're just on very
1:58:35
very simple tried and tested rules
1:58:37
that work about organizations we kept
1:58:39
the end piece out of all management no
1:58:41
MP had anything to do with the
1:58:42
management of the campaign it was run by
1:58:43
about six or ten people the oldest of
1:58:46
which was made youngest of whom was 21
1:58:48
so we kept this team small they worked
1:58:51
extremely hard they made a lot of
1:58:52
sacrifices and they focused on the
1:58:54
public not on the media and not on the
1:58:57
insider on the insider game I think in
1:59:01
the long run some of the things that we
1:59:03
try to do you can see all the parties
1:59:06
now are trying to learn from authorized
1:59:08
are trying to learn from some of the
1:59:09
things that we did I don't think that
1:59:12
we've done a very good job wise with
1:59:13
them in the last
1:59:14
Muskaan pain the reality is the most
1:59:17
communications companies are populated
1:59:19
by bullshitting charlatans most of them
1:59:23
should be fired and I think that in the
1:59:25
next ten years of massive chunk of them
1:59:27
will be fired and people are still
1:59:29
looking valley and others will
1:59:30
increasingly take over this industry the
1:59:32
way they've taken over other industries
1:59:34
and if you've got a not very good degree
1:59:36
in English or Gender Studies or
1:59:37
something like that then you're very
1:59:39
rapidly going to get I think you're
1:59:41
gonna get fired and the industry will go
1:59:42
through the kind of change that other
1:59:44
industries have seen there you go yeah
1:59:52
get a degree in gender studies that's
1:59:55
really a winner
1:59:56
well that was interesting I think
1:59:58
there's a little long yeah it was but I
2:00:00
think some people may have been bored I
2:00:01
liked it because I'm interested in this
2:00:03
stuff to an extreme yes and why I think
2:00:07
it was important to do it a little
2:00:09
longer is that if we watch this movie
2:00:11
Monday I wonder how much of the truth of
2:00:13
what he really did comes back into the
2:00:16
creative product probably none I think
2:00:19
he got Facebook information and then you
2:00:22
did it proper none none probably none
2:00:28
this is movie it's a piece of propaganda
2:00:30
obviously it's designed for exactly what
2:00:33
you said I definitely want to watch it
2:00:35
and it will probably have some effect
2:00:38
but you know this constant hounding and
2:00:41
hounding by the medium and easy they
2:00:43
can't really be overlooked even though
2:00:45
he thinks that you know these guys are a
2:00:46
bunch of screw-ups but it can't be
2:00:49
overlooked about how
2:00:50
never-ending hounding and hounding at me
2:00:52
when you go to the bank T of the day and
2:00:54
like one of the tellers is depressed and
2:00:56
you know she thinks that world's coming
2:00:58
to an end and all the rest of us
2:00:59
watching the news and news she's
2:01:01
watching the network news and it's just
2:01:03
not a healthy environment for most
2:01:06
people but the conundrums day off of TV
2:01:08
I mean so we're not the only people
2:01:11
seeing this there's no there's people in
2:01:12
Washington DC and other political power
2:01:15
and they see this and so here's the
2:01:17
conundrum do we all go out and hire this
2:01:21
guy or guys like him and dive into this
2:01:24
or do we see the danger and that anyone
2:01:28
could do this and do we need to regulate
2:01:30
it nothing to regulate it but just
2:01:34
targeted advertising is oh it's just a
2:01:36
form oh I know I know but you got to put
2:01:39
yourself into a moronic no one's gonna
2:01:42
do anything about it no but they will
2:01:45
try well they're just wasting time they
2:01:48
should probably learn from the guy yeah
2:01:54
I'm always surprised it's just the same
2:01:56
way he got to repeat them the right
2:01:58
message over and over and over again to
2:02:02
the right people yeah but so what else
2:02:04
is new
2:02:05
the guy just found the people
2:02:07
try to use the new methodology to find
2:02:09
the people yeah I mean that's what these
2:02:11
two marketing people have always been
2:02:13
doing all their lives is from the
2:02:16
beginning of the idea to the answer the
2:02:18
most recent they're just trying to find
2:02:19
these people that's why Facebook is so
2:02:21
appealing because they claim they've got
2:02:23
a key to the kingdom they got a way of
2:02:25
finding the people you're looking for
2:02:27
you're looking for this person because
2:02:28
this person wants to buy your product we
2:02:31
have them right here in this little box
2:02:33
I am so happy we don't have to do that
2:02:39
no we know what I actually enjoy about
2:02:42
this show is that our audiences
2:02:44
everybody in fact we did a meet up on
2:02:47
first tell me about the minute yes says
2:02:49
this is boots on the ground for me you
2:02:53
got we had about 32 to 37 people show up
2:02:56
which was a lot cuz it was a flash
2:02:58
meetup we just threw it together in the
2:03:00
last minute how many people about 37 not
2:03:03
bad for a flash no not bad not bad it's
2:03:06
very good actually and it was all you
2:03:10
know the to classic no agenda Maven's a
2:03:12
little different slightly different and
2:03:15
that there were a little more academics
2:03:17
I think then for example in Seattle
2:03:19
there's very few I mean by academics I
2:03:22
don't mean their professors I mean they
2:03:24
work at the University there's a at
2:03:27
least two or maybe three librarians
2:03:29
there Oh including some interesting ones
2:03:33
do they have do they go stop stop stop
2:03:36
do they have a hair in a bun and glasses
2:03:39
that they could then undo the bar oh oh
2:03:41
well do they have a bun hello buns the
2:03:47
place okay you know I used to be a
2:03:50
spokesperson for the American Library
2:03:53
Association give us your pitch I don't
2:03:58
remember they use my picture on posters
2:04:00
I was more of a poster boy I wasn't the
2:04:02
spokesperson I was a poster boy
2:04:04
literally pretty face yep it was a good
2:04:08
group I learned a lot I got some
2:04:10
interesting little tidbits which I'll
2:04:11
bring into the show I don't have today I
2:04:13
didn't bring there the the contributions
2:04:16
in the prescribed envelope are still in
2:04:20
a in a big processing with him I'm gonna
2:04:22
put him in a Thursday show did he take
2:04:24
him home again
2:04:26
sorry didn't mean me take the envelope
2:04:28
home no there's no it's a bunch of
2:04:31
envelopes you want your envelope just
2:04:32
kidding and their invite my back pocket
2:04:34
that's what immediately go and they get
2:04:36
fair process processed but it was a good
2:04:41
group and it was good places Gilman
2:04:44
breweries a kind of a Belgian beer house
2:04:46
Moriah house and as they make
2:04:48
interesting products including a lager
2:04:50
that's quite tasty anyway was but this
2:04:54
is we need to do more of these but you
2:04:55
can't I did have one guy which I led a
2:05:00
sea was there and JC could talk to talk
2:05:03
when it comes to this sort of thing this
2:05:04
guy is Polish big guy and he's going on
2:05:08
he's a troubleshooter for a bunch of
2:05:10
Silicon Valley operations right now
2:05:12
looking for work and he's given greeting
2:05:14
me the riot act about how the Silicon
2:05:17
Valley is turned into a bunch of left
2:05:18
wingers and this has to do with agile
2:05:20
the reason the style of work that you
2:05:26
were selling a lot of oh my explain this
2:05:28
agile what is this agile is I just in a
2:05:31
nutshell is where you bullshit you're
2:05:33
everybody's bullshitting each other so
2:05:35
there's no oh you fake it till you make
2:05:37
it nothing ever gets done and he's got
2:05:41
this theory that this creates a lying
2:05:43
environment which is called which is fit
2:05:46
for the lefties there's a long story but
2:05:49
he wants us to cover this more he goes
2:05:50
you're not talking about how terrible it
2:05:53
isn't Silicon Valley how they all become
2:05:55
left wingers I said well when I was a
2:05:56
kid they were all right wingers and he
2:05:58
says you should cover that more and I
2:05:59
tried to say to him and I'm gonna say it
2:06:01
to everybody else who tries to do this
2:06:03
to do certain things we deconstruct the
2:06:06
news but now we don't initiate coverage
2:06:10
unless there's something that initiates
2:06:11
it for us I mean we have out of the blue
2:06:14
come up with a couple of little things
2:06:16
that look like we initiated but in fact
2:06:18
it comes from information that we're
2:06:19
deconstructing and it's and there's
2:06:21
nothing to deconstruct here
2:06:23
Silicon Valley is just a bunch of
2:06:25
a-holes oh hey well done you nailed it
2:06:29
yeah it's very hard to get people to
2:06:34
realize we're not investigative
2:06:37
reporters
2:06:38
we're not you know we are D
2:06:41
constructionists period and that's what
2:06:44
we do and if there's nothing to
2:06:45
deconstruct there's nothing for us to
2:06:48
talk about but there's plenty to
2:06:49
deconstruct let alone start making stuff
2:06:51
up so you know you should talk to my son
2:06:55
and so I JC over there who could talk
2:06:58
for days about management in Silicon
2:07:01
Valley Oh better that was that I put him
2:07:04
over there and the hour later is still
2:07:05
there you know he's this guy's was funny
2:07:08
to watch it's like a heavyweight boxing
2:07:10
champ did you talk to anyone else was
2:07:12
there any it was not do a lot of people
2:07:13
I didn't talk to that guy that much
2:07:14
because I I couldn't keep hearing this I
2:07:17
talk to everybody out there wasn't maybe
2:07:20
one or two people choices a guy could
2:07:22
keep talked about football with a guy
2:07:24
from Alabama and his girlfriend are
2:07:26
moving in Arizona eventually I talked I
2:07:27
talked about it it was very it was a
2:07:29
great meet of lots of good shit
2:07:31
conversations good I remember 22nd of
2:07:35
February is the Boise Idaho and I'm
2:07:38
Boise Idaho the Des Moines Iowa Meetup
2:07:40
there's a desk would people have been
2:07:42
pestering me about 22nd of February yes
2:07:46
yes we want to go to it hello it's
2:07:50
because we're there that there's a
2:07:51
meet-up okay yeah that's my second we're
2:07:55
actually flying in early to do the
2:07:57
meetup that's uh I think it's trill to
2:07:59
pack them in I have no idea how many
2:08:01
producers we have in the Midwest no idea
2:08:05
you know come in from Chicago yeah they
2:08:08
might they might and Milwaukee so lots
2:08:11
of time to plan for that and actually we
2:08:12
had dinner with uh with marks or mark
2:08:15
the art a staff documentary and last
2:08:18
night he's all jacked about Mark Hall
2:08:22
he's all mark jacked about the Texas
2:08:24
Meetup which is still in the works
2:08:26
people stay tuned it's coming I promise
2:08:27
you no agenda imagine all the people who
2:08:33
could do is awesome oh yeah
2:08:41
and I should measure the dude or one of
2:08:44
our dudes named Mohammed was at the idea
2:08:47
did he have his headgear on no so let's
2:08:52
thank a few people we don't have that
2:08:53
many on this list today but let's start
2:08:55
with Joseph Costello in Pittston
2:08:56
Pennsylvania he's starting a Dame
2:08:59
account for his lovely wife Mary she
2:09:05
used to tolerate by listening to the
2:09:07
show but has become a true fan we had a
2:09:11
lot of anecdotal stories about that sort
2:09:13
of thing good to me well these are this
2:09:15
is the times when these things happen
2:09:17
where people turn
2:09:19
yeah yep her blam $110 intended that was
2:09:24
a 100 Levin dollars Levin census her
2:09:25
blam $110 sir her blam to you 110
2:09:29
dollars and 10 cents or her Blandy by
2:09:31
he's the by count of Georgia yes sir
2:09:34
Austin of the snowy Cascades 110 dollars
2:09:37
and 10 cents and Sammamish Washington
2:09:39
and he says he'd like Karma for his wife
2:09:42
Laura big big week next week for her in
2:09:44
job search with multiple interviews yes
2:09:46
coming up for her Jonathan has 110
2:09:50
dollars in deutschland although George
2:09:51
saw pests SS Rick Cable $100 now he
2:09:58
wants karma for his son Matt Cable who's
2:10:00
deploying overseas this week for
2:10:02
seven-month deployment
2:10:04
and put Dan hey listen he says his son
2:10:08
Matt was actually on the rocks new
2:10:09
fitness challenge show Titan II Ames
2:10:13
yeah we got that guy to those challenge
2:10:21
those are tough guys it's no joke
2:10:24
alright karma coming up for him of
2:10:26
course those shows are meant to
2:10:27
humiliate these people I'm not mad Dane
2:10:31
Coleman 8205 he's gonna be a knight he's
2:10:36
gonna be the knight at night today you
2:10:37
know when you read his notes since he's
2:10:39
becoming a knight today I become a
2:10:40
knight of the nodes in a roundtable the
2:10:42
show has been a consistent and
2:10:43
significant part of my life for the
2:10:45
better part of my 20s and into my 30s
2:10:47
helping me to laugh at the news think
2:10:49
critically and maintain reason and
2:10:51
response in this age of political
2:10:53
poppycock and climate fear-mongering I'd
2:10:56
like to be known as Sir Dane the great
2:10:58
and I'm requesting Highlander grog and
2:11:00
hash brownies at the round table
2:11:03
let me make sure I order that so it's
2:11:06
there and requesting small business
2:11:08
karma please he co-founded a design and
2:11:11
digital media company at Ruef dot-com
2:11:16
Ruth Ruth are you EF calm cheers fellas
2:11:19
keep up the fantastic work the show is
2:11:21
always stellar but has been on fire
2:11:23
lately thank you very much and I'm
2:11:25
putting your request at the table as we
2:11:28
speak so he's actually named is put his
2:11:31
name is upon on Great Dane the giant dog
2:11:34
yes Tim white 800 801 and only boobed
2:11:39
today sir phenom 69 16 Appleton
2:11:42
Wisconsin's Richard Terry in Houston
2:11:45
Texas 5510 Michael gates 5280 and the
2:11:50
following people as we wrap it up
2:11:52
quickly are all $50 donors name and
2:11:56
donations starting with Paul then
2:11:58
chordal are in I am wooden now almost a
2:12:01
moutain
2:12:02
I'm out in very good and for some reason
2:12:06
when you and I should tell this to
2:12:07
people when you're saying these Dutch
2:12:10
names you have to yell yes yes doesn't
2:12:14
work otherwise
2:12:17
Alexander bun
2:12:20
ponter is I think Fonterra's Fonterra's
2:12:23
maybe in Jacksonville Florida Todd Moore
2:12:26
in Arlington Virginia Andrew Martin in
2:12:29
Sydney New South Wales Australia víctor
2:12:33
muñoz in Miami Andre
2:12:38
meta tech parts unknown Villarreal
2:12:41
Villarreal in Mercedes Texas and Matthew
2:12:44
Janiszewski sir mention to you Matthew
2:12:47
Janiszewski
2:12:48
sir Matthew in Chicago and last but not
2:12:51
least are Bret Ferrell over and sir Bret
2:12:54
Farah over in Oklahoma City at least
2:12:56
that's where I think he's from that's
2:12:58
where the bank is ah
2:12:59
the address is never on the cheque then
2:13:02
Richard Terry with his double nickels on
2:13:04
the dime wanted some F cancer karma as
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well so we'll make sure it make sure we
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mmm Oh what do we got I got a couple
2:15:23
things I was hoping you would have yeah
2:15:28
here's some reports from that we don't
2:15:30
get in the United States at all I don't
2:15:31
know why this one doesn't get some play
2:15:33
but let's play killing mayor's in Mexico
2:15:36
yes it's a nuisance killing him it's a
2:15:39
new sport in Mexico human rights groups
2:15:41
and family members are demanding justice
2:15:43
after the mayor of a town in the
2:15:44
southern state of Oaxaca was gunned down
2:15:46
New Year's Day just hours after taking
2:15:48
office alejandro Aparicio was surrounded
2:15:52
by supporters and publicly touring city
2:15:54
offices when he was shot on the street
2:15:56
the gunman was pinned to the ground
2:15:58
until police could arrive to arrest him
2:16:00
he's been described as a 34 year old
2:16:02
former police officer from northern
2:16:04
Mexico a Padilla's Widow Victoria
2:16:07
fethiye believes the killer and not did
2:16:10
not act on his own but I guess we want
2:16:15
to do everything possible to clarify
2:16:17
this murder because there can be no
2:16:18
impunity that is what we are asking for
2:16:21
as a family here to clarify the killing
2:16:23
and to support us Padilla was a member
2:16:26
of the Progressive Party of Mexican
2:16:28
President Andres Manuel Lopez Obrador
2:16:29
his death came as human rights
2:16:31
researchers said 175 Mexican politicians
2:16:35
were killed over a 12-month period
2:16:36
ending last August geez dropping like
2:16:40
flies way to go man you ever run in our
2:16:42
country yeah I don't know why just
2:16:46
didn't get more play because I had a lot
2:16:47
of fun with it I only have a very short
2:16:49
report from the Canadian Broadcasting
2:16:50
Company on the German hack oh yes
2:16:53
there's very little there's some
2:16:54
European reporting that I picked up I'm
2:16:56
glad you have a clip in Germany hundreds
2:16:58
of politicians that all levels of
2:16:59
government have been hit by a massive
2:17:01
data breach it reportedly includes
2:17:04
addresses cell phone numbers credit card
2:17:06
details internal communications at least
2:17:09
some of it was leaked through Twitter we
2:17:11
don't know who's behind the breach but
2:17:13
officials say all but one party was
2:17:15
specifically targeted now let's just
2:17:18
stop for a second here which is the
2:17:21
party that wasn't targeted the AFD okay
2:17:25
yeah it's the you know the new guys the
2:17:28
Trump guys basically the the model to
2:17:31
make the magaz that make Germany great
2:17:33
again people
2:17:34
the alternate even feared Deutschland
2:17:36
AFD but it wasn't just politician was
2:17:38
also celebreties there's all kinds of
2:17:41
stuff in here and it's from cloud
2:17:43
accounts it's not just from in fact
2:17:46
Thank You cloud yes yeah it seems like
2:17:51
it seems like there's some good stuff
2:17:53
out there you know this if anybody we
2:17:57
have a lot of dues they've been if
2:17:58
anyone can get us a I'm sure I don't
2:18:01
know what the size of this file is but
2:18:03
I'd sure like to take a look at this
2:18:04
stuff
2:18:05
yeah how about this dark overlord thing
2:18:08
though this is not getting a lot of play
2:18:10
but I'm seeing people getting very
2:18:12
worried about this this is the this is
2:18:17
the group the dark overlord who are New
2:18:21
Year's Eve says hey we have 18,000
2:18:23
documents related to September 11 2001
2:18:26
terrorist attacks in particular
2:18:29
documentation about the insurance
2:18:32
policies of I guess the World Trade
2:18:35
Center all dealing guy who bought it who
2:18:38
bought the Trade Center like if not so
2:18:41
long before that collapses yeah was
2:18:43
silverstein it was well known they took
2:18:45
out these big insurance policies just
2:18:47
before the thing was leveled well so
2:18:49
they're slowly releasing pieces of
2:18:51
information which nothing
2:18:53
earth-shattering yet but it does seem
2:18:55
like people in Washington are worried
2:18:57
about this I'm not quite sure why what
2:19:00
do they have to hide there must be
2:19:02
something there must be something
2:19:04
worried about and they say pay the eff
2:19:06
up or we're going to bury you in this as
2:19:09
the dark Overlord group or the dark
2:19:11
Overlord person and money's he asking me
2:19:15
for I don't think he's asking for money
2:19:17
as a toy he's asking for money they what
2:19:20
are they doing
2:19:22
yeah however you'll be paying us yeah so
2:19:24
he wants to be paid or they want to be
2:19:27
paid I guess they've released some
2:19:28
decryption keys which do unlock some
2:19:32
some documents they have some proof
2:19:35
yeah well this the same with the tribune
2:19:39
company that was it that was a total
2:19:40
ransomware problem they ran into yeah
2:19:42
that was recent yeah yeah I said the
2:19:45
ransomware thing was over I thought
2:19:46
people had protections against that I
2:19:48
think I'm over some your scheme no oh
2:19:52
and then this obvious one
2:20:07
this is Russia's word against Whelan and
2:20:10
Whelan's family this is the American
2:20:12
Whalen whe LAN who has been detained in
2:20:15
Russia as a spies word Russia say that
2:20:18
he was caught red-handed in the act of
2:20:19
espionage and Whelan's family insist he
2:20:22
was just there for a wedding
2:20:23
Raina's lawyer is not seeking bail and
2:20:26
Russian courts have till the 24th to
2:20:28
decide Russian media is also claiming
2:20:30
now that Whalen spent the last decade
2:20:32
developing a network of contacts in
2:20:34
Russia using social media leading up to
2:20:36
his arrest last week supposedly with a
2:20:38
flash drive containing a list of
2:20:40
employees from a secret russian
2:20:42
department Whalen's family says he just
2:20:45
loves traveling he loves Russia he was
2:20:47
helping to arrange a friend's wedding
2:20:48
much remains unknown about Whalen who
2:20:51
lives in this house in Michigan it's
2:20:53
emerged that he is also a Canadian
2:20:55
citizen as British citizen possibly an
2:20:57
Irish citizen and today the British
2:21:00
Foreign Minister also spoke out I'm
2:21:04
telling you you got four passports you
2:21:07
know I love the cover
2:21:09
I talked to agent orange about this the
2:21:11
cover of him having an honorable
2:21:13
discharge from the military total cover
2:21:16
this guy is a spook duh hello is this
2:21:20
like questions of all what does oh and
2:21:23
of course it's retaliation for locking
2:21:26
up the Russian spy yes McMartin Betina
2:21:29
what's her name yeah I can't remember
2:21:31
her name yeah because they're not
2:21:33
registered agents you have to understand
2:21:35
in the intelligence game you have
2:21:36
registered agents if you're an agent for
2:21:38
another country which usually means
2:21:40
you're just paying off people with money
2:21:41
it's called lobbying in America you're a
2:21:43
spy and you register me at diplomat spy
2:21:48
diplomats by same thing and if you don't
2:21:51
if you're not registered in every
2:21:53
country as unregistered agents in each
2:21:55
other's countries you get caught yeah or
2:21:56
that's pretty much they're known to be
2:21:58
agents you take one of ours good want to
2:22:00
take one of yours I think the difference
2:22:02
is the FSB will actually tell everyone
2:22:05
what this guy did we don't even we don't
2:22:09
have anything on Bettina other than whoa
2:22:11
she was lobbying truce Leo nobody know
2:22:14
what she did that's one of the reasons
2:22:16
this is one of the funny bits about it
2:22:18
so yes and no agenda confirms the guy's
2:22:22
got to be a spook course for passports
2:22:27
huh
2:22:28
you know why he's just that passport
2:22:29
hobbyist I want to see how many
2:22:32
countries I can become get a passport
2:22:35
that's my job that's what I do you
2:22:37
really I mean so he you know if you have
2:22:39
a it's not easy to get multiple
2:22:41
passports as a US citizen they do
2:22:43
complain you know
2:22:45
they're like what you want to be a US
2:22:47
citizen or something else well in my
2:22:49
daughter's case my mom's Dutch okay will
2:22:51
allow that then you know what I had four
2:22:55
different countries hmm no no no that's
2:22:59
all we know of he may have other
2:23:01
passports buried somewhere
2:23:04
you just don't know yes all right I
2:23:07
don't have a clip on that I just thought
2:23:09
it would be worth discussing I do have
2:23:11
some more other weird stuff that is not
2:23:12
being discussed all we do have the flu
2:23:15
season thing get happening it's not
2:23:16
being promoted as much in this country
2:23:18
but apparently this last this batch of
2:23:21
the flu has already killed a few people
2:23:22
but in Canada they're all freaked out
2:23:24
because it got off to an early start and
2:23:26
started spreading before any we could do
2:23:28
much about so let's play our gratuitous
2:23:31
and probably yearly flu season clip
2:23:34
shaping up to be a particularly brutal
2:23:37
flu season in Canada now of course the
2:23:40
flu can be more than just unpleasant it
2:23:42
can be dangerous and even deadly well
2:23:44
new numbers are out today and the number
2:23:46
of cases has gone through the roof and
2:23:49
one particular strain is doing most of
2:23:51
the damage so far this flu season there
2:23:55
have been more than 13,000 lab confirmed
2:23:58
cases in Canada 11,000 of those were
2:24:01
variations of influenza A with h1n1 as
2:24:04
the dominant strain it's a big jump in
2:24:07
cases nearly 50% over this time last
2:24:09
year with about two-thirds of them
2:24:11
hitting young otherwise healthy adults
2:24:14
those people who might not think they're
2:24:16
particularly vulnerable but that's how
2:24:18
h1n1 tends to operate already I mean
2:24:21
isn't this the swine flu h1n1 is swine
2:24:26
flu I think h1n1 is wine flu but it's
2:24:29
not but it's not version a um I think if
2:24:35
it is anything close to swine flu they
2:24:37
always call it swine flu hmm I don't
2:24:40
know now as you mention it you're right
2:24:42
24 Canadians have died now health
2:24:45
officials say it's not too late to get
2:24:48
the flu shot
2:24:49
far from it they're still months left in
2:24:50
the season and what's more this year's
2:24:52
vaccine is proving more effective than
2:24:54
in years past now it's the bird flu h1n1
2:24:56
is the bird flu in five was the bird flu
2:25:01
okay kid let's figure out as cowspiracy
2:25:03
tells us that is welcome news for those
2:25:06
who've been devastated by the virus in
2:25:08
the worst possible way there's - with
2:25:12
this crackers not swine flu the flu
2:25:13
season is an unusually painful time of
2:25:17
the year for Jill Primeau Leigh in 2016
2:25:20
her little boy Jude died from the flu
2:25:23
even though he'd been vaccinated a few
2:25:25
months earlier so when we get to this
2:25:27
point every year it's it's stressful all
2:25:29
over again and and just really sad
2:25:31
because I know there are going to be
2:25:33
thousands of more families like mine
2:25:34
where people are going to lose their
2:25:36
lives and their loved ones from this
2:25:38
preventable disease health officials
2:25:40
have said it's rare for people to die
2:25:42
from infectious diseases they've been
2:25:45
vaccinated against it is the swine flu
2:25:48
yeah h1n1 is the swine flu
2:25:55
I'd know laid the jig well this is
2:25:58
Canada so they're not pushing that debt
2:26:00
meme and maybe that has something to do
2:26:03
it bird flu h5n1 yeah I remember getting
2:26:06
swine flu when I was in San Francisco
2:26:10
would it cost I just remember being in
2:26:15
bed for a couple days I stopped smoking
2:26:17
and that was good I'm still hearing am a
2:26:21
flu No
2:26:23
no I even knew you at the time he hadn't
2:26:25
even didn't even offer to each let me
2:26:26
suffer oh it's funny I don't remember
2:26:34
this this is a new story micro-services
2:26:37
architecture moving right along your
2:26:40
speciality your beat my complaint your
2:26:44
complaint but also your betta is
2:26:45
CenturyLink the CenturyLink 911 call
2:26:50
outage did you look into this did you
2:26:53
find out what this was yeah it was a
2:26:55
network at some sort of network card
2:26:57
that blew up it was just a hardware
2:26:59
failure Oh like with anything else in a
2:27:02
microservices architected environment
2:27:04
one thing goes out there's more than one
2:27:06
or two single points of failure and that
2:27:09
I mean it doesn't have to be you can
2:27:11
have redundancy if you were no no why
2:27:14
bother I was able to ever happen to the
2:27:17
checksum what happened to CRC there were
2:27:20
all these things that used to have
2:27:21
memories I remember when the IBM PC came
2:27:23
out they'd have a you could buy cheap
2:27:24
memory which had all the bits and then
2:27:26
there was a more expensive memory they
2:27:28
had to load a little extra chip a parody
2:27:32
chip to make sure that the memory was
2:27:34
doing its thing and it was accurate you
2:27:36
had the parity chip cause too much where
2:27:40
they don't even work 90% of the time who
2:27:42
cares we don't oh I didn't know anything
2:27:43
about this what is this magical chip do
2:27:47
the magical chip I think it could
2:27:49
maintain I'm not sure anymore I used to
2:27:52
know but I think it maintains some like
2:27:54
a checksum value for the wood was in the
2:27:56
memory itself and if that and it would
2:27:58
check against it right and if it got a
2:28:02
different hash or a different check saw
2:28:04
something and it would said I know
2:28:06
there's no good memories gone bad and
2:28:08
that we don't have that anymore there's
2:28:10
no reason for it because it's like the
2:28:11
failure rate is so low right with the
2:28:14
way things are that you don't care and
2:28:16
so you just let this thing slide and I
2:28:18
think that's what happened with this
2:28:19
instead of having a backup a redundant a
2:28:21
network card I'm pretty sure it does
2:28:23
what it was when I read yes I was able
2:28:30
to find a clip with someone in charge
2:28:32
over there at CenturyLink for the first
2:28:34
time since this outage I was able to
2:28:36
talk to someone from CenturyLink on
2:28:37
camera just a short time ago the bottom
2:28:40
line here is that well yes this system
2:28:43
is back up and running they still don't
2:28:46
know exactly what went wrong and they're
2:28:48
trying to figure that out what are you
2:28:50
doing to make sure something like this
2:28:51
doesn't happen again it's a great
2:28:53
question we feel very confident the
2:28:58
system is stable it's up and running we
2:29:00
don't anticipate any issues days after a
2:29:02
911 in Washington caused 4,500 calls to
2:29:06
fail
2:29:07
CenturyLink that telecommunications
2:29:09
company responsible says they're
2:29:11
narrowing in on the problem but still
2:29:13
can't tell us exactly what caused that
2:29:15
six-hour failure they know the outage
2:29:18
was due to a technical error in a
2:29:20
third-party vendors call router but when
2:29:23
I asked what that technical error was
2:29:25
they said they don't know so right now
2:29:28
we need to break down every point of
2:29:30
contact between the 911 1 Center in
2:29:33
Washington or centers and the center of
2:29:35
CenturyLink data centers as well to make
2:29:37
sure we've exactly found the reason for
2:29:39
the outage and how are we going to fix
2:29:40
it prevent it in the future
2:29:42
the Washington emergency management
2:29:43
division believes the 911 system is
2:29:45
stable now
2:29:47
but it still wants assurances from
2:29:49
Century Lake something like this won't
2:29:51
happen again the thing about this clip
2:29:54
from 2014
2:29:57
haha and they were fine sixteen million
2:30:01
dollars for it
2:30:04
no one told you that huh second time
2:30:07
this has happened with these guys this
2:30:09
is the problem with this architect this
2:30:11
micro-services architecture and he is
2:30:13
probably right I mean I don't see how
2:30:15
you get the thing back online without
2:30:16
knowing what cost but I just can't
2:30:17
believe that this is from 2014 and now
2:30:20
we're five years later and it happens
2:30:22
again exact same thing I'm sure it is
2:30:25
the exact same thing
2:30:27
yeah yeah as a single point of failure
2:30:29
that failed again again for five years
2:30:34
five years and it stops working I mean
2:30:36
this happens if anyone has had a
2:30:37
computer nowadays we start to see the
2:30:40
evidence of this of this hardware issues
2:30:43
in the environment because when when in
2:30:47
this late 70s 8 and throughout the
2:30:49
entire 80s and then probably half of the
2:30:51
90s we were buying brand-new computers
2:30:55
at the rate of about one every year and
2:30:58
a half so if you had a computer you had
2:31:01
to get a new one every year and a half
2:31:02
to two years two years is really keeping
2:31:04
an old clunker alive right because of
2:31:07
all these new drivers and the new
2:31:08
peripherals and all these other things
2:31:09
you're buying and the new chips made a
2:31:11
difference so you were buying in the 80s
2:31:14
for sure you are buying a new computer
2:31:16
every year and a half but since most
2:31:19
recently we don't if the failure you
2:31:22
know there's nothing happening that's so
2:31:24
important that we got to get a new
2:31:26
computers the same old Microsoft Office
2:31:28
it's the same old Intel chips you know
2:31:31
you don't need to do any so you keep the
2:31:33
machines longer and now we're starting
2:31:35
to see that they do crap out after about
2:31:37
five years most computers if you have
2:31:40
one old five year old computer the
2:31:42
likelihood of it blowing up is pretty
2:31:44
high and we're seeing actually exploding
2:31:47
a real kinetic event it actually
2:31:50
happened wasn't one of mine capacitor
2:31:53
blew up and it sounds like a bomb one
2:31:55
that's got a cap going we'll do it for
2:31:57
you yeah that'll but the point is is
2:31:59
that these machines don't last forever
2:32:02
no and I think apples gonna start
2:32:05
putting more of that not lasting forever
2:32:07
into their new devices because I got to
2:32:09
do something
2:32:10
I gotta get people upgrading well
2:32:13
they're so slacked on the Mac they don't
2:32:16
want to really they're not doing enough
2:32:18
work there so they're not selling enough
2:32:20
and they but they I think with their
2:32:22
iPhone it just breaks constantly I think
2:32:25
mode I don't know anyone without a
2:32:26
broken one well you mean the glass yeah
2:32:29
yeah that's that's the weakest part
2:32:33
or that's really their their main thing
2:32:35
that's but I'm you know I'm around a lot
2:32:38
of Millennials lately certainly in the
2:32:40
Christmas break
2:32:40
they all got crack screens they don't
2:32:43
care yeah they're not not replacing
2:32:45
magma greens cracked
2:32:46
maybe I'll go and get it fixed maybe not
2:32:48
as long as they can still see it it's
2:32:52
just too expensive can't afford it
2:32:57
I don't know and the next phone I'm
2:32:58
getting cuz my phone is finally getting
2:33:00
pretty yeah which one do you have I
2:33:02
still have a Nexus galaxy nice and the
2:33:06
cool thing about is you could take the
2:33:08
back off and change the battery yes
2:33:11
but I think I'm gonna get a wall way why
2:33:14
don't you just go for the East 71 the
2:33:15
Nokia like I have
2:33:20
it fits your image I think I already
2:33:23
have one you probably do I have an
2:33:26
original it's such a good phone that was
2:33:29
a good phone in this day it's still a
2:33:31
great phone yeah it's got a nice
2:33:33
keyboard it's got a great keyboard we
2:33:36
can go on like this forever
2:33:38
this is if I've tried nice finish is
2:33:40
pretty it does
2:33:42
I dropped it the other day stepping out
2:33:43
of the truck yeah yeah nothing
2:33:46
you had no the moment that all you got
2:33:50
but you had instance in your past where
2:33:54
you dropped him phone in the toilet that
2:33:56
was the very first iPhone
2:33:59
that was the first I've 80-71 at the
2:34:01
toilet you think it would survive hell
2:34:02
yeah I don't know with those buttons and
2:34:05
the mechanics and oh yeah I've dropped
2:34:07
t---seventy ones in the toilet before
2:34:09
I've dropped it in all kinds of stuff
2:34:10
it's an indestructible phone you know
2:34:13
the the Symbian OS has been open sourced
2:34:16
someone could totally rejigger that for
2:34:19
for all kinds of different hardware I
2:34:21
don't know why somebody hasn't yeah
2:34:26
I used to write columns about this you
2:34:28
know when there's somebody abandons
2:34:29
things sometimes they you know sometimes
2:34:32
they can sometimes they can I mean with
2:34:33
the os/2 always thought should have been
2:34:35
put into the public domain by IBM but
2:34:38
apparently some you know the problem
2:34:40
with doing that there's some stuff that
2:34:41
probably was like maybe shouldn't be in
2:34:43
there and anyone anyone seeing it who
2:34:45
knows but I think if you abandon a
2:34:50
product I think you should push it into
2:34:53
the public domain because a lot of
2:34:54
people may have been reliant on the
2:34:56
product yeah Microsoft is doing a lot of
2:34:58
that actually
2:35:00
there there you know a lot of their
2:35:02
older stuff they're open sourcing dass
2:35:04
sakes I tell me Microsoft will run on
2:35:08
Linux in our lifetime windows
2:35:11
it'll be Windows on top of Linux I'm
2:35:13
telling you it's coming it's coming
2:35:15
possible a quick look in this is now act
2:35:19
8 of the yellow vests in fancy to keep
2:35:24
up with over the weekend it has yeah
2:35:26
it's not the same amount of people it's
2:35:28
only 50,000 across the country the
2:35:30
majority at the inn in Paris it's the
2:35:33
yellow vest movements first round of
2:35:35
protests in 2019 and many say they're
2:35:37
determined to continue all year on
2:35:40
Saturday at least 50,000 protesters came
2:35:42
out across France for the 8th straight
2:35:44
week of demonstrations though the
2:35:46
protests remain largely peaceful in the
2:35:48
morning clashes with authorities broke
2:35:50
out in multiple cities early on into the
2:35:52
evening in central Paris riders torched
2:35:54
cars and set barricades on fire
2:35:56
elsewhere in the capital protesters
2:35:58
launched projectiles at police officers
2:36:00
responded with tear gas
2:36:01
now you remember Mac wrong in his New
2:36:03
Year's address we played the clip he
2:36:05
said oh these are just the people who
2:36:07
hate the Jews they hate the LGBT they
2:36:09
just hate this is horrible haters though
2:36:11
the scale of the protests has decreased
2:36:13
in reason did you like my Mac Ron was
2:36:15
pretty good about continued mobilizing
2:36:20
saying the government's recent
2:36:21
concessions are not enough
2:36:23
we've been tightening our belts for 15
2:36:26
20 years we've had enough we're still in
2:36:28
an era of nobles and serfs in 2019 we've
2:36:31
had enough of being dragged around by
2:36:33
those in power who looks down on us they
2:36:35
look down on the people who trampled all
2:36:37
over us of Macomb who says were nothing
2:36:40
that were a crowd full of hate even
2:36:42
though we've just shown that this
2:36:43
demonstration was amazing peaceful so
2:36:46
there was no trouble in response to
2:36:48
Saturday's tensions Interior Minister
2:36:50
Christophe casanare held an emergency
2:36:52
Crisis Response meeting in the capital
2:36:54
and urged protesters to respect the rule
2:36:57
of law now I stand with the yellow vests
2:36:59
man these guys are great those are
2:37:01
patriots right they're not given up
2:37:04
screw you
2:37:05
what do you say we still live in the
2:37:07
land of sirs and Lords here
2:37:10
I know this does the fresh can only put
2:37:13
up with so much and they and I and I
2:37:16
know they won't quit they will not quit
2:37:19
not good on them they probably won't
2:37:21
quit in to discredit which brings
2:37:22
through the cook begs the question
2:37:25
what's gonna happen
2:37:28
yeah I don't know
2:37:30
it's not going to get prettier
2:37:34
this is its thorn in the side of the EU
2:37:37
they're gonna have to I don't know this
2:37:39
is not gonna work out as far as I can
2:37:41
tell hmm bad things are gonna happen all
2:37:44
right you got one last one to get us out
2:37:46
of here
2:37:46
you got anything well first up before I
2:37:48
get out of here I don't want to say I
2:37:49
did put an Amy ISO together I wanted to
2:37:51
play that so I can see if it's any good
2:37:52
yeah I I have these this is what I was
2:37:54
planning thank you for your courage
2:37:57
that's what I was planning his ISO of
2:37:58
the day listen I actually had that one
2:38:01
oh but it lost out to this one which the
2:38:03
Trump administration unil our day pulled
2:38:05
out of last year no it's funny but I
2:38:12
know Nancy is much more prettier
2:38:16
Nancy wins I've got a thing on the dairy
2:38:19
industry being de-emphasized up in
2:38:21
Canada which is a big deal there's
2:38:24
another unreported thing at the
2:38:26
democracy now report on the Iranians are
2:38:28
sending satellites up and they think
2:38:30
it's like a just a cheap trick to get
2:38:32
their ballistic missile together
2:38:34
hmm baseball a Canadian perspective was
2:38:38
always good of the shutdown yeah okay go
2:38:44
to Dairy dairies
2:38:46
we're doing dairy people here comes all
2:38:48
those new year's resolutions to eat
2:38:50
healthier and soon there will be a new
2:38:52
Canada Food Guide to help you along it's
2:38:55
something lots of us probably learned
2:38:57
about in school and then maybe took
2:38:59
granted but Health Canada's been working
2:39:01
on an overhaul it's coming in a few
2:39:03
months and today we're getting an idea
2:39:05
of what could change draft copy
2:39:08
recommends Canadians eat a variety of
2:39:11
healthy foods each day pretty
2:39:13
straightforward right but potentially
2:39:15
the biggest change dairy products may
2:39:17
disappear as their own food group
2:39:19
instead lumped in with proteins
2:39:23
what don't pick my dairy in my proteins
2:39:28
people yeah we look at chip is a
2:39:31
vegetable we love you guys up there
2:39:34
and that wraps it up for today's
2:39:37
deconstruction
2:39:39
I'll be watching the Globes tonight see
2:39:41
if there's anything there see if
2:39:42
anyone's really funny I have low
2:39:45
expectations but we will go do it but
2:39:50
down now we'll return on Thursday we'll
2:39:52
see if we can figure out what's going on
2:39:54
with yous also thank you for
2:39:56
participating in the value network value
2:39:57
for value is what we're about remember
2:39:59
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2:40:03
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2:40:05
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2:40:07
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2:40:12
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2:40:14
the common law condo and say in the
2:40:15
morning to you everybody
2:40:17
I'm Adam curry I'm from northern Silicon
2:40:19
Valley where it is one of the few shows
2:40:22
where reigned throughout the entire show
2:40:25
unbelievable for California we live in a
2:40:27
desert
2:40:27
Jhansi tabarak and want to thank Tom
2:40:30
Starkweather Matt Bosh and Sir Chris
2:40:35
Wilson for our end of show mixes until
2:40:37
Thursday adios mofos and such
2:40:45
I just have this vision of you sitting
2:40:50
there in your office on the hill
2:40:52
watching the trains go by it goes one
2:40:55
now marking it down in your little
2:40:57
notebook
2:40:58
I definitely the little know calling
2:41:00
calling in some quarters complaints I
2:41:07
hear that Zephyr coming it's rolling
2:41:10
round the bend we started no agenda it's
2:41:14
later again so I ride it in the helpful
2:41:18
and call up to
2:41:24
is on a closet for for service goes
2:41:29
answering
2:41:38
listen that God people must just be
2:41:41
thinking the hell are these guys doing
2:41:45
there were so many haters out there
2:41:47
whatever is going on in the internet
2:41:49
don't pay attention to them everybody's
2:41:51
putting out who's going to click on or
2:41:53
who they're gonna watch no that's the
2:41:54
Kenya they don't have a political bias
2:41:56
other than cash frustration impression
2:41:58
you get from the president that he would
2:42:00
like to not only close government build
2:42:03
a wall but also abolish Congress but
2:42:06
once you get to like the tippy tops
2:42:08
national parks are getting a bit messy
2:42:11
as they're operating on a skeleton staff
2:42:12
with limited resources
2:42:14
aka no restrooms or trash collection the
2:42:17
bathrooms are kind of a challenge though
2:42:21
because you trying to give me advice
2:42:23
about some doing you ain't got that mr.
2:42:25
Trump also told lawmakers he didn't like
2:42:27
the word shut down he has to give up a
2:42:30
concrete wall and replace it with a
2:42:31
steel fence in order to do that so that
2:42:33
Democrats can say see he's not building
2:42:35
a wall anymore so well then I don't know
2:42:37
you'd have to ask her psychiatrist go
2:42:43
find that it's divine I don't work told
2:42:45
the president we needed the government
2:42:47
open he resisted the fact he said he'd
2:42:51
keep the government closed for a very
2:42:53
long period of time months or even years
2:42:56
absolutely I said that your steel is
2:42:59
stronger than concrete okay okay so you
2:43:01
could check it out
2:43:10
it's sort of the agenda and it's got the
2:43:13
live stream set up but of the Valkyries
2:43:16
playing in fat lady is radiated give the
2:43:19
intro in the morning give it but wait
2:43:23
there's something common
2:43:39
tells us this are
2:43:48
Reserve
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OPO Dvorak dot org slash and a thank you
2:44:07
for your courage
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